From tgshaw: The quote below is a version of the introduction Sheryl wrote for the Faculty Lounge thread when it first moved to KD. It's been edited to update it a bit, and to remove words such as "warn" and "excruciating" (as in "Be warned: the Faculty analyzes... in excruciating detail") because they make it sound like, well, a bad thing.



Hi there, and Welcome to the Faculty Lounge! Take a seat on a couch and check out an Elijah Wood movie. The Faculty analyzes Elijah Wood's performances, movies, and characters in detail. In the process we have been known to discuss everything from biology to whether PJ intends to evoke medieval paintings in his shots of Frodo.

An on-going debate in the Faculty is whether actors can make use of microexpressions, which are tiny changes in expression that pass by so fast people can't really see them, but that influence people's responses. The Faculty has been known to go through sections of EW's performances frame-by-frame in this debate, and then talk about what emotions he's trying to convey, why the character would feel that way, etc.

Since this thread was originally the Elijah Wood: Non-Swoon thread back at Imladris, I would like to ask that swoons here be kept to a minimum. Hobmom has a swoon thread where she puts up monthly wallpaper and does all manner of niftiness.

Basically, posters to this thread treat EW and each other with respect, and tolerate huge long posts on minutia and pure speculation- but don't require them.




Faculty research has also been responsible for a veritable explosion (one of my boss's favorite phrases ) of specialized areas of elwoodian study including Nat angst, camera angels, jaw setting, jawline acting, nostril acting, eyebrow acting, skin-fold analysis, [that muscle whose name I can never remember] analysis, "How does he do that?" moments, cloak action, Secret Sam Smiles, The One Expression, the Golden Ratio facial feature analysis, evaluation of Ed Burns' walking skills, micro-expression theory vs. repertoire theory of Elijah Wood acting, capping vs. the Gap, Try 17 vs. All I Want, Todd vs. Boy George, and whether it's possible to watch TAMTSNBN without permanent neural damage.

All that, and still no grant funding!

So find a seat, pop in a movie, and fill a cup at the water cooler (just one cup, though--Casey might still be hiding in the closet with that broom and we don't want him to get suspicious).

There's plenty of coffee, though!

Yay! This time I caught the change as it was in progress!

Wow, a new home already? Thanks, Achila :k!
Oh I see, some people are having trouble with keeping up with us....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Elijah_notsofast.jpg

;)

THANK YOU ACHILA FOR MAKING

A NEW HOME FOR US!!!! :k :k :k :k

WOOD

Thanks for starting the new thread Achila, an event we traditionally greet with gratuitous pic-spamming!

Here's one that been a favorite of mine lately! :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/30.jpg

Look at that face! You'd think the lad had never had an expression on it in all his days! But he's got one of the most intelligently emotive faces I've ever known and loved! ;) I watched the RoTK "easter egg" again last night and some of his expressions of amusement just cracked me up!

honey!

BEAUTIFUL PICTURE HONEY ELF!!!!!!

THANKS!!! :k :k :k


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/sunshine-la-021.jpg

WOOD

Everytime we move to a new thread, I get nervous that I'll be lost and left behind. :rolleyes: So silly. Here's my gift to the new thread:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/photoshoot-8-004.jpg

Here's our beloved Casey, courtesy of tg's magic!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/0c1b6670.jpg

Thanks for the new home, Achila!

Since I am useless with this machine, maybe someone could post one of my two favorite photos. The one from ORC with his eyes downcast or the Mona Lisa smile one with Liv Tyler. (I'm off to work, but maybe they'll be here when I get back at midnight? :z: )

C4

P.S. :k to wood, who's sad.

Thanks Achila!

Lovely pics, Whiteling, Honey, Wood (waves) Bunnie, Achila. :)

Even The One Lad himself appears to be inviting us all to 'COME ON IN!'

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/ew001.jpg

It worked for me! :)

(Hey, I made a couple of posts to the Faculty Lounge recently and my computer didn't blow up and my RL didn't come crashing down almost immediately afterward like it did the last time I tried to join the discussion here! I'm on a roll! I think I'll try another post. (Feels daring!))

Faculty Lounge x8 already? Wow, the discussion moves fast around here! I despair of ever being able to keep up.

Saile, thanks for the info about TRL last week. My program guide was saying it was an hour long show in one place and 90 minutes in another. Anyway, thanks to you I got to see a certain adorable little Star Wars geek. :)

I would like to take a moment to thank Pelagia, Whiteling, Alyon, Ceefour, tgshaw, flourish, Shelbyshire, honeyelf, Moondancer, Achila, zkgrumpy and anyone I may have inadvertently overlooked for the warm welcome you extended to me last December. (I hope all of you are still here.) You were all so cordial in your greetings and all you got back from me was... silence. I felt so bad about that. Sorry. Hopefully I can stick around this time.

SandCastles

P.S. -- Such gorgeous pictures of the Intense Blue Gaze are being posted on this new thread. Wonderful. :)

Here's something fun for our new thread:

You're famous, Honey! (http://www.wizardnews.com/story.20050517.html) :D :D :D

You're famous, Honey! :D :D :D

*whimper* I hope that's as famous as I ever get! :z:

That and $3.50 will get me a decaf latte, I'm sure!

My humble contribution to the grand opening of the new thread. This is an oldie but has always been one of my favorites. And, look, it comes complete with the tan jacket! :rolleyes: I imagine it was new back then!! :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/OldFavorite.jpg

and, another lucky dog! ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/ex1.jpg

Way to go, Honey!!! :D ;) :)

MORNING ALL!!!!

C4,was it this one you were looking for?????

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/1lotr8.jpg


i forgott,welcome back,sandcastle!!!!!!!! :k :k :k


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Thank you, wood. That's the one!

Welcome back, SandCastles.

C4

Welcome to SandCastles... :k

(Because I've been only a lurker as late I've missed in welcoming!)

(((WOOD))) you've posted one of my favorite pics :D

So what pic shall I pick as my welcome to the new thread?

As I have a liking for any photo from this film I will pick this as my welcome to the new thread:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/ylla/alliwant10.jpg


Thanks to Achila for starting the new thread..and congrats to Honey for creating a petition that got a mention :D ...fingers and toes crossed that it gets some action :z:

To all of you that have joined while I've been only lurking...welcome....I hope you enjoy this room as much as I have..I hope to be hanging out here more as the summer starts :cool:

OOOOH! Ylla, that's a nice one that I hadn't noticed before. Just somethin' about the way that ochre color behind him sets off his eyes! WOW! Thank you!

honey!

Since I am useless with this machine, maybe someone could post one of my two favorite photos. The one from ORC with his eyes downcast or the Mona Lisa smile one with Liv Tyler.

Ceefour, Wood was so kind to provide the Lij and Liv one, maybe the other is...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/AtSundance_reading.jpg

this... ? I think it was taken at Sundance, but if it is not the one you meant it can't hurt either. :)


Wood - feeling better today, dear? *hugs*

Honey, would you announce when you intend to sign the first autographs, please :D I want one!!

Welcome back, SandCastles! :) Post away!

A shifty looking character sidles into the thread incognito.....

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00178/Elijah_Wood_p__Sund_178488m.jpg

Thanks for opening the new thread for me to (mostly) lurk in. :)

Thank you for christening the new thread with all those gorgeous piccies, ladies :) Sorry I can't send a contribution just yet - after months of battling I am now computerless at home :eek: I feel like I've lost a limb :(

Someone was saying on the old thread (sorry, can't remember who) that they would like to see Jonathan Ross interview Elijah. This has actually already happened - not on a chat show, but at the FOTR premiere afterparty for Film Night. Lij did very well and JR seemed to like him :)

{{{Wood}}} I understand your troubles completely. You are among friends here :)

Ah, yes, whiteling. that would be it. Thank you. What a lovely way to start the morning (or afternoon, or evening). You are correct; it was from Sundance, not ORC.

Glad your're back, ylla!

C4

Achila, thanks for opening the new thread again! (Did I mention that last month I changed all the links to the Faculty Lounge on my website into links to the Community Cafe? Redoing them all each time a new thread starts is too hard to keep up with ;) :cool: !)

this... ? I think it was taken at Sundance. :)
It's always nice to get a reminder that, whatever happens with the rest of Elwood's hair attempts (facial and otherwise), he grows very nice sideburns. :cool: And this picture shows them off so well. :)

BTW, did you notice that's one of the very few Elijah-as-himself pics that have been posted here so far where he's wearing neither the CTJ or a striped shirt? If you give double credit to ones where he's wearing both the CTJ and a striped shirt, the statistics become even more significant. :p But is that because of his dressing habits or the preferences of Faculty members? Or both? ;)

Such wonderful decorations here already it's hard to know what to add! Here are a couple of pics of Casey with Irritating Intrusive Objects removed from in front of his face. They show three things: I'm not an artist, I'm spending way too much time playing with Paint Shop (these pics are the tip of the iceberg), and it's really hard to make Elijah look bad no matter how you screw up :p (although I do have one I saved because it came out really :D ; will have to watch for an opportunity to post that one):

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/Previous movies/03-12-200517-0305-2.jpg

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/Previous movies/03-12-200517-0314-crop-B.jpg

Welcome back, SandCastles! :)

Good to see you, shireling -- :( about the computer lack. Hope it's something that can be remedied--but please drop in when you can in the meantime.

ylla: I shouldn't have to ask, but that's Jones, isn't it?



ETA: Oh, heck, now that I've mentioned it, I can't resist. Here's Elijah Wood as Doonesbury :D :

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/Previous movies/03-12-200517-0327cropedgedoonsbury.jpg

I'm having computer problems, so I hope this works. Just glad I found the thread this time.

Has anyone heard anything about when a trailer for EII will be available?

I would just like to join in the picspamming (these recent ones have been great, one better than the other!!):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Eandme/Chanelgap.jpg

Hi Ereshkigal, glad you're back with us! I'm gonna go over to the old thread and post the link for this one, in case anyone's having trouble finding us. Oops -- scratch that -- it's already locked. Oh well!

Hi all!!!

whanted to say thanks for the kids words!!!

whiteling,shireling,eandme!!!

and everybody else i have forgotten!!!!!

Ifeeling a bit better today!!!

guess ihave to learn to control my self a bit better!!

but it is so easy to "talk" to you all and i feeling so much better afterwards!!!!
Iknow i am with real friends!!

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

I'm spending way too much time playing with Paint Shop (these pics are the tip of the iceberg),

No, you don't!!! I'd love to see this iceberg! Your Paint Shop Caseys are wonderful. :)

...and it's really hard to make Elijah look bad no matter how you screw up :p (although I do have one I saved because it came out really :D ; will have to watch for an opportunity to post that one):
ETA: Oh, heck, now that I've mentioned it, I can't resist. Here's Elijah Wood as Doonesbury :D

:lol: Tg, what are you doing? "Doonesbury" didn't ring a bell for me, however, a little research filled this embarrassing European gap in education. How did you do this? Does Paint Shop provide a custom-built "Doonesbury" filter :confused: :D ?


Hi to Ereshkigal and Eandme! Glad you found the new thread. :)

New thread!! Thanks, Achila!! Always a nice excuse to bring out the pretties!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/alyonir/adidasanother.bmp

Tg, what are you doing? "Doonesbury" didn't ring a bell for me, however, a little research filled this embarrassing European gap in education. How did you do this? Does Paint Shop provide a custom-built "Doonesbury" filter :confused: :D ?
I'm experimenting! :D Decided to see what some of the "distortion effects" would do, and "Casey Connor as drawn by Gary Trudeau" came from the "pinch" effect. :p I'd already done a "colored edge" effect in white on the picture, which made the drawing-like edges, and the "pinch" did the rest.

Believe it or not, it's made from one of those beautiful pics of Casey looking out the window holding his camera. Which I can't post right now :rolleyes: because I just discovered that cutandpastescripts has evidently "improved" the script that makes my guestbook page and in the process took away the easter egg I had planted that let me access the site pages that aren't publicly posted. :rolleyes: I can access the pics from my home computer, but not from work. I'll have to give myself another backdoor, I guess. (I just discovered the change this minute--they should tell people when they do things like that! :haha: )

Yes TG that indeed is Jones :D

(((Wood)))...I hope you're feeling better...I was in a bit of a funk myself yesterday...better today

I have an idea to pick up your spirits
Pop SNL dvd in and you will feel much better...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/ylla/69.jpg



:D :D :D

thanks for the tip ylla!!!!!! :k :k :k

i will try that!!!!!

i feeling better to day thanks for asking!!!! :k :k


WOOD

I was poking about on the web this morning, and somewhere I saw a reference to Keir Dullea, he of 2001: A Space Odyssey fame. I'm not sure why, but his face has stuck with me ever since I saw the film in 1969 on a 5th grade field trip. (My teacher was a bit odd, and it was the late '60's. :rolleyes: ) The name has stuck with me ever since the lesser 2010, because by then I'd learnt to recognize good acting when I saw it, and he is another of those actors who can say a lot without saying much.
I've long wondered why we never saw more of him in the movies, and so I popped over to IMDb for a peek. (I promise I shall go over there again and search on "Elijah Wood" twice to make up for my wandering! :D) He's done a few movies (our Lad, for all his 24 years, had done a lot more, though) and several television appearances.

There was a bit of discussion amongst IMDb users, one asking "what happened?" that Mr. Dullea hadn't been in more films, which prompted another poster to answer, in part:
Perhaps Mr. Dullea just had too beautiful a face to be considered for many parts. He certainly has the acting chops.
Here's a couple of pics, one probably his most famous, and the other of him older:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/keir2001.bmp
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/olderkeir.bmp

He doesn't look entirely unlike The One Lad. But somehow I don't think
too beautiful a face to be considered for many parts
will be Elijah's fate, despite the fact that he is very beautiful. For one thing, Elijah is also has charisma by the bucketload, and he's very charming in interviews and such. And I think it's just his time, or soon will be. I think you said, Achila, in the last thread, that men and women seem to respond to him favorably, and I agree. And too, his pursuit of versatility in roles can't but help.

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TG, loved the "Doonesbury" Elijah! :lol:

Whiteling, you said: Honey, would you announce when you intend to sign the first autographs, please I want one!! *snerk* :D
BTW, I LOVE that picture you posted! If I was the photographer who took that, I could die happy!

honey!

There is an interview with Liev Schreiber available here (http://www.iffkv.cz/download/daily/2004/070705mff.pdf), in .pdf format. The pertinent (to this thread) bit is this:

Q: How did you choose Elijah Wood for the lead role?

Liev: I think Elijah is an actor that has a tremendous amount of brain, certainly more than he's been able to demostrate in the roles that he's been given. And I'd never seen eyes like Elijah's before. If you're looking for a character who is a subjective character in the sense that the world of the movie is percieved through them, there is almost no one who can do it better. His eyes are so full and huge and open and constantly taking everything in.

:)

Also, the petition is up to 500 signatures. :cool: I actually emailed Harry Knowles over at AICN to ask if he could mention the petition, because A) I couldn't remember if anyone had done that, yet, and B) I figured that even if someone had, another nudge couldn't hurt. ;)

Bunnie, I'm positively swoooning for that quote from Liev! May Liev Schreiber be to Elijah as Tim Burton is to Johnny Depp! I have high hopes for EII the film!

Liev: I think Elijah is an actor that has a tremendous amount of brain, That cracks me up -- the translation's a bit off here, I think! As one of my friends said, no wonder Elijah has such a big head! :lol:

certainly more than he's been able to demostrate in the roles that he's been given. And I'd never seen eyes like Elijah's before. If you're looking for a character who is a subjective character in the sense that the world of the movie is percieved through them, there is almost no one who can do it better. His eyes are so full and huge and open and constantly taking everything in. Not so sure about the "more than he's been able to demonstrate" crack, but perhaps we can chalk that up to the translation as well. And ah...Liev is rhapsodizing about Elijah's eyes....makes you just get all warm and fuzzy, don't it? ;)

Eandme!!thank you so much!!! :k :(

have been trying to send a messege but it looks like your box is full!!!



WOOD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/a4a4838c.jpg



Thanks achila for starting the new thread. Love the picspam.

Way to go honey!!!!!! Here's crossing our fingers. :k


---tg---- love the photoshop experimentation!!!!!! It's an incredibly complex program from what I've seen. Practice on us any time.


(((wood))) you always bring such joy, hope your spirits are rising.


And bunnie, thanks for the quote and link.



May Liev Schreiber be to Elijah as Tim Burton is to Johnny Depp! I have high hopes for EII the film!
It would be great if Liev Schreiber continued to take an interest in Elijah. Here's hoping as the premiere draws closer we get in depth coverage and interviews. A win for Liev at the Tony's in June might add to the buzz.

cheers!


saile

That cracks me up -- the translation's a bit off here, I think! As one of my friends said, no wonder Elijah has such a big head! :lol:
Or Liev has been reading too much A.A. Milne, and is contrasting Elijah to "actors of very little brain." :D

Not so sure about the "more than he's been able to demonstrate" crack, but perhaps we can chalk that up to the translation as well.
I'm hoping that what it means is that he feels Elijah was able to use his "tremendous amount of brain" in ways he hadn't before in EII--I hope that'll be true of every movie he makes. If Liev is referring specifically to Elijah's intelligence and not his entire acting package, I could see how EII might use it in ways he hasn't before.

If you're looking for a character who is a subjective character in the sense that the world of the movie is percieved through them, there is almost no one who can do it better.
Hmph... What's with that "almost"? ;) :mad: :confused: If you take that word out, this is exactly what hooked me into Elijah's acting in Huck Finn and what made me happy that he was playing Frodo. It's also a particularly hopeful statement about EII, IMHO, because in the book we really don't get to know Jonathan as a person very well and I'm hoping the movie remedies that. That's something Elijah could do, of course, without adding a single line of dialogue or bit of action, and his best movies seem to be with directors who understand that about him. :z:

I was also glad to see the comment about Elijah's eyes taking everything in. I'm still an adherent to one of the earliest Faculty-generated theories regarding elwoodian acting style: that it's his observation and understanding of other people that allows him to flawlessly portray emotions he's never personally had.

And that Liev said all of this in response to the question of why he chose Elijah for the role makes it even better. :cool:

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Honey, in regard to Keir Dullea's brilliantly understated acting, I have only one thing to say: "Open the pod bay doors, please, Hal." [And, without saying a word, the entire ending sequence. :cool: :cool: ]

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from Saile:
---tg---- love the photoshop experimentation!!!!!! It's an incredibly complex program from what I've seen. Practice on us any time.
It's Paint Shop--probably not as complex as Photoshop, although I'm still learning more things that are possible with it. But, don't worry, it doesn't do photomanips :p . It just edits the image that's there. Believe it or not, my main reason for having it doesn't involve screencaps :p . But Elijah's so nice to practice on--must be that interesting face :) .

And, Saile, I have to ask where that picture is from. :confused:

And, Saile, I have to ask where that picture is from. :confused:I hope Saile doesn't mind me jumping in to answer this one: that is a screencap from Elijah's stint as host of MTV's TRL last year. :)

Just dropping into the thread so I can get the automatic notifications coming in again. Carry on! (Hi, Ylla!)

~ Mechtild :)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Elijahoncouch4.jpg

This just in:

According to Dougie Brimson (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dougie.brimson/news.htm):
I can officially announce that the movie formerly known as Hooligans and/or The Yank will be titled Green Street when it is released in the UK on August 26th.

Can't say I'm nuts about the title, and neither is Dougie. It's just so... bland. :(

Did you all see that Rodrigues is planning a sequel to Sin City? I think I can link the article: Creators Plan Sequel to Sin City (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050519/en_nm/arts_cannes_sincity_dc_1)
Is there more of Kevin's story? I guess the real question for me though, is will I head back to the theater for more of that world?

Just home from Star Wars. While in line I realized a couple of things:

1) If Elijah had got the part of Anakin as he wanted in Clone Wars, he of course wouldn't have been Frodo. Would I have fallen in love with any other actor's Frodo? And what if PJ had cast an unknown actor as he originally intended; would anyone with Frodo as the first significant role on his resume ever be able to overcome that?

and worst of all:

2) I had the perfect oportunity to get hundreds of signatures on the petition, and I didn't even think of it until a half hour until showtime!

bad honey!

Nice pic, Mech. But I see the kid still hasn't learned to keep his sneakers off the furniture ;) --

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/604be4d0.jpg

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On TV just now they're talking about the new Star Wars movie being available on the street and online shortly after it was released--and the news reporters are surprised :confused: . None of the people they interviewed were, though.

from Honey:
If Elijah had got the part of Anakin as he wanted in Clone Wars, he of course wouldn't have been Frodo.
IMVHO, one of the many steps toward What Was Meant To Be.

--On the "first role" question, it'll be interesting to watch Daniel Radcliffe. He's a good enough actor that I think he'll overcome Harry--if they ever stop making those movies. :p When he was asked in an interview who he wanted to work with in the future, he named Elijah, so we know he recognizes good acting when he sees it. :cool: It'd be great to see the two of them in a movie together (but I can see the headlines: "Former fantasy rivals team up...").

Sin City at Cannes -- Wasn't expecting that to happen.

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The Muppets Wizard of Oz is on TV tonight, and the word is that Miss Piggy will be playing all four witches, which means someone actually went back to the book. Hey, I've been waiting for this since I was an incensed five-year-old book purist! If they've also realized the story shouldn't be a dream, I will be at peace with the world ;) :cool: .

I obviously don't really have anything to say, but I'm drinking my morning coffee, so this is where I have to be. :) :) -- I've been having a conversation on the EII message board at IMDd for the last couple of days with a kid (I'm guessing 14-15 or so) who thinks there are so many movies about the Holocaust because of collusion among all those Jews who have control of the movie industry. I'll have to pop over there (How do I get myself into these things? :rolleyes: ).

Upon following a link to hear that ROTK EE won a Saturn award for its DVD collection, I found that ESTOSM took top honors as best scifi flick of the year! See http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=News&action=page&type_id=&cat_id=272956&obj_id=48785

Honey, why are you bad? You seem very sweet and hardworking to me. :k


ETA: I thought I'd include my response to Bunnie's Green Street title here. This is what I left in her LJ:

What do you expect from a title that was proposed as a political compromise and doubtless crafted by a committee? After all, we can't ruffle any feathers, can we? *puts up sign promoting soothing, safe viewing. With no bad words*

Oops, that wouldn't be this movie. *begins working to insert "bleeps" throughout the picture, in the interest of broadening its appeal*


ETA again! A truly humorous article about the end of geekdom, based on the end of Star Wars, Star Trek, and LOTR. It features this lovely quote:

Thanks to Elijah Wood, women know what a hobbit is. You have no idea how much that helps us in bars.
Very cute. The whole thing is here: http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/24157.htm

But it's not all bleak. We still have Tobey Maguire carrying the geek banner forward as Spiderman... :)

Bunnie, I wanted to say thank you for finally getting A&F to post notice of the petition. I'd e-mailed 'em too, last Friday, but they ignored me. :confused: Anyway, it's caused a nice spike in signatures, and that's :cool:

I've e-mailed several different sites about the petition, and got no response at all. I tried AICN, BigFanBoy.com, and some others I can't think of just at the moment, and they've all ignored me. I can't post at AICN; my user ID doesn't work for some reason. Maybe somebody who can post there could put notice up in the discussion about Hooligans?

I've been trying to gather names and addresses of film-distribution companies. I found a page of film-distributors at IMDb, and have been combing through, looking for appropriate places to mail the petition to. It's interesting how these companies specialize, and some of them are just not appropriate distributors of this film.

I'm trying to decide if I really want to take the petition with me to LA Femme Festival, and beg signatures there. Someone suggested that if I do, I hand out stickers that say something like "Hooligan's R Us" to draw attention. I've been trying to think of a better slogan than that, and I'm just about to settle on "We've Got Your Back, Lexi" because it reflects the spirit of the movie, and will make people ask questions too.

But I would really like your ideas, because in a way I'm representing all of us, and I don't want to embarrass :o any of us! :D

Honey, why are you bad? You seem very sweet and hardworking to me.

Mariole! :k :k Good to see you back!

honey!

Bunnie, I wanted to say thank you for finally getting A&F to post notice of the petition. I'd e-mailed 'em too, last Friday, but they ignored me. :confused: Anyway, it's caused a nice spike in signatures, and that's :cool:

I felt kind of bad when I saw that they'd credited me with the petition, when that was not the way I worded my email to them at all! :o But at least it's getting some attention. I think they just used my request to post it because they know me there.

There is also a short mention of it over at Elijahfan.com, and I think between that and the A&F link, we should get quite a few more signatures.

I think taking the petition to the film festival is a great idea. I'm not sure when/how you could beg the signatures, but what's the worst that could happen? People could tell you they don't want to sign? That said, I don't know if I could do it -- I'm a bit shy in such circumstances, and one can't afford to be shy when promoting a cause. ;)

I felt kind of bad when I saw that they'd credited me with the petition, when that was not the way I worded my email to them at all! :o

Nah! Don't feel bad, it's all to the good of the 'Cause!' :k :k

honey!

Oh, Honey, I meant to mention in my last post that someone somewhere mentioned that Hooligans sounds like it should be a Lion's Gate (http://www.lionsgatefilms.com/index_flash.php) film. I don't know if they were on your list of distributors to try, but from what I see on their website, they certainly look like the sort of place to approach.

Dimension Films maybe? Robert Rodriguez is certainly a friend of Elijah's, and doesn't he own that company? I'd need to research that.

Off to check.

Lion's Gate Films was first on my list to try, and I do have contact info for them. GMTA!

hey!!were is everybody !!!!!! :( :(

very quiet around here tonight!!!!

have seen a bit of the eurovision songcontest,
hoping for our swedish man Martin!!!

how do i get this on-topic???????
have no ider so i stop here right away!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


"Waves to all"

WOOD

Hi wood!!!! :k It is quiet in here.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/alyonir/EWbyviggoinsnow.bmp

So I'll practice with my pictures. NOt a new one. But it does make me think "quiet." ;)

You think this little geek has an opinion about Revenge of the Sith? It looks like he does. Wouldn't ya just love to ask him? :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/starwars4emphaticgeek.jpg

Morning to you all!!!! :k :k

In the frodos harem,there have been some thoughts what woulde happen
if the intresst of this threads are fallin!!

I personaly woulde think that it woulde be a great lost!!!!
But i do understand if that happens!!for some RL has come real close
wich is understandin.And i realy understand the ones who only post
every now and then!!!
But if this threads were closing ,coulde there be a chance to still be in contact????still discution things???
i woulde miss you all terrible if that woulde happend!!! :(

you ,my friends are the only one who realy understands me and have the
patienc with me!!!

and i have found so many friends in here!! and some i will met in real life!!
i don`t whant to lose the contact!!!

who will i discuss such things as ,elijah`s microexpression ,elijah`s abillity to
be the caracter,elijah`s all new movies!!
no one around me here at home have the slites of intresst in that!!!

well,not a good way to start the day with but hey i just hade to share my thoughts,maybe i am the only one thinking this way!!!
but i do`t think so!!!

am i rumberling again??? thought so!!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

In the frodos harem,there have been some thoughts what woulde happen
if the intresst of this threads are fallin!!

Good morning to you, Wood! And to all the Faculty! :k

It can't be dismissed that the LOTR fandom is getting more quiet. But I think that is only natural. I'm certainly not the right person to judge on the ups and downs of LOTR fandom since the beginning. I don't know how LOTR fandom was like before the films were made. Certainly the film project made Tolkien's work more public, and of course there was so much stuff to talk about (in the preparation for the films and during filming), so much room for speculation, apprehension and anticipation, that it was no wonder the messageboards were brimming with excited discussions. Now the films are made, and I can understand that some people move on. It seems to me, that some fans have departed from the Grey Havens, never to return. But there are also many who took Frodo's Red Book and still write the story further, according Frodo's "The last pages are for you, Sam." :)


I personaly woulde think that it woulde be a great lost!!!!
But i do understand if that happens!!for some RL has come real close
wich is understandin.And i realy understand the ones who only post
every now and then!!!
But if this threads were closing ,coulde there be a chance to still be in contact????still discution things???
i woulde miss you all terrible if that woulde happend!!! :(


I heartily agree. It would be a terrible loss. But I don't see this happen. There are times of silence in here; to my mind it is like having a break, or like taking a deep breath before we move on. I can only speak for myself - sometimes I simply have nothing to contribute and am content with only reading the thread. Or in times when RL strikes it can be hard to keep at it. Anyway, to see this thread at KD in its eighth edition bodes well IMHO. :cool:


Lovely lovely pictures, Alyon and Honey! Thank you! :k

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/RotK_lastshot.jpg

Thank you, Wood and Whiteling, for your kind replies. (Yes, it was me ruing the dwindling of the fandom after the movies were out.) I had hoped for an upsurge for the ROTK EE, but there wasn't really much of one. I suppose I will have to wait for a brand-new super-extended edition to be marketed by New Line! :p

I'm glad to see the Faculty thread carrying on. I haven't had much to say about EW's SC or H (now renamed GS so we get two initials). :rolleyes: I hope that EII will help amend matters! Even though I haven't had much to say, I do appreciate the ongoing discussion. RL will continue to be a bear until June. After that, I pray it will ease up a little.

Best wishes to all the dear EW fans! I hope we don't lose touch. :k

I am not going anywhere. (Besides I just got here, compared to some!)

To paraphrase Pippin,'...[Y]ou will have to lock me in prison, or send me home tied in a sack...For otherwise I shall follow the [Faculty].'

C4

WELL C4,I`m planing to stay too!!!

it was just something that come to my mind when i read Marioles post in
the harem thread!! hope you diden`t mind me wrote about in here,Mariole!! :(

I haven`t been around for that long either so i will stick here

untill some one kicks me out or drag me out!! ;)

WOOD

This thread always slows down on the weekend, so I expect it to be quiet here then, especially on Saturdays. People probably have more things going on away from their computers on weekends, or tend to do some of their posting from work during the week (not that I would ever do such a thing :rolleyes: ;) :haha: ). Or, as whiteling said, people are just taking a breath.

The only threads I really watch in Fandom are this one and Lost (which usually gets a flurry of posts every Thursday or so ;) ), so I don't really know how the other threads are doing. I do "drop things off" in the Dom/Billy/Sean A. threads occasionally, if I run across something interesting, but except for Lost I haven't come up with much lately. All of the hobbit boys seem to have small but loyal groups of fans.

I was surprised that the Orlando thread didn't pop up again with KoH, and all the "lists" he's been showing up on lately. But once a thread falls into the void, it's harder to get it going again, simply because people don't see it; someone who knows it's there has to be interested enough to go in and pull it back up again. And, as just a very generalized statement, IMVHO, Orlando fans aren't as geeky as the hobbit actor fans, so many have probably moved on to other interests.

IMHO the Faculty has a couple of things in its favor. With Elijah, we can always find something to talk about. If there isn't anything new happening, we can talk about Casey or Leo or one of the Mikeys, etc., etc. Since most of the other LotR actors really were comparative unknowns before those movies, they don't provide as much material to fall back on during the lulls. (And we can also talk about all the roles we'd like to see Elijah in. :p )

Another advantage, IMHO, is that from the beginning this thread has tended to attract geeks, and true geeks don't go away when they find a topic that indulges their geekiness as much as Elijah's acting does. :) Obsession is very useful in keeping a thread going long-term. As is the ability to have fun with the geekiness/obsession/passionate interest :D instead of having fights about it.

The internet does keep changing. The whole blog/LJ thing seems to have transformed a lot of fandom (speaking in general, not just at KD). I'm guessing that's where a lot of the Hugs Haven material ends up these days, although that's still one of the more active threads here.

(And, actually, except for the very general Rivendell and Asylum, the Community Cafe is still the most active forum at KD.)

IMVVVHO, the Harem and the Faculty stay pretty healthy because each of them is unique in its own way. You can go anywhere on the net and find a Tolkien message board or an Elijah Wood fan site, but you're not going to find anything exactly like the Harem or the Faculty, respectively. And the fact that they're "group efforts" makes it difficult for LJs to completely replace them. And the fact that they're both on the same board, with a fair amount of "inter-posting" doesn't hurt, either.

The NY Post article that Mariole posted the link to has a lot of truth to it, IMHO, especially at the end. Yes, people who "liked" the movies are moving on. People who read the book during the last few years because it was "the thing to do" are finding pursuits that are more popular now (as they did in the late 1960's). The herd is, indeed, being thinned. But as the article said, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

In one of the cartoons in Orlando Bloom Has Ruined Everything, Jason (the consummate Tolkien geek) laments to his mother that his sister (a pure Legolass) liked RotK. The mother doesn't understand the seriousness of this, so he explains:
So what if she's just the tip of the iceberg? What if everyone thinks it's great? What if being a "Lord of the Rings" fanatic becomes, you know... MAINSTREAM!?
It's kind of funny that before the movies came out, I was reassuring some Tolkien readers that this, too, would pass. They were afraid that Tolkien "fandom" (aack! the very word!) would become diluted when the "general population" got interested. I remember saying that, yes, that could happen for a few years, but don't worry. After the movies are over with, the people who were interested just because they were "the current thing" would quickly move off to other "current things" and the geeks would carry on, as we have for the last 50 years. We'll eventually go back to the times similar to 1969, when I was told that anyone who was "still" interested in Tolkien was "out of it." Not that the movies weren't important--by drawing a lot of new people to LotR, they naturally drew a certain number who would want to stay involved after the movies were over with (and I'm so glad to have met you all :) :k ).

VERY GOOD SADE TG!!!!!

AND I AGREE AND THINK YOU ARE RIGHT!!

JUST ME WITH MY TRUBBELED HEAD AGAIN!! :D

And one thing that stroke me most when i started to post in here
is the respect for egother!! i know this has been brought up before
but it is the truth!!!

Respect and careing for egother!!
and this is realy a good place to get new friends!!!
that i hope will last for ever!!!!

why am i having trubbel to spell that word??? :(

WOOD

The Faculty attracts geeks?....why TG....I resemble that remark!!!!

:rolleyes:

Insignia PR, the PR firm for Lexi Alexander and Hooligans, now has their own Petition up HERE: http://www.petitiononline.com/af52005/petition.html

GO SIGN IT! Please! :D

I have sent Mr. Bright e-mail, letting him know of my petition, and also that I don't want to create competition of any sort. I hope I'll get a reply.

Kind of exciting, don't you think?

Will read all the discussion after church!

honey!

Your petition has more signatures than theirs! Nyah! :haha:

Seriously, though -- another petition can't hurt, but I'm wondering about the competition thing... Will having two water down the impact? Is signing both a redundancy? If there were some way to combine them and perhaps reach some more potential signers that we wouldn't otherwise have access to, it would be fantastic.

We've already plugged our own petition nearly everywhere we can think of, and it's still gaining signatures. I hesitate to try promoting another one! I will be interested to hear what sort of response (if any) you get from Mr. Bright.

Hey (((Wood!!)))

We're not going anywhere!! It is always quiet in here on the weekend...and sometimes people need a little re-grouping so we don't end up always repeating ourselves..but I for one love coming in here, not just to hear about Elijah, but to hear some intelligent and playful discussion.

Hey, have you seen the number of views for Hugs Haven?? Only 400 or so posts, but over 40,000 views!! I know this has a lot to do wiht the thread not turning over like the Harem and the Faculty. But that's a lot of people swinging by to take a look, even when the thread isn't very active. Amazing, huh?

I think maybe Honey can merge her petition???? Or at least make sure, HOney, you send yours to the same people their petition is addressed to, to add to the impact. maybe for them to know the effort is out there on various fronts is a good thing

ceefour...I am not going anywhere. (Besides I just got here, compared to some!)Me too! I'm quite content and happy to be here.

tgshaw...(And, actually, except for the very general Rivendell and Asylum, the Community Cafe is still the most active forum at KD.)

Not that the movies weren't important--by drawing a lot of new people to LotR, they naturally drew a certain number who would want to stay involved after the movies were over with (and I'm so glad to have met you all ).And I'd like to mention that the Quote thread over at The Green Dragon is still active and moves along at a rather pleasant pace. That thread also completed 1,000 posts just recently and Maeglian opened a second one for all to enjoy. We seem to be in a :) Frodo/Sam :) phase. And who wouldn't enjoy that! ;) Please come play the game with any character of your choice!! The books, of course, will continue to live on indefinitely. Thank you, Professor Tolkien!!! And if I may be so bold, the current quote is by ceefour and is...Quote:
We have two more ropes.If you know where that is spoken in the books, please come play. And actually, speaking of ropes and their uses, some interesting quotes appear which I'm sure would bring smiles to the Squire's Harem. The rules are mentioned at the beginning of the thread. Thanks! :D

OK, now I'm frustrated. Make that :mad: a little bit angry.

It turns out the new petition is not linked to Insignia PR at all, but is another fan's effort. "Lady" as she calls herself says:

We all know the pharse "the more the merrier?" Well I've started another petition to send to specific film distributors for the movie "Hooligans."

It's plain that she can out write me, and that's just fine, but...

OK, while I was typing this I got an e-mail from Mr. Erick Bright at Insignia (I'd sent him a long e-mail explaining my previous one.) His reply is here:

Pamela,

Hi. We appreciate your efforts to help get the film distribution. May I ask your affiliation to the film? Odd Lot and the producers are working to get distribution and we have positive prospects. We should have a deal set in the next couple months. Please keep a look out for our theatrical release, as we need fans like you to keep the momentum going.

Thanks for your interest in the film.

Best Regards,

Erik Bright

to which I replied:

Dear Mr. Bright,

My only affiliation to the film is as that of a fan. I'm very heartened to hear that a deal is pending. We "fans" had been very frustrated at reports that the film was having trouble generating interest amoung American film distributors. I'm relieved to hear that this is not so!

Yours,

Pamela

Anyway, I've posted a note to "lady" asking if we can somehow combine efforts. But at from Mr. Bright's note, it looks like they don't need us geeks mixing in their business, and we may all be seeing a trailer for Hooligans in a theater near you!

So color me :D happy-geek. I'm going to go watch Hooligans next Saturday, and have fun doing it! (and be indistinguishable from all the other movie-geeks in the room!)

honey!

Hi, Shelbyshire! Simulposting!

I just wanted to say that I'm not planning on going anywhere, Wood! :k As TG says, we've got a whole past catalog of Elijah's work to enjoy and discuss. And then there are all those lovely upcoming films to see and discuss. And scripts as yet unread by Elijah, anyone of which could potentially have us all asking "Frodo who?" ;)

honey!

That will always be Frodo Baggins, Honey ;) . As Shelbyshire said, the book will live on. :cool: (And so will the movies, I believe. :) )

Hey, have you seen the number of views for Hugs Haven?? Only 400 or so posts, but over 40,000 views!!
Well, the place is so nicely decorated ;) .

Honey, that does sound like good news from Mr. Bright (but I'm not exhaling quite yet). And, see, we never would have heard it if not for the petition. :) He does say they need the fans to keep the momentum going, so I don't think any efforts are wasted.

--Shelbyshire, I've been enjoying the unusual role (for me :p ) of "lurker" in the Quote Game. Since I don't often have the book handy while I'm online, I play along to see how many I know without actually posting. I always figure that if there's a quote I recognize that sits there for a couple of days, I might post, but that hasn't happened for a long time.

I do wish things were a little more active in the Green Dragon, but I think the lack of discussion there is partly because this is a relatively small message board. I dropped into the TV forum earlier, and there wasn't a single thread there that had been active in the last 30 days--a few came up if I went back farther. I was looking for a place to talk about how good the Muppets Wizard of Oz was, and was prepared to start up a thread--but I wasn't quite ready to resurrect an entire forum!

--So I'll just say here that it was good--not a remake of the MGM movie, but definitely starting from the original source. It was closer to the book than the other movie, despite the facts that Dorothy's aunt and uncle ran a diner instead of a farm, and the Wicked Witch of the West rode a motorcycle. :p All four witches! Not a dream! Silver magic shoes! The tin man's backstory of love and envy! Mice (well, "Rats in Hats" :D ) saving the day in the poppy field! Different characters seeing the wizard in different guises (not quite as much as in the book, but...)! The special green glasses that had to be worn in the Emerald City! The Wicked Witch's magical cap (I'd even forgotten about that, until it came up)! And, perhaps most importantly, the moral of the story was not "There's no place like home." I didn't know until the movie started that it was a Disney product, but IMVHO Disney beat MGM on this one.

Honey, I hope Mr. Bright wasn't just trying to put a positive spin on things and that they really do have good prospects for getting the film released. At this point, few things would make me happier than news of a distribution deal for North America. :)

While I'm hear, I just need to mention that, thanks to Achila, I had the extreme pleasure of being able to watch Elijah's entire Homicide episode. I had seen his snippets, of course, thanks to some resourceful friends, but getting to watch them in context was a brilliant experience. Elijah is nothing short of amazing in that role, and how I would love to see him play another villain in the near future! If that had been my first exposure to the lad, I think I would have hated him, too. :cool:

I am not going anywhere. (Besides I just got here, compared to some!)






Hey me too! It was a great joy to actually find this thread...Who knew this wonderful group of people and thread existed!!!!! Silent though I may often be, when I return home and to the computer the first thing I do is check with the Faculty Lounge.


And honeyelf..... :D :D :D great news about Hooligans. Crossing fingers. I think the petition is playing its part (thank you) and we need to continue to bring pressure to bear.

Changing subject I did finally see McPhee (Homicide, episode "The True Test"). Wow. What a performance! I am so sooooooo glad that was not MY introduction to Elijah. That is an image hard to shake. I remember the discussion earlier in this thread and I understand. I understand but how DOES he do that????

cheers!

saile

tg, I was wondering how you liked The Muppets version, since you had read the books of The Wizard of Oz. The Muppets always put a decidely quirky spin on things. (For instance, Toto asking The Great Oz is he was a relative of Frank Oz. :lol: )

And what do you mean this thread attracts geeks? I didn't go to the midnight showing of The Revenge of the Sith; I waited until the 10AM show. OK, maybe I did take off from work in 1983 to see The Return of the Jedi on opening day, but that doesn't mean...well, maybe it does.

Honeyelf, are you taking the petition with you when you see Hooligans?

C-geek is good-4

Honeyelf, are you taking the petition with you when you see Hooligans?

I'm not sure what to do now, C4! I'll consider suggestions! :)

I don't get it, Honey... why wouldn't you take the petition? Just because there's another one in the works? (Yours has over 900 signatures, you know. I think that's impressive for a little over a week.)

In related news, anyone live in the Atlanta area? The Atlanta Film Festival is screening Hooligans on June 17th. (http://www.imagefv.org/aff2004/screenings_international.htm#Hooligans) :)

I don't get it, Honey... why wouldn't you take the petition? Just because there's another one in the works?

OK, some thought experiments:

I. I take it to LA Femme Fest, and pass if it off to someone? Whom?

II. I take it to LA Femme Fest, and get signatures on it, and make a spectacle of myself doing so. I've got no problem doing that :p , but then what happens?

A. there are distributor-people roaming the halls, observing audience reactions. They see a chubby grey-haired woman soliciting signatures on an ill-conceived petition, touting a movie starring men who are young enough to be the chubby grey-haired woman's son. They:

1) wet themselves laughing, then decide that if chubby grey-haired women are intrigued by the film, then it ought to do big box-office. They invest:

a) the audiences are underwhelming to say the least, and they put out a hit on this particular chubby grey-haired woman.

b) the box-office take is HUGE, and several clone movies hit the screens over the next 2 years. Meanwhile, somewhere in Venice California, a certain actor's trash can is heaped with soccer-related scripts.

III. I take it to LA Femme Fest, and Lexi Alexander comes upon me making a spectacle of myself. She kicks my large white arse because she can. Also because she don't want no chubby grey-haired woman from the suburbs gettin' all up in her movie bidness!

IV. I take it to LA Femme Fest, and present it during the Director/Star Q&A after the viewing. Elijah, overcome with gratitude, kisses me profusely and I die then and there. a happy woman. My husband falls into a slow, sad decline losing the house, and his career in the space of a year. My children, who did have a measure of respect for me before December 2002, change their names and are forced to live pale, obscure lives in the suburbs.

hmmmmm....

I don't know, why not? :D ;) ;) :rolleyes: :eek:

But seriously, what can I accomplish by taking the petition to the film fest?

Oh, HONEY! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay, so you've got a point. Several, in fact.

I can't help but feel that there is an opportunity for getting more signatures, though. Pass out fliers with a plea and a URL? Though most of them would end up in the trash, and the rest would probably be neglected... I don't know. Maybe there's no real point to taking it with you. And if Mr. Bright is to be believed, maybe it will turn out that there's really no need!

wether you do it or not Honey ,i stand behinde you!!!!

I think Bunnies ider was a great on!!!!


WOOD

:lol:

First of all (I almost wrote Frist of all--but that got my blood boiling. An American joke...)

HOney is hilarious, but I must insert that regardless that she painted herself as rather laugh-worthy...HOney is beautiful she'd be darn impressive holding that petition and handing out smoldering looks. I've seen her.

But, Honey, maybe you can post the petition or place it (copies on a clipboard) at a table in the lobby??? Or something??? If you are given permission??

..HOney is beautiful she'd be darn impressive holding that petition and handing out smoldering looks. I've seen her.
And I suspect she speaks in the same way that she writes, which means they would all be charmed.

Whatever you decide, honey, is fine with me, of course. I can understand your desire to just enjoy yourself. Petioning takes a lot of energy and would be a distraction to the main event. And anticipating the main event, a glorious EW on screen , well that deserves a lot of attention.

cheers!

saile

:cool: :cool:

Honey, I vote for..

IV. I take it to LA Femme Fest, and present it during the Director/Star Q&A after the viewing. Elijah, overcome with gratitude, kisses me profusely :k :k :k :k :k :k :k :k
Minus the rest of your forecast. ;)

Besides he probably would do that..or at least give you a great big hug.

And I think Lexi would be grateful and not kick you anywhere even though she can. ;) Maybe she would buy you a nice glass of German beer. :cool:

Hello, wonderful Faculty!

May I say how very much I missed you all. I had a nasty computer virus last week that put me out of commission until today. Luckily, I was able to rescue everything off my hard drive except my email address book (oh well) but all the software, including Windows, had to be reloaded. However, Dell had neglected to include the driver software when I bought the machine (it was already loaded on), so I had to wait until today to finish up all the installations (and that meant not being able to use the internet).

So anyway, I'm back and it doesn't look like I missed anything too important -- except all of you! :k

Achila, it's good to see your name in a post. Isn't it awful to be forcibly cut off from one's messageboard/internet life? I adore having access to mine and pine without it. :p I am glad you are OK; I was beginning to wonder, as I lurked and didn't see your name for such a long spell (long for you, that is :cool: ).

~ Mechtild

Guess it's settled then. I'll take the petition with me. I make no gaurantees it will ever make it out of my back-pack. But just in case I'm feelin' brave...

In my wanderings about net today (I really need to get a life) I came across a vid clip of Zach Wood on Live Journal. It wasn't a particularly interesting subject that he was discussing to me, non-gamer that I am. (He was producer on an game called Area 51. Apparently Marilyn Manson is one of the head aliens! :D)

It was fun to watch it though. He reminds me of his slightly more famous :) brother in a lot of ways. Of course there is the very strong physical resemblence. They both seem to prefer untucked, striped shirts, with under-shirts. The differences between Wood brothers were interesting too; Elijah's voice is much more expressive; that actor's training showing.

And I wonder if either Wood brother could talk with his hands tied behind his back? ;) That got me thinking of the characters Elijah has played, and I can't think if one that talks with his hands.

It's always fascinated me that an actor can find his or her way back to themselves, and yet completely become a fully formed character, embuing that character with an entirely new way of moving, and voice. Apparently Elijah has an incredible facility for immediatley going into character, and back out. I finally got to watch the "Try 17" European dvd extras yesterday, (thanks to Bunnie, and my long-suffering husband) and someone in the cast mentioned how he could be playing one moment, and compeletely "on" the next. Fascinating.

Achila, glad to see you're back!

I miss ZK Grumpy :( !

honey!

Guess it's settled then. I'll take the petition with me. I make no gaurantees it will ever make it out of my back-pack. But just in case I'm feelin' brave...

YAY, Honey! I cross my fingers, toes and everything else for your vote catching. :cool:

It's always fascinated me that an actor can find his or her way back to themselves, and yet completely become a fully formed character, embuing that character with an entirely new way of moving, and voice. Apparently Elijah has an incredible facility for immediatley going into character, and back out. I finally got to watch the "Try 17" European dvd extras yesterday, (thanks to Bunnie, and my long-suffering husband) and someone in the cast mentioned how he could be playing one moment, and compeletely "on" the next. Fascinating.

Absolutely fascinating. Just yesterday I read an interview with the German actress Juliane Köhler who played Eva Braun (Hitler's beloved and few-hours-wife) in "The Downfall". Like Elijah, she seems to be able to draw a clear line between herself and her roles.

Q: How do you feel personally during the filming of difficult topics? How do you bear up cumbering shootings?
A: I am one of those actors who concentrate totally on their craft. My teacher Uta Hagen conveyed to me that playing a role is a craft. Of course emotions and my own mood are involved as well. But I can winnow me and my role quite well. It is as if I'd stood next to me and I can watch me during acting. For me, acting and film-shooting is like going to work, and the filmset is my workplace. After a 16-hours-day I'm going home, drink my beer and call it a day.
(Hmmm, you all must get the impression that we Germans incessantly drink beer :eek: :p. It's not that bad. :D)

Achila, glad to see you're back!
Me too! I started to wonder where you are :)

And I miss Grumpy too! :(


(((Mechtild))) - I'm thinking of you!

Be brave Honey!

( I am reminded of Boromirs words (sort of ) at the Council of Elrond;
" You cannot just walk into the LA Femme Film Fest. The doors are guarded by more than just security guards.The very air you breathe is a heady mixture of perfume. Not with 10,000 signatures could you do this ! " ;) )

We'll be thinking of you.!

I see that Elijah is going to be an honorary Chair at the La Film Festival in June. (What would an honorary chair do, exactly? )

See here. (http://www.filmstew.com/Content/Article.asp?ContentID=11572&Pg=1)

Sin City posters are appearing here now and I even saw a trailer on TV recently.( No sign of Kevin in it though.) Its good to see the lads name on a film poster again. :)

It's always fascinated me that an actor can find his or her way back to themselves, and yet completely become a fully formed character, embuing that character with an entirely new way of moving, and voice. Apparently Elijah has an incredible facility for immediatley going into character, and back out. I finally got to watch the "Try 17" European dvd extras yesterday, (thanks to Bunnie, and my long-suffering husband) and someone in the cast mentioned how he could be playing one moment, and compeletely "on" the next. Fascinating. This was something I remember someone (Faith Ford, I think it was) saying about him when he was just a wee lad, how he could be a little boy one moment and an actor the next. I guess this skill has never left him.
I see that Elijah is going to be an honorary Chair at the LA Film Festival in June. (What would an honorary chair do, exactly? )I don't know what they might do, but this' an honor for him. Nice to see that he's keeping busy :) , even if he's not making us movies. He's also been in NYC again, presumably doing ADR for EII, and he made the rounds with Dom at E3.

I see that Elijah is going to be an honorary Chair at the La Film Festival in June. (What would an honorary chair do, exactly? )

See here. (http://www.filmstew.com/Content/Article.asp?ContentID=11572&Pg=1)
I thought this might mean that they were going to screen Hooligans, but that is not the case. :( It's got me wondering if the "chair" (whatever that is) has to be a neutral party, or something. I wonder if he's even required to show up? :confused:

An optimistic friend of mine says that maybe the film isn't part of the festival line-up because they expect to have distribution by then. I guess we can always hope!

EDIT:Apparently, Elijah is hosting opening night (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000930712) of the festival. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/bumblebee01.jpg

In honor of my 700th post -- and just cuz! :k

Congratulations, Achila!

701 is a significant number, too. And so is 702, 703, 704...

C4

P.S. Last week's Lost is being repeated tonight at 8PM EDT.

ETA-On second viewing, (alright, it's really my fourth), I got past the eyes to notice the lovely display of EW's sternocleidomastoid. :cool:

Oh, Honey, you are so funny (hey, that rhymes!). I think I would stick with the anonymous on-line petition, but then I was always a coward at heart. I've yet to publicly admit to my infatuation with a young man who is closer to my children's age than mine (All together now: EWWWWWW). But since I've got a giant poster of Frodo next to my bed, I do believe my husband is beginning to suspect.

Even so, all of those who get to see Hooligans ought to create a spoiler thead. Marty had a thread like that on another board after he saw an early screening of ROTK. He would answer questions, but not offer any info beyond that. Since the thread was a spoiler thread, only those wanting spoilers would look.

If you do create such a thread, link it here. And be prepared for gratitude. Several women (myself included) offered to have Marty's love child--and I've even had a tubal ligation. If only I could have gotten the surgery reversed.

You know, thanks to Bunnie Bugs' info on the Atlanta screening, I might be able to see Hooligans myself. My husband is changing jobs in June, and if he has the 17th off to watch the kids (and boy does he owe me some time off), maybe I could swing a quick trip to Atlanta (about 4 hours from here). Hmmmmmmm.

(((Mech--thinking of you))))

Popping in to drop this off, via our own BunnieBugs, re: EII:

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=7739

Note that the release date now says "September 16, 2005 (NY, LA; Top 10 Markets: September 23)", so you guys in LA and NY are golden -- the rest of us won't be seeing it until the 23rd. :(

Note that the release date now says "September 16, 2005 (NY, LA; Top 10 Markets: September 23)", so you guys in LA and NY are golden -- the rest of us won't be seeing it until the 23rd.

I HATE when they do that! I've never figured it out, either. Are they hoping word of mouth will help sell the film? What's the deal?

Have been in contact with the author of the other petition; we're planning on merging our efforts. She says Odd Lot (Hooligans production co., woman-owned and run) is aware of both petitions, and are "very receptive" to them. That's interesting! :cool:

ETA: Heard Terri Gross of NPR interview Carrie Fisher, "Princess Leia" of Star Wars fame. Ms. Fisher talked about going to one fan convention, and signing autographs. She said one woman came up to her in tears, saying "You were such an inspiration to me!" Ms. Fisher asked her what her job was, and the woman replied that she was a lawyer. Ms. Fisher was astonished at this, since she couldn't see how a space princess related to lawyering.

Her reaction seemed rather ungracious to me on two levels. Imagine if that woman (or others like her,) being a Princess Leia fan, was listening? Wouldn't she be justified in feeling a bit betrayed? Secondly, Ms. Fisher seems to have forgotten that it was the seventies, when women's lib was a rather new developement, and the standard movie heroine was the damsel in distress. Leia was handy with a blaster, and organized a rebellion force, fer cryin' out sideways!

just nattering again,
honey!

PS My Hooligans petition has topped a thounsand! B)

Achila, congrats on 700 posts! And for posting a picture that has escaped my notice until now! ;)

Sin City UK premiere was yesterday (day before yesterday). But no Elijah!

I’m pleased to say the publicity post-Sith is filling up nicely so they’re obviously hoping to get a big audience. I recorded the premiere programme but it was awfully dull and only a teeny tiny bit of Elijah, not even introducing his character or anything. Booo. Not that I’m paranoid or anything, but I do feel that UK media has a tendency to sweep him under the carpet rather.

I hope he comes over and does a few interviews, but if he didn’t come to the premiere, its unlikely. Ah well, I spect he will for Green Street.

I’m pleased to say the publicity post-Sith is filling up nicely so they’re obviously hoping to get a big audience. I recorded the premiere programme but it was awfully dull and only a teeny tiny bit of Elijah, not even introducing his character or anything. Booo. Not that I’m paranoid or anything, but I do feel that UK media has a tendency to sweep him under the carpet rather. Well, to be fair, it really IS a teeny tiny role -- probably about 5 minutes of screen time altogether. So despite the rave notices he got over here for the performance, I think that's probably appropriate, unfortunately.

Well, to be fair, it really IS a teeny tiny role -- probably about 5 minutes of screen time altogether. So despite the rave notices he got over here for the performance, I think that's probably appropriate, unfortunately.

Heh, I am just showing my bias here. Sometimes I forget the rest of the world isn’t as obsessed as I am. On the other hand, the crowd at the premiere seemed a bit subdued, and I bet some of them would’ve been a lot more excited if a certain Wood had been there. Okay, that’s just me again.

:)

Anybody wanna volunteer to help me out with some research?

I want to take a list of potential contacts to whom I will eventually address the petition. You never know who I might run into, begging signatures, and I'd like to show that I'm trying to be prepared.

I have contact names and addresses for the following:

Think Film, First Look Media Inc., and Lion's Gate Entertainment.

I'm lacking addresses and person to contact for these:

Fox Searchlight Pictures -- have a corporate address, need a contact name

Columbia Tristar Motion Picture Group -- have a contact name, need an address

New Line Theatrical Distribution -- have a contact name, need an address

Warner Independent Pictures -- have an address, need a contact name

That's where I am, and I've just sort of hit a brick wall. If I have to, I'll go with an incomplete list. If anyone can scrape up anything useful, you can PM me.

BIG :k :k in advance, and just 'cause!

honey!

ETA: Whoa! This is really exciting stuff! From Deborah Del Prete, the producer of Hooligans. BTW, this letter is not to me, but to one of the ladies working on the other petition effort:

We can’t thank you enough for your enthusiasm and for taking such action. We believe it will be very helpful to us as we pursue a domestic deal. We believe your efforts will make the picture even more attractive to potential buyers and we’ll be letting them know about the petition. We’ll let you know if there is anything else that you can do to help us and we’ll inform you if we get any news on distribution.

and from another in our loose association of fans behind the petition effort:

...They [Odd Lot] think that the petitions will be more powerful if it comes from the fans. If they helped, the distributors would think that Odd Lot was behind the petitions. Using the petitions as another sales ploy. The petitions would be less powerful then to a distributer. The petitions have to genuinely come from the fans to have any impact.

Exciting, no? :D

I may not have the time to post in the next couple of days--so I want to wish Honey all good things and send her off to see Hooligans with high hopes and easy feelings. I will close my eyes and repeat over and over--The lead actor will be there!! ;) Just enjoy yourself!! If you don't end up feeling comfortable getting signatures, don't.

Starting Friday I'll be out of town for maybe five or six weeks. I will pop back into town once or twice during that time at which time I can try to catch up on posts and check my email. Unfortunately I don't have a laptop--so though I may find a place to check my email while I'm gone, or be able to borrow someone else's computer, I don't feel comfortable leaving little cookies from KD on someone else's computer :rolleyes: :) Any insights on being sneaky?? Not sure I want to open up big Elijah pictures in front of just anyone!!! :D ;) Nor Frodo either. I may be able to act bookish about that, but come on....I don't think I can pass for merely an academic with that face peering out at me. Protest all I that I might.
I'm going to be chaparoning on a film set and it should be lots of fun. But
I will miss you all and will frantically try to keep up when and if I have the chance. I plan to call HOney to see how the Hooligans showing went.

Have fun with all good things, and I'll check in when I can.
Alyon

HALLO MY FRIENDS!!!

POPING VERY QUICK FROM WORK TO TELL YOU THÁT MY

COMPUTER HAS BROKEN DOWN!! NO INTERNET SINCE MONDAY NIGHT!!!! :( :( :(

I MISS YOU ALL!!!! :k :k :k :k

HOPING TO BE AIBEL TO FIX IT VERY SOON HOPEFULLY LATER TO NIGHT
OR TOMORROW!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL AND MISS YOU/WOOD

I thought you folks might enjoy this little snippet about Elijah's role as Kevin as much as I did:

A potentially controversial – and certainly against type! – piece of casting is Elijah Wood. The sweet-faced saviour of Middle Earth is clearly determined not to become the new Mark Hammill with roles as diverse as Kevin, psycho-killer, and his forthcoming role as a thug in Hooligans.

“I worked with him on The Faculty and he’s got these piercing blue eyes that women love but I always found quite creepy. And I told him that I was one day going to cast him as a psychopath, never thinking that I actually would!” Rodriguez grins.

Laughing, Miller adds: “And I really wanted to see Frodo eat people!”

From here (http://www.futuremovies.co.uk/filmmaking.asp?ID=121). :D

Also, Elijah did his stint as a DJ at last night's Alternative Press 20th Anniversary Party:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/359305.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/359321.jpg

:cool: Hope he had fun!

Every time I go on vacation, the Faculty seems to start a new thread. On the other hand, as honeyelf noted, that does have the benefit of producing lots of “gratuitous pic-spamming.” – much appreciated, since I’ve been cut off from the Internet (and thus from All Things Wood) for a full week. Here’s my contribution – one of my very favorite Frodo pix (thanks to Achila for originally providing me with the still; she can testify to my reaction whenever this scene comes on, in FOTR):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/ffotrmeetings10.jpg

The June issue of Total Film that Random mentioned a while back is now available in the US. In addition to the Hooligans article that she transcribed, there is a big article on Sin City that includes the following (Rodriguez made a similar comment in the interview quoted by BunnieBugs):“I would have done anything,” stresses Elijah Wood. “It didn’t really matter what character I played, but Kevin is an incredible character. He’s completely twisted!” Yes, Frodo goes loco in Sin City. Kevin is a cannibal and Rodriguez has always seen the killer inside Wood. “When I was working on The Faculty I noticed his very intense blue eyes and I thought, ‘I’m going to cast him as a psychopath some day.’” Chillingly calm, his eyes providing one of Sin City’s rare flashes of colour, Wood is terrific. (Query: Were his eyes in color?? I didn’t notice that.)

tgshaw wrote, about the longevity of threads:. . . from the beginning this thread has tended to attract geeks, and true geeks don't go away when they find a topic that indulges their geekiness as much as Elijah's acting does.Obsession is very useful in keeping a thread going long-term. As is the ability to have fun with the geekiness/obsession/passionate interest instead of having fights about it. Hear, hear! One of the things I love about this thread is the blend of news, critical comment, humor, and, yes, swooning. I love the fact that people can seriously discuss the nuances of Elijah’s acting, and then turn around and riff on something like voles and lemurs, or Francesca da Rimini (sp??). I’ve always thought that playfulness was a sign of intelligence, and I think that what goes on here bears that out.

BunnieBugs – Thanks for the quote from the interview with Liev. But when I read Achila’s comment . . . And ah...Liev is rhapsodizing about Elijah's eyes.... . . . all I could think of was Hans Jensen: “Big . . . blue. . .” :)

honey! Good to hear about the progress of the petition!

[Added later] Just went back to the old thread, and found some posts I had missed, including tg’s link to the whoisaugustine site. Thanks for that. It is very clever (though the John Holmes reference startled me a bit.)

hi all!!!

lovely picture pelagia !!!! :k :k

great to see you back achila !!!! :k :k

thou i only was a way from the internet since monday

i have mised you all terrible!!!!!

now everything is working again and all is back to normal!!!!!! :k :k


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Bunniebugs

That second Elijah DJ picture was scrumptious. {right click, save}

Oh, er, um . . . we're not supposed to swoon here, right?

Oh, er, um . . . guess I have nothing new to add! :rolleyes:

This one has not been posted for awhile has it? Tg, is this one of yours? I am not sure of its origin to be honest. It's a holiday weekend here, so thought this puzzle of sorts, might be welcome...hmmmmm while we wait to hear from honey and any news she might have for us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/eyescomp22.jpg

They are all from LoTR of course.

cheers!
saile

I don't leave for LA until tomorrow morning. Probably won't be back in communication with you all until Sunday afternoon when I arrive back home. It's gonna be quite a long trip, involving two 9-hour stints on the train! :eek:

Saile, I like your puzzle! I had to really think about a couple of them. I'll PM you with my answers, and you can tell me how many I got wrong. ;)

honey!

saile: What a fun collage! I'll send you my answers, too. (#12 is driving me crazy -- can't quite get it.)

To everybody in the USA, have a great Memorial Day weekend. I hope you all get 3 days off. And if you're going away, travel safe!

Nope, the collage isn't mine. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen it before. The only one I'm not absolutely sure of is #4, but I'm pretty sure of it. :) I'm too tired to sit and type them all out, though...

Was planning to go to my mom's this weekend, but may not. Had a grant that had to go out the door today at work, which makes for a stressful week, so I'm still at the office decompressing after everyone's gone. My sisters will be here next weekend, which is always totally exhausting, and two weekends in a row would be a bit much. So I may wait til the July 4 weekend to go to Fort Dodge. I don't think "normal people" realize how much time I spend alone, especially on weekends (and would worry about me if they did), so don't understand how draining it can be to have to act like an extravert for a solid 3 or 4 days.

Sorry... I'm just super tired right now.

I don't think "normal people" realize how much time I spend alone, especially on weekends (and would worry about me if they did), so don't understand how draining it can be to have to act like an extravert for a solid 3 or 4 days.

TG, I feel your pain! When I took the Myers Briggs personality test about 10 years ago, it was the hugest relief - to find out I was introverted and being around other people drained my energy and being alone re-charged it. And extroverts just can't understand it because they're just the opposite! I completely understand being alone and loving it. ;)

tgshaw wrote:
I don't think "normal people" realize how much time I spend alone, especially on weekends (and would worry about me if they did), so don't understand how draining it can be to have to act like an extravert for a solid 3 or 4 days.
As a Meyers-Briggs INTP who lives alone, I know exactly what you mean, tg! I just returned from a week spent staying with my mother, with visits from sister, brother-in-law, niece, aunt, uncle, and cousin; and believe me, I was exhausted by the time I got home. I just get socialized out! Especially after several days of chatting with people who really don’t share many of my interests -- although at least the niece, aunt, and cousin are on my wavelength politically. On the other hand, my niece is a Josh Hartnett fan . . . . :mad:

Now, here's someone who looks like a brooding introvert, IMHO:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/the-yank-behind-hi-res-059.jpg

I don't think "normal people" realize how much time I spend alone, especially on weekends (and would worry about me if they did), so don't understand how draining it can be to have to act like an extravert for a solid 3 or 4 days.

I'm totally there with you. In fact, I even have the Virginia Woolfe thing of being afraid of the servants (thank goodness I don't live in a time when they are necessary to run the household). I really offended the yard crew by asking them not to come to my door. I had to explain that I just wanted them to treat the yard as they would their own, and not ask my opinion.

Okay, maybe I'm a little bit more introverted than I should be.

As for the One Lad, I wonder if that is why he likes to DJ so much. That way he doesn't have to actually interact with people.

I subscribed for email updates Hooligans website and just got an email from em - for those who didn't subscribe, it runs as follows:

Thank you so much for signing our registry and for your enthusiasm for
our film, HOOLIGANS. We are thrilled with the overwhelming interest we
have received on our website from you, our fans, and wanted to give you
a quick update on our progress:



U.S. DISTRIBUTION

Currently, we are considering several proposals for U.S. distribution
but you can help us too! We recently learned there is a fan petition
circulating to help us secure a domestic distribution deal. If you’d like
to check it out, please go to
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?lexi.



FOREIGN DISTRIBUTION

In England, Universal is releasing HOOLIGANS on August 26th and it’s
planned to be the biggest independent release they have ever done in the
UK (props to Universal!!!). Please revisit our website next week as we
will have new release dates in various foreign territories.



FILM FESTIVALS

We are happy to announce that HOOLIGANS took the Jury & Audience awards
at both the SXSW Film Festival and the Malibu Film Festival this year.
While we were not in the competition, we had a great run of screenings
at the Tribeca Film Festival and are showing the film this weekend at
the LA Femme Film Festival and June 17th at the Atlanta Film Festival.



Thank you again for all your support!



Sincerely,

Deborah Del Prete & Gigi Pritzker

Producers, HOOLIGANS


Excellent news on UK distribution and I hope this gets Bunnie's already packed petition loads more replies!

Random, that is so awesome! I signed up for email updates, as well, but I haven't received that one, yet. This looks very promising! :)

Oh, and it's not my petition, it's Honey's -- I just helped to promote it. And maybe it will do some good after all! Last I checked, it was up to 1111 signatures!

Speaking of Honey, she'll be enjoying Hooligans tonight, won't she? I look forward to her report!

Oh, beg pardon Honey and Bunnie. :)

Hello to all The Faculty!

Pelagia, wasn't that picture smaller this morning?

Random, thanks for sharing your Hooligans news.

I re-watched the documentaries for FOTR and TTT over the past couple of days. There is a lovely pencil sketch of EW in the FOTR costume documentary. I'm surprised no Faculty member has screencapped it. (Hint, hint.)

C4

Happy Memorial Day Weekend, all! Thought you might enjoy seeing this -- a friend of mine sent this site to me.

http://www.arnadal.no/film/actors/woode.htm

Elijah Wood

"Elijah Wood has emerged, in my opinion, as the most talented actor in his age group in Hollywood history" - Roger Ebert

Full NAME Elijah Jordan Wood
BORN 28 January 1981, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
ASSOCIATION Actor
NATIONALITY American
LIVES New York, NY
REVIEWED ENTRIES 17
MAX. RATING
MIN. RATING
AVERAGE RATING 4,00
STRENGTHS Charisma, natural presence, emotional depth.


WHAT DO THE CRITICS SAY?

"'Paradise' does have real qualities. Two of them are the kids, played by Elijah Wood and Thora Birch with strong, simple charm." - Roger Ebert, Chicago Sun-Times, on Paradise.

"As Mike and Bobby, Wood (Paradise) and Joseph Mazzello are excellent." - Leah Rozen, People Magazine, on Radio Flyer.

"Wood is an almost scarily accomplished little pro." - Jay Carr, Boston Globe, December 16, 1992, on Forever Young.

"Elijah Wood brings a naturalness to his acting that at times is completely disarming. Perhaps Mel Gibson should have paid more attention to the familiar adage that actors should never work with animals or children because they are likely to be upstaged. As he did in Radio Flyer (1992), Wood manages to evoke all the right emotions, furthering the story as a result. His performance is in direct contrast to the rather uneven acting of Gibson, who treats some of the more dramatic moments with inappropriate lightness. Since Wood can clearly hold his own with such a seasoned professional as Gibson, Wood's career as an actor is assured." - Richard Cormack, Prodigy Online Services, on Forever Young.

"Good-hearted Huck is the most engaging urchin in American literature, and in scamp-and-a-half Elijah Wood he comes to life more than he ever has before.... Not even Mickey Rooney and Jackie Coogan, who starred in two of the earlier versions, captured the spunk and the spirit of the boy who wouldn't be civilized in quite the way Wood has.... With a face lively even in repose and eyes like great dark saucers, Wood displays more of an irrepressible imp persona than he showed in 'Avalon' and 'Radio Flyer'. Yet it is not just his wholehearted relish for pranksterism that sets this Huck apart, it is his air of capability and self-possession. This is one small boy whose survival on his own is not at all hard to believe." - Kenneth Turan, Los Angeles Times, April 2, 1993, on The Adventures of Huck Finn.

"Huck is played by Elijah Wood, from 'Radio Flyer' and 'Forever Young', who mercifully seems free of cuteness and other afflictions of child stars, and makes a resolute, convincing, Huck." -- Roger Ebert, Chicago Sun-Times, April 2, 1993, on The Adventures of Huck Finn.

"[Elijah Wood is] a talented young actor who acquits himself well even under these dire circumstances." - James Verniere, The Boston Herald, September 24, 1993, on The Good Son.

"Second-billed Wood is a far better actor [than Macaulay Culkin], and his scenes with Culkin bring the child star's limitations into painful relief." - CineBooks Motion Picture Guide, on The Good Son.

"Mr. Wood is currently the most natural, confident child actor of his generation... He's very likable throughout, and Mr. Reiner has surrounded him with a good deal of comic relief." -Janet Maslin, New York Times, July 22, 1994, on The War.

"Elijah Wood has emerged, in my opinion, as the most talented actor in his age group in Hollywood history." - Roger Ebert, Chicago Sun-Times, on The War.

"Elijah Wood--that terrific little actor--has the spunk and fury to make Stu into more than just a peacenik. ...His performance resembles a champion swimmer paddling through heavy molasses." - Peter Rainer, The Los Angeles Times, November 4, 1994, on The War.

"The most satisfaction the movie offers is the spectacular acting of Wood, 13, who is the best under-20 actor since Freddie Bartholomew." - Ralph Novak, People Magazine, on The War.

"Elijah Wood confirms his standing as the foremost actor of his generation. ...Wood acts so eloquently with his sentient face and searching eyes that his job becomes one of concealing how redundant his spoken lines are - a tricky job he largely is able to bring off commendably." - Jay Carr, The Boston Globe, on The War.

"In Jon Avnet's mesmerizing 'The War', young Master Wood is giving acting lessons all around.... I prefer to ponder the wonder of Elijah Wood, who manages to bring tremendous restraint - an inner simmering - to a role that, with a lesser actor, could have gone out of control.... Sometimes a great performance is just a onetime occurrence, and sometimes it is a flash of things to come. Right now, Wood is blinding us." - Rod Lurie, Los Angeles Magazine, on The War.

"Young Wood is an exceptionally talented actor; his career is likely to survive both The War and the disastrous North." - CineBooks Motion Picture Guide, on The War.



QUOTES

"Kids are supposed to have fun. They're supposed to do something that they like to do, because they don't have to worry about paying the bills and things like that. I'm doing something that I like to do and I'm having fun. Acting, for me, is normal. When you're doing something that you love to do, it's almost like you've created your own little childhood. I'm not being forced into it and I'm having a great time." - Boston Globe, October 30, 1994

"I'm not on drugs. I'm not an alcoholic. I've just got incredible people backing me up...I wouldn't even think about taking drugs. I think it's ridiculous! I think people are throwing their lives away. River Phoenix was such a talented actor. I would have loved to see him win an Oscar. He so deserved it. Obviously he got mixed in with the wrong crowd. That ruined him. I love life. I've always been this way." - USA Today, November 4, 1994

"I'm not a dark person or anything, but it would be a challenge to be someone who's messed up in the head" - Entertainment Weekly, November 25, 1994

"I enjoy writing, and I know that if I can really focus on that and get some good tuturoing in English, I can be a really good writer when I get a little older. What's more fun than that? It's creating your own world." - Entertainment Weekly, November 25, 1994


BTW, ceefour, Alan Lee drew that sketch of Frodo. I'll see if I have it somewhere.

EVENING ALL!!!!!!!!

Pelagia Great picture both of them!!!!

TG (((hugs)))

Achila,Random Thank you both for the link!!!!!

Honey hope you having a great time!!!! (waiting to hear what you think)


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Lots of great quotes in one place, Achila, thanks. :cool:

Only two complaints:

"... He's very likable throughout, and Mr. Reiner has surrounded him with a good deal of comic relief." -Janet Maslin, New York Times, July 22, 1994, on The War.
...Not to be picky, but I have a feeling this is actually talking about North. :p

And what's with the "17 entries reviewed"? Notice there's no comments on AW, B&W, or TAMTSNBN, although they're on the list -- The wimps :haha: !

On the pencil drawing as screencap: I think I've mentioned before that I tend to get so drawn into the movies themselves that I end up spending my time on them instead of the extras. My RotK "special features" DVDs have yet to make it out of the case :o . Wishing for unlimited time...

Thanks for the Hooligans news, Saile. I'm also hoping Honey enjoys the movie and just has an altogether great time at the festival.

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RL rambling and complaining (to end of post :rolleyes: ):

Just found out yesterday morning that I'm moving again--tomorrow :eek: ! I knew it was coming, but I didn't know when. (I don't know if I ever mentioned here that two weeks after I moved to a different apartment at management's request, because they wanted to remodel the end of the hall where I was living, they announced that the entire building is going condo. Someone's just asked for my "location," so I'm out.) Technically, I have 30 days to move, but the maintenance guys are set to help me with the big pieces at 7:30 am tomorrow morning. Moving won't be as big a packing job as it was last time, as I hadn't finished settling in when the condo thing was announced. I pretty much stopped unpacking at that point, so a lot is still in boxes. But it's going to be more difficult in that I'm going to a different building. Only about a half-block from here, but I'm not sure how we're going to accomplish it. Hopefully the maintenance guys will have some ideas. (And I'll be changing addresses and all the fun stuff that goes along with that, which I didn't have to do when I was just changing floors.)

So, anyway, with an overwhelming amount of stuff to do before 7:30 am tomorrow morning, I naturally haven't done any of it... :rolleyes: It shouldn't take too long for me to get ready for the movers, though, and that may be all I worry about today.

I'm not sure how my internet access will be for awhile, with moving and activating the phone line and all. I've been working on the website quite a bit, but haven't been able to publish anything because I haven't heard back from my webhost yet on resetting my passwords for the new computer. I was probably too honest when I sent my request at "average" priority. Last I checked, it was still on hold. I have learned a new Paint Shop trick to show off ;) , and am thinking about some different ideas for the site.


-------It was nice to hear from other introverts here. :) I'm an INFJ, so all these loose ends are driving me bonkers. I hope after this move I can actually settle in somewhat.

Aww, tg! You have to move -- and so suddenly! :( :confused: Good luck keeping up your energy (and sanity) as you go into the fray. :k

Best wishes,

~ Mechtild (I N F/T P) :p

Thought I was coming back in to edit my post, but Mechtilde beat me to it . :p Thanks for the kind thoughts.

When I closed out of Explorer just now, I was reminded--again :rolleyes: --that I keep forgetting to mention that I now have the picture of the two Jonathans as my home computer wallpaper. They're both so darn cute that I hate to open any programs. :D (I have my hobbit angel on my office computer--of course, no one else realizes that it's a hobbit angel. ;) )

tg, good luck with your move. Hopefully, all will go smoothly and any problems will be minor. If not, remember VM's motto (which you'd know if you'd watched the documentaries :haha: ), "Adapt and overcome!" Wish I could help, but you're way over there, and I'm here!

I was watching the documentaries in preparation for being a complete veg and viewing all the EEs straight through as the one massive movie it is. (Circumstances have altered that plan, however.) But I am reminded when watching these documentaries, why this movie is so wonderful. I've finished Tolkien on Film and, in the end, it doesn't really matter about the critics. I understand the criticisms, but it doesn't change my love for the films. Now, on to Unsung Heroes of LOTR.

Patiently awaiting Honeyelf's review of Hooligans and EW.

Achila, thanks for the link.

Hi to all The Faculty!

C4

Achila: Thanks for the critical raves from that website. What does an average rating of “4,00” mean (i.e., what’s the range)? Whoever summarized his strengths -- Charisma, natural presence, emotional depth certainly got it right! I thought that one of the most perceptive comments (and one that applies to so much of Elijah’s work) was from the Boston Globe’s review of The War: Wood acts so eloquently with his sentient face and searching eyes that his job becomes one of concealing how redundant his spoken lines are That reminds me of the All I Want reviewer who said something about how Elijah almost didn't have to say anything, because you could tell just from his face what he was thinking and feeling.

ceefour: The picture of brooding Matt seemed very large at first, so I edited it to make it smaller. But then it came out too small, so I edited it again, back to the original size.

BTW, I just bought the soundtrack to Sin City. It’s a far cry from Howard Shore, of course – dissonant and jazz-flavored -- but very evocative of the film. I hadn’t realized that Rodriguez composed some basic themes, and wrote most of the music for “That Yellow Bastard” himself, and then hired two other composers to work on each of the other main segments (“The Hard Goodbye” and “The Big Fat Kill”). As a result, the music for each segment has a slightly different “feel.”

tg, good luck with your move. What a pain, to have to be so unsettled! You need to find a nice, warm hobbit-hole to curl up in.

{{{TG}}}

And ceefour, here's the pic you asked for:

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Sorry it's not bigger!

Yep, I too am someone who cherishes alone-time. My mother is visiting for the weekend and I can't wait to take her home later. Not that I don't love seeing her, but having someone around who needs to be constantly entertained is very wearing to me, and that cuts into my web surfing/writing/etc., activities!

It' funny, and nice, and curious to hear that there are other faculites who share the need for a lot of alone-time. I think it might have something to do with the fact that a lot is going on on the inside. I meet a lot of people through work, and there are days when I literally have to lock myself in the bathroom at work just so as to be alone for a bit.
Do you people consider being here for instance as being "alone"? I find it very sociable, in a nice introverted kind of way... Like enjoying the comfort of being alone, without running the risk of feeling lonely.

(((TG))) my thoughts and what little energy I have is with you :k


That reminds me of the All I Want reviewer who said something about how Elijah almost didn't have to say anything, because you could tell just from his face what he was thinking and feeling.

Precisely why I love that movie...and always lovely to see that face :D mini swoon there
(((Achila.)))..thanks for finding that sketch...it's a great one!
time spent with elderly parents are always a challenge no matter how much we love them!

Hope you ladies don't mind; I'm giving everybody pretty much the same report; the little petitions "cabal", and anybody else who asks. Here it is then!

In the hours since 6:00am, Saturday May 28th I have: been in four busses, two trains, and two taxis; slept a total of 2 hours; seen one petty good movie, one dreadfully bad movie, and one very good movie; shook hands with Lexi Alexander twice; been profusely thanked by Lexi Alexander; and discomfited the smallish actor accompanying her!

Late in the afternoon of Friday May 27th I was charged with hand carrying hard copies of of both petitions to Ms. Alexander. I spent the rest of the afternoon and evening working out the various glitches that hindered me in this task. To Gwen, Joannie, John and the rest of our little “firm” involved in the petition efforts, I quite simply did not have the time to winnow out the names of the non-American signatories. I got to bed at 12:30am, and was up again at 5:30 just to make it to make it to my train, and it just didn’t happen. I sorted the names so as to make the removal of those from foreign shores simpler, but that is all I could manage, and that with the help of my very gracious husband.

After hours of travel by bus, and rail I arrived in Los Angeles at 4:15PM, and was at the LA Femme Film Festival by 4:30. It was not at all what I had pictured! The venue was quite small for a public space, roughly the equivalent of two largish living rooms. There was a standard sized folding table, such as one might find at a church potluck, stacked with a variety of brochures. About four young women in their twenties to thirties presided over the goings on from behind it.

I introduced myself to a young woman named Erin, and requested my festival badge. Right away she was somewhat baffled, inquiring if I was from the press? Or was I perhaps from the film school? I replied that neither was the case. They seemed startled that I would purchase a pass to the event as an ordinary citizen and film-buff. Hmmm, interesting! I told her I’d purchased it on line, and that it permitted me access to all the films shown. She gave me a pass, which I realized briefly afterward was a VIP pass allowing me access to all the events, including the parties. I didn’t bother to inform her of her error, thinking it might come in handy at some point.

I asked Erin if Deborah del Prete of Odd Lot Entertainment (the Hooligans production company) was there yet? Miss del Prete was the person to whom I was to pass the petitions. She was not yet in attendance, but I was told that she would be coming later.

The current screening ended and festival attendees began to emerge into the lobby. The crowd was light compared to later in the evening, but the small area was already becoming somewhat crowded, and I realized that there was really no convenient place for me to solicit signatures on the petition without being in the way. Further, wherever I stood, I was going to appear to be part of the official goings on by sheer dint of proximity to the front desk. It seemed only polite to ask where I might stand to pursue my efforts.

I told Erin about the petition, explaining our goals briefly. She responded that she’d have to ask Leslie about gathering signatures on the premises, however Leslie was in a meeting. Perhaps I’d like to go into the theater and enjoy the next showing, and she’d have Leslie talk to me after.

The “pretty good” film came first. The theater is 400 seats, and about a third of them were occupied for the screening of The Colt, directed by Yelena Lanskaya. It’s a made for TV film, for Hallmark Hall of Fame I think. The story of a company of Union soldiers during America’s civil war, and an unexpected “recruit,” it was touchingly sweet and slightly improbable at once. If you happen to catch it some night on the small screen, I’d say it’s worth the time to watch.

Dashing out of the theater just before the end of the film, I located Erin again and she introduced me to Leslie La Page, founder of the LA Femme Film Festival. She is a small woman and listened sympathetically to my needs at first. She talked about how much they like the film, and gtheir desire that it get distribution.

As she talked I began to suspect that she regarded me as a possible nuisance, and was trying to gently discourage me from petitioning on the premises. I much prefer to deal openly, and so I asked her, would it be alright if I petitioned for Hooligans ultimate distribution, as it mightn’t hurt? She said, in not so few words “no.” She did however tell me that she would introduce me to Deborah del Prete when she arrived, so that I could hand over the petitions.

With nothing to do for the next two hours I went into the next screening. I can’t articulate why but Jacqueline Bisset, Tom Skerrit, and Jonathan Winters are three actors whom I am unable to appreciate. All three of them in one film was almost more than I could bear! I see at IMDB Swing has approximately a two star rating, but I’d give it fewer, and you’d have to prop my eyelids open a la A Clockwork Orange to make me watch it again! Everything about it irritated me, from the apartment decor trying too hard to be hip, to the lesbian roommate played by Mindy Cohn who had to state her aversion to men in every sentence. Jacqueline Bisset played the guardian angel in a low cut red halter dress! Yikes! I stayed just long enough to establish whether Anthony would break it off with his somewhat patronizing fiancée, then fled to the lobby.

There weren’t many people out there, as most had stayed to politely watch the film end and credits, so spotting Lexi Alexander was easy enough. She and another woman, whom I guessed to be Deborah del Prete, were being interviewed on camera.

I found a place to sort of prop myself up near the window, having sat long enough for now. I was keeping an eye on the interview, and trying to make myself available should Ms. La Page decide to introduce me to Ms. Del Prete as promised. Somehow this seemed dim possibility now that Ms. La Page had changed from her hooded sweatshirt and jeans, into a bold evening ensemble of black and lime green. Sure enough, as the theater crowd emerged from the screening into the tiny lobby, Ms. La Page ended the interview and bustled off. Ms. Alexander and Ms. Del Prete (as she proved to be) were engulfed in the crowd, and I gradually eased myself into near orbit, observing their interactions with the crowd.

They both seemed very friendly and approachable, so I tapped Ms. Del Prete on the elbow and introduced myself, saying I was the one with the petitions. She seemed very pleased to see me, and asked if I’d like to meet Lexi Alexander. Of course I replied that I’d love to! Ms. Alexander shook my hand, and seemed very happy to receive both petitions. I told her that the signature total was nearing the 1300 mark. She asked me if I’d seen the film before, and I had to confess that I hadn’t, but said I’d been very intrigued by all the buzz surrounding it, and was really excited to be seeing it for the first time. I then backed of, not wishing to make myself a nuisance.

I was, of course hoping that Elijah himself would appear, and amused myself for the next ten or so minutes by tracking the movements of the two large cameras in the room hoping to see him appear. I’m disappointed that he was not in attendance for the evening.

Later than scheduled we were allowed into the theater. A few people were let in off the street at $10.00 a head, and I silently rued that my own eagerness to see the film, and my planned petitioning activities had prevented me from taking advantage of this relative bargain.

Up until now every film we’d seen that day had been run from a DVD. For some reason Hooligans was presented on film. I don’t know what was going on in the projection booth, but the film was interrupted so many times that I actually lost count, first by a loss of focus, and then by a series of dead halts. The audience would be on the edge of their seats, awaiting the next development, and the screen would go black. We’d sit there in the dark for a few minutes while somebody fiddled around, and got the film going again. Who ever it was up there ‘working’, I like to imagine Lexi giving them a little demonstration of her kick-boxing skills afterwards.

I’ll admit here and now that I still had my lingering doubts about the film. I was worried (oh, my “Faculty Lounge” friends are going to nail my hide to the door for this!) that Elijah would let that slight British twang that Frodo seems to have left him with, reappear, and spoil his believability as a Yank! I was worried that the ending scene would work like an alternate ending to All I Want! I was worried that Matt might resort to fisticuffs in the final scene of the film and ruin the anti-violent message! And worst of all, I worried that after all the effort that went into getting to LA, I’d hate the film in the end. Just me, I do that, and I was a bit frazzled by the end of last week as some of you know.

Doubts and projector malfunctions aside, I absolutley loved this movie! Yes, it is violent and bloody, but in a way that is quite realistic without glamorizing or sanitizing it in any way. all This is a far cry from those old movies where a shirtless Kirk Douglas gave someone a pounding, and emerged no more than a bit dusty, and with a tiny, almost sexy trickle of blood at one corner of his mouth. The makeup artists managed to convey the damage a fist will really do to a face, or as least as close to it as I need to see!

The thing that disturbed me most about the movie was the language. It didn’t approach Ash Wednesday in use of the f-word, and I think Trainspotting beats it out for use of the c-word. But the foul language is pervasive.

The other thing that was a struggle for me was the heavy British accents. When I finally get my hands on a DVD I plan to watch it with sub-titles once so that I can catch the bits of dialogue I missed because of the accents. I didn’t have any trouble following what was going on despite my tin ear for the accents.

If this worries any of you as to the reception for the film by Americans let me tell you about my ride back to the train station. Because of all the technical difficulties, the film got out later than expected and I decided not to try to go the After Hours party. I'm quite shy, believe it or not, and wasn't really all that interested with out the incentive of a pair of big blue eyes. Did I say that out loud?) I ended up sharing a cab with two women who had got into the film the usual way people like us do, by paying their $10.00! One of the things we did on the way was list all the movies we could think of that had made big splashes with American audiences despite heavy British accents. These two women didn't think that was any reason for the film to be held back, and neither do I.

There was one slightly awkward scene where Pete explains to Matt about the firms, but I think that’s really all the explanation American audiences will need to enjoy the movie.

All of the actors were quite good I thought. Claire Forlani’s emotional performance rang very true. Leo Gregory was excellent, managing to make me loath him, and then breaking my heart all in one film! Charlie Hunnam was good, but in that naturalstic sort of way that makes it look as though no actual acting is going on!

And I thought Elijah was excellent as always. I particularly enjoyed the eyebrow acting during the scene in which Matt tries to call his father and gets an answering machine instead, (and not for the first time, that lovely expanse of brow informs us!) I also loved his scenes with Claire, and there was one in particular where I felt he got to convey how much Matt had grown in the course of the film, indeed in the course of a few harrowing moments.

Part of the fun for me of watching any new performance by young Mr. Wood is observing the body language he gives his characters. Matt has a masculine loping stride that reminded me a bit of an adult Stu Simmons, but was another world away from Frodo.

If you have a low tolerance for squee you may wish to skip the following paragraph!

Elijah was simply gorgeous in this role! The way the light pools in his eyes, and seems reluctant to leave! And the scenes where he wears that snug blue knit shirt! And how can anyone so vertically challenged manage to have such coltishly long legs? He threatened to undermine the determinedly unglamorous handling of the violence by still looking beautiful in bruises and scrapes!

OK, I’m better now!

Some have said that they found the end scene in which Matt confronts Jeremy Van Holden to be gratuitous, but I did not. I liked Matt demonstrating the he was not to be messed with, while stopping short of physical harm, and it wrapped up the movies theme nicely for me.

As I found my way out of the theater, I again spied Ms. Del Prete and thanked her for being so welcoming of our petitions. She introduced me as “the petition lady” to the very handsome young man next to her, who turned out to be Terence Jay. He looked stunning in a dark blue embroidered shirt, and with his naturally curly blond hair tamed just enough. I told him that I love his song “One Blood”, and often open the Hooligans website just to listen to it. He replied, “That’s what we like to hear.”

I found Ms. Alexander nearby, told her that the movie had been everything I’d hoped it would be, and thanked her. She said “Oh no! Thank you, very much, for everything you’ve done!” She was very sweet, and gracious. For some silly reason it surprised me that her voice was so soft. I guess I expected someone who could drop kick me down the street to sound a little tougher. She’s also very pretty and petite in person.

My ride home was an adventure with the final bus over-heating and shutting down on the side of the road repeatedly. Somehow we managed to limp in a half-hour early anyway!

And then I get home to find that Ms. Del Prete has apparently sent an announcement to all the Hooligans news subscribers linking my petition! That blows me away, as poorly as I strung the thing together! I guess what counted to the folks at Odd Lot was the number of people who have signed it; you can’t argue with numbers.

Well that’s my little report. Sorry it’s taken me so long to get it together for all of you!

Oh, my favorite tchokes from the film fest is a purple button that says “Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History!”

Yours in unconvential behaviour!

Pamela

Honeyelf - you deserve a medal for action above and beyond the call of duty. I haven't followed the talk about the petition as closely as I might have, and I didn't sign it, since I am in the UK and will get to see the film anyway, but I still feel really moved by the effort you have put into this and the chances you were brave enough to take at the festival.

I had a holiday in Germany half ruined because I was supposed to get people to fill in a questionnaire for my dissertattion and I was so nervous I kept putting it off, which then made me feel guilty, like a failure etc. I bow to you for what you have done on behalf of Elijah fans in the USA.

I can assure you that if the acccents in Hooligans are those of true London thugs, some of us in other parts of the UK may have as much trouble as you understanding them - especially if like me they don't watch Eastenders (a soap opera set in London's East End for those not in the know).

I am counting down the days to Sin city. Do I go alone on Thursday morning to be one of the first in the UK to see it and risk coming up against some wierdos, or do I wait till hubby can accompany me at night. I had been working on a friend with the intention of having her accompany to the morning show, but after she dissed Finding Neverland as a film for kids, I don't know whether I really want her there or not. She owes me one though after I sat through after I sat with her through the 2 hours of trash that was Birth, with Nicole Kidman.

Do you people consider being here for instance as being "alone"? I find it very sociable, in a nice introverted kind of way... Like enjoying the comfort of being alone, without running the risk of feeling lonely.
E, I too find it and very sociable and far from “lonely”. I’m a caregiver for an elderly parent, which keeps me chained to the household except for the most necessary errands. My computer allows me to interact with people who share the same hobbies and interests as me, while still be available for my caregiving duties. It’s been a real life saver.

Honey, awesome report!

(((tg))) Hope things go smoothly for you, dear heart. Come back as soon as you’re able.



And for the birthday girl… :k

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Honey, your report was brilliant! Many many thanks for that great covering :k I'm so glad you liked the film so well.
I can't recall where I read it, but we German Elwood fans must face the likelihood that Hooligans/The Yank/Green Street/*whatever* is going straight on DVD over here... :mad:


It was nice to hear from other introverts here. :) I'm an INFJ, so all these loose ends are driving me bonkers. I hope after this move I can actually settle in somewhat.
Best wishes from a fellow INFJ, Tg! :k - Oh no, another move... hope it goes smooth and without too much ado.

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This energetic guy drops by to wish

A very happy birthday, BLOSSOM!! :k

Happy Birthday, Blossom!

Honey, thank you for that excellent report, and for all your work on the petition, and for your bravery in approaching the people who could actually make a difference in whether we get to see the film! If I ever get to sit in an actual theatre watching this film, I'll know who I have to thank. :k

tg, good luck with your move today. Moving is always so disruptive, and moreso with such short notice. I hope it turns out well for you, and that you're not off-line for long. :)

honey! Thanks so much for the account of your exploits at the film festival. In many ways, your reactions to Hooligans are similar to my own (and Achila’s, I think), although the language bothered us less than it did you. (For us, after a while, it just slid into the background.) The other thing that was a struggle for me was the heavy British accents. Yes, we sometimes had trouble with those, too, even though we both watch lots of imported British TV shows (and even though I’ve stayed in the UK for several periods of time, ranging from 2 months to nearly a year). You really have to pay attention to the dialogue, and even then, it’s hard to catch everything. I particularly enjoyed the eyebrow acting during the scene in which Matt tries to call his father and gets an answering machine instead. That was also one of my favorite scenes. Elijah at his nonverbal best. Matt has a masculine loping stride I hadn’t thought about that until you mentioned it. As I look back on the film, it first became really noticeable (to me, anyway) in that scene where he saunters down the street wearing the navy-blue jacket (see my “brooding introvert” post of a few days ago) for, I think, the first time. This is a very different creature from the rather diffident Harvard kid at the beginning of the film. And the scenes where he wears that snug blue knit shirt! I believe that was the shirt that Achila also loved (though I still prefer the navy blue). Some have said that they found the end scene in which Matt confronts Jeremy Van Holden to be gratuitous, but I did not. No, and once again, it offered an opportunity for Elijah to show how much he can convey, in just a few seconds, without saying a word.

What was the audience's reaction to the film, apart from the two women you already mentioned?

The US distribution situation certainly sounds more encouraging than it did a few months ago. whiteling: Is there really a chance that the movie might go straight to DVD in Germany? I don't remember hearing that before.

Eandme wrote: Do you people consider being here for instance as being "alone"? I find it very sociable, in a nice introverted kind of way... Like enjoying the comfort of being alone, without running the risk of feeling lonely. I think of The Faculty Lounge as being more like a common room in a college dorm. I can drop in, have some good “conversation” with people who share some of my interests (not so easy to find in the “real” world), and then go back to my own room.

Happy birthday, Blossom! May the “total” of your “requests” be granted in the coming year!

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Happy Birthday, BLOSSOM! :k :k

Keep Cool today!
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Pelagia:
Matt has a masculine loping stride I hadn’t thought about that until you mentioned it. As I look back on the film, it first became really noticeable (to me, anyway) in that scene where he saunters down the street wearing the navy-blue jacket
Yeah, that's where I first noticed it too!
What was the audience's reaction to the film, apart from the two women you already mentioned?
The audience laughed at the funny parts (:D rmemebering those!) and gasped at the shocking parts, and seemed to love it. My two cab mates like it alot, and were recounting their favorite parts on the way back in the taxi.

TG, Good luck with your move. I love fresh starts, don't you? I mean after all the work is done, of course!

I've loved reading about how, for the most part we are introverts in here. I think this kind of forum is probably kind of self-selecting for those more quietly-atuned, don't you? I love seeing my real life friends, but I find talking on the phone with them to be an exhausting and stressful prospect. But coming here is always pleasurable!

I loved being able to share my film-viewing experience with all of you!

Bunnie, thank you for your considerable networking skills in getting the petition out there! I'm gonna hazard a guess, and say that you are probably one of our rare extroverts, am I right?

And thanks to everyone of you who signed the petition! :k :k :k

Still happily buzzing a little from the weekend!

honey!

Honey, what an awesome report! I enjoyed it very very much!! Quite an adventure it was!!!

We've had a garage sale these last two days and I've sold some VHS tapes that I've replaced with DVDs. Needless to say, some are the One Lad's and my daughters and I share a smile when someone buys them. :)

Happy Birthday Blossom!

tgshaw, I understand how you feel moving. Fortunately, I have until June 30th to be out. It's the same with you, expected but unexpected as to when I would be told. I'm ready for a change of scenery though. And speaking of scenery changes, the girls and I leave for Florida in just 24 hours. They've never seen a palm tree. This is going to be fun!! I'll see you all in a week or so! Enjoy!!!

Oh, Honeyelf--thank you, thank you, thank you for your wonderful report and your bravery (yes, I'm shy enough to call this bravery) in presenting your petition and meeting Lexi Alexander. I'm really proud of you, and I hope your efforts will pay off. I personally think the One Lad owes you a "thank you" as well--and if he does, you had better tell us all about it! ;)

Happy birthday, Blossom, and

TG, good luck with the move. I both like and hate moving. The day after unpacking is finished is usually the only day my house is organized, so there is a certain pride in that.

My chance to see Hooligans on the 17th in Atlanta has vanished. My husband is working out of town that weekend, so neither of us will be able to get away. In fact, I'll probably let the girls have a sleepover that weekend. Perhaps I can talk them into a LOTR filmfest? Doubtful.

Hurray for Honeyelf! Ereshkigal is right; you are brave. Thanks for the great report about your trip and the movie.

Happy Birthday, Blossom!

Achila, thanks for the loverly picture!

Without The Faculty, there would be no one to discuss my EW and LOTR fandom. (I have cousins who are book purists and believe PJ should be tossed into the Cracks of Doom along with the Ring.) So you are all important to me.

C4

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLOSSOM!!!!!!!!

YOU SO DESERVES A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE!!
HOPE YOU LIKE THIS ONE!!!

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pst...check your e-mail!!!!!


HONEY YOU ARE THE BEST A TRUE AMBASSADOR FOR ELIJAH-FANS TO BE PROUD OF!!!!

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORT!!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

C4 waves to wood!

I was cleaning the interior of my van yesterday. Took out the seats, steam cleaned them and the carpets, and scrubbed the floormats. It took about 4 hours (lots of grime from the winter). Anyway, I needed some inspiration, so I put FOTR in the van's CD player. (I have been trying not to listen to the soundtracks, since Achila, Pelagia, and I are attending the LOTR Symphony in the summer.) Young Miss ceefour comes outside to see what I'm up to and hears the music.

'Mommy, not in public!'

:k to the Faculty!

C-an embarrasment to her 8 year old-4

wood waves back to C4!!!!!

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!!

I am an embaressment to my two teenage kids!!!!!!


WOOD

Elijah was simply gorgeous in this role! The way the light pools in his eyes, and seems reluctant to leave! And the scenes where he wears that snug blue knit shirt! And how can anyone so vertically challenged manage to have such coltishly long legs? He threatened to undermine the determinedly unglamorous handling of the violence by still looking beautiful in bruises and scrapes! In this particular case, I love to say I told you so!!!! :lol:

And Happy Birthday, Blossom! Here's a lovely Matt pic, in honor of your special day, and Honey's triumph -- enjoy!
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BLOSSOM!!!

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Heehee, I guess I'm the only one then who doesn't embarass anyone.. Because I'm basically a teenager myself *feels small and insignificant* I went to see Sin City on Friday. The funny thing is..it wasn't Kevin who creeped me out (except for his eyes, those were extremely creepy), but what they said about him. The creepiest moment for me in the entire movie was when that..SPOILER woman who was with Marv talked about Kevin eating his hand /SPOILER. That actually made me sick

Happy Birthday, BLOSSOM!

DJ Elwood to provide the tunes for your celebration:

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Thank you, Honey, for your report about your trip and viewing experience. It's a shame they had so much trouble with the showing of the darn thing! :(


Bunnie, thank you for your considerable networking skills in getting the petition out there! I'm gonna hazard a guess, and say that you are probably one of our rare extroverts, am I right?

You're certainly welcome! I'm still trying to think of places to promote it!

And I'm not so sure about the extrovert thing... In person I'm a bit reserved and slow to make friends, but I have never had any trouble sticking my foot (or my nose :p ) right in there. Email Harry Knowles or Dougie Brimson? No problem -- I'm your gal! But call them on the phone? Er... maybe not. :eek:

Phew!! Just made it by the skin of my teeth :z:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLOSSOM!!

Hope you've had a lovely day :)

Elijah is waiting to give you his gift. Wonder what it is. Could be one of those pink fluffy things suspended over his head. Not sure what it is but I'm sure you'll love it:D

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And ...

WELL DONE HONEY!!

De-lurking with a slice of Ezzie's cake and a glass of Bailey's at hand! :) Well, it IS my birthday!

Ezzie; Whiteling; Narya; Pelagia; Honey; Shelbyshire; (pauses for breath) Ereshkigal: Ceefour; wood (waves! - I'm still working on the gifs, dear :) ) Achila; Bohemian, and Bunnie!!!

Many thanks, ladies for the pictures of the One Lad - all delightfully delicious! - and your kind birthday wishes. :k They are much appreciated.

Thanks for the 'Hooligans' report, Honey. I'm so happy the film - and Elijah - lived up to your expectations. It's good to know that your efforts with the petition seem to have been appreciated by Lexi Alexander. I'm sorry Elijah didn't show up in person. But you met Terence Jay, who sings 'One Blood.' :cool: I love that song!

Tg - I hope your move goes smoothly. Yours too, Shelybshire - and enjoy Florida.

Thanks again.

ETA Shireling just saw your post - Thanks to you too. I hope all is well with you, and your computer. Lovely picture! :)

Way to go, Honey! :D :cool:

I knew Lexi wouldn't kick you at all. ;)

Your report was great. Thanks for doing all that for we Faculty members and all Elijah fans in the US. :)

Wow, ladies! I'm still trying to take it in, this adventure I had. I passed among "industry types" and members of the press I suppose, and film students too, all without getting eaten alive! And I found courage I didn't know I had! I'm proud to have been there to represent us all, and I can't wait for all of you to see Hooligans too!

And I meant to say earlier, Whiteling, that I'm sorry to hear that the film won't be on the big screen in your little corner of our dear home here. Here's a standing invitation to anyone at any time: you can come to my house and we'll watch any 'Lijah film we want on my largish screen! It's bigger than Lij's ;) and in a dark room, if you pretend, it's almost like the theater experience.

I read "The Lovely Bones" on my trip, filling time on all those various conveyances. Came across this passage which reminded me of someone in all but the particulars. Almost like the author is trying to explain 'the glow.': ;)

"In just a few short years Ray Singh grew so handsome that a spell radiated from him when he walked into a crowd. His adult face had still not settled on him, but, now that he was seventeen, it was just around the corner. He exuded a dreamy asexuality that made him attractive to both men and women, with his long lashes and hooded eyelids, his thick black hair, and the same delicate features that were still a boy's."

That's PJ's next movie project, isn't it? Has he cast it yet? I can imagine him saying to Fran and Philippa. "So basically we need someone who's got magic!" :)

Elijah was simply gorgeous in this role! The way the light pools in his eyes, and seems reluctant to leave! And the scenes where he wears that snug blue knit shirt! And how can anyone so vertically challenged manage to have such coltishly long legs? He threatened to undermine the determinedly unglamorous handling of the violence by still looking beautiful in bruises and scrapes!
In this particular case, I love to say I told you so!!!! :lol:

Achila, I'll let ya say "I told you so" about this quite happily! :D

honey!

ETA: I found this really cool picture at a web site called FrodoForever.com. I think it's from the RoTK DVD extras, and I had to lighten it a bit. Enjoy!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/camerainme37b.jpg

:lol: Zounds! It was good to see so many faculty friends posting. Random, thanks for the link and info on the Hooligans.

Tg, good luck on your move…...sending peace thoughts your way.

And honey…..”WELL DONE!!!!!!! ”. I can’t image it going better!!!! ……well okay the one lad could’ve been there, and the film could’ve worked flawlessly but those were way beyond control. I’m not only impressed I feel PROUD. And your petition is linked on their web site. How COOL is that!

And your report was so much fun to read. It was like being there. Thanks so much. :k

Interesting discussion on introverts/extroverts and this site. Adding my 2 cents, I do lots of phone work, occasionally meeting the people I work with. When I do, it is really awkward at first. I really know them better on the phone than in person. I almost have to turn my head so I don’t see them to “connect”. So I am used to knowing people “long distance” so to speak. So coming here is fun and not work,..... in fact A LOT of FUN.

. And I thought Elijah was excellent as always. I particularly enjoyed the eyebrow acting......
Part of the fun for me of watching any new performance by young Mr. Wood is observing the body language he gives his characters. Matt has a masculine loping stride that reminded me a bit of an adult Stu Simmons, but was another world away from Frodo.
I am so hoping we get that chance to see young Mr. Wood's body language on big screen!!!

cheeers!
saile (I/N/T/P)

Just time before work to upload a (belated :o ) present for Blossom's birthday. Not very festive, but kind of fitting the Hooligans discussion, how about a particularly brooding Sean?

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/LaterxMovies/.cap5246-85-aged.jpg

And to balance that off and make up for being late, a birthday party Fro -

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/Fellowship/cap1046-85-neon.jpg

Can't leave without three (four, five...) cheers for Honey! :cool:

I hope to be back later, posting from the office, if I have a chance.

{{{Faculty}}} :k

Happy Birthday Blossom


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/ylla/cap259.jpg

Lij rushes in to celebrate with you....you'll forgive him if he's late...won't you?


Great report Honey Thanks

honeyelf: Interesting quote from The Lovely Bones. Though I wouldn’t describe Elijah at age 17 (Casey-era??) as exuding “a dreamy asexuality.” "A dreamy androgyny," perhaps; but that can be very sexy.

TG GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR MOVE!!!!! :k :k

YLLA GREAT TO "SEE"YOU!!!
were did you found that photo?????


WOOD

Uh, I'm late, but I'd like to thank Achila for the gorgeous Alan Lee Frodo drawing! Lovely. It looks like a combination of a young Alan Lee himself with Elijah.


And I meant to say earlier, Whiteling, that I'm sorry to hear that the film won't be on the big screen in your little corner of our dear home here. Here's a standing invitation to anyone at any time: you can come to my house and we'll watch any 'Lijah film we want on my largish screen! It's bigger than Lij's ;) and in a dark room, if you pretend, it's almost like the theater experience.


Well, as far as I can tell, I read the remark on a possible DVD release on some German message board, so it was nothing what has been officially stated... so "there is still hope" :z:. But it IS sometimes very frustrating to have no prospect of seeing *certain* films on big screen or to have starting dates postponed overnight. Just lately the German release date of Sin City has been postponed to August 11th! In other words, we Faculty mooters can chuck away our original plan to watch this movie together in June :rolleyes:. Oh well. Thanks to Elijah's extensive oeuvre we won't lack something, but yet... it's annoying. That said, I'm very much looking forward to meeting Wood, Serena and Skater girl :). Woo-Hoo!
And Honey, that's quite an invitation :D. Who knows... maybe some day I'm knocking at your door. Gemini people are rather fond of travelling :p.
The web-wrapped Frolijah picture is great. He looks so content with his situation :D

Tg, lovely paint shop jobs, mmmh (the Sean one looks like a painting). :)


Btw, did you know - today is World Non-Smokers Day.
!Elijah! - attention please -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Elijah-Wood_caricaturebylisa.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/no_smoking.jpg


And don't you use this as excuse!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Pengiun_cigarettes.jpg

:mad: :D

Whiteling, i`m to realy looking forward to met you three

ladies!!and as you sade there are planty of elijah-material to lean

back on!!! and maybe some suprises too!! ;) ;) :) :)


Hmmm, for some reson i diden`t know it was that day today!! :cool: :p :rolleyes:


WOOD

Whiteling, did you do that 'Lijah characiture? It's the best one of him I've seen so far! Very funny! And regarding that picture of Sean, It would be fun to see you draw a Lij character other than Frodo! Not that any of us would say 'no' to more Frodo! :D

Pelagia:
Interesting quote from The Lovely Bones. Though I wouldn’t describe Elijah at age 17 (Casey-era??) as exuding “a dreamy asexuality.” "A dreamy androgyny," perhaps; but that can be very sexy.

I sort of took her use of the word 'asexuality' to mean that Ray looks above worldly concerns, perhaps a little 'ethereal', or 'innocent' in the way Frodo can look. (Y'know, like on those rare days when youngish Elijah makes you feel kinda protective and maternal? Right? You have those days occassionally, right? :D ;) :haha: ) Or maybe Ms. Sebold just misplaced her thesaurus that day, and had called on "Shapka" Alex to help her out! :lol:

honey!

ETA: Whiteling, love the penguin on the pack of ciggies! :rolleyes: Meant to mention that one of the things that I disliked about Hooligans was having to watch Lij smoke so much! :mad: :(

Honey, I wish I did that Elwood caricature :cool:! No, no, I found it here: www.caricaturesbylisa.com. There you can see many other great portraits ;). She did our Lad twice, here's Lij, the older:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/ElijahWoods_caricature_colour.jpg


As for drawing another Elijah character than Frodo - yes this thought already crossed my mind. .... Kevin??!! :eek: :lol: NOOO! Time will tell...

Ladies, in my LA Femme report I ill advisedly posted the name of the distribution company looking to distribute Hooligans. I've since removed that reference. Here's my request:

Please do not report the name of that distribution company anywhere on the net! If you have already, please go back and remove their name, and any remarks that might lead a clever web investigator to the name of the distribution company.

It might not make any difference at all, but you know what they say; "Loose Lips Sink Ships!" Wouldn't want to jeopardize any deal in the works with our excitement for that very deal!

Thank you!

Resume normal operations! :D

honey!

Those charicatures are amazing!

Honey, I'm starting to feel like we are all Harvey Weinsteins. :cool:

Thanks for the pictures, Tg I particularly love party Frodo! :)

From Ylla Lij rushes in to celebrate with you....you'll forgive him if he's late...won't you?

Of course! As long as he shows up eventually! One can but hope..... :rolleyes: :) Thanks for that, Ylla.

Honey - Love the 'Elijah in the web' pic. What a coincidence - I was screencapping that very clip last night for gifs! :)

Whiteling - Those caricatures! :) I prefer the first one - the second seems a little too exaggerated! But in both Elijah has Frodo's ears???!!! :lol:

Just popping in to answer Wood's question
Got that photo somewhere...someone screencapped from one of the DVD extras...Lij in a motion capture suit...I'm thinking it must be from RotK
Where's Achila when you need her? ;)


Edit to add: knew having 7,178 photos of a certain someone would come in handy...had to break my screensaver into 8 different folders just to control the ability to find a certain photo when I needed it...have looked extensively thru them to try to find the pic of Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. but still no luck.
Ahhh but doing the research is so very pleasant :D

but I'm not obsessed :rolleyes:

Just popping in to answer Wood's question
Got that photo somewhere...someone screencapped from one of the DVD extras...Lij in a motion capture suit...I'm thinking it must be from RotK
Where's Achila when you need her? ;)Actually, she was spending the day with our fellow Faculty member, Pelagia -- but here I am now. That pic is from the Weta Digital segment of one of the Appendix disks of Fellowship.

Me, I’ll probably be busy that weekend buying advance tickets to “Everything is Illuminated,” if only to put a stop to those cannibalistic Elijah Wood nightmares I’ve been having since “Sin City”; but before you make fun of my movie dorkdom, know that you’re just as deserving of a wedgie as I. :D :D :D

From here: http://www.journaltimes.com/nucleus/index.php?itemid=1200

The Hooligans website has updated their "distribution" page:

United Kingdom
Universal International - August 26th

France
Metropolitan - October/November 2005

Benelux
RCV - Sept/Oct 2005

South Africa
Nu Metro - Jan 2006

Scandanavia
Nordisk - Oct 2005

Japan
Wise Policy - Spring 2006

Poland
ITI - Fall 2005

Israel
Lemo - Fall 2005

The Hooligans website has updated their "distribution" page:

*le sigh* But no US distribution yet.

What are those names after the country? Are they distribution companies? Theater chains? Probably the former, right?

*le sigh*

I have to say, I liked that movie so much that I anticipate seeing it again almost more than I anticipated seeing it the first time round!

honey!

What are those names after the country? Are they distribution companies? Theater chains? Probably the former, right? Yes, distribution companies.

I still have hopes for at least a limited release in North America. The petition is still slowly gathering signatures, and I know people who (like me) are still actively promoting it. Speaking of which, it occurs to me that a good target market for more signatures might be groups of Anglophiles. Anyone know of such an online community?

Honey, are you still looking for help with names and addresses of potential distribution companies? I may have some time to do some digging along those lines, if it's still needed.

Honey, are you still looking for help with names and addresses of potential distribution companies? I may have some time to do some digging along those lines, if it's still needed.

Thanks luv, but for now we're biding our time, hoping one of those deals that's being worked becomes fact soon. We feel (the six of us who're working on it) that if we meddle too much we might endanger that. But hold that thought, and if something doesn't materialize soon we'll roll back into high gear.

Watched an interesting movie tonight, furthering my knowledge of Keir Dullea's acting c.v. It was called "David and Lisa" and employed this very stylized sort of acting found in movies of the period, late 60's.

Mr. Dullea had sort of a soft face then, and while he never really reminded me of Lij except in a generalized way, he did remind me of a couple of Elijah's characters. When he was being curt and rebellious he reminded me of McPhee, and when he was being soft and sympathetic he reminded me of Casey in his most vulnerable moments.

Which was fascinating to me. It was such an indication of how Elijah uses his face to deferentiate a character. Again, that ability he has to give each character his own expressions and body language.

Of course maybe all it really means is that I've been watching EW's movies way too often! :rolleyes:

honey!

ETA: Bunnie, I've just e-mailed notice to the British American group on Yahoo.com. I found them by typing "american anglophiles" into my browser window. Can't hurt for you to send 'em a message, too!

I'd search out more of same, but I've just about acheived all out pumpkin-hood, and need to crawl off to bed!

Thank you so much Bunnie for that update!!! :k :k

Now i have something to look forward to this fall !!!!!!!


Thank you so much Ylla !!!!! :k :k :k


Hope everything is okey with the rest of you!!
and waves to all of you!!!!


WOOD

*le sigh*
See, you just never know who you're going to run into here. ;) Another Pepé Le Pew fan perchance? :cool: I get a kick out of him because he reminds me of guys I went to college with. :p

And another quote I liked from the article Honey linked to:
...remember that the Nerd is a highly complex, chameleon-like creature. He has to be, if he ever expects to survive junior high.
(Although I might quibble with the use of "he" :haha: .)

Regarding the section on sports fans, let me say that the Packers are the nerds of sports teams, which is why I love 'em. I don't care that much about football, but I rejoice when the Packers have a good year.

I have to say, I liked that movie so much that I anticipate seeing it again almost more than I anticipated seeing it the first time round!
That's wonderful to hear.

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On the U.S. distribution deal, I can see why the producers and the potential distributors would differ on how quiet to keep things. The more popular a movie's predicted to be, the more clout the producers would have at the bargaining table--it seems to me (being totally ignorant of the process). Notice who's putting a link to the petition on their website. ;) Not that this is a bad thing at all...

TGShaw said: See, you just never know who you're going to run into here. Another Pepé Le Pew fan perchance? I get a kick out of him because he reminds me of guys I went to college with.

Yup, good old Pepé, you gotta love him for his out and out cluelessness. He can't help what he is! ;)

I just noticed your 'Custom User Title,' Deranged but Playful* :D :DI love it!

Editted: Because it just wasn't that funny, you know?

The long-awaited Alan Lee Sketchbook! Coming in October -- 150 b/w illustrations, 20 full color plates:

http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?titleNumber=689736

The “nerds” article that honeyelf linked was entertaining; but what really made me laugh was one of the comments posted in response (by someone named Jay): I liked Sin City but you know you’ve gone beyond run-of-the-mill movie violence [when] you need to use the plural for 'castrations.' BTW, in the absence of any new Elijah movies, I heartily recommend Crash, which I’ve seen twice (including yesterday, with Achila). It’s not for the faint of heart (strong language, racial epithets, etc.), and it does have its flaws (the most-complained-about being the number of coincidences that string the various characters together). But it’s one of the most powerful films I’ve seen in years, with excellent acting (from Don Cheadle, Matt Dillon et al.), beautiful photography, and a great soundtrack that I can’t wait to buy. This is another one that seems to have polarized critics, as Sin City did (though for very different reasons).

whiteling: Great caricatures!

Achila wrote:

The long-awaited Alan Lee Sketchbook! Coming in October -- 150 b/w illustrations, 20 full color plates:
Oh Achila, what news! Thank you for posting that! :z:

I adore Alan Lee's work. I hope it includes that sketch of Frodo posted up there somewhere, which I never have seen before and could not find by Googling it to see if I could find a bigger one. Furthermore, I adore Alan Lee himself, after hearing and seeing him on all those commentaries and documentaries. If I didn't swoon for Frodo I'd be swooning for Mr. Lee, crooked teeth and all.

To my mind, the art he creates, his personal manner and his speaking voice (as well as the thoughts he expresses with it), are all absolutely lovely.

~ Mechtild

http://www.necaonline.com/sincitynews28.html

If you can find it, Lee's Toy Review magazine has Kevin on the cover! He's the "poster boy" for the second series of Sin City toys, which will be available in August. (leestoyreview.com has the issues available for purchase -- 152 isn't on the site yet).

BTW, for those who collect the LOTR action figures, did you know that the Mount Doom Frodo and Sam speak? Frodo says, "I'm glad to be with you, Samwise Gamgee..." and Sam says, "I can't carry it for you..." and "Throw it into the fire!" Amazon.com has them for $6.99 each. Whee -- I bet I wear it out, hitting the button over and over! :lol:

And, even later than everyone else: Happy Birthday, BLOSSOM! :k

Honey, lovely work with the petition. I'm so glad to hear your good words about wanting to see it again. I'm up for viewing it, if it ever comes my way.

Tg, I hope your move is going as easily as it might. Good luck!

I have followed Honey's suit and turned into a pumpkin. But I'm back from vacation, and hope to drop in a bit more often. Cheers, everyone!

Just popping by quickly to let you know that there have been some minor updates to the Everything Is Illuminated (http://www.whoisaugustine.com/who_are_you.htm) website. Have fun poking around! :)

Mariole! I'm glad to see you again! :k Hope you had a good vacation!

Can anyone help me out? I'm looking for an interview Elijah did where he talks about the kind of man he wants to be, his role models, that sort of thing. I thought it was the Parade interview, but I can't even locate that! I think it's the interview where he mentions Steve McQueen, too, but I'm not positive.

It makes me sad that some of these old interview links have decayed. I may have to embark on a little archiving project to grab what's still out there, before it too fades away!

honey!

Now that Sin City is finally being released in Europe, we're getting a chance to see new reviews. Look at this one:

http://www.thelondonline.co.uk/theline/article.php?articleID=360

Notably this:

But the real treats are the villains. Oh, the villains! Powers Boothe and Rutger Hauer couldn't be better cast as a corrupt senator and cardinal. Nick Stahl is vile as the spoilt-brat paedophile serial killer Junior, while lovely little Elijah Wood rips any ideas of Frodo-typecasting to shreds as the chilling, mute cannibal Kevin.Hee hee

Thank you so much Achila !!!! :k :k :k

Can`t wait to July when it hits swedish theaters!!!

Good to see you again Mariole !!! :k


Thanks Bunnie for the update!!! :k

BUT WERE IS GRUMPY ???????

Oh and i mis Moondancer !!!

and anybody else who haven`t been around for a while!!!!

hope you all are okey!!!


WOOD

Oh Dear!
I am probably not going to be flavour of the month after what I am about to write, but I was not impressed with Elijah in Sin City. I went this evening with my husband and we both agreed that we had really enjoyed the film, but just couldn’t be moved to any kind of emotion where Kevin was concerned.

I don’t think it was even a case of being disappointed because the reviews had hyped up his creepiness so much. What I really felt was that if the actor playing Kevin hadn’t once been Frodo, reviewers probably wouldn’t have even bothered mentioning the role. It came across as to me as an in-joke like the one that was being played when Rodriquez cast the little hobbit as ‘The Guy’ in Spy Kids, towering over the other actors.

I would probably need to see Elijah’s Sin City bits again on DVD to confirm whether I missed something, but I didn’t think I saw a smirk on his face at any time, just a deadpan expression that said nothing to me. I think Elijah was a lot creepier at the end of ROTK, when he says ‘The ring is mine’. He certainly won’t be giving me nightmares in the way that Benicio Del Torro’s talking corpse will. Gore and violence I can take in bucketfuls, but that really freaked me out, and will revisit me in quiet, lonely moments late at night.

I am so hoping that Hooligans does turn out to be the performance I am waiting for from adult Elijah. I haven’t really been overwhelmed with any of his post-LOTR performances, and I almost fear that with adulthood, as his awareness of himself and the world around him grows, he is losing some of that innate instinct that gave his earlier performances such depth and soul.

I am still very pleased that once again, through following Elijah’s career, I have been led to an enjoyable, different film that took me a step away from my comfort zone. I have never watched any of these gratuitously violent films before, and I do find it a bit worrying that, while the majority will take for the fiction it is, there are people out there who will want to play it out for real, and will be influenced into believing they, like the main characters, can’t easily be killed.

I’m sorry to not be able to be more positive about Elijah in this film. I almost feel like a traitor to the camp.

Thanks, Achila, for the UK link on Sin City. The online review by the UK's Empire magazine (they give it four stars out of five) had only the following comment about our man: . . a ghastly cannibal (a blank-faced, wordless, far-from-Frodo Elijah Wood The Times of London also gives the film four out of five stars, but no mention at all of Elijah. :mad: [pouts]

What you said, Skater Girl. :D

I already wasn't the Flavour of the Month. ;) I ain't sayin' he didn't do his job just fine in Sin City, but it didn't seem like much of a job to me, that's ll. More like rolling' off a log for a whiz kid like EW.

~ Mechtild

To tell the truth, Skater Girl, I didn't find Kevin scary or creepy either, but I think that for me, it's that he's onscreen for such a short amount of time, and I couldn't get beyond the "omigod, it's Elijah...pant pant pant..." stage that I have to overcome when seeing him in something new for the first time. That's usually like 5-10 minutes for me, which is just about as long as his Kevin bit lasts. BUT...that being said, I did LOVE the physicality of this role for him, the high flying kicks, the catlike grace with which he crouched and sprang etc etc. No, it's not a triumph of acting for him, yet I bet he got as much mileage out of this little role as Frodo!

No, it's not a triumph of acting for him, yet I bet he got as much mileage out of this little role as Frodo!
Sad but true, I fear, Achila. Yes, he was quite the thing, doing his wire work. He would have made a swell Peter Pan when he was young. Even better than Mary Martin. I'd love to hear and see him do, "I Gotta Crow".

~ Mechtild

I'd love to hear and see him do, "I Gotta Crow".
Now I've got a grin on my face a mile wide. :D

I'd love to hear and see him do, "I Gotta Crow".
:confused: :confused: :confused: What is "I Gotta Crow?"

Skate, Kevin was really more of a cameo, and I was a dissapointed at the brevity of his appearance too.

Part of me (a very dark part) still wants to see how Kevin lured those women close enough in to take a bite in the first place! Did he lure them in with his sweet face? Surely there'd have been no sport it knocking them over the head and just dragging them off. But I guess Mr. Miller didn't draw it, so we didn't get to see it.

I'm just guessing based on my own observations here, but what I noticed that set Kevin apart from Elijah's other roles was how quiet he was. I don't mean that he had no lines. His "sentient" face (as that one critic called it) was so still. As expressive as his eyes can be, they were dead, and that's what creeped me out more than anything, especially coupled with that creepy little smile.

Of course all that was in the brief few seconds that he was holding still. :D

And, like Achila says, that it was really an "action" role probably explains why it got so much notice. Hey, most of the notice was positive and I'm not going to complain! I think it was so commented upon because it was such a contrast to Frodo. As the kid at church said to my husband, "It was creepy watching Frodo's head being carried around!" :eek:

honey!

ETA: "I Gotta Crow" a song from Peter Pan! Yeah, too bad he's a bit old for that! ;) Guess this is as close as we'll ever have got!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/peterpannot.jpg
Heh-heh! Any excuse for a pitcture! :D

Skatergirl

Don't worry. I found the role too brief to be worth much, and the one gasp I had for the character (spoiler follows--hilight to read) is when we see him when we don't expect to--in the Bruce Willis story.
Who said it was a cameo, essentially? Wasn't that honeyelf? Probably the best description.

But hooray for you for going outside your comfort zone. I left mine a long time ago and have never missed the place, thank you. It smelled of cheese and stale beer.

And leaving it for Elijah is better news yet.

Hi all!

I was lucky enough to see a preview of Sin City yesterday with lots of young strapping lads who all wanted to see Jessica Alba doing her sexy dance - no need to hide my Frodo love there!

some vague spoilers follow

I loved the film to bits, it was so exhilarating to watch and pretty to look at. Couldn't help swooning at Clive Owen and his dodgy accent and loved all the funny bit-characters.

I can see what the Faculty means about Elijah's performance and the astonishing astonishment by some critics that The One Lad is not ACTUALLY Frodo and can play different characters occasionally. :rolleyes:

However I still thought it was pretty good. My reaction ranged from 'Yay, it's Elijah! I hope we see lots of him' to 'Crikey, he's repulsive. I hope Marv beats him up good and proper, the scary-eyed freak.' :D

I will have to review the flick a few times to make sure, of course!

Am also looking forward to watching an EW flick in which I don't feel embarrassed to fancy the fellow. :)

From Random:
I was lucky enough to see a preview of Sin City yesterday with lots of young strapping lads...

Hey, sounds like a good enough reason to see a movie right there :p .


Kevin didn't creep me out--there just wasn't time for me to forget it was Elijah, and maybe I'm just getting to recognize him too easily to forget it instantly. (I even come up with an occasional near EJW sighting when I'm looking at Frolijah lately :eek: !) But if he takes roles where he can learn something, I'll bet he did working on that one, most of it not visible on screen--and most of it probably not related to acting, but useful if/when he directs and produces.

I got a :D out of RR's comment to Elijah that he hadn't realized Kevin was such a physical role--almost apologizing for giving him something "too difficult." I've just finished my Casey Connor as action hero series (now if I can just get access to my website so I can publish something), and all I could think when I read that comment was "What the #%$! was RR looking at during those scenes? Did Elijah just make it look too easy?"

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While I was writing that last paragraph, one of the workmen barged through my door (the chain lock is a casualty) because the management had told him I'm all moved out and he should start remodeling the apartment for the condo. The maintenance guys moved all my big furniture yesterday, but that doesn't mean I'm moved, FES--and management knew that! (I legally have a month from last Saturday to get moved but they're in a hurry.) So many people moving at once here that I've had the cart I'm using "cart-napped" twice from right outside my door; the workman said he'd try to find one for me, so I supposed I should get ready to use it.

Had a better look yesterday at the apartment I'm moving into. The best description is "It has possibilities." It's in an older building, and I like that character, but it needs a lot of help. So I'll have to decide if I'm staying long enough to put the time and effort into fixing it up. I'm not too happy with these people at the moment, but moving into their nearby building was the quickest and easiest solution. (I was getting over my feeling of being used right up to the moment my door got busted in.)

So 'bye for now.

Kevin didn't creep me out--there just wasn't time for me to forget it was Elijah, and maybe I'm just getting to recognize him too easily to forget it instantly.Which is basically the same thing I said above. Yep -- this' becoming a bit of a liability. It's a good thing we have movies coming up where he has substantial roles!

I got a :D out of RR's comment to Elijah that he hadn't realized Kevin was such a physical role--almost apologizing for giving him something "too difficult." I've just finished my Casey Connor as action hero series (now if I can just get access to my website so I can publish something), and all I could think when I read that comment was "What the #%$! was RR looking at during those scenes? Did Elijah just make it look too easy?"And perhaps he's forgotten that Casey was a pretty physical role as well???

Had a better look yesterday at the apartment I'm moving into. The best description is "It has possibilities." It's in an older building, and I like that character, but it needs a lot of help. So I'll have to decide if I'm staying long enough to put the time and effort into fixing it up. I'm not too happy with these people at the moment, but moving into their nearby building was the quickest and easiest solution. (I was getting over my feeling of being used right up to the moment my door got busted in.) That sounds promising, tg, glad to hear it won't be too bad a transition. As for me, my complex remodeled my kitchen yesterday so I'm still buried in cans and pots and so on, putting everything away. My place looks like a supermarket exploded! Now if only they'd do my bathrooms....

Have any of you seen this message on the IMDb boards? (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385002/board/thread/19881005) It's a message from Lexi Alexander herself! With some very interesting things to say.

I am going to quote the most relevant parts, just because, well... it made me squee:



Yesterday at the La Femme festival I met a lady named Pam who started a petition. I just looked through the envelope she gave me with all the signatures and I am so touched. This is so amazing. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Well, the film will have a huge release in the UK on August 22nd. The marketing people for Universal are really genius. I just saw the trailer for the first time and it's pretty damn hot. I am also pleased to be back in London to shoot my next movie and therefore able to personally participate in all the PR.

The entire cast will unite for the London premiere and this will be the first time all of us will be together since the shoot. The lads, Claire and myself are really looking forward to it.

As for US distribution...well, let's just say things are happening. I can't really be spilling the beans yet, but, the future looks bright.

Keep the faith, Stand your Ground......


Again,
thank you for all of your support. It is deeply appreciated.

With Love & respect,

Lexi Alexander



:D :D :D

honeyelf wrote: Part of me (a very dark part) still wants to see how Kevin lured those women close enough in to take a bite in the first place! Did he lure them in with his sweet face? Well, that was more or less how Ted Bundy managed to lure all those women he murdered over the years. He was a handsome guy. Of course, the original Kevin (as drawn by Miller) isn’t nearly as sweet-faced. I think Elijah's Kevin is an improvement -- and I do find him creepy, mainly for the reasons that honey mentioned.

Achila wrote, about Rodriguez: And perhaps he's forgotten that Casey was a pretty physical role as well??? Not to mention Frodo! All that running, and staggering, and falling down, plus fights with Gollum et al.

Random: Glad to hear that you loved Sin City. (I’m not sure what some of the other post-ers thought of the movie as a whole, apart from Elijah.) I agree that it’s “exhilarating to watch.” And there’s absolutely nothing else out there that’s anything like it.

From the Guardian’s review of the film (they gave it 3 out of 5 stars): . . . she [Goldie] is killed by a psycho with a disturbing resemblance to Spiderman's alter ego, Peter Parker Oh, dear. More confusion for the people who for some reason have trouble distinguishing between Elijah and Tobey. ;)

BunnieBugs: Thanks for the Lexi link. That was very nice of her to mention honey. She introduced Hooligans when Achila and I saw it at Tribeca, and she seemed like a very down-to-earth sort of person. Sounds as if the US may yet get to see it! :z:

SkaterGirl, a different opinion is good! It leads The Faculty to interesting places.

tg, your new apartment is older with character? Maybe a college student, dragging a huge suitcase, will move in next door. I'm surprised you can still type after that workman unexpectedly crashed through your door; that would have scared scared me witless.(Faculty members nod to one another; so that's what happened to her.)

Achila, thanks for the news about the Alan Lee book. (Young Miss ceefour really won't need new school shoes in the fall.)

Is Kevin in the book that is the basis for the next Sin City?

BunnieBugs, thanks for the post about Lexi Alexander. It is sounding promising about a US release. Another hurray for Honeyelf!

C4 waves 'Hi' to the rest of The Faculty!

Is Kevin in the book that is the basis for the next Sin City?Actually, no. Of course, Marv did away with Kevin at the end of their story together so that's the end of him, but since Frank is writing a backstory for Hartigan, you never know what might be in store for Kevin too.

Is Kevin in the book that is the basis for the next Sin City?Pretty sure that Kevin doesn't appear in any other Sin City book. I haven't read them all, but that is what I've heard. Too bad, but I'm not terribly disappointed -- Elijah's been there, done that, you know? I'm actually more disappointed that Rodriguez is making more Sin City films; I would have thought that he would have felt he had "been there, done that" as well, and quit while he was ahead. But, he was soooo happy with the first one that it was probably just too hard to resist.

Me? I'm still waiting for that sequel to The Faculty. :p ;)

Well, the film will have a huge release in the UK on August 22nd. The marketing people for Universal are really genius. I just saw the trailer for the first time and it's pretty damn hot. I am also pleased to be back in London to shoot my next movie and therefore able to personally participate in all the PR.

The entire cast will unite for the London premiere and this will be the first time all of us will be together since the shoot. The lads, Claire and myself are really looking forward to it.


Please do any of you know how one goes about getting tickets to film premieres. This film comes out just before my birthday, so I have a really good excuse to have a short vacation in London, and I would love to be able to go along, preferably with some fellow Faculty members.


What I really liked about Sin City was the way it was filmed. So many films today have unnecessarily eratic, flashing camera work, and this often gave you what seemed like loads of time to really look at and consider what was on the screen. I found it very interesting to read in today's Guardian review that guest director Quentin Tarantino's scene (with Clive Owen in the car) was the only one that freaked me out. I haven't seen his other films, but I know he has quite a reputation for wierd stuff.

If you think Clive owen has a dodgy accent, go see Cinderella Man. I haven't seen the film, but from the clips I've seen on Leno and Conan's shows, Russell Crowe's supposed American accent sounds hopeless to me.

Bunnie
Well, the film will have a huge release in the UK on August 22nd.

Oh My God... :eek: :eek: :eek:

This just happens to be my birthday :D :D :D
Now if I can only get myself Premier tickets.......and someone to go with :rolleyes:

Skater girl
Please do any of you know how one goes about getting tickets to film premieres. This film comes out just before my birthday, so I have a really good excuse to have a short vacation in London, and I would love to be able to go along, preferably with some fellow Faculty members.
:lol:
Well....great minds really DO think alike !!!

PM me, and I will try and get something together with the other people in London-town....this really is like it's just meant to be, especially as the One Lad sounds like he is going to be in attendance....therefore, we just HAVE to do this !!!

Honey
How utterly LOVELY that Lexi bothered to thank-you for all your hard work and effort getting that petition together, and it sounds like she really appreciated the effort involved...it also sounds like she was somewhat taken by surprise at the sheer number of signatures, and that someone would actually bother !!!
She must be a newcomer to the One Lad Effect ... :cool:

Congratulations, Honey! Good work! I look forward to hearing the Faculty report of the opening, on Lady W's bday. Chance? Naw! :haha:

I never saw SC, so can't comment. But I hope to see Hooligans someday! ;)

Tg, how appalling. I hope your move goes smoother than it seems to be at the moment. Hang in there!

Bunnie, thanks for the heads-up on Lexi's message at IMDB! I'm :D

TG and Achila, I'm with you two. I had a very hard time not thinking "Elijah" instead of "Matt" for some of the scenes in Hooligans. There was even one scene in the pub where they played a snip of a Stone Roses song, and I couldn't help but think of Frodo! And there were lot's of scenes where I kept thinking "Bet Lij loved shooting this scene! Bet Lij really related to Matt in this scene!" I need to be hypnotized or something before viewing all future Elijah films!

TG, hope your moving trials smooth out! Repair men bursting in on you! :eek: Just don't get yerself pepper-sprayed!

My poor wee little GAMG33 car! My daughter drove it to school today, and got rear-ended. She's got a stiff neck and GAMG33 has a mighty beat-up rear bumper! I can't even lock it, because I tried to open the hatch, and now it's stuck unlatched! :( This will be GAMG33's third new bumper, and I've only had it since August of 2003! :eek:

honey!

Thought you all might like to see the latest promo pic from EII:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/eii_promo.jpg

Continuing with the Magritte theme, apparently. And a still that has Sammy Davis Junior Junior in it (just barely):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/eii05.jpg


eeeeeee -- I'm starting to get excited about this one. I really really really hope it's good.

Gosh. In that EII picture, change the suit for a jumper and you almost have Kevin.

Gosh. In that EII picture, change the suit for a jumper and you almost have Kevin.The thought crossed my mind as well. ;) At least here you can see his eyelashes through the clouds, though.

I have my fingers crossed that a trailer will show up soon. :z:

Lady Wendy and Skater girl - Woah! Now that's one birthday present - attending the UK Hooligans premiere with the entire cast present! You lucky girls :)! (And nope, I'm not green with envy... :D)


Bunnie, thanks for those new EII pictures. I'm really curious about this film. I'm one of those who decided to first watch the film and then read the book. Not sure of what to think of Jonathan, though. Judging from what I see in the pictures he seems to be a "very expressed introvert" ;).


Waves to Mariole (how's your neck doing?), and crosses fingers for Tg's move.

HI ALL!!!

Skater girl , Lady Wendy OH.lucky girls!! What a birthday present!!!

Green of envy me ??not at all ,just looking like the hulk!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just kidding i am very happy for you both and anyone else living in the london
area!!!!
I will have to wait untill oct.!!!And i have no hopes that elijah will atend at the premier over here!! :( :( :(

Whiteling You can come and see the movie in my company in a swedish theater!!!! That woulde be great!!!

Waves to all the faculty!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Siiiiiggghhh.

You ladies may have to start a spoiler thread for poor U.S. fans like me, if we don't get distribution soon.

Hello

Delurking to say that I discovered this site only a few weeks ago (via LOTR and TORn) and now it’s the first thing I check when I open up my computer. I read LOTR in the early 60s, didn’t even know there was a film until it opened and I read the reviews, saw FOTR more times than I care to remember. After the 4th or 5th viewing I realised that a certain blue-eyed actor had a lot to do with my love of the film and since then have accumulated a collection of almost every film in which he has appeared.

Saw Sin City tonight, not without a certain degree of apprehension – wasn’t sure if it was my sort of film but as Skater Girl and Ereshkigal said, it’s good to get outside one’s comfort zone. I enjoyed it; it was different but not a film I would bother to see again.

As honeyelf wrote:
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Part of me (a very dark part) still wants to see how Kevin lured those women close enough in to take a bite in the first place! Did he lure them in with his sweet face?

To show that could have been really creepy rather than just slightly creepy. The creepiest Frodo bit for me was in The Two Towers at the Forbidden Pool when he persuades Gollum to follow him.

Bunniebugs wrote

I'm actually more disappointed that Rodriguez is making more Sin City films; I would have thought that he would have felt he had "been there, done that" as well, and quit while he was ahead. But, he was soooo happy with the first one that it was probably just too hard to resist.

You are so right. A good deal of the appeal of Sin City is its novelty.

Skater girl
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Please do any of you know how one goes about getting tickets to film premieres. This film comes out just before my birthday, so I have a really good excuse to have a short vacation in London, and I would love to be able to go along, preferably with some fellow Faculty members.

I too have been wondering how one obtains tickets for a film premiere. Although I don’t live in London, I have been considering going up for the day and watch the actors going in even if I can’t get a ticket myself. It might be the one chance I have in my life to see Elijah in the flesh and it would be great to get together with other Facultyites.

Welcome, Brummie! :D The Faculty Lounge is a wonderful place, and there's always room for a little more.


Brummie wrote:

After the 4th or 5th viewing, I realised that a certain blue-eyed actor had a lot to do with my love of the film...

:lol:

That's how it seems to start. It's very insidious. For my part, I was minding my own business, watching TTT EE and commentaries and out of the blue, BOOM! Put a fork in me, I'm done.

Lady Wendy and SkaterGirl, keeping fingers, toes, and eyes crossed that you can arrange a trip to London. That would be great!

C4

I am having a lovely email correspondence with a young woman who was an extra on the set of EII for a day. However, she has told me a couple of disturbing things about it that may or may not confirm a couple of my worst fears about the film, so I just need to vent.

Of course, this is all speculation at this point, and we won't know until we see it for ourselves, but I just have to talk this out, so bear with me. And I have not read the book myself, and have been avoiding most spoilers, so this is all very non-spoilery.

The first thing she mentioned was sort of a good news/bad news thing regarding Eugene Hutz (Alex): she did not see him, herself, but one of the producers said that Eugene completely steals the show. He was not expected to be as good as he turned out to be (and was, in fact, second choice for the role), since he has no experience working in film. :) So, the good news is that he is apparently wonderful! And I'm sure that you can guess the bad news by now: it's that little thing about "completely steals the show," innit? *sigh*

But, chins up: we know our lad well enough to know that while not everyone appreciates his acting style, he can be counted on for doing a solid job, and at least we can appreciate his performance. Right?

Which leads us to disturbing bit of information number two: after telling me that Eugene completely steals the show (may I stop saying that now, please? :( ), she told me, "Jonathan's facial expressions are always the same - even when he is suprised (maybe his eyebrows move a little bit)." Oh, lordy, here we go again. :rolleyes:

Okay -- she was only on the set one day. Check. It was a funeral scene. Check. She couldn't have been close enough to him to really see his expression that clearly, right? Certainly not close enough to see the expressiveness that we know is so natural in his facial features. I'm sure the camera will pick up a lot more than that. Check. I can't believe that Liev would want a performance from him that was so expressionless as to be nearly flat. I have more faith than that. Check.

And yet, here I sit, mentally preparing myself for all the things that the critics and Elijah-detractors are going to say, and I'm just... I don't know what I am. I was really hoping that we would get Hooligans before EII (and at least in the UK, they will), if only so that the nay-sayers (where Elijah is concerned) would get a taste of the variety that he is capable of. Now... I'm just bracing myself for all the smug ways the reviewers are going to find to say "I told you so."

I'm trying to keep my hopes up about this film, but I can't help but worry, and this stuff isn't helping. I always imagined that Jonathan would be the straight man and Alex would be the comedy. I have no problem with that. But, now, I'm just praying that Elijah's performance is strong enough that we won't be hearing all about how he can't act. Maybe his portion will be the sad, moving, touching part that sticks in everyone's heart when they leave the theatre (and again, I haven't read it, so I have no idea if this is even a possibility).

Anyway. Venting over, I guess. Here is where it would really pay to just be an ordinary fan instead of one who is overly concerned with the success and well-being of one of the actors. :rolleyes: :o Because I do think that it is going to be a good film; it just might not be what I was hoping it would be for Elijah: the sort of role that would really put him on the map because of its range and impact.

Incidentally... I really hope to be proved wrong! :z: :)

BunnieBugs, does your source say anything about how the director was relating to EW during the filming of the scenes she was in?

C4

BunnieBugs, does your source say anything about how the director was relating to EW during the filming of the scenes she was in?Not really -- she mentioned that Liev was concentrating very hard all through the long day, and that he was quite sexy. :D

I don't think she was really close enough to hear how Elijah was being directed, though. And I'm still hoping that it was mostly the funeral situation that was dictating the tone of Elijah's performance.

Hello all--
I'm home for the weekend and missed coming here for my daily dose so very much--the dose of EW..but also of charming conversation.

Welcome, Brummie!! Glad you decided to delurk!!

And Happy birthday (though I know I'm late)--to Blossom.

And I loved Honey's report on Hooligans. Bravo to her for the work she did with the petition!

Bunnie, lets hope that extra was just...extroverted-oriented. Please...
and that the camera work will make a difference. Please Please Please. After everything Liev said about Elijah, I hope he backs up his praise by highlighting him with his directing and editing choices.

Bunnie--one thing to keep in mind about this report on EII is that in one day the cast was probably filming only one or two scenes, and the fact that EW kept the same expression may be an indication of his professional ability (call it ACTING! :rolleyes: ) to do and redo a scene countless times. I remember a report last year about how hard Liev Schreiber was working the cast, which can only mean many takes of a scenes.

Venting is good--but take the remarks with a grain of salt. :)

(Oops, thanks, Alyon.) Happy Birthday, Blossom! :)

Bunnie, thank you so much for that behind-the-scenes snippet. In answer, I'm going to paraphrase Madonna. Yes, I am. :D See, in the movie A League of Their Own, Madonna was a name, not an actress per se. To Madonna's credit, she was completely aware of this. Still, she couldn't help but be a little bit critical of her costar Geena Davis.

"That's not acting!" she kept saying to herself during filming. "She hardly moves! She hardly changes her face! She's just... not acting!" And Madonna was out there acting up a storm.

Then she sees the film in the theatre. With Geena's expressions 20 feet tall. Madonna's gestures were extremely... big, whereas Davis was... engrossing. Madonna kind of sank back in her seat and thought, "Oh, I guess she was acting, after all!" :p

The point of this little story (I forget where I heard it; I definitely did not read it) is that film acting is way different from stage acting. As a neophyte actress, Madonna didn't realize how different. She had to see it for herself on film.

As for Eugene Hutz completely "stealing the show," didn't we also hear that about Charlie Hunnam in Hooligans? Will our H pre-screeners comment on that? I think this observation might be a matter of taste on the part of the viewer, and might not hit everyone the same.

I remember some bid-deal reviewer described Bronson Pinchot as Serge completely stealing the scene from Eddie Murphy in "Beverly Hills Cop". Upon viewing, I had to say, I loved Serge! I agree with the assessment, but BHC is still completely Eddie's movie. When you're playing a straight character to a color character (something Elijah often does, and he doesn't attempt to scene-steal), it's easy to be overshadowed. But what makes the film "work" is the key character. I think producers will be aware of this, even if audiences aren't.

Finally, there are still people who've seen all three LOTR movies, and still think Elijah has only one expression. Like Brummie (welcome, Brummie!) I was completely swept away by Elijah's performance before I knew who he was, or had any kind of vested interest in wanting him to do well. Some people see it, some don't, who knows why. Either this producer or the friend on set might be unable to see what others see very clearly. Probably the film will have mixed reviews when it comes out. It's often the case. Overall, I hope the film is a wonderful success, and if Eugene Hutz helps to make it so, I will be grateful to him.

Whew! I hope this cheers you up a little. I'm getting very psyched! :D

In other news, Brummie, you sound like a Faculty member through and through. Welcome aboard! :)

Whiteling, thank you for your good wishes. I continue to improve. I can't do anything "strong" yet, but I can sit at the computer for a full day, if I take breaks. I really am going slow and steady, and it's seeming to work. I really doubt I'll have a relapse now, unless I stop managing my time very well.

I just thought I'd mention that I'll be in Houston for the LOTR symphony and exhibit July 8-9. I'm meeting an old college buddy there. I've seen the symphony before, but she hasn't, so it sounded like a fun excuse to get together. Does anyone else live in Houston?

Cheers, everyone!

Bunnie, the reports of your "secret source" disturb me, too, but doesn't surprise me. :rolleyes:

Unlike Whiteling, I am reading the book first (given to me as a surprise gift be a VERY lovely EW fan! :k to you-know-who!). I have only a dozen pages to go. I have really enjoyed the book, as a book, and look forward to seeing the film, though can't imagine what the film will be, the book is so idiosyncratic and many-layered.

Spoilers of the book, a little:
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But, the thing that leapt out at me early on in my reading, only to be confirmed now that I am nearly at the end of the book, is how comparatively lack-luster and undynamic the role of Jonathan is. He almost seems more like a plot device than a real character, written to give Alex (the narrator) a reason to be writing his wonderful letters and notes in the first place, or as the impetus for being able to tell the tales of Jonathan's far more fascinating predecessors.

I hope the screenwriters have beefed up the Jonathan role for the film, having hired "a star" to play it, but, as it stands, "Jonathan" really is an inconsequential role compared to the roles of Alex, or Alex's grandfather, or Sammy Davis Junior, Junior, or virtually ANY featured character from the earlier eras. Jonathan's is without doubt a less interesting role for an actor to play, however useful for the plot.

So. If the film is a hit, I will be thrilled. But I will not be surprised if EW's work is overshadowed. Not because he won't have done his job excellently, but because he will not have had the better role. If they follow the book, there is no way it could be the better part.

That's just my opinion, of course. And who am I, anyway? I know, I know.

But I can read a story and see which are the featured roles and which aren't. That's all I'm saying. :(

~ Mechtild

Brummie--welcome, welcome. Your narrative sounds pretty familiar to many of us here, so you are definitely in the right place. And if you read the books in the 60s, well, let's say many of us are about your same age.

You must get tired of me doing this, Mech, but I agree with your book assessment of EII. Alex steals the book, definitely, so the One Lad will definitely be playing straight man, here. Still, if his performance is subtle, I think he is playing to his strengths (think Mikey from The Ice Storm, still one of my favorite Wood characters).

Totally OT here, but I'm thrilled--I'm going to the Atlanta Green Day concert. I haven't been this excited about a group since Pink Floyd was touring.

Everybody do the the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia!

I will be the only overweight, middle-aged woman in the stands who knows every word to every song, but, I left Normal long before Jonathan did.

Tee hee!

Totally OT here, but I'm thrilled--I'm going to the Atlanta Green Day concert. I haven't been this excited about a group since Pink Floyd was touring. I'm going to see them in September! I'm so excited -- I've wanted to see them for years, but didn't have anyone to go with (and I can't imagine going alone). I adore them! I wonder how Elijah feels about them? Just curious.

Mariole, your words are very encouraging. I know, I'm just having a knee-jerk reaction, but this is why I had it here and not somewhere else -- you folks always have wisdom to impart when my emotions are flailing. :k

Peaceweaver, of course, you're right. It may be a very small amount of footage from that day that actually makes it to the screen.

Mechtild, I didn't read your spoilers, but I know that Jonathan is almost a minor character in the book. Remember, though, that this film is based on the excerpt that was published in the New York Times, not on the book itself. (And if I've just said something that doesn't apply to your post at all, just ignore me. :D)

Oh, and welcome, Brummie! I was so busy with the angst-ing that I forgot to be polite. :o

Have to jump in here while the family is calling me to go out to dinner just to say that I LOVED the Jonathon character in EII. I loved him!!!!! That's as much as I can say for the moment without getting my family mad at me for holding them up.
MOstly I loved that the book is full of human puzzles--lots of small pieces that add up not to a "message"--but that in the end say so much, according to what the reader responds most to.

good discussion in the EII thread...

TG--hope your move is going alright!!!!!!!

ETA: mariole--loved the story of Madonna and Gina Davis. How telling....

Brummie, hi! :) (I am mainly a lurker on this thread. :cool: ) I thought your remark,

The creepiest Frodo bit for me was in The Two Towers at the Forbidden Pool when he persuades Gollum to follow him.
...was extremely interesting. Why was that? Because his behaviour looks duplicitious towards Gollum in the film scene? In the book, Frodo tells Faramir that they may shoot him (Frodo), but only let him "go down quietly" to Gollum, in order to get him to come, that he might be taken without harming him. When he does tell Gollum to follow him, Frodo plainly tells Gollum that his life is in great danger and that he must come; desperate, he nearly begs him to come. But book Frodo does not try to humour or cajole Gollum into coming. In the film scene, I thought Frodo spoke to Gollum more like one might trying to get the dog into the car to go to the vet's.

Bunnie, I forgot they are only fiming one aspect of the story. Thanks. :)

Ereshkigal, while I suspect the Jonathan role will still end up being the lesser role, that won't mean that Elijah won't get plenty of professional mileage out of this film, if it is successful. The other actors might get the more enthusiasic acting reviews, but in this role EW might very likely be able to exude TONS of his special charm. Even reading book Jonathan, I could imagine him being a very likeable, appealing screen character. But, as roles go, there is no comparison in terms of complexity and pathos. Still, if he is as likeable and endearing as I hope he will be as Jonathan, EW will definitely boost his box office appeal in this role, which can't hurt a bit getting future roles. To which I say, Woo Hoo!

~ Mechtild

Bunnie, I'm glad I could make you feel a little better. So much is chance in a film, I just have to cross my fingers that it will all come together.

Mechtild, you reminded me that I forgot to comment on the Forbidden Pool scene. I always say this scene as completely adorable puppy-dog Frodo, with his guarded desperation and anxiety to have Gollum come away unkilled. It's interesting how Brummie saw it so differently! :) For a take closer to the book, there's Ian Holm's chilling portrayal in the BBC radio version. In this one, dear Frodo just about loses it-- commanding Gollum to come, and threatening to make the Ring cause him to choke on the bones if he doesn't.

In the BBC version (very close to the book), Frodo is often commanding of Gollum. While I'm absolutely sure that Elijah could have played this as well, I'm not all that sorry to lose it in the film version. Ian played a Ring-crazed Frodo in a different way from Elijah's--both effective, I thought, although I was never reconciled to PJ's shift in the Frodo-Sam dynamic. However, given those characters as PJ played them, I think it would have been a loss of sympathy for Frodo, to show him threatening Gollum, instead of trying to save him. Sigh. There's nothing for it, but to make my own movie. :)

Hi, Alyon! Here's hoping you don't get in trouble with the family. Cheers!

Brummie......WELCOME !!! :D :D

Bunnie, I understand your concern regarding EII. Or I should say I understand how wanting this to be a SUCCESS for Elijah makes me grind my teeth when I hear others seemingly dismiss his acting. The role of Jonathan in this book is not the funny funny role of Alex, but I loved this character. As Alyon says I loved him!!!!! I truly loved the character of Jonathan in this book. It is subtle, but as Ereshkigal says I think he is playing to his strengths. And as Mariole says eloquently So much is chance in a film, I just have to cross my fingers that it will all come together.

This interview with Liev Schreiber from the LATimes January, 2005 was posted here (forgive me, I can't remember who posted it) and I thought it spoke to Liev's respect for Elijah. And IMHO that is an important factor in getting the performance a director wants from an actor.

MAY BE SPOILERS





"Jonathan needed to be someone who, without doing much on the surface, could convey a lot behind the eyes," Schreiber said of the awkward, introverted character, who walks around in an unstylish suit collecting artifacts in Ziploc bags and making notes. "And I really don't think there is anybody in the business with better eyes than Elijah Wood."

But he (LIEV SCHREIBER)was full of energy on the set, betraying his obsession with the acting process by jumping up at the slightest provocation to give the actors a note, or circling them at close range during rehearsals. In one scene, just before calling "Action!," he told Wood to improvise, adding two lines of his own to the dialogue.

"He did it word for word as I had written it, but it was really good and really engaged and filled with interior life because I had asked him to engage with the script," Schreiber said. "Some actors need to be rattled and some need to be focused. And Elijah's so focused."

An actor after Schreiber's own heart, he admitted..

And congrats to Honey on being singled out IN A GOOD WAY by Lexi. I know how Elijah would express his amazement, but I'll just say "awesome".

cheers!

saile

Saile: :k
I truly loved the character of Jonathan in this book.

As a book character, I think I liked Jonathon so much because his writing revealed a complex and sensitive mind. And I thought he was funny in his understated way. And also, Alex's letters reflected on some of the interactions between them and referred to some things Jonathan wrote. the book left me pondering a lot about Jonathon, which I really liked. I found him very intriguing. Yeah, that's the thing that makes it hard to imagine how this will be portrayed on screen. Yeah, that internal portrayal again--but Leiv talks as if he is very happy with Elijah. Let's hope it translates. So much will have to do with how it is edited, me thinks.

ETA:

I knew if I stayed up late enough I could be the first to say:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HONEYELF!!!!

From all of your friends...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/alyonir/dark.bmp

Happy birthday honey elf!!!

Hope your day will be full of joy and happines!!!!!!


Welcom brummie I know you have come to the right place!!!
Hope you will like it here!!I know you will,This people in here are the best!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Geez, the Faculty has been busy!

Happy Birthday, Honeyelf!! :k Our petition queen!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/frodomarshes.jpg

"If only I could recall where I've hidden Honeyelf's birthday present--Bugger!"



Brummie - Welcome! Nice name :). It's interesting that you found the Forbidden Pool scene the creepiest Frodo moment, and I can see why. I was annoyed by the manner Frodo enticed Gollum from the pool. This pure character seemed suddenly cattish, and Mechtild said it very aptly, he treated Gollum like a dog.


Mariole, I'm glad to hear you're feeling better. I loved your story about Madonna and Geena Davis. Yes, indeed, great film acting is far away from a *milking the giant cow* acting style. :D Insofar I not at all worried about Elijah's acting as Jonathan.

Welcome back, Alyon!

Happy Birthday, Honeyelf!!
http://allstarz.org/~liamaiken/elwood109.bmp

Hope you have a great one =)

Happy Birthday Honeyelf. I was trying to post one of my favourite pictures for you, but I still can't work out how to make them small enough. So for now, you will have to imagine a 19 year old elfin faced youth, dressed in a dark sweater, arms folded, blue eyes looking straight at you, a slight hint of a smile starting to form across his sweet lips

Also, welcome Brummie. If your name is a clue to your location, you may be the closest Elijah fan I know of, to date, who has cared enough to see the contents of his past filmography. I'm in Lancashire, though hailing orginally from Sean Bean country in Yorkshire.

Interesting conversation brought about by the remarks of Bunniebugs film extra acquaintance. I read the book, but I am not so good at reading between and beyond the lines on the page, and I didn't feel I got to know Jonathan very well. I loved Alex's linguistic errors, and really felt I knew and understood the guy by the end. Jonathan, on the other hand, was someone who I would have started chatting to at a bus stop, and given up on within minutes.

Saying that though, it IS Elijah's face on the poster, and the comedy of Alex's bad English can only hold the audience so far, so I have high hopes that it will be Elijah's film through and through. And if it isn't, well he has stolen the scene in so many films, that it probably is pay back time now.

Mariole (welcome back!) wrote:
As for Eugene Hutz completely "stealing the show," didn't we also hear that about Charlie Hunnam in Hooligans? Will our H pre-screeners comment on that? I think this observation might be a matter of taste on the part of the viewer, and might not hit everyone the same. Speaking as one of the (admittedly partisan) Hooligans pre-screeners, I don’t think that Charlie steals the show. He is certainly very good, but I still don’t think there is any question that it’s Elijah’s movie (and I don’t think there is much risk of “the one expression” accusations re Hooligans, unless the viewers are blind).

As for the character of Jonathan, someone (Achila??) recently posted the following quote from Liev Schreiber: If you're looking for a character who is a subjective character in the sense that the world of the movie is perceived through them, there is almost no one who can do it better [than Elijah]. His eyes are so full and huge and open and constantly taking everything in. So Jonathan may in fact turn out to be rather passive in the film, if he’s the observer. As for book-Jonathan, he may seem rather vague because we never really see what’s happening from his perspective, do we? IIRC, we see him only through Alex’s eyes.

Happy birthday, honeyelf! It looks as if Elijah is already celebrating:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/hooligansparty.jpg


Brummie: Welcome to the Faculty! Since you’ve been lurking for a while, I don’t need to tell you what a great group of people is (are??) here.

:lol: Happy Birthday Honeyelf

still searching for a photo...oh no..can't find one...will return later with one.

Have a WONDERFUL day.

cheers!
saile :D :D

HONEY ELF ,after a little look in my album i coulden`t
deside wich photo to post for you so here comes three!!

hope you like them!!!!

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/3340ejw23.jpg

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WOOD

Happy birthday, HoneyElf!

Thank you for your industry, perservence, and humor. Have a great day!

Pelagia, thank you for commenting re Charlie Hunnam and Hooligans. I hope EII will turn out to be as much Elijah's film. He's good at that buddy stuff-- Frodo and Sam, anyone? :p Cheers!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HONEYELF!!!
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/nmcrop.bmp


BRUMMIE ~ Welcome to the Faculty :) I am also a Brummie - do you actually live in Birmingham? Re the Forbidden Pool scene, I am also somewhat intrigued that you saw Frodo as creepy in this - my own perception is the same as Mariole's in her quote:

Mechtild, you reminded me that I forgot to comment on the Forbidden Pool scene. I always say this scene as completely adorable puppy-dog Frodo, with his guarded desperation and anxiety to have Gollum come away unkilled.

BUNNIE ~ Your post re EII & the remarks made by the 'extra' also had me very worried - so much so that I actually experienced a very sickening lurch in my stomach as I read it :eek: (yes, that is how much I am entrenched in the welfare of our boy & his career). But then I got to thinking - to say that Eugene steals the show is actually a very sweeping statement to make considering she was only on set for one day. I think someone else mentioned that she could only have witnessed one scene, possibly only part of one scene. I wonder what prompted her to say this - I find it quite mystifying :confused: I do hope she is wrong :z:

Welcome, Brummie -- Glad you found the thread! :cool: On the Forbidden Pool scene in the movie, my main impression was that Frodo's a really bad actor and it's easy to see that he's being dishonest. IMHO Gollum was right to be skeptical. On the page of screencaps from it (http://www.frodolivesin.us/TTT/id5.htm), one comment is, "Would you buy a used car from this hobbit?" So not creepy, exactly, but not innocent, either.

When reading the comments about the EII extra, what first came to my mind was the quote from Liev that Pelagia posted. In the thread where the book's being discussed, we've talked about how it's difficult to pin down whose POV the reader is in; the story's told by Alex, but by the end I felt as if we were seeing it through Jonathan's eyes, partly because he is basically the receiver of the information. I'm very curious to see how actor and director decided to portray Jonathan, since we don't get to know much about him in the book.

BTW, there is no funeral scene in the book, so whatever they were filming that day must have been added for the movie. The scene this picture is from, I'm assuming:

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/LaterxMovies/6.jpg

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Happy Birthday, Honey! For everything you've done, Frodo's supplying your birthday candle :p . (Pic's kinda big, with the frame and all):

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/RotK/PDVD_21260polishedstone.jpg


And since that one's widening the size of the thread, anyway, :rolleyes: here's one I uploaded because I thought the Mobbets might like to see it, but it's "on topic" here, too.

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/Fellowship/cap2155-85cropenamel.jpg

---My sisters are waiting for me, so I'd better go. They're going to help me carry a few things to the other apartment--I had two spills with the cart on Friday, including one that smashed up a bookcase, so I'm not trusting it too much right now. Sometimes I think it'd be easier to move a long ways away, so you could just load things into the moving van at one end and take them off at the other :rolleyes: ... but things are progressing. Thanks for your positive thoughts. :k

Thank you all for your kind and welcoming words

Happy Birthday, Honeyelf. And congratulations on the petition. I am keeping my fingers crossed (metaphorically) for Hooligans US distribution.

Mechtild and Mariole
In the film scene, I thought Frodo spoke to Gollum more like one might trying to get the dog into the car to go to the vet's.
I should have said that I was referring to the film depiction of the scene. I agree with you concerning his words; it’s the look in his eyes that |I find disturbing. To me, once he has persuaded Gollum to come, he appears to be enjoying the power he has over him. I find this scene in the book equally disturbing but for a different reason; it is the first example we have of Frodo actually threatening to use the ring to make Gollum obey him. The conditional “I should….” of the stern speech at the Black Gate has changed to a definite “I shall….” In desperation and with good intentions, yes, but that’s how it starts.

Skater Girl and Shireling
I was Birmingham born and bred (not far from where Tolkien lived) but now live in South Wales.

The comments from the extra on the EII set may simply be due to the difference in viewing an extrovert and an introvert character. Even in real life an extrovert will, on the surface, "steal the show" but the introvert may well have the deeper, stronger character

Also from the LA Times article on Live Schreiber and EII
Wood, who has been acting since age 8, calls the role "vastly different" from anything he has done before. Midway through shooting, he said, that the biggest challenge was not "to fall into the trap of simply playing the character dead-pan - to be so subtle that nothing's happening. Because there is this world going on inside of his head always."
It looks like Elijah was aware of the danger.

tgshaw "Would you buy a used car from this hobbit?" So not creepy, exactly, but not innocent, either. That's the look I was referring to. I can see now what you are saying, that his expression is due to the strain of trying to act innocent. Ah well, I think I shall just have to go and watch the scene again :).
(By the way, your website is wonderful. I have been though the screencaps for some of the other films and find that your comments open my eyes to all sorts of things which I have missed.)

Honeyelf, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!


Look who is bringing your cake!!! :D



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Many happy returns of the day!!!


Brummie, this was a very interesting remark:

I find this scene in the book equally disturbing but for a different reason; it is the first example we have of Frodo actually threatening to use the ring to make Gollum obey him. The conditional “I should….” of the stern speech at the Black Gate has changed to a definite “I shall….” In desperation and with good intentions, yes, but that’s how it starts.
I had assumed Frodo spoke threateningly as a matter of expedience and in exasperation. I had seen his "transfiguration" scenes, however (in the Emyn Muil and on the side of Mt. Doom), as the "creepy" ones. Although Sam is "wowed" by the spectacle of righteous, powerful Frodo, these were scenes which I thought revealed the degree to which Frodo was capable of [insidiously] assuming the dominating "mindset" of the Ring.

But I had not thought of that in instances like this, when Frodo is merely desperate to say whatever he must to get Gollum to do what he thinks he must, before it is too late. But now that you have said that, it is too provocative not to keep my mind open to such an interpretation when I next read the scene. Thank you. I love trying on new perspectives. ;)

~ Mechtild

Happy Birthday, Honeyelf!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/2384951.jpg

I don't know about you, but to me, it looks like he's thinking up ways to celebrate later... ;)

Hello Ladys!

I´m the secret source of Bunnie :) reading in the khazaddum-forum for about a year and enjoy it every night before jumping into bed. I never dared to write something because my English is not so good and your comments were so well-written.
I really didn´t mean to disturb anybody... :confused:
The statement that Hutz stole the show didn´t came from me but from the producer. I didn´t see Eugene Hutz at all so how could I know about his acting abilities?
The producer didn´t dislike Elijahs acting at all. He thought he was doing it perfect. They were just surprised by Hutz and they loved him, that´s all I know. It´s just his point of view not mine.

I sat about four meters away from Elijah and the scene was taken over and over. Maybe the whole scene will make 1-2 minutes of the film, so what does his expression during this one moment tell about the entire movie?
It´s supposed to be the funeral of Jonathans grandmother, of course he is very pensive. He grabs sand from the earth (Rabbi is surprised) and puts it in a plasitc and then quickly into his jacket. The Rabbi speaks, Jonathan turns around and some of the visitors turn into historical important persons (Rabbi into Hitler!). Elijah looked quite long at us all, my legs were skaking so badly and I had to look away because his eyes were to hypnotic. "Hitler" speaks evily and then cut...
Liev and Elijah were really good mates - they observed the scenes often together and spoke about it - they seemed close to each other. But most of the time Elijah was just by himself, also pensive - maybe concentrating for the role.
Liev was very precize (don´t know the real term for it) - it was never good enough for him and did excuses to Elijah but he was very patient (and he has to do this every day while shooting a film- very professionell, I think!!!). The extras often "said ooooh, not again!" to eachother but no word from Elijah... :) (I liked it, but most of the extras were old and came from Prague, most of them didn´t understand a single word so a translater had to translate Lievs directions/we had to come at about 4.30 a.m. and left at 22.40 p.m. and it was so hot out there). In the breaks we could pull of our jackets but Elijah never did.
The producer liked Lievs perfectionism very much. I sat next to him, that´s the reason for knowing a few things. I´m not so extrovert as someone said before, I held my informations back for one year because I thought nobody would be that interested in these few infos :)
Hugs from Germany, Sandra :k

P.S.: At the end of the day Elijah, Liev and some others klapped (in german "klatschten" - don´t know the right word for it) for the extras and the only thing we did is sit and wait - he and Liev are definatley not Hollywood divas... so good mannered men...sigh...

Sandra! How lovely to see you here! And here I thought I was talking about you behind your back. ;)

I have heard over and over again how professional (and also how considerate) Elijah is on the set. It's nice to hear it confirmed from someone who saw him in action personally.

Oh, and welcome "officially" to The Faculty. :)

Oh, thank you very much ... :)

Have a good night, Ladies (in Germany it´s 1.00 a.m.)

LILITH ~ thank you so much for coming to visit us and telling us about your experience on the set of EII :) I went back to read Bunnie's post again after my previous post and she did actually make it very clear that it was the producer who made the comment about Eugene stealing the show and not you. I must apologise for misunderstanding that - I did read it rather quickly the first time and then posted whilst having a panic attack :o

When you said you "had to look away because his eyes were so hypnotic" do you mean that is what you had to do in the film or that is the effect he had on you personally? I rather think its the latter (can certainly empathise with that :D )

Hope you'll come to see us again now that you've introduced yourself :)

Welcome to the Faculty, Brummie and Lilith

Lilith Thanks so much for sharing the experience of your day on the set of EII - and you write very well in English, if I may say so. :) It's nice to know that the efforts of the extras were recognized and acknowledged by Liev and Elijah.

As for Eugene Hutz stealing the acting accolades in EII - as several of you have commented, Elijah's character is very much the introvert to the extroverted Alex. Portraying that very internal emotion is one of Elijah's great strengths as an actor - WE all can see it, and appreciate that quality, but there are many people who do not. Of course, if Hutz is as good as the producer suggests, then the praise will be well-deserved - though I hope he doesn't entirely 'steal the show.' I really do hope that Elijah pulls off a strong - albeit subtle - performance as Jonathan.

We don't yet know how closely EII will resemble the events of the novel, but I've been hoping that with this film we might see Elijah showing some deadpan comedic talent, which I think he could handle really well - coupled with the deeply emotional aspects of his character's journey. I would love to see him get some great reviews. :z:

It seems that Liev was a tough director, in terms of knowing exactly what he wants from his actors. But haven't I read before that Elijah likes and responds very positively to a director who 'pushes' him?

Alyon and Mariole Thanks for the belated birthday wishes. :) Alyon, I thought you were away on a film set!

Shireling It's great to see you. Are your computer troubles all over now? I hope you're getting over your panic attack! :)

Lovely pictures for Honey's birthday, everyone. :)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HONEY!!!

Firstly - Frodo:

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Frodo9.jpg



And from The One Lad himself... (http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Honey.gif)



I hope you're having a lovely day! :)

Happy Birthday, Honeyelf!

Liev Schrieber just won a Tony for Best Featured Actor in a Play for Glengarry Glen Ross.

C4

Blossom, that gif is sooooo adorable! :) :) :)

I may have just passed out a little, but you won't hear it from me.

C4 -- that's lovely news! Thank you! :cool:

Happy Birthday, dear Honeyelf!!! And here's a little love for you, coincidentally from where we derive our name.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/03-12-200517-03500-crop.jpg
Bunnie and others, I too have mentioned to a few nears and dears (read, fellow Elijah fans) that I'm worried that he's gonna get nailed with the "one-expression" bit again in EII. All of the stills have him with basically the same expression. Please please let him smile at some point!

Blossom:
Alyon, I thought you were away on a film set!

I am. Or I will be again. Had to come back in town for some business but I"m leaving again tomorrow. So I got to dip in here for Honey's birthday and for the Elijah talk I miss while I'm away. Though it turns out I have access to a computer while gone--I can't tap into the Faculty--it's too public!!! I don't even go to my "fangirl" email address because I dont' want all those Faculty notices when they pop up to be noticed by everyone in the room. *sigh*

But got to come home and see all the pretty pictures!!

Welcome, Lilith!! Thank you for sharing!

Thank you for the lovely birthday greetings Alyon, Whiteling, Bohemian (so :cool: to see you make an all too rare appearance!), Pelagia, Skater Girl, Saile, Wood, Mariole, Shireling, TG, Brummie, Mechtild, Bunnie, Blossom, C4 and Achila! *whew* :k :k :k :k You ladies pulled out some of my very favorite pictures, and even one or two new ones! Lovely birthday goodies! Blossom, I love that little gif! He pulled some of the funniest faces on that "easter egg" didn't he!

I had a proper hobbit birthday! I threw myself a party and invited my lady friends from church. There was lots of food of course! And I gave them each fabric to make a small quilt, and then taught them how to do it! The dishes are done, and nobody had to be carried off in a wheel-barrow, so I guess the results were mixed, but it was a fun day! (It's not really a party unless somebody has to be removed in a wheel-barrow, is it? :p :p )

Brummie, it's so nice to see a new face here! And such interesting thoughts! I'm too partied to poop ... or something of that nature...Anyway, I haven't an intelligent thing to say at moment, except that my reaction to the Forbidden Pool scene seems to vary with my mood, and there have been a few times when I was slightly creeped out, and others when I felt Frodo was being quite gentle with Gollum. Welcome, and please hang around!

Lillith, thank you for your lovely first-hand report! It's always wonderful to hear about Elijah's professionalism and politeness! Welcome to you, and we'd love to hear more!

I'm not too worried about Elijah's Jonathan getting shown-up by Eugene's Alex. It's the nature of the book that Alex is the more flamboyant character, and Jonathan the quieter.

Really, isn't that true of Frodo too? In the book we have very little clue what is going on in Frodo's interior landscape. But Elijah walked a very fine line by revealing what Frodo felt without resorting to histrionics! I've no doubt he can make us understand Jonathan too!

And speaking of people saying nice things about Elijah, did you all wonder what Lexi Alexander (shekixu :D ) was talking about when she took that IMDb poster and former Hooligans extra to task? He's since deleted all his posts, but I happened to see them before he did so. He was complaining about how shabbily he'd been treated on set. He had a gripe about everyone except for ONE actor. Any guesses who? ;) ;) He said the One Lad would go to the craft services tent for breakfast every morning, when he could have pulled a prima donna act, and had his breakfy delivered to his trailer. EW was apparently very polite, and declined to takes "cuts" even when they were offered! I just love hearing people say nice things about the darling thing! :) :) :)

hugs all around!

honey!

PS. My daughter is an art student, and her latest assignment is to copy a classical piece of art, and then alter it in some way. She's thinking along the lines of Michelangelo's David with his hand in a bag of cheese curls! I told her about your Frodo Art Travesties, Mech, and she looked at them and enjoyed them very much! So thank you! :D

Blossom, that gif! :lol: It's hilarious! Thank you.


Herzlich willkommen, Lilith, "Secrect-Source-Of-Bunnie" :)! (As a fellow German and non-native speaker I can assure you, the Faculty is an international group of linguistically very tolerant people ;)) Thanks a lot for your behind the scenes report! May I ask, are you somewhere in the picture Tg posted of the funeral scene, by any chance?


Honey, I think, every art student should study Mechtild's manips thoroughly. They are really instructive.:cool:

WELCOME LILITH :D :D :D

As whiteling says

the Faculty is an international group of linguistically very tolerant people

You communicate very well in english but if there are things you want to express and are not sure of the exact translation, PLEASE give it a try. We have much respect for those that are able to speak more than one language. And I love the fact that we are an INTERNATIONAL group, don't you?

So happy to see Liev Schreiber win his category at the Tony's. Okay primarily because it might add to the buzz of a certain film due out in September.

Good to see everyone!!!! :k

cheers!
saile

Welcome, Brummie and Lilith! It's always wonderful when new people come and share their thoughts. Thank you, Lilith, for sharing a little of your experiences on the set of EII. I found your account very heart-warming. :)

Happy belated Birthday, Honeyelf! I'm sorry I didn't manage to give it on the right day - I had surgery to remove my gallbladder last Wednesday, and I'm having to take my 'sitting at the computer time' in very short sessions.

I'm sorry I didn't manage to give it on the right day - I had surgery to remove my gallbladder last Wednesday, and I'm having to take my 'sitting at the computer time' in very short sessions.Hope all is well, Narya, and that you're mended soon! :k

Best wishes to Narya, and a warm welcome to Lilith. Thank you for dropping in! I love to here stories from people on the spot. Cheers!

Happy Belated Birthday, honeyelf!

I have such fond memories of our RL meeting in Seattle. :) :) :) It's gratifying to see Lexi's appreciation of your efforts on the Hooligans petition, and it would be a fitting belated birthday gift to you if a distribution deal was announced very soon! :z:

tgshaw, by now you have surely suffered enough injustices for one lifetime. :( I hope you will not be bothered further by any repairmen you didn't call, and may the new apartment's possibilities shape up easily, and well. :)

Welcome, Brummie and Lilith! This is the nicest, and the most interesting (to us Elwood fans :D ) place on the internet. :cool: Lilith, I read your account of your close encounter with The Eyes at Bunnie's LJ. Thanks for bringing it here, too.

May I just echo what Goldenberry said. Honey, thanks and congratulations !!!!! Despite not even so much as lurking here recently, I have signed your petition (three times in all .... :o ! Never did work out whether there really was more than one petition, or whether all signatures ended up on the same list .....?)

And Honey, belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!

Here's someone looking as apologetic as I feel (the subtitle says "Honey, sorry I missed your birthday" - oh yes it does!!!):

http://webplaza.pt.lu/barbara/116ec8880.jpg

How's that for a lively - or even lovely - expression?
On that subject, I saw a comment from someone recently about EW's "icy" acting. Words [almost] fail me. Yet more evidence that people will - and do - interpret anything absolutely any way they choose. It really is all in the eye of the beholder. Sigh.

And, on the subject of Green Street, formerly known as Hooligans, this page of the BBC website may just amuse (see in particular the right-hand column):BBC website link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/comingsoon/aug05diary.shtml)

Note that most comments so far - even from men - suggest that Mr Wood WILL convince. Clearly there ARE some discerning viewers out there after all.
The timing of the London première is perplexing, though: Dougie Brimson's site still has it as August 26 (Friday). but Lexi says August 22 (Monday). I guess she should know. Anyone have any more news on that? The nightmare of being there on the wrong day is too awful to contemplate :eek:

It is SUCH a relief to hear that both Lexi and Liev (odd symmetry in those names!) really did appreciate our boy and his acting, despite reports and rumours to the contrary. It seems Lilith (welcome - and to Brummie likewise!) was on the EII set on the same day as someone else I know, but interpreted what she saw and heard totally differently. So the endless repeat takes were not about Elijah's playing of Jonathan, and Liev apologised to him for them? Bliss! Thank you, Lilith :k

Sin City: I agree that the impressive thing about Kevin was the extraordinarily agile, gravity-defying way Elijah moved and sprang/flew in that role. The face failed to send shivers down my spine in any sense (except that of knowing whose it was!). But the whole concept of the film was visually and artistically stunning, I thought. To see characters who are out-and-out clichés on paper come to hulking and almost believable life on the screen was (I thought) genuinely quite thrilling, and even the ceaseless violence was stylised and therefore distant enough to be watchable without flinching or throwing up. Yet it was laid on so thick that I suspect most of the audience would never want to see another squashed human on the screen, let alone one in real life. I'm not sure I could watch the movie a second time - well, not for a good few months, anyway.