Shelbyshire, here's a delivery for Zeke and the rest of us going alien in sweltering weather (I saw the movie several times before I picked up on this little detail :D ):

http://www.frodolivesin.us/graphics/0c3c78e0.jpg

Zeke's a little cutie, but I'm guessing he's going to grow a bit larger than he is now. Took me a minute to connect his name with the movie, too--is it on purpose?

thats why i recignized the name!!!!!
:lol: :lol:

WOOD

Happy Birthday, Narya!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/LOTR%20photos%20-%20misc/dothey1a.jpg


Shelbyshire, Zeke is adorable!

Happy Birthday, Narya! :k :k :k

He's a bit over dressed maybe, but he wants you to know that we regard you as a pleasantly benign authority figure around here! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/normal_ICESTORM-61.jpg

ShelbyShire, your Zeke is a cutie!

honey!

That's a great picture, Bunnie--I don't remember ever seeing it before!

Although I was suspicious from the start, I just followed up a "never heard of that one before" listing for Elijah. I was looking at some other things on the BestBuy website and stumbled into their "search for an actor" movie database. Well, what's a Faculty member to do? :p Along with the usual, they had something called A Private Function on Elijah's list, even had his character designated. Usually when something like that happens, it's a mistake, so I checked on IMDb, and that character in A Private Function was played by Eli Woods, who's been appearing occasionally on British TV since the 1980's. The movie's a British comedy that won some British Academy Awards for the acting (but not for Eli Woods). There's a pig in a major role, but no Elijah Wood. :haha:

ETA: Just to note that we've passed the halfway mark to another thread... :cool:

Along with the usual, they had something called A Private Function on Elijah's list, even had his character designated. Usually when something like that happens, it's a mistake, so I checked on IMDb, and that character in A Private Function was played by Eli Woods, who's been appearing occasionally on British TV since the 1980's. The movie's a British comedy that won some British Academy Awards for the acting (but not for Eli Woods). There's a pig in a major role, but no Elijah Wood. :haha:
Ooh -- great movie! You know, there have been other roles in films credited to Lijah that've popped up over the years, and I still don't know why --

*Life Without Dick
*Begin the Beguine (co-starring Anna Paquin)

Know anything about these?

Lori Kaminsky (who I'm sure is a lovely person--she's an Elijah Wood fan, after all) had Life without [or with?] Dick listed for a long time on her amazon.com "listmania" list of Elijah Wood movies. She also had a note saying she hadn't been able to find him in the credits, so maybe he was noncredited, but IIRC she never said why she connected him with the movie in the first place :confused: .

She's removed that movie from her list, but has added Paradox which, from everything I can find, was simply the working title for Back to the Future II (which she also has on the list). I've sent amazon.com the correction on Paradox, but I just checked and she still has it on her list. When I followed the link from her list, it's obviously been only Elijah Wood fans looking for it--probably from her list.

I forget where I saw Begin the Beguine mentioned, but I can't find any connection with either Elijah or Anna.

Achila wrote: Geezer? I found the following definition at londonslang.com. Maybe some of our UK members can help out here. I know that I've seen the term by British writers to describe men who are clearly not old. A very common term for a man. . . . Used respectfully and for a person of unknown name, i.e.. "some geezer" or to say that someone is a bit of a laddish rogue "he's a bit of a geezer". Also 'dodgy geezer' can be used to describe a man of bad character.
Shelbyshire! Zeke is wonderful! But why didn't you name him Casey? Or do you already have one of those?? (Wouldn't we all like to have one of those??? ;) )

*joins the appreciation line for Zeke, and the order line for my personal Casey* :p

Tg, I still never noticed the water until you pointed it out to me. My eyes are always... otherwise engaged in that scene. :o

I did a cap like the one Bunnie posted way back when. It's such a beautiful profile shot, and lovely colors-- it really looks like a painting. :)

Well, The Terrible Trio of southeastern Pennsylvania -- Achila, ceefour, and myself -- is (are?) going to become The Terrible Traveling Trio on July 23, when we will all go tearing across the state to Pittsburgh, to see the "LotR Symphony" with Billy Boyd singing "Home Is Behind" for the first time as part of this work, and doing a Q&A before the performance. Thanks to ceefour, who found out about this, and provided the impetus for the rest of us, and arranged for the tickets. We already had tickets for the Symphony on July 15 at Philadelphia's Mann Music Center, where all three of us also heard it last year (before we got to know each other). So, when we got the Pittsburgh tickets, did we dump the Mann tix? We did NOT. ceefour's husband has now officially dubbed us "the Shore-birds."

I'll be interested to see how an indoor setting (Heinz Hall in Pittsburgh) compares with the Mann's outdoor one. Last year, the acoustics at the Mann left something to be desired (although you'll notice that we're going back nonetheless).

Ah, I see Pelagia has made the Announcment!

Yes, purely for research purposes are we attending the LOTR Sumphony twice in 8 days. Indoor theater vs. outdoor theater. Philadelphia Orchestra vs. Pittsburgh Symphony. John Maucieri vs. Markus Huber (conductors).
Billy Boyd vs. no Billy Boyd. We will submit a detailed summation of our findings when we return from our squee fest--I mean, our field studies.

BunnieBugs, your picture is exquisite.

Honeyelf (aside form the fact that the picture is not big enough), don't you just love the hair? Why did all the guys in high school in the 70's get the great hair?

tg, hoping you've had a little break in the weather.

Shelbyshire, Zeke is sweet.

OT, the trailer for KingKong is on tonight on all the NBC stations at 8:59 PM EDT.

C-I'm going to see a hobbit!-4

ceefour wrote: Yes, purely for research purposes are we attending the LOTR Sumphony twice in 8 days. Thanks for pointing that out. I had forgotten to mention that. Research only. There will be only serious intellectual discussion during the ca.-5-hour-each-way drive. No squeeing. We never squee. (What the heck does that word mean, exactly?)

Regarding honeyelf's picture, I just noticed that he has polka dots on his shirt collar, and diamonds on his sweater vest. Do you think this was the beginning of his fashion tendencies?

Pelagia,

http://www.langmaker.com/db/eng_squee.htm

More research.

C-I'm not squeeing, I'm researching.-4

ETA-Well, I've learned something. It's a good day. I think?! According to one site, squeeing is often associated with fangirls of Japanese anime and slash. I knew that, middle-aged, Internet savvy matron that I am. :rolleyes: So, I quess I don't squee. I'll just be enthusiastic. :D

Thanks, ceefour. I figured it was probably something like that, but just wanted to make sure. Now I'll have to ponder such questions as, is it a regular or irregular verb?


REGULAR VERB (following pattern of "squeal"):
Past tense -- "I squeed when I saw that picture."
Past perfect tense -- "I have often squeed over that screencap."
Noun to describe the act -- "The squeeing of his fans at the premiere sent Elijah over the edge."


IRREGULAR VERB (following pattern of "see"):
Past tense -- "I nearly squaw when Matt first appeared onscreen in Hooligans."
Past perfect tense -- "I have squeen many times while watching FotR alone at home"
Noun to describe the act -- "The squight of his fans led to Elijah's flight through a side exit."

(I think I better go eat something.)

Pelagia! :lol:
I stand firmly on the side that squee is a regular verb, mostly based on the fact that I don't wish to have squaw at anything, even Matt, or any of EW's other characters!

C4, I like your first definition of "squee" and reserve the right to reject certain aspects of the one pertaining to Japanese fan girls! (Sorry the pic is so small! ;) But yes, I do like the hair!)

And I'm so pleased the here that there will be Faculty members in the audience when Billy Boyd sings !

Yes, purely for research purposes are we attending the LOTR Symphony twice in 8 days.

Ah! I believe I've found the opening line to my initiating the topic of Toronto in 2006! It always helps when those around you show more obsessive behaviour than you yourself have, to date, shown! ;) Of course after my LA Femme Film Fest adventure, I'm probably still on probation, so had best wait for a more opprotune moment!

honey!

Am I late? I don't even know your....er....uhm.....preferences so I'll just make an offering.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/viggo-001.jpg

You never go wrong with classic black and white do you?

cheers!
saile :D

Thank you for the birthday wishes and the glowing pictures Pelagia, wood, Achila, whiteling, tg, ceefour, Shelbyshire, Bunnie, honey, and saile (I hope I didn't miss anyone!) It is such a blessing to be at home and among friends here in the Lounge. :)

Shelby, Zeke is so cute! I bet he's a handful, too. :)

Pelagia, I love your conjugations of "Squee"! And there was a word at the bottom of that link that ceefour posted--squeegle--that describes a giggle and squee combined. I think the Harem needs to know about this post-haste. :D

we will all go tearing across the state to Pittsburgh, to see the "LotR Symphony" with Billy Boyd singing "Home Is Behind" for the first time as part of this work
Did you feel that? That was a giant envy beam hitting you in the back!!! Is this the wrong time to admit that I'm seeing the symphony twice in 2 nights? *dons disguise*

Oh, ladies, you are in rare form tonight! I am squeegling big time. :D

don't you just love the hair? Why did all the guys in high school in the 70's get the great hair?
I must admit, I love long hair on a man as well. Plenty to dig my hands in. *Removes self from Faculty before the squee turns into something else* :p

Meryl Marie wrote: And there was a word at the bottom of that link that ceefour posted--squeegle--that describes a giggle and squee combined. Could also have:

squeech -- a particularly loud, shrill squee (sort of like the sound made by a squeech owl)

squee-flash – a sudden brief flushing and sensation of heat caused by dilation of skin capillaries during squeeing (or, for that matter, at the sight of any squeeable picture of Elijah)

squeecope -- fainting spell brought on by squeeing (medical; pronounced “squee-koe-pea”)

(All right, I’ll stop now.)

Mariole wrote: Is this the wrong time to admit that I'm seeing the symphony twice in 2 nights? *dons disguise* Hurrah! Are both performances in the same city, or are you traveling in between? (Extra points if the latter. And I agree about long hair on men, in general.)

You folks have me :lol: with your discussion of "squee". I have been squeeing for years, but only learned the technical term for it about three years ago. ;)

Thanks for the compliments on the screencap I posted for Narya's birthday -- stunning, isn't it? I wish I could take credit, but it was from a sequence of three caps from that scene that a friend of mine made. I just love the gorgeous little moments that go by so fast on the screen that you can't appreciate them until they turn up in caps.

I read a little blurb about Elijah in my friend Undone's LJ, and I thought I would share for the people who don't visit over there. This is from an interview with Eugene Hutz (Alex in EII) in "Anthem" magazine:

In addition to having Schreiber as a mentor, Hutz shared the screen with such luminaries as Elijah Wood and acclaimed Russian actor, Boris Leskin. While Hutz was excited to be part of the film, he initially had his reservations about starring alongside the A-lister Wood.

Hutz, somehow, has never seen any of Wood's previous work, which is no small feat considering the overwhelming popularity of the Lord of the Rings trilogy. However, given the level of Wood's fame, Hutz had a healthy fear of dealing with the kind of bloated ego Hollywood is notorious for breeding. "I hoped it wasn't this ****ing guy in sunglasses," muses Hutz. However, this scenario couldn't have been further from the truth. "We had an instant connection through music," Hutz remarks with pleasant surprise. "He was completely open to any foreign music. We spent the entire summer burning CDs for each other."

So adorably geeky. :cool:

:) Good Morning. Last night was the first night in our new place. I will be operating today on a major lack of sleep. Different sounds and different smells made for a restless night. The weirdest part...I moved into my sister-in-law's Grandmother's trailer that she moved out of last fall...it's not a bad place except for the fact that my sister-in-law's uncle died there about three years ago...in my bedroom! He was found dead in the morning from a heart attack. *inserts goosebump smilie* I was slightly uneasy sleeping there last night to say the least. I'm thinking of putting my LOTR collection in my bedroom instead of the family room in this place just to make it more "my" room.

Thanks for the puppy compliments. Zeke is a German Shepherd and was named by my daughter for Josh Hartnett's character in The Faculty. So, yes, the name was chosen because of the movie. She just thought Josh was gorgeous :rolleyes: . The kids vetoed any EJW related name right away. It actually came down to Zeke or Zack. I volunteered no info ;) about the relation of the name Zack to EJW until after Zeke was chosen as the final name. However, Zeke's puppy name was Blue :D hence the blue collar.

Off to actually do some "work" at work... :(

BunnieBugs: Thanks for the excerpt from the Hutz interview. As you say: So adorably geeky. Can’t resist one more definition (this is absolutely the last one):

squeesearch – Debased, frivolous, and noisy form of study engaged in by some Faculty members under the guise of serious, scholarly investigation. Ex.: “Pelagia claims that she wants Hooligans out on DVD so that she can do an in-depth analysis of the latest evolution in Elijah’s eyebrow-acting skills; but anyone who has heard her vocalizations while watching his other films knows that she actually just wants to do more squeesearch.”

Pelagia and Ceefour, you have me in squeestitches :lol:

Lori Kaminsky (who I'm sure is a lovely person--she's an Elijah Wood fan, after all) had Life without [or with?] Dick listed for a long time on her amazon.com "listmania" list of Elijah Wood movies. She also had a note saying she hadn't been able to find him in the credits, so maybe he was noncredited, but IIRC she never said why she connected him with the movie in the first place :confused: . Well, thorough "squeesearcher" that I am, I actually went and bought this movie some time back because it had been on Elijah's filmography somewhere. I can categorically offer that after having seen it (and it's not that bad so it wasn't that onerous a task), Elijah is definitely not in it.

I forget where I saw Begin the Beguine mentioned, but I can't find any connection with either Elijah or Anna.I googled this one a while ago and found Elijah and Anna's names connected with it, but whether it was actually made and shelved or whether it never got off the ground, that I can't determine.

I didn't get online yesterday, so apologies to you, Narya for this being a BELATED BIRTHDAY WISH (http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Narya.gif)

Hope you had a lovely day - how could you not, with all those beautiful pictures posted just for you?:)

Shelbyshire - Zeke is adorable! :) Good luck in your new home.

Oh, Blossom, what a squeelicious gif! :) Thank you.

Pelagia - LOL at squeesearch. How appropriate. ;)

OK. On the Squee word front how about..

Squee-mish....(not to be confused with ordinary squeemish) ..the feeling of distress at the thought that we might not get to (squee over) see a film of Elijah's (for squeesearch purposes of course), such as is felt when worriying about the distribution of Hooligans. :)

that I don't think we've seen before

http://www.cinemablend.com/review.php?id=994

"It’s no mystery why the critically acclaimed UK flick Hooligans refuses to catch a break with the big Hollywood powerhouses. Snagging multiple awards at US film festivals (Malibu and South by Southwest included) and showing a solid audience at this year’s Tribeca Film Festival, Hooligans, with it’s incredibly engaging, unique and violent subject matter, is a surefire crowd-pleaser..."

Interesting review, Achila. It's pretty poorly written (he doesn't get Matt's last name right once), and his use of sarcasm muddles his intentions I think. Here's his take on why the film won't see distribution in the US:

It’s no mystery why the critically acclaimed UK flick Hooligans refuses to catch a break with the big Hollywood powerhouses....However, no true American would enjoy watching British lads pick beat up a Harvard yank after a match of what us Westerners call “soccer”, now would they?

I think he's being sarcastic?

He says, in his concluding statement:

As long as Hooligans continues its circulation across the globe (release dates are set for fall of 2005 in parts of Europe), more and more Americans will latch on to its infectious spirit and even more movie producers will want to steer clear of the film and its anti-American sentiment. In turn, more superhero comic-book action sequels will flood theaters while Alexander waits, yet again, for her turn.

Since the film is already "produced" I think he means "distributors".

I really don't understand his insistence in casting the film is "anti-American." Yes, the firm are reluctant to admit Matt into the group, partly because he's an American. But it has nothing to do with politics, only the way group dynamics work. Anyone viewed as an outsider would not be welcomed with open arms, but would have to earn their way in. Hooligans is at least partly about Matt gaining their respect against all expectations.

honey!

i don`t know if this belong in the squee-discution or if i got this wrong

but i have been "sqeeish" since i saw the blue-eyed gourges guy
who is playing frodo in lotr-trilogy!!!!!! :p :D :k


thanks for the interwiew Achila !!!!!

Shelbyshire your zeke-boy is a real cuty!!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Well, I certainly let out a squee or two (or three) last night while watching the trailer for King Kong.

Achila. didn't you write that EW was in NZ in April filming getting squashed by the big ape? Any further news?

Honeyelf, Achila, Pelagia, and I are not being obsessive seeing the LOTR symphony twice because we aren't leaving the state. That's the rule. :haha:

C4

Achila. didn't you write that EW was in NZ in April filming getting squashed by the big ape? Any further news?Actually, Lij was in Sydney, probably working on ADR for Happy Feet. But he could've snuck over there, for all we know.

honeyelf, my reactions to the Cinema Blend review of Hooligans were similar to yours. (Achila, thanks for posting that.) I, too, assume that the writer (who is female, BTW -- Stefanie) is being sarcastic. And I don't get the "anti-American" bit at all. Maybe her point is just that distributors will think that it's "anti-American," or that it will be perceived as such in this hypersensitive age we currently live in, and tat they will therefore be too cowardly to pick up the film, despite the fact that American audiences who do get to see it generally like it. And while I can certainly see that kind of dynamic (risk-averse distributors) at work, I certainly don't think that "anti-Americanism" is the risk they're averse to.

BTW, any more on that rumor that Odd Lot were going to do the US distribution themselves?

(Added later)

More BTW: efilmcritic.com, which has the very positive review (already posted by someone here) by Scott Weinberg, who saw Hooligans at SXSW, also shows “votes” about the movie by 14 users, whose responses break down as follows:

Awesome 40%
Worth a look 35%
Average 0%
Pretty bad 5%
Total crap 20%

(Apologies if this info was already posted. I don’t remember seeing it before.)

C4, thanks for explaining the rules of obsession to me! ;)

Pelagia, in answer to your question there is no new word on what is happening with Hooligans. It's very frustrating just waiting, isn't it? I find that channeling my inner Mr. Rogers helps! ;)

think of something to do while you're waiting,
while you're waiting,
for something new to do!

Looking around at IMDb I found this link to an interview with Lexi Alexander:
New York Cool Alexander Interview (http://www.newyorkcool.com/archives/2005/May/interview_2.htm)

Ms. Alexander has this to say:
NYCool: Speaking of beauty and grittiness. Elijah Wood is both an unconventional, but in a way perfect choice for the role of Matt. How did he get involved? Did you pursue him? Did he pursue you? Did you have apprehensions when his name came up?

LA: Actually he pursued us, his agent was one of the first to read the script, and he called literally from an airplane and said ‘I want Elijah to meet this director.’ And so Elijah was the first actor I met. Because of who he is, and the other things he’s done, especially the greatness of Lord of the Rings and his association with that character… yeah, there was some apprehension. But I also noticed that in England people had a lot of respect for his acting ability. In terms of my own choice, I wanted an actor who was a good observer and Elijah, with his huge eyes and his calm demeanor, you can put him on the screen, and he will just look, and it’s interesting – he’s got those beautiful, big, observing eyes. What better than this character who gets introduced to this new world, and it’s all about, symbolically about, these big, wide open eyes. But he’s also been acting for so long, and he’s so professional, like he doesn’t have to be the center of attention all the time. He can confidently step back and let everybody else have a line and just stand there and not be intimidated by that.

NYCool: I did notice that, watching the film, there is a moment of disbelief, of ‘how could he work himself into this world?’ but he does pull it off, in a very short amount of time, you believe that he could feel liberated in that world. Did Elijah have any trouble accessing that role, that world, the reality of it?

LA: No, not really. What’s interesting is that there are so many people online, that don’t believe, that can’t believe he would ever be accepted into a firm. But the majority who have seen the film say ‘Absolutely, we buy it, it was great, he makes that transition.’ But there are few who say ‘that would never happen. It would never happen.” But the truth of it is that during the film, all of the extras were real firm members, and he was completely accepted and they wanted him there, and nobody said ‘that would never happen’ In fact a lot of the firm members were his height, and his build, and these were top dogs in their firms, so…its so interesting to hear people out there on the internet say it would never happen, but really in the process of making the film, it happened, he was part of it, he was part of the real firm.


:) honey!

honeyelf, nice interview with Lexi Alexander. I especially liked this statement: But he’s also been acting for so long, and he’s so professional, like he doesn’t have to be the center of attention all the time. He can confidently step back and let everybody else have a line and just stand there and not be intimidated by that. Of course, we all know the downside to this. . . .

While waiting for Hooligans (is this like waiting for Godot? Hope not), I've been playing around some more on efilm.com, and looking at "user" reviews of some other Elijah movies. My favorite so far (from a female writer), about Flipper: Tack Natalie Portman pics on my door and call me a pedophile, but HOT DAMN Elijah Wood is *hot*! And then there were several converts, writing about FotR: The news that the key role of Frodo Baggins was to be assayed by Elijah Wood caused me no small measure of concern, since he’s never been the most charismatic of actors (time has yet to erase the memory of his annoying performance in Deep Impact). The fantasy setting seems to agree with him, however, and he brings a newfound maturity to bear on a role he may well have been born to play. . . . . Wood’s perpetually mournful demeanour captures Frodo’s sorrow at being torn from home and hearth to wander a world he had no desire to experience, and his earnest vocal delivery is always appropriate to the occasion. I am not a fan of Elijah Wood; I think that The Good Son and North shot all his credibility for me. I could not watch most of his previous films because of him; I found him annoying and, on the most part, minimally talented. That was before. Wood is so good here that it makes me forgive him for all his other performances. He looks the part and his gigantic eyes (which he used to feign acting in North) are actually an asset here. Just more evidence of Frolijah's magic.

Hi All,
This is "txtac," the nemesis from the Hooligans page at IMDb.
I have been lurking a little seeing what ya'll have been up to before I post.

I was the one who called Odd Lot Entertainment to confirm what was was on the post card advertisement being passed around at the Atlanta Film Fest, which said "In Theaters Fall 2005." The person that I talked to said that Odd Lot was planning on distributing the movie themselves sometime in the Fall 2005. No dates have been set yet. That means a limited release if Odd Lot does do the distribution themselves. I think that they are still waitng for the movie to be picked up by a main line distributer. If not, Odd Lot will bite-the-bullet and do it themselves.

I am still trying to verify the rumor about Hooligans being taken on a college tour. No one "official" is saying anything about it- yet. Anyone have any definitive news?

If you have a minute, or two and are interested in the movie Hooligans, pop on over to http://www.imdb.com in the search box, type in Hooligans. Scroll down to the message boards. There is some stuff about Elijah and some fun stuff to read, particularly the "What's Next" thread and "Merchandising" thread on page two. Happy reading and we will let you know any news about Hooligans that pops up...

Hi, txtac! Nice to see you here!

Many of us are almost literally holding our breath for the distribution of Hooligans in North America, so your news was/is very welcome! Even limited release is much preferable to none at all. :cool:

I look forward to any other news you might have, and you can rest assured that if any of us hear anything, it will be posted here.

Speaking of beauty and grittinessHehe -- someone GETS Elijah!!!

Hmmm...just saw this on LJ. Someone emailed the distributor to find out where the London premiere of Hooligans was going to be held. She got back a note that said there wasn't going to be one. This' all becoming increasingly odd. And as of yet, I haven't heard back from my contact at Odd Lot, so I have nothing to update.

Here is a messge from Lexi Alexander where she talks about it.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0385002/board/thread/19881005

Your friend needs to call, or e-mail Premier PR in London. They are the Public Relations firm that is handling Hooligans in Britian. They will know about "the big premier." A distributer only schedules the movie into movie theaters. They do not have anything to do with making a big splash for the movie's premier showing. That is up to the public relations firm (Premier) and the production company (Odd Lot) to do the big splash.

Lexi is saying the premier is August 22, but everywhere else says August 26 is the release date of the movie. (?)

Thanks, txtac, I'll let her know.

Hey, TxTac! I'm glad you didn't let all the squee scare you off! ;) Good to see you here!

Achila said:Hehe -- someone GETS Elijah!!!

Exactly what I thought too!

honey!

I'm glad you didn't let all the squee scare you off!

Nah. Squeemongering can be squeelicious. I just have to keep my squeetionary next to me to look up all of the squeeums and squeeisms.

Word for the day: Squeedle-dee-dee.

:lol: TxTac!

Went to the theater tonight to see War of the Worlds which I enjoyed alot more than I expected too! Picked up a little freebie magazine called "Film," which lists upcoming f-f-f-f-f-MOVIES (I'm doing my Porky Pig imitation now, TG! ;)) It had a lovely ad for Everything is Illuminated in it, which now graces my wall! (It's the one with Jonathan's head, and the blue skies glasses.) Was really hoping for a trailer, but no such luck.

And then there's this little thing which I found, and which I think is just perfect! The scene, I mean! I knew those glasses would have to come off about here, however briefly! (Well, Bunnie actually deserves the credit for scouting this out! :k But how could I just leave it unposted? :D)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/listajonathan.jpg

crawling off to bed,
honey!

Aww, Honey! :k Thank you (and Bunnie :)) for this new EII picture!
Not knowing the book, this is the first picture I've seen so far that actually speaks to me in an emotional way, and really touches me. (Let's hope this is true for the rest of EII :z: )


Welcome to our new squeesea... erm, I mean researcher - TxTac! ;)

Not knowing the book, this is the first picture I've seen so far that actually speaks to me in an emotional way, and really touches me. (Let's hope this is true for the rest of EII Agreed, whiteling. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and theorize that this is, in fact, Augustine, and that she's stunned at how much Jonathan looks like his grandfather (without his glasses, of course).

Hi, TxTac -- I've read some of the Hooligans threads at IMDb. The proposed tag lines are :lol: !

I'm following all the Hooligans news here--just don't have anything to add.

--BTW, you can add me to the list of people who much prefer squee to be conjugated as a regular verb (squaw? :confused: )

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Honey and Bunnie, thanks for the new EII pic. Wanna bet there are people who'd say Jonathan's showing no emotion there? :rolleyes: Look how red his ears are :D -- How does he do that?

Honey, could I be nosy and ask if the theater you went to is part of a chain (AMC, etc.?). I wasn't planning to see any movies in the near future, but if they're giving out freebies like that... :cool:



Gentle EII book spoiler





Whether or not she's really Augustine, Lista did know Jonathan's grandfather Safran (notice that she's holding a photo in the picture). She knew Safran quite well before the village was destroyed, and says that Jonathan looks like he looked then. She says that she saw Safran once more after the village was destroyed and he was "changed." She tells Jonathan "You should never change."

On emotional expression -- It's at some point during this conversation that Alex says Jonathan had "rivers" running down his cheeks. I do hope they don't keep the movie character so bottled up that we don't see that. IMHO it'd be a powerful contrast to his usual demeanor.



End of gentle EII book spoiler



I'm curious as to how they're going to handle the translation of dialogue in the movie. In the book, of course, Alex has to translate everything Lista says for Jonathan, and his translations themselves are sometimes telling (he'll write what Lista said, then how he translated it for Jonathan, and sometimes the two aren't exactly the same).


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Well, I've put up all the site updates there will be for July at frodolivesin.us (http://www.frodolivesin.us/). No new screencapped scenes, I'm afraid--I just haven't had time. A couple of new essays, the regular "monthly" pics and quotes, and three pages of Frodo images in the "private gallery" ;) (guest book page (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics), click on picture of hands, new additions start on page 8). It was two pages, but the first one loaded so slowly that I split it. I should say that for people so inclined, that particular set of images probably won't help recovery from steamy weather. But it's such a great picture, I couldn't pass it up. :)


ETA--Just noticed that I'm 3 posts away from 2500 :eek: :eek: . Life, what's a life? :haha:

Honey, could I be nosy and ask if the theater you went to is part of a chain (AMC, etc.?). I wasn't planning to see any movies in the near future, but if they're giving out freebies like that...

It was a "Camera" theater, one of the smaller chains we have here, but I think I've seen FILM at other independent-type movie theaters, too, such as LandMark ones. Good luck on your hunt!

I'm sorry I've sort of abandoned all of you in the "Everything Will Be Illuminated Herein" thread. It's one of those books that I can't keep ordered in my head unless I'm right in the process of reading it. Every time I do read it I mean to do so with a pile of little yellow sticky notes in one hand, but it never works out that way. The non-linear aspect of the story makes it really hard to find things later, when you're thumbing through it desperately for a quote.

A few months ago I bought the audio version of the book, read by Kerry Shale. I haven't got round to listening to it yet, but I leant it to my son and his girlfriend for a long drive, and they returned it almost unlistened to. They couldn't get past the first chapter, and Alex's "annoying" accent! :rolleyes:

honey!

It was a "Camera" theater, one of the smaller chains we have here, but I think I've seen FILM at other independent-type movie theaters, too, such as LandMark ones. Good luck on your hunt!
Looked up LandMark theaters, and the closest are in Denver or Minneapolis, which would mean a good two-day trip :rolleyes: . The Camera theaters site links to them, BTW, for the magazine called FLM -- is that the one you got? It does say to pick it up free at LandMark theaters. The table of contents for the summer 2005 issue lists an article on Thumbsucker, but there's no link to the story.

It's one of those books that I can't keep ordered in my head unless I'm right in the process of reading it.
Since my first reading of EII, I've never read it again straight through. I'll read little bits and pieces, or follow one thread for a few chapters, etc. I don't think there's any way to keep it ordered in your head or anywhere else. :p

TGShaw said:The Camera theaters site links to them, BTW, for the magazine called FLM -- is that the one you got?

Yup, that's the one!

On NPR's show, "Forum" today they were discussing the sorry state of the Hollywood film industry. I called in, hoping to get on the air and say that good films are being made, but they have to find distributors willing to take a risk. Alas, the show ended before they got around to my call.

honey!

Hello, txtac! I’ve enjoyed your passionate comments about Hooligans over on IMDB (although I happen to like “Stand your ground” as a tagline).

honeyelf and BunnieBugs, thanks for the new EII pic. Don’t you feel as if we’re being mercilessly teased and tormented with all these little tidbits being fed to us so gradually?

I found the following in a review of Cinderella Man, and thought to myself, this is the sort of thing that I would like to read about Elijah, by the time he’s Russell Crowe’s age (although I’m naturally not recommending Mr. Crowe as a role model for offscreen behavior): Playing James J. Braddock, . . . Crowe does something – I can’t figure out what – that morphs the very shape of his head. He’s done this before, changing physical and emotional contours to play a whistle-blower, a mathematician, a ship’s captain, a Maximus . . . . But each time the intensity of the transformation feels complete, and unexpected; there’s not another actor working in the movies today with Crowe’s kind of gravitational pull to authenticity, to unactorliness. Just try substituting “Wood” for “Crowe” here – and changing the specific role allusions, obviously. Doesn't it sound perfectly natural? Moreover, as I was watching Cinderella Man yesterday, it occurred to me how Crowe is able to disappear into a character -- as we all know that Elijah can. And that, in turn, took me back to the Faculty's earlier discussion on "character actors" vs. "leading men;" and here (in Crowe) is an excellent example of somebody who is both, IMHO. Elijah, take note!

Thank you Pelagia. Feel free to jump into the fray. When only DVCorvis and I hog the board you begin to wonder if anyone else has seen the movie. The movie has so many different levels, each person who sees it comes away with a different idea about what the movie is about. A different level of the movie touched them. I would like to see more discussion from other people about what they think the movie is about. What was it about the movie that touched them?

For the FLM Magazine, go to: http://www.landmarktheaters.com
No subscriptions, you have to go to a Landmark Theater to pick one up. They have a good directory of where the theaters are located. On a good note, click on the FLM/movienet tab. It will take you to where all of the FLM Magazines are archived on the net. There are links to read their reviews on line. Also check out the links tab at the top. They have a great hot link section to other movie sites.

I scanned in the full page ad of Everything is Illuminated that just shows Elijah's head in this current FLM Magazine. There are several fansites that already have it in their galleries.

The article on the movie Thumbsucker (that Elijah was slated to do) is only two pages. On the top of the page it says:
"When every film distributer in America and Europe says 'interesting but no' to the project, you do tend to feel like you're burdening the world with a warped vision that no one wants to see."
Shades of Hooligans. Maybe we are just caught up in another one of those Hollywood slumps? It happens occassionally. We just have to wait it out and hope that the films that did not get picked up and released are not forgotten.

hi txtac and thank you for the news!!!

i got seans book in my mailbox today so if i will diseper from here for a while
you all know why!!

it will take a while to read it since it is in english and not in swedish
i hope i will understand every word i don`t whant to miss anything!!!

Lovely picture from EII!!! thanks for posting it!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

from txtac:
When only DVCorvis and I hog the board you begin to wonder if anyone else has seen the movie.
Well, *sigh* , most of us haven't had the chance yet. :(

...And that, in turn, took me back to the Faculty's earlier discussion on "character actors" vs. "leading men;" and here (in Crowe) is an excellent example of somebody who is both, IMHO. Elijah, take note!
Of course, Crowe's size doesn't hurt him in that area, especially for some roles, but I don't think that means Elijah can't do it by any means--just probably not as a gladiator ;) .

----That just put a couple of thoughts together. Wasn't there a comment not too long ago that someone thought maybe the extras in Hooligans had been cast to match Elijah's height, because so many of them seemed shorter than expected? Then Lexi said that the extras were real "firm" members, and a lot of them were Elijah's height. That kind of says there wasn't any need to consider height when casting, doesn't it?---

But getting back to the main point, I don't think there has to be a line drawn between character actor and leading man, taking the terms at face value. But I do think sometimes "leading man" is used to refer to a particular type of male lead--the kind you don't think of as the character when you see them in a movie, if you take my meaning, but are always so obviously themselves. I do not think that will be Elijah's fate. (You can always recognize a board with Tolkien readers, can't you? ;) )

I do remember a lovely remark Sir Ian McK made about Elijah during LotR shooting--saying how lucky they were to have a "leading man" who was so wonderful to work with, because the person in that position has so much effect on the atmosphere of the entire set. Especially gracious, IMHO, because there wasn't unanimous agreement on who the lead really was, with Sir Ian being mentioned as one of the possibilities. Very true to the book, actually, where no one person completely heads up the story, but as an EJW fan it was very nice to hear the comment, anyway. :)

And absolutely ditto on the idea that everything the reviewer said about Crowe also applies to Elijah (especially the part about not being able to figure out exactly what he does ;) ).

----That just put a couple of thoughts together. Wasn't there a comment not too long ago that someone thought maybe the extras in Hooligans had been cast to match Elijah's height, because so many of them seemed shorter than expected? Then Lexi said that the extras were real "firm" members, and a lot of them were Elijah's height. That kind of says there wasn't any need to consider height when casting, doesn't it?---
There's always the hope that at some point in time, we as a society will stop being so obsessed with trivialities like height, and get on with what's really important. It's sad that we still value people based on outdated physical parameters, innit?

There's always the hope that at some point in time, we as a society will stop being so obsessed with trivialities like _________

Nah. It is called "Human Nature." It has been around for 100,000 years and I do not see it changing any time soon. Where would John Wayne be if he was not 6'4" ? We as a society still want our men to be tall and strong and our women lush and sexy. I do not see that changing any time soon.

It's sad that we still value people based on outdated physical parameters

It sounds like you've never been in a fight. It might be a guy thing, but trust me- size DOES matter! :eek:

It sounds like you've never been in a fight. :eek:
Do Tell !!!
saile :cool:

tgshaw wrote: But I do think sometimes "leading man" is used to refer to a particular type of male lead -- the kind you don't think of as the character when you see them in a movie, if you take my meaning, but are always so obviously themselves. Yes, and I think that’s the distinction that I use when I contrast leading men and character actors. Take Tom Cruise, for example (please!!). He has given some very good performances, but I’m always aware that he’s Tom Cruise. Same thing with John Wayne.

And what a nice comment from Sir Ian about Elijah. As you say, Especially gracious, IMHO, because there wasn't unanimous agreement on who the lead really was And also because Elijah and Sean (and Andy) were often separated from the rest of the cast, due to the multiple storylines. Achila and I were talking some time ago about the LotR films, and we agreed that one of the things that adds to their appeal (for us, at any rate) is the knowledge of how committed the cast and crew were to making these movies, and how they really do seem to have been very fond of each other, and to have developed relationships that you rarely find in a regular work setting, much less on a movie set. I would just about have killed to be part of something like that.

BTW, by popular request, it’s official: “to squee” is a regular verb (squee, squeed, squeed).

I saw this over at BoxOfficeMojo (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=changes&p=.htm)--"Green Street Hooligans" is being released by "Freestyle Distributing" on September 16, 2005!!

OMG, Sharpe's Girl! *runs around in circles* This is news I thought we would never get!

And it's all over the web! (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8682)

I'm a bit overcome. Back later.

HOOLIGANS AND EII ON THE SAME DAY??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(exsqueeze me while I go and plotz somewhere)

ETA: From Rotten Tomatoes:


LEXI ALEXANDER’S AWARD-WINNING FILM

“GREEN STREET HOOLIGANS” WILL BE RELEASED IN THEATERS

SEPTEMBER 16th, 2005

Lexi Alexander’s critically acclaimed GREEN STREET HOOLIGANS (formerly known as HOOLIGANS) made history by winning both the jury prize and audience award at both the 2005 South by Southwest and Malibu International Film Festivals. The film was also an official selection for the 2005 Tribeca Film Festival. The movie Hollywood did not want you to see has acquired distribution and will be released on September 16th, 2005 in New York and Chicago, with all major cities to follow.

Audiences and critics are riveted, entertained and transported to the world of English football (soccer) hooligans and knocked out by the powerful performances portrayed by Elijah Wood, Charlie Hunnam, and Claire Forlani:

“Unvarnished verisimilitude, visceral impact and vividly evoked emotional and physical extremes distinguishes ‘Hooligans…’ [The] violent sequences crackle with a genuinely terrifying anything-can-happen excitement.” –Joe Leydon, Daily Variety

“[An] exciting and tight drama with enough edge to maintain its integrity.” -Denis Seguin, Screen International

“This movie kicks a lot of ***…Wood has the perfect innocence at the beginning and makes a great transition to a more world worn person.” -Ain’t it Cool News

“Lexi Alexander creates a movie that is so mesmerizing in its choreographed fight scenes and bloody brawls that you forget that this movie in some aspect exists in real life.” –Comingsoon.net
Opening in New York and Chicago- September 16th, 2005 with Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Boston, Austin, and many more cities in the following weeks.

The film will be released in the United Kingdom by U.I.P. (UK title is GREEN STREET) on August 26th. For more information please visit the website http://www.hooligansthefilm.com/


Also, about Lij's performance in Sin City, from CHUD:
loved just about everything in this film. Rourke's Marv.... simply awesome. Owen was bad*** as Dwight. Willis as Hartiggan felt just right. KEVIN.... my god. Probably my favorite part of the entire film is Wood as Kevin. Every moment with him on screen felt electric. The way he moved was.... creepy, efficient, deadly. The smile. His moment of death. ****ing awesome. I thought I'd see Frodo as Kevin, but nope... he was perfect.

And another:

Benicio Del Toro and Elijah Wood completely blew me away, I was not prepared for that level of excellence, Wood in particular created a wholly memorable character who was fearsome and scary and who could have easily backfired.

Hey!!!i Am So Happy For All Of You!!!!!!!

Great News!!!!!!

Running Around In Circels!!!!!!!


Love You All/wood

WOW!!!

It's finally happened! Not announced on the official Hooligans web-site, but I'm sure they are scrambling to re-design that. Wonder when we'll get to see the new NEW trailer? Lexi says it's perfect! I posted the news at IMDb.

Somebody pinch me!

honey!

Dakota Fanning has been over-exposed as the traumatised little girl in such films as Man on Fire and Hide and Seek. It could be argued her Rachel fits the setting. But I think something more is needed than the bipolar of shrill screaming and goggle-eyed Elijah Wood staring, inter-cut with the occasional utterance like "Is that the terrorists?"

....some people really just don't get him..do they?

Well with 2 new films coming maybe they'll see more than "goggle-eyed Elijah Wood"
Interesting that while looking over on one of those sites announcing "Green St. Hooligans" they gave it a 9/10 rating on the review scale. Could it be because our little goggle-eyed Elijah is a good actor?
:haha:

goggle-eyed Elijah Wood staring

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Ylla said:....some people really just don't get him..do they?
Evidently not!
He looks quite cross, as well, don't you think?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/35.jpg

Wonderful news. I am so happy for all of you in the US. :)
And we in the UK have to wait until November for EII :(

I Have No Idear When Eii Will Come To Sweden!! :( :( :(

But Holligans Will Come In The Fall,october I Think!!

Sin City Have Premier Tonight!!!!

I Will See It Next Weekend!!but I Think I Will Have To Go Alone

But I Don`t Care !!!!!! I Will Go Anyway!!!!!


Wood

Goodness! The Faculty will be very busy with squeesearch in September.

Somehow, I don't think there will be very many U.S. Faculty members at work on September 16th and 30th. Just tell your managers you've come down with Elwood's Syndrome.

C4

ETA-Thanks to Sharpe's Girl for bringing the good news. :)

Here's one from when the film was at Tribeca. May be spoilers ahead so for those who care about such things, be warned --

Reviewed by Evan Sung


From Hobbits to Hooligans, Elijah Wood finds himself a new fellowship in the sometimes brutal, consistently fascinating first time feature by director Lexi Alexander. Hooligans premiered in the US at Austin’s SXSW festival, where it garnered the award for Best Narrative Feature, and now makes an encore appearance at the 2005 Tribeca Film Festival. Set in the tightly-knit milieu of impassioned and just as tightly-wound loyal followers of local soccer…ahem…football teams in England known as Hooligans, the film gives viewers a largely honest insight into the conflicted psychology and the destructive effects of such tightly bound, clannish alliances.

Elijah Wood plays Matt Buckley, a gifted, bookish Harvard journalism student wrongly expelled two months before graduation. When the cocaine belonging to his roommate, the wealthy and smug son of a Senator, is found in Matt’s affairs, Matt buckles under the pressure and political influence of his roommate and takes the fall. Matt leaves Harvard for London, to seek refuge with his sister Shannon (Claire Forlani) and her husband Steve and reevaluate his future. Almost immediately, Matt falls in with Steve’s younger brother Pete, the fast-talking alpha dog of the Green Street Elite, one of West Ham United Football’s toughest firms. Just before Pete introduces Matt to the rest of his pals, he warns Matt that “firms” – the name for these organized hooligan gangs – hate two things above all, Americans and journalists. Matt passes himself off as a history student, but in spite of his Yank roots, finds an easy acceptance among the other GSE. Only Bovver, Pete’s right hand in the GSE (played with inscrutable scuzziness by Leo Gregory), finds Matt’s presence in the group an intolerable offense. As Matt becomes closer to Pete and his band of merry, violent hooligans, he learns about fraternity, sticking up for one’s self and one’s friends, and its spiraling, escalating consequences

Alexander opens the film subtly, striking just the right chord of dread, of impending cataclysm. In an empty tube station, a lone passenger waits for the next train when a gently crescendoing chorus of voices floats up from the vacant stairwell. The rising voices are enough to suggest a carousing band of drunken boors, and it’s not a far leap to imagine ourselves as that lone passenger trapped on that tube platform along with them. Our thoughts spin out the worst of possibilities. Where Hooligans is most successful is in playing with our preconceptions of the world of hooligans, at times challenging them, at other times showing us that we haven’t even begun to imagine the reality.

Elijah Wood seems, at first, an incongruous choice for a hardened hooligan, with his delicate, sometimes feminine demeanor. And when Pete decides suddenly that instead of beating the living **** out of Matt he’ll take him under his wing, its hard not to guffaw at the implausibility. But to Wood’s credit, the disbelief lasts only a moment, and when Matt takes his first real punch to the face, his beatific smile of release and liberation is funny and credible.

Yes, there are moments that don’t ring quite true. Why, for example, does Pete have perfect teeth? (English AND a hooligan? By all rights, he shouldn’t have any at all.) And the story of Matt and Shannon’s emotionally absent father seems clichéd. But the quasi-documentary realism with which hooliganism is treated makes up for these minor infractions. And Charlie Hunnam’s fireball performance as Pete is both engaging and tragic, and truly takes us into the emotional world of these men. Alexander also skillfully manages to involve the viewer while never sanctioning or sensationalizing the violence depicted. The film, ultimately, is thought-provoking, magnetic and repelling, in its sympathetic authenticity.

“Hooligans” will be released in the UK and Europe in August. At press time, the film was still searching for its US distributor, but judging from the critical and audience response both at Tribeca and SXSW, it won’t be long before the hooligans are invading your local cinema.

Absolutely fabulous news about Hooligans release! When I first saw your post, Achila, I began to hope for an Elwood appearance here in Chicago. :)

But the timing :eek:

How can he be in two places at once? I guess the official premiere will be in NYC, as usual.

Can't wait!

I just got off the phone with Odd Lot to confirm the US release date. THE DATE WAS CHANGED TWO DAYS AGO! THE CURRENT RELEASE DATE FOR HOOLIGANS IS September 9th in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles.
The rest of the US will get Hooligans on a "rolling basis" meaning that every two weeks Hooligans will be going to another city. Stay tuned for scheduling.

The College Tour is still in the development stage, so no news on it yet.

I just popped in to say.................


SQUEEEEEEEEEE!


Edit:Wait a minute TXTAC a week earlier!!!!!!!!!

:eek: :D :cool: :) :k

I just popped in to say.................


SQUEEEEEEEEEE!

SQueeeeeeeeee!
Double SQUEEEE
saile

I learned a long time ago not to beleieve the first blog of news that gets passed around. The old saying rings true "Trust, but Verify." Neal Boortz is famous for saying "Never believe anything that I tell you unless you already know it to be true, or can be verified by two other non-related sources."

When I first saw the blog that Hooligans was going to be released, I called Odd Lot to confirm that it was true. They told me that the dates had changed two days ago, but the movie was going to be released by Odd Lot through Freestyle Releasing. The new date was September 9th in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. The rest of the United States will get Hooligans on a "rolling basis" meaning that every two weeks, or so, the movie will move on to another city. This is a limited release, so a lot of smaller cities and towns will not get to see Hooligans. The college tour might help in the areas that will not get to see Hooligans, but they are still working on the tour. No news on it's schedule.

Whew! A big sigh of relief about Hooligans. But what’s with the “Green Street” bit? I thought that was just for the UK. Maybe the original Box Office Mojo notice was wrong about the US title Hooligans (no green, no street) is just such a good, pithy, erm, punchy title.

The fact that this movie and EII will be coming out so close together here in the US should be very good for Elijah (apart from promotional wear and tear on him). People may be less likely to fall into The-One-Expression error over Jonathan, if they’ve also seen Matt.

txtac wrote: This is a limited release, so a lot of smaller cities and towns will not get to see Hooligans. Maybe if it does well in the UK and Europe, Odd Lot will go wider with it here?? :z:

ceefour wrote: Somehow, I don't think there will be very many U.S. Faculty members at work on September 16th and 30th. Just tell your managers you've come down with Elwood's Syndrome. Another excellent addition to the Wood lexicon!

Achila: Nice review from Evan Sung, although as usual, Matt’s surname was incorrect (I think; I’m not sure anymore, since I've seen so many variations).

It's Matt Buckner.

But what’s with the “Green Street” bit?

We have been cussing and discussing this a lot on the IMDb board. The movie got such a bad rap about the fighting and violence that a lot of distributers got scared of the movie as being to violent. The name Hooligans and the tag line "Stand Your Ground" also added to misinterpret what this movie is about. At the Atlanta Film Festival, the PR people were checking the audience responses again. So- in the "kindlier and gentlier" nation that we live in, they changed the name and tag line- again- to downplay the harder violent edge. Now we have Green Street Hooligans (still sounds like a British TV soap opera) and Be Part of the Team (like the movie is about football/soccer...).

:z: I just checked the July schedule for HBO. If you have cable TV, or satalite TV, check your schedule for July. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind IS PLAYING ON HBO TONIGHT JULY 1st! It will be reshown on July 13 and 19. :D

I wish they'd decided to go with "Green Street Elite" instead. Green Street Hooligans just sounds clunky and half-rear-ended! Its trying to straddle some fence that doesn't need straddled!

I'm hoping that there is one day in September with EII and Hooligans (I don't think I'll stop calling it that) both running in the theaters. If so, I plan to go see first one, and then other. Remind me again how this works CeeFour; it's only "obsessive" if I have to cross the county line, right? ;)

honey!

PS TxTac, you mean you don't have ESoTSM in your DVD collection?!? :eek: ;)

Honeyelf, one has to cross a signigicant geographical boundary, such as a state line, national border, or maybe, the Panama Canal, for such behavior to be considered obsessive. So, if EiI and Hooligans were playing at the same movie theater, and you went back and forth between showings all day, this would not be considered aberrant behavior.

Thanks for the update, txtac. And a belated welcome.

C4

I wish they'd decided to go with "Green Street Elite" instead.
I'm not. The Green Street Elite IS the West Ham Firm. That would have put another nuance onto the film that it is not only about hooligans, but specifically one firm of hooligans. My arguement still stands that the movie Hooligans is not about hooligans, or fighting/violence. When everyone else sees the movie, I want to read their thoughts on the subject matter.

PS TxTac, you mean you don't have ESoTSM in your DVD collection?!?
I am probably one of the very few who did not like ESOTSM. Besides the point that Elijah was only a bit player in this movie, he didn't really have that much screen time. He had more in ESOTSM then he did in Sin City, but there is no comparison to the characters. I already have Sin City on DVD. I just can not bring myself to buy ESOTSM just for Elijah's character portrayal. I did not like his character, or how Elijah looked as that character. This was another one of those roles where Elijah evan said "there was no acting involved." I have all of his other movies on DVD except for Avalon, Paradise, Back to the FutureII and North. And I am looking for North. The real early years do not interest me much. I prefer the later: Flipper, Faculty, All I Want, LOTR, Hooligans, Sin City...

Wow! I really love ESoTSM! I loved Jim Carrey playing so against type, and vulnerable. I loved Kate Winslett playing cranky-quirky-lovable (I can identify with the cranky-quirky part, and only hope be wothy of the lovable part!) I loved Elijah's self-doubting Patrick, and wanted to slap him at the same time.

Most of all I LOVED the message of the movie, that even though there is no perfect relationship, love is always worth fighting for, and working on.

ESoTSM is one of those movies I pull out occassionally and watch. Like Faculty, LoTR, All I Want, and The War , and Ice Storm it's joined my list of favorites. It makes me feel hopeful I guess.

This was another one of those roles where Elijah evan said "there was no acting involved."

Did he say that? :confused: I can't quote exactly, but whatever it was I interpretted it to mean that it was improvisational acting, and only loosley scripted.

honey!
ETA: (((((CeeFour)))) :k

And I am looking for North.It's not out on DVD yet but it's probably out there somewhere to download, if you're of a mind to do that.

This was another one of those roles where Elijah evan said "there was no acting involved."

Did he say that? I can't quote exactly, but whatever it was I interpretted it to mean that it was improvisational acting, and only loosley scripted.

Yep. He said that. I can dig out the interview if you want. This was the time frame right after LOTR and he was starting to "act" again. Elijah said that he liked doing the smaller roles "where no acting was required" and only took a couple of days to shoot. In other words, just show up, recite a few words in front of the camera, pick up check and leave. Short, sweet, simple and to the point. After the life and mind altering experience of filming three major motion picutres all at the same time (LOTR) over 16 months, Elijah was burned out and didn't want to do another big picture for some time. These short little snippets were what he needed to get back on track.
Ash Wednesday, 8 days to shoot, no acting involved
Spy Kids 3-D, 2 days to shoot, little to no acting
ESOTSM 4 weeks , little to no acting

honeyelf wrote: Green Street Hooligans just sounds clunky and half-rear-ended! Its trying to straddle some fence that doesn't need straddled! Very well put, IMHO. Who the heck developed the marketing plan for this movie? Have they ever marketed a movie before this one??

ceefour wrote: Honeyelf, one has to cross a signigicant geographical boundary, such as a state line, national border, or maybe, the Panama Canal, for such behavior to be considered obsessive. So, if EiI and Hooligans were playing at the same movie theater, and you went back and forth between showings all day, this would not be considered aberrant behavior. :lol: And could we call such crossing of a "significant geographical boundary" for purposes of seeing something Elijah-related (or Shore-related, or LotR-related) "squeemigration"??

... crossing of a "significant geographical boundary" for purposes of seeing something Elijah-related: "squeemigration"?
I really hope that someone is writing all of this sqeesearch down. It will make interesting must-have reading for future generations and students of Frolijahmania, Woodstermania, and/or Woodlingmania. :lol:

Just got this in an e-mail from Joe Kleinberg at Odd Lot:

Friends and Fans of HOOLIGANS,

We know you’ve been waiting patiently to find out when the film will be out in theatres. Well, we finally have news!

First of all, we want you to know we are changing the title to “Green Street Hooligans.” The film is being called “Green Street” in the U.K. (for the street where West Ham Stadium resides) and we wanted to keep our title similar so fans would realize they’re one and the same.

Despite all of your rallying behind us with such ferocity and your petitions, calls and letters, the Hollywood studios have passed on the opportunity to distribute this film. It is really the movie that Hollywood doesn’t want you to see! But, emboldened by you, our fans, we have decided to do it on our own! That’s right, on September 9, 2005 in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago, we, Odd Lot Entertainment, the producers of HOOLIGANS, are independently releasing in theatres without the traditional Hollywood machine behind us. And so, we need you now more then ever!

Who needs fancy billboards and flat advertisement when we have your word-of-mouth, which can rumble and quake in the streets, spreading through the population to get the word out on this important movie. Tell all your friends that this film is going to come out. Get them to come and see this movie on opening weekend in the city nearest you. That will get the theatres to keep running it and help us to get more theatres to bring it to more cities across the country. If you want to bring the film to your city and help to make it happen, send us an e-mail to let us know and you can join our team. We’ll send you special materials and work with you directly to get your local theatres to book the film.

With your help, we can defy the establishment intent on silencing us and this movie! With you we can do anything! Sign up on our website: www.greenstreethooligans.com and you’ll receive a free Green Street Hooligans leather wrist cuff as a token of our gratitude.

We know we can beat the odds with your help! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to this film’s campaign. You can say you own a little piece of this special cinematic event.

Sincerely,

The “Green Street Hooligans” Team

Posting that to Oscarwatch, if that's OK with you, h? And to my LJ?

And btw, you might want to tell him that the site isn't accepting email addresses.

Perfect, Achila!

Bunnie, could you please work your magic in LJ-land? You were a wonder getting the petition networked about!

I'm gonna contact Wizard News, A&F, and the other fan-sites. Oh, and IMDb, too.

honey!

We are all Ready to GO!!!!! What can we do??????(Hey listening to the music form the Hooligan's at the official site can really INSPIRE a person, even we .... ahem ......mature persons) so let us know if there is ANYTHING............

I see a trip to Chicago in my future...........hmmmm in September................


saile :D :D :D

yeah honey yeah achila yeah bunnie yeah yeah yeah

If you want to bring the film to your city and help to make it happen, send us an e-mail to let us know and you can join our team. We’ll send you special materials and work with you directly to get your local theatres to book the film.

From Joe Klienberg's mouth! :D Go! Contact Odd Lot (Check the links page at the site.) Good luck! We can do this! :k :k :k

Bunnie, could you please work your magic in LJ-land? You were a wonder getting the petition networked about!


Will do, Honey. *dons cape*

EDIT: Okay, we already have a problem. The website is not accepting email addresses, and there is no address for Odd Lot in the links, either. Who should I tell people to contact and how? :confused:

I've got Odd Lot's address and phone number, but I am not going to post it. I will call again tommorrow (Sat. July 2) to see if anyone is in the office, but the best chance to contact them now will be Tuesday morning July 5th. The e-mail section on their website has rarely worked. I will see if they will give me an e-mail address to post publicly.

Thanks, txtac! I had posted this letter in both my LJ and two LJ communities before I realized that we didn't have our ducks in a row, so I deleted from the two communities until I have better information to give to people. What a drag to get this right before a holiday weekend, and then not have all the tools we need! :(

MORNING TO YOU ALL!!!

Just wanted to say this!!!

Honey,Achila ,Bunnie,Txtac !!!!!!!!

what a great job you all are doing !!!!!! Elijah will be very proud
of you!!!!!(if they let him know)!!!!!!!!!!

I guess this is the ind of fans any movie star woulde like to have!!!!!!

I am so proud to be a little part of this family!!!!!

THANK YOU ALL!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

what a great job you all are doing !!!!!! Elijah will be very proud
of you!!!!!(if they let him know)!!!!!!!!!

((((Wood))))

It seems so surreal, but between all of us we made something happen!

honey!

It seems to me that Odd Lot should be letting some of the big mainstream entertainment media (e.g., Entertainment Weekly) know about the groundswell of support in the US for Hooligans. I don’t suppose it would do any good for fans to contact such magazines and tell them that there’s a story here? Have there been any other indie films that have made it into theaters in part because of fervent fan support?

Returning briefly to the period before Hooligans mania hit, tgshaw wrote, in response to my offering of Russell Crowe as a model of a leading man who is also a character actor: Of course, Crowe's size doesn't hurt him in that area, especially for some roles, but I don't think that means Elijah can't do it by any means--just probably not as a gladiator No – but it occurred to me that Elijah might have made an interesting Commodus (the Joaquin Phoenix role), if he had been old enough. A more in-depth, “psychological” villain than Kevin, certainly: rich, spoiled, vicious, parent-icidal. . . . oh, wait -- that would be McPhee Brodman in a toga, wouldn’t it? :haha:

Happy Fourth of July, and a pleasant three-day holiday weekend, to everybody here in the US! Don't play with fire and don't try to burn down any department stores.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/Avalonwithmatch.jpg


(Oh, GOD, I love that movie!)

I don’t suppose it would do any good for fans to contact such magazines and tell them that there’s a story here?
Of course it will. Most media do not know that there is a story until you tell them. Once they start checking it out and find out that something IS there, they will jump all over it.
Here is a good place to start: http://landmarktheaters.com/Links/Links.htm

Have there been any other indie films that have made it into theaters in part because of fervent fan support?
Yes. It can be done. It will take some work on all of our parts, but it can be done. At least Odd Lot is willing to work with us on getting the movie out. They are not large enough to to it themselves, but we- the fanbase- are. So let's DO IT! :z:

The "other" petition team did some contacting of magazines regarding their petition effort. But I think it's time to hit the magazines again. I'll see if I can get to them to come over here, and we can consolidate efforts this time. NOW we have a news story that I think the entertainment magazines will be interested in.

honey!

Don't forget to include the IMDb.com and groups.yahoo.com message boards. They all have active Hooligans pages. The more we can show the media how active the support for this film is, the more "power" we and they will have to get the story out.

Besides the magazines (printed page), do not forget the internet (entertainment) news sites like Aint It Cool News, Chud, Rotten Tomatos, Film Stew... More movie related people check those sites more often. With magazines, it might be two or three months before an article, or blog comes out in the hardcopy print form.

Anyone find a way to contact greenstreethooligans.com yet? I am assuming we are all WAITING ? :lol:

And celebrating!
INCREDIBLE JOB, REALLY INCREDIBLE JOB....... don't want to miss any names.....but we know who YOU are. (((all of you)))

we can consolidate effortsGood idea! Just say the word. :k :k

cheering!
saile :D

AICN, definitely, with the EJW friends/fans there.

Frustrating to not have the email submission working right now, as I'm off to my mom's for the rest of the holiday weekend. I've put a link to this specific Faculty Lounge page on the "What's New" page on my website for people who want to keep up with this, and have also put a mention in the guestbook.

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I'm leaving an all-American ;) 4th of July present of Paint Shopped Jonathan (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/id25.htm). He seemed to need a little jazzing up :D .

Have a great weekend, all.

I think if we just reply to the newsletter from Oddlot and tell them we want to hlep that should do it. :confused: I hope.

Honey- I think the lady who made the other petition has just become my new moderator on my forum, which has taken off suddenly. :eek: :cool: Was she Deenan? Because that's the gal. I'm sure she'll help big time. :)

I am putting the word out over there.

Hobmom- I think if we just reply to the newsletter from Oddlot and tell them we want to hlep that should do it
You will have to post the e-mail address that sent the e-mail from Odd Lot. A lot of us did not recieve it, so can not reply to it.
If you can hold on until Tuesday, July 5th, when everyone is back to work again, I am going to call Odd Lot and get an e-mail address that we can reply to. Their website never seems to be working. If all else fails, get their permission to post their telephone number on everyones' website and message boards so that we can all contact them... :D

OK, here's the only email addy I have. It was on my message from Oddlot.

info@oddlotent.com

Honey- I think the lady who made the other petition has just become my new moderator on my forum, which has taken off suddenly. Was she Deenan? Because that's the gal. I'm sure she'll help big time.

Yes, Hobmom, Deenan is the one. I sent her, and the other three co-authors of the other petition an e-mail this morning, asking their assistance. They have one woman on their team who was writing their press releases, but I think she's currently incommunicado.

honey!

Hobmom- OK, here's the only email addy I have. It was on my message from Oddlot.
Thank you. We also might want to try webmaster@greenstreethooligans.com

I tried info@greenstreethooligans.com and it came back on mailer-daemon that it is not a working address.

Someone needs to seriously jump in that webmaster's a** for never being able to keep the e-mail log-in block working.

The "other" petition team did some contacting of magazines regarding their petition effort. I'll see if I can get to them to come over here, and we can consolidate efforts this time. NOW we have a news story that I think the entertainment magazines will be interested in.

honey!

hi honeyelf and everyone else. i'm deenan and i'm part of the team who made up the other petiton. i'm here to help. what can i and the rest of us do to get this ball rolling?

if this helps, we have contacted "entertainment weekly" and they gave us some email addresses on who we can contact about this.

now where do we go?

Write up a good "press release" about the US distribution of Hooligans, the name change again, fan base support in writing the petitions and helping to distribute the movie, awards that Hooligans has won... This "press release" from the fans sent to every media outlet that we can find will certainly create more of a buzz in the media about Hooligans.

You can find a lot of sources here: http://landmarktheaters.com/Links/Links.htm You can get a lot of media contact info here. You can get their contact info off of their web sites and send each one a copy of the "press release."

thanks txtac. we have that site bookmarked all ready. that's how we came to sending a press release not only to EW, but several other venues. it's just that at that time, only EW responded back. that's entertainment weekly, not elijah wood!

i think now with the news of the release, we will get a more positve repsonse from more people.

i have to contact the lady who wrote the press release and have her do some editing to it to reflect all the new information, and everything you just stated.

btw, has anyone found out how we can contact odd lot? i wonder if the link to insignia p.r. would be the place to go.

never mind. i see some emails you have listed.

Here are some more addresses that are not on the Landmark list:
http://www.the-movie-times.com

**link removed for language on site, not PG-13**

http://www.eonline.com

http://filmstew.com

As a UK fan who has never had any fears of not seeing Hooligans, I have been reading through the last few days posts with a feeling of awe at how you Elwoodians in the US are pulling together on this.

As I read about your intended efforts to publicise the film, the vision came to me of Honeyelf, who if I remember correctly started the first petition, sitting on the couch next to Elijah, being interviewed by Jay Leno or Conan O'Brien. They'll have to get a larger couch with so many of you now getting actively involved, but I do hope it gets that big and you get the recognition you deserve for your efforts.

Good luck to you!!!

As I read about your intended efforts to publicise the film, the vision came to me of Honeyelf, who if I remember correctly started the first petition, sitting on the couch next to Elijah, being interviewed by Jay Leno or Conan O'Brien.

Skater Girl, how often do these visions of yours become reality?!? I'm afraid they'll have to interview someone besides me! It's already been proven that I'm completely incapable of speach in the prescence of Elijah! The prospect of watching a chubby grey haired woman drool on live TV is rather frightening, isn't it? :D Drool, and blush, and I cringe to think what all else! :eek:

I'm afraid they'll have to interview someone besides me!
If Alyon were "here" I'm sure she would reply to this.........since she is on the road I'll just say........"Right On .........Gooooooooo Honey!!!!!".....

YIKES !!!!! I am excited!!!!! Now my goal is not only to publicize this film but see honey on Jay Leno's show with ....... our dear Elijah. Now that is something I would pay Good Money to see. I might have to fly to LA myself to be in the audience to root her on...........oh and .....ahem..... to see EW in person. So....Who else is going?????

:haha: saile

p.s. must be all the fireworks fumes making me looney ...that is loonier????

Just wanted to say "Hello." I know honeyelf through our work on the petitions and have finally found my way to this site. Sorry it took me so long, honeyelf. :)

It took a looooong time to read through this thread, but it was very interesting. Loved your comment about straddling a fence that doesn't need straddling, honeyelf. I agree.

Having some problems figuring out how everything works here. Every site is different.

Yes, Hobmom, Deenan is the one. I sent her, and the other three co-authors of the other petition an e-mail this morning, asking their assistance. They have one woman on their team who was writing their press releases, but I think she's currently incommunicado.

honey!

Are you referring to me, honey? Incommunicado? :confused: Am I supposed to be writing a new press release? Please email me if I am.

Thanks.

Welcome Yeux :)
I see you're from New England :D
OMG are you near Boston?....I'm so excited about the possibility ,I could shoot off a few fireworks!!
I hear it's allowed today!

Happy Fourth to all our American Faculty members

Edit to add: A Belated Welcome to txtac :)

morning all!!!!!!

i know this is a old discution, but i have finnished sean`s book!!!

and frankly i don`t know what to think about it!!!!!!
maybe i have to read it once more to fully understand him!!!!!

but i think he is so full of him self!!
and i am feeling a bit sorry for his family and friends!!!

maybe i got it all wrong !!!!!

welcome to all new ones!!!!!hope you all will love it here with

this lovely family!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Hi...coming out of lurk-mode just to say that I, too,( as a Brit with every chance of seeing this movie in the Autumn ), have been following the discussions about Hooligans and how you can get this to the cinema-screens near you, in the US, and have been extremely impressed with your resolve and determination to get something done...
I shall be convinced that it will be down to you all if this gets more distribution than currently being discussed..even though this is definitely a step in the right direction...

As for me being able to go to the first showings over here, well, if it's going to be August 26th, instead of the 22nd, before it is released, than I'm afraid I will be out of the country...heading off to Poland for a wedding ( three day party :z: , whole village involved :rolleyes: , shedloads of vodka :z: ...you get the picture !!! :lol: )
So I'm afraid I won't be able to see it until I return...

EVERYTHING IS ILLUMINATED

So, to go off on another tangent entirely, I don't know if anyone saw this little snippet posted by someone called Sporkalicious, ( who attended the Preview screening ) at the imdb messageboards for EII, back on the 20th June..

I saw this movie 2 weeks ago at a screening and it was REALLY GREAT! It's not what I thought it'd be like at all. The fact that it had to do with the Holocaust I figured it'd be a depressing movie, but the first half of the movie is HILARIOUS. Everyone in the theater was cracking up. It was beyond funny. The last half hour/hour is more serious. It was nice though, because it had an element that most movies about the topic don't deal with. (they weren't cracking jokes about the holocaust dont worry-my orthodox cousin saw it with me and was laughing up a storm)

anyways i HIGHLY recommend that people see this when it comes out in theaters

Ho hum....I'm looking forward to this movie more than Hooligans, I think...mainly because this could be such a good springboard for Elijah, in terms of being offered some really unusual characters and quirky individual films...there is nothing I'd like more for him, than to get a reputation for being cast in memorable lead roles for memorably original films...I think that's where his future is, imho...

They have one woman on their team who was writing their press releases, but I think she's currently incommunicado. Are you referring to me, honey? Incommunicado? :confused: Am I supposed to be writing a new press release? Please email me if I am.

Oh, Yeux, I'm sorry! Having so recently aquainted myself with you Deenan, and the other three, I still have a little bit of trouble keeping tabs on who's who! :o (Truth be told, I'm hardly better in real life! If I see someone out of their usual context it can take me several momentsto remember their name, and where I know them from!)

Anyway, as to press releases, we were just saying a page or two back that we thought maybe now it looks like distribution of a sorts will be acheived, we have a really interesting story to tell the magazines like People and Entertainment Weekly. What do you think?

honey!

ETA: As to where we go next, I think at this point individuals need to contact Odd Lot telling them they'd like to have GSHooligans in their home-town theater. Am I right here?

As a UK fan who has never had any fears of not seeing Hooligans, I have been reading through the last few days posts with a feeling of awe at how you Elwoodians in the US are pulling together on this.

Ditto to all of this :)! It's really awe-inspiring to see what you American fans do and accomplish! (Oh, and Happy 4th of July!)

Our dear Wood has reached the 900 post mark - that's impressive as well, don't you think? ;) Elijah agrees, obviously...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/elijah-wood_cheering.jpg

Of course, he is sold on Tg's 2,500 posts, too!! :cool:


And my apologies if the following pic has been posted already, but I found it only today and wanted to share it with you. I like his broody mood in this -

*link deleted* Sorry!

I'm *very* curious about this film!

Welcome, Deenan and Yeux de Bleu!! :)

someone saw EII? :eek:

after reading that little bit, i'm even more convinced this will be a wonderful film. i can't wait to see it.

wood~ you're not the only one who thinks sean a. is a bit full of himself. i felt the same thing reading his book. but at least he's honest in his self-absorbtion and admits he can be a pain. that's what i like about him. when i met him last year, he was not into himself one bit. a very open, honest and funny man.

i do think the next step from all of us is to contact odd lot letting them know we are going to do what it takes to get hooligans into our hometown theaters. i've started a little letter that i want to send to a few here. but it's a work in progress at the moment.

you right Deenan !! he says that a lot,that he was a pain!!

i don`t know maybe i have to read it a coupel of time before
i fully understand it since i read it in english some words was hard to understand for me!!!

edit!!thanks whiteling for the congrats!!!!
i wonder if RL exist in my world!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

I have never seen that EII picture before Whiteling, and I really like it. The glasses somehow look less intrusive from the angle it is taken, and the photo also shows the contours of his face to good effect.

I am really looking forward to both upcoming films, and I am a little disappointed that Hooligans will be out while Jonathan Ross's chat show (and probably most others) is off the air for summer. It would have been a good platform for Elijah to promote the film to the kind of audience who would be up for such a film, and I can't quite see the daytime shows wanting to push it.

Love that second picture you posted, Whiteling! (Well, I like the other too, of course.) Just occured to me that those aren't Jonathan's glasses he's wearing in that pic. They aren't big enough. I think they must be his own.'

Ooops! Forgot to say congrats on 900, Wood! And TG! 2500! W :eek: W!

BunnieBugs- That's one of Elijah's personal photos that was taken without permission from his friend Jason's website
Well, don't keep us in suspense! What is "friend Jason's" website address? What else is there...?

Wow! What a busy week I missed!

First, I'd like to congratulate the Green Street Hooligans crew. Very nice going, folks! However, regarding "Be Part of the Team" *face palms* That might do very well for us, but as for the movie -- are they so missing the point, or what? I'd expect this tag line to be part of a Saturn commercial. :rolleyes: Well, we will work with what we have.

I'm afraid they'll have to interview someone besides me! It's already been proven that I'm completely incapable of speach in the prescence of Elijah!
Honey, you are completely missing the entertainment value here. I myself would scream with sympathetic laughter if you were interviewed and couldn't get out one word. Show the world what Elijah really does to people!

Now my goal is not only to publicize this film but see honey on Jay Leno's show with ....... our dear Elijah.
*gets in line behind Saile* ;)

Wood, you will find plenty of people to agree with that assessment of Sean's book. Good for you for finishing it! (I flipped pages a lot.) :D It's nice to hear that he's nice in person, but I think he's a bit too high maintenance for my personal tastes.

Lady Wendy, thank you for that lovely EII review. I agree, this film sounds much more to my personal taste, although I do want to see GSH as well. :)

there is nothing I'd like more for him, than to get a reputation for being cast in memorable lead roles for memorably original films
This sounds great!

Neat EII piccie, Whiteling! (Oops, just read Bunnie's explanation. Never mind!) *averts eyes, will not download*

Oh, Yeux, I'm sorry! Having so recently aquainted myself with you Deenan, and the other three, I still have a little bit of trouble keeping tabs on who's who! :o (Truth be told, I'm hardly better in real life! If I see someone out of their usual context it can take me several moments to remember their name, and where I know them from!)

Anyway, as to press releases, we were just saying a page or two back that we thought maybe now it looks like distribution of a sorts will be acheived, we have a really interesting story to tell the magazines like People and Entertainment Weekly. What do you think?

honey!

ETA: As to where we go next, I think at this point individuals need to contact Odd Lot telling them they'd like to have GSHooligans in their home-town theater. Am I right here?

:D Oh, don't feel bad, honey. I'm like you....when I see someone online or in RL out of the usual context, it takes me a second or two to figure out where I've seen them before, too.

It seems that I either didn't receive deenan's email about this or inadvertantly deleted it before I'd read it. We had so many emails flying back and forth through cyberspace that day, that I may have missed it. She saw my post here and resent it this morning. I'll reply tomorrow to you and the rest of the "petition mission" group. Thought everyone would like a day off from this since it's a holiday here in the US.

On another subject......I've set up profiles in several forums, but I'm having a problem here and can't find any answers in the "Help" sections. I want to insert an avatar from my Photobucket. The profile field for that defaults to http://www., but my URL doesn't have a www in it and the field won't accept my URL. Any suggestions on how I get around this?

Second, I wrote something for a siggie, it shows up perfectly in "Preview," I saved it, but it isn't showing up in my posts. Again, what might I be doing incorrectly?

Any help from all you pros would be appreciated.


Edit -- Oh, I see that my siggie is suddenly working after all. Maybe I had to exit and log in again to activate it.

morning all!!!! :k

Yeux ,sorry but can`t help you out!! :(

I joyned this wonderful place years ago and i hade some help from the others with my avatar!!

I woulde like to change my but can`t remeber how!!!! :(

I think one of the others woulde love to help you out when they get back from the holliday!!!! :z:

Talking about real life!!!!Iwas thinking this morning about my babygirl,she will
be five years old on saturday!!!!!!
She almost grow up with LOTR-movies and there is on girl who will know
everything about ELIJAH when she is older!!!!!
Her poor mother sitts by the computer every day searching for news and pictures!! :lol:
And looking at music videos ,and extramateriel!!! :lol:
She must be thinking her old mother is begining to freak out!!! :lol:

TG 2500 POSTS!!! CONGTRATS!!!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Honey, you are completely missing the entertainment value here. I myself would scream with sympathetic laughter if you were interviewed and couldn't get out one word. Show the world what Elijah really does to people!

You're absolutely right, Mariole! How could I have forgotten that I exist to make you scream with hysterical, sympathetic laughter! ;)

On another subject......I've set up profiles in several forums, but I'm having a problem here and can't find any answers in the "Help" sections. I want to insert an avatar from my Photobucket. The profile field for that defaults to http://www., but my URL doesn't have a www in it and the field won't accept my URL. Any suggestions on how I get around this?

Yeux, if I recall correctly you have to have thirty posts before they let you have an avatar. Strange but true. (Who thinks up these things?) Just let us get a post in edgewise every once in a while. ;) Those thirty post will add up before you know it! (Can't believe I'm nearly at 700!)

And regarding Green Street Hooligans, I don't see why we can't keep discussing it here (now that we've finally got you here! And did I remember to say welcome to you and Deenan? Welcome!) That particular ball is in play, and we're all about to make the winning kick, if we want to play. :eek: I just used a sports metaphor!

Gonna go brush the ash out of my hair, and the strawberry seeds from between my teeth, and hit the hay. I love the fourth of July! :)

honey!

Re that EII pic: Yes, those are Elijah's own glasses. That's one of Elijah's personal photos that was taken without permission from his friend Jason's website, unfortunately.
I'm so sorry! :o :o :o I had no idea of what origin that (admittedly adorable) picture was. I deleted the photo from my post of yesterday, and promise to be more careful in the future. *You didn't seen it, right?* :rolleyes:

*You didn't seen it, right?* :rolleyes:See what? ;)

Nope haven`t seen anything!!! :k

What have i mised??? :)

WOOD

Well, don't keep us in suspense! What is "friend Jason's" website address? What else is there...?
that site was shut down a long time ago by jason when he got pissed everyone was "taking" his pics and posting them all over the net. i wonder why he would put private pics on the net in the first place. :rolleyes:

if you've been trying to get your email on the hooligans website, it's working now, so hurry and sign up! :cool:

Help!!
i can`t save my e-mail adress on hooligan`s website
i have tryed all three!!!!!!

it only comes up errorsaving email!!!!!!!

WOOD

It's not out on DVD yet but it's probably out there somewhere to download, if you're of a mind to do that.

Just wanted to say: North is out on DVD. I have it. :haha: (Ahem.sorry.)

Just wanted to say: North is out on DVD. I have it. :haha: (Ahem.sorry.)The DVD for Region 1?

i tooo have it on DVD!!!!!

WHAT REGION I HAVE NO IDER!!!!

GOT IT FROM A VERY NICE AMERICAN!!!!!!! :k :k

I CAN SEE IT BUT THEN I HAVE A REGIONFREE DVD-PLAYER!!!!

WOOD

North has been (commercially ;) ) available on DVD in Europe for quite some time, but as far as I know it's not available on region 1 DVD unless someone has privately copied it that way. The fact that wood got it from an American makes me wonder--maybe that American had an all-region player, or gave it to wood because it wasn't region 1?

I still have hopes for a region 1 DVD of North :z: . It's the only one of Elijah's theatrical (as opposed to made-for-TV) movies not available that way, thanks to the release within the last couple of years of Paradise, Radio Flyer, The Good Son, and Chain of Fools.

Have no ider realy!!

Maybe its a copy from video to dvd??

WOOD

EDIT!!! VERY NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN TG!!!

wood--if it's in a professional-looking case and/or has any special features, it's probably a legitimate DVD, since it's been sold in Europe for awhile now. Region 1 is for the U.S. and Canada, and most machines sold here are pretty much limited to that region's DVDs, although there are exceptions and some can be reset a limited number of times.

Since most of "us" have North on VHS anyway, the most important thing about a region 1 DVD release would be that a lot more people would buy and watch the movie.

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Also -- how could I forget :o :o

Two more older EJW movies recently out on DVD are Flipper and Oliver Twist (although the latter doesn't "count" on the previous list since it was made for TV).

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ETA: I'm trying to figure out why we keep getting O.B.-related ads on pages where he's never mentioned. :confused:

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If someone has been successful at submitting their email after wood's effort didn't work, could you let us know, please? :z:

wood--if it's in a professional-looking case and/or has any special features, it's probably a legitimate DVD, since it's been sold in Europe for awhile now. Perhaps it was someone here in the States who bought it, thinking they could play it and couldn't. Sounds like something I'd do ;)

And Eandme and everyone else who isn't American, I hope you will forgive my chauvanistic cheek. When I said North wasn't available on DVD, I should have been more explicit and said it wasn't available from Region 1. :k

You're absolutely right, Mariole! How could I have forgotten that I exist to make you scream with hysterical, sympathetic laughter!
Ahah, a wench who knows her place! Er, meaning her place is on the couch, next to Elijah Wood. :k :)

Thanks for the DVD and H news. Cheers!

Achila wrote=...forgive my chauvanistic cheek. When I said North wasn't available on DVD
That's OK. We have South on DVD. :haha:

Mariole wrote= Ahah, a wench who knows her place!
Where! Where! I've been looking for a good wench who knows her place. If you can find one- let me know! :lol: If anyone is looking for a good mench, I have one in mind... :D

Mariole wrote= ...her place is on the couch, next to Elijah Wood.
When did Elijah take up psychiatry ? Or is he starting to give romance lessons again...?


Sorry about that. I am just bored out of my skull. I've been sitting by the phone all day waiting for Odd Lot to return my call on the Odd Lot public contact point. :mad:

Sorry about that. I am just bored out of my skull. I've been sitting by the phone all day waiting for Odd Lot to call me back on an Odd Lot public contact point yet. :mad:

And I expect that I speak for several of us, when I say that I've not got far from my computer awaiting news, too! :rolleyes:

honey!

tgshaw wrote= ETA: I'm trying to figure out why we keep getting O.B.-related ads on pages where he's never mentioned.
It's a communist plot to disrupt your Elwoodian squeesearch! :cool:

A late WELCOME to Deenan and Yeux de bleu.
Any suggestions on how I get around this?As far as the avatar problem, I too was not able to use one from photobucket. I wound up just browsing my own computer files and had no trouble with uploading one. Except for the resizing :confused: Took me a bit to figure that out.
WOOD, if you really want to change your avatar, you might try that. Use the browse button and UPLOAD it from your computer. Just make sure it is NOT larger than 50x50 pixels or 19.5k. And Congratulations on 900 posts. Always enjoy your posts. :k

I could NOT :( get the email link at greenstreethooligans to work, so I sent an email using the address Hobmom posted. Eager to hear from them.

The New York Times ARTS section did a story/photos on "The Rise of Gypsy Punkers" on July 2nd.
How many Gypsy punk groups does it take to start a movement? Seven years ago, when Eugene Hutz, an immigrant from Ukraine, formed the band Gogol Bordello, the answer might have been one. Its concerts, mingling the passionate rage of punk with the ragtag theatricality of traditional Gypsy music, quickly caught on and Mr. Hutz. a rangy philosopher-acrobat, established himself as a leading figure of New York's downtown culture, underground and otherwise; in September, he will make his feature film debut, starring with Elijah Wood in Liev Schreiber's adaptation of "Everything Is Illuminated," a novel by Jonathan Safran Foer.At least the article did not put the LOTR reference next to Elijah's name.

saile :D :D

Who was it that was whining about the heat a couple of days ago? Today in Texas it topped out at 101 F. with a heat index of 110 F. :o No wonder Elijah doesn't want to buy a house here like some of the other movie stars :mad: despite the fact that he has made more movies here then anywhere else. :lol:

If someone has been successful at submitting their email after wood's effort didn't work, could you let us know, please? :z:

i have no idea what's going on, but i just posted a second email on the hooligans website not 5 minutes ago with no problem. i guess you just have to keep trying. :z:

"The first thing we do is kill all the webmasters" Hooliganspeare 2005


After two phone calls to Odd Lot today, this is the word:

"Technical Difficulties."

With the switch-over from the "hooligansthefilm" website to the "greenstreethooligans" website, the new website is not completely up and running yet. There are some bugs that they are still working out. They will call me tonight, or tommorrow when the "webguys" finish electrocuting themselves. In the mean time, hang in there. The website should be working and able to log everybody in by tommorrow (sometime) (?).


:z: Anyone want a full size standee of Frodo? They are on sale now from the New Line Cinema Online Shop. Check it out:

http://shop.newline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=27486;category_id=5565;pcid1=;pcid2=

Does this count as a "squee standee" ?

txtac, I combined your last three posts into one. If you're the last poster, and you want to say something more, you should just hit the 'edit' button in the lower right hand corner of your last post, and save the changes. We only allow double posts here when it's been longer than 24 hours and no one else has posted. (Yup, even when you're trying to get enough posts to get an avator. :D ).

(Since there's more than one new person here, working on getting their 30 posts, might I suggest heading over to The Asylum (http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=2) ? It's the silly corner of Khazad-dum, and there's a few threads there you can easily drop a few posts into without having to spend a lot of time getting to know people. Gee, that made it sound like a cheap pick-up bar :p )

Narya hath spoken: Yup, even when you're trying to get enough posts to get an avator.
D*mn!!! :(

Oops Actually Wood, you got the North DVD from me. (It's ok!! :k ) So there should be no confusion. It is out on DVD but I guess not Region 1.

Which is a pity! Even though the movie itself is a bit on the crap side, I enjoyed Elijah's performance. I thought the treehouse had an uncanny likeness with the treehouse in The War, did anyone else think about that? :eek:

sorry eandme!!!!!! :k :k

there are so many kind people here who are willing to share

so i guess i got little confused!!!!!

sorry!!!!! :k :k

WOOD

I personally like North. Yeah, it's not rocket science and it's surely not one of Lij's best movies, but, IMHO, it doesn't deserve the "Ishtar" like references it gets. It's a child's fantasy and should be viewed in that light.

BTW, the Green Street Hooligans site now appears to be accepting email addresses -- it took mine this morning.

i too thought it was a cute little movie!

thanks achila i will run over there right now

WOOD

Gee, that made it sound like a cheap pick-up bar :p )
Your point being? :confused: ;) [Runs from any leftover trout :p ]

Thanks to Deenan and others for news on the email submission at the GSH site (I realized late last night why they had to make the movie's name longer. It was about the only EJW film we couldn't refer to by initials. :haha: )

In my never-ending quest to use my own obsessions to fulfill needs that no one has :rolleyes: , and inspired by everyone's actually useful efforts and the appearance of a GSH pic that finally shouts "graphics!", I've made a few GSH page backgrounds and some buttons and dividers:
http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/id6.htm .

If anyone wants buttons with text on them, or anything else that's not there, just post any requests here and I'll get them online with the ones that are there now. (As I say on the "What's New" page, I haven't mastered making buttons that aren't square or rectangular. I'm sure it has something to do with transparent backgrounds; if I figure it out, I'll post some round ones.)

The pages are on the "What's New" part of the site, meaning it only takes seconds to publish so I can update it often, but I can work on the graphics only on my home computer--no Paint Shop at the office (which is probably a very good thing :p ).

Who was it that was whining about the heat a couple of days ago? Today in Texas it topped out at 101 F. with a heat index of 110 F.

Completely off-topic. But I have a young friend currently serving in Iraq. The temperature there is in the 120's! We've been sending him little care packages of toiletries and junk food to share with his mates. You can't send stick deoderant becuase it'll just melt and run out the hole in the bottom of the tube. They like to receive packets of hot chocolate. Why would anyone want hot chocolate in that heat you ask? At "room tempature" the water is always hot anyway. If there's a place that's Mordor on this earth, I'd say Iraq is probably it. I can't imagine wanting to move at all in 120 degree heat, let alone keep an eye out for insurgents, and IED's! If any of you are the praying type, spare a little prayer for our guys over there.

Feel cooler now? :)

honey!

honeyelf- They like to receive packets of hot chocolate. Why would anyone want hot chocolate in that heat you ask?
Leave it to the guys in the field to come up with other concoctions to make the food palitable. White milk (cooler, not really cold) is still served in the mess (food) tents. You can add the hot chocolate powder and make chocolate milk. You can also add the hot chocolate powder to the hedious powdered coffee to make it more palitable. It makes a poor mocha cuppacino, but it is better than the highly acidic coffee. Tabasco sauce, chili powder and powdered chedder cheese are always sought after by the guys in the field.

Honeyelf, if you want and the other members of this board will help, we could start our own support group to send "some comforts of home" to our troops overseas. ???
Hooligan support for the REAL fighters. It will make the new tag line "BE PART OF THE TEAM" actually mean something.

I spent 90 days on a metal ship sitting in the Gulf of Oman in 1979 waiting to invade Iran and/or rescue our embassy hostages when the Iranian "college students" took over our Embassy in Iran in '79. They took the entire American Embassy staff hostage for over a year. I know heat. It was 120 to 130 degrees F. just sitting there in the sun waiting. None of the air conditioning on US Navy ships are built to take that kind of heat. In the middle of the day, when it is the hottest, we had to stay on the top deck of the ship, because it was cooler then being down below in a metal oven. If you want to start a support team for the guys over there now, I'm for it.

We need to contact Odd Lot again. The USO is always showing movies to the troops overseas. Sometimes it is hard to come up with a good movie to show the troops. If Odd Lot would be willing to turn over a copy of Hooligans to be shown to the troops overseas, it would generate a lot more buzz, especially when the troops come home. Everyone in the military likes to see a good "kick-em-in-the-nuts" movie. While Odd Lot is still looking for free publicity, it would be a good public relations/patriotic gesture and a lot more people who would really enjoy that kind of a movie will be able to see it! What does "BE PART OF THE TEAM" mean again ?

TxTac said: Honeyelf, if you want and the other members of this board will help, we could start our own support group to send "some comforts of home" to our troops overseas. ??? Hooligan support for the REAL fighters. It will make the new tag line "BE PART OF THE TEAM" actually mean something.
That's a sweet idea, TxTac. Unfortunately you can no longer send mail to "any soldier." My friend gets lots of mail; his mom is one of my quilting buddies, and you ain't seen caring problem solvers until you've seen a group of quilters go after something.

But my young friend in Irag is a Navy medic, and some of "his men," the ones he takes care of, never get any mail. If anyone would like to drop these guys a line send me a PM and I'll get you names and addresses.

I love you all of you here! We've already proven that when we put our collective (only slightly deranged, but playful) minds to a thing we can work wonders! It'd be sweet to see that brain power, and caring turned to something useful. Maybe we should start a thread elsewhere?

hugs,
honey!

Some new stills from EII turned up today, including this one, which I know folks have been wanting to see:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/new16.jpg

The rest are here (http://wippub.warnerbros.com/movie/everything/imagegallery.html?page=1).

BunnieBugs, thank you for the premium pictures.

Anybody else reminded of Cary Grant in Bringing Up Baby by the picture taken at night of Jonathan writing in his diary?

Hi to all the new Faculty members!

C4

At last! On the second page of those new photos (thanks, Bun!), there's a shot of a young guy who looks Maori or Philipino, perhaps -- it's photo 9, from L to R. There was a picture of him standing next to Elijah at Karlovy Vary last year, and no identification of who he was. Looks to me like he was one of the crew. DP or Assistant DP or something, perhaps?

Oh! Oh! BunnieBugs! Just what I needed! Thank you. But Sammy Davis Junior Junior doesn't look big enough to frighten anybody. Although I suppose if you've "had some pretty bad experiences" with dogs, she might be scary.

And ceefour, I can see what you mean about Cary Grant. (Not to mention that it's a VERY nice picture.) Hmmm. Didn't someone else on here once mention CG, when discussing possible career paths that Elijah might consider as models?

At last! On the second page of those new photos (thanks, Bun!), there's a shot of a young guy who looks Maori or Philipino, perhaps -- it's photo 9, from L to R. There was a picture of him standing next to Elijah at Karlovy Vary last year, and no identification of who he was. Looks to me like he was one of the crew. DP or Assistant DP or something, perhaps?

Pretty sure he's a camera man (that's what I had heard several months ago, anyway). He's behind the camera in that behind-the-scenes shot of the men in the car and that last one of Liev, too.

Pretty sure he's a camera man (that's what I had heard several months ago, anyway). He's behind the camera in that behind-the-scenes shot of the men in the car and that last one of Liev, too.Cool -- thanks!

Nice photos BunnieBugs! Keep them coming! :lol:

Honeyelf wrote: Unfortunately you can no longer send mail to "any soldier." ...some of "his men," the ones he takes care of, never get any mail... We've already proven that when we put our collective (only slightly deranged, but playful) minds to a thing we can work wonders! It'd be sweet to see that brain power, and caring turned to something useful.
Maybe we should start a thread elsewhere?
Maybe we should take this somewhere else. It doesn't have much to do with Elijah unless you want to say it's from his fanbase.
The Pentagon has lots of "adopt a platoon, company, ship" campaigns. It wouldn't be hard for Elijah's fanbase ("Hooligan Support Team" to name one) to adopt a person, or group and help push Elijah Wood popularity, or one of his movies, specifically Hooligans since we are all trying to help that one right now.

Those pics are indeed 'premium'! :D

Maybe we should take this somewhere else. It doesn't have much to do with Elijah unless you want to say it's from his fanbase.
You're being affected by telepathy from Narya driving you to rack up your posts in one of the other forums :eek: ;) . Another idea would be a Community-Cafe-wide-project. :)

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Bunnie, great pics. :cool: Thanks. Ditto on the diary pic being a very nice one--I also like the one with Jonathan standing alone in the middle of the vacant parking lot.

Sammy Davis Junior, Junior is exactly right, IMHO. A dog that only someone who's afraid of dogs in general would be afraid of. But, then, being that she's deranged, some fear might not be out of place. She does have quite a grin on her face in the picture--is she already being affected by Jonathan's cologne? :D

And the "Officious Seeing-Eye Bitch" T-shirt! :lol:

We also get to see a bit of Little Igor, it seems (as well as more than a bit of the material Alex uses to educate him :rolleyes: ).

I keep looking at Elwood in the various pics, trying to pry out little differences in facial expression... This movie could be so good, and he could be so good in it... :z: :z:

tgshaw- ...Narya driving you to rack up your posts in one of the other forums
Ahah! Trying to get rid of me so soon eh? :haha:
The "idiot idea boy" is here to stay. Knowledge is forever and I am just beginning my Squeesearch.

tgshaw- Another idea would be a Community-Cafe wide project.
So how do we contact everyone all at the same time?

Ahah! Trying to get rid of me so soon eh?
No, no one wants to get rid of you :( -- But a lot of us post in other KD forums besides the Community Cafe. They're not mutually exclusive! (While Sin City was in theaters, there was a thread for it in the Mall, and there's an EII book discussion going on in the Library right now.)

So how do we contact everyone all at the same time?
There's a "sticky" thread up towards the top of the forum called "Community Cafe Bulletin Board." Not everybody reads it, but enough do that they can take info back to their various threads. And more people would probably see it on the "Bulletin Board" than might check out a new thread they didn't know anything about (not that it couldn't have a thread of its own; just that the Bulletin Board would be a good place to let people know about it).

--A mod can be the judge, here, but since this is the Community Cafe, I'd think something like that might be on topic. Even if a mod decides a full thread should go in a different forum, it could still be announced/publicized/explained in the Bulletin Board thread.

Thank you for the info tgshaw. I might post a blip on the bulletin board to see if there is any interest in creating a help/support group.

It was brought to my attention that the June issue of Toy Review magazine has Elijah's Sin City character Kevin (action figure) as the front cover. If anyone lives close to a book store that stocks Toy Review magazine, look for the June issue and buy it. Scan the cover in and post it. I know that a lot of us out there are waiting to see what Elijah/Kevin looks like in the plastic flesh. At least this Elijah we can take home and caress... :cool: (That's the action figure, not the cover photo...)

Elijah realized that he was a star when they made him (Frodo) into an action figure. Now, Elijah has four action figures. Does that make him four times the bigger star? Can you name all four?

Scan the cover in and post it. I know that a lot of us out there are waiting to see what Elijah/Kevin looks like in the plastic flesh.
Didn't someone link to this awhile back? Sorry I don't remember who. :o

At least this Elijah we can take home and caress... :cool:
Uh, well... Um... :eek:

Now, Elijah has four action figures. Does that make him four times the bigger star? Can you name all four?
Hmmm... He has at least two "Kevins" now... And about a gazillion versions of Frodo... But I don't know of any others.

Huck, Stu, Leo, Casey, Mikey II, The Guy, and Video Game Kid #1 should have action figures (hey, I'd buy them all :p ), but I don't think they do... Is Matt getting one?

As far as caressing--I'm bettin' on a big plush of Mumbles! :cool: :k

I think that Elijah looks cool in armor as "the Guy" in Spy Kids 3-D. If anyone made that, I would buy it too.

About the Matt action figure, would you like a "clean-cut" version that is "super poseable" or a "cut-up and bloody" version that when you squeeze his legs together the arm swings out like it is trying to hit you and when you squeeze the arms together, a leg pops up like it is trying to kick you?

tgshaw- He has at least two "Kevins" now... And about a gazillion versions of Frodo... But I don't know of any others.
Two Kevins ? I only know of the first one coming out in August by NECA. Who made another one?

These are the four that I know about:

Toy Biz- LOTR, The Fellowship of the Ring series: Frodo with Sword Attack Action
Toy Biz- LOTR, The Two Towers series: Super Poseable Frodo
Toy Biz- LOTR, Return of the King series: Frodo in Orc Armor
Neca- Sin City, Kevin http://www.necaonline.com/sincitynews31.html

Two Kevins ? I only know of the first one coming out in August by NECA. Who made another one? I think that TG was referring to the fact that there are two versions of Kevin coming out: one in color and one in black and white. Plus, the site hints at yet another version coming out at a later date.


These are the four that I know about:
Toy Biz- LOTR, The Fellowship of the Ring series: Frodo with Sword Attack Action
Toy Biz- LOTR, The Two Towers series: Super Poseable Frodo
Toy Biz- LOTR, Return of the King series: Frodo in Orc Armor
Neca- Sin City, Kevin http://www.necaonline.com/sincitynews31.htmlThere are actually more Frodos than that (there is the Grey Havens version, for one), though I limited myself to only one (TTT Frodo with light-up Sting!
:cool: ).

I should have learned by now to go straight to the horses mouth. For the Toy Biz LOTR action figures, go to: http://www.toybiz.com/showgroup.htm?group=2

Check out the new "twist-ems" that actually walk! http://www.toybiz.com/showassort.htm?id=81425&status=active
The Frodo twist-em is SQUEE Cute! I have to get one now...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/kevin2.jpg

Sorry you are not happy, Honeyelf. :k

Maybe because I am tired and should be asleep (it's after midnight here), but does anybody else think that Neca's Kevin looks more like Liev Schrieber than EW?

C- :confused: -4

Woke up this morning to news of the explosions in London. I hope that all of our Faculty members in the UK and their families are all right.

tgshaw wrote: And the "Officious Seeing-Eye Bitch" T-shirt! ??? Where was that?

As for action figures, if they do Matt, I want him in that navy turtleneck! And a Casey AF wouldn't be bad, either. :)

Woke up this morning to news of the explosions in London. I hope that all of our Faculty members in the UK and their families are all right.
I just dashed off an e-mail to Wendy, telling her that we are worried. :(

Bunnie, thanks for those lovely EiI stills. I especially like the one of Jonathan writing in his journal. Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. isn't the dog I hoped she'd be, and Jonathan doesn't look quite as afraid of her as he might, IMVHO.

((((C4)))) :k

TG, I'm with you in hoping for a Big Stuffed Mumbles!

And Pelagia, I'd buy a Casey action figure in a heart beat! (Might even pet him a little. My OA Frodo gets a kiss on the head now and again...) :o

honey!

Hi....just popped in to say that I am OK and that Pearl is also OK...Ghyste has gone away for two days, but she left this morning and I have no idea whether she managed to get there or not...

London is very calm, with an almost tangible air of Wartime Spirit about it...there is no panic, and no dramatics...just that British Stiff Upper Lip !!

I was due to work a late shift today, but got no further than Ealing Broadway tube station...everything was non-operational, no tube, no trains to Paddington, and no buses to Central london...and God only knows how people are going to get home tonight !! ( Adam may have to walk the five miles from Shepherd's Bush to Ealing )

What was originally reported as seven bomb-blasts has been corrected to four, as there was some confusion, with the tube blasts, as to exactly which stations they occurred at...people were offloaded from the trains in the middle of the tunnels and had to walk, in some cases for fifteen minutes along the pitch-black tunnel to the nearest station, and so you had some people being led in one direction and other people being led in another...therefore it looked as if there had been two blasts instead of one !!

However.all is clear now ! The latest news can be seen instantly here :-

The Good Old BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/)

An obscure Al-Qaeda group that no-one has ever heard of, have claimed resposibility...

:mad: :mad: :mad:

We shall not let them win !!!

i just saw the news!!!!!

am so happy you all are okey!!!!!!! :k :k :k


WOOD

Glad you're okay, Lady Wendy! I've been worrying about people over there ever since I woke to the news. What a horrifying thing! :(

Lady Wendy, glad to hear that you and the others are fine. God only knows how people are going to get home tonight !! I just had an e-mail from a friend who works near Lancaster Gate and lives in Hammersmith. She was heading out to walk home. But I guess she's relatively lucky, by comparison with suburbanites.

(Back to more frivolous matters.) honeyelf wrote: My OA Frodo gets a kiss on the head now and again... That's all right. So does my TTT Frodo (with light-up Sting). :o :o

I don't know enough yet about the London explosions to make any comments--just glad that our friends all seem to be okay :z: .

Prim hasn't posted for weeks, but she was evidently lurking several hours ago... Hmmm... Wonder why? To make it more worthwhile, here's a Frodo picture I don't think I've posted before. It's from while the hobbits are hiding beneath the tree roots from the Black Rider:

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/Fellowship/cropcap5337-85-adjust.jpg

Happy Birthday, Prim!

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Pelagia--We don't see the writing on the "Officious Seeing-Eye Bitch" T-shirt in the picture, but she's wearing a T-shirt, so I assume it has to be the one! :D

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On action figures -- I was counting the head that the Marv character carries as the first Kevin action figure. :p [ETA: Although I guess Kevin isn't too "active" in that one. :p ]

As far as Frodo figures--I haven't updated this page for awhile, but this is what was available at amazon.com last I checked: Action Figures and Dolls (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Bywater/id52.htm).

Glad you are OK, Wendy! And Pearl too. Will be good to get word of Ghyste, whom I don't know, but whose name is one I recognize.

Happy Birthday, Prim! :k :k
"Hey! Where'd you go? We were just starting to have fun!" ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/sese.jpg

honey!

I have been lurking here of late too.

My thoughts are with all those in London and I'm glad to hear everyone from the message boards is okay. I saw a picture of the bus. How devastating and how sad. :(

A belated welcome to all the newcomers!

And, Happy Birthday Prim!!

Shelbyshire

Honey:
Will be good to get word of Ghyste, whom I don't know, but whose name is one I recognize.

She just posted this in her L J...

Just wanted you to know that I'm fine. I was in London today at a conference (which got cancelled) but nowhere near the bombings. Unfortunately I had no internet access and the mobile networks were down for most of the day, so I couldn't let anyone know I was OK.

So far, everyone is OK !!!

:k for all our London friends (and for all the rest of you too!)

As a diversion, I've been posting IMDB reader comments on my LJ again -- it's aquila0212, if anyone would like to have a sniff around.

Whew! I was worried about everyone in London and glad to see that they seem to be OK! So glad ladies! :k

:cool: Hobmom :cool:

An Evening of Musical Gaming
Video game music celebrated at the Hollywood Bowl
by Kimi Matsuzaki, 07/06/2005


Video game developers, composers, and fans alike gathered tonight at the Hollywood Bowl for a celebration of video games and music, known as Video Games Live. Tonight was the premiere event which kicked off a tour of eighteen stops, including Canada. Video Games Live was co-created three years ago by Tommy Tallarico and Jack Wall, with the 1UP community's very own Becky Young, aka Aktrez, as Marketing Coordinator.

There were various activities for the pre-show event: Videotopia, an exhibit chronicling the history of arcade games complete with actual cabinets, Meet and Greet with Tommy Tallarico and Jack Wall, and a Costume Contest. The winner of the Costume Contest, Kevin, dressed as The Fury from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, and won a PSP courtesy of 1UP along with a bag of Video Games Live swag. The runner-up, Becky, dressed as The Boss from the same game.

The audience was treated to a spectacular show of music by the LA Philharmonic, video game clips, laser light show, and interaction with the audience. One lucky person, a fourteen year old boy, beat out a lady at Frogger to win an AMD gaming laptop. Actors portraying Giddeon Wyeth from Advent Rising and characters from Tron made appearances on stage during their respective song sets. Following the classic crowd pleaser, Super Mario Brothers, Tommy Tallarico and Jack Wall took requests from the audience and predictably, Halo was what the crowd shouted out as their request. Video game pianist Martin Leung also made an appearance during the Final Fantasy song "One Winged-Angel".

A variety of video game developers and composers were involved during the show, including Hideo Kojima, Yuji Naka (making his first US appearance ever), Ted Price, Lorne Lanning, Marty O'Donnell, Koji Kondo via pre-recorded video. Elijah Wood and Stan Lee were also present. 1UP had the pleasure of interviewing many of these industry professionals, so stay tuned for more in-depth coverage!

And be sure to go over to BunnieBug's LJ (bunniewabbit) to see lovely pics!

In case you're still lurking...

Happy Birthday, Prim!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/LOTR%20photos%20-%20misc/cap518.jpg

I second Achila's recommendation of Bunnie's new pix!

tgshaw wrote: We don't see the writing on the "Officious Seeing-Eye Bitch" T-shirt in the picture, but she's wearing a T-shirt, so I assume it has to be the one! Oh, thanks for clarifying that. I was beginning to think that I need an officious seeing-eye bitch!

And thanks for the Action Figures link -- and for pointing out "Minimate" Frodo's Ring chain. What were they thinking?? It looks like a hula hoop. I can just see him with this on Caradhras, or in the Dead Marshes.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/MinimateFrodo.jpg

Is that lego? :confused:

Used to have Hours of fun with lego, especially pirates and soldiers. Happy days indeed :lol: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Re Minimate Frodo -- Oh lord -- I love the girly eyes and lips on that thing....*falls down laughing hysterically*

Could someone take pity on a poor stooge and post this picture of the Frodo Twist-Em up on the message board. I still can't get my computer to do it. http://www.toybiz.com/showassort.htm?id=81425&status=active
Thank you.

Concerning this new rash of bombings in London. Anyone who is following terrorism, knew that something was going to happen.
The G-8 conference is in Scotland right now and after they just announced that London recieved the Olympics in 2012, the London targets were "green lighted." It is a sad event, but the people in London should have been expecting it after their history with the IRA. If you live in London, keep your heads down for the next couple of days. It is my educated guess (after keeping track of terrorism for the past 30 years) that this is not going to be the last of it. There will be more bombings over the next couple of days. Keep your heads down.

((((U.K. Faculty Members))))

Achila, shall I bring my Minimate Frodos with us when we attend the LOTR Symphony? I have the one in the picture and Frodo with the Ring on. That one has some incredible eyebrow acting going on. ;)

C-picked up the HobbitMobile today-4

Could someone take pity on a poor stooge and post this picture of the Frodo Twist-Em up on the message board. I still can't get my computer to do it. txtac, you first need to post the photo on an image-hosting site like PhotoBucket, and then you can post your pic on the board from there:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/LOTR%20photos%20-%20misc/81429.jpg

BTW, where's your avatar? *whistles innocently*

Edited to add: I keep staring at this thing. I absolutely love wind-up toys, and started a collection at one point in my youth. I gave it up, but I would so buy one of these silly things if I should happen across it. *facepalm* :rolleyes:

Just got off the phone with Odd Lot: "THE WEBPAGE IS WORKING NOW!" If you haven't logged in your e-mail address yet to help distribute the movie Green Street Hooligans, pop on over now and try it. It should accept your e-mail address now. http://www.greenstreethooligans.com


BunnieBugs- BTW, where's your avatar?
You mean this one? I think it turned out nicely. Thank you.

The face on the twist-em looks a lot more like Elijah than the Minimate, or half of the Toy Biz action figures of Frodo. I have some bright blue paint to repaint the eyes on the twist-em. Now the only problem is to keep my dog from eating it when I take Frodo out for a walk now... :lol:

How about a Frodo Twist-em avatar?

The Green Street Hooligans website is now accepting e-mail addies. He says for now our best action is to go to the website and give your e-mail address there. They will be posting updates to us in the future. He has my phone number now too.

Apparently their e-mail list is at least somewhat functional. I got last Friday's missive delivered to another e-mail address of mine twice over the weekend.

I'm sorry that this is kind of non-news. The web-site is behaving fine just now, so go sign-up if you haven't done already. It's all we can do right now until further instruction comes down the line.

Like your avatar TxTac!

honey!

De-lurking only just in time for...PRIM'S BIRTHDAY (http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Prim.gif)

I'm happy to hear all of our London ladies appear to be OK and accounted for. My sister lives and works in London, but thankfully she is fine. What a sad day it has been.

On a brighter note - welcome to our newcomers - txtac, Deenan and Yeux. It's great that all your (and Honey's, of course) hard work on behalf of Hooligans seems to have had the desired effect. A limited release is better than no release. Well done, all. :)

Achila - I very much enjoyed reading those very appreciative Frodo/Elijah ROTK reviews on your LJ. Thanks.

And Bunnie - Thanks for the new EII pics - especially Jonathan writing in his journal! Very nice!

Re-lurking...

Well, I still can't get the sign-up-for-e-mail thingy to work on the GSH website. :mad: And I'd like to suggest a theater in my area (actually, a consortium of three theaters) as a possible venue. Does anybody have a movie-specific e-mail address where we can contact them with that kind of info?

Achila wrote: Re Minimate Frodo -- Oh lord -- I love the girly eyes and lips on that thing....*falls down laughing hysterically* And the hair looks like the frosting on a TastyKake chocolate cupcake. (ceefour: Yes, definitely bring your Minimates along for our road trip to Pittsburgh. We can set them in the cupholders.)

Well, I still can't get the sign-up-for-e-mail thingy to work on the GSH website. :mad:

GAH! They are just really blowing it with this web-site! :mad:

Does anybody have a movie-specific e-mail address where we can contact them with that kind of info?

I'll try calling them again tomorrow. Maybe they could set up a e-mail box for us or something.

Blossom and Wendy and the rest of our UK 'family', I'm glad to hear that all your near-and-dear are safe and sound! Hang in. Expect to be depressed for a while. This sort of thing is such a violation of trust, and your faith that you are safe going about your daily life. I remember after 9/11 I cried every day for three months straight, and I didn't know anyone that it directly affected at the time. It just felt so ghastly and impossible. Find some way to employ yourself that feels useful to you, any outlet even a creative one will do. (Being a quilter, I made a quilt to express my feelings of patriotism and solidarity. It looks darned funny to me now, but it's represents a period in all our lives.) And above all know that many prayers are being said, and many a tear shed for your nation. :k :k

honey!

honeyelf-
I'll try calling them again tomorrow. Maybe they could set up a e-mail box for us or something.
I asked them yesterday about that since no one at that time could log into the website. They were loath to set up anything special for us, prefering for everyone to wait until the webpage was up and running again. So far, only one person was not able to log in. Everyone else seems to have been able to. ??? If anyone else out there has tried this afternoon to log in and not been able to, speak up now.

I entered both my email addresses at the website just now and it took them both. I used the link txtac supplied yesterday which I'm sure is the right one. My dial-up can never fully load the songs so I really haven't heard them. I just got my sound on my computer working again (took a move and rehooking it all up to figure out which cord was plugged in wrong) so I've finally!! watched the trailer with sound. I was quite pleased to hear the Stone Roses playing in the background. I doubt the movie would come to my remote location. Eternal Sunshine never did. I drove to Bay City, about an hour and a half drive, just to see it in the theater. There is a university 30 miles away if the college tour happens. One can only hope... :z:

Thanks for the welcome, Blossom. I have just read through about three days of posts on this thread. Great reading. I feel as if I'm on a merry-go-round lately because there are so many places I want to visit every evering. I don't know any of you in the UK (unless I know you by other names,) but am very glad to hear you are all OK. I wonder if the London blasts will be and isolated incident or if the rest of us are slated for trouble, too. I sure hope no other countries are targeted. :z:

Deenan, I and several others are in regular contact with honeyelf, so we're keeping up-to-date on GSH developments. It's difficult wanting so much to help, but having to just sit and wait. :rolleyes:

I don't recall who it was, but someone told me in a post about needing a certain number of posts to have an avatar because I had asked why I couldn't get one into my profile. Thanks....hadn't realized that. Could someone tell me what the difference is between "Guided" and Enhanced" modes when writing a post? Thanks.

If anyone else out there has tried this afternoon to log in and not been able to, speak up now.
I was finally able to enter two different addresses yesterday, but I have yet to receive anything at either one of them. I had that problem with the original site, as well: two completely different addresses appeared to be accepted, but nothing from Odd Lot ever came in at either one, for whatever reason.

Edited to add: There is a nice interview and some video clips (from just yesterday!) concerning Happy Feet available here (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1505386/07072005/story.jhtml) . :)

Yeux de bleu wrote-
... needing a certain number of posts to have an avatar
I just got mine today. It is 30 posts.

BunnieBugs wrote-
I was finally able to enter two different addresses yesterday, but I have yet to receive anything at either one of them. I had that problem with the original site, as well: two completely different addresses appeared to be accepted, but nothing from Odd Lot ever came in at either one, for whatever reason.
I do not believe that it is time for Odd Lot to contact everyone yet. Remember that they are a small company. They have a lot of work to do for the opening in NY, Chicago and Los Angeles, not to mention planning the big premier splash and party afterwards. It does not evan sound like they have the promo packets ready to send to us yet. Wait until September. I know that it is a long time to wait when we are all chomping at the bit, but Odd Lot is small. One step at a time.

I do not believe that it is time for Odd Lot to contact everyone yet. Remember that they are a small company. They have a lot of work to do for the opening in NY, Chicago and Los Angeles, not to mention planning the big premier splash and party afterwards. It does not evan sound like they have the promo packets ready to send to us yet. Wait until September. I know that it is a long time to wait when we are all chomping at the bit, but Odd Lot is small. One step at a time.
I guess my point is that I never even received the mass mailings that they put out at one point, so I can't help but be a bit skeptical as to whether I'll ever get anything from them at this website, either. Yes, it's early, and I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but I'd just feel better if they had some sort of automated response once an address has actually been accepted so that I could know that it's the Real Deal and not another dead end.

BunnieBugs-
... I never even received the mass mailings that they put out at one point, ... Yes, it's early, and I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but I'd just feel better if they had some sort of automated response once an address has actually been accepted
Don't feel bad. I have not recieved any mass mailings from them either. When I logged my e-mail address into this new website, in the white box where you type in your e-mail address, it came up with a "Thank You" in small red letters after I hit the "submit info" button. Did you notice anything like that? That could be their automated response that they recieved your e-mail address. ???

Yes, when I stopped getting the "error saving address" message, I got the thank you (on both websites). Guess I'll just cross my fingers and hope for the best.

I did (try to) email Odd Lot yesterday, so it will be interesting to see whether I get a response to that, or not.

Bunnie, thanks for the link to the interview and vid snippets.

Speaking of emperor penguins, have any of you seen March of the Penguins? It's fascinating. Emperor Penguins do indeed bond through their individual songs. After sitting on the egg, (well, keeping it atop their feet) for months, and then being the only parent present when the chick hatches, the father goes off for a much delayed meal, while the mom takes over. When he comes back, (a 70+ mile journey one way) he must find his chick again through voice alone; it's the only cue they use to identify each other. Anyway, if it comes to your town go see it! It's practically required research! ;)

honey!

(((((Londoners))))) - (((((Brit KD members)))) - thinking of you! And I'm SO glad all people we know in here are safe and OK!


But thank God life is not only the sad things, but also the joyful ones - A very happy belated birthday to Prim :)!


Bunnie, many thanks for the Happy Feet link! :k - Let's :z: I get the chance to see this film in original version. The mind boggles, thinking of a possible German dubbing (who might be the speaker? The guy who always does Ben Stiller :eek: ??!)

Great avatar, Txtac :D


Could someone tell me what the difference is between "Guided" and Enhanced" modes when writing a post? Thanks.

When writing with Guided Mode, you can click on the little icons above the message box and another window will pop up - you can write your text in it and it will be formatted automatically the way you chose. Enhanced Mode means, you click on the icons and the tag will appear without opening a new window. You can close the tag by clicking on Close Current Tag or in case of several used tags go on Close All Tags. - I hope this description was understandable to some extent... I'm not too good with such stuff :o


The more pictures of Elijah as Jonathan I get to see the more I'm looking forward to this movie. It looks really surreal and strange... and I so hope for Elijah that it will be a success. Well, probably no mainstream success, but a cineastic masterpiece with heart and soul. :)

(((((Londoners))))) - (((((Brit KD members)))) - thinking of you! And I'm SO glad all people we know in here are safe and OK!
Absolutely :k

The more pictures of Elijah as Jonathan I get to see the more I'm looking forward to this movie...
It took Txtac's avatar for me to realize why it is that I like that picture of Jonathan standing alone in the middle of the parking lot so much -- It's pure Jonathan! I don't recognize any of Elijah's other characters in it, and I think I needed the small picture that emphasizes his entire body stance to pick up on that. IMHO, that's something the "one expression" reviewers (and I'm guessing there will be some for EII :rolleyes: ) miss in Elijah's acting. In order to "get" the character, you have to look at all of him, not just his face, a la Little Lij's "I make my whole body sad" interview answer. Gee, just what you'd have to do with a real person :haha: . [And, yes, I realize that one statement in that paragraph has great potential for out-of-context use ;) , but I couldn't think of any other way to say it.]

Before I leave for work, I want to post a link to a news story on the earthlink start page that I can access only from home. It's tangentially on-topic... Regarding teaching the Holocaust in schools (mostly U.S. teachers, but some Europeans involved). We've talked here before about how the MTV program Elijah was part of showed how little some students know about it, and this article talks about efforts to help teachers improve their teaching on the subject. Even as someone who's read more about the Holocaust than your average high school student (I'm afraid :( ), it wasn't until after I'd read EII that I learned that Trachimbrod's fate wasn't unusual -- While reading the book, I had a hard time believing that a town could just disappear like that; certainly there'd be something left. But in reality that's exactly what happened to many towns.

Another EJW-role-related point in the earthlink-linked article is that the reason gas chambers were used in the concentration camps instead of more "efficient" means of killing such as shooting everyone, was to keep those doing the killing separated from it. The masterminds were afraid that if the soldiers had to kill so many people (especially women and children) face-to-face they wouldn't be able to continue. They hoped using the gas chambers would let them keep killing longer. The Gary Sinese character in The Witness is a wonderful representation of that dynamic (thanks in very large part to Sinese's nonverbal acting--he really deserved some recognition for that role). It's Elijah's completely silent character, of course, that forces the soldier to think about what he's really doing. -- That movie's about 15 minutes long; just right for a high school class, wouldn't you think? I noticed a couple of days ago that it's out-of-stock at yesasia.com (still listed, but as out-of-stock). I don't know if that means more people are buying it, or if it's sinking out of availability...

Anyway, here's the link, for anyone interested:

http://start.earthlink.net/article/nat?guid=20050707/42cdfa40_3ca6_1552620050708757873382


Bunnie, thanks for the pengiun link -- I do have to run to work now, but I can check out the story from there. :)

tgshaw wrote: IMHO, that's something the "one expression" reviewers (and I'm guessing there will be some for EII) miss in Elijah's acting. In order to "get" the character, you have to look at all of him, not just his face, a la Little Lij's "I make my whole body sad" interview answer. I think you're right about that, although some of the critics don't even seem to be looking closely at his face, IMHO! And this "whole body" thing, I think, is what enables him to disappear into his characters so completely; and as we've said before here, that's why some critics just assume that he's "not really acting," because he just seems so natural. But when you put Frodo next to Patrick and Casey and McPhee (to take just four roles) -- my goodness.

(Am going off to try the GSH site again, since I seem to be the only one having problems. :mad: )

No Pelagia i can tell you this,

i having big time troubel too!!!!! :mad: :(

SO glade you all UK are ok!!!!!!!!!!!! :k :k :k


WOOD

Well, I typed in my e-mail address over at GSH, clicked "Submit info," and got a little message in red -- Saving e-mail -- in the white box. That was 20 minutes ago. It still says "Saving e-mail." Even MY Internet connection isn't THAT slow.

tgshaw- in the earthlink-linked article is that the reason gas chambers were used in the concentration camps instead of more "efficient" means of killing such as shooting everyone, was to keep those doing the killing separated from it. The masterminds were afraid that if the soldiers had to kill so many people (especially women and children) face-to-face they wouldn't be able to continue. They hoped using the gas chambers would let them keep killing longer.
WARNING! They are trying to rewrite history again!
Yes they did have a very small problem with some of the German soldiers not wanting to kill women and children, BUT the main reason that they chose to use gas chambers was that IT WAS CHEAPER. They did the math on how much one bullet costs to the number (estimate) of how many people they had to shoot. The cost amount just in ammunition was staggering. They switched to gas because it was a cheaper way to get rid of a lot of people quickly.

tgshaw- IMHO, that's something the "one expression" reviewers (and I'm guessing there will be some for EII) miss in Elijah's acting.
I agree. After looking at a lot of the Johnathan screencaps, Elijah looks like he is not doing much acting. I am afraid that he might get blasted again for not being able to act, or worse "wooden acting." You really have to know Elijah, or look close to see the subtlety of his acting. "Eyebrow acting" indeed!

Thank you all, for admiring my new avatar. BunnieBugs made it for me. Thank you Bunnie. You do good work! :D

WARNING! They are trying to rewrite history again!
Just out of curiosity... Why would "they" want to do this (assuming "they" are the Jewish Foundation for the Righteous, which is supporting these workshops)? :confused: They wouldn't seem like a group that would try to skew history towards sympathy for the German soldiers. Or is there something else going on?

-- BTW, the story did talk about efficiency, not economy; the two aren't always the same.

Thanks TG for mentioning what a fine performance Gary Sinise gave in "The Witness".. :) I've been a BIG fan of his for many years. He's one of those actors that many A-list actors mention when they're asked who they admire (acting wise)...my hubby actually surprised me a few years ago by taking me to NYC to see Gary in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".....it wasn't very good but I was thrilled to see him in a live performance. If any of you are not familar with Gary Sinise I would highly reccommend you view his performances in "Of Mice and Men" and "A Midnight Clear".
I was so pleased to be given a copy of The Witness by Achila :k ...so nice to have my two favorite guys in the same story...My dream would be to have Lij do something new with Gary...WOW...(both of them do "bad guys" really well!) :D
I think back in an earlier post I welcomed our new members...but in case I didn't.... Welcome!!! so nice to see new faces in here ;)

and Happy Birthday Prim

TG said: I noticed a couple of days ago that [The Witness is] out-of-stock at yesasia.com (still listed, but as out-of-stock). I don't know if that means more people are buying it, or if it's sinking out of availability...

I'm kicking myself for all the times I almost bought this movie, but wanted to wait until I had enough items to get the free shipping, or didn't want to move to get my credit card, or...So I just went and ordered a video tape of Child in the Night so I won't ever have to regret not ordering that one, too.

Hmmm, should I go back and order Sin City just for the sake of being completist, and for the free-shipping? But then I ought to get Black and White too...

No! There's "completist" and there's "completely obsessed," and that's verging on the obsessive!

honey!

tgshaw- Why would "they" want to do this (rewrite history)
History is never a simple clean cut story. A lot of what you learn in college contradicts what you learned in grade school. Example: in grade school you learn that George Washington wore wooden teeth. In college, you learn that they were not made out of wood, but bone and carved hippo teeth to look like human teeth.
History is always "changed slightly" to suit the climate of the times. Today, the Germans are our allies. They are our friends and we need them. A lot of the current history will play down a lot of the brutality that happened during the war to suit the current climate that the Germans are our friends. We see a lot more about the Holocost today because a lot of the people who survived it are now starting to naturally die off. They do not want their story forgotten, or the facts to be glossed over. "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
Most of the men who trained me as a child (sunday school teachers, football & baseball coaches, Boy Scout leaders...)evan my father and uncle were all WWII veterans. I did not hear about the Holocost until I was in college. Facts are facts until you learn the truth. Is a fact(s) the story, or is the story the fact ? How many times have you heard the phrase "trust but verify?" Never believe anything that you read, or hear unless you already know it to be true, or can be verified by at least two other non-related sources (Neal Boortz).
"...the reason gas chambers were used in the concentration camps instead of more "efficient" means of killing such as shooting everyone, was to keep those doing the killing separated from it."
This is a partial fact. It does not state the main truth. It even states a fact that is NOT true. The entire story needs to be told for complete understanding, not just to state a fact that can be mistrued.
Fact: Some German soldiers started to have problems shooting women and children. Most did not.
Fact: Ammunition is expensive. It cost more to shoot people than it did to gas them.
Fact: The gas chambers were used because they were more efficient AND economical. Read expedient. They could kill more people faster and cheaper.
Fact: More methods were used to kill besides shooting and gassing.
Fact: More people than just the Jews were killed in concentration camps.

This thread is really getting morbid. I would rather talk about EII than 60 year old history.

Honeyelf wrote- should I go back and order Sin City just for the sake of being completist, and for the free-shipping? But then I ought to get Black and White too...
No! There's "completist" and there's "completely obsessed," and that's verging on the obsessive!
Buy Sin City and forget about Black and White (unless you just want to see the scene at the end of Elijah tongue kissing Brook Shields for 5 minutes.) Black and White is one of those films that even Elijah wants to forget about. Sin City is so much better IMHO.

((((U.K. Faculty Members))))

Achila, shall I bring my Minimate Frodos with us when we attend the LOTR Symphony? I have the one in the picture and Frodo with the Ring on. That one has some incredible eyebrow acting going on. ;)Sure, why not -- never can have enough hobbits!

Emperor Penguins do indeed bond through their individual songs. After sitting on the egg, (well, keeping it atop their feet) for months, and then being the only parent present when the chick hatches, the father goes off for a much delayed meal, while the mom takes over. When he comes back, (a 70+ mile journey one way) he must find his chick again through voice alone; it's the only cue they use to identify each other.

I did not know that. See, this is one of the things I've always loved about KD/the blue place/Imladris--it's so darn educational. :D

Being a penguin-lover anyway (my favorites are Rockhoppers) I must make time for a viewing of March of the Penguins for the sake of research ;) . Thanks so much for the info, Honey. Also, thanks once again, and CONGRATULATIONS, on your efforts on behalf of Hooligans paying off so handsomely. It's thrilling that Chicago will be one of the premiere sites, even if there isn't a chance that Elwood will show up here for it.

Hello to our new posters, and Happy Birthday to anyone I've missed in the past three weeks (I was away on vacation for two of them, and this week has been consumed by re-adjusting to RL :rolleyes: ).

To any Brit Facultites I haven't already *seen* at LJ, you are in my thoughts and prayers. I deeply admire the British resilience, fortitude, and sense of humor in the face of adversity that have enabled you to endure and thrive through the many waves of invasion and attempted annihilation in your long history. Pearl's LJ today has a number of great, funny quotes from London residents reacting to the bombings. It seems to be true that tea is the universal British reaction to all ills! :) :) :k

P.S. It will be interesting to read the reviews of Elijah's performance in EII by those misguided critics who thought he had one expression in LOTR. :p

Welcome back, Goldenberry! :k
I did not know that. See, this is one of the things I've always loved about KD/the blue place/Imladris--it's so darn educational. :D
May I second that? *I* did not know since a few moments ago that George Washington had bone and carved hippo teeth :p. You live and learn.

Being a penguin-lover anyway (my favorites are Rockhoppers) I must make time for a viewing of March of the Penguins for the sake of research
As perfectly fitting research attire I recommend this:

Love On The Rocks T-Shirt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/ontherockstee.jpg
This heavy duty, pre-shrunk, 100% cotton t-shirt is a real penguin delight. Depicting two lovingly pictured emperors in a flipper in flipper embrace warming things up on the Antarctic ice.

or maybe this
Penguin Party T-Shirt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/penguinworldtee.jpg
This multi-species, multi-task 100% heavy duty, pre-shrunk cotton t-shirt features King, Chinstrap and Rockhopper Penguins frolicking on and below the ice in this spectacular hand dyed party penguin shirt.

Other marvellous penguin related stuff at the already notorious www.penguin-place.com ;)


P.S. It will be interesting to read the reviews of Elijah's performance in EII by those misguided critics who thought he had one expression in LOTR. :p
I guess we will see several attempts at describing what they will see as *not even* ONE Expression. A half expression, a quarter one? The negation of facial expression whatsoever? :rolleyes:

honeyelf wrote: should I go back and order Sin City just for the sake of being completist, and for the free-shipping? I thought that they were first going to bring out a plain-vanilla Sin City DVD, and then later come out with a "special edition," containing the usual making-ofs. Better to wait for the latter, I think (there might be more of Elijah!).

BTW, this week's Entertainment Weekly has an article on King Kong. No mention of former hobbitses. And there's a photo of PJ that doesn't even look like him -- he's lost so much weight. And I miss the glasses!

(Am waiting to see the impact of the penguin and Holocaust discussions on the ads here. . . .)

Pelagia wrote- And there's a photo of PJ that doesn't even look like him -- he's lost so much weight. And I miss the glasses!
Did you catch the Toy Biz action figure of Peter Jackson dressed up as a hobbit AND wearing glasses? It is so halerious. I never saw a hobbit wearing glasses. He looks a lot slimmer as an action figure too. PJ- the wild Shire hobbit! Check it out:

http://www.toybiz.com/showassort.htm?id=81485&status=active

Thank you all, for admiring my new avatar. BunnieBugs made it for me. Thank you Bunnie. You do good work! :DThank you! I love making avatars -- I haven't changed mine here since I joined the board, but I'm thinking that it might be time.

I thought that they were first going to bring out a plain-vanilla Sin City DVD, and then later come out with a "special edition," containing the usual making-ofs. Better to wait for the latter, I think (there might be more of Elijah!).Yes, the first one will be very basic. From what I read on Amazon, it will have a behind-the-scenes featurette (and I'm wondering if it will be basically what was shown on television before the film was released), but no commentary, interviews, or Ten Minute Film School (or even Cooking School. ;) ). I'm going to rent the first one (just so I can see Kevin's ninja moves again), but I will buy the fancy one when it comes out. :cool:

Goldenberry--Hi!--And a "Me, too" on the rockhoppers! :cool:

I guess we will see several attempts at describing what they will see as *not even* ONE Expression. A half expression, a quarter one? The negation of facial expression whatsoever? :rolleyes:
Well... I've always said Elijah can act "complete nothingness" better than anyone else. "The negation of facial expression whatsoever" ain't easy--especially when you're about 8 years old :p :

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/0fec9af0.jpg

--I think I have some "Little Boy" caps on my hard drive at home that show the lack of facial expression better, but this is the best one I have available to link to from work.

The marvel is that he somehow manages to find different kinds of complete nothingness, which would seem to be an oxymoron--or even a paradox ;) .

http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/2bd05da0.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/16bcd2e0.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/31f204f0.jpg


And that's just from one movie... So here's one from the next installment:

http://home.earthlink.net/~screencaps/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cap8991-85.jpg

And Mikey in his "white zone" as the football flies past him Compare the hand positions to the Weathertop pic.

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/3c5d0980.jpg


Now carrying on the great tradition, with a brand-new version of nothingness :) :

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/16553fb0.jpg

We can only imagine what the future holds in store :p !

Hi Faculty! Just delurking with a 'nothingness' contribution!! At first glance, I'm sure some people would see this as more or less expressionless - but if you stare at it for a long time - as I have done, often :), you can see so much going on there that I find it hard to believe its someone who's only acting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/soulful.jpg

Shireling--Is that from the "Just a feeling" scene? Definitely lots going on inside that head... That's what Elijah said about Jonathan, too (something like "a world going on inside his head," IIRC), so I'm looking forward to seeing how he shows it to us. Jonathan may be externally still in that last pic I posted, but he's anything but calm, IMHO. No relaxation in that face at all. And the hand positioning is incredibly intriguing.

These are from "Just a feeling" -- The first is before Sam notices that Frodo has stopped, and Frodo's focus is completely internal. The second is during a half-blink after Sam has said something to him and he's just starting to "come out of it."

http://www.frodolivesin.us/RotK/809c04c0.jpg


http://www.frodolivesin.us/RotK/871c04e0.jpg

And just because the topic's come up and there are some new people who may enjoy it, here's a link to The One Expression (http://www.frodolivesin.us/oneexpression/) page.


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All right, I swear that a minute ago there was a post here from Prim... :confused: And I just told my brother the other day that I hadn't had any hallucinations now for a few years... :eek: :haha:

Thanks tg, Honey, Blossom, Whiteling, BunnieBugs, Shelbyshire and Ylla for the kind birthday wishes. I did indeed zoom into this thread to see if I wasn't entirely lost from cyber memory but exited abruptly when I lost my phone line. We've had flooding and storms that have disrupted life lately- it knocked me off KD but did give me an unscheduled holiday on my birthday since schools closed till the heavy rain warning was lifted. Yay! :) (The roads aren't that great here in the north of NZ so it doesn't take all that much to close roads...:rolleyes: )


Its nice to see familiar names still here... :) :k

I do pop in ocassionally (though usually to Rivendell) but often heavily disgiused as a"guest" since I have so little time at home to surf so I (small guilt pang) ocassionally take a peek here from work.

I'm very glad to read the Brit Facultiers are OK. My sympathies. For those of you who remeber my sister Viola who works in London- she is ok too. Not on the subway that morning. Phew. Hang in there Brits...the rest of the normal world is in sympathy with you.


And just in case another blast from the past comes in:
Happy Birthday Ainon!


love to all
Prim


ps if some readers thought I wrote earlier and then my post vanished...you are not hallucinating, it did indeed. It came out with an unusual array of attachments, probably the result of my dang mouse playing up so I zapped it and started again later... :). You are quite sane. :D

This notice just came in from Amazon on TheOneRing.Net website:

More Unseen LOTR Footage on Amazon.com?
7/08/05, 11:49 am EST - Xoanon
Amazon.com, in celebration of their 10th anniversary,
will have a celebration at their headquarters.
Among the musicians, authors and other events will be
a special DVD presentation of never before seen footage
from a number of movies, including LOTR!

July 7th to July 16th for more info, go to http://www.amazon.com

Does anyone live close to the Amazon Headquarters? Can you stop by and check out the "unseen footage of LOTR" come back and give us a report? :z:
A pirated copy of this "special DVD" would be nice too, if you can get one... ;)

Shireling and Tg, great examples of Elijah acting "nothingness" :)!

I love the moments of nothingness in Elijah's characters. Elijah's Zen-like acting provides IMHO an indicator of his trust in the audience. He trusts in the viewers ability to connect with the character and to decipher the subtle hints he gives on their own. When we replace "mind" with "face" (and "body") in the following quote, we'll get the picture - Elijah as Zen Frodo channel ;) :
The perfect man uses his mind as a mirror.
It grasps nothing. It regrets nothing.
It receives but does not keep.
- Chuang Tzu

And speaking of "nothing", I found this quote fitting as well:
Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery (1900 - 1944)


Last but not least -

Happy birthday, Ainon!! :k

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodo_anime.jpg

Have a great day!


Hi, Prim!! Good to see you! :)

ETA: Hi, Pelagia! It's great that you would refer to the Mirror of Galadriel scene - that was my immidiate thought when I found the Zen quote :)!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, AINON! The Lad is a bit damp here, but still quite fetching:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/flippermoody.jpg

And a belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO PRIM! . Sorry that I overlooked it, so here’s a melancholy offering:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/goodsonbeautiful.jpg

whiteling, tgshaw, and shireling: I love the discussion of “the negation of facial expression”! shireling wrote (in connection with her lovely picture): At first glance, I'm sure some people would see this as more or less expressionless - but if you stare at it for a long time - as I have done, often , you can see so much going on there that I find it hard to believe its someone who's only acting. I think that one of the best examples of “expressive nothingness,” among those posted, is the “Mirror of Galadriel” still that tg posted. At first glance, Frodo seems to have no expression whatsoever. By comparison, it’s easy to see that Weathertop-Frodo and Dead-Marshes-Frodo are stricken, and that Mikey Carver is totally zoned out. But Mirror-Frodo seems completely blank – until you look more closely at Those Eyes (which is not hard to do, of course, although I tend to be distracted by The Jaw and The Mouth ;) ).

In the picture of Jonathan, you can’t really see the eyes, because of the thick, distorting glasses. Here, I think the character is conveyed entirely by the body language: the turn of the head, the stiffness of the posture, the rather unnatural position of the hands.

And in “The Witness” still, it’s all in the curl of the mouth, I think. That reminds me of a wonderful moment in Avalon, when Michael finds out that his father’s store is on fire. He and his cousin Teddy are sitting there, and Elijah just turns his head to the side, and does that thing with his mouth: he doesn’t really purse it, but he sort of compresses his lips; and you KNOW he’s thinking (as another Elijah character put it) “Ho-ly crap.”

whiteling: LOVE the "anime Frodo"!

More of nothing :cool: :

txtac gave me some URL's for Kevin caps as nothingness examples. Hopefully we can do better after the DVD comes out, but these had to be "laundered" through a couple of programs just to get them to open so they'd be visible and postable ("unknown file type," even to the Windows online file-type checker).

As txtac said in the posting request, maybe not complete nothingness because Keven has that "Mona Lisa smile" in the first one. (Total wash, BTW, on finding any caps of him smiling while he's being dismembered, but it's only a little over a month now til the DVD comes out ;) .) The second one is nothingness in a purely comic-book-style Kevin manner:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/19440f00.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/19540f00.jpg


And on another topic ;) , here's a little something to say Happy Birthday, Ainon!

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/193cc880.jpg


-----Prim, glad you weren't a figment of my delusion :p . Say "Hi" to Viola, and tell her how glad we are that she's okay. :k

----Whiteling, I love the anime Frodo, too, as well as the quotes you put with him. Thanks to having a dial-up connection ;) I had a look at him without the lower part of his face showing, and the eyes are even more amazingly expressive then.

How's this for an example of Kevin's "nothingness", TG?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/Bitmap-60.jpg

It came from here (http://undone.sean-astin.net/), btw, one of the best sites for Elijah screencaps on the net.

Happy Birthday, Ainon!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/LOTR%20photos%20-%20misc/frodo35.jpg

Shireling--Is that from the "Just a feeling" scene? Definitely lots going on inside that head...

I don't think it is from that scene TG, though I'll need to check it out to be certain. This pic has been around since the release of TTT so I'd always assumed it was from that, though I couldn't pinpoint which scene - its possible it may even be from a cut scene. Its no good - I'm just going to have to watch TTT all the way through to answer your question - and if it doesn't show up I'll have to watch ROTK. Such a trial - but its got to be done ;) :D


Happy Birthday to AINON :)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AINON!!

AND A BELATED BIRTHDAY PRIM

have had my head full with birthdays preperation my self!

my youngerst daughter has her 5 birthday today!!!

Like i sade some posts back ,she almost grow up with Frodo and especelly Elijah!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Popping by to say … HAPPY BIRTHDAY AINON!

I hope you’ve been lurking and enjoying the beautiful birthday pictures. Now I know you love angst, but I thought I’d give you some SMILEY FRODO AND ELIJAH (http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Ainon.gif) for a change. Have a great day! :k

Tg. I really love what you have done with the picture you posted for Ainon's birthday. Is that from the, 'Do they, Gandalf?' turn?

Great ‘Nothingness’ pics and discussion everyone. It always amazes me how Elijah does this. In interviews etc. his face is naturally very expressive, yet he is so adept at portraying subtle, nuanced emotion - or lack of it in Kevin's case - when in character. The sign of a good actor, methinks. :)

For me, one of the most moving scenes from ROTK is Frodo and Bilbo in the cart. Of course this is far removed from 'nothingness.' Although Frodo barely moves a facial muscle here, the internal emotion conveyed through those eyes is heartbreaking. Wow!

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Cart3.jpg

I cannot wait to see his Jonathan.

Pelagia - I love 'Avalon.' :)

Nice to see you, Prim. It's good to know that Viola is OK in London. :)

Waves to Shireling. :)

ETA Waves to Wood, too. I hope your little one is having a fun day. :k

Just peeping in to wish the fantastic and wonderful Ainon a happy birthday! :) :k

http://members.chello.be/ws35756/Tolkien/chars/Frodo/Frodo_AlanLee.jpg


(Alan Lee drawing)

moondancer!!!!! So Good To See You Again!!!!


Wood

Happy Birthday, Ainon! :k :k Miss you!
In honor of your birthday, we're running a special two-for-one deal! ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/large20versin.gif

I think Elijah has reached new levels of "nothingness" with Kevin. Usually, even when the rest of his face appears to be still, there's alot going on in his eyes. But with Kevin his eyes were still, almost dead; any spark of emotiveness had been snuffed out, and that was what was so creepy for me. Didn't Elijah say that when he was acting Kevin, Frank Miller kept telling him "more still"?

And as for the rest of Elijah's face giving the appearance of stillness in other roles, you have to learn to watch his forehead, his jaw and his mouth for subtle shifts that indicate inward thoughts.

In interviews etc. his face is naturally very expressive...

Good point, Blossom. I think the first thing I saw him in where he wasn't acting, was that silly Glick 'interview'. It was amazing to see, because he had facial similarities to Frodo, but that was all! I remember feeling quite astonished, and having this odd feeling that I was watching someone I'd never seen before. Well, I guess I sort of was.

Goldenberry and Moondancer! Lovely to see you both!

honey!

PSA: Who Is Augustine? (http://www.whoisaugustine.com/who_are_you.htm) has been updated. :)

It's July, and there's no trailer out for Everything is Illuminated yet. (And yet how many times were we forced to sit through trailers for Kicking and Screaming?) I suppose this movie will be released only to little theaters like the Landmark chain. And that all my fond wishes for lovely new magazine covers, and articles by the dozen will not be coming true? :(

Thanks for pointing out the updates to the website, Bunnie! :k I suppose that's a Jonathan-Eye-View we get out the window of the car. :cool:

honey!

Everything is Illuminated is being released by Warner Bros.
You can't get a bigger distributer than that. :D Check it out:

http://wip.warnerbros.com/index.html?site=everythingisilluminated

This site has some video clips of Elijah's earlier movies. Nothing recent, but if you like his early movies, you can see a clip before you buy the DVD.

http://movies.channel.aol.com/feature/howtheybegan/wood

This site has a library of film trailers. You can find a lot of Elijah's later films here. No trailer for EII, yet. I am still looking, but I do not think that it is out yet.
http://movies.aol.com/trailers/archive.adp

Txtac - *that's* the appropriate distribution of EII!! :cool:
And also thanks for the moviefone links. It's only too true:
Considering his early-'90s success as Child Actor, it would be no surprise if Elijah Wood were now in rehab, jail or reality TV.
Well done, Debbie! ;)


Bunnie, thanks for letting us know about the update of the (Augustine) EII site. (Am I the only one who thinks the melancholic music incredibly moving?) :k - And looking at the two pics you posted (Kevin and Frodo) I thought that there's hardly a greater difference imaginable! The Kevin one displays the complete lack of soul, the Frodo one exudes soulfullness no end. He never ceases to amaze me!


Moondancer! :) :k There you are! How wonderful to "see" you - LOVE that Alan Lee Frodo.


And Honey - thanks for another great mirror picture! :k

Hi, Moondancer! So good to see you :cool: !

Tg. I really love what you have done with the picture you posted for Ainon's birthday. Is that from the, 'Do they, Gandalf?' turn?
Yes--I'ts another use of the "chrome" effect in Paint Shop. Depending on what you do with the settings, I'm finding you can do a lot of things with that effect.

Added after writing the rest of the post: The following isn't off-topic, but it's kind of "off-conversation." It's all Blossom's fault ;) :p for posting that picture of Frodo and Bilbo.

For me, one of the most moving scenes from ROTK is Frodo and Bilbo in the cart. Of course this is far removed from 'nothingness.' Although Frodo barely moves a facial muscle here, the internal emotion conveyed through those eyes is heartbreaking. Wow!
I love that scene--every frame is like a separate work of art. It's also another example of Elijah's double-layered acting. It's not as blatant as Frodo's "used car salesman" act at the Forbidden Pool, but still shows that Frodo's not as good an actor as Elijah is ;) :

http://www.frodolivesin.us/RotK/56c204f0.jpg

The external isn't nearly as strong as the internal, but he's trying--for Bilbo's sake, I suppose. The ability to pull it off, acting-wise, is pretty amazing, IMHO.

While scrolling through the scene (http://www.frodolivesin.us/RotK/id31.htm) just now looking for that particular pic, I paid more attention to Bilbo than I normally do (not my usual focus for some reason :confused: ;) ), and I think he knows more than he's letting on to, which would help erase my one quibble with that scene. The lines are straight out of the book, but immediately afterward book-Bilbo says, "Of course, how silly of me, that's what the whole business was about..." [probably not exact quote]. He's getting forgetful, but not quite that senile, and it bothered me that in the movie he seemed to be portrayed as so completely out of it. But looking at his face in the screencaps, I'm guessing that he does remember what's happened, at pretty much the same moment he does in the book, but keeps silent for Frodo's sake. In the book, there's a group of people in the room, not just the two of them alone, which could make a difference in what Bilbo decides to say out loud. He's a master of "fearing to say too much," after all. That's just my own interpretation; I have no idea whether anyone, including Sir Ian H., intended it, but it works for me. :)

I'm very glad the writers put those lines into the movie (although it took the acting to make them work, IMHO), because they do tell the audience very clearly what kind of a hold the Ring has on someone even after it's gone, giving some more understanding of Frodo's decision to leave Middle-earth. IIRC, reaction in the theater when Bilbo asked about the Ring indicated it was a bucket of cold water in the face for the audience almost as much as it was for Frodo. And Frodo's reaction is (of course :cool: ) perfection.

In the book, Bilbo and Frodo are very clearly able to "read between each other's lines," and I love seeing bits of that in the movies. I don't know that anyone could have done it better than those two actors. I wonder sometimes how much Sir Ian's history of portraying Frodo himself added to his ability to interact so well with the character.

Hey Tgshaw, Wood, Whiteling, Honeyelf and all the rest of the esteemed Faculty:
thanks for the greetings!

I'm still amazed to find all the warm-hearted people in this place! :k You guys are amazing.


*goes back into lurking mode* http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-085.gif

PSA: Who Is Augustine? (http://www.whoisaugustine.com/who_are_you.htm) has been updated. :)On the Heritage Touring Page there is an e-amil address for
ALEX
Do you suppose HE might respond?

On the Heritage Touring Page there is an e-amil address for
ALEX Do you suppose HE might respond?

That's such a real-life Jonathan Safran Foer thing to do! He very well might respond! Although I'm still waiting for "Oskar Schell" to write me back, the little tease!

I just found out that my son's newish girlfriend loves The Faculty! Dang!She's hard not to like! ;)

honey!

ETA: There's yet another new addition to WhereIsAugustine.com. Go to the room with all the boxes, and click on the picture hanging on the wall! I haven't got it to play all the way through yet :(

ETAA: Jo, of the 'other' petition just called this to my attention:
Hooligans Release annouced in Variety (http://blogs.indiewire.com/mattdentler/archives/004958.html)

The really interesting part is this: Pritzger said Odd Lot is looking to fill a void in indie distribution. "When analyzing the marketing and release plans of several companies interested in 'Green Street Hooligans,' we realized they were all focused on the traditional arthouse platform release," she said. "but we knew with certainty that our film appeals to a broader audience and needed appropriate commercial marketing."

especially in light of this: Former Sony marketing topper Paula Silver's Beyond the Box shingle, will consult on the release. Silver oversaw the marketing for "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," among other pics.

GS Hooligans is one of those sorts of films that I've been seeing as 'arthouse' fodder all along. So this explains why no distribution deal has been forthcoming! My Big Fat Greek Wedding made the leap form arthouse to cineplex, and I think Hooligans had the potential to do it too! It sounds like to me a bit of hubris on Lexi's part has been getting in the way of getting this film out to American audiences! :confused: Most fascinating!

honey!

ETAYA(yet again) Look what I found in that Matt Dentler guy's blog! :D http://blogs.indiewire.com/mattdentler/archives/003996.html (http://)
It seems American fans of Elijah Wood won't sleep until they get their favorite Hobbit in theaters across the country. His new film, Hooligans, is still without a U.S. distributor despite positive reviews and winning awards at festivals including SXSW, where it premiered this past March. The film does have distribution in the U.K., though, where it is due to open in August.

So... the dedicated American fans have taken to creating an online petition. The goal, obviously, is to get the attention of possible U.S. companies to open the film as wide as possible.
The link he provides is to our petition! WhOO! :D :D :D