Narya, Gak! The eyes on Baby!Lij -- they're the same! *stares* Bohemian, I love the contrast pics! You posted along the lines of what I stumbled across today. I can't believe I haven't seen it posted here yet. So here is my unoriginal contribution:

http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/ans-lij.jpg

To compare further, here's one from last year:

http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/bday2004s.jpg


And this year:

http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/bday2005s.jpg

“Do you think he’s ever going to be able to do anything else after Lord of the Rings”?
The funny thing about these nitwits, I'm willing to bet, is that they are probably equally unaware that he ever did anything before LOTR... :rolleyes:

...but, yes, you really are 24 years old!
LOL! You have him looking suitably angsty for someone who's way too young to be angsted by birthdays (yet they always seem to be). ;) My sister got Depends for her 30th birthday. :eek:

What a great collage! But, of course, he has the same expression in each picture
*refers you back to your own website* :p Lovely picture, Blossom! (As usual!) :k

Shelbyshire, half the things that get posted around here are all "geek" to me! :p

Lady Wendy, how did you like Forever Young?

Council of Elrond lists that TAMTSNBN is on tomorrow at 11AM on Toon Disney.
Thank the Powers that Be that I don't get Toon Disney! *whew!*

Serena: Tickets bought just to see Frolijah = probably 37. You asked! :p

Ahhhhhhh. The One Lad might be like a Unicorn as We watch Him go down the street. Perhaps because he is So Unhollywood, and His Personality is So Warm and Personable to Us. :D

Or maybe it's because He learned a Lesson from Kevin Costner? Didn't Kevin continue to act Normal, as if nothing had happened because he won an Oscar? Much like the One Lad continued to act Normal when he played Frodo? :p

Hollywood Spending: Some Hollywood stars act Ordinary and Unhollywood when They shop. If that's So, how come We never see the One Lad shopping at Kmart or Target? Every shopping picture We see he is at an exclusive store. What kind of Ordinary is this? Doesn't it make you wonder what Secrets he's hiding? :lol: ;)

Another Thing on Hollywood Spending: Stars also get a Special, Black credit card from American Express. (I saw it on an E channel show. that's how I know. ;) ). Again, some Hollywood Stars that act Ordinary, don't seem to Use it. What Secret are They hiding? :lol:

Wow, that was a birthday party! And the good thing is, I wasn't forced to have pickled herring or even an Alka-Seltzer for breakfast today :p . OTOH the daze caused by acute overdose of Elijah pics already starts to lessen...

Loved all the pictures and words, ladies. Mariole, that Elwood morph was great.
It seems Elijah is now a FGUC (fully grown up celebrity). As a novelty, many News websites here picked his birthday for their "Today's Celeb Birthday" mention. :) I haven't noticed that the years before.

Lady Wendy's ethereal beauty shot and Tg's remark on the Greek tragedy mask set me out on a new round of googling for classical pictures.
When I found the following, I nearly fell off my chair:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Adonis_Franklin.jpg

I think the likeness to a certain 24 year old actor is absolutely stunning! Btw, this painting showed up when I looked for "Adonis" ;) .
The artist's name is Richard Franklin and his vita says: "Franklin's beautiful treatment of the human figure draws from the religious, mythological and secular visions of the past." Yep, we've had a few discussions about these topics, haven't we?

You can see more of his gorgeous work here (http://www.michaels.com/art/online/artistproducts?artistid=313).

Wow! Whiteling!

We have several of those Richard Franklin prints you linked to hanging in our hall - but I had not seen that one before.

He's beautiful, and yes - the likeness is almost uncanny, especially the eyes. Thanks for sharing him with us.

Methinks I must find some extra wall space! :)

Congratulations to Bohemian and Shelbyshire on your newly acquired picture posting talents!

Mariole - I love the 'Elwood Evolution' pics.

Tg - Good luck with the move.

Wow, whiteling. That picture is just so..the similarity is almost unbelieveable. So that proves it, Elijah is a reincarnated Greek god :p

So that proves it, Elijah is a reincarnated Greek god :p

Yes, definitely divine. :cool:

Just finished watching TAMTSNBN. I was cleaning as I watched and would have preferred to keep vacuuming when commercial breaks were over.

Hopefully, EW learned something useful from this. Experience for recording voices for "Happy Feet," perhaps?

This should be compared to all the film greats who filmed dozens of movies a year when beginning their careers. Some movies were real clunkers, but the actors were given time to gain experience and learn their craft.

I recognized all but one of the cast members names. How did all these actors willingly get involved in this mess?

C :eek: 4

This should be compared to all the film greats who filmed dozens of movies a year when beginning their careers. Some movies were real clunkers, but the actors were given time to gain experience and learn their craft.
...and not always at the beginnings of their careers :eek: ! But those who fall into them later on often have enough of a history behind them that fans accept the failures as exceptions. I've heard Dustin Hoffman get ribbed about Ishtar a few times, but he's been in enough good movies that it's just laughed off, as the "ribber" meant it to be. I've noticed that when people kid Elijah about past roles, it's usually Flipper that gets mentioned--sometimes North or Deep Impact--never TAMTSNBN. Maybe since it went direct to video, the people making the jokes don't think most listeners would know what they were talking about (I can't think of any way I'd ever have heard of it if I hadn't been tracking Elijah). Or maybe they realize there are some things you just can't joke about :( :( ;) .

I recognized all but one of the cast members names. How did all these actors willingly get involved in this mess?
Several theories ;) : A lot of movies turn out to be very different projects from what the actors originally signed on to. IIRC, Bumblebee was one of those. Also, remember this movie was made in 1999--but not released until 2002 (Aug. 6, which just happened to be the same day the first FotR/LotR VHS/DVD was released :rolleyes: -- I'm sure that was just a coincidence ;) ). So, for Elijah it was pre-LotR, for Jennifer Love Hewitt it was probably one of her first roles since... whatever TV show it was that she had to break away from :o . You'd hope the older actors wouldn't have had to stoop so low to get a job, but then you might have to refer back to theory #1, and think that the project looked better going in than it turned out to be. Also, except for the leads, there really weren't many characters who were "onscreen" for more than a scene or two, and sometimes actors seem to take those kinds of parts just for the heck of it--go in, do voices for a couple of days, be finished. (But I'll bet they were glad that it didn't get wide release!) Regarding Elijah specifically, I've wondered if it wasn't part of a "package deal" to do a certain number of movies for Disney-related companies, but I don't have anything to back that up (except, maybe, the problems with Oliver Twist). On TAMTSNBN, of course, Disney hides behind "Buena Vista Home Entertainment," but there's no mistaking that castle. (I've had that video on a very high shelf, but since I have to move all the videos up there, anyway, I just took it down to check and be sure I wasn't wrongly maligning anyone. And from glancing at the cover, I'd say Elijah bears a much more striking resemblance to Adonis than he does to Tom Thumb :p .)

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--As I sit here cross-legged on the floor with my keyboard in my lap, a telephone book as a mouse pad, and my CPU and monitor on the floor in front of me...Addicted? Who's addicted?? :p Or maybe it's more of an umbilical cord than an addiction :rolleyes: . Fact is, I'll be able to go online at work all week, so won't be completely out of touch, but from Monday morning when I have to be out of here (old apartment) and Friday night when phone service will be on in the new apartment, I won't be able to log on from my home computer. Which means no email and no way to do anything to my website except post in the guestbook like anyone else. (Do you get the idea that having no phone is a small inconvenience next to having no internet access??)

I won't get as much done to the website as I wanted to--Shelob's lair is hooked back up (it's been down for re-linking all of January). I swore I wasn't going to put up any more SL pages before I had caps to post at least to the point Frodo has the phial out of his pocket. I've just barely gotten that far--the phial isn't even lighting up yet--so I'll try to get that much posted, at least, although it might not have much commentary. I don't know if it's because I took a break from SL for a couple of months, or if this part of the scene is actually more interesting, but I'm uncovering some good acting there when I lighten things up a bit. (I suppose it doesn't hurt that there are close-ups involved ;) .)

Since I will be able to get here during the week, I may concentrate on the website during any time I can steal from moving. Within the next few days I should not only be moved but also have the legal case settled one way or another. So, stress just ahead but then hopefully life will be calmer (seems I say that a lot... :rolleyes: ). (((Faculty))) :k As the governor of California said, "I'll be baaack!"

tg, like you, I went into this with an open mind, wanting to like it, thinking "Can it be that bad?" Maybe excellent animated movies like "The Lion King" and "Beauty and the Beast," have made it harder to enjoy the average ones, and impossible for the poor. The characters just seemed flat and unengaging.

But, nobody was hurt, the world did not end, and there are other EW movies to appeciate and look forward to. :D

Any Faculty members familiar with Wallace and Gromit? Very, very funny and exceptionally clever animated short movies, with a feature length due this year.

tg, hope things go your way. :z:

C4

:::: crawling in after horrendous bout with what I'll euphemistically call "the flu" ::::

Missed The One Lad's birthday, I did. I remembered it, but was too"punified" (good North Carolina expression) to get to my 'puter. I doubt if the yet-to-be-seen outpouring of Laddish Pictures would be good for my heart at this point. ;)

Anyway, I hereby raise my glass of Pediaswill to Mr. Elijah Wood, wherever he's recovering from his inevitable hangover from celebrating his day, and wish him a happy birthday . :::: sniffle :::: All grown up, he is.

I read Sean's book today. I'm glad I did. It was entertaining look inside a guy who is as exasperated as anyone else at his inability to lighten up, and says so. Often.

I read nothing that made me change my mind about my opinion and assessment that I expressed back when the book first came out. Sean's continually stepping outside himself to see how he might look to others, his seemingly inexplicable over-attention to detail and self-described obsessive need to control make perfect sense to me. It's not ego or grandiosity. If he had any sort of strong ego he wouldn't need constant feedback and reassurance like he does. It was learned a long time ago at his mother's knee, trying to maintain some sort of stability and safety while living with someone who was, as my brother would put it, "A loose cannon, rolling about the deck of life, waiting to go off". Resourceful little guy, he was.

What changed was my opinion of his acting. Sean is a tremendous actor to play so convincingly a character who, though he'd like to identify with his goodness and strength, is absolutely nothing like the actor who's portraying him. That Sean's personality did not come through in Sam is - I don't know a word strong enough for incomprehensively unbelievable - and a tribute to both Sean and Peter. Whatever he felt about Sam's heroism and how he shouldn't have been such a minor character (hah) early on, Samwise never showed it. He never stepped outside of himself and evaluated how he might look to Frodo, Gollum, orcs, or anyone else, or if he was getting enough respect or attention. His whole being was devoted to his master, and through Frodo, the task at hand.

I also think that Sean learned a tremendous amount from his partners in crime on the movie. Even with the difference in age and that Sean has a family, he seems to have spent a good amount of time looking into his colleagues' souls and seeing traits that he admires, from Dom's "scrabbly Manchester" origins that he wears on his sleeve, to Elijah's grace, Billy's sprite-like spirituality, and Viggo's passion and dedication. Sean seems to be constantly trying to learn what "normal" is. Sadly, he's in the wrong profession for good role models. ;) In any case, I came out of the last page with more respect than I had for him going in.

::: crawling back to bed :::

~grumpyandpunified

GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL!!!

OH,I LOVE TO COME IN HERE TO SEE ALL THE
BEAUTYFUL PICTURES,PAINTINGS,AND ALL THE LOVELY
WORDES FOR ELIJAH!! :k :k :k

I WISH YOU TG GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR MOVE!! :k
I HAVE DONE THAT SO MANY TIMES SO I KNOW THE
HARD WORK!!!

GRUMPY,HOPE YOU GETTING BETTER SOON!!!! :k :k

BLOSSOM, I LOVE YOUR COLLAGE!!!!

MARIOLE,IT WAS FUN TO SEE HOW ELIJAH HAVE CHANGE
FROM A BEAUTYFUL CHILD TO A GOURGES MAN!!!!! :p :D

ACHILA,THAT REALY IS A PROV OF WHAT WE IN HERE ALL
READY KNOWS,ELIJAH REALY APRESIAT HIS FANS!!!!

sorry if there is any wrong spelling!!!!!

WELL,I THINK THAT WAS ALL FOR NOW!!
HOPEFULLY I WILL BE AIBEL TOO POP IN LATER TOO DAY!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

EDIT: just wondering ,what is it meaning when the little dot.beside
mine name sas wood is inviseble? nothing bad ihope!! :z:

Reincarnation of a Greek God?

Don't You mean INcarnation? LOL.

Maybe.. as soon as I figure out what the difference is.

Sundance Minute


Elijah Wood can scat! The happening Hobbit got on stage with a jazz band at the Getty Images studio on Main St. last week and treated the crowd to some vivacious vocal improv. …


When are they gonna learn that "there's more to this hobbit than meets the eye"?!

Well, I hope that EJW had as good a time on his birthday as I did! First of all, there were all the great pictures posted here. Then Achila and I did indeed celebrate in style, with chocolate and wine (not together!) and LOTS of viewing. She introduced me to the “Ridiculous Thoughts” video, and to “The Guy” in Spy Kids 3.

Since we were in sort of a pervy-Elijah-fancying mood, we watched The Faculty and (erm) Flipper. Then we sampled earlier Lij with Huck Finn. And finally, since we felt that we needed something from his more recent oeuvre (!), we watched the RotK Easter egg again. Of course, we could have watched one of the LotR films, but since we had just recently watched the entire EE trilogy recently in one day, we decided against that.

honey! – Feel free to borrow from the birthday “card.” Glad you enjoyed it.

BTW, since Lady Wendy and others mentioned Forever Young: Achila showed me this one a few weeks ago. Very enjoyable – although I was extremely confused for the first half hour or so, because it wasn’t the movie that I expected to see. I mean that both figuratively (it was much lighter and funnier than I expected) and literally (I had thought this was the one where Mel Gibson has a deformed or burned face -- duh). Elijah was as charming and delightful as ever; and I agree with tgshaw that the library scene is especially endearing.

EDIT: just wondering ,what is it meaning when the little dot.beside
mine name sas wood is inviseble? nothing bad ihope!! :z:

Wood, all that means is that in your profile, under 'browsing options', you checked 'yes' on the 'invisible mode' option. This means that when you log into KD, your name doesn't show up on the front page showing that you are on the site. Basically, it means that you are 'invisible' to other users unless you post.

You can go back to being 'visible' simply by going to your profile and changing the 'invisible' option to 'no' . If you're not sure how to do that, let me know, and I can do it for you.

THANK YOU SO MUCH NARYA!!! :k :k

I HADE NO IDEAR!!!!

I HAVE FIXED IT NOW
NOT THAT IT REALY MATERS, THOU
IT MAYBE IS FUN TO OTHER IF THEY CAN SEE
WHO IS ONLINE!! :p :D

I THINK IT`S FUN TOO SEE!!! :D :cool:

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

When I found the following, I nearly fell off my chair:




:::: joins Whiteling down on the floor in shock ::::

An artist after your own heart, perhaps?

He was born in '61, making him a mere 20 years older than TOL. (Darn. That moniker isn't going to hold true much longer dad-gummit). maybe he saw FotR and was inspired?

~grumpyandstillpunified(don't disillusion me. I want to believe)


Perhaps because he is So Unhollywood, and His Personality is So Warm and Personable to Us. :D
I have this perverse longing to see him really take someone to task over something that he really couldn't stomach. (sorry) I just don't think he's as much of a saint as we think. (Porn and chocolate, anyone?)

I think he is realistic about his position in the scheme of things - comparatively low income - unable to afford high-level security, but lots of adoring fans. I think he's perfectly aware of how he must act to stay safe. I don't think much misses those magical, blue, bottomless, fathomless - er - sorry - :o

I think he also has a good grasp of how much fans matter. Hanging around Peter Jackson for a few years surely didn't hurt in that respect.

Hollywood Spending: Some Hollywood stars act Ordinary and Unhollywood when They shop. If that's So, how come We never see the One Lad shopping at Kmart or Target? Every shopping picture We see he is at an exclusive store. What kind of Ordinary is this? Doesn't it make you wonder what Secrets he's hiding? :lol: ;)
He's a 24-year-old guy living in close proximity to his mom and regardless of who pays the bills, when you're 20-something and live near your mom, you don't buy your own laundry detergent and toilet paper. If the paparazzi hung around k-mart and looked for his mom, they'd see plenty of her. :p

Again, some Hollywood Stars that act Ordinary, don't seem to Use it. What Secret are They hiding? Their privacy! It's the same reason I don't subscribe to grocery store discount cards. It's bad enough that using a credit/check card records every danged purchase I make. It's bad enough that Peapod makes a business of it under the guise of convenience of shopping from previous lists. Perhaps it's why every time I buy a bottle of 81 mg aspirin I get a magazine or pamphlet in the mail about heart disease and arthritis. Harrrumph. Bad enough that the AARP is after me and I have to hide out - er - um ::::: /rant Sorry. :o Went off a bit there.

Did I mention The One Lad has shown up in my dreams for three nights running? So did my 2nd grade school teacher and childhood church, so go figure. Feverish delerium, obviously.

~punified

grumpy, are you sure it was delerium?? :lol: :lol:

he turnes up in my dreams too and i just say this
i am not sick i am very much in good helth!!! :p :D :cool:

and i agree with you. i don`t think there is much that those eyes
miss!!!!! ;)
i won`t go in eny futher on the subject!!!! :p :D :rolleyes:


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

An artist after your own heart, perhaps?

You can say that again! Franklin's paintings are brilliant. His portraits are not only of great beauty, but exude soul. That's down my alley ;) . (And don't worry, I want to believe, too... :k )
*sitting on floor beside Grumpy and hands her hot ginger tea*


Tg, I hope things work out. Good luck! :k

Well, I just watched Paradise, which I recently bought on DVD. Honestly, the things an Elijah Wood fan will put themselves through in order to complete their collection. :D So far, it gets my vote for "the most wretched acting of all characters over the age of 10". Well, except for the three minutes with the painting lady - she was good. :D Don and Melanie, there's a reason your movie careers were short lived. You both suck. :p

However, I did appreciate both Elijah and Thora Birch in it. And next time I 'watch' it, I'll know to just fast forward past all the scenes they're not in.

I need to go watch 15 minutes of something else now - anything else - just to cleanse my palate. ;)

Elijah Wood can scat! The happening Hobbit got on stage with a jazz band at the Getty Images studio on Main St. last week and treated the crowd to some vivacious vocal improv. …

Talk about "exuding soul!" Seriously I appreciate good scat! Cab Calloway was brilliant at it, and even Dave Matthews can do it well!

I don't think I mentioned that Elijah and Sean both sang Happy Birthday to a couple of audience members at ORC. Both of them can carry a tune, and have perfectly servicable voices. And Elijah has a song on pandemoniumforamerica where he uses that haunting quality in his voice to great effect! Yes, I think with some training he could be very good. iancurtisiancurtisiancurtisiancurtis

confession time :o : Not that I put any store in it, but I have a habit of reading Elijah's horoscope every morning. On 1/28 it predicted good career news in March or April! iancurtisiancurtisiancurtisiancurtis :rolleyes: :D

I have this perverse longing to see him really take someone to task over something that he really couldn't stomach

Oh! Is that pervese? Remind me to self-flagelate with a wet noodle later! ;) But, yes, me too! He does have that capacity toward "unfeasible politeness," doesn't he. But I think it's part and parcel with his determination to be "normal" and thus fly under the radar of most of the press.

honey!

I have this perverse longing to see him really take someone to task over something that he really couldn't stomach.He claims that he doesn't get angry. That may or may not be true; I have trouble believing that there is anyone who doesn't at least occasionally get angry. Maybe it's more true that he doesn't express his anger? (In which case, I hope he has some other outlet for it.)

I do know, however, that he gets annoyed. A friend of mine went to Collectormania4 in Oct. of '03, and witnessed him taking a security person to task for being overly pushy and abrupt -- rude, even -- with her. She said he was, oh, so polite and civil to the man, but with the sort of edge that indicated that he wasn't going to tolerate that sort of thing. It left quite an impression on the fans who witnessed it, and made him a real hero in my friend's eyes. :cool:
I just don't think he's as much of a saint as we think. (Porn and chocolate, anyone?)

Well... there's a definite difference between being a saint and being a pretty good guy who also likes to have a good time. ;) I've never been inclined to put him on that high a pedestal, but I do think he's a very well grounded, genuinely nice guy. ...Who likes to have a good time. :D

Narya Celebrian wrote:
Well, I just watched Paradise, which I recently bought on DVD. Honestly, the things an Elijah Wood fan will put themselves through in order to complete their collection.
I bought this DVD back in December; and I actually don’t think it’s such a terrible movie. In fact, I was surprised that I enjoyed it as much as I did, given the presence of Don and Melanie in the leads. Admittedly, the story wasn’t particularly original. But in addition to Elijah, it had some nice cinematography, and a good score (by yet another member of the musical Newman clan).

Elijah had some very good scenes. I especially liked when he was playing solitaire and bopping to rap on his headphones (and also his little speech on the cultural significance of rap!). And when he and Thora Birch were sitting on the raft in the rain, and he was telling her that he really didn’t have any friends – classic, heartbreaking Elijah.

Favorite bit of Elijah-dialogue:

EW: “What kind of fish do you catch?”
Don Johnson: “What kind of boat is this?”
EW (brightly): “A shrimp [pause of JUST the right length as he realizes what he’s saying] boat.”

I too rather liked Paradise. Rather than seeing bad acting, I actually found that Don and Melanie made me feel some empathy for this couple who had grown progressively further apart as they couldn't help each other come to terms with their loss. They were meant to be inward looking and not very communicative and I thought they put that across well.

I agree that it was beautifully filmed and had a lovely score, and I often find myself putting it on to half watch whilst I am ironing or sewing.

I actually enjoyed the film even more in German, as I find Melanie Griffiths voice as annoying as Liv Tyler's real voice, and it was much improved in the dubbed version.

Goldie de-lurks for a few gratuitous comments:



confession time :o : Not that I put any store in it, but I have a habit of reading Elijah's horoscope every morning. On 1/28 it predicted good career news in March or April! iancurtisiancurtisiancurtisiancurtis :rolleyes: :D

honey!

Oh, honey, I do hope this comes true. IdoIdoIdoIdoIdo!

What I would give to see a video of Elijah singing scat.....sigh

And Bunnie, I would also love to see him politely but firmly laying down the rules to that rude security person.

[/re-lurks]

*looks around wildly* Was that Goldenberry? Naw, couldn't have been. *shakes head, goes on with day*

A friend of mine went to Collectormania4 in Oct. of '03, and witnessed him taking a security person to task for being overly pushy and abrupt -- rude, even -- with her. She said he was, oh, so polite and civil to the man, but with the sort of edge that indicated that he wasn't going to tolerate that sort of thing. It left quite an impression on the fans who witnessed it, and made him a real hero in my friend's eyes.
Thank you for sharing this, BB! That is truly wonderful behavior. I feel a melt coming on. :D

I actually enjoyed the film even more in German, as I find Melanie Griffiths voice as annoying as Liv Tyler's real voice, and it was much improved in the dubbed version.
LOL! I haven't seen the film, but I know what you're saying! Cheers.

Narya Celebrian wrote:

I bought this DVD back in December;

Me too! I bought "Paradise" at Amazon in December 04...
And I have to say that I liked the movie, too. Not the great or special one, but not bad at all, IMHO!
May be I'm sentimental, but I enjoyed the story itself - for me it was touching and I can believe in it. Music was very beautiful.
Griffits and Don were OK for me... And I definetelly liked little EW (and that little girl who played his friend), in their parts! I agree with Narya - Elijah has some exellent scenes in Paradise. I also noticed that moment when his character confessed that in truth he has no friends...

HI ALL!!!!
I HAVE TO SAY THIS!!

SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE I KNOW ELIJAH.
BUT I DON`T!! BUT I REALY THINK HE IS THE PERSON THAT NOT GET ANGRY
I MEAN REAL ANGRY.I THINK HE HAS A VERY EXPRESION IN HIS VOICE!!
HE CAN TELL PEOPLE WHEN SOMETNING REALY BUGGING HIM JUST BY CAMELY TELL THEM.HE HAS A VERY STRONG AND AFORITY (is that the right word) IN HIS VOICE WHEN THERE IS A NEED FOR IT.AND I THINK (I KNOW)
HIS EYES EXPRESS LOT OF HIS FEELINGS.

BUT LIKE SOMEBODY SAD EARLIER,SOMETIMES HE MUST BE ANGRY ,IT CAN`T BE GOOD FOR ANYBODY TO HIDE THER FEELINGS!!

I HOPE YOU UNDERSTANDS WHAT I `M TYING TO SAY HERE!!! :z: :z:

WELL. THIS IS MY OPINION!! :k :k

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Goldie de-lurks for a few gratuitous comments:
And Bunnie, I would also love to see him politely but firmly laying down the rules to that rude security person.
[/re-lurks]

What security person? :o What did I miss? Probably some of those fascinating reports from the con that I haven't gotten to read yet... :(

From what I've seen in print and heard on commentaries and interviews, the three non-Sean hobbits are very much MTV type guys. They are extremely snarky. (Not that old geezers like myself can't be snarky, but Dom Monaghan raises it to an art form). I think that they handle a lot of the stupid stuff by deflecting it and making some completely outrageous comment. Not so much Elijah - he gives the impression of giving it serious consideration, and then comes out with a reaction or comment. The incident in Prague was a good example - he handled that with grace and just the right note of outrage, followed by a humorous but straightforward explanation, but he could not keep himself from blushing. The boy's got self-control, but not that much. ;)

I remember Dominic being asked once about if he and Elijah were dating. Without skipping a beat or any hesitation, Dom said "Yeah, we're going to be married" with a completely straight face. And I'd be willing to bet that he and Elijah had what they called back home "a good hee-haw" over it later.

I think Dom's fuse is a lot shorter than Elijah's, though. Didn't he tell some woman to her face that she was mad?

Yeah, Elijah's mom raised her boy right. ;) ;)

BTW, did you see the thing on TORN, I think, about "teenage girls sighing over Elijah Wood"? If they only knew... :lol:

~grumpy (btw, anyone want to bet that Dom will never again be mistaken for a line-crasher at an awards red carpet?)

GRUMPY,DID YOU SAY TEENAGE GIRL?????? :D :D :cool:

LIKE YOU SAD,IF ONLY THEY KNEW!!!!
:lol: :lol: :D :D :haha:

OR SCOULDE WE BE HAPPY ABOUT BEEING CALLED
TEENAGE GIRLS????????
:lol: :lol: :haha: :cool: :cool:

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

What security person? :o What did I miss? Probably some of those fascinating reports from the con that I haven't gotten to read yet... :(
Just scroll up a few posts :) --BB told the story in post #273 and Mariole quoted it in #277.

The word that came to mind when I read that story was "professional." The way a manager might talk to an employee who's just engaged in some unacceptable behavior toward, say, a customer or client. The implication is that Elijah realizes the security people are there to help him and not the other way around, which I see as a positive attitude for someone who could at times be mistaken for "too passive." Another part of the professionalism he's learned throughout his life, probably beginning by watching his mother?

I think this goes along with what wood said about Elijah being able to make it clear that he's upset/angry/unhappy about something without making a show of it. (Well, he is the master of subtle expression of emotions, right :p ?) But a little primal scream therapy might save his fingernails--and his lungs?

I remember Dominic being asked once about if he and Elijah were dating. Without skipping a beat or any hesitation, Dom said "Yeah, we're going to be married" with a completely straight face. And I'd be willing to bet that he and Elijah had what they called back home "a good hee-haw" over it later.
Yes, I remember that one. IIRC, it was some journalist who'd been doing a lot of "hinting" that the two of them were a couple, so Dom basically fed him what he wanted to hear; also, IIRC, Elijah was there (it was either a premiere or an award ceremony), and went along with it. Not so Dom's comment that caused more of a stir--that Elijah was really angry because PJ had given Andy Serkis a "One Ring" just like the one he'd given Elijah. Dom was by himself on a talk show (Sharon Osborne's?) when he said that, and Elijah had to do some damage-control afterward by openly denying it.

As someone who can (usually) make outrageous comments with a completely straight face, I've learned it can be dangerous if someone doesn't know me :eek: . I once had a poor undergrad almost in tears, without meaning to at all :( -- I've been more careful since then.

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Paradise always seems to draw a mixed reaction. Not as strongly as All I Want, but some people like it and some don't. Back in the pre-LotR and during-LotR days when I still had EJW's movies listed in order from best to worst (IMHO, of course) on my website, Paradise was at the bottom of the pile until TAMTSNBN came along to displace it (and may it never give up that spot :z: ). I still give Paradise a pretty low rating, because I thought the story was predictable and the lead (adult) characters gave me no way to connect with them emotionally--but ever since I first wrote comments on it, there have been people who've disagreed. But, then, I find the "balcony scene" in Forever Young cringeworthy, while other people say it's their favorite scene in the movie...

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Progress report:

I lost my connection to the website sooner than I expected. Evidently when I disconnected the computer in order to move the desk, I lost my setup connection with the webhost. So even when I wrote my previous post while sitting on the floor, I couldn't have updated the site--I just didn't know it yet. I don't have time to redo the settings right now, so I'll wait until I have phone service in the new apartment this coming weekend (since I'd have to redo them again at that point, anyway).

So there's really nothing new on the website, I'm afraid. I got Shelob's Lair up and running again from its new subdirectory, but didn't get any new pages added before I lost the connection. I hope to have at least a little something to add next weekend. (I can work on new pages in the meantime--I just can't publish them :rolleyes: .)

I had some help moving the big furniture over the weekend, and have gotten a lot done--but there's still a lot to do. It's beginning to seem finite though :rolleyes: . I'm supposed to be completely cleared out of the old apartment by tomorrow morning, but I'm going to try to get a little extra time.

I've convinced the reps for the credit card company that I actually did make the payments that hadn't gotten recorded. They've been sitting there with copies of my bank statements and the cleared checks for a month, but didn't even look at them until I called last week.

Now I have to convinced them that, because I made those payments (and the checks cleared the bank, and they got their money) 1.75 years ago, they shouldn't be charging me 1.75 years' worth of interest on the amount--as if I just paid it last week, when they finally added it to their books.

He claims that he doesn't get angry. That may or may not be true; I have trouble believing that there is anyone who doesn't at least occasionally get angry. Maybe it's more true that he doesn't express his anger? (In which case, I hope he has some other outlet for it.)

Sometimes when anger is the ONLY emotion you see from someone who is one of your early childhood role-models it makes you very afraid of expressing anger. Just sayin'.

Goldberry said: Oh, honey, I do hope this comes true. IdoIdoIdoIdoIdo!
What I would give to see a video of Elijah singing scat.....sigh

Maybe there was someone stategically planted in the audience. And maybe that person just happned to have been taping Mr. Wood's "vivacious vocalizations?" And maybe that tape will make its way into the hands of the guys who are producing the Joy Division movie? And maybe, just maybe, somebody's saying "you should watch this, he has an interesting face and voice!" And maybe, just maybe that someone will say "I feel like I've just met Ian Curtis!"

Hey, it's happened before! ::hopefully::

honey!

Maybe there was someone stategically planted in the audience. And maybe that person just happned to have been taping Mr. Wood's "vivacious vocalizations?" And maybe that tape will make its way into the hands of the guys who are producing the Joy Division movie? And maybe, just maybe, somebody's saying "you should watch this, he has an interesting face and voice!" And maybe, just maybe that someone will say "I feel like I've just met Ian Curtis!"

Here's the latest thing I found, from January 7, 2005 (not sure if the link is OK) -- it doesn't sound good for Elijah:


_______________________________________
Control: The Ian Curtis film
(working title)
Page updated January 16th 2005
Filming to commence 2005


Ian Curtis Film News: Working title is now Control

Notes from Claraflora press conference ("Claraflora" - Peel
Suite, Radisson Edwardian, 12 noon, January 7th 2005) :


Matt Greenhalgh, Anton Corbijn, Orian, Todd, Deborah Curtis, Tony Wilson
Photo (C) Copyright Joy Division Central

Producers : Todd Eckert and Orian.
Co-Producers : Deborah Curtis and Tony Wilson
Writer : Matt Greenhalgh
Director : Anton Corbijn

Working Title : Control (AC's idea).

Lead Role : "In dialogue with certain actors that you know", "Universally open field", "Specific ideas", "We would love a local actor", "Producers are the only Americans involved in the film". Todd also stated that certain actors have been suggested, but Deborah has turned them down. Difficult job as the lead actor has to satisfy DW/TW/AC/Joy Division and everyone who knew him. No actors that have been approached have turned them down.

Location : Manchester, possible some Euro locations.

Tony Wilson : "All music films are *". "The miracle of 24 HrPP was that it didn't go wrong". "Todd/Orian are not the usual movie people *ing up music". "Joy Division were NOT from Manchester".

Todd : "The idea of JD as the 'Ultra dark experience' is totally false. It was all about energy. This is the job of the film." He said everybody wanted to convey the honesty that was contained in the book.

Matt : "Proud", "IC was GOD", "Lot to live up to", "It's best to have producers with american accents".

Orian : His idea to do the film, have been awaiting Deborah/Natalie's trust.

Timetable :
Screenplay - end of February.
Casting - March/April.
Finance - Cannes in May.
Preproduction = July.

Music : Moby will be involved - even though he was going to be involved with the rival film and the producers of this one weren't initially keen. The music will have an original JD soundtrack - and there will be another soundtrack with JD cover versions. Bands will be given a song and just 'a couple of days' to record it. No bands that have been approached have turned it down.

Misc :
Ian Curtis was a City fan. Wilson didn't know this, DC confirmed it.
Wilson's glad of Corbijn as he can get revenge on Rob. For years Wilson thought everybody hated the Atmosphere video, but only found out last year that it was actually only Rob who hated it, the rest 'loved it'.
Malcolm McLaren has done a 'mix' of JD 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' and Capt & Tennille's 'Love Will Keep Us Together'. Wilson played it at the conference.
Wilson maintains the favourite name for New Order (before New Order) was 'Happy Valley Dance Band'.

__________________

Also, from The Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/music/story/0,,1389649,00.html

Nevertheless, casting could be a tough call. Rumours linking Jude Law with the role have been mercifully ruled out, while other candidates have apparently been vetoed by Deborah Curtis. They could do a lot worse than check out Sean Harris's brief but effective performance in 24 Hour Party People.


And (note the line about American actors):

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/news/story.jsp?story=598815

Finally:

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/entertainment/filmandtv/s/142/142146_ian_curtis_film_to_be_shot_in_manchester.html

Thank`s for the links Achila!!! :k

Thou it dosen`t sound very good at all for Elijah!!!! :( :(

Well if this dosen`t work out for him,i realy hope he has something else to do!!!
As the worried soul i am,i`m getting a bit worryed about him!!!! :(
I mean that he`s not getting enough good scripts!!! :(
I `m not a religous person but in this case i`m realy is praying
for him!!!!! :z: :z: :z:


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

I remember Dominic being asked once about if he and Elijah were dating. Without skipping a beat or any hesitation, Dom said "Yeah, we're going to be married" with a completely straight face. And I'd be willing to bet that he and Elijah had what they called back home "a good hee-haw" over it later.

Recently I read an article about how some actor's careers could be ruined by gay rumors, and others wouldn't suffer any ill effects from the same rumors. It seemed that reacting to the rumors, with a statement flatly denying them, was pretty self-destructive. If an actor makes an "I am not gay" statement, then the perception will be that either they are homophobic, or that they are trying to cover up for something. Long way around to saying Dom's irreverent attitude may be spot-on in this situation, because he shines the light back on those who start the rumors.

Achila, great info in that post of yours about "Control," the Joy Division project. What Elijah said at ORC was that he has not seen a script. I don't know much about how these things work, but from the little I do know, it seems scripts get handed out rather broadly at first, and then a selection is made from the variety of people who were asked to audition for the part. I'm just glad that Jude Law has been ruled out! :rolleyes:

honey!

Achila, great info in that post of yours about "Control," the Joy Division project. What Elijah said at ORC was that he has not seen a script. I don't know much about how these things work, but from the little I do know, it seems scripts get handed out rather broadly at first, and then a selection is made from the variety of people who were asked to audition for the part.

The scriptwriter was only selected a couple of months ago (like with the director, who was announced in December), so this project is moving sloooowly. There isn't any completed script so far that I know of.

Thank`s for the links Achila!!! :k
Ditto :) .

Thou it dosen`t sound very good at all for Elijah!!!!
Their loss, methinks: did you catch the picture of IC in the last story Achila linked to? :eek: ! EJW's been turned down for roles before; just not so publicly. But it's too bad if it's something he really wanted to do.

ETA: Sorry, but I just couldn't not post this! A bit spooky, if you ask me.

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/outtakes/IanCurtis.JPG


Well if this dosen`t work out for him,i realy hope he has something else to do!!!
As CSL said to JRRT (slightly paraphrased ;) ), "If no one writes the sort of scripts we want Elijah to have [and he wants to have], we shall have to write them ourselves."

I'm not too worried about him, career-wise. Except for ESOTSM, no one's really seen him onscreen since LotR* (in the U.S., at least, where both AW and AIW went direct to video). He's playing three very different characters in movies opening this year--the lead in two of them. I think he'll be noticed, especially in EII (fingers and toes crossed for that one).

*ETA: Now, how could I have forgotten The Guy? :D

ETA: That picture is spooky! ::: shiver :::

I was forgetting, too - didn't The One Lad make a little movie in Manchester recently, where he made headlines, was practically adopted by football fans, was universally adored by the inabitants, and even got himself a football song? (Chim-chiminey chim-chiminey Chim-chim cheroo, The Lord of the Rings Star loves claret and blue...). I was thinking that there would be great resentment in Manchester over an American daring to play that role, but I suspect they consider Elijah practically a native. :)

At a press conference near the Lesser Free Trade Hall, where Joy Division played, he ruled out American actors.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So did Peter Jackson. ;)

It sounds like it would be a great role for Elijah; lots of angst and soul-searing emotion. Do we have any doubt that the lad who screamed at the Witch King's knife could pull off a 20th century epileptic rocker? Maybe they've forgotten that EW is American and think, because of his LotR performance, that he's British. :z: I understand why Mrs. Curtis would want to have final say, but I would be surprised if she had enough experience to realize what happens when an actor who can really *act* does so. But maybe he's used up his "American Actor gets Iconic British Role" card for this decade.

::: imagining EW playing in "The Life of Ian McKellan" about 20 years from now when he may actually look about 30 :::

~grumpy

WELL TG, I GUESS YOU RIGHT!!! :k :k


IF THEY TURNE HIM DOWN IT IS THEIR OWN FAULT

AND VERY BIG MISSTAKE!!!!! :( :( :(

AND MY HOPE STANDS ALSO TO HOLLIGANS and sin city
but they are very diffrent but maybe that is what he needs very diffrent scripts!!!!!!



LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

EDIT: SIMULPOSTED WITH GRUMPY,,,

DID JACKSON SATY THIS!!!! WOW!!

LUCKY FOR US HE CHANGE HIS MIND!!!

AND GRUMPY YOU ARE SO RIGHT !!!!
WHO BETTER CAN PLAY A PERSON WITH REAL AGANY!!!!!

ETA: Sorry, but I just couldn't not post this! A bit spooky, if you ask me.

Yep -- I thought that pic was too. I found quite a few independent mentions on the web of how much Ian looked like Lij (Amazon was one). Oh well.

As CSL said to JRRT (slightly paraphrased ;) ), "If no one writes the sort of scripts we want Elijah to have [and he wants to have], we shall have to write them ourselves."

Hey -- I'm looking for a new career -- maybe that's what I should do!

I'm not too worried about him, career-wise. Except for ESOTSM, no one's really seen him onscreen since LotR* (in the U.S., at least, where both AW and AIW went direct to video). He's playing three very different characters in movies opening this year--the lead in two of them. I think he'll be noticed, especially in EII (fingers and toes crossed for that one).

I'm with you, TG. I don't think that anyone has anything to worry about. Lij is going to have a VERY big year, owing to the advance buzz about both Sin City and EII (who knows what may happen with Hooligans -- we may not see that here until next year, the way things are going). I do think that Lij is Robert's "Ace in the hole", so to speak, with Sin City, considering how little has been said or shown about his character.

OH ACHILA!!!! DO SO WRITE HIM A GOOD SCRIPT!!!!!

THAT WOULDE BE GREAT!!! :k :k ;) ;)

WELL I GUESS THAT IS THE SAME OVER HERE THERE
IS NO RELEASE DATE FOR HOOLIGANS HERE YET!!! :( :(

OR SIN CITY OR EII!!!! :confused: :confused:
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY????? :confused: :confused:


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

...I suspect they consider Elijah practically a native. :)
Especially since he's planning to marry into the family ;) .

Maybe they've forgotten that EW is American and think, because of his LotR performance, that he's British.
Ah, but how could someone obviously born and raised with such a posh British accent ever sound Mancunian? :p

(Remember the professional imposter spotter in My Fair Lady who insists that Eliza can't be English because her speech is too perfect?)

But maybe he's used up his "American Actor gets Iconic British Role" card for this decade.
If so, IMHO he played it on the best possible hand :) .

And, wood, yep, completely true. PJ had sworn he'd get a Brit (and an unknown) to play Frodo. He wouldn't even look at Elijah's audition tape until Fran told him he should. She remembered Elijah from Ice Storm and told PJ he had an "interesting face." :) BTW, they'd looked at over 200 Brits for the role before then, not finding anyone with the "magic" needed to play Frodo.

tgshaw wrote:
I'm not too worried about him, career-wise. Except for ESOTSM, no one's really seen him onscreen since LotR* (in the U.S., at least, where both AW and AIW went direct to video). He's playing three very different characters in movies opening this year--the lead in two of them.
And although I know I’m repeating myself, I’ll say it again: he’s still VERY YOUNG, and he has a lot of time ahead of him. If he’s in it for the long haul, and focused (as he seems to be) more on doing good, interesting work rather than in splashy roles in blockbusters, he should do fine. We all would love to see him in a new movie every month (well, I would, anyway ;) ). But film-acting careers don’t work that way, obviously.

tgshaw also wrote:
But, then, I find the "balcony scene" in Forever Young cringeworthy, while other people say it's their favorite scene in the movie...
I thought it was pretty corny, and made more so by the choice of song. (Would a kid really sing “You Are My Sunshine”??) The library scene was much better, as far as efforts at flirtation went.

Belated to Mariole: I just saw your so-called “unoriginal contribution” that you posted on Friday! (It didn’t download before – I was getting red Xs.) Oh, my goodness! That’s one to save! (I do wish he would wear his glasses more often.)

zkgrumpy wrote:
I think Dom's fuse is a lot shorter than Elijah's, though. Didn't he tell some woman to her face that she was mad?
I believe that was the dreaded Ms. Allegra or Allegro or whatever she calls herself. The Bag End Inn person.

Continuing with this, just in case you were wondering who else was on the list, and what number Elijah was...

1 Johnny Depp
2 Matt Damon
3 Tom Cruise
4 Mike Myers
5 Angelina Jolie
6 Elijah Wood
7 Lindsay Lohan
8 Jessica Simpson
9 Hilary Duff
10 Charlize Theron

*Kumari de-lurks once again*

Hello there. I've just popped in to say hello and to post my latest drawing of Elijah in his role of my favourite character. :) "Frodo's Journey Begins" was posted in Frodo's Harem by courtesy of Mechtild today. (I had all sorts of problems with my computer last night - I'm keeping my fingers crossed this works tonight!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/Maewen/FrodosJourneyBegins-KD.jpg

I’d particularly like to thank tgshaw who screencapped the scene several months ago at my request. It is very much appreciated, especially since she was experiencing major problems with her computer at the time!


*Kumari re-lurks!*

Re: Elijah playing Ian Curtis (fingerscrossed fingerscrossed fingerscrossed fingerscrossed fingerscrossed fingerscrossed fingerscrossed fingerscrossed)

Here’s an interesting interview of the guy who played the same role in 24 Hour Party People. (He’s definitely not up to play the role again – forget where I read that, probably here!)
Note: it is a bit sweary, I’ll edit it out if that’s not suitable.
(Yes, it is sweary. ;) Edited, and the link PM'd to Random in case she wants to put more in the post. :k Narya )

However, a few interesting bits:

For a singer who was so unique in every nuance and expression, it's no mean feat to try and pull off the role.
….
Another thing I got about Ian was the fact that he seemed to have very, very individual relationship with everyone... his relationship with Vini was very different to the one with Lindsay but it was a different one he had with Tony or Barney. They're all pretty destroyed by it, he had a huge effect. They felt that he was my best friend, or he was more intimate with me and they kind of realised he had a real individual relationship with each person.

Yeah, I think Elijah can do it. ( :

HI ALL!!!! :k :k

KUMARI,THANK YOU FOR POSTING IT IN HERE
THE DRAWING IS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! :k :k

THANKS RANDOM FOR POSTING THE LINK!!! :k :k

I AGREE WITH YOU ,I DEFINETLY THINK ELIJAH
COULDE DO IT!!!!! :k :k

IF NOT HIM,WHO ELSE CAN!!!!!??????


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

I convinced my brother to finally view the entire LotR trilogy over the Christmas holidays with me and he's overly critical about most of the movies we watch together (a common theme in my family)....anyway....he was shocked when I told him the Frodo he enjoyed so much was played by an American actor. He wasn't familar with Elijah in other movies and he was quite impressed when I informed him #1 he's American and #2 he was only 18 when he began these movies. I believe his comment was something of the nature of "quite a leap of faith for the producers of these films to hand over such an important role to a teenager." I have to admit that comment made me beam with pride , because isn't that what we all feel :k pride and faith in Elijah...he can do just about any role and make us believe in his character!

Isn't it great when you introduce someone to what we all know? :D

Hi y'all,
Well, for Mariole, and anyone else who was wondering...I have finally, after a few days of illness, managed to watch "Forever Young" this afternoon...

I have to admit, this movie was much better than I expected it to be...I don't know why, but I was assuming that it would be yer normal straight-to-video, weekday-afternoon-on-an-obscure-channel kind of movie :rolleyes: ...

However, I was wrong...whilst it wouldn't be a movie that I would be thinking of buying any time soon, it was actually quite an enjoyable, if highly improbable, tale...yes, my disbelief was suspended !!

Elijah turned in a very creditable performance indeed...with some highly amusing moments...


"FOREVER YOUNG" SPOILERY AHEAD :-


"I like your dress..."

"Thank-you !"

"Looks like wallpaper..." :lol:

The end sequence, in the plane, really had me on the edge of my seat, even though I knew from tgshaw's screencapping, that it was going to be OK, and just like in his anguished outburst in "The War", gave him a chance to really show a big range of emotions, from excitement, to fear, to panic, to total concentration, to stunned relief, to out and out exhileration at having landed the plane safely...

Even though the story was as far-fetched as it could be, it didn't really matter, as all the actors engaged you in their little drama, and you cared about what happened to all of them...and I thought that Mel Gibson was pretty good, no, excellent, as the test pilot who lost fifty years of his life...


(END OF SPOILERY)


Adam has just arrived home with a present for me .."The "The Lord of the Rings" Guide in all Media" book by Jim Smith and J Clive Matthews, published by Virgin Films...( because I'm not well ...he said he thought it was better than flowers !! :p )...which is a guide to the books, the radio adaptation, and all the films, Ralph Bakshi included, I guess...
Awwwwww...he does indulge my little hobbies !!! What a treat !!!
:k :k :k

And for anyone who wants it, is a moving gif of the litttle girl being hugged by Elijah at the ORC...

Elijah hug gif (http://bunnie.mothtoaflame.com/video/elijah_child3.gif)

Lady Wendy - Glad to hear you enjoyed 'Forever Young.' I like the onion chopping scene.

I hope you're feeling much better. A dose of Elijah usually does the trick! Repeat medication 3 times daily! :)

What an adorable little gif. Thanks for sharing that. Love the tilte - 'Moth To A Flame.' Did I see Bunnie's name there?

Kumari - Thanks for another beautiful drawing. :)

Hi y'all,
Adam has just arrived home with a present for me .."The "The Lord of the Rings" Guide in all Media" book by Jim Smith and J Clive Matthews, published by Virgin Films...( because I'm not well ...he said he thought it was better than flowers !! :p )...which is a guide to the books, the radio adaptation, and all the films, Ralph Bakshi included, I guess...
Awwwwww...he does indulge my little hobbies !!! What a treat !!!
Does he have an unmarried brother? ;)



And for anyone who wants it, is a moving gif of the litttle girl being hugged by Elijah at the ORC... :::: melts into puddle ::::

I wonder what she thought of the cloves?

~grumpyandwonderinghowIcanmasqueradeasaweepingtoddlernextcon

BLOSSOM GREAT TO "SEE" YOU !!!!!!

OH LADY WENDY,THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR THE GIF!!!!!!!! :k :k :k
ISEN`T HE THE SWEETEST,AND THE LITTLE GIRL TOO
OF´CURSE!!!!! ;)

I BET BLOSSOMS CURE WILL HELP YOU OUT!!!!!! :lol: :lol:


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

What an adorable little gif. Thanks for sharing that. Love the tilte - 'Moth To A Flame.' Did I see Bunnie's name there?
Yes, Blossom, that's mine. My first attempt at an animated gif. And having done it, I have to say that I understand now how hard it must be to make the files smaller! I didn't really try to do so with this one, though. Isn't he just the sweetest?

And along those lines, a little snippet of an account of getting Elijah's autograph at ORC, from a LiveJournal user by the name of laurel_dorinan:


Then Christine (Sean's wife) moved behind the table to speak to Elijah. She gave Elijah a big hug and a kiss; it was obvious that they are like family. Also obvious that this was goodbye for awhile. Now there was only me and one girl in front of me. Elijah paused before giving us our autographs as Ali (Sean's daughter) came around to hug and kiss Elijah. He spent time talking quietly to her and giving her hugs and kisses as well. Then he looked up into my eyes as they left and said, "Goodbyes are hard!" There were tears in his eyes. He began to sign the autograph for the girl in front of me and said, "I'm sorry." I don't know if he was apologizing for being emotional, for keeping us waiting, or what, but I said, "Please don't apologize! That was important." He nodded in agreement, smiled at me and then signed my picture.

As a friend of mine said, there are so many reasons to love him.

Incidentally, "Moth to a Flame" is the domain name, and for similar reasons. ;)

Bunnie - Congratulations on your first animated gif. As for the subject - now how do you follow that one?

Thanks so much for that little story from Orc. The One Lad is certainly very special!

there are so many reasons to love him.

Yep!

Thanks for that sweet gif, Bunnie, and the ORC story. I must say, I came home from ORC knowing I'd lost a sizeable bit of my heart to that lovely man.

honey!

Bunnie
Oh, I am sorry...I didn't realise it was your Live Journal I linked that from !! I have to say that I am always in awe of people who can make these little movies from still pics, so congratulations if this is your first attempt...it's really good !!
Our Blossom is the champ around here, of course, but occasionally, I come across a little gem in LJ-Land, which is where I have been lurking today...and it didn't cross my mind that that LJ was yours...and I feel really guilty that I forgot to credit, as I usually try to do, but, in truth, I have visited so many LJ's today, that I lost track of where I had come from or gone to, if you get my meaning !!
:o :o :o

Bunnie
Oh, I am sorry...I didn't realise it was your Live Journal I linked that from !! That's okay, Lady Wendy. I understand! I used to have all my little areas of the internet nicely isolated from each other, but in the past year or so, the boundaries between them have grown thinner and thinner. Though I don't go around advertising my LJ, a lot of people that I've known elsewhere have stumbled onto it (for better or worse ;) ).

I have to say that I am always in awe of people who can make these little movies from still pics, so congratulations if this is your first attempt...it's really good !! Thank you! That one really wasn't that hard, but trying to make the icon/avatar that matches it almost did me in (it had to be under 40K)!

and it didn't cross my mind that that LJ was yours...Well, that's understandable. It's a very different version of 'me' that you see over there. ;) Just another facet of the whole, though.
and I feel really guilty that I forgot to credit, as I usually try to do, but, in truth, I have visited so many LJ's today, that I lost track of where I had come from or gone to, if you get my meaning !!
:o :o :oReally, don't worry about it! I have been guilty of much the same thing. I spend a lot of time running around and snagging videos and photos, and I'd be hard pressed to come up with the origins for all of them. I'm actually glad that you shared it over here, because it didn't occur to me to do so. :) Thank you!

Where's Bunnie? And Shireling? we want to hear from you two about your experiences with the One Lad!
honey!

I’m here finally, Honey!! And yes, I really am still trying to catch up with everything since we got back- emails, LJ messages, all the lovely posts here – not to mention boring RL stuff. It was so lovely to meet you and Alyon – I really wish we’d had a chance to talk for longer. And I wish I’d been next to you in the photo-op line so I could have had a proper look at the book – I was a bit panicky about the length of the queue and worried about losing my place, I hope I signed my name ok, I remember my hands were shaking :o So glad to hear you’re putting it on your website.
I have to keep looking at my photo-op pics with Lij (I had three!!) to reassure myself that it really did happen, that for a few wonderful moments I really did sit snuggled up next to him!! Isn’t he just completely and indescribably adorable?

Elijah looked like a porcelain doll.

That was my immediate thought as soon as I set eyes on him – a porcelain doll. And I had a tremendous feeling of protectiveness towards him :)

Yes! We did see Shireling! And apologies, for you are a lovely lady, but when you said, in your letter to Elijah that you'd met him before, I must confess that I thought "mmmm, doubling dippng are we? I mean, isn't this a bit much? Some people don't get to meet him even once!"

Oh yes – my second time. After CM4, where I’d only managed to squeeze out a few pathetic words, I’d promised myself that if I ever got another chance I’d do much better – and I did, just never imagined I’d travel thousands of miles to do it!! And I hope to do even better on my THIRD TIME. Because I’m determined there will be a third time – you’re right, its completely addictive. Has worrying vision of an extremely aged self staggering up to the ever-youthful Lij in 2025 :eek:

Alyon and I had worried that we'd stick out like demented thumbs at our middling age. We needn't have done. There was everything from little girls -- tiny ones, as young as 3 or 4. (One of these would have a very close encounter later in the day.) There were aLOT of women in our general age range, as well as gobs of much younger, fresher, less-gravitationally challenged ones.
And judging by the relative quiet in that hall, and then the excited bursts of laughter and squeeing, we are all quite smitten with the little creature who was escorted into the room at about 12:29pm.
The age-thing was my main concern too – and I believe I’m at least a decade older than you – but from the moment we joined the queue for preregistration on the Thursday night I was able to relax about this – I spotted people even older than me!! And my husband saw the ‘little creature’ being escorted in – but I didn’t !! This also happened at CM4, Roger spotted him before I did – he's tall, I’m not.

. He looked up at the photog, and put his arm across my back. For such a small man, his arm was surprisingly heavy, those wiry muscles I suppose, and very very warm.
And he hugs so tight – for our second pic he pulled me right close to him so that our heads were resting together – almost without thinking I tightened my arm round him and his arm responded by tightening again – it just seemed so natural! And for the third pic – he just placed his hand on my knee and left it there – oh dear, I can hardly believe I’m writing this, I must check those pics again to make sure I’m not dreaming . Sadly the hand on knee was out of shot :(

The suppository story! ::Elijah noticing he's on a pedestal, tries to kick it out from under himself::
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there. That’s exactly what he’s doing. I must admit as soon as I heard the words ‘embarrassing’ and ‘hospital’ I thought – oh dear, whats coming now – but he did tell it very well and he’s so right – you do leave your dignity at the door when you go into hospital.

I will copy out my LJ report but it will have to go in a separate post as its too long.

TBC

Anyway, this is what I wrote in my LJ – I wasn’t sure whether to leave the boring, non-Lij stuff in but you can always skip through that :) It isn't brilliant, not much detail, but I was still severely jet-lagged when I wrote it :( I did actually post one of my pics in with this – but I see no-one has posted their photo-ops here, so …. :confused:

BACK HOME!!
Horrendous jet lag, lost luggage, 24 hours delay on return journey. Was it worth it? Oh my God - yes, yes - a hundred times yes!! I'm so glad we decided to go - I will remember it for the rest of my life.

Our flight from Birmingham to Newark, NJ was delayed by an hour - not unusual, I know, but it meant we only just made the connection to LA. When we arrived - the ultimate nightmare - one of our suitcases was missing!! Apparently it never got put on the plane - don't know why - but thankfully it was delivered to our hotel that night. We arrived quite late on the Wednesday night but when we woke the next day I felt terrible - a splitting headache, throwing up - here I was in the US for the first time in my life and I couldn't get to see it, I just wanted to sleep. By late afternoon I felt a lot better and we had a look at Pasadena and the beautiful shopping centre. Its such a lovely place and we were so lucky with the weather considering what it had been like earlier. That night we went to the prereg and got our wristbands.

The highlight of Friday was seeing Dom on stage - he is a very entertaining speaker - but its a pity he couldn't appear with Billy, they're so hilarious together. Dom also took part in the panel for the "Ringers" documentary - this looks so good, I'm dying to see the whole thing. That night there was an 'ice cream party' and World Without Sundays were playing. I must admit this is not really my kind of music, but even so I could tell they sounded very professional and my husband, who knows more than me about these things, agreed.

Of course, Saturday was the big day for me. Elijah's photo ops were due to begin at 12.30 and as we ambled into the room about 10 mins before I couldn't believe it hadn't occurred to me that there would be a huge queue before that. And it was huge. However, my time finally arrived and I was ushered into the inner sanctum - a room with large, black curtains to prevent people from looking in. The impact of seeing him again can't easily be described - although he looks stunning in pics, when you see him in the flesh you really feel that no photo can do him justice. Although this was not the first time I'd seen him, he took my breath away all over again. There were still a few people in front of me so I was able to spend some time just watching Lij - the first sight I had of him he was wiping his face all over with a wad of tissues - I thought perhaps he was hot, then realised that someone had probably covered his face with lipstick!! The next person, a young girl, promptly plonked herself in his lap. So much for all their rules and regulations!! As everyone will have seen from all the pics, Lij has cut his hair. I thought I'd be disappointed if he did this, I was hoping he was going to keep it long, but it actually looked really nice. When my turn came I really felt in a daze. I'd ordered three pics, in the hope that at least one of them would be good. Can't remember exactly what I said, or what he said, but I think it was "Hello Elijah, its lovely to see you". He smiled the smile at me and said hello and something else which I don't remember. I then showed him the gift bag I had for him and explained a little about the contents - and then showed him the list of contents I'd taped to the bag. He seemed very interested and intrigued and I'm so happy to hear that they all took their gifts home with them. And then - be still my poor old beating heart - he put his arm round me ready for the first photo. You would think, after doing this so many times, he would be getting rather tired and perhaps just place his arm across your shoulders. No way!! He hugged me really tight, and my automatic response was to put my arm round him and squeeze tight too!! I will never forget how that felt - and I'm never washing that cardigan again - ever!! He then shifted position a bit for the next pic and as we were getting ready for the final pic he suddenly said "Wait a minute - whats that?" He pointed to an envelope I was holding in my other hand - he obviously thought it was something I'd meant to give him and forgotten about. I said "Oh thats just my tickets" - which seemed to amuse him and the photographer. For the final pic, he placed his hand on my right knee. Let me repeat that. Elijah placed his hand upon MY RIGHT KNEE!!! I sort of linked my arm through his, but all the time I was thinking - I don't want this to end. He just makes everyone feel so special, young and old - everyone. But of course, it had to end - I thanked him and walked out in a complete daze. My husband talked to me about everyday, mundane things like - shall we eat now? Eat? Didn't know what he meant - couldn't focus.

But there was more to come. Next we saw Sean and Lij on stage which was just wonderful. I won't go on too much about this because there are lots of detailed reports around. I'm sure everyone knows about the ballroom dancing, hugging the little girl who was crying, Lij's suppository story plus volcanic results, etc. This was followed by the autograph session. Billy was first in the line - he had a rather obnoxious man next to him who kept saying "No personalisations, no personal contact, no this, that and the other". Billy was his usual friendly, charming self and Lij was next. I gave him 3 things to sign, plucked up all my courage and managed to say what I hadn't been able to at CM4. I told him I'd met him last year but had been so nervous I wasn't able to thank him for being the perfect Frodo - I said he should have got an Oscar and nobody has every affected me like that before. I know - I hope - he's heard this a million times before, but he seemed genuinely pleased and appreciative. I then said that I hoped he'd come and see us in the UK again soon. He said "yes, we'd really like to do that" - always "we" - never "I". I had really hoped to shake his hand while I was saying this but didn't because of the 'no personal contact' man to the left. I wish now that I'd taken no notice of him and just taken Lij's hand anyway. And then I had to move on. Someone was talking to Sean and he did my signing at the same time so I never got to speak to him - but it did give me time to steal a few extra glances at Lij!! He just has an aura about him - I don't think it will ever be possible to describe it.

That night we all got dressed up for the Torn awards. I was so glad Elijah won the award for "Best LOTR actor in another film" - for Eternal Sunshine.

One disappointment was that I didn't manage to meet anywhere near as many people as I thought I would. There were several people I was suppose to make contact with and for one reason or another it didn't happen. However, it was wonderful to meet those that I did find.

Saw JRD on stage the next day - he was so entertaining, just brilliant. And the final thing we saw was Charles Ross performing his one man LOTR show. In half an hour, without any props or dressing-up, he enacted all 3 films - and it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Amazing.

And so we wended our way back to the hotel - it was over. I loved it - and so did my husband. When we left Pasadena it was like the most beautiful summers day you could get in England, as it had been most of the time. And this is winter!! I was really not ready to leave. And the Hilton hotel - we kept asking ourselves what we were doing there, it was sumptuous, just gorgeous - and we could only afford it because of the reduced rates given to those going to Orc.

(Have had to leave out a large paragraph here to shorten the post - it was only about all the little dramas on the way home).

Needless to say, all these little calamaties really don't matter one jot - I'm just so thankful that we decided to make this trip - it has left me with such very special memories and when I read my previous post I realise how very silly I was to worry about the age thing - there were people of all ages, from small kids to quite elderly. There will be another Orc next year - it would be lovely if the hobbits could look on it as an annual reunion - and if so, I just hope we can scrape together enough cash to repeat this wonderful experience:)

Oh, there's so much more I want to say - but it would probably just become babbling. In fact, I believe it already has so I'll close for now :D

BLOSSOM - I will write very soon :)

Lady Wendy, thanks so much for posting the video of Elijah hugging the little girl at ORC -- and extra thanks to Bunnie for doing whatever it was she did to create it. All I can say is, if I had been that mother, I would have pushed her out of the way and grabbed him myself! (This is why I don’t have kids. :D )

And shireling, thanks for your ORC tale. (Fanning self desperately, at description of EJW’s hug technique)

Good evening, Faculty!

RL has been keeping me busy so I've been catching up on all your fine posts.

At imdb.com, in the dicussion messageboard under "Hooligans," an August release date for England has been posted. Has anyone else seen this? (or have we discussed this already?--short term memory goes first! :rolleyes: )

Based on zkgrumpy's review, I finally read SA's book and...I liked it! (C4 dodges tomatoes, sausages and nice crispy bacon hurled her way by some Faculty members. ;) ) One thing he wrote I hadn't read or heard about:

"When the winner was announced, Peter and Fran and producer Barrie Osborne rose from their seats. I was sitting between Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan; at the end of the row, closest to the aisle, was Elijah Wood. Before walking to the stage, Fran turned to me and said, 'Let's go; the hobbits have to go with us.' Elijah raised his hands in protest. 'No, no. This is yours. I can't go up there.' But then Peter got into the act. And Fran and Philippa and half of New Zealand, it seemed, and suddenly there we all were, up on stage."

C4

Shireling, what a fabulous report! Thank you so much for sharing it.

If you don't mind, I'd love to see your Elijah pic. I know some people are shy about posting their pictures on a web site, but if you don't mind, I'd love to see it!

I had a tremendous feeling of protectiveness towards him :)
I've heard this before. I think this is some quality that others feel towards Elijah. He's got that certain something that has people band together on his behalf. It's all very intriguing!

ceefour, thanks for the exerpt! Cheers, all!

ceefour -- No tomatoes, sausages, or bacon (nor lettuce, nor mayo, nor toast) from me, regarding Sean's book. I enjoyed it, just because I'm fascinated by almost any accounts of the making of LotR. And while the man can be very annoying, and I certainly wouldn't want to live with him, he at least seems to recognize and acknowledge his own failings; and he seems to have learned and grown from his experience in NZ. My main criticism (and I think that of some other Faculty members): there just wasn't enough about Elijah!

Shireling
Thank-you so much for your ORC-encounter tale...and please do post your photos for us all to see...no idea why other people haven't, but I think we all need to see them...don't you, ladies ?!! :z: :z: :z: ( If you would like a photo-hosting place, rather than posting them here, for us to link to, just PM me and I'll help you out...)

Well, my google-alert is set for any references to Elijah Wood, and today, they alerted me to this little gem of an insult...
Are you ready for this ?

Wood was his second example from a film he also faults for being too long. "Remember, this is just my opinion, but the movie stars one of the worst actors to ever grace the silver screen. He only has one expression, period, no matter what happens in the three hours of this film. It's hypnotic. If you've seen any movies that star him, he's like that. I don't expect you to agree, but I have given a specific example to support the reason that said there was bad acting.

:confused:

Do you think that we could persuade tgshaw to send him a letter with a link to her "One expression" page at her site, to enlighten this idiot...it really makes me mad when people, not only say this kind of thing, but say it as part of a lecture. treatise, or any other piece of supposedly authorative/scholarly work, as an example to people they are teaching...how insulting in its lazy assessment, for that is what it is...

The article is actually about how to produce short and succinct pieces of writing, in other words, how to get straight to the point, when public-speaking or writing anything for public consumption, so the article isn't at all about Elijah, specifically, but I did think that it was unnecessarily insulting...
The rest of the article is here :-

Dowagiac Daily News article (http://www.dowagiacnews.com/articles/2005/02/01/news/dnnews1.txt)
:mad: :mad: :mad:

Do you think that we could persuade tgshaw to send him a letter with a link to her "One expression" page at her site, to enlighten this idiot...

Oh dear! I think the poor man is to be pitied! Obviously he suffers from the lack of some small, mysterious brain structure which makes it impossible for him to empathize with others. Possibly this was caused by an unusual distension of the ego. :rolleyes:

honey!

I think the poor man is to be pitied! Obviously he suffers from the lack of some small, mysterious brain structure which makes it impossible for him to empathize with others

I wish I knew how to contact this short-sighted idiot - he's seriously in need of one of my special letters :mad:

These folks who see naught but "one expression" astonish me. Alyon and I were standing at one of the vendor tables at ORC, looking at character photographs. It occured to me standing there, that the Frodo in the photographs barely resembled the man we'd met earlier that day. Movie Frodo has facial charateristics in common with Elijah, but he has his own range of expressions. I watched Oliver Twist the other night, and I would swear I saw Frodo and Elijah's younger brother, but he too had his own face, and range of expression.

Shireling, I meant to say how much I enjoyed your ORC report. I've kicked myself for not letting you get a better look at the book as we stood in line. I was in some sort of state of panic that morning! :k Addictive you say? ::whimper:: Yes, already I feel it.

honey!

At imdb.com, in the dicussion messageboard under "Hooligans," an August release date for England has been posted. Has anyone else seen this?

Ceefour, yes, I've seen that too. But I wonder how reliable this info is. The main info page is completely silent on the subject of release dates. Oddly enough, they disabled the already existing start dates link (which had info on the release dates for the Netherlands, Belgium and Poland) just lately. :confused: I very much hope this film isn't disappearing from the face of the earth!


Bunnie/Lady Wendy - thank you for your "teamwork", which brought us the übercute hugging gif :k

Lady Wendy - another unbelievable example for a "weird horse" person, indeed.:eek: :rolleyes:

Shireling, I too wouldn't be averse to see your photo op picture with Elijah! :) Thank you for your lovely report. And yes, do write a special letter to this poor blind man...


Kumari, your lovely drawing is very welcome here - the walls of the Faculty Lounge are covered with tables and charts, loads of printouts of screencaps, cartoons, a huge world map with little pins for every member, there are shelves bending with the weight of books on film, art, philosophy, religion, fantasy... stacks of abstracts and treatises and of course we have a wall for drawings and artwork of all kind. Much space to fill - keep the good work coming ;) !

I also got the article about that creep on my Yahoo alert this morning...shakes head. It's hard to understand how some people are so blind to something that's right in front of them. I think they get fixated on his eyes being so big and never go further.

Frodo, in particular, seems to arouse these types of comments -- I don't recall ever hearing anyone say this about any of Lij's other roles, before or since. Now, granted, the "one expression" this jerk means does come up a fair bit and if you don't like it, it would get on your nerves (particularly because you'd have to tolerate it through three movies). However, IF anyone were to blame for it, it would be Peter Jackson, and NOT Elijah Wood (notice my VERY VERY theoretical IF -- you all know I don't agree with such nonsense). I've come to really appreciate how much a director is responsible for an actor's performance, and even the best actor, given a lousy director (or a director with a poor "vision") can turn in a terrible portrayal. And it goes without saying that the reverse is also true.

I still hold to the thought that something about Frodo threatens men, and I believe this' the basis for this type of comment. Frodo is vulnerable and somewhat androgenous at times, and I don't think (some) men know how to deal with the feelings this arouses. So instead of looking at it rationally, they attack Elijah. MVVHO, of course!

I still hold to the thought that something about Frodo threatens men, and I believe this' the basis for this type of comment. Frodo is vulnerable and somewhat androgenous at times, and I don't think (some) men know how to deal with the feelings this arouses. So instead of looking at it rationally, they attack Elijah.

I think you are very right in this point, Achila.
The problem is not in EW's acting talents (and not in PJ's directinng skills! IMHO), but in prejudices and fears of modern psichology , culture and society. Elijah's Frodo is so much against standarts, common cliche of a modern men, that, I suspect, they instinctively are fear of him. And subconscious fear rises seizure and agression in people. They just try to rationalize this feeling that dicturb and scare them in some simple explanations. (IMHO)

Shireling - Horrendous jet lag, lost luggage, 24 hours delay on return journey. Was it worth it? Oh my God - yes, yes - a hundred times yes!! I'm so glad we decided to go - I will remember it for the rest of my lifeIsn't it amazing how such problems seem almost inconsequential when there are more important things on your mind. (Not to mention the fact that you're floating six inches above the ground!) I loved your account of your experiences at ORC (especially the hug - I always knew after watching Elijah's "Frodo hugs" that his hugs would be strong and memorable).

Wood, Blossom & Whiteling - thank you for your comments on my drawing. I appreciate it. It's something I do in my (not so) spare time! The bonus is that I never tire of the subject matter!
Kumari, your lovely drawing is very welcome here - the walls of the Faculty Lounge are covered with tables and charts, loads of printouts of screencaps, cartoons, a huge world map with little pins for every member, there are shelves bending with the weight of books on film, art, philosophy, religion, fantasy... stacks of abstracts and treatises and of course we have a wall for drawings and artwork of all kind. Much space to fill - keep the good work coming ! Whiteling - It's such a welcoming and comfortable place - if I close my eyes I can see it!


Kumari

I think they get fixated on his eyes being so big and never go further.
Great discussion! Very nice points, Achila, Rikka, and Honey! *applauds*

Possibly this was caused by an unusual distension of the ego. :rolleyes:
*Snort!*

Hi all!!!!

On what planet is this guy from?????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

I realy don`t have to say something about the subjekt!!!!
You ladies did so for me!!!!! :k :k :k

You hit the head of the nail,so to speak!!!

I can`t feel any symphaty for this man!!!!! :confused: :confused:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/3569frodo.jpg

How can anybody say that this man has one expression!!!!????? :confused: :mad:


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Here's one further thought on the "one expression" thing. Perhaps this misconception has come about because when Elijah makes "that" face, it's one of the only times in the trilogy where he's clearly "acting". So much of the rest of his performance is subtle, and doesn't register (to some) as him doing anything. So, after the fact, for those too blind to see it, when they recall his performance, the subtlety washes away, leaving only "that" expression. Sound plausible?

Achila:
I think i understand what you mean!!!

But i still can`t understand why some can`t see realy good acting
when it is just infront of them!!!!

But i can tell you about when my sister in law saw ROTK for the first time
Her comments all movie along was about Sam and Frodo.
Sam does the hole job, Frodo just follow him and weap and morn!!! :confused:
I was so upset about her comments !!! It still is some people who can`t see
inside Frodo and all the suffer he did!!!!!
But her boyfriend made me happy when he sade,Well Sam does the body work
but it is Frodo who carryes the havy burden who suffers in his soule!!!!!!!

I guess it is the same about Elijah`s acting some people with good eyes see
and then it is the blind mouse who can`t see anything!!!!!!

Well i hope you all can see my point here!!
cuse i think i rumbel so i don`t remeber what i was supose to write!!!!
But i guess you all know me by know!!! :(

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Perhaps this misconception has come about because when Elijah makes "that" face, it's one of the only times in the trilogy where he's clearly "acting". So much of the rest of his performance is subtle, and doesn't register (to some) as him doing anything. So, after the fact, for those too blind to see it, when they recall his performance, the subtlety washes away, leaving only "that" expression. Sound plausible?

Achila, clear, pls.... What exact Frodo's face expression did you mean when you spoke about "that" face and "that expression" where EW "clearly acts"?
Is it "Isildur smile"?
You know why do I ask about it? I met a lot of people who "didn't see" any acting in EW's work in FOTR and TTT, insisting that he is a bad actor and can't act at all... But after the 3d film they suddenly said: "Well, in ROTK this fellow finally made some good acting! We admit that he was great at the Crack of Doom in the Ring claiming scene ! It's only a pity that he failed his role in the two previous films"...

At first I was quite surprised by this turn, but later I thought this is quite understandable. A lot of people, rased on today's mainstream movies and Hollywood blockbusters are absolutely not used to getting subtle acting. They just "don't see" it. They need some extra bright, accentuate acting to see and understand, not "pastel" and "engraving"...

When at the Crack of Doom the Ring finally breaks Frodo, his personality, transmiting him in something else - some different and terrible creature inside empty shell of Frodo's body... then... oh, yeah, EW definetely acts here! Not like in all the movie. Before this scene or after it he IS Frodo - in different moods, circumstances and conditions... But here he becomes something else, and something terrible - just before our eyes! And this change is so strong, frightening and radical, that even EW's haters suddenly realised that there is great acting before them!

It's only a pity that they are too blind, to see more subtle things in acting. :rolleyes:

wood Great pic! :k Thank you.
BTW, I also had such an argument on Frodo and Sam subject - with my God Mother... Alas, I couldn't make her to change her mind! :rolleyes: She is a definite Samwise the Brave fan. :D

Well, this is hardly an original thought, and I think it's been said here before. But Frodo is an internal character. I think Elijah does an absolutely amazing job of showing what's going on in Frodo's heart with his incredibly expressive eyes, and forehead. (That's why I really don't like his hair longish, btw.)
He really helped me to understand Frodo, while in the book we see the struggle mainly from Sam's POV.

I can only speculate why some people can't see how articulate he is without saying anything. Maybe it's because they are used to more action-oriented characters. I wonder of that writing teacher fellow ever read the books? Ever understood the nature of Frodo's heroism?

A lot of "actors" are really pantomime artist compared to Elijah. His art if very subtle. I think some people just aren't used to it, and can't see it well enough to open themselves up to feeling it as well.

Just breath, and remember what Liev Schreiber said: "best hobbit in the..." Ooops! No! I think it was "Jonathan needed to be someone who, without doing much on the surface, could convey a lot behind the eyes, ...And I really don't think there is anybody in the business with better eyes than Elijah Wood." The people who matter see his true talents.

honey!

Achila, clear, pls.... What exact Frodo's face expression did you mean when you spoke about "that" face and "that expression" where EW "clearly acts"?
Is it "Isildur smile"?

Hi Rikka,

No, I think what the guy in the article meant, and what I meant, is that wide-eyed, frightened look that we see at various times in the movies -- like in Moria, for example.

Honey, you and I basically said the same thing, but you did a better job of it, I think. People have gotten so accustomed to actors who scream/cry/rage etc., and they consider that great acting. But I think anyone can do that. It's the subtle, internal emotions that are difficult to do naturally.

ETA: Just went to check Dougie Brimson's website, to see if there was any Hooligans news. This was his posting for Jan 7 -- sounds like we might know something soon:



07 January 2005

A belated 'Happy New Year' to all and sundry and here's to a great 2005.

Unfortunately it's got off to fairly quiet start so as yet I have nothing to report although I can say with some degree of certainty that will change in the very near future.

Watch this space!!!!!

Dougie

Hello All

Wonderful posts one and all


People have gotten so accustomed to actors who scream/cry/rage etc., and they consider that great acting. But I think anyone can do that. It's the subtle, internal emotions that are difficult to do naturally.

Did you mean.....The Sean Penn school of overacting!!!!oops...did I say that?
I truly believe I could tolerate someone who thinks Elijah looks "wierd" not everyone thinks he's as yummy as we all do.....but a bad actor? Now that really fires me up. I always respected his acting even before he captured my heart as a total babe!!!
Some people's taste is all in their mouth. :mad:

I always respected his acting even before he captured my heart as a total babe!!!
My thoughts exactly. I can only shake my head in utter bafflement at the ones who can't see it.

AT LAST SOMETHING IS BEGINNING TO MOVE AT THE HOOLIGAN FRONT!!!!
IT IS SO QUIET ABOUT THAT MOVIE NO TRAILERS
NOTHING!!!!

STARTING TO BELIVE I HADE A DREAM ABOUT THAT MOVIE!!!!

MAYBE, IN THIS MOVIE ALL THIS POOR PEOPLE CAN SEE
WHAT A GREAT ACTOR HE IS!!!
NOT TO ´FORGET WHAT A HOT BABE HE IS!!! :p :D

I MEAN THIS PEOPLE OBVISLY CAN`T SEE GOOD ACTING
IF THEY DON`T SEE ANY FIGHTING AND REAL ACTION !!! :confused: :(

BUT AS YLLA SADE ,NOT EVERY ONE CAN THINKS HE IS A BABE
AND HE CAN ACT!! BUT HEY IT`S THEIR LOST AND MORE FOR US!!!!
:p :D :cool: :lol:

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

I can only shake my head in utter bafflement at the ones who can't see it.

Me too, Bunnie. :confused: Of course everyone's entitled to their opinion. But there are those - besides all of us - who do see Elijah's talent. I think we're all in need of some 'Elijah is a great actor' therapy, after that man's insulting remarks. Wood, perhaps he should take a look a your wonderful collage.

Anyway, I'm sure you've all seen these quotes before - I dare say Serena has posted them at some time - where are you, Serena? They're well worth looking at again.

A ‘Fellowship‘ review:

. ..But I cannot say enough good things about Elijah Wood as Frodo. He is everything I had imagined "my" Frodo would be: full of life, a bit fey with those poetic eyes, loving, committed, and surprisingly resilient. He's not as salt-of-the-earth as Sam, not as funny as Merry and Pippin, but full of love for his family and his home. He has an impossible task, he "does not know the way," but he knows someone has to destroy the madness which is the Ring, even though he also knows, or learns, that he is also not immune to its madness…

…And so the film succeeds because its cast is as close to perfection that a film could get, not the least of which is Elijah Wood, whose Frodo truly brings to the screen the Frodo whom so many of us imagined back in the bad old days of Sauron--I mean Nixon…

…But it is Frodo I remember, as it should be: the little guy with the impossible task, doing the impossible for love of his family and his home. There's not much from the book's chapter "The Council of Elrond" that makes it to the screen--indeed, there couldn't be; all that talk would have talked the movie to death. But when Frodo says, '"I will take the Ring, though I do not know the way," the film has its emotional climax…

Michael Allen


FOTR review:
Elijah Wood proves he was the worthy choice for Frodo. He was an instrumental part in all of the most moving scenes, and their emotional effect on me is the best testimony to Wood’s efforts.
Jim Chastain.

FOTR review:
In all honesty, the movie belongs to Wood. His cobalt eyes capture every emotion from his crippling doubt to his excitement at leaving home. His boyish features belie a depth of soul, just like the man-child from the book. He may be playing a hobbit, but he is the most human character to grace the screen this year.
Charlie Brown - Film Stew.com

ROTK review:
The look on Frodo's face as the eagle carries him above the lava is without a doubt the most beautiful and heartbreaking moment ever seen on film - we see Frodo's agony over his broken body and his experience, perfectly mingled with absolute ecstasy of the release. The way that shot lingers on his face and how without saying a word Elijah conveys that moment, is beyond my ability to put into words.
TORn reviewer


ROTK review:
It is hard to imagine actors who could have portrayed Frodo and Sam better. No film that comes to my mind has portrayed a more intimate and powerful friendship. Their transformation from simple whimsical folk to battered, beleaguered survivors is heartbreakingly convincing. Astin will likely earn more acclaim and attention for his part; tearful breakdowns win awards. But Woods’ emotional performance equals Astin’s, a riveting portrayal of disintegration.
Jeffrey Overstreet - Rotten Tomatoes


ROTK review:
Frodo, on the other hand, is so tormented and feeble it's hard to watch at times, but the soulful Wood plays it beautifully.
Kit Bowen - Hollywood.com



The "Rings" trilogy is also a monument to ensemble acting of the highest order… Wood is remarkable as Frodo, the heart and soul of the story.
Paul Clinton - CNN

And there are more where those came from! :D

Hi Shireling. Go on, send than man one of your special letters! :eek:

I haven't seen Moondancer around here for a while... I hope everything is OK.

Thank you, Blossom! we can all happily wallow in those for a while! :k

Hi, there, Faculty folk; I'm still lurking.

Thank you, Blossom, for that string of appreciative film Frodo reviews. :k They warm my old heart.

This one prodded me to say something:

Frodo, on the other hand, is so tormented and feeble it's hard to watch at times, but the soulful Wood plays it beautifully.
Kit Bowen - Hollywood.com
My daughter and I showed the EE of RotK to one of my oldest friends, now a theology professor. After it was over, we asked her how she liked it. She said this and that, very affirming. We asked her about the Frodo scenes, since she hadn't mentioned them (we had shown her FotR and TTT previously, which she had appreciated, including Frodo's characterization).

She confessed something like this:

"I'm afraid I didn't watch any of the scenes with Frodo."

"What? They were the best parts!"

"Maybe. But they were too awful to watch. I could watch the spider part, but not anything after that. It was just too awful."

She did not mean she thought it was too poorly done; she meant it was "too awful" -- too excruciating -- to witness.

True, this is my most squeamish movie-watching friend, but, still. She never flinched during the battles and gore; she thought those very well done. But the Frodo-in-Mordor material she could not watch.

That says a lot to me -- about the power of the movie for a newbie -- and for the effectiveness of the moviemakers and actors in portraying those scenes which she could not bear to watch -- for being "too unbearable."

~ Mechtild

My younger daughter is almost 13 now so she was, what, 9 when FOTR came out? She was pretty scornful of Frodo then, and in TTT as well, preferring Aragorn and his athleticism and flashy swordplay. We had to give up discussing the films because we argued about Frodo all the time.

I will never forget the first time we saw ROTK.

During those scenes that your friend, Mech, wouldn't watch---

----she cried.

She's never cried at the movies before or since.

Between my online class for college and considering this an online class in "research" techniques, I think I'll be on this computer quite a bit. Of course, "research" beats "developmental psychology" anyday. :D This post is a little late responsing to:

tgshaw regarding the Forever Your Girl video,
Since I first posted, three copies have been sold, and it's pretty safe to say that the first two were for Elijah's sake--since they were bought through the link on my website, and I don't think it draws too many Paula Abdul fans .
*Raises hand when the Dean inquires who bought the video.*

and I am in total agreement with Narya,
Honestly, the things an Elijah Wood fan will put themselves through in order to complete their collection.
I know the above was spoken about Paradise but I think it can be applied to the Forever Your Girl video. The only reason I say that is because...I had seen a couple of screen caps from somewhere of EJW in it. When I watched the video, them pictures happen to be the *only times* he is in it. If you don't know it's him, you wouldn't know. But, :) my collection is only missing Day-O now. So for that, it was worth it.

Hello gia21!

Blossom, many thanks for the lovely reviews! :)

If anyone wants the silly professor's name, it's

Mark Edward Dressel
Center for Effective Communication
110 Stokes NE
Grand Rapids, MI 49505
616-361-2071
Switchboard.com lists the phone as 616-363-4054

according to cateressea on LJ. She said she knew him "as an English teacher either in my high school or junior college in Grand Rapids, aka "Bland Rapids" to many of us who grew up there." Sorry, no email. The plan would be to send him piccies of Elijah's expressions -- the collages would be great!

Center for Effective Communication

I don't know what to say. This man seems to be unaware that there are organs, other than one's brain, with which one can communticate. I'm really rather frightened that there are people like him teaching! This guy sounds like a poster child for Academics Anonymous, those dwellers of the ivory towers who've forgotten all that really matters in everyday life. If we prick him will he bleed ink, and dry treatises?

So...::rubbing hands together in glee:: are we really gonna do this? Yeah, I think so. :haha:

stamps fresh ink cartridges in printer plenty of 20lb paper envelope...

a good night's sleep...

Mech and Flourish, loved your RoTK stories!

Welcome Gia21. What brings you into the Wood-work?

honey!

Well, it seems that several other people must have their Google/Yahoo-alerts set for mentions of Elijah on the Net, as there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth down in LJ-Land today, over the very same article...methinks this little newspaper is going to be beset by Elijah-fans, all screaming for his blood !!! :z: :D :D

If you do write to him to complain, and send him tgshaw's page of pics, just to illustrate the point, I have some thoughts on how to proceed...

1) I do think that the best and most effective way forward with this is to be extremely polite and respectful of his opinion, whilst gently pointing out the error of his ways...blowing up at someone never gets anywhere, it just gets their back up bigtime, and that won't do any good at all...

2) Sarcasm isn't really necessary...the point we're trying to make here, is that he has obviously got the wrong view of Elijah's school of acting, and this is what it's all about...

3) We need to remember that this is a guy who thought the films were way too long anyway, and therefore, he probably is no lover of Tolkien's work or Peter Jackson's work in bringing it to the screen either....He was very likely bored during the film anyway... :confused:

4) We, also, must accept the fact that there is probably no way that we will ever change his mind about an actor, on which his opinion is already firmly entrenched...
I say 'probably' because you never know...miracles have been known to occur in cases like this !!! The fact remains that a bunch of fangirlies getting their collective knickers in a twist ( because, believe me, this IS what he will think :rolleyes: !!) over his very uncalled-for remarks, aren't going to get him to change his mind just because we can prove it with pics !!

4) I think that, maybe, using his own methods to get our point across, will gain a lot of respect from him, and go a very long way to dispelling the inevitable result of no.3 above...

I would very much like to see something being sent to him, after all, we have to stand Elijah's corner for him...( God knows, he won't - he's so self-effacing and un-ego-ridden, bless him :rolleyes: :k )...and I would hate our effort to get lost in the inevitable avalanche of abuse that is going to head this man's way, this week...

I would very much like to see something being sent to him, after all, we have to stand Elijah's corner for him...( God knows, he won't - he's so self-effacing and un-ego-ridden, bless him :rolleyes: :k )...and I would hate our effort to get lost in the inevitable avalanche of abuse that is going to head this man's way, this week...
Hee hee -- this guy isn't gonna know what hit him! Hell hath no fury like a fan (of anyone) scorned, and it seems that I have a talent for finding those who get unfairly picked on, both by the press and the public. But others get their share too -- you should see what they say about Orlando Bloom on Oscarwatch.

AFTERNOON ALL!!!!!

I THINK WE SHOULDE SEND THIS GUY SOMETHING!!!!! :mad:

WE HAVE TO STAND UP FOR MR.BEAUTIFUL!!!! :k :k
not that i think he can protect him self!!! :cool:

ACHILA,MAY I ASK ,WHAT ARE THEY SAYING ABOUT ORLI??

MY MOTHER THINK HE IS SO HANDSOME,HIM AND VIGGO!!!
DON`T ASK MÉ WHAT SHE SEES IN THEM!!! :rolleyes:


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Good morning, fellow Faculty members!

It's true: this Mark Dressel person is the same guy who was a wet-behind-the-ears young English teacher at my hometown high school. I found his photo on the English dept. page in my yearbook last night. Gotta be him. He's exactly the right age (6 years older than me, so he would have been 24 when I was a high school senior), former English teacher, it all fits.

In my letter, currently residing in my head ;) , I will include a photocopy of the yearbook page. :D Along with a portion of tg's "One Expression" webpage. :p Oh, this is going to be fun!

The danger at the moment is the strong urge to put too much 'snark' into my letter. Because, you know, I knew him way back when. Not well, but enough to rib him a little. :haha:

eta: Over on LJ, several people have made the point that it's the director who controls the actors' performances.

There is also the puzzling fact that this consultant is demeaning an actor's skill to presumably make a point about writing. Which seems a bit illogical.

I don't care what his opinion is in regard to Elijah's acting talent. I simply want him to stop making disparaging remarks about Elijah Wood to his captive, young and impressionable audiences.

Then there is the factor of the reporter who included these comments in his article about Mr. Dressel. Should we also flood the Dowagiac, MI newspaper with letters?

eta: Over on LJ, several people have made the point that it's the director who controls the actors' performances.
But even if it is the director, there was nothing wrong with young Mr. Wood's performance!

I gave myself seven minutes to write an letter to Mr. Dressler. I included the following two pictures noting that the first showed fear so convincingly that I felt it too. Specifically, I pointed out the whites showing almost in their entirelty around the pupil, and well known sign of fear.:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/fear.jpg

The second was this, which is a manifestly different facial expression:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/determinedcrying.jpg
I doubt I will convince Professor Dressler of anything, but I feel better.

honey!

[b]
At first I was quite surprised by this turn, but later I thought this is quite understandable. A lot of people, rased on today's mainstream movies and Hollywood blockbusters are absolutely not used to getting subtle acting. They just "don't see" it. They need some extra bright, accentuate acting to see and understand, not "pastel" and "engraving"...
I agree. I think the LotR movies were also confusing because they had a whole range of character types, which is actually more like real life than we usually see in movies. At least, for those who hang around with a variety of people (sorry - something happened last night that *really* got me steamed :( ). Anyway, we had Gimli's vocal approach to war, Aragorn's spare, deadly efficiency, with an occasional glint of enjoyment as when he saluted the Urukai, Theoden's transformation from helpless old man to someone able to inspire men to victory, Pippen's brainlessness, Sam's steadfastness ("but hope remains, while the company is true" - Galadriel had him pegged!). Then we have this quiet little guy, not much of a fighter, with the face of an angel, who gets gradually devoured internally over the 3 movies, and all the actor has to portray that is some dirt and torn clothing, a remarkable jawbone, and a pair of eyes where you can see down to the character's soul. I think that people get uncomfortable watching Frodo, without really understanding why. I've said before that it's sometimes hard to watch because I feel almost voyueristic - like I'm seeing something that we're really not supposed to see.

It's only a pity that they are too blind, to see more subtle things in acting. :rolleyes: I keep thinking of Gandalf's line from the book: "It may be that he will be like a glass filled with light for those who can see" (well, it's close, anyway!)

~grumpy

No, I think what the guy in the article meant, and what I meant, is that wide-eyed, frightened look that we see at various times in the movies -- like in Moria, for example.

Oh, I see now. Thanks Achila.

Dear ladies, reading your today's angry posts about that Mr. Dressel and his article, and about all the "refutation letters" plans, I begin to laugh, ;) thinking that this poor man should have know better - in what a risky bussiness he gets mixed up! :cool: Seems to me, he brought a hornets' nest about his ears! :lol:

But even if it is the director, there was nothing wrong with young Mr. Wood's performance!

No, absolutely not. And I guess I'm basically the one who brought this up a few posts back, but I guess all of us, because of the wealth of LOTR background materials, have gained a new understanding and appreciation of movie-making. In speaking for myself, I never thought I'd know this much about film and so on, being a music geek my whole life but never especially interested in movies (that is, until a little blue-eyed muse arrived, totally unexpected).

All that said, I don't think you can discount the contribution of the director to an actor's performance. We've all watched as Pete put Ian McKellen through take after take of the scene in Edoras, trying to get him to deliver the lines in just the way he wanted him to. It's not that Ian's a bad actor -- far from it -- but Pete had a particular vision in his head of how the scene was to go, and it took a while for Ian to match it.

So much has been made recently about Frodo and his "wimpification" -- I don't think we need to go into that much more here -- and how much of that is Elijah and how much of that is Pete/Fran/Phil, etc. Ultimately, though, an actor has to deliver what is asked of him/her. They can make suggestions and if a director is open-minded and not too married to their ideas, they might be welcomed. Some directors, however, do not allow any deviations from their vision (and I recently watched a "Making Of" documentary about a Brazilian film, and was stunned to see the director literally yelling at an actor for not giving him what he wanted -- very un-PJ like). Not everyone is into collaboration, and I bet that this is what can make an actor's life impossible at times.

I AGREE WITH YOU ACHILA!!!

I HAVE ALWAYES LOVED MOVIES, BUT SINCE LOTR CAME OUT
MY INTREST IN MOVIES, MUSIC, AND COMPUTERS HAS GROWN!!
ESPECELLY COMPUTERS,BEFORE I ALWAY´S THOUGHT MY OLDEST KID
SPENT TO MUCH TIME BY THE COMPUTER BEEING A REAL "GEEK"!!! :eek:

AND LOOK AT ME NOW!!!!! :lol:
I SPEND HOURÉS AND HOURES BEHIND THE PC. SEARCHING AND CHATING!!!
AND NOT TO FORGET FALLING IN LOVE WITH A "GEEK"!!!!!! :p :D :lol:
AND MEATING ALL OF YOU IS THE SECOND BEST THAT HAS HAPPEND TO ME!! :k :k :k
AND WATCHING ALL THE BEHIND SENCE HAVE FOR ,ME ANYWAY, GIVEN
MORE DEEPH TO THE MOVIES.KNOWING ALL THE HARD WORK FROM P.J,/FRAN/PHILLIPA ,CREW AND ALL THE OTHERS WELL YOU KNOW WHO I MEAN! AND THE HOLE CAST!!!!!

AND KNOWING ABOUT THE HARD WORK FROM THE ACTOR WE ALL LOVE
AND THE COMES THIS LITTLE :mad: :mad:
AND SAY HE IS A BAD ACTOR :eek: THAT IS WHAT UPSETS ME!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Dressel. His name is Dressel. Not Dressler.

We don't want to give him any reason to dismiss our letters. ;)

(Can’t remember whether anyone has mentioned this already.) Last night, I got around to watching the “Weta Digital” segment on Disc 4 of the RotK EE DVD. Since it’s all about special effects, there’s not much about the actors. But there’s a charming Elijah moment near the end. He and Peter Jackson are watching a scene (when he’s tangled up in Shelob’s web, I think) on what seems to be a portable monitor. And Elijah is just completely and unself-consciously delighted and amazed by what he’s seeing. “Oh, that’s great!” he exclaims, in an excited, almost squeaky voice. Adorable.

Rikka wrote (and honeyelf and Achila and many other people made similar points):
At first I was quite surprised by this turn, but later I thought this is quite understandable. A lot of people, rased on today's mainstream movies and Hollywood blockbusters are absolutely not used to getting subtle acting. They just "don't see" it. They need some extra bright, accentuate acting to see and understand, not "pastel" and "engraving"...
Yes. I always have to laugh at people who are so impressed by the outward manifestations of performances: a foreign accent (Meryl Streep – NOT one of my favorites – practically made a career out of these), or a feigned disability (e.g., Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man), etc. Not that these are necessarily bad performances. It’s just that what is being singled out about them is so obvious and showy. It’s like playing Richard III and getting praised for your hunchback. As has been said here before, an actor like Elijah, who can immerse himself in a role so completely that he “disappears,” seems so natural that many people don’t think he’s acting. (James Garner is another example of this, I think.)

Honey, that second picture you posted just became the very first one to be saved onto my brand-new hard drive.

I just could not resist it. ;)

I wonder if this Unknown Man or Men who are threatened by Frodo, and therefore Elijah, are likewise threatened by a guy who is only 5'6 and muscular? I wonder if Daniel Radcliff (Harry Potter) has this problem?

Wimpy looking guys are IN, because 6 foot hunky guys have been getting a free ride for too long. :lol: *

Is it true that Elijah's shoulders are the size of Sylvester Stallone's forearms? :lol: If so, let's see some proof, and send it to all the guys We know who are 6 feet tall and who have getting a free ride in the masculinity dept. :lol: As in the prf. who said that Elijah has only one expression. :lol:

The thought of Elijah's muscularity makes me tingle. Does Anybody else suffer from this? ;) (Besides, if a girl was 5'2 and stood in front of Elijah Wood, what would she see? :lol: ).

Disclaimer: I don't mean to sound like Jeaneane Garafalo speaking about "Pretty vs.Ugly Girls" and "Glorifying Women (Supermodels) that look like Freaks" but I couldn't resist. :p *

I posted this on my LJ but I thought you might get a kick out of it too:

My almost 12 year-old iguana, Frodo, is on medication for high blood pressure, which I get at our local pharmacy (he takes hydralazine and spironolactone, a diuretic, daily). The last time I was in the drug store, I noticed a banner that said that I could order his refills online. Sounded like a good deal to me, since I always have to drop off his prescriptions and either wait for them or come back. So last night, I registered him and ordered the refills to be ready for this afternoon (and you should know that the vet has these prescriptions made out to "Frodo Iguana S...", which always causes someone there to laugh -- hahaha -- a sick pet's a laugh riot, you know). No, that wasn't the funny part :)

Anyway, I went to pick up the prescriptions today and I said hello to the woman behind the counter, the same one who always waits on me but never recognizes me for some reason, and gave her my last name and spelled it. She turned around and looked through the lettered baskets for the correct bag, pulled one and then said the first name to make sure it was right: "Elijah?" My eyes must've popped -- I'm surprised they didn't roll down my face and onto the floor. And of course, the first thing I thought was, "What the heck did I do? Did I mistakenly use Elijah's name as the password or something else equally as goofy and it ended up being the name on the account???" But no -- it wasn't us, because as soon as I said, "Frodo", she found our prescriptions.

But what are the odds???? Not like that's a common name. I had a good laugh over this one when I got into the car!

Achila, that is too funny! :lol: this would have been one of those moments when my face would have gone totally red, I'm sure. I'd be the one needing the blood-pressure meds!

Just thought you'd all like to know that my daughter Casimir, and I worked on the web-site today. We'd been working out design details earlier, but now we're gettin' to the nitty-gritty part. Actually she is doing most of the work, as I'm technologically challenged. My part consists of saying "it would be really nice if..." She agreed to help me out with this, and anther un-related web-site, in exchange for using my car. She's a good kid! :k No promises on when you can all see it, but know that there is progress! :)

honey!

Just a snippet of information that made me happy:

Hooligans will premiere at the South by Southwest Film Festival (http://2005.sxsw.com/film/) in Austin, TX in March. :cool:

And according to Dougie Brimson's website (http://www.brimson.net/): Hopefully, around this time the producers will finally be able to announce details of distribution for North America.

Of course, that doesn't guarantee that it will be picked up, but I can feel a lot of collective finger-crossing even now... :z:

There is no date set for release in the UK, yet, but he suspects that it will be summer. And there may be yet another title change, but he has no idea what it will be. :rolleyes:

I don’t know, Achila. That’s pretty spooky!

Here is my contribution to strange Elijah reviews (discovered while wandering insomniacally around the Movie Review Query Engine). This one was on Paradise, in the Washington Post:
Wood, who was in "Avalon" and some 20 TV commercials, has a certain vole-like preciousness.
OK, I’m used to “bug-eyed” and “froggish.” But VOLE-like? What the heck does that mean? It’s a type of rodent, right?? Was this inspired by that glossy, dark-chestnut hair???

On the plus side, I found the following in the NY Times review of Flipper:
Mr. Wood, looking newly chiseled and handsome, is aging gracefully well beyond the realm of the child star.
Oh, yes. . . .

THANKS BUNNIE FOR THE NEWS!! :k :k

WHEN IT COMES TO HOOLIGANS EVERY NEWS ARE
WELCOME!!!!! :D



LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Good news about Hooligans, Bunnie!

Just saw The Aviator. De Caprio was good. Told my husband that it was "airplane porn." Normally big hunks of metal leave me...well, cold. But WOW! :eek:

honey!

ETA: a vole? :confused:

I do wonder whether they will hold Hooligans back in the UK until after the World Cup. I am not sure just exactly what the content of the film will be, or how much influence people outside the industry have, but I can't imagine the powers that be wanting football hooliganism to be the focus of attention running up to what will no doubt be another sensitive period. Especially if it is not shown in a really bad light, and I can't imagine the film focusing totally on the downside if it is about Elijah's character finding some connection with these people that he has been missing in his life up to that point.

I personally think it would be better if it came out after EII, especially if that it is a commercial success. That way Elijah will become known to a wider cross-section of the population as a comedy actor, and they will then comment on how versatile he is, even if they don't like content of the Hooligans film. The other way round, he might get the wrong kind of publicity here when Hooligans is out, and then some sectors of the population will simply avoid EII, and always think of him in a negative light.

Billy Connolly is always good to watch in films, but I keep coming across people who avoid his films because they think he will swear in them like he does in his stage show and travelogues.

Pelagia wrote:

Quote:
Wood, who was in "Avalon" and some 20 TV commercials, has a certain vole-like preciousness.

OK, I’m used to “bug-eyed” and “froggish.” But VOLE-like? What the heck does that mean? It’s a type of rodent, right?? Was this inspired by that glossy, dark-chestnut hair???

A thorough comparision reveals the striking resemblance between the young Elijah Wood and the common vole:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/paradise03.jpg
Elijah Wood

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/vole.jpg
Vole

As you see the critic must be right - and not to mention, a vole has also only *one facial expression*. :p :haha:

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Bunnie, many thanks for the news on Hooligans! Well, a visit in Texas for the film's premiere is a wee too far away ;) for me, but it's good to know that it does have a release in the States.

Skater girl said:
I do wonder whether they will hold Hooligans back in the UK until after the World Cup. I am not sure just exactly what the content of the film will be, or how much influence people outside the industry have, but I can't imagine the powers that be wanting football hooliganism to be the focus of attention running up to what will no doubt be another sensitive period. Especially if it is not shown in a really bad light, and I can't imagine the film focusing totally on the downside if it is about Elijah's character finding some connection with these people that he has been missing in his life up to that point.

That's quite possible. Football is stronly connected to industrial/political and whatever matters... I assume that even a little film on the sensitive topic of hooliganism represents a political issue.

WELL WHITELING,TEXAS IS TOO FAR FAR AWAY FOR ME TOO!!!! :(

MAYBE WE CAN CARCH UP ON NEARE SPACE!!!

BELGIUM,GERMANY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!! :k :k
BUT WHEN?? SOON I HOPE!!!

THERE IS SOME RECEMBLANS , IS IT THE ONE EXPRESSION??
OR THE EYES??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I THINK WE HAVE TO BUY THIS REWIER A PAR OG GLASES!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Hooligans will premiere at the South by Southwest Film Festival (http://2005.sxsw.com/film/) in Austin, TX in March. :cool:

And according to Dougie Brimson's website (http://www.brimson.net/): Hopefully, around this time the producers will finally be able to announce details of distribution for North America.

This' all great news, Bunnie -- thanks! Of course, I can't imagine what name they could possibly change it to, but who knows. Dougie also said that there are several other "hoolie" films in the works with other filmmakers, so they had better get their collective bums in gear to get their film out before these others flood the market!

This article mentions Hooligans (or "Hooligan" as they call it- is that the name change? ) too, but only briefly. However, its encouraging to see any mention of the film. The more mentions it gets seems to imply to me anyway, that its a definite for release. :z:

Brief mention (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2005/02/02/bvspall02.xml&sSheet=/arts/2005/02/02/ixartright.html)

Whiteling, that juxtaposition of photos was hilarious! Thanks!

A small favor to ask of you all--

Does anyone have a link to a website that featured behind-the-scenes pictures of the LOTR shoot?

I had it, once, but I just got a new computer and I seem not to have marked that link down as one to keep. :o

I believe there were mostly EW pictures there and I'm quite sure there were pictures of him in ROTK costume (among others)---standing next to Sir Ian Holm during the ride-to-the-Havens shoot, and wearing the traveling costume that barely made it into the film, plus I remember a few from FOTR t least.

It was not an official site, and I have no idea any longer what the name of it was. :(

But if anyone knows of it, please feel free to PM me with the URL :z: , or just post it here if that's allowed.

Thanks! :k

I believe there were mostly EW pictures there and I'm quite sure there were pictures of him in ROTK costume (among others)---standing next to Sir Ian Holm during the ride-to-the-Havens shoot, and wearing the traveling costume that barely made it into the film, plus I remember a few from FOTR t least.

Sorry I couldn't help, Flourish. But I hope you'll post the URL when you get it, since I don't remember ever seeing a site like that.

Hilarious, Whiteling! The vole does, indeed, seem to have "One Expression." And the eyes are prominent, true. But I have a slight quibble with this part of your statement:

A thorough comparision reveals the striking resemblance between the young Elijah Wood and the common vole
With all due respect, I do not believe the comparison was quite thorough enough. I have studied the vole picture in great detail, and I come to the conclusion that the vole differs from Elijah Wood in one important aspect -- that's right: the sternocleidomastoid.

When we compare a frontal view of the vole to one of, for example, Frolijah, we can't help but notice that, whereas Frolijah has an extremely prominent sternocleidomastoid, the vole has an elbow:

http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/proof.jpg
Exhibit A

While the Paradise pic is too blurry to reveal much of a sternocleidomastoid on young Mr. Wood, we can ascertain that even Baby!Lij at least has a neck.

Other than this, I believe the two young mammals are virtually indistinguishable. (Well, there is all that facial fur, but I don't want to split nits.) As Dr. Pelagia pointed out, the color of the glossy hair was probably enough to confuse this reviewer into failing to observe that the hair did not, in fact, cover the entire actor's face. But not everyone watches movies as carefully as we do in the Faculty, even when it's their job.

Thanks for the Hooligan news, everyone! I hope the timing works out, Skater girl. *crosses fingers*

With all due respect, I do not believe the comparison was quite thorough enough. I have studied the vole picture in great detail, and I come to the conclusion that the vole differs from Elijah Wood in one important aspect -- that's right: the sternocleidomastoid.

Prof. Dr. Mariole, I'd like to thank you for calling attention to the obvious imperfect observation - a nonexcusable mistake on my part. :o I am very sorry. I can't believe it, how could I forget about the sternocleidomastoid! :eek:
Perhaps said critic did emanate from a development biologist's viewpoint? But I must admit, that I've never heard of a mutation type "elbow into sternocleidomastoid".
Thanks again, Professor, for clarification. Respectfully, W. (research associate)

About the behind-the-scenes site--

No prob, Achila. I think the stie might actually have been a collection of screencaps from one of those "Making of" documentaries that came out around the release of ROTK, but it was definitely EW-centered.

Maybe that will ring a bell with someone?

Thanks again for any info. I'm Googling likely search phrases but not turning up anything much.

No prob, Achila. I think the stie might actually have been a collection of screencaps from one of those "Making of" documentaries that came out around the release of ROTK, but it was definitely EW-centered.


And you looked at Bag End Inn? Those caps are probably still on there.

Mariole, you're too much -- LOL

I'm sitting here with tears rolling down my face and I think I blew out my eardrums stifling laughter. I'm just glad I wasn't drinking anything when I saw the 'Lij/Vole comparisons. Man, I gotta be careful reading this stuff at work.

Honest to <insert name of benificent deity here>, you made my day.

BTW, I forget, do the One Expression composites contain the Mad Hobbit expression from when Frodo was trying to hack his way out of the spider web?

~grumpyandstillgiggling

Tee hee, Mariole. :lol: :lol:

I just finished Chapter 21 of my novel, which, as some of you know, as a character whose physicality was inspired by the One Lad (who came up with that moniker? I love it, I must admit). Writing is such tiring, but fulfilling, work.

I have to write a magazine article for a friend before heading off to Chapter 22. Only 12 more (approximately) chapters to go. Before revision. Bleech.

Thanks, Achila. The Bag End Inn shots are nice but what's left there is mostly from FOTR, and I recall clearly some scenes from the Havens that were obviously ROTK. Also, this site or page I'm looking for was very EW-specific.

Well, if anyone has a link to the candid shots of Sir Ian and Elijah with PJ filming the ride to the Gray Havens, I guess I could live with just that.

Thanks all! :k

While roaming around the Internet researching voles (which one site described as having small, beady eyes, so maybe he's more like a greater stick-nest rat from Australia which has large, round eyes than a vole, but I digress), I found this which reminded me of a confession at a recent conference by a certain actor...

http://www.earthsunmoon.com/products/item.php/512


:haha:

C4

Dear Research Associate Whiteling,

Please do not feel the least embarrassed! You did, after all, produce the vole! And a darned cute one it is! It is one of the pitfalls of research, however, in that we tend to see things through our own particular filters. In my case, it is the sternocleidomastoid. I am blind to many other aspects of the subjects in question: the glossy hair (well, actually no), the blue eyes (probably not), the... well, I'm certainly blind to the One Expression! I can't see it for the life of me. But the sternocleidomastoid... *sigh* It just makes my day. :)

Ceefour, would you say I'm in danger of not being objective if I think that the Amargosa Vole has cute perpetrations? :D ;)

if anyone has a link to the candid shots of Sir Ian and Elijah with PJ filming the ride to the Gray Havens, I guess I could live with just that.
Are you serious!?! *has heart attack*

Ereshkigal, good luck with the novel!

Grumpy, sorry about the eardrums! :k

Yes, Mariole, you have lost your objectivity ( and The Faculty their collective minds :p ) in this matter!

I'm trying to imagine Honeyelf and Alyon at ORC 2006 presenting EW with his new tee shirt from The Faculty and trying to explain the significance:

"But last year you presented me with that beautiful album and this year I get a tee shirt covered in :eek: !!"

C4

I'm trying to imagine Honeyelf and Alyon at ORC 2006 presenting EW with his new tee shirt from The Faculty and trying to explain the significance:
Didn't we tell you, C4? Next year it's YOUR turn! :D

honey!

reallyi'mtellinyatheywerethatbeautifulandwhenmrhugheswasupthereflyinaroundikeptthinkingiwannaknowwhatthatfeelslike

When we compare a frontal view of the vole to one of, for example, Frolijah, we can't help but notice that, whereas Frolijah has an extremely prominent sternocleidomastoid, the vole has an elbow

:lol:

I am so glad to see that the Faculty continues to apply such high and rigorous standards in its methodology. Only this way can it continue to deserve the critical acclaim so far heaped on it for its ground-breaking research findings. Well done!

Mariole and everyone, this made my day. Thanks!

Well, because the last thing I posted was such a downer, I thought I'd post something here that is definitely somewhat of an antidote to the negative things that Mr. Dressel had to say about EJW....

From the Review Archive at The Popcorn Chronicles (http://popcornchronicles.com/pop5archive.htm) :-


FOTR:

"Elijah Wood, who has been one of the best child actors to grace the screen, makes the leap to adult characters with the meaty role of Frodo. He is the center of the story and the engine that drives it. If the actor playing Frodo isn’t commanding and loaded with charisma, the film would be in real danger of collapse. Wood comes through like a trooper, bringing a soft dignity to his characterization from first scene to last. He is one of the rare handful of young performers who, like Jodie Foster before him, is simply a gifted actor, regardless of age."

"I don’t think enough can be said about Elijah Wood. Although he’s “prettier” than the Frodo in my imagination, he overcame my misgivings in his first scene. Wood didn’t destroy Frodo by playing the character, he simply let the character fall neatly out of the well-written script."

TTT:

"Elijah Wood’s Frodo is the glue that binds the story together, despite the fact that the actor logs less screen time in TWO TOWERS than in the first film. It is inconceivable to me that Wood won’t become a major star as his contemporary Tobey Maguire did after SPIDER-MAN. Since his first roles as a child in films such as Barry Levinson’s AVALON, it was clear that this wasn’t just a cute kid with a modicum of talent. Like Jodie Foster before him, Elijah Wood proved himself a real actor time and again; and Frodo is the role he was born to play."

"The acting was universally first rate. Elijah Wood didn’t have as much to work with in THE TWO TOWERS, but he hasn’t lost his ability to command the attention of the audience. He is able to maintain the focus when sharing the camera with some pretty impressive actors."

ROTK:

"Not enough can be said about the perfection of casting young Elijah Wood at Frodo. His watery blue eyes give him an other-worldly look to begin with. Add to that his undeniable talent as an actor and you have the perfect Frodo."



Oh, that's better, isn't it ? :cool:

I can't think of a more well-deserved and appropriate excerpt to send to Mr Dressel...( should anyone be so inclined ...:D )

Oh, that T-Shirt !!! :lol:
That would surely appeal to Elijah's scatological sense of humour...

Ceefour, I love that T-Shirt :lol:
I suggest it as official attire for a possible Faculty meeting or, alternatively, one with the inscription "Long lives Willard the vole!" :D

Mariole :k, please note that Grumpy has added the summary of your stunning result of the latest research to her sig. (Which is nice) ;)

Wendy, many thanks for the quotes in praise of Elijah! :k


Have a nice weekend, everyone! :)

oh whiteling,that woulde be fun!!!
and we woulde reconais echother!!!!

oh i so hope this will happen, a faculty meeting!!!!
that woulde make my day!!!! to see you all woulde be so much fun!!!!!!
:k :k :k

please, make this happen!!!



love you all/wood

*Mariole skips and jumps, delivering kisses to everyone* :k

Thanks, Grumpy! Thanks, Lady Wendy! Thanks, Whiteling! Thank you, estella rose and honeyelf and ceefour and ... *runs babbling into the distance*

ETA: Whoops, gives Wood a kiss too, since we simul-posted. :k Happy Saturday, all!

KISSES BACK MARIOLE!!! :k :k

YLLA,I THINK I HAVE FOUND ONE WHO IS GOOD AT BAD SHOULDERS!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/1lotr8.jpg



i hope this one will sheer you up!!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Whiteling: Thanks for posting the picture of a vole, so that we can see how much Elijah resembles this creature. And Mariole, thanks for your hilarious analysis. The sternocleidomastoid is certainly a key differentiator. In addition, however, I think that if one could develop a mathematical ratio of eye size to face size, one would find that it was significantly higher for young Mr. Wood than for the vole.

I was so glad to see Bunnie’s encouraging news about Hooligans being shown in Austin in March. If nothing else, that should give us some early feedback on the film (and maybe some EJW public appearances to generate pix).

Lady Wendy, thanks for posting the LotR reviews (though I would quibble with the “watery blue eyes” remark :( ).

Whiteling: Thanks for posting the picture of a vole, so that we can see how much Elijah resembles this creature. And Mariole, thanks for your hilarious analysis. The sternocleidomastoid is certainly a key differentiator. In addition, however, I think that if one could develop a mathematical ratio of eye size to face size, one would find that it was significantly higher for young Mr. Wood than for the vole.
I can only join with estella rose in being thankful that the Faculty never shirks its responsibility to unbiased research of all things elwoodian (elwoodology? elwoodologists?). You have to keep in mind that today's my first day back online at home, and my entire internet use this past week has been at the office--Grumpy, I sympathize with the eardrum problem ;) .

Pelagia, the eye ratio discrepancy struck me, too. As often happens in productive research environments, though, the picture of the vole brought to mind another animal that may be closer in appearance to young Mr. Wood (and perhaps have even more in common with the not-so-young Mr. Wood). I'm speaking, of course, of the lemur. As a primate, the lemur's eyes have a couple of advantages over those of the vole which, I believe, is a rodent. The lemur's eyes are bigger, and are on the front of its face instead of the sides of its head:

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/off topic/mouse_lemur.gif

The picture above is a "mouse lemur" which, except for the hair color and the fact that it's smaller than most of its kind, is probably not the best lemur species to use as a comparison to EJW.

OTOH, below we have a picture of a ringtail lemur (the lemur is on the left):

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/off topic/ringtale_lemur_Budcute.jpg http://www.imagemagician.com/images/tgshaw/shoulder/jawline6.jpg

Here we see not only the primate eyes but, I believe (although I will certainly defer to Mariole's expert opinion in this matter), a developing sternocleidomastoid, which permits the fetching turn of the head shown in the picture.

This particular ringtail lemur is named "Bud" and, FWIW, when I copied the picture from the webpage of the reserve where he lives, I saw that the title it had been given was "Budcute.jpg" :) . It's nice to know he has fans. :p From his "haircut," he seems to also be hoping to land the Ian Curtis role, but, well, since he's from Madagascar rather than Britain, he probably didn't make it onto the short list. ;)

I was so glad to see Bunnie’s encouraging news about Hooligans being shown in Austin in March. If nothing else, that should give us some early feedback on the film (and maybe some EJW public appearances to generate pix).
Quite likely we'll get something, as Austin (we are talking Texas, right?) = the home of Harry Knowles = the major domo of Ain't It Cool News and a *cough* big *cough* friend of Elijah's. Harry can get a bit odd at times, but without him we never would have had Frolijah, so I forgive him for any weirdness on his site (although occasionally there's something so gross that I can't stand to look at it :eek: ).

And talking about Harry segues, with a bit of effort, into thanks to Lady Wendy for the positive reviews. Since Harry's being with Elijah at precisely the right time to tell him about the LotR movies and to tell him that he had to play Frodo was the first in the chain of strange "coincidental" events that led to the actuality, I think he can be linked with how happy I was to see someone else say this:
"...Frodo is the role he was born to play."

Lady Wendy, thanks for posting the LotR reviews (though I would quibble with the “watery blue eyes” remark.
That struck me as odd, too, unless the writer meant blue eyes that look like water. (You know, "limpid pools" or something like that :rolleyes: .)

Hmmm..."watery blue eyes " struck me as a little bit of a strange phrase too...sounds like they are weak, and pale in colour, whereas Elijah's eyes are strikingly deep blue, and very expressive, as we know !!

However, his blue eyes actually have a lot in common with water...firstly they are ever changeable, reflecting the colour of whatever he is wearing...so much so that they can look green, or grey, if that is what he is happening to be dressed in at the time...The One Husband's eyes are exactly the same...his blue eyes do have this tendency to match whatever shade of blue shirt he has on, wether it is azure, aquamarine, navy, blue-grey, turquoise, or even charcoal grey...in this respect, Elijah's eyes are very changeable, in the same way that the ocean reflects the colour of the sky...

The watery description could also be referring to the fact that he does have tears in them a lot of the time...due to the fact that he emotes very well on film...he IS the master of giving us what is precisely what is in the mind of his character, even if it means filling up at the slightest sign of distress....could be that this reviewer remembers this about Frodo, above all else ?

So now, even though I don't really like the description " watery", I'd like to think that the above reasons for using it are right...

Ain't It Cool News does have its good points. Moriarty, one of the site's main reviewers, wrote what I consider to be one of the best movie reviews ever in his initial look at FotR (it does have a few relatively mild swearwords, so I won't be able to link to it here, but you can find it at the external reviews section of the movie's page at IMDB). What I liked about it was the way he saw the film in the context of "blockbuster" films, and how so many times the true movie fan is willing to settle for just a few moments of magic from a two-plus-hour movie. But, as FotR (and the rest of LotR) showed us, we really shouldn't have to settle for halfway good, or almost good enough.

I agree, Sharpe's Girl--I'd definitely put AICN in the "plus" column in general. Good reviews, news (that ends up being true) faster than almost anywhere else. It's only occasionally that there's something... like the animation of Harry getting ground up in a blender (?), complete with blood and gore... that's a little hard for me to take. :(

Their "boys will be boys" attitude doesn't really bother me because, well, that's what they are. Also because, unlike some "boys will be boys" practitioners, I've never gotten the impression Harry or anyone else there would wish harm on anyone. They may talk about what Jennifer Alba would look like in the frozen food section of a supermarket, but I don't think they pose her any danger. In fact, if it came to danger, IMO they'd be more likely to defend her. It doesn't seem strange to me that Harry and Elijah would be friends.

Hi!

I'm just being a butinsky, (but-in-ski?) but here is the report of a meeting with EW (and Sean Astin) at the prep. for the Mardi Gras Parade down in New Orleans.

TORC's Bree, who is a native of Louisiana (Baton Rouge) and who went to the parade last year when EW was the "King," sent this in. She goes to university there, abut went to New Orleans for this event. She had missed meeting EW in person at Mardi Graslast year, but this year, she seems to have remedied that.

I copy and paste this (with her permission), for your enjoyment, to add to the wonderful posts from Honeyelf, Alyon and BunnieBugs, about their own meetings with EW in California in January:

Posted 2/05/05 in TORC's Frodo/Elijah thread, by Bree:

Warning: Long post ensuing detailing my FANTABULOUS day. Read at your own risk!

Alright, so let me start off by saying that today has been the absolute most amazing day of my life.

I met Elijah Wood.

And Sean Astin.

But Mostly Elijah Wood.

These things NEVER happen to me. I’m what one may call the MOST unlucky person. In fact, my motto is “so close, yet so far away.” So today has been all the more wonderful!

So… Where shall I begin? Perhaps where I left off last time would be good.

My friend ended up making it on time, and we hit little to no traffic on the interstate to New Orleans (which is positively crazy during Mardi Gras, but I guess we got an early enough start, and I’m sure not complaining). I was driving and trying NOT to think about the fact that I was about to be face to face with Elijah. Elijah Wood. (I’m still trying to wrap my mind around this fact) We arrived at 10:30, and the meet and greet wasn’t scheduled until 11:30, but we figured it would be best to scope it out and see if a line was forming. Sure enough, there was already line, but thankfully it wasn’t too long at this point. We staked our claim and filled out raffle forms for a football signed by Elijah and Sean (the theme this year for Bacchus is the Superbowl, since the parade rolls on Superbowl Sunday, and the winner will be pulled by Sean himself on Sunday—keep in mind I’m hardly lucky, so I don’t have my fingers crossed.)

Elijah was to pass the Bacchus crown to Sean before the meet and greet—a brand new tradition for this year as Elijah is the first returning king—and this ceremony was to be seen only by those who PAY to be members of Bacchus. Apparently, all of us common folk were too low class for such a grand ceremony… so we bided our time by sitting on the carpet in the hall outside of the room trying to catch a glimpse every time the door opened even a little.

Finally, the door opened to the room assigned for the meet and greet, and we all took our place around a sectioned off area in which Sean and Elijah were to greet us. I made friends with another Elijah Wood fan and we stuck it out together for the rest of the time. A Mardi Gras band entertained us while we awaited Elijah and Sean, but the anticipation was growing and we were all getting a little impatient. I whipped out my leather bound Lord of the Rings book which I had brought to be signed, and immediately stole the attention of a couple jealous fans (Apparently they thought it was a really good idea that I brought my book)

The Bacchus man—who I will from now on refer to as Bob, because I don’t know his name and it’s more fun that way—came back into the assembly room and informed us that Sean would prefer it if we went into the room he currently occupied rather than joining us in our room, so we were all shuffled into the next room. By shuffled I mean that I narrowly avoided being run over by some women in heels who seemed to think that if they weren’t first they weren’t going to see anything. So the other Elijah fan, my friend, and I all followed Bob and the crowd into the next room and I took my place at the back of the group. Here I must brag a little about my skills in working through a crowd. I went from the very back of the lineup to the very front in very little time. It amazed me that I accomplished it, but I guess I just have skills

Ok, I keep digressing, forgive me. Let me get back to the juiciness.

So an obviously drunk Sean Astin (had a little too much bubbly) is introduced by Bob, and he talks a bit about some randomness which I didn’t notice because I was looking for Elijah. Sean worked the crowd up and was obviously having a GRAND time, but where was Elijah? My heart was beating much quicker than it should have been, and I was starting to fear that he had left before the meet and greet. And then… I saw him.

No corduroy jacket of power, but I wasn’t too upset as he had replaced it with a nice suit. My heart stopped. My eyes locked onto him like radar. I was completely and totally amazed. Elijah Wood. On stage. In the same room. Laughing at Sean. Having fun. Wow.

Here I must interject and say he must be VERY good with children. We’ve seen how he acted with the crying child, and today was no different. An adorable little girl in a white and pink flowered dress seemed to be quite enamored with Elijah as she followed him around on stage. And instead of being annoyed or ignoring her, Elijah picked her up!! My heart melted at this sight, but unfortunately I did not get a picture!!

Well, Elijah started working the crowd from one side and Sean from the other. I didn’t care a flip about Sean at this point (sorry, I love ya Sean, but you just aren’t Elijah!) and watched Elijah move through the crowd. The majority of the time he was hardly visible as he was constantly surrounded by a crowd. It seemed to me that most of the group wanted to see Elijah, and not Sean, but maybe that’s just because I’m biased, jealous, and wanted him all to myself. I sound rather like Gollum!

At this point I was having a very hard time fighting off the scary fan girl within. I began to tear up out of pure excitement but managed to fight it back. I kept emitting strange sounds. Somewhere between a squeal and a sigh. He was ten feet away. A doubloon hits me on the head. Five feet away. Another *&%# doubloon hits my head and Elijah’s escourt finds this funny. One foot away. I could TOUCH him. Then… then he was in front of me.

Eye contact. Immediate eye contact and I couldn’t look away. I wanted to look at his fingernails and see how they were holding up… I wanted to watch him sign my book. I wanted to take EVERYTHING in. But I couldn’t look away from those beautiful eyes. It was the most surreal moment of my life. It still feels as though it was just another of my daydreams. I don’t know that I’ll actually believe it happened until I see the pictures. And amazingly he didn’t smell like smoke. He smelled like something wonderful. I don’t know what it was, but I’ll just call it eau d’Elijah. So now let me insert the dialogue.

Bree: Hi.
Elijah: Hi.
B: Um, can you sign my book, please?
E: Sure!
B: (fumbles with book and can’t get it open to the right page)
E: (Laughs and takes the book) What’s your name?
B: Brittany
E: B-R-I-T
E&B Simultaneously: T-A-N-Y
Aside—HE KNEW HOW TO SPELL MY NAME!!!
E: (writes Brittany- much love Elijah Wood—hands the book back to me)
B: Thank you! Um, and can you take a picture with me?
E: Yeah, yeah! (puts arm around me *electricity through my entire left side* and takes picture)
B: Thank you!

And then he moved on. I know, I didn’t say anything amazingly intelligent like I always wanted to… and I doubt he separates me from any of the other fans, but he smiled at me in a way that made me feel special. And he did ask me my name. He didn’t just sign my book… he signed my book TO me. He didn’t treat me like just another fan; he treated me like an individual. And for that I will always be very thankful.

Well, now Sean is coming closer and I snapped a couple pictures. He signed my book, but he didn’t sign it to me, he just signed “Sean Astin” and drew a little smiley. I was not impressed. But I wasn’t expecting much from him! I was just excited to meet him. Not overly concerned with that.

And you think it ends here? No,no, I wouldn’t let Elijah go that easily. I had to look into those eyes ONE more time. Any excuse would do. So I went to the end of the line, and when he got to me I said: “Elijah, will you take a picture with my friends” (see, we’re on a first name basis, he calls me Brittany, I call him Elijah ) and then he did… but for some reason saying his name was very… familiar. Ever since I walked into the room I felt as though I knew him. I thought I could just go up to him and say “hey” and he would know me, which is ridiculous, but I know so much about him I just feel that he must know a little piece of me, too. Crazy. I know.

Now, I wanted to tell him happy birthday. I wanted to tell him how thankful I am for his portrayal of Frodo. I wanted to ask him if he was excited to be back in New Orleans for Mardi Gras. I even wanted to ask him if he was busy later, you know, maybe we could grab some coffee like I’ve always dreamt about.

But you know what? I didn’t, and I don’t care. I’m on cloud nine. My favorite book has been signed by my favorite actor. He put his ARM around me. He said my name. He looked at me with those beautiful, piercing eyes. I really couldn’t have asked for more from today.

Of course, now I just need to work on getting that cup of coffee with him…

I got a whole roll of film, but unfortunately they had to send my disposable camera in for processing, so I won’t get the pics back until Wednesday! But I’m ok, because I have my book to hold, love, and cherish. My precious.

p.s. Wendy, I would much appreciate it if you could provide hosting, I believe I will be in need.

And mech, if you can’t tell, the temperature was ABSOLUTELY UNBEARABLE.

~ Mechtild

That is a wonderful account, Mechild! *happy sigh*

And having seen a few photos, now, I think that the little girl that she mentions (in the white and pink dress) was probably Sean's daughter, Alexandra.

Oh, and a couple of photos of The One Lad signing autographs:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/capt.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/elijah3.jpg

In carefully studying the picture of Elijah snuggling with Liv (that *was* her, wasn't it?) that Wood posted, I have come up with the following analysis:

1. For those who say that EW is too pretty and not masculine enough, it helps when he's in close proximity to someone who really *is* completely feminine to show the difference.

2. The not-volish-elbow characteristic of his sternowazzis is clearly visible.

3. I now have fingerprints all over my screen from blocking out first one side of his face and then the other, marveling at the beautifully asymmetrical symmetry of his features that allows him to appear as a study in contrasts: the maturity of his expression next to the childish angle of his sneakers, the sophistication of his shirt and the endearing casualness of the flared pants, the strength of his arms and hands as they encircle Liv's softness, the openness of expression on the left side of his face compared with the mystery of the shadowed right side.

3. The uncanny resemblance of extraordinary beauty of two exquisite creatures side by side

4. The impression that Young Mr. Wood holds up quite nicely next to a movie star.

~grumpy (What? You expect me to be able to *count* after looking at that picture?!?)(So I had two 3's.)(So sue me) :p :p

thank you so much ,Mech for posting this is here!!!! :k :k :k

lucky girl!!!!!!

hope there will be pictures soon from mardi gras!!! :z:

Grumpy,hey i`m glade i`m not the only one who
has study that picture in close!!!!! :k
He looks so gourges on this one!!!!

And i agree with you on every singel statment you made!!!! :k :k :k



LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

edit: found some pictures from mard gras!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/mg0504.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/mg0505.jpg


there are more of this at A&F!!!!

ahgghhh!!! Woa!! Wonderful report Mechtild!
Bunnie!! Thanks for the pics of lij signing autographs!! (And for the Hooligan news).
Lady Wendy--lovely lovely reviews!
Flourish, I hope for all of our sakes that you find that website.
And Wood!! That photo!! OMG! :k
Grumpy:
3. The uncanny resemblance of extraordinary beauty of two exquisite creatures side by side

What she said.

Now, Mariole :D . I just walked back into the Faculty after a weeks absence. Now, put the vole down . Gently...put it down. :D ;) Walk away....that's right..., very good ;)

You are so funny! :k

~~~

~ Exclusive screencap from ....

The EE of the all-Lemur production of The Fellowship of the Ring:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/lemussailingtohavens.jpg

Frodo: "They are going to to the harbour beyond the White Towers. The Grey Havens...."

Sam: "They're leaving Middle-earth..."

Frodo: "Never to return..."



:cool:

mechtild!!!! :k :k

you killing me!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

almost fall ing of the chair!!!!! :D :D

love you all/wood

Frodo: "They are going to to the harbour beyond the White Towers. The Grey Havens...."
Sam: "They're leaving Middle-earth..."
Frodo: "Never to return..."



oh dear. oh dear oh dear oh dear.

:D

(I will actually post something one day that says something, once I recover from this spate of research induced hysteria! )

.Quite likely we'll get something, as Austin (we are talking Texas, right?) = the home of Harry Knowles = the major domo of Ain't It Cool News and a *cough* big *cough* friend of Elijah's.

Actually, Harry will be on one (or more?) of the panel discussions, according to the official website for the festival. And btw, South By Southwest (running from March 11 to March 19, this year) also has a concurrent music festival, which Elijah has attended in the past (in fact, where he was instead of at the Academy Awards in 2003).

4. The impression that Young Mr. Wood holds up quite nicely next to a movie star.

Er, uh, Grumpy, sorry but I have to take serious exception to this. Young Mr. Wood IS a movie star. He "bows to no one".


ETA: A book which *may* be of interest: "Frank Miller's Sin City : The Making of the Movie"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1933104007/

Product Description
Covers the production from page to screen and all in between.

Product Details
Hardcover: 272 pages
Publisher: MonkeyBrain Books (April 25, 2005)
ISBN: 1933104007

OTOH, below we have a picture of a ringtail lemur (the lemur is on the left):

:lol: :lol:

Exclusive screencap from ....

The EE of the all-Lemur production of The Fellowship of the Ring:

:lol: :lol:
Ladies, you are killing me!!

So now, even though I don't really like the description " watery", I'd like to think that the above reasons for using it are right...

Near relatives, no?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/MoneyShot.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Mini_lemur.jpg

AWWWW :k !
That's really the last primate/rodent/whatever from me, I promise!


Many thanks for the Mardi Gras pictures and Bree's report :) !

Wood, I received your e-mail, thanks!

Wow, Whiteling! Those two pictures are spooky, they have so much in common.

I think I'm going to have to get me a lemur, to compensate for the lack of a real EW to pet. ;)

~ Mechtild

Pictures and lemurs and Mardi Gras! Oh my!

Thanks to all!

C4

l

Well, Elijah himself says that a star is just a ball of gas. :D

I was looking at the picture through the eyes of someone who doesn't see The One Lad like we do. There's this annoying thing that entertainment media does, referring to certain people as "A-list" celebrities and the rest of the world as not. Considering the lack of attention given to Elijah as well as most of the rest of the cast, Elijah is not considered "A-list". Liv Tyler is considered A-list. It's funny to see them try to establish Whotheheckcares Fox as the "Star" of "Lost" and therefore an A-list celebrity, while everybody's waiting for Monaghan to appear. They're having to reconsider that boy, at least. Hah. :p

Elijah will always be an actor and an artist, regardless of how hard the entertainment shows try to ignore him. He's had a phenomenal reputation for a long time among his peers and that matters more than how much attention Joan "She's critiquing fashion? you gotta be kidding!" Rivers gives him.

I may be biased. I can't bring myself to watch those shows on the off-chance that there's a glimpse of someone interesting. If I see one more picture of Paris Hilton, whose celebrity should be limited to the fact the she was the drip who - er - dripping woman who Peter Jackson helped out of the fountain - well, it ain't gonna be pretty. ;) ;)

~grumpy, who is supposed to be working on finances, not goofing around online!

Ladies you are hilarious. :lol:

Raise your hand if you just pre-ordered the DVD for that all-lemur production. :D

I've had no luck finding the ROTK behind-the-scenes website.

I've strong-armed one or two people into helping me look around (heaven knows what I'll do to return the favor), but if anyone here is familar with LJ-land and can either look or (perhaps better yet) ask around in there, that would be WONDERFUL. I have a feeling the site I remember is more likely to be found there, or through some LJ-er, than through any "ordinary" channels, and I'm a total stranger in LJ-land. :confused:

In fact, considering the fuss that was made everywhere about the beautiful "going home to the Shire" costumes we saw so little of in the films, I'm surprised it's proving so hard to find some of these pictures. Those clothes were in them.

With actors inside. ;)

Flourish, the Always and Forever link I sent to LotR "Behind the Scenes" didn't have what you wanted? What a shame. That's been a good source for me.

Bree of TORC is still in ecstasy this morning over her meeting with "HIM" yesterday at Mardi Gras. I put links in TORC to the posts above which made reference to the event.

But look what Bree wrote about the first picture in BunnieBug's post:

note: in BunnieBug's post, in the photo... I'm in it!!! And I remember seeing her! I'm the girl right behind Elijah's head in the hot pink sweater just STARING at him. Wow, I didn't realize I was staring at him THAT much. But it was SO worth it. *sigh* I'm very jealous of my past self.
How about that for coincidence -- or -- dum da dum dum -- FATE? :D

I'm going to try and lift out BunnieBug's photo and post it below, for easy reference. Here's hoping....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/capt.jpg

Yeah! It worked!

Edited to correct information in original post:
Bree is not studying in NYC, (though she wants to live there someday) but in her home state, Louisiana. She is from Baton Rouge, not New Orleans itself. Just thought I'd mention that.

~ Mechtild

Wood ...Thanks for the pic...it's always been one of my favorites and I bet he could help my sore shoulder out quite nicely...or at least provide a lovely distraction. :D
Ladies...I bow to your witty remarks...and thanks for the laughs you've provided...makes me eternally grateful I'm a proud card holding member of The Faculty
Mech Thanks for posting Bree's encounter in New Orleans...love hearing about fan meetings with him....if only....***sigh***
Lemur production of LotR....gotta get that one!!! ;)



Man I Love this place! :k

Mechtild and Whiteling, I am suffering death by lemur! You're slaying me! :p :D

Raise your hand if you just pre-ordered the DVD for that all-lemur production.
*does so* :D

Here we see not only the primate eyes but, I believe (although I will certainly defer to Mariole's expert opinion in this matter), a developing sternocleidomastoid, which permits the fetching turn of the head shown in the picture.
*sighs with relief* Thank you, Tg! That is exactly the kind of information I want. *fixates on lemur's cute neck and hairstyle*

I want to thank the Faculty for pulling together on this stunning and important piece of research. THE LEMUR WAS THE BREAKTHROUGH. Someone had better write that reviewer, whoever he was, and set him straight.

3. The uncanny resemblance of extraordinary beauty of two exquisite creatures side by side
Grumpy, you did mean this comment to apply to Mechtild's FOTR EE post, right? :D

But, seriously, not only do we have an entire EE of The Fellowship of the Ring actually performed by lemurs (although I believe their actual names are Frodo and Stan, but still), we have the following telling points:

Lemur vs. vole, summary

1. The lemur displays a developing sternocleidomastoid. This is of primary importance, and we should skip all the other data right now. However, as a dedicated Faculty member, I will continue the analysis.
2. The "mouse lemur" has appropriate hair color and is smaller than most of its kind. However, the vole also had appropriate hair color, and is smaller than most other mammals. The specific example of "mouse lemur" is therefore considered inconclusive.
3. The smallest mammal of all is the Kitti's hog-nosed bat, which is also called the bumblebee bat because of its size. :eek: However, initial analysis indicates that the eyes are too small and the nose too big for it to be a serious contender for an Elijah lookalike.
http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/bumblebat.jpg
4. Back to lemurs, the lemur's eyes are located on the front of its head, instead of the side. Elijah only has ears on the side of his head. The lemurs gain another point.
5. All three of these Elijah-like animals -- lemur, vole, and bat -- have ears that portrude above the top of their heads. Elijah has only hair on top of his head (the ears, as we have established, being firmly at the sides). Therefore, the position of the ears is considered an insufficient differentiator as a similarity metric.
6. The lemur and the bat have pointed ears, which maps more closely to the Frolijah incarnation. The vole possesses rounded ears, which maps more closely to Elijah Wood. The vole appears to gain one point in this category.

You can see that this was by no means an easy call. Yet this exhaustive analysis proves once and for all that Elijah Wood has more in common with Order Primata than with Order Chiroptera or even Rodentia. Thank you, everyone, for your illuminating contributions.

Now, Mariole ... put the vole down . Gently...put it down. Walk away....that's right..., very good
But Alyon, it's following me, just like the girl in the pink and white dress followed Elijah...

Mariole's arguement that EW has more in common with the lemur than the vole or bat is convincing. Please compare the following for furthur evidence:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/id43.htm

http://www.duke.edu/web/primate/index.html

C4 (with thanks to tg)

Go Eagles!

Voles? Lemurs? Bats? You are - all of you - deceived :haha: For there is one other - one other who has eyes - gasps - larger than than those of The One Lad :eek: Granted, he may not have much going for him in the way of sternocleidomastoid - but eyes to face ratio, he's a winner :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/lij004.jpg

COMPARISON PIC:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/lij006.jpg


This creature has lived with us since Christmas and as yet remains nameless. Any suggestions?

I apologise for this extremely silly post :o

Thanks for all the smiles, ladies -- those are some very cute pics (and the lemurs/bats/whatchamacallit of shireling's, are very cute too)!

For those of you just dying to see what they have dressed our Lad as this year, there's a webcam at http://www.nola.com/paradecam/launch.ssf?zzDoNotCount on which you can see the Bacchus parade. Hail Bacchus! (And btw, apparently someone hit him in the eyebrow with a necklace -- he was sporting a band-aid today).

Go Eagles!

Ceefour, you're hilarious! Moving pictures!

Shireling, I'm scared of your whatsis. I'm sorry, but it's so.

Achila, I liked all the reports up to the bashed-in eyebrow one. Ouch! Duck, lad, duck! (No, I don't mean he looks like one...) :p

I forgot to mention, I saw ROTK with my youngest sister last night --she asked me to, honest! She needed a fair amount of briefing onscreen; I'm not sure if she ever got Faramir sorted (I even spelled his name for her). Afterwards, I asked her if she had a favorite character. Well, the "fighter chick" was cool. But her overall favorite was Frodo. It was just too sad, though, at the end, how he "lost his glint." She took his sailing very hard.

Yep, I'm proud and happy. The girl recognizes quality. *swells with pride; ducks from flying lemurs and necklaces...*

Happy Birthday, Alyon!
(Just an hour early!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/4352_1024.jpg
There's a beautiful hobbit for you to spend the day with!

honey!

A Wood in lemur's clothing (or is it a voleskin?...)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/coat-n-tie_bigger.jpg

wishes you A very happy Birthday, Alyon! :k Have a great day.


~~~~~~~~~
Mariole, your summary was brilliant. I feel proud to be accredited to this illustrious Faculty. :z:

Ceefour, what a great analogy. Loved it. ;)

Shireling, you could name your plushie creature Argus. :p

Achila, thanks for the Mardi Gras link :)

Happy Birthday, Alyon!

Just dropping off a little something that was found in New Orleans last night -- still shiny and just out of the box! Have a wonderful day!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/MG0580.jpg

A few more close-ups (for eye ratio comparison purposes) from last July, at the film festival in Europe that I already forget how to spell :o :

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/018f45e0.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/00d90f40.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/01af45e0.jpg

And a couple more from Elijah's partying at that same event to add to Alyon's virtual birthday party! Have a great day, Alyon!

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/019f45e0.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/01bf45e0.jpg

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from Mariole:
Yet this exhaustive analysis proves once and for all that Elijah Wood has more in common with Order Primata than with Order Chiroptera or even Rodentia.
I'm sure he'll be very happy to know that! :lol:

The only problem with the "All-lemur production of LotR" :D is that I can so easily see myself surfing for hours to find pictures, and actually trying to put it together! Help! :eek: Somebody stop me!!

I've had a soft spot for lemurs for a long time. Probably because they're so endangered, along with them being our more "primitive" cousins--kind of a link between us apes and the rest of the animal world. (And it doesn't hurt that they're so cute :) .)

Shireling--I have no idea for a name, but IMHO you've got the right idea in the pic where the creature is sitting on top of the computer monitor--let Gandalf watch over it! :eek:

----------

Thanks to all those who've been posting the Mardi Gras stories, links, etc., and those who've been searching for the "making of" pics from the trip to the Grey Havens, while those of us who aren't so good at finding things like that sit here and act silly. :k (I notice we've got some Mardi Gras related ads on the page right now.)

(Actually, I'm standing here acting silly. My new apartment comes with a perfect spot for the computer, but I don't have anything handy to sit on yet. So my computer time is still kind of limited--after moving all week, my lower back doesn't take kindly to long periods of standing.)

*Fanfare*

Happy Birthday Alyon!

Alyon, may I borrow the present HoneyElf posted for you above? *Melt melt melt* Pretty please? :z:

[Seriously, Honeyelf, that greenish Frodo picture you posted has destroyed me utterly!......*swoons openly in a non-swoon thread, and not even under the pretense of swooning for lemurs or voles of great charm....*)

Thank you soooooo much! :k

~ Mechtild

Happy Birthday, Alyon!

Here is Elijah to sing to you:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/F-gN2LRi5atWhmGiD2Qqnz4.jpg

Ooh, shiny! :)

Happy birthday, Alyon!

The party is underway. Tg, I think you can kick the drummer out of his chair if you want to sit for a while. Or not, as you prefer. ;)

http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/Lijdrums.jpg

Wait... that drummer looks awfully familiar. Say... isn't he clasping short pieces of wood -- perhaps getting in touch with his lemur heritage?

Happy Birthday Alyon! :)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ALYON

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/48-4517-sm.jpg

sorry coulden`t do both color and bigger words!!!!

Lovely pictures every one!!!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Happy birthday, Alyon!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/TRL-63.jpg


tg: Thanks for suggesting lemurs as a better comparator than voles. And thanks to the highly informative followups from Mechtild and whiteling -- :lol: I'm looking forward to the All-lemur FotR, whoever puts it together! Thank you, Mariole for your consideration (and rapid dismissal) of bats.

And thanks to everybody else for all the Mardi Gras stories, pix, and links.

zkgrumpy wrote:
For those who say that EW is too pretty and not masculine enough, it helps when he's in close proximity to someone who really *is* completely feminine to show the difference.
When I first started getting, erm, intrigued by Elijah (Frolijah, actually, in the beginning), I thought of him as very androgynous. But if you really look at that face, there is nothing feminine at all about that bone structure (e.g., the jawline).

While going through miscellaneous papers that I cleared out of my office when I left my job last month, I came across a newspaper article (originally in the Los Angeles Times) that I had saved, some time back. I thought Faculty members might find the following excerpts relevant (I do, anyway!).
ECCENTRICS MAY BE ODD, BUT HAPPIER

Most families have had to tolerate at least one bona fide eccentric: the great-aunt with the habit of speaking only in Shakespearean quotes, or the brother-in-law who remains sequestered in his garage and assembles perpetual motion machines. Some families cope by having little to do with such odd relations. But those who have ostracized an eccentric in the past might want to reconsider. If psychologist David Weeks is right, that zany aunt or daffy in-law is happier, healthier and longer-lived than those of us who conform to social standards. . . .

Eccentrics . . . are convinced they are different or visionary, they proffer profound ideas that don’t quite operate within the laws of logic, and they don’t hesitate to bring up their unusual preoccupations with anyone they meet, Weeks says. An all-consuming preoccupation with a single topic or topics is the most characteristic trait of eccentrics. . . .

Weeks’ research showed that eccentrics have robust senses of humor and that they possess a single-minded curiosity that keeps them involved in life. He said it occurred to him in the bath one day that he was dealing with much more than a minor aspect of human nature. His subjects were not oddities, he realized, but living examples of people who mange to live with zest and fulfillment.
So, to the long list of Elijah’s other well-documented virtues, we can now add the fact that he can make his more “eccentric” fans “happier, healthier and longer-lived.” What a guy!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ALYON!

Just popped by to deliver THIS (http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Alyon.gif)

Hope you're having a lovely day! :)

Thanks Mech, for posting Bree's Mardi Gras meeting with Elijah.

Beautiful pictures, everyone.

Shireling - Hi. What an cute little fellow that is on your computer monitor - and the furry cat-creature-thingy perched above him is quite sweet, too! ;)

An all-consuming preoccupation with a single topic or topics is the most characteristic trait of eccentrics. . . .
Oh dear, Pelagia - I think we may all be in need of help. I wonder if there's an 'Eccentric's Anonymous.' On second thoughts - forget it - who wants a cure for their Frodo/Frolijah/Elijah all-consuming preoccupation anyway? :)

Pelagia, thank you for the article!ECCENTRICS MAY BE ODD, BUT HAPPIER :D :cool:
I'm going to print it out, and tape it to the back of my framed picture, with the One Lad, Alyon and I! That way when my younger-but-everso-more-serious sister sees the pic, and looks at me aghast :eek: (and she will eventually do so,) I can show her that there is a perfectly sound reason for indulging my little eccentricities. (Of course, now that I've acheived "surround Frodo" in my sewing studio, I expect one small blue eyed lad will be hard to spot! ;) )(Frodo on every wall!:) What could be better, I ask?)(Saving the spot just under my framed "Four Your Consideration: Best Actor, Elijah Wood, RoTK ad for a FYC: Best Actor, Elijah Wood, Everything is Illuminated ad. :z: )

honey!

BEAUTIFUL GIF AS ALWAYES BLOSSOM!!!!!!!!
HAVE NO IDEAR HOW YOU DO THAT!!!!!!



WELL,I AGREE WITH YOU,WHO WANTES A CURE FOR THIS
PREOCCUPATION!!!!!! :D :D

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT HAPPEND TO MEE!!
:D :p :cool: ;) :) :rolleyes:

EDIT: SIMULPOSTED WITH YOU HONEY!!!!!!

OH,WOULDE LIKE A PLACE LIKE YOU,WITH JUST ELIJAH AND FRODO AS WALLPAPER!!!!!! :(
I DO HAVE A PLACE WERE NO ONE CAN ENTER,MY HEART!! :cool: :k


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Blossom (a lovely gif as usual, BTW) wrote:
Oh dear, Pelagia - I think we may all be in need of help. I wonder if there's an 'Eccentric's Anonymous.' On second thoughts - forget it - who wants a cure for their Frodo/Frolijah/Elijah all-consuming preoccupation anyway?Once again, I’ll quote the old joke about why there’s no such organization as Chocoholics Anonymous: nobody wants to quit! Same for Elijaholics Anonymous (clearly an important subset of Eccentrics Anonymous, as is LotR -holics Anonymous).

honey! – “surround Frodo” sounds like a great decorating idea! (So far, I just have two posters, two calendars, a magnet, and several action figures; but they’re scattered around different rooms. Maybe I should consolidate, to heighten the impact?)

HI AGAIN!! :lol:
CAN`T STAY AWAY FROM HERE VERY LONG!!! :lol:

JUST FOUND THIS PICTURES FROM MG
NOW I WONDER IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO
KNOWS WHAT BOOK THIS IS FROM?? :z: :z:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/MG0569.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/erendil/MG0570.jpg


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Wood, that's the special issue of Empire from last year, which featured a pull-out LOTR section.

THANKS ACHILA!!!

YOU THE BEST!!

WONDER WHY THIS KIND OF STUFF NEVER SHOW UP HERE!!!
THERE IS NEVER ANY NEWS OR PICTURES OR ARTICLE ABOUT
ELIJAH HERE IN SWEDEN!!!!!!! :confused: :mad: :confused: :mad:

THIS COUNTRY IS WEIRD,WHEN IT COMES TO WRITE ABOUT FAMOUSE PEOPLE!
BECKHAME AND BRITNEY SPEARES THOSE TWO ALWAYES IS IN THE
PAPERS!!
BUT WITH SECONDE THOUGHT I `M GLADE ELIJAH ISEN`T MENTIONED
IN THIS WAY IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!
I JUST THINK SOMETIMES THAT THEY DON`T PAY ANT ATTENTION ABOUT HIM!!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

this is to many post for one night!!! :rolleyes:
elijahaddicted?? me????NOWAY!!!! :p :D :lol: :cool:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ALYON!!

Hope you're having a beautiful day. And here's something to make it even more beautiful:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/52077768_10.jpg

Hi

Have Been Trying To Learn To Write Elijah In Elvish!!
Can`t Do It!!!!!!!
Is There Anyone Who Can Help Me Out???
Please Pm Me!!!!!


Love You All/wood

Thank you so much Everybody!! I'm just loving the pictures!! A bright, sunny day outside, and then in here I have Frodo and Elijah--just as bright and uplifting. It's the best! Truly!! Thank you!!

(((Faculty)))
:k :k :k

I'm saving that piece on eccentrics, too, Pelagia :) .

I especially like this part:
An all-consuming preoccupation with a single topic or topics is the most characteristic trait of eccentrics. . . .

Weeks’ research showed that eccentrics have robust senses of humor and that they possess a single-minded curiosity that keeps them involved in life.

...as it fits so well with this definition on the "For Elijah Wood Geeks" page :p :
Geeks (n.): 1. People who are passionately interested in a particular subject to which normal people pay little or no attention. 2. Generally the most interesting people. :cool:

Lovely gif, Blossom (it's such a different experience when I watch them on the office computer--they're, like, right there (as opposed to waiting and waiting and waiting)! Beautiful pic from Shireling, too--is that a candid shot? I mean, he looks like that when he's not even trying to?

Happy, Happy Birthday, girl!


Hi Faculty, You know, you all just ROCK!

Beautiful pic from Shireling, too--is that a candid shot? I mean, he looks like that when he's not even trying to?

Yep -- that was taken at Sundance, while he was playing the drums with Billy and Shox. Should be illegal to walk around looking like that. ;)

Yep -- that was taken at Sundance, while he was playing the drums with Billy and Shox. Should be illegal to walk around looking like that. ;)
That does it. *claps the Lad in irons and lead him away* :haha:

Hello! Thought that I would finally post here with an appropriate first message, (bows), this seems to be a very interesting,, vibrant little community for the young darling, Mr. Elijah Wood. I'm not much of a talker but I like to listen intently to fascinating conversations.

Hi Gia! Wisteria_way from LJ here.

I haven't gotten to post here for awhile either. But this is a great place!

You'll love it. :cool:

Happy Birthday, Alyon!

C-Let's pretend it's someone's birthday every day so we can have lots of pictures-4

Shelbyshire – great picture!

Hello, gia21, and welcome! You wrote:
this seems to be a very interesting,, vibrant little community for the young darling, Mr. Elijah Wood
You have no idea! I hope you saw the lemur/vole/bat discussion!

Welcome to the Faculty Lounge, gia21! I'm mostly a lurker, as well. And what a wonderful place to lurk!

Happy Belated Birthday, Alyon! :k

As for the rest of you--I have been :lol: uproariously over the lemur/vole/bat discussion! :D

Shireling
Thank-you so much for your ORC-encounter tale...and please do post your photos for us all to see...no idea why other people haven't, but I think we all need to see them...don't you, ladies ?!! ( If you would like a photo-hosting place, rather than posting them here, for us to link to, just PM me and I'll help you out...)

Thank you for the offer Lady Wendy, but as I've finally scanned the pics & placed them in my Photobucket account, I will now summon up all my courage & post the links here. I guess these are really more suited to Hugs Haven, but as I posted my report here, this just sort of follows on:)

This was the first one taken:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/ORC/lijandme4.jpg

He pulled me in closer for this one - who can blame me for looking stunned?:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/ORC/Elijahandme.jpg

This is the hand-on-the-knee shot :eek: I'm sure he's aware of the effect its having!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/ORC/lijandme3.jpg

And these are the two Frodo pics he signed for me. He also signed one as himself but I haven't scanned that yet:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/fairscan.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/intothewestscan2.jpg

In other news, Sean Astin has signed up to appear at Collectormania here in the UK at the end of April!! You don't have to be mind readers to know what I'm hoping!! Greedy? Moi? How dare you :mad: Oh well, perhaps just a bit :D JRD & Kieran Shah are also going to be there.

Shireling, I saw those wonderful pics on your LJ (remind me what your name is on there, could you??) -- you look a little shell-shocked for sure!

WELL SHIRELING YOU LOOK VERY HAPPY AND VERY COMFORT BESIDE HIM
ESPECILLY THE ONE WITH HIS HAND ON YOUR KNEE!!!! :D :p

IF THAT WOULDE HAVE BEEN ME I WOULDEN`T BEHAVE THAT CALM :D :D
OR IS IT BIG WAWES INSIDE YOU???? :p :D :cool:

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Shireling - you look lovely! You have very nice eyes. thanks for posting!

I'm going to a convention here in Sweden mid-March and will hopefully shake the hand of Mr Astin there and then.

Welcome, gia21! We're not too dangerous once we've been fed. :D

Shireling, your :eek: in the knee picture cracked me up! Hilarious. Thank you so much for posting those! (And what lovely autograph pic choices...) :)

This is the hand-on-the-knee shot I'm sure he's aware of the effect its having!!
How can someone look so innocent, and so naughty at once? Him, I mean! :D

honey!

Eandme!!! What Are You Saying?????

Here In Sweden??? How Coulde I Missed That?????
Were??? When???????
Is Elijah Coming Too???!!!!!!

Love You All /wood

What Honeyelf said! :D WTG, Shireling, and congrats to you! Great pictures there.

I think I found the behind-the-scenes shot I was looking for--it's a few seconds later in the film than I thought and darker than I remembered, but this is surely the one--and thanks to Mech I believe it was, for pointing me in the direction of BEI which I've finally canvassed with sufficient thoroughness.

Now to return to the rest of my life. :rolleyes:

http://www.bagendinn.com/group/images/costumed/rotkdvd/features/afj37.jpg

Golly, Shireling, those were GREAT! Woo hoo!!!!

I can't believe how calm and demure you appear to be in those. :D

Shireling: This is the hand-on-the-knee shot I'm sure he's aware of the effect its having!!

honeyelf: How can someone look so innocent, and so naughty at once? Him, I mean!
I think honeyelf is right: It does look as though there is a bit of self-knowledged going on behind those Big Blues. ;)

It would be wonderful if you could make that series into a little slide show, to see the progression better, even if it's so few shots. Oh, my heart goes pit-a-pat with the vicarious thrill of it.

Flourish, that shot was definitely worth looking everywhere for. EW really has a look I would have LOVED to have seen more in the films -- he looks very book-canon-ish there, to me. I am not sure why. There's a "keenness" to him, in the way he is looking. It reminds me of what Kumari portrayed so well in her recent drawing, "Frodo's Journey Begins" -- though the keenness was fiercer and more on guard in her drawing.

Thanks so much for posting it! :k

-- Mechtild

How can someone look so innocent, and so naughty at once? Him, I mean!
Oh, yes, what a great expression :D ! (I also notice the, ahem, arm linking going on there, Shireling. Now, I wonder whose idea that was? :p )

Welcome to gia, and (((peaceweaver))) who we don't see nearly enough of!

from Flouish:
Now to return to the rest of my life.
:confused: :confused: (wishful thinking, anyway :rolleyes: )


And, Mechtild, I agree with all you say about that picture. Elijah seems to be in character there, doesn't he, even though it's evidently between takes? Paying attention to the director, though, as always.

----Anyone notice that we're almost half-way to starting another new thread?

welcome gia 21!!!!

hope you will like it here as much as i do!!!! :k :k

this ladies in here are the best!! like my second family
thou i never have meet them yet :z:

TG,I SAW THAT TOO!! GIRLS WE HAVE BEEN BUSY IN HERE THAT`S
FOR SURE!! :D



LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Welcome gai 21!! I hope you enjoy it here!!

Shireling--those photos are fabulous!!!! And I was gone for a bit so I haven't thanked you for adding your ORC report. I wish we had had more time together--but it was great to have seen you and your husband. :)

Blossom, that gif was so cool. I was afraid it wouldn't work for me as sometimes my computer is so slow. But it did!!! Thank you!
And I thank all of you again for the lovely lovely pics--really made my day! :k

I'm immensely pleased because I think I'm cultivating another Frolijah lover within my RL circle. She is 25 and there is no doubt that she is showing interest. And truly, it's all in the interest of cinema studies and all :p :o ...giving us great reason to expound now and again about a certain one lad. And if sometimes talk strays into just how nice a person he is...and how he isn't that hard on the eyes...if that talk creeps in, well, we aren't the type of people who believe in compartmentalising our appreciations, are we?? No. No....never that. :haha:

Good to see you back Goldenberry and Peaceweaver :k

shireling: Thank you for posting your pictures with EJW. In the second one (being hugged more closely) and third one (hand on knee), your eyes are about as big as his are. And no wonder!!

Flourish: Gorgeous picture. And with The Profile, no less. :eek:

Well, that's really weird! I just tried to post something, and it got eaten. So I tried to post it again, and was informed that I'd just posted that same thing five minutes ago, and was being redirected to the thread. But still not post! :confused:

Well, I'm just going to rudely quote myself, because....well, because there is no news lately, and so speculation, and inane musing will have to do. If, when I arise the morning, there are two posts by me, I promise to delete one. So anyway, this is what I said:
I'm trying to decide if I should admit this or not. I just saw "A Clockwork Orange" for the first and last time. My husband observed that Malcolm McDowell reminded him of Elijah somehow, in the facial structure. I allowed that he did me too, just a bit, perhaps the cheekbones and the expressiveness of the eyes. Then my husband wondered if there were such a role today, would Elijah take it? I somehow suspect he would.

what the heck is that movie about anyway? the inefficacy of the criminal justice system? the death penalty? so mysongynistic! not a film I'd recommend to anyone, stanley kubrick or no! oscar-nomination or no! if it were remade tomorrow, and elijah were in it, i don't think i'd go! :eek:

honey!

Ugh - "A Clockwork Orange" :eek: ... brrr, one of the most disturbing films I've ever seen (erm, I had to watch it, as I was once a Stanley Kubrick admirer. But yes, Honey, I agree that he was a misanthropist. I do love, however, his wonderful "Barry Lyndon", with its poetic melancholy and gorgeous costumes. Now, that would be a great role for our Lad!). I think it is the eyes which make one think of Elijah. But Malcolm McDowell is the brute version, indeed. :rolleyes:

Shireling - thank you so much for posting the lovely pics with you and Elijah :) ! Tsk, tsk, this little rascal ;) ...

Gia, welcome! Feel at home here. :)

Flourish - hurrah for finding that marvellous behind-the-scenes shot. Ian Holm looks like Ian Holm, whereas Elijah Wood looks like Frodo, if you get my meaning. :k

Flourish - hurrah for finding that marvellous behind-the-scenes shot. Ian Holm looks like Ian Holm, whereas Elijah Wood looks like Frodo, if you get my meaning.

Oh I do exactly, Whiteling, thank you for putting it into words. I think that's why the image haunted me, actually. ;)

Honey, I had a post eaten yesterday. :confused:

I was curious to find out which 4 Academy Awards "Avalon" was nominated for -- the official AMPAS site has a cool database that's fun to play around in.

http://www.oscars.org/awardsdatabase/index.html

And btw, those noms for Avalon were:

1990 (63rd)
CINEMATOGRAPHY
Avalon -- Allen Daviau

COSTUME DESIGN
Avalon -- Gloria Gresham

MUSIC (Original Score)
Avalon -- Randy Newman

WRITING (Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen)
Avalon -- Barry Levinson


So this now becomes a somewhat interesting statistic to me (science geek -- don't mind me). Elijah's very first "major" film role was in an Academy Award-nominated movie, and now his last two (and I'm counting LOTR as one movie) roles have also been in nominated films. Sounds like a good trend to continue!

Oh I do exactly, Whiteling, thank you for putting it into words. I think that's why the image haunted me, actually. ;)
One of those things I'm just wondering about and will never know--it does seem so odd to see Frodo between takes, even when the break is momentary, I wonder if that scene was so emotionally difficult/involving that Elijah decided it was better not to jump in and out of character (which would mean that we have Frodo listening to the director's instructions).

Honey, I had a post eaten yesterday. :confused:
The board was evidently having its "Fat Tuesday" in preparation for Ash Wednesday ;) . Something it took me awhile to notice in the AW movie, but which I got a chuckle out of when I did--with all the drinking that goes on throughout the movie (all set on Ash Wednesday, of course), none of the characters--good Catholics all (at least culturally :rolleyes: )--ever eats a bite. :p

Regarding Elijah in Clockwork Orange--I don't have much doubt that he'd take the role. Kevin is a piece of evidence, I think, and Clockwork Orange would be a much bigger acting challenge. And reading American Psycho while his feet were being glued on? I think he'd go for it.

But IMHO we do have some movies to thank Stanley Kubrick for: 2001, Dr. Strangelove, Spartacus...

ETA--after reading Achila's post: Interesting data on Avalon--thanks. The one that surprises me by not being nominated is The Ice Storm (at least it doesn't mention any nominations on the case, and an Oscar nomination is usually displayed prominently).

One of those things I'm just wondering about and will never know--it does seem so odd to see Frodo between takes, even when the break is momentary, I wonder if that scene was so emotionally difficult/involving that Elijah decided it was better not to jump in and out of character (which would mean that we have Frodo listening to the director's instructions).

It seems that way to me too, Tg. Flourish's picture presents a very different - and fascinating - view of Elijah as an actor. It isn't Elijah we see there, or Frolijah - it's Frodo. :cool:

Flourish thought you all might like to take a look at this gif:

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Fro-Bilbo2.gif

There are several brief glimpses of Frodo between takes at the Grey Havens on the ROTK EE DVD extras, and it's noticable in every one how 'in character' Elijah is. It's as though he's in Frodo's 'emotional place,' and stayed there whether the camera was rolling or not. Such a contrast from the now famous 'Hobbits hiding in the tree roots' clip from FOTR, when Elijah is instantly himself again when PJ shouts 'Cut.'

*claps the Lad in irons and lead him away*

Mariole, for a moment there I thought you said, 'claps the Lad in irons and leads him a-STRAY!' ;)

Lovely, lovely pictures, Shireling! :k

I'm off to make some screencaps/gifs of those Grey Havens clips....

It seems that way to me too, Tg. Flourish's picture presents a very different - and fascinating - view of Elijah as an actor. It isn't Elijah we see there, or Frolijah - it's Frodo. :cool:

I think you're exactly right, Blossom. Considering what we know of this scene now, that they had to film it three times (and we don't know which of the three this is), my guess is that it was better to try to maintain "Frodo", rather than break character. Those are some difficult emotions to have to manifest, particularly over the long haul like this. The only clue you have that Elijah's even listening to Pete is the one little eye flick. Otherwise, he's in Frodoland.

ETA, after seeing TG's addition -- yeah, I was surprised by that too. Of all the other films Elijah did, I was sure that (The Ice Storm) was nominated for something -- possibly Screenplay, but it wasn't.

Hi All!!!

I Have Been Watching The Picture And Blossoms Gif
And It Looks To Me That Elijah Never Leves His Caracter!!!

And Like You Sade ,blossom.in Fotr There Is Elijah
At The Bottom Of That Tree The Second P.j Sas Cut!

I Don`t Know How He Does That But To Me It Seams Like He Can Jump In And Out Of Caracter Without Any Truoble!!!
Becuse When You Watch Frodo It Is Frodo Not Just A Actor!!!

Do You All Now What I Am Trying To Say Here???
Becuse As Usally To Me It Is A Rumbling!!!


Love You All/wood

Thanks for posting the gif, Blossom! ;)

We know they filmed the scenes of Frodo saying farewell to the other hobbits three times, but Sir Ian Holm might not have been there for that. He had very limited time, as I recall, and filmed all his scenes at once, near the beginning of the shoot. If his Gray Havens takes were OK and he had the right weskit on :rolleyes: , he might have gone on home while the hobbit boys were still crying, and crying, and crying, on the shore on a completely different day (days).

Poor guys. I really felt for them, hearing about that. But goodness it was a silly thing to happen, wasn't it?! :rolleyes:

I'm quite sure if any of US had been there, things would have turned out rather differently. ;) HOW differently, I leave to your imagination.

TGShaw said: One of those things I'm just wondering about and will never know--it does seem so odd to see Frodo between takes, even when the break is momentary, I wonder if that scene was so emotionally difficult/involving that Elijah decided it was better not to jump in and out of character (which would mean that we have Frodo listening to the director's instructions).
At ORC, during Sean and Elijah's panel, a young aspiring actress asked the two of them how they "reset" to do emotional scenes over and over as required. I don't remember Sean's answer :rolleyes: but I do remember the spirit of what Elijah said. He said he doesn't "reset" and start over again for each new take. He said it was better to find an "emotionally true place," and stay in it until the job was done. Alyon took notes; maybe she can help us out here.

Elijah's not a method actor, and didn't wear the Ring around his neck off-set (unlike Viggo, who carried his sword into restaurants apparently!) But he certainly works hard at what he does. If that's his approach to such a scene as the Grey Havens one, then he spent all day in a very melancholy place, and somehow managed not to shed a tear! Wow! :eek: A true artist! :k

honey!

ETA: :cool: Barry Lyndon, and Dr. Strangelove are in my netflix cue! :cool:

Do You All Now What I Am Trying To Say Here???
Becuse As Usally To Me It Is A Rumbling!!!
wood, that's one topic where I think anything we can say ends up as "rambling" ;) :k , because even when Elijah explains what he does, he doesn't really (and possibly can't) explain how he does it.

It probably wouldn't be so striking if we were looking at an actor like Viggo, or Dustin Hoffman IIRC, who does tend to stay in character no matter what. But we've seen enough "Elido" shots to know Elijah doesn't always operate that way. Possibly the hiding-beneath-the-tree-roots scene didn't need the same kind of effort to find and stay in an "emotionally true place" as the Grey Havens did. From Honey's post, the question at ORC was specifically about "emotional" scenes; every scene might not qualify as that, depending on where the character is emotionally. In the HBtTR scene, Frodo's scared--but he's also fairly clueless. The Frodo we see at the Grey Havens is a much more complex person, in a situation that's especially complex emotionally. And Elijah doesn't let himself--or us--ignore any of that complexity. A much more difficult emotional place to jump in and out of, I'd think!!

----But it's just so strange to watch, especially in the gif. That little flick of the eyes is definitely done by Frodo, not Elijah.

One further little thought about the Grey Havens scene, that builds on what Flourish said (and yes, I'm sure you're right -- they most likely didn't need to film the part with Sir Ian Holm three times). But this was filmed way out of sequence to take advantage of both Sir Ians' limited time there, and Elijah even said that the feelings he had to generate in saying goodbye to his friends were nothing like what he truly felt when he really did, at the end of the shoot. So even more reason to hold onto that emotion and stay there.

I am sorry to go against the popular opinion that Elijah is staying in character and is listening to Peter as Frodo, but my take on the Grey Havens scene gif is that Elijah looks plain shattered, and considering what the other hobbits have said about the long hours he worked, this may actually be why he seems to be not jumping out of character so readily. Since Peter seems to be directing his speech to Ian Holm, my interpretation of that flick of the eyes is that it is saying 'please stop talking and let's get on with this'.

I'll crawl back under my rock now. (Actually I'll go back to disc 2 of Peter Jackson's ROTK commentary - that might be more comfortable)

I am sorry to go against the popular opinion that Elijah is staying in character and is listening to Peter as Frodo, but my take on the Grey Havens scene gif is that Elijah looks plain shattered, and considering what the other hobbits have said about the long hours he worked, this may actually be why he seems to be not jumping out of character so readily. Since Peter seems to be directing his speech to Ian Holm, my interpretation of that flick of the eyes is that it is saying 'please stop talking and let's get on with this'.
Actually, SG, most of what you've said isn't necessarily a disagreement. If Elijah were shattered and exhausted (mentally and/or physically), he'd probably have even more reason to decide not to jump out of character; I'd think that would be a conscious decision he would make, not something that would happen randomly. And "please stop talking and let's get on with this," could certainly be what he's thinking. But is he thinking it "in character" or "out of character"?

Now i am confused!! :(

Maybe it is like SG said!! Maybe he is just so tired and wants
to get on with it.Or so emotionel.
And maybe he is so in the caracter that he dosen`t react as an actor
shoulde do when the director say something.

I don`t know ,with this picture it is hard to say.
In some pictures and behind-the scen at the dvd it is more easy to say.


Love you all/wood

I dunno, but when I saw the still picture I was convinced I was looking at Frodo, not Elijah. Blossom's gif just further convinced me.

Wasn't someone looking for a time-line of the LoTR shoot? I found one; can't vouch for it's accuracy of course, but it's here: Elijah Illusions: LoTR Timeline (http://www.hathawaymix.org/shelly/websites/elijah/ftimeline.htm) I've been all over the web-site since I stumbled on it a day or two ago, and I think it's clean. They have screen-shots of North there too! :D

honey!

The only clue you have that Elijah's even listening to Pete is the one little eye flick. Otherwise, he's in Frodoland.

Great GH discussion, Faculty - and I couldn't agree more, Elijah is completely lost in the character between takes. Fascinating.

Honeyelf - I have a video clip of Elijah answering that person's question - this is what he said: "You already put yourself into a place when you're doing a scene like that & you don't really allow yourself to get out of it until its all done. So once you've done a take you're still kind of going. In a weird sort of way the further into it you get probably the more it appeals to you and the better it may be or appear- I think, anyway - I don't really have a process for that, just sort of getting myself to a place that I feel is honest." How typical of him to take the positive approach:)

Thank you for all the kind comments about my ORC pics - I'm glad I took the plunge now:)

(I also notice the, ahem, arm linking going on there, Shireling. Now, I wonder whose idea that was?

Well TG - when he placed his hand on my knee it created this little space and my arm seemed to automatically find its way in there, & my hand sort of rested on his of its own accord :o

Shireling, I saw those wonderful pics on your LJ (remind me what your name is on there, could you??)

Achila, in LJ land I am NotAlone:)

can't believe how calm and demure you appear to be in those.

Mechtild ~ neither can I :D

Achila, in LJ land I am NotAlone:)

Hee hee -- you're on my friends list (I'm aquila0212). Thanks -- that was driving me crazy!

Shireling said: I have a video clip of Elijah answering that person's question
Where did you find a video clip? :z:

honey!

You might try www.sean-astin.net, honey -- I think there were some there.

More nominations for Eternal Sunshine -- The Saturn Awards:

BEST SCIENCE FICTION FILM
BEST ACTOR
BEST ACTRESS
BEST DIRECTOR
BEST WRITER

(and one for Liev Schrieber too -- BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR, The Manchurian Candidate)

The March (!) issue of Premiere magazine is out. It includes an article called “When Hobbits Ruled Hollywood” – a look back at last year’s Academy Awards. There’s actually nothing IN the article about the hobbits, but there IS a nice two-page spread showing the four of them walking along the red carpet together. They all look pretty good, although Elijah looks as if he’s doing a “Yes!” – head down, eyes squinched, fists clenched. (I don’t have a scanner, so can’t post it.)

The same issue has an article on who and what are likely to win Oscars THIS year, and why. Talking about Morgan Freeman, it says:
He, too, makes it look easy. Like Jeff Bridges (number of Oscar wins: zero) and Tom Hanks (number of Oscar wins: too many), Freeman always manages to seem effortlessly solid and comfortable, no matter how hard the role. But voters like to see the gears moving when an actor gives a winning performance. [emphasis mine]
Sounds familiar, doesn’t it??

Achila – Thanks for posting the Oscar-nomination info about Avalon. You know that it’s one of my favorite movies (even apart from Elijah); and I just love the score, so I’m glad to see that Randy Newman got some recognition for it.

tgshaw: I hadn't noticed that Ash Wednesday was all-drinking-no-eating. That gives it something in common with All I Want! ;)

And thanks to honeyelf and shireling for pointing us to Elijah’s ORC remark about staying in character. It pretty well sums up what we know about his approach to acting, doesn’t it? I especially like:
I don't really have a process for that, just sort of getting myself to a place that I feel is honest.
And I agree with whiteling about A Clockwork Orange – “Ugh . . . brrr” indeed!

one pic from Ash Wednesday, on Ash Wednesday...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/ashwednesday15.jpg

Nighty night, all

Welcome gia21!

Shireling, thanks for sharing your pictures.

Honeyelf, thanks for the link to Elijah Illusions.

Referring to the LOTR filming schedule, I am positive that a poster at TORN had assembled a fairly detailed shooting schedule. It even included a few copies of the call list. Unfortunately, though I've searched for the post, I cannot find it. Does one have to be a member to do searches at TORN?

Pelagia, I agree with your emphasis about Oscars liking "to see the gears moving." I watched "Mystic River" a few weeks back and was more intrigued by and wanted to see more of the Kevin Bacon character than the Sean Penn.

wood, you always make sense!

Blossom, thanks for the gif. (By the way, is a gif a gift? And why is it a gif? C4 shows her computer savvy once again.)

Here's to Achila, the gatherer of information--The Faculty's Elijahpedia.

Hi to Skatergirl, Honeyelf, Whiteling, Flourish, Mariole, Goldenberry, Peaceweaver, Mechtild, ylla, Kumari, Maeglian, Rikka, and tg!

C4

Did you remember to watch "Lost?" :eek:

A BIG hello right back at you Ceefour

I too would really like to see that shooting schedule over on TORN
If anyone can tell me how to get to it I would love to take a peek at it.
Thanks Honey for the link over to that site,there were a few video clips over there that I hadn't seen before :k
A belated Happy Birthday to Alyon

I went to see The Aviator on Monday and let out a bit of a squee when I saw the trailer for Sin City...possibly scared the h**l out of the friend I was sitting next to but then again, I indulge her squees when Johnny Depp is on screen ..so I guess we're even :D
I have to agree with Achila(don't know if she mentioned this here ..or in one of our many conversations) I think Elijah is going to be this film's "ace in the hole". Can't wait for April :)

Welcome to our little world Gia21


BTW....I'm totally addicted to LOST :cool:

Achila – lovely Ash Wednesday picture. Everybody here except me may hate that movie, but Elijah IS very handsome in it, I think. There's just not enough of him.

ceefour wrote:
I agree with your emphasis about Oscars liking "to see the gears moving." I watched "Mystic River" a few weeks back and was more intrigued by and wanted to see more of the Kevin Bacon character than the Sean Penn.
Yes, I was very impressed by Kevin Bacon in that movie, too. I had never thought much about him as an actor before that; and it was too bad that his performance in Mystic River was overshadowed by those of Penn and Tim Robbins.

ylla -- Could you see anything of EJW in the Sin City trailer, or was it the same as the one that was on the web some weeks ago? (And BTW, Lost is the one TV show that I absolutely refuse to miss.)

I'm hooked on "Lost" as well--why aren't you ladies over in the "Lost" thread on this board?? ;) You know you want to.....

Ylla and Ceefour, TORn's search engine is--well, I don't know what to say. Either it's very user-unfriendly or else I am very stupid. I never have any luck with it--if I type in almost anything at all, it takes me to a long list of irrelevant message-board posts. :rolleyes: And no, you don't have to be a member to experience this frustration.

If you go to "News Archives," however (I think on the left-hand side of the screen), and select "headlines only" (if you think you can recognize your article by the headline), you can quickly zero in on an approximate time period and search the headlines for your article that way.

Tedious, but imo more reliable.

Unfortunately I don't remember seeing anything about a shooting schedule over there, but--obviously, you can't go by me. :lol:

Shireling - Thank you for posting your pictures with Elijah. Just beautiful (both of you)! You certainly have a lasting memory there. If at any time you think it was all a dream, just take out a picture and re-live it all. :D

Re Lost - The second episode is on right now (it only started here last week) - I've been typing during the ads! Wow!


Kumari

Flourish wrote:

I'm hooked on "Lost" as well--why aren't you ladies over in the "Lost" thread on this board?? You know you want to.....
Me, too! (That is, I'm hooked on "Lost" as well.) I am so glad our daughter dragged me off the computer to watch it when they did the reruns over the holidays. You know what gives me the biggest thrill, though?

(Oh, how'd you guess...)

That's right, it's the thrill of seeing an actor from "OUR" films do so very well. In every episode, it seems, Dom gets better and better things to do. I noticed there are never any copies of TV Guide left in the check-out lines that have "Charlie" on the cover, either. (Note: in the U.S., they are doing an issue with six different cover options, all featuring one of the characters from the series; I am only guessing Dom is on one of the six; does anyone know for sure?)

This is a sooooooo much more rewarding role for him than that of Merry. I just run out of the room and pump my fist in the air everytime he consummately completes a scene. I fell like yelling, "Hey! I know him! I know him!"

*voiceover of Dom, speaking in his lowest tones, 'Hey, aren't you the one who bad-mouthed my fake-German journalist in the RotK Easter Egg?' Mechtild clasps hands behind back and drags toe across carpet' *gulp* 'Weeeeellll...'*

But never mind that. My point is, that's the sort of thing I want for Elijah Wood. Not that it is to be a series or on TV, of course. But a role that is meaty, nuanced; one which lets him show off everything he's got (well...) -- and, all the while, enabling him to endear himself massively to the hearts of viewers. Pleeeeease can't he have such a role???? :z:

So. What's EW's agent's name and address....? :p

P.S. Blossom, I LOVED that GIF of the shot Flourish had been looking for. I linked your post for the EW/Frodo fans over in the TORC swoon thread. Thanks so much for making it.

P.P.S. Hi, Kumari, what you said re: Shireling's piccies. :k


~ Mechtild

But never mind that. My point is, that's the sort of thing I want for Elijah Wood. Not that it is to be a series or on TV, of course. But a role that is meaty, nuanced; one which lets him show off everything he's got (well...) -- and, all the while, enabling him to endear himself massively to the hearts of viewers. Pleeeeease can't he have such a role????

You're not alone, Mech. I think his next few roles (although Charlie Hunnam seems to be getting the early buzz for "Hooligans") are going to do just that. Each, from Matt to Kevin to Jonathan, has some element of depth -- they're all a chance for Elijah to show his range (no, I didn't say "quality" -- did you think I was gonna? ;) ).

I too love seeing our Dommie every week, and I get the biggest kick out of him getting so much attention and so much great stuff to work with. But to tell the truth, were it not for him being on the show, I wouldn't watch it. I'm not THAT enamored of it, otherwise. If they could figure out how to make it one hour of Charlie, every week, I'd much prefer that!

Pelagia, I agree with your emphasis about Oscars liking "to see the gears moving." I watched "Mystic River" a few weeks back and was more intrigued by and wanted to see more of the Kevin Bacon character than the Sean Penn.
Morgan Freeman was interviewed a couple of weeks ago about Million Dollar Baby, and the interviewer read a quote from a review that said MF and Clint Eastwood try to "out underact" each other in that movie. :D Is there such a thing as over-underacting?

Blossom, thanks for the gif. (By the way, is a gif a gift? And why is it a gif? C4 shows her computer savvy once again.)
That confused me, too, when these lovely creations first started being posted, 'cause ".gif" is like ".jpg" or ".jpeg"--simply the designation for an image format. Most avatars are .gif's. But the one thing .gifs can be made to do that .jpegs can't is move. (Moggy's and Barrow-wight's avatars, for example). Those are "animated .gifs"--and I assume they're created the same way Blossom makes her "gifs", by linking separate stills together. But I think... and if this is wrong, someone correct me before I put it in the glossary ;) ... that the (dot) has been discarded when that particular kind of .gif/gif is being referred to. IIRC, the similarity between "gif" and "gift" has, indeed, contributed to that alteration in the language. (Tolkien would love that one :p .)

Ash Wednesday related: Just heard an ad saying that Ed Burns is going to be on the next Will and Grace (tonight?). It doesn't say if he's going to be walking, or chewing gum, or walking and chewing gum at the same time... :p And, Pelagia, there are some things I like about that movie--my main problem with it is the illogical storyline (don't get me started on that :rolleyes: ). But when Elijah gets a chance to act, he does well, especially considering it's the role he took to try to work out of his post-LotR short-term depression. The opening flashback, the scene with the uncle, and especially the scene in the van with Rosario Dawson and "little Sean" are very good. The last one, IMHO, is worth the price of admission all by itself. From the sound of things in the director's commentary, I doubt if Elijah had much acting direction, and IMHO he plays that last scene beyond perfectly.

Achila, thanks for the Saturn Award news. I'm always glad when the specfic community acts with its accustomed common sense (being the one award that realized Elijah was "best actor" last year). --- Ooo ooo --- That reminds me---guess what I saw in Walgreen's last night?? A hobby-unicorn!! I didn't buy it--yet--but I want one! Wouldn't that be a perfect gift for Elijah? (And anyone who understands the stream of consciousness in that paragraph deserves an award :p .)

You're not alone, Mech. I think his next few roles (although Charlie Hunnam seems to be getting the early buzz for "Hooligans") are going to do just that. Each, from Matt to Kevin to Jonathan, has some element of depth -- they're all a chance for Elijah to show his range (no, I didn't say "quality" -- did you think I was gonna? ;) ).

I'm not sure that Kevin is really going to show much 'depth' -- but that remains to be seen (is it April 1st, yet?). At the least, it will hopefull shock viewers into realizing that he can do more than they gave him credit for. I'm a bit worried about POSSIBLE SPOILER -- highlight to read: how his performance is going to be interpreted. In the book, Kevin pretty much wears the same expression all the time. Unless Rodriguez allowed him some nuance, people may see it as The One Expression again. And even if he was allowed some nuance, we already know how well some people can see past his looks to read it. :rolleyes: Again, we'll just have to wait and see. I'm so looking forward to it, though, and I'm hoping in spite of my reservations that he manages to knock everyone's socks off. :z:

I'm less concerned about EII, but still a bit worried; I think that is going to be a great role for him. My concern there is that he may be a bit overshadowed by Eugene Hutz, who is playing Alex. Again, Elijah's will be the more subtle role, and Eugene's the more flamboyant and obvious one. I DO wish he'd find a role that allowed him to shine without the film being stolen out from under him, if you know what I mean. It's yet another role where he is required to convey with his eyes what is going on inside... lovely for those who can appreciate it, but another mark against him for those who can't, I'm afraid.

I too love seeing our Dommie every week, and I get the biggest kick out of him getting so much attention and so much great stuff to work with. But to tell the truth, were it not for him being on the show, I wouldn't watch it. I'm not THAT enamored of it, otherwise. If they could figure out how to make it one hour of Charlie, every week, I'd much prefer that!I started out watching Lost for Dom, but stuck around because I like it. One episode not long ago, he didn't even appear until half-way through, and I actually experienced a moment of surprise, and 'Oh, yeah. HE'S in it!' :D

I'm less concerned about EII, but still a bit worried; I think that is going to be a great role for him. My concern there is that he may be a bit overshadowed by Eugene Hutz, who is playing Alex.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a bit of comic physical acting from Elijah.

Again, Elijah's will be the more subtle role, and Eugene's the more flamboyant and obvious one. I DO wish he'd find a role that allowed him to shine without the film being stolen out from under him, if you know what I mean. It's yet another role where he is required to convey with his eyes what is going on inside... lovely for those who can appreciate it, but another mark against him for those who can't, I'm afraid.

As long as he keeps doing movies, I'm happy. But I suspect that it will be a good role and different enough from Frodo that it'll get noticed. Oy, those glasses, though.

I spent some time yesterday looking at those pictures. Did you see the one in Hooligans - there's kind of a sequence - when Elijah's character looks pretty beaten up and he's walking. There's one where he looks directly at the camera and looks pretty upset. Now was his *character* upset, or was he saying to the photographer, "Get outta my face! You're breaking my concentration!" In any case, that gaze really gave me a jolt. It's one of those that is so personal it's hard to look at, and it's so - so - BLUE! ;)

[QUOTE]I started out watching Lost for Dom, but stuck around because I like it. One episode not long ago, he didn't even appear until half-way through, and I actually experienced a moment of surprise, and 'Oh, yeah. HE'S in it!' :D[/QUOTE

I'm so far behind on Lost that I'll never catch up. I even stayed at work last night until 8:45; barely made it home for West Wing. It's so popular, though, that I'm sure it'll show up in syndication or on DVD pretty quickly. I'm having trouble concentrating, though; have a hard time watching anything right now.

When I watched the first episode, I was really worried, mainly because Dom had such a hard time getting work after the first movie came out. He apparently had bad representation; I think he's since gone with the same people that Elijah has and has done better. In any case, it could have gone either way. He could have been dreadful. After the first few minutes, though, I exhaled and stopped worrying.

I still think it's hysterically funny that all we hear about are wazzisname Fox and whoever-she-is. It seems like the entertainment shows go out of their way to ignore anyone who played a major character in LotR.

Which reminds me, Sean has a movie on Sci-Fi on Saturday, I think.

~grumpy

Pelagia It was the same clip that we've all seen from Sin City
It doesn't take a whole lot to set the squee meter off in me! :o

And Sean does indeed have a made for Sci-Fi Channel movie on Saturday night called SlipStream...just my type of movie too..since I was a little girl watching the most dreadful, Time Tunnel(possibly because of the yummy James Darren) I've been fascinated with time travel. I hope this movie doesn't disappoint me the way most of them do.

As far as the Lost board goes..I do take a peek over there Flourish..perhaps I'll post over there eventually..I just find that I don't have much to contribute to the discussions going on. Not that I have anything noteworthy to say over here ;) But this is my home here and these days I don't do a lot of traveling :rolleyes:
and speaking of that show and Matthew Fox...watch out Mr. Fox...Dom is quite quickly becoming the Star of the show...IMO anyway :p

Hallo everyone!!! :k :k

Thank you c4 for thinking that i make sence!! :k
and everybody else ofcourse!!

To my big surprise when i was watching the tv,i saw
that they wore showing LOST!!!!!!! :eek:
And at first i was thinking,we ll it can`t be the same serie.
Over here sometimes we alwayes have to wait long before
we can see what you see on tv!!
But too my big surprise it was the same!!!
And it was very good!!Dom is doing great!!!

Ylla,nice seeing you!!!!! :k :k :k

Grumpy,i agree with you ,as long elijah keeps doing movies
i`m happy,don`t care much if it is mainroll or not!!
just as long i can watch him on the bigscreen!! :D :p

Don`t get me wrong here!!!
I love the thought of him in a big roll!! Geting his first big award!!!!!
And at last gets the attention he deserves!!!!

Thanks for news and links Achila!! :k

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

There's a 'project' at Livejournal that needs the help of our Swedish contingent. So, Eandme and wood--your assignment:

A Swedish band named "Tidy Up" :D has a song called (I am not making this up): "I Hate Being in Love with Elijah Wood". Undone27 or Bunnie has a link to it in her LJ. Can't remember exactly who posted the link, but if you go to my LJ (I am cateressea there) and to my friends list, it's there.

The song is in Swedish, so you understand the mission. I :z: one of you can help!

As the discussion here has turned once again to wondering whether and when EJW will get the credit he deserves, let me offer up the following For Your Consideration ;) :

I'm not really sure I even want the whole world to appreciate Elijah the way we do. I feel like part of an enlightened secret society right now. If everyone was all gaga over him, it wouldn't seem as special. This is not to say that I don't wish him great success! But I think he would be uncomfortable if his life became the paparazzi fodder that, say, Tom Cruise's seems to be. Also, the "biggest stars" often appear, IMO, to be among the most mediocre actors :confused: :confused: :confused: . Or at least the most over-rated. As noted earlier in the discussion, Hollywood likes to see the acting wheels grinding before they will honor a performance. :rolleyes: Even the sublime Johnny Depp received very little public recognition until the role of Captain Jack Sparrow came along.

Then again, maybe I'm an elitist snob. ;) :p

Goldenberry you kidding us ,right????

can you pm me link please!!???? :z: :k

I know what you mean! I realy don`t want him to be
uncomfortable with the sucses!!!
And i also don`t want all to "gaga" about him!!!
I m just want him to get a little more attention that he gets
right now!!Do you understand what i mean?? :k :k


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

If...
- getting to know wonderful people all over the world
- sharing delight and sorrow
- being moved to tears by posts
- spewing beverages all over the monitor because of uncontrollable laughing fits
- giggling over silly hairdos and outfits
- staring for hours at endless series of screencaps
- comparing voles, lemurs, bats and muscles in dead earnest
- watching gorgeous pictures and gifs over and over again
- etc etc.....

means that one is an elitist snob... well, than I am very proud to be one! ;)

Thank you, (((Faculty))) :k

WELL WHITELING I COULDEN`T HAVE SAID IT

BETTER MY SELF!!!!!!! :k :k

I AM VERY VERY VERY PROUD TO BE AN ELITIST SNOB!!!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL IN HERE VERY MUCH!!!!!!! :k :k :k :k :k :k

WE REALY DO SHARE ALMOST ALL IN LIFE ,DON`T WE!!!!???
OR IS IT JUST ME WHO FEELS LIKE I CAN TELL YOU ALL
ALMOST EVERYTHING????


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Wood, PM me and I can give you a link to the song clip, if you still need it. That goes for anyone else who wants it, too. It's kind of cute, even if you can't understand the words. ;)

Thanks for the link bunnie!!!!

i realy woulde like to read the wordes becuse it was very very hard hearing what they were singing!!!!!

but they realy were singing " I HATE BEING IN LOVE WITH ELIJAH WOOD!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


THAT IS SO WRONG IT SHOULDE BE
" I LOVE BEEING IN LOVE WITH ELIJAH WOOD"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Blossom, thanks for the gif. (By the way, is a gif a gift? And why is it a gif? C4 shows her computer savvy once again.)

".gif" is like ".jpg" or ".jpeg"--simply the designation for an image format. Most avatars are .gif's. But the one thing .gifs can be made to do that .jpegs can't is move. Those are "animated .gifs"--and I assume they're created the same way Blossom makes her "gifs", by linking separate stills together. But I think... and if this is wrong, someone correct me before I put it in the glossary .. that the (dot) has been discarded when that particular kind of .gif/gif is being referred to. IIRC, the similarity between "gif" and "gift" has, indeed, contributed to that alteration in the language. (Tolkien would love that one )

Ceefour, I think Tg has pretty much covered it! An animated .gif - or to use the full technical term - CompuServe Graphics Interchange - is merely a file format for a sequence of still images strung together. It’s like a film reel, with individual frames running consecutively - when you save the file as a .gif image, it’s like running a clip of film. I make them using a programme called Animation Shop 3, which is part of Jasc software’s Paint Shop Pro 7. (I’m sure you can go to Jasc’s website and download a free trial version of Animation Shop to try out for 30 days or so.) It’s a great tool for making these moving clips, and worth buying if you use it a lot, like I do. It may sound complicated, but really it’s very easy once you know how. But you have to make hundreds - nay, thousands! - of screen caps to get your source material from the DVD’s! Of course, this involves looking at Frodo/Frolijah/Elijah for hours on end - but who’s complaining? :) I just use the term gif(t) when I’m posting one in here for someone’s birthday!

Mech - I'm glad you liked the Grey Havens gif. :)

I'm less concerned about EII, but still a bit worried; I think that is going to be a great role for him. My concern there is that he may be a bit overshadowed by Eugene Hutz, who is playing Alex. Again, Elijah's will be the more subtle role, and Eugene's the more flamboyant and obvious one.

That thought had crossed my mind too, Bunnie. Elijah does seem to get overlooked in favour of more 'showy' performances. Alex is a wonderful character, but I'm hoping Elijah will soar as Jonathan. He certainly has the depth and capability as an actor to achieve the balance between the comedic aspects of the role, as Grumpy commented upon - and the very moving/traumatic moments of Jonathan's journey.

Goldie - I just listened to the song. I'm not sure, but I think it may be sung in English. The first few words sounded to me like, 'It makes me feel so silly...' and then something about '... your eyes.' Well, you can't have a song about being in love with Elijah without mentioning the eyes, can you? :) Then again, I could be hearing things!

Whiteling - I loved your list of criteria for being an elitist snob. It makes one proud indeed! ;)

Flourish - Although I saw a small article in one of our TV mags, and have been keeping a look out, there's still no sign of 'Lost' on our TV screens here in the UK yet! :(

You might try www.sean-astin.net, honey -- I think there were some there.

Thanks Achila ~ I'd been trying to remember where I'd found my clips after Honey's request and I think that is where I got most of them. I do have some others but I'm still trying to rediscover the source - will let you know if I have any success:)

I'm not really sure I even want the whole world to appreciate Elijah the way we do. I feel like part of an enlightened secret society right now. If everyone was all gaga over him, it wouldn't seem as special. This is not to say that I don't wish him great success! But I think he would be uncomfortable if his life became the paparazzi fodder that, say, Tom Cruise's seems to be. Also, the "biggest stars" often appear, IMO, to be among the most mediocre actors

Goldenberry ~ my thoughts exactly!! And I also belong to the 'As long as Lij continues to do movies I'm happy' club'. And if he's happy just doing small, independent movies thats fine with me. He once said that he knew he'd never top LOTR and he wouldn't want to. I'm really glad he said that because Frodo is so very special and I wouldn't want him to become more known for another character than he is for Frodo. As he also said "Frodo will always be my little shadow" And I think Frodo has given him the level of fame that he's comfortable with ~ thank goodness he didn't become another Orlando, he would have hated that. So yes, I really look forward to all his future roles, but at the end of the day he will always be Frolijah to me :)

Goldie - I just listened to the song. I'm not sure, but I think it may be sung in English. The first few words sounded to me like, 'It makes me feel so silly...' and then something about '... your eyes.' Well, you can't have a song about being in love with Elijah without mentioning the eyes, can you? :) Then again, I could be hearing things!


Thank you, Blossom! My employer has the link blocked :mad: ;) , so I haven't heard the song yet, and relied upon the comments of those fortunate few who had heard the song but couldn't make out the words. So, what we really need is someone who's good at translating garbled song lyrics. :p

edited to add: Exactly, whiteling! :k Well, except for the 'dead earnest' vole/lemur/bat comparison. ;)

Also eta: Wood, I agree completely--a little more attention and acclaim for the One Lad would be a very, very good thing. :k

::honey! dances around the room, droning along::

they say I must forget him,
I know I should...
I hate being in love with Elijah Wood

Please love me Elijah!
Please love me Elijah!

they say I must forget him,
I wish I could...
I hate being in love with Elijah Wood

::notices she's being watched::

Interesting comments on whether Elijah's subtle performances will ever be noticed by the general public and/or critics. I was up early this morning and happened to catch a rerun of the Bravo channel's Inside the Actors Studio.

(For non-USians, it's an hour-long interview with one actor/director/occasionally singer done in front of an audience from the renowned Actors Studio performance arts school in New York. The interviews are comprehensive over the guest's career and are usually very interesting, even though lately they've become less picky about who's worthy of the invitation--this season, it seems to have become more of another Shill Your New Movie stop on the talkshow circuit, since they actually decided that Jennifer Lopez has had a significant-enough career to be interesting. Bleah!)

Anyway, this episode was an interview with the renowned actor Ben Kingsley, one of my alltime favorites. Throughout the show, he kept on saying things that actually reminded me of Elijah's acting style and character choices, even though they've had a completely different background (Kingsley was an acclaimed Shakesperian actor before getting his first starring role onscreen as Gandhi). When asked about his fabulous way of using silence in his performances, he said, "Silence and stillness are my two major currencies as an actor." Also, the interviewer pointed out that Kingsley has had a proportionately large number of Jewish roles onscreen, which had surprised the interviewer until he found out that Kingsley's mother was actually part-Russian Jew and part British. Combined with his Indian heritage from his father, his multiethnic background has given him a remarkably wide range of character choices (amusing, since before he changed his very Indian-sounding birthname to Ben Kingsley, the first theater he auditioned for told him that they didn't know how to cast him since he was "an exotic").

Getting back to how this relates to Elijah, I think that Kingsley shows that subtle performances can work well onstage, and that EW should definitely get over his stage fright and get involved in live theater. I think that it would definitely give him some cachet with the critics and only improve his skills and range as a performer. Also, getting a large number of roles in one ethnic group or another isn't necessarily a drawback, especially if the actor is not part of the group in real life, unlike, say, Robert DeNiro always getting cast as the New York Italian guy, or Harvey Fierstein getting the role of the campy gay New Yorker (which, btw, he's managed to move past by getting rave reviews as Tevye in the latest Broadway revival of Fiddler on the Roof).

I think that Elijah is smart enough to know how to avoid the pitfalls of typecasting. If he can just get through his 20s in the kind of smaller movies he seems to favor, and if he can get the occasional attention-getting roles either on stage or screen, he can move past the awkward young-man roles and into the mature character performances that actors such as Kingsley revel in.

lovely Ash Wednesday picture. Everybody here except me may hate that movie, but Elijah IS very handsome in it, I think. There's just not enough of him.

I liked the pic too, Achila.

Pelagia, I've got AW in my netflix cue, due for arrival any day. I've seen it once, and deemed it so bad that I've never bought a copy of it, even when I could have got it cheap. But Elijah is in it, so I figure it's worth a second look. (Does this mean I'll need to rent B&W again at some point? I hope not!) I'd be interested on hearing your positive spin on it.

honey!

Honey--B&W doesn't have any good Elijah material in it (IMHO, but I don't think there's too much disagreement there...). AW does! In fact, there's some that's good enough that it has to be seen more than once to catch it all.




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The opening flashback is mostly interesting for the way it's shot, but there's also a fairly good look at Sean overhearing the plot against his brother and reacting to it mentally--both hearing it and knowing that he can't show that he heard it. Elijah's not as good as he could be, but he's better than most actors could have been. [A couple of big plot irrationalities in this scene; starts us off well on the movie as a whole in that aspect ;) .]

The scene in the uncle's apartment is kind of nice, as the "kid" Sean still is underneath gets to show itself for a minute. I remember it as being a bit over the top, but I need to watch it again.

But that final scene EJW has with Rosario Dawson is magnificent--and I've watched it a number of times. Sean is bursting at the seams to see Grace. He jumps into the van and wants to just sweep her up into an embrace. But Grace hasn't had time to even process the knowledge that he's alive and isn't ready for that. Both actors play it just right (IMHO). And you can see Sean taking the cue from Grace and backing off--although you can still see that he doesn't want to back off. Great EJW "compound emotion" moment.

Not everyone agrees, but IMVHO Sean's meeting his son is done just right, too. I think it would be natural for him to have an instant where the thought wouldn't even enter his mind (no one's mentioned this little detail to him, after all :confused: ). But he moves quickly from cluelessness ("Who's this little guy?") through shocked realization (and that's what I think the truncated "Mi...?" is--I don't at all take it as a question aimed at Grace about another man) to what I'd almost call awe. And the hand kiss and the embrace--getting as close as he can to both of them without overwhelming them, although he's overwhelmed. What can I say...?

If I have any problem at all with that scene, it's wondering whether the character would be capable of acting so sensitively and with such nuanced emotions; but maybe he's had the chance to grow up over the last few years. And whether the character's capable of it or not, it's just a joy to watch Elijah in action--especially with the probable lack of acting direction, and especially with this movie being the "quick shoot" he signed up for to pull himself out of his post-LotR "slump." IMVHO, Elijah's acting in that scene just shouts, "I'm b-a-a-a-c-k!"

----Elijah's other scenes? Not terribly memorable, although I might see more if I watched it again, too. Rosario Dawson's acting, though, is worth watching through the entire movie. Maybe because she's the one character that's an "outsider" to the culture Ed Burns is trying to encapsule, she's not a stereotype. (And maybe she's just a better actor than most of the others :rolleyes: .)






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The current issue of Entertainment Weekly features "Sin City" on its cover and in a four- or five-part article inside, but no pictures of EW or his character.

He gets this mention, and as far as I can tell this is all:

"Having the man [Frank Miller] who created this world on set was invaluable--especially since we couldn't techically see it," says Elijah Wood, who plays (brace yourself) a mute cannibal serial killer.

The article describes the book and the film in more detail than I've seen thus far, so for those who are already interested in what EW (the magazine, not the actor) calls "a $40 million marriage of crime saga and special effects" based on the book's "spartan storytelling and smashmouth violence," you might want to pick it up.

On the lighter side (than Sin City), guess who I found in my Spanish college textbook? Frodo and Gandalf, complete with Palantir, are in Puntos de Partida. The book's most recent copyright date is 2005. "Frodo Lives" And I think he is here for the long haul now! Harry's taller than Frodo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/EspanolFrodo.jpg

MORNING TO YOU ALL!!!! :k :k :k

IT SEAMS IMPOSSIBLE TO ME TO FIND THIS LIVEJOURNAL!!


I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR A LONG TIME TO FIND THIS LIVE JOURNAL
BUT I JUST CAN`T FIGURING OUT HOW IT WORKES!!!! :( :( :(

IS THERE SOMONE WHO CAN HELP ME OUT?? :z: :z:

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD