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Achila
05-12-2006, 07:32 AM
Hi everyone and welcome to our thirteenth new home. To get the ball rolling, here's the quote from our Dean, tgshaw:

Originally Posted by tgshaw:

--And my basic comment is that different actors have different strengths/talents/gifts. There are some things a good method actor could do better than Elijah could. I don't know if he's the best actor possible for the Iggy Popp role. That kind of depends on what sides of Iggy the film is going to show; I thought the comments from his wife about how different he was off-stage from on-stage were interesting and would fit Elijah's acting style in some ways. Not knowing if he's the best person available for the job doesn't mean that I don't think he can pull it off.

OTOH, Elijah's ability to connect at an emotional - even subconscious - level with the character he's playing is something I haven't seen anyone else match (saw a flash or two of it in Billy Boyd in RotK). His best acting involves stuff that would be impossible for anyone to do from an intellectual POV. Micro-expressions, autonomic nervous system responses, undefinable but perfect emotional expression - he "gets" the character's emotional state even when he can't say afterward exactly what he did. I agree with the Huck Finn director who told Elijah he shouldn't try to approach a role in the same way Courtney B. Vance did. It is possible for an actor like Elijah to lose touch with the character by overintellectualizing him.

That might very well mean he's not the best actor for roles that require a more intellectual approach to the character. No, I can't see him becoming a Ranger to the extent Viggo did; that wouldn't have been a great role for him. But I'm also pretty confident in saying that Viggo couldn't have given us The Turn, or the moment between "Do they?" and "Do they, Gandalf?" when you see Frodo's world fall apart on his face, or the complex mix of emotions that Frodo shows on many occasions. I was glad/relieved/hopeful when I heard Elijah'd been cast as Frodo because I knew he had talents that would be needed to play Frodo.

And, yes, especially from the pics on the first day of LotR filming, he popped in and out of character awfully fast. But that was a day largely taken up with making a variety of "hobbit piles," and it was the first day of shooting. I think it's a positive statement to say that you can immediately tell the difference between Elijah in costume and Elijah in character. There's at least one behind-the-scenes shot at the Grey Havens where Elijah's off to the side, obviously not on camera, but also very obviously Frodo. So there are evidently times when he knows it's best to stay within the character. We also know that after the Wheel of Fire scene, he had to go off by himself for awhile because he was so emotionally shaken -- but for him, PJ's "Go deeper" didn't take him deeper into himself but deeper into Frodo, which I think is one of the big differences between his acting and that of actors with a more thought-out acting style.

Stu's probably one of Elijah's most non-subtle and openly-emotional characters, and did allow him to let loose (but there's still a big difference between Stu and Elijah). Huck and Casey are both wonderfully nuanced characters, but because of the kinds of movies they're in that might not be recognized as much as it could be. He'll very possibly never be as universally appreciated as some actors are, because his acting isn't always easy; sometimes it makes you work at it, the way a well-written book does. And there are some types of film "literature" his style is better suited for than some others, but IMHO that's true of all actors, just in different ways.

And to start things off with a bang:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/the-yank-behind-096.jpg

Mechtild
05-12-2006, 07:57 AM
Thanks for opening the new thread, Achila, you champ, you.

Oooh. And you posted one of my favourite shots, and such a big one! *inapproporiate ogling*

And the quote you chose of tg's to set the tone was great, too. I remember that discussion. It focussed on 'Elijah the actor' (as opposed to Elijah 'the cutest little pumpkin-wumpkin that breathes'). It was a good one.

I looked around (on the occasion of this new thread) for something "Iggy-ish". I scrounged this manip from the last thread.


Elijah in young Iggy's hair:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Elijah%20Wood/Elijah-IggyPop.jpg

~ Mechtild

whiteling
05-12-2006, 08:18 AM
Achila :k thanks for opening the 13th Faculty Lounge!


Oh, before I forget - Dr. Frodibal Lecter wanted me to let you know that he is tied up with business and therefore cannot, much to his regret, attend the opening of the new installment of the thread. He sends his best wishes though! :D

However, his close friend Eliggy Pop (I see, Mechtild posted already a beautiful pic of him :lol: ) has sent us this as housewarming present:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/Elijah_pop_cover.jpg

Better than nothing... ;)

Achila
05-12-2006, 08:59 AM
Oh man, I love these manips! And when we were discussing Iggy the other day and I went to search for pics of him with bleached blond hair (and never did find one, although I know I've definitely seen one), I found these:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/iggy_pop_205.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/pop_iggy41.jpg

which immediately brought to mind this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/00008sdk.jpg

and this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/newbagend.jpg

and this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/arrrm.jpg

I couldn't find "Downward Facing Frodo" but surely that one too. Which leads to the conclusion that there isn't another actor on the planet who can play this role!

BunnieBugs
05-12-2006, 09:07 AM
I have blond iggy! Here he is with the drummer of The Who, the late Keith Moon:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/misc/Ig19.jpg

Now how about one of Elijah looking determined and rather, um... no, we'd better not go there. ;) :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah%202/arena-025.jpg

Eandme
05-12-2006, 10:14 AM
Hey everyone!
I meant to post in the old thread, but didn't get around to. So can I just say that what I think is really cool about the Spyro thing, the voicework Elijah will do for an Xbox game, is that Gary Oldman is lending his voice to one of the characters, and IIRC Elijah has said that Mr Oldman is one of the people he'd like to work with some time. Or perhaps it's just in my imagination, because I think they're both great and I would love to see them work together. :confused: Anyway, I now wish I was a gamer.

Mechtild
05-12-2006, 02:56 PM
Hi, Eandme!

WHAT a *pleasant* array of photos!

Achila, the double-jointed comparison shots were just great, even if they involved different limbs.

Bunnie, great pics. Nice pants, too.

Whiteling, that was so funny! Your humour and skills are inexhaustible, lucky for us. :lol:

~ Mechtild

honeyelf
05-12-2006, 04:01 PM
http://static.flickr.com/45/145239093_c8d2195ae9_b.jpg

Don't mind my little friend, or me either for that matter. We thought this was the Elijah Wood discussion thread but it seems there's some kind of gathering of contortionists going on.

Whiteling, excellent manip! Ain't it weird how it's Elijah's face, but without that strong neck it just isn't quite as appealing somehow? And is he wearing eyeshadow? My little friend's face is going to freeze that way at this rate! :eek: :lol:

Just 6 more hours, pacific time, until Keith Barry Extraordinary! :) Then we'll really see a shocked expression fer sure! Set the VCRs and DVRs!

honey!

Alyon
05-12-2006, 09:39 PM
Let's see. I'm going to come to the party without a pretty picture. Knowing you all, you will politely let me in and someone will make up for my lack. I'm on someone else's computer and expect to be bumped at any moment...so I can't fuss with those pretty pictures...
But I can sure look. You all have such nice one's in your collection.

Saw HoneyElf a few days ago (waves at Honey) and as she already told you--we watched EII together. I really like that movie. But that's not news.

And I steeled myself to watch Punk'd, which she brought for me. I'm happy to say that there had been so much outcry here, that it actually wasn't quite as painful as I had expected--though I'm pretty sure it would have been had I not been prepared. It was so difficult to watch his distress--but I found him honest and sincere and likable. And at the end--to reassure Mechtild--I did not get the feeling of him being a whipped puppy. He didn't seem ashamed or abashed or like he was having to fall in line with the boys. He just seemed relieved and strong and honest--just like himself.

But--saying all that--It still was painful. My poor daughter watched it with me later and she whimpered through it feeling bad for him. But she thought he himself was fine. So did my husband.

I suppose we've done the punk'd discussion to death. But I know Honey mentioned we had seen it together. So thought I'd weigh in.

Now on to more pictures....someone...please???

Mechtild
05-13-2006, 12:41 AM
I steeled myself to watch Punk'd, which she brought for me. I'm happy to say that there had been so much outcry here, that it actually wasn't quite as painful as I had expected--though I'm pretty sure it would have been had I not been prepared.
I think that was part of it, Alyon. I really was not prepared to see such a show, no matter who was appearing on it.

It was so difficult to watch his distress--but I found him honest and sincere and likable. And at the end--to reassure Mechtild--I did not get the feeling of him being a whipped puppy. He didn't seem ashamed or abashed or like he was having to fall in line with the boys. He just seemed relieved and strong and honest--just like himself.
That's good to hear, Alyon. You confirm what others had said, I believe. I couldn't bear to watch it to the end, so I never did see how he behaved at that point. I merely made wild conjectures -- while having a fit. :rolleyes: :p

~ Mechtild

ceefour
05-13-2006, 08:05 AM
Stole this from TORC--

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20060512/114747594000.html

C4

Mariole
05-13-2006, 10:09 AM
Thanks for starting the new thread, Achila! You posted some of my favorite pics ever-- I love that shoot!

I like both the Iggy Pop manips. I think Elijah looks better with long hair, but I think that's true about most men. He's okay bald (as long as he has facial hair), I think it's an okay look (some of my friend have it), but I really prefer strokable, fluffy, silky hair. Stubble can't compete, even soft stubble. Sorry, men!

Alyon, thanks for your Punk'd update. It was nice to hear your husband's reaction as well. *shudders with horror at the memory*

Shelbyshire
05-13-2006, 01:07 PM
Hi, Faculty!

Did anyone tape the CBS Keith Barry special last night? A friend taped it for me but only the first half of it. I saw up to and including the hanging. I've been keeping an eye on LJ but nothing has been posted. No one is even talking about it. I would appreciate any information. Thanks!

honeyelf
05-13-2006, 01:53 PM
I TiVo'd Keith Barry, Extraordinary. I can put it on the greybook site. I'll let you know when it's there. It may be later this afternoon.

honey!

Mechtild
05-13-2006, 02:31 PM
Did anyone tape the CBS Keith Barry special last night? A friend taped it for me but only the first half of it. I saw up to and including the hanging. I've been keeping an eye on LJ but nothing has been posted. No one is even talking about it. I would appreciate any information. Thanks!
I'd like to hear about that, too. What was the Keith Barry show like? I am not familiar with the program at all. Thanks, Honey, if you see anything. I guess I should PM you about applying for admission to the "Grey Book" site.

Mariole, ditto on what you said about The Hair. *sniffle* for the shiny, lush locks.

~ Mechtild

saile
05-13-2006, 10:39 PM
Wanted to drop off one of my favorite photos........

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/beautiful.jpg


Eager to see the Keith Berry show...er I mean the Elijah segment of the show! Well actually always eager to catch a glimpse of TOL.....in real life or on film. I'll take what I can get..........
saile

honeyelf
05-13-2006, 11:48 PM
Saile, that picture is one o my favorites too.

OK, here's the Keith Barry trick here on YouTube again: clicky (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LqXhqa-utnk)

Do you all want me to put it on the greybook site too, for saving??

honey!

BunnieBugs
05-14-2006, 12:31 AM
Do you all want me to put it on the greybook site too, for saving??Oh, pretty please? :z: I can save things off of YouTube again, but the quality is never as good, and I'm a bit O/C about saving EVERYTHING.

BTW, I have a new name to add to the cast list of Day Zero: Malina Linkas (http://malinalinkas.com/film.html). She plays "Feller's girl," and Elijah plays Aaron Feller. :)

honeyelf
05-14-2006, 01:09 AM
OK, the Keith Barry clip is on the greybook site. If it's not there just yet, try again in the morning, but we've up/downloaded it! :confused:

honey!

whiteling
05-14-2006, 04:19 AM
Saile, that photo of Elijah you posted is one of my favourites too! Lovely. Thanks! :)

*sniffle* for the shiny, lush locks
*sniffles with you and Mariole* I love his hair! Admittedly, his bald head gives us an opportunity to marvel at the perfect shape of his skull, but otherwise... I can't help it, his Aaron looks to me like Kojak's little brother.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/Day_Zero_TellyWood.jpg

"Who loves ya, Baby?" :p


Off to Honey's Greybook site. Thank you for putting up the Keith Barry clip :k

Shelbyshire
05-14-2006, 07:24 AM
:k Thank you, Honey!

I "genuinely" enjoyed that. I love it when he peppers his speech with a variety of more descriptive words instead of just saying, "I have no idea." And that giggle we know was a tad bit deeper in this segment. Of course, he did have something to be genuinely concerned about. Getting spike'd!

Pelagia
05-14-2006, 08:15 AM
Mechtild and whiteling, wonderful portraits of Igglijah! And Achila, thanks for the Lij-in-knots photos.* Looking at all of these pix, I’m becoming a little more reconciled to the prospect of Our Man playing this role (although I still can’t quite see him flinging himself around in mad onstage Iggy-esque abandon).

Alyon, your mentioning having watched EII again reminded me of my own reactions when I saw it (for the third time) after it came out on DVD. As I said to Achila, every time I watch that film, I notice more nuances in Elijah’s performance. It’s just SO subtle. The “microexpressions” are absolutely key, here.

DK whether this was already mentioned on this thread: A month or two ago, Total Film (UK magazine) had an article called “63 Ways to Improve the Movies.” This month, there was a letter to the editor suggesting several more improvements, including the following:66) Ban all chavs from cinemas across the country. Without chavs, you don’t have a target audience for s***e like Date Movie, Revolver, Green Street, etc.To which the editor replied: . . . at least two of us here like Green Street and at least one of those two isn’t a chav.Now, could one of our UK members please tell me what a “chav” is? I hope it isn’t too rude a term.

*Not to mention the lovely one from TMFKAH. (moans)

sneaking
05-14-2006, 08:37 AM
OK. Chavs. It's just a bit of (extremily common) british slang. I think it's probably easiest just to post the chav (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav) definition from wikipedia as that pretty much covers it. Note: the link at the bottom to the casuals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casuals). "Casuals" are what football hooligans were generally known as when I was at school, they are definitely part of anti-social chav-type culture and I think the "designer name" type culture that came from the casuals is part of where the look comes from.

During Green Street, the GSE do look very chav (there's a bit where one of the extras is wearing a Burberry cap, which is so much the stereotype of a chav that Burberry had to stop making them as it was destroying their brand name). Elijah's clothes get progressively more chav as the film goes (e.g. that lovely picture of him smoking above is fairly chavtastic) which did make me laugh a little. Elijah's not really a very chav type of guy.

Edit: I think the picture I mentioned wasn't what I thought it was. More like:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f153/sneakingraptor/chav.jpg

honeyelf
05-14-2006, 10:31 AM
Whiteling, now that's a reallly subtle manip! I like what he's got in his mouth there better than the other option.

And I'm just gonna admit that I'm rather enjoying this shaven-head thing while it lasts. He looks dangerous *shiver*. Of course we all know that'll only last until he takes those sunglasses off, and reveals those BIG. BLUE. EYES! :lol:

Sneaking, thank you for providing the definition of "chav". It cracks me up that Wikipedia used the term "bling" in their definition. How many countries does that word many anything in?

Shelbyshire, you're absolutely right about Elijah using those descriptive words; it's lovely to hear someone as articulate as him.

honey!

BunnieBugs
05-14-2006, 02:54 PM
There has been a sizeable update (http://imdb.com/title/tt0768183/fullcredits) on IMDb for Day Zero, including more cast and crew. :)

sneaking
05-14-2006, 04:26 PM
There has been a sizeable update (http://imdb.com/title/tt0768183/fullcredits) on IMDb for Day Zero, including more cast and crew. :)

Peepshow girls, streetwalkers and brawlers. Not to mention skinhead haircuts and tattoos and that they are going to require a Nurse somewhere along the line. Something is beginning to give me the impression that this isn't going to be fun for all the family. Definitely no lollipops. :lol:

I wonder if Ally Sheedy is playing a certain someone's Mum? Small, dark haired, it would kind of fit. I've forgotten her characters name from the Breakfast Club, but effectively she was the "Stokely" (wrong way round to put it since the Faculty is the rip off) which would be slightly strange.

honeyelf
05-15-2006, 03:34 AM
Ally Sheedy is in the cast of Day Zero? :eek: And I say again, :eek: ! Can you say Short Circuit? I knew you could! I'm beginning to get very nervous about this film.... :(

honey.

tgshaw
05-15-2006, 08:05 AM
Awww... I loved Short Circuit ("Life is not a malfunction.") :p

But then I also liked War Games, The Breakfast Club, and Only the Lonely. (Sneaking - I had the same thought the first time I saw The Faculty. :p )

BTW, Ally Sheedy was born in June 1962, so she would be old enough to be Elijah's mom. IMDb tidbit: Ally's first listed role was in 1981 (note the year) in a TV movie called "I Think I'm Having a Baby." Coincidence? :eek: ;) Disclaimer: Ally wasn't playing the one having the baby.

Achila
05-15-2006, 08:08 AM
BTW, Ally Sheedy was born in June 1962, so she would be old enough to be Elijah's mom.

That makes her a year younger than me. Gulp. Thanks for reminding me, TG :lol:

saile
05-15-2006, 08:51 AM
Oh Thanks honey for the downloadable file. :k Catching him just talking naturally always always brings a smile. IMHO his so natural charisma is palpable.

Oh meant to thank you Tg for linking to your new and updated filesMay updates are posted at frodolivesin.us - Another page of Nat pics in the Photo Shop area (either click on that link or on the "hands" pic on the Guest Book page to get in). Other additions, including some interesting but not pretty Shelob's Lair caps, are listed and linked to on the What's New page.

ETA: Forgot I also have just a few new Frodo pics in the Photo Shop section, too.
__________________ :k :k So enjoyed them.
saile

Mariole
05-15-2006, 10:04 AM
LOL! Yeah, Ally Sheedy, that punk kid, has finally grown up. *hugs Achila and the other 80% of us* Well, as my sister said, "Making babies is a game for the young." Lots of moms are in their teens and twenties. We tend to see older moms in movies, so everyone can pretend the stars are younger than they really are, especially if they've been around a while. Most moms don't have grey hair. I think most "movie" moms are equivalent to real life grandmas. It's a kick to watch older movies--pre-1960s. The moms in them are so young. "Hey, she's younger than me!" :eek: :D

I also liked War Games and The Breakfast Club (never saw Only the Lonely).

Mechtild
05-15-2006, 10:24 AM
I think most "movie" moms are equivalent to real life grandmas.
Hey, that makes me a natural for playing a movie mom! :D

Yours truly,

~ Old enough to be a grandma (we started late).

Seriously, though. An actor or actress needn't be the age of the character in order to play them. When Angela Lansbury played Laurence Harvey's mother in the original Manchurian Candidate, she was his own age, approximately. But, by then Angela was playing "character" roles (i.e. older, supporting characters). Harvey was still playing leads (i.e., younger, main characters).

Women often play older once they are considered past their "romantic lead" prime. That comes rather young to most actresses. It is improving as screenwriters produce more scripts depicting middle-aged women as characters who still have active love lives. Other women past "romantic lead" age still play leads, but as women notable for doing something other than loving the leading man. There aren't as many of those roles as one might wish, although there are a lot more than there used to be.

Besides. We're talking about someone playing EW's mother. EW's 25 is not Heath Ledger's 25, making BBM. A woman who looked forty could easily play EW's mother. It would be less convincing if she played Heath's. ;)

~ Mechtild

honeyelf
05-15-2006, 10:52 AM
Most moms don't have grey hair.

Some moms start early. I got my first grey hair when I was, umm...try seventeen! :eek: By the time I had my kids (in my twenties) I was looking kinda "distinguished." :rolleyes:

honey!

ceefour
05-15-2006, 11:28 AM
Several years ago I had dropped Young Master ceefour off at pre-school and on the way home stopped to get a cup of coffee. Young Miss ceefour was still a babe in arms. The clerk said, "Oh, I see you brought your granddaughter!" :lol:

Honeyelf, I had the opposite reaction to Ally Sheedy's name. I was relieved there was one other name on the cast and crew list I recognized.

C4

Achila
05-15-2006, 11:32 AM
Honeyelf, I had the opposite reaction to Ally Sheedy's name. I was relieved there was one other name on the cast and crew list I recognized.

Those of you who used to watch the show "Ed" might also recognize the name Ginnifer Goodwin. She was also in "Mona Lisa Smile" with Julia Roberts (and in an interesting twist, is Dom's ex-girlfriend).

ceefour
05-15-2006, 11:55 AM
IMDB has Ally Sheedy in the cast of Shooting Livien, which DM was in. Achila, didn't you and Pelagia see this?

C4

Achila
05-15-2006, 11:57 AM
IMDB has Ally Sheedy in the cast of Shooting Livien, which DM was in. Achila, didn't you and Pelagia see this?
Yes, we did see this, not that I remember much about the plot. Maybe she played Livien's mother?

tgshaw
05-15-2006, 12:03 PM
...(never saw Only the Lonely).
A romantic comedy with Ally and John Candy as two congenital loners who try to make themselves a couple. I don't know if most people would like it, but as a congenital loner myself I identified with a lot of it. IMHO, Anthony Quinn steals the show, as the neighbor who's trying to romance John Candy's straitlaced widowed mother (Maureen O'Hara).

saile - Glad you enjoyed the updates. :) Over the weekend I added caps from the Ash Wednesday flashback scene (http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/id82.htm). Not the greatest movie ever made, but some very interesting close-ups of Elijah in this particular scene. Also, the site's collecting enough "wordy" stuff, with a lot of essays even in the archives now, that I've added a site search to the home page.

ceefour
05-15-2006, 12:44 PM
tg, just tell the Customs people in the UK you're a member of The Faculty and they'll recognise that you are an esteemed scholar in the study of cloak action and microexpressions and let you right in. :haha:

(tg has written in teeny, tiny letters on her site that she is travelling to England for the Oxford Tolkien conference in August.)

C4

Brummie
05-15-2006, 01:15 PM
I'm still here, lurking and very much enjoyed, if that is the right word, the Punked discussion. All I can add with regard to what some see as Elijah's wimpiness is that in that kind of situation, apparently responsible for the destruction of the vehicle and the angry distress of its owner, any kind of assertiveness may make the situation worse.

Thank you Honey for the clip of the Keith Barry Show. :eek: It was lovely to see his reactions, though.

Those of you who used to watch the show "Ed" might also recognize the name Ginnifer Goodwin. She was also in Walk the Line, playing the unsympathetic role of Vivian Cash.

Achila
05-15-2006, 01:28 PM
She was also in Walk the Line, playing the unsympathetic role of Vivian Cash.

Of course -- how could I have forgotten that? :o

Shelbyshire
05-15-2006, 05:50 PM
(tg has written in teeny, tiny letters on her site that she is travelling to England for the Oxford Tolkien conference in August.)

C4 :) That is awesome, tg! What a wonderful adventure to go on!! :) We will want details you know. And since it has been posted recently, ;) you do know that no post is too long. And if you're too nervous to be excited, I'm sure the members of The Faculty will volunteer to be excited for you!!!

ceefour
05-16-2006, 10:32 AM
According to a poster at Oscarwatch, the premiere of Paris Je T'Aime at Cannes on Thursday is uncertain. The producers are at odds over 2 sections and the matter is in the French courts. If one producer prevails, the movie will be shown minus the disputed segments. If the other does, 2 new segments will be shot, thus postponing the release for a year.

C-you know, it's hard out here for an Elwood fan-4

honeyelf
05-16-2006, 12:12 PM
So to recap we've got:

- Happy Feet coming in November of this year
- Day Zero with it's no-name director in production (not to mention the whole hair thing)
- Bobby with at least one very bad review from an advance screening
- By contrast no news looks like good news for The Passenger

:( *sob*

you know, it's hard out here for an Elwood fan

I think you've summarized things very well indeed, CeeFour!

h

sneaking
05-16-2006, 02:11 PM
Hey, it's not all doom and gloom (even if it is mostly. :haha: ).

It PJT gets postponed to next year, that guarantees a movie release almost certainly in May next year as it would probably go to Cannes unless they've pissed them off too much.

Also, there is somebody on the Bobby IMDB board who claims to have seen the film at the screening and really liked it. Here's what they have to say (although I think this should be taken with a huge wheelbarrow full of salt for various reasons, not least of which is that it's the only thing the poster has ever posted):

Wow! Cast is awesome and excellent in their roles. Unlike you have ever seen them before. The editing was still very rough and you could tell it was work in progess, but these people have made a very powerful movie. Already on my top ten list for the year!!

So who knows what it was like really.

Lastly, at Movie City News, they've already started trying to figure out which films are going to be nominated for next years Oscars. Here's their chart (http://www.moviecitynews.com/columnists/poland/2007_oscar/060516_Picture.html).
They have Bobby on the list in 13th place ("Is it good enough?" which is a question we'd all like the answer too). If there wer gossiping vultures circling and it was well known in the industry to be a complete disaster area, I would presume that they would have heard something and it wouldn't be on the list at all or it would be slap bang in the bottom with some kind of Mighty Duck joke.

Mariole
05-16-2006, 02:44 PM
Wow! Cast is awesome and excellent in their roles. Unlike you have ever seen them before. The editing was still very rough and you could tell it was work in progess, but these people have made a very powerful movie. Already on my top ten list for the year!!
Hey, I recognize that style! It's used by Elijah Wood when he surfs the web undercover! Elwood is plugging his own movie!!! :eek: :D :haha:

Thank you for the list of movies, Honey! Thanks for the follow-up, Sneaking! And thanks for the inside scoop, C-you know, it's hard out here for an Elwood fan-4! :k

Tg, let me join the ranks of people who are thrilled about your Oxford trip. How wonderful!

whiteling
05-16-2006, 03:32 PM
So to recap we've got:

- Happy Feet coming in November of this year
- Day Zero with it's no-name director in production (not to mention the whole hair thing)
- Bobby with at least one very bad review from an advance screening
- By contrast no news looks like good news for The Passenger

:( *sob*


Somehow, this discussion reminded me of the conference Lord Elrond and Gandalf had in Rivendell:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/elrond_gandalf.jpg

Elrond: And yet, to have come this far still bearing all those film projects, the Elijah fans have shown extraordinary resilience to their evil.

Gandalf: It is a burden they should never have had to bear. We can ask no more of them...

Elrond: Gandalf, the time is moving. Movie audience's forces are massing in the East, their Eye is fixed on Elijah!


Uh-uh. :eek:


Mariole, I love your theory on the true identity of that poster. :D

Tg, great news! You going to Oxford - seems just 'natural' to me. :)

tgshaw
05-16-2006, 07:33 PM
"...Our list of wide releases grows thin." :(


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Thanks for all the excitement about Oxford - I hope I'm going :confused: . All I have for sure is a flight there and back. I'm still waiting to hear from the people putting on the conference. I asked for information last week and so far have just gotten an automated "You'll be hearing from us soon" reply.

At least one of the speakers is a rabid book purist from that email group I used to belong to, and I can imagine the conversation: "What?! No, she can't come! She liked the movies, FGS!" :eek: That's not what he's going to speak about, thank goodness! And there are two other speakers I really really want to hear (and possibly talk with one of them, if such a thing can happen).

I don't have the energy to feel too excited right now. I'm not really sick - you know, enough to stay home from work or anything :rolleyes: . Just on antibiotics for some bacterial gunk that decided to invade, and feeling kind of drained. When I feel better - and when I hear from the organizers :z: - I know I'll be more excited.

Achila
05-17-2006, 07:43 AM
It looks like Paris Je T'aime is a go for tomorrow. Don't know what happened to resolve the situation but it's on the official schedule again. :)

honeyelf
05-17-2006, 08:11 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/elrond_gandalf.jpg

Elrond: And yet, to have come this far still bearing all those film projects, the Elijah fans have shown extraordinary resilience to their evil.

Gandalf: It is a burden they should never have had to bear. We can ask no more of them...

Elrond: Gandalf, the time is moving. Movie audience's forces are massing in the East, their Eye is fixed on Elijah!


Uh-uh. :eek:


:lol: Whiteling, you have a deliciously twisted mind!

"...Our list of wide releases grows thin." :(

:lol: :( :( :(

There are WireImage photos up of Lij at Cannes. He looks wonderful with his hair starting to grow back in, and just the right amount of facial fuzz! I'll post a big one a soon as I find it.

honey!

ETA: Sorry about the watermark, and that it's not bigger.
ETAA: Thanks to Patsie at LJ
http://static.flickr.com/39/148161816_b4e0f3b284_o.jpg

whiteling
05-17-2006, 08:50 AM
Whiteling, you have a deliciously twisted mind!
Okay, I take this as a compliment. :D :k

Grrreat picture, Honey! *stares*
Gah! Have you seen the picture on his shirt?! Now, that depicts the German word "Brustbild" (half length portrait, literally "breast picture")... :lol:

Mariole
05-17-2006, 08:53 AM
What Honeyelf said! Whiteling and Tg, you rock! :D

I love that picture, Honey! I can't believe how old our One Lad looks. He's really grown out of the manchild phase into manhood. *sniffs back a tear, thanks stars for Frolijah*

Achila
05-17-2006, 08:53 AM
Gah! Have you seen the picture on his shirt?! Now, that depicts the German word "Brustbild" (half length portrait, literally "breast picture")... :lol:
It's a vintage T from the band The Cars

sneaking
05-17-2006, 01:14 PM
The Hollywood Reporter has its review (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/awards/cannes/review_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002465107) of Paris Je T'Aime up. It's a positive review (with the to be expected "uneven" comment). No mention of Elijah except an oblique comment on backpackers getting "pounced" on by vampires. Pounced sounds good to me.

Pelagia
05-18-2006, 07:43 AM
sneaking, belated thanks for the “chav” definition – and for that picture of bruised-and-brooding Matt! Achila could tell you about the effect that sequence in the movie has on me. :eek:

whiteling, your talents are, as ever, priceless!

honeyelf's recap of upcoming Elijah films reminded me of a recent Entertainment Weekly article about whether big movie stars (e.g., Tom Cruise) are worth the money they make. The article mentioned that producers are now trying to rein in stars’ pay, and said that younger, rising actors may have difficulty commanding high prices unless they have fans who maintain “Internet shrines” and count the days until the actor’s next film is released. Well, by those criteria, Elijah shouldn’t have anything to worry about in the cash department, anyway.

And thanks for the Cannes photo, honey. My goodness, he looks different. He reminds me of SOMEone (will have to ponder who it is). Let's see -- 2 months until ELF; his hair by then should have grown another inch. . . . [shivers in anticipation]

As for Ally Sheedy, didn’t she get very good reviews a few years ago for an indie film where she played an artist? I don’t remember the character she played in Shooting Livien – maybe an agent?

Oh, tg – lucky you, to be going to the UK for the Tolkien conference! Are you (Ringer-style) planning on taking any action figures along to photograph at key Tolkien sites??

honeyelf
05-18-2006, 08:49 AM
... younger, rising actors may have difficulty commanding high prices unless they have fans who maintain “Internet shrines” and count the days until the actor’s next film is released. Well, by those criteria, Elijah shouldn’t have anything to worry about in the cash department, anyway.


How weird! In my search for further reviews this morning I googled "Paris j'Taime" cannes film festival, and what should come up as number 5 on the list but our very own "internet shrine"! If that's any measure, our...um...idol :rolleyes: should have scripts dropping on his doorstep with great frequency, and be tripping over producers who lie in wait for him at every Starbucks! Are we blessed or cursed that our particular idol chooses so often to follow the beat of a different drummer? I guess only time will tell.

TG, I keep forgetting to say how excited I am for your trip to Oxford! I hope it comes off as planned!

I'm off on my own little adventure this morning; I fly out for Toronto where Hubby-Darling and I'll see the LoTR musical stage production tomorrow night! :) And on Saturday I'll be in New York visiting with CeeFour and our old friend Flourish! :) :) I can't wait!

honey!

Achila
05-18-2006, 08:58 AM
How weird! In my search for further reviews this morning I googled "Paris j'Taime" cannes film festival, and what should come up as number 5 on the list but our very own "internet shrine"!

How cool! BTW, there are a couple of new photos on Getty of Lij at the premiere earlier today.

I'm off on my own little adventure this morning; I fly out for Toronto where Hubby-Darling and I'll see the LoTR musical stage production tomorrow night! :) And on Saturday I'll be in New York visiting with CeeFour and our old friend Flourish! :) :) I can't wait!

Looking forward to hearing your review of the show. And so sorry I won't be joining you on Saturday :( But Bon Voyage, Gute Reise and all that!

Brummie
05-18-2006, 10:48 AM
New trailer for Paris je t'aime up here.

http://www.commeaucinema.com/news.php3?nominfos=54312&Rub=BA#

Click on Bande Annonce. Enjoy.

Edit: Sorry, I pasted the wrong link. This should work

Bohemian
05-18-2006, 11:14 AM
There's no such thing. I think it's asking for a password..

Achila
05-18-2006, 11:16 AM
Yep -- I'm getting the same thing. Help, Brummie!

ceefour
05-18-2006, 11:33 AM
Looks like we've moved up to #2 on Google's list, second only to wikipedia.

Yes, I'm braving the wilds of Amtrak alone. Our little fellowship is breaking this weekend. I'm headed north to Arnor, Achila's traveling south to Gondor, and since Pelagia's journeying east and crossing the river, I guess she gets to go to Mordor. :eek:

Pelagia, I thought EW looked rather Matthew McConnaughy-ish with the very short hair and stubble.

C4

ETA-Thanks, Brummie! Definitely some Frodotyping.

saile
05-18-2006, 01:01 PM
Oh Brummie:k the link is excellent. Why am I so excited to HEAR TOL on this trailer. :rolleyes:

And thanks :k Honey so for the pix and heads up! Oh what fun.

Hope all travelling have a marvelous time.
saile

Pelagia
05-18-2006, 04:09 PM
honeyelf and Flourish, I’m so sorry that I won’t be able to come to New York with ceefour to meet you this weekend. And BTW, to clarify what ceefour wrote: . . . and since Pelagia's journeying east and crossing the river, I guess she gets to go to Mordor. Maybe the Dead Marshes? Well, salt marshes, anyway. Although I suppose there are some people who would equate New Jersey with Mordor. ;)

The Guardian currently has an online quiz about football (in the ex-US sense) in film. Question #10 is:In Lexi Alexander's Green Street, which football club does Elijah Wood's character "support"? Well, at least it’s found a home as a trivia item.

Not about Elijah, but I thought this was funny (also from the Guardian), from one of his ex-costars: Amid an unprecedented amount of hype and hoopla for an opening movie at the Cannes film festival, it took the inimitable Ian McKellen to knock Dan Brown and his swollen bestseller down to size. . . . Sir Ian, who plays the Earl Grey-loving grail expert Sir Leigh Teabing in The Da Vinci Code, said before the film's world premiere yesterday: "While I was reading the book I believed it entirely. Clever Dan Brown twisted my mind convincingly. But when I put it down I thought, 'What a load of ... [eloquent pause] potential codswallop." Since we are worshippers at this Internet shrine, perhaps we need to develop a storyline for The Elijah Code. Some of us already see Elijah-esque (or Frodo-esque, at least) allusions all over the place. It's nearly impossible for Achila, ceefour, and me to get through any movie without spotting at least one. Surely we can come up with a conspiracy theory. The longstanding plot to suppress the truth that EJW is the most talented actor (= Holy Grail) of his generation. The conspiracy to substitute the likes of Jake Gyllenhaal for this title. Mechtild or whiteling, surely you can come up with a famous work of art that is full of clues! Then all we need is an albino monk.

Mechtild
05-18-2006, 04:33 PM
Ah Pelagia, you made me laugh with your "Elijah Code" paragraph! Thanks. I needed that. :p

~ Mechtild

Alyon
05-18-2006, 09:22 PM
As for Ally Sheedy, didn’t she get very good reviews a few years ago for an indie film where she played an artist


Pelagia--I think the movie with Ally Sheedy that you are referring to is called High Art. She played a lesbian photographer and was superb. I should check the title to be sure--but she had very reviews...

whiteling
05-19-2006, 04:27 AM
Since we are worshippers at this Internet shrine, perhaps we need to develop a storyline for The Elijah Code. Some of us already see Elijah-esque (or Frodo-esque, at least) allusions all over the place. It's nearly impossible for Achila, ceefour, and me to get through any movie without spotting at least one. Surely we can come up with a conspiracy theory. The longstanding plot to suppress the truth that EJW is the most talented actor (= Holy Grail) of his generation. The conspiracy to substitute the likes of Jake Gyllenhaal for this title. Mechtild or whiteling, surely you can come up with a famous work of art that is full of clues! Then all we need is an albino monk.
*peeks conspiratorial from behind curtain* Pst! Pst! Pelagia! Holy Grail?! Elijah Code? I have some top secret information for you...
Actually, there is no such thing like a Da Vinci Code. In truth, it is The Michelangelo Code.
What is the best way to hide something safely? Exactly - you display it publicly! Michelangelo did exactly that. In the very centre of christendom, in the Vatican St. Peter's Basilica. :eek:

You may know his affecting Pieta:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/michel_pieta_compl_small.jpg


Millions of tourists take photographs of it; art historians have studied it thoroughly... but only Members of the Order of the Elijahnists have access to its secret...only they can SEE it...all you Elijahnists, I ask you ---

WHAT DO YOU SEE HERE?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/michel_pieta_chisthead_Frod.jpg



How's that for a conspiracy theory? ;)
(Sorry, the albino monk didn't fit in...)

ceefour
05-19-2006, 08:16 AM
Whiteling! :lol:

C4

ETA-TORN has posted several photos of EW (and Ian McKellan, too) at Cannes. Someone with more computer skills than I (that would be the entire Faculty) could bring them over, perhaps? Is the "unidentified companion" the infamous Pam?

saile
05-19-2006, 09:52 AM
Hope you don't mind Bunnie if I post them here. And from Hobmom too. :k
Unlike Torn, I don't think there is anything scary about his look :confused:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/cannes1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/cannes2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/cannes3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/cannes4.jpg
saile :D :D

BunnieBugs
05-19-2006, 10:22 AM
Hope you don't mind Bunnie if I post them here. Of course, I don't mind! I think he looks fabulous!

I'm not overly fond of the whiskers, but I don't dislike them, either. I think they go well with the buzzcut. He looks great, and happy! And am I wrong, or is this the first time he's had an actual guest (not including Hannah) on the red carpet? ;) (Oh, and for those who are thinking that she towers over him more than they expected her to, she is wearing four-inch heels. How's a guy supposed to compete with that? :p :) )

Mechtild
05-19-2006, 10:22 AM
Whiteling, I know I already commented in your LJ, but that manip is so beautifully done! I had to look twice to see that it wasn't the actual face of the statue (whose face is difficult to see in the actual piece).

Saile, thanks for posting those. Who is the Elf woman in the top and bottom pics? I love her dress (I know, I know - OT). His suit's ok; his sleeve and trouser hems could use taking up. It looks like he borrowed it from Jeremy Irons.

Definitely don't like the beard, but only because there isn't enough of it. If he's going to have one, I'd rather he commit and have one, not one of those Elizabethan chin-shadowings. The overall effect, for me, of his having such short hair -- so that his head looks like a rounded cube -- and a darkened jawline and chin, is that his skull and upper face area seem disproportionately large compared to the lower part of his face. Like I think a fuller beard would balance it out more. Otherwise he is in danger of looking like a hirsute Tweetie Pie. ;)

Tweetie Pie:

http://www.simply-balloons.com/shop/shopimages/products/thumbnails/0742301-s.jpg


Tweetie after he gets the Ring:

http://recollectionbooks.com/bleed/images/BB/tweety1.gif


~ Mechtild

BunnieBugs
05-19-2006, 10:27 AM
Saile, thanks for posting those. Who is the Elf woman in the top and bottom pics? I love her dress (I know, I know - OT). His suits ok; his sleeve and trouser hems could use taking up. It looks like he borrowed it from Jeremy Irons.

Oh, Mechtild! :lol: Tweetie Pie!

The woman is his girlfriend, Pamela Racine. I don't know why he seldom has his suits tailored... Can't be bothered? I thought the sleeves looked okay, but the trousers are definitely too long. I love the all-black look, though. The two of them look stunning together!

Mariole
05-19-2006, 01:13 PM
Thanks for posting the piccies, BunnieBugs and Saile!

I like the Elizabethan chin-shadowing. I don't know if I'd like a full beard better, as I've never seen him in one (and may not for several more years, until his follicles develop!). I know I hate the cue-ball Tweetie Pie (pre-Ring) look. The chin hair helps, but then I like any hair. More hair! (Except on the chest; I'm a smooth-chest kind of woman... I mean, I prefer that on men. It's not like I have to shave myself!). :D

It's nice that his girlfriend is now showing up in public. I don't know why; perhaps it shows his growing confidence? Or perhaps the weirdos who want him to date who they want him to date are growing thin on the ground? In any case, it's nice to see. *blows them both a kiss*

Mechtild
05-19-2006, 01:27 PM
Bunnie: that's Pam? I didn't even recognize her. I have seen other pics of her since they'd started being photographed last year.

Well, don't we all look different dressed to the nines, compared to clomping around in our sneakers and jeans? Not that she doesn't look great in every shot, being lovely, tall, slim, and young (always a winning combination, hmm? ;) ), but she looks positively beautiful in these shots.

With Mariole, I am happy to see him with his lover on his arm for the occasion and not just a starlet assigned to him for the publicity.

*bosom swells with pride in her Tweetie*

~ Mechtild

ceefour
05-19-2006, 02:26 PM
*C4 sneaks into the Lounge and hopes that the Faculty doesn't notice that she's not here to look at the pictures of EW for once, but is really back to look at Miss Pamela's jewelry.*

Achila
05-19-2006, 07:33 PM
Alicia Keys, John Mayer, Denzel Washington, Matthew McConaughey, Elijah Wood, John Travolta, Ryan Cabrera and the Bravery are among those who've kicked in items for an online charity auction organized by a group of Utah junior high school students. Olympus Junior High Schoolers have mobilized in an effort to help their hearing-impaired janitor, Terry Birch, afford cochlear implants to aid his hearing (Birch and his wife, who is deaf, already face mounting medical bills from her ongoing battle with breast cancer). Also on the block are tickets to the upcoming premiere of Jack Black's "Nacho Libre" and autographed items from sports legends including Magic Johnson, Wayne Gretzky, Steve Young and members of the world champion Pittsburgh Steelers. You can find out more about the auction and the effort behind it at www.help-terry.org. ...

Pelagia
05-20-2006, 07:06 AM
whiteling, your revelation of the truth about the Pieta is superb! Like Mechtild, it took me a moment to realize that isn’t the statue’s real face. Just demonstrates what other people have said here before about how “Renaissance” he looks (though some have said Baroque, IIRC). If he were taller, he could look great in period pieces: the new Errol Flynn! Just imagine a remake of Elizabeth and Essex, with Cate Blanchett and Elijah. Or Robin Hood!

saile (and Bunnie), thank you for the Cannes pix – especially that second one that is tight up on his face. I don’t mind the beard, but the glimpses of white skull through the peach fuzz are rather disturbing. I’m with Mariole – more hair, please! As for his tailoring, I think he may as well stick to his ripped jeans and sneakers. . . .

Alyon, thanks for pulling High Art up from your memory bank.

tgshaw
05-20-2006, 07:40 AM
Hint on the pants (since we know Elijah's reading this, right? ;) ): If you wear boots, you need to get boot cut.

If he wants to have face fuzz between filmings, that's okay by me - it'll be coming off soon enough for some role or other. The discussion caused a bit of reflection on the fact that working actors very seldom have full beards. No time to grow them, even if they do have great follicles. They're either clean shaven or do the bit-of-fringe thing between films.

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Things I'm thankful for:

Elijah and Pam are untroubled enough about the "height thing" that she wears 4-inch heels! (Mother hen kicks in - But not all the time, I hope. Not good for your feet. :rolleyes: )

Elijah is not in Nacho Libre. :eek:

The kids in Utah are raising money for their custodian - not a classmate or a teacher (nothing against raising money for classmates and teachers, it's just nice to see the "class barrier" ignored).

Elijah donated a picture wtih an actual autograph to the auction, not one that's "laser signed" like some celebrities did.

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I followed the clicks from Achila's link on that Ebay auction and have the following info:

Elijah's donation is a signed photograph. Interesting in that it's a black-and-white pic that I've never seen (which doesn't mean no one else has, of course). It's definitely posed, but almost looks as if it could be a snapshot. If I understand Elijah's "hair eras" correctly, it looks like kitten hair.

There have been 8 bids so far, with the top bid $17.09. There are six days left in the auction. The person who's top bidder at this point also recently bought something from an auction raising money for an animal shelter/rescue (something like that). Wonder if Elijah had donated something to that, too, or if she just likes to support good causes.

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Need to add my agreement to Whiteling's skill with the photo manip - How do you do that (make it look so real, that is)? :cool:

saile
05-20-2006, 07:59 AM
Things I'm thankful for:

Elijah and Pam are untroubled enough about the "height thing" that she wears 4-inch heels! I LOVE that as well. He must be comfortable in his own skin...in a very good way.

I need to check out Achila's link on the auction.....hmmmmmmm. Thanks Achila.
saile

Pelagia
05-20-2006, 03:08 PM
I just noticed that we have an ad on here at the moment for “Philips Norelco Bodygroom: The safe and easy trimmer for male body hair. With less irritation.” Mariole, this is all your doing, with your "smooth-chest kind of woman" comment! :lol:

Mariole
05-20-2006, 10:54 PM
I just noticed that we have an ad on here at the moment for “Philips Norelco Bodygroom: The safe and easy trimmer for male body hair. With less irritation.” Mariole, this is all your doing, with your "smooth-chest kind of woman" comment!
*clicks on the ad madly* AWAY, NASTY CHEST HAIR!!!

BunnieBugs
05-20-2006, 11:40 PM
Elijah's donation is a signed photograph. Interesting in that it's a black-and-white pic that I've never seen (which doesn't mean no one else has, of course). It's definitely posed, but almost looks as if it could be a snapshot. If I understand Elijah's "hair eras" correctly, it looks like kitten hair.
That photograph is an interesting choice for an autograph, as it's actually quite old. Back around the time of promotion for The Faculty (at least, I think that's when it was), he did an ad for The Gap, and that is from that photoshoot. So, it's actually around 8 years old. :eek:

honeyelf
05-21-2006, 07:14 AM
Morning from New York! I saw Flourish :k and CeeFour :k yesterday, and we had a great time. We took in a couple of museums, and got ourselves around a nice quiet little lunch too! A lOooooong stretch of sixth avenue was closed off for a street fair of some sort :eek:, so the little restaurant we found for lunch was perfectly happy to let us sit at the table for a long time, chatting about this and that, and looking at pictures of each others families.

One of the museums had an amazing collection of contemporary wood sculpture on display, one of the larger pieces being a sculpture of a head with tiny nails standing in for close cropped hair. CeeFour observed that it looked rather like Mr. Wood's current hair-do. I agreed adding that - like Mr. Wood's current do - I wanted to pet it! ;)

And speaking of pictures, we've hit the mother-load with all the Cannes stuff coming in! Very nice! I love the pics of Elijah and Pamela, who is a bit taller than himself even without the 4" heels!

Well, I'm off to post in thread for LoTR, the musical which I have now seen!

honey!

saile
05-21-2006, 09:44 AM
Good to hear form you Honey and hear of your NY doings. :D:D


That photograph is an interesting choice for an autograph, as it's actually quite old. Back around the time of promotion for The Faculty (at least, I think that's when it was), he did an ad for The Gap, and that is from that photoshoot. So, it's actually around 8 years old. :eek:

I did notice the said photo is bidding around $88 bucks this morning. Browsed the rest and that seems like the high bid for a mere signed photo (8 years old at that). :D :D
saile

Mariole
05-21-2006, 10:51 AM
That photograph [is] actually around 8 years old. :eek:
What!?! Can it be?!? Are you trying to tell me that the rest of the world does not follow the yearly changes to Elwood's face, in terms of changing bone structure and relative proportion of features? Are there people who are actually fooled into thinking this is a current photograph? Can they not see the vast difference between Manling and Man!?!?

Upon reflection, I must relax. Clearly, the bids reflect the respect fans have even for "vintage" Elwood. No one is fooled, they like the photo, and it's an old one Elwood just had lying around cluttering up his drawer. It's a win-win. :)

Hobmom
05-21-2006, 12:57 PM
What!?! Can it be?!? Are you trying to tell me that the rest of the world does not follow the yearly changes to Elwood's face, in terms of changing bone structure and relative proportion of features? Are there people who are actually fooled into thinking this is a current photograph? Can they not see the vast difference between Manling and Man!?!?


LOL! I believe I can tell what MONTH a picture of Elijah was taken in. Is that TOO obsessive? :rolleyes: ;)

I'm still around, BTW. :D I stopped getting the notifications for awhile and when I peeked back in here you had all moved again!

saile
05-21-2006, 02:32 PM
I'm still around, BTW. :D
That's always good to know! :k

saile

ps. love your gallery and site, thanks.

ceefour
05-21-2006, 06:55 PM
It is so nice to put a face and voice with a name. Our afternoon was splendid!

I was nervous getting on the train (all by my lonesome-- you'd think I was a child! :rolleyes: ) Amtrak has a magazine by each seat (like the airlines) and this month's issue had Liev Schrieber on the cover. You will all think I'm daft, but my thinking was since he made a movie with EW, it was a sign that everything would go smoothly. :o And it did! :cool:

(tg, it's a shame you couldn't see the 4 stories tall ads for Nacho Libre in NY. :haha: )

C4

BunnieBugs
05-22-2006, 11:59 AM
Ain't It Cool News' Quint has posted a review of Bobby. I didn't read much of it, as I don't want to be spoiled, but he seems to be saying that it's got potential to be a solid film, but it needs more editing (he saw a rough cut). Unfortunately, he had this to say about Elijah:

In the interest of remaining kind of spoiler-free, I'll say that these scenes aren't necessarily bad, they're just not that great. Lohan isn't very good, and Wood has certainly seen better days. I don't really have any suggestions of what to do with these two characters, except to maybe minimize them a little bit.

Oh, well. Is it Quint that is not overly fond of Elijah's work? I can't remember. Maybe the rest of us will see something quite different. But I'm afraid I'm not counting on getting a whole lot of satisfaction from this film in terms of Elijah's presence. Guess I'll sit back and wait for Day Zero and the Iggy film.

Achila
05-22-2006, 12:05 PM
Glad to hear that you guys had such a great time in My Little Town, even if it was without me... :(

Clips from Paris Je T'aime press conference etc are here:
http://www.festival-cannes.fr/video/index.php?langue=6002&jour=18

Don't know how much Elijah is in these -- I haven't watched them yet but supposedly he talks about his segment during the press conference.

saile
05-22-2006, 12:55 PM
In one of the many video clips from Cannes circulating on the web there was one with Vincenzo Natali (spelled right???), Elijah's Director for Paris Je T'aime. He spoke highly of Elijah and said he had a script he was going to/gave to Elijah, wanting to work with Him again. Hey mutual admiration is a good thing, yes?
I'm a firm believer "in what goes around comes around" so in Elijah's case it should ALL BE Good. :D :D

saile

sneaking
05-22-2006, 03:27 PM
In one of the many video clips from Cannes circulating on the web there was one with Vincenzo Natali (spelled right???), Elijah's Director for Paris Je T'aime. He spoke highly of Elijah and said he had a script he was going to/gave to Elijah, wanting to work with Him again. Hey mutual admiration is a good thing, yes?
I'm a firm believer "in what goes around comes around" so in Elijah's case it should ALL BE Good. :D :D

saile

The next thing that Natali has listed at IMDB is High Rise an adaptation of the J.G. Ballard novel. Just the idea that somebody is making a film of it is giving me goosebumps. It's basically about a tower block (a skyscraper or whatever) where the residents are collapsing into total barbarism (not surprisingly for Ballard, it's a satire on the modern world). I'm not sure the book exactly works but it's certainly always interesting. As well as vampires (the next film after that he's got listed is called Necropolis) he obviously likes stories where the characters are artificially contained (crf. Cube). I'm not sure if there's a viable Elijah part in High Rise though. And we ready to see him eat dogs?

Edit: Actually maybe there is a part, Laing, if they write it younger. The sort of main narrator (the ballard character if your familiar with his books), the guy who is the only male survivor. Quite a dark part. And I think he has his own harem at some point (can't really remember).

Eandme
05-22-2006, 05:43 PM
Thank you Achila for that link to the clip from Cannes. I fast forwarded most of it because Paris Je t'aime is the third and final movie that it covers. It's funny, although Elijah does not speak a single word throughout the whole thing, the camera lingers on him like he's ...beautiful or something...weird. ;)

Shelbyshire
05-22-2006, 08:12 PM
Saw this at Elijah Wood Now. Is it a rerun? Could someone upload it? Thanks!

http://www.biography.com/listings/episode_details.do?episodeid=164249&airingid=164477 (http://)

honeyelf
05-23-2006, 12:03 AM
Glad to hear that you guys had such a great time in My Little Town, even if it was without me... :(

We certainly thought of you and Pelagia while there. I LOVE your "Little Town", and I'm sure there'll be a next time. 'Course any and all Facultyites are always invited to come visit the Little City by the Bay. I'd love to show you around!

Meanwhile I'm stuck in Chicago; our plane from NYNY got in too late to hook up with our connecting flight home! :eek: Drat! Gotta get home soon so I can download all the Cannes goodies!

honey!

BunnieBugs
05-23-2006, 12:11 PM
Re- The Cannes clips: There are three clips on there in which Elijah actually speaks: the photocall/interview, the steps, and the press conference. You can watch them streaming on the site that Achila linked, or they are available at my LJ for download, if you want them for posterity.

And I think he has his own harem at some point (can't really remember).That makes me want to bibble, but I'll refrain. ;) And the only male survivor? I would think he'd be much in demand. It sounds intriguing, but I'm almost more curious about the "Necropolis" one; I wonder what that is about? Maybe that is the script that he gave Elijah!

BunnieBugs
05-24-2006, 11:04 AM
Wow, it's quiet here. Maybe this will stir folks up:

From this Elisha Cuthbert fansite: (http://www.elisha-fans.com/)

I just saw an interview with Elisha on ET Canada.
...
She also mentioned she will be filming a new movie in June with Elijah Wood.
It is a love story but sort of dark.
I think it will be called Vamp.


There is no confirmation of this, yet, and no telling what sort of role Elijah will have in it (though, personally, I'm hoping for the romantic lead. :z: ), but it sounds promising! :)

honeyelf
05-24-2006, 11:39 AM
... an interview with Elisha on ET Canada.
...
She also mentioned she will be filming a new movie in June with Elijah Wood.
It is a love story but sort of dark.
I think it will be called Vamp.


There is no confirmation of this, yet, and no telling what sort of role Elijah will have in it (though, personally, I'm hoping for the romantic lead. :z: ), but it sounds promising! :)

Interesting title. Could mean vampire, or it could refer to the old word from the twenties, which probably sorta roughly translates to skank nowadays. That's assuming that the poster got the title right at all. But, heck, if we couldn't speculate here we'd have nothin' to say at all! ;)

honey!

ceefour
05-24-2006, 02:45 PM
There is a positive review of a preview screening of Bobby posted at oscarwatch.com (along with the usual snippy remarks). The score is by Thomas Newman, who also scored The Shawshank Redemption, Angels in America, and The War.

(Maybe someone could bring this over here from there? I really need to learn how to use this machine...)

C4

honeyelf
05-24-2006, 03:20 PM
There is a positive review of a preview screening of Bobby posted at oscarwatch.com (along with the usual snippy remarks). The score is by Thomas Newman, who also scored The Shawshank Redemption, Angels in America, and The War

(Maybe someone could bring this over here from there? I really need to learn how to use this machine...)

Here ya go!

from Oscar Igloo Review (http://www.theoscarigloo.com/Reviews/2006/bobby.html)

By Clayton Davis

I have just seen one of the frontrunners of Oscar 2007 and it could be the contemporary, American film that hits it out of the park with critics and viewers. “Bobby” which tells the story of the assassination of Robert Kennedy, the little brother of the late and also assassinated President John F. Kennedy, and what was going on 16 hours before it happened. We are thrown back and forth between 22 characters stories and lives. Emilio Estevez, who wrote, directed, and co-stars in the film has truly elevated his level of direction of writing. This is the same man who wrote and directed hit and miss films like “Men at Work” and “The War at Home.” He parallels us through a journey of injustice, racism, prejudice, adultery, and more. This film much like “Crash” could be the multi-character film that has the “Good Night, and Good Luck” touch that makes it to the ceremony.

This film leads an all-star cast of some A-list and some B-list actors.William H. Macy plays the manager of the famous Ambassador Hotel (which theOscars were held at a few times) and Sharon Stone plays his wife and hairdresser of the hotel. Heather Graham plays one of switchboard operators whoMacy is having an affair with. Demi Moore plays Virginia Fallon, the alcoholic lounge singer who is set to introduce the doomed candidate of the presidency. Estevez portrays Moore’s husband and manager being tormented inside by his wife’s addiction. Lindsay Lohan who as a step now to bring herself into more serious roles, depicts Diane, a young bride to be, who ismarrying her boyfriend’s brother to keep him from going to Vietnam.

Elijah Wood plays the future and very grateful husband. Freddy Rodriguez known
for his role in “Six Feet Under” and Jacob Vargas known for his supporting rolesin “Traffic” and “Jarhead,” play Mexican kitchen staff members whom are working a double shift and are in search of equality. Laurence Fishburne is Edward Robinson, an older black kitchen staff employee who is teaching his staff members about offering more to life than anger. Joshua Jackson and Nick Cannon are campaign managers for the infamous Bobby. Real life father of Emilio Estevez, Martin Sheen is Jack, a depressed older man who marries a younger woman portrayed brilliantly by Helen Hunt. Christian Slater isTimmons the very racist kitchen staff manager who is not subtle about his feelings towards minorities. And veterans Sir Anthony Hopkins and HarryBelafonte are John Casey, the owner of the hotel and Nelson, an old friend reminiscing of the old days in the hotel. And at the end we have a little Ashton Kutcher, Shia LaBeouf, and Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

The movie races against the clock to bring us into all these characters lives and show us about America and where we’ve come from. The film has it all, some comic relief coming from Kutcher, your strong political message, the dramatic elements, and the emotional punch that lays the icing on the cake. This is one of the most important films of the year and if justice is served this will be on many critics’ top 10 lists of the year. I can’t explain too much more about the film without giving away vital parts but it speaks to America. It shows where we’ve been and where we are now. The mention of Dr. King and his impact on people fighting for equal rights ismentioned quite of a bit. Bobby Kennedy was the light at the end of the dark tunnel of America. People believed he was going to do some amazing things for us and we might never know if he would have lived up to those expectations but I am now very informed of his life and legacy and how much he meant to so many individuals.

Oscar prospects are as follows: Emilio Estevez could very well be the Paul Haggis of the year with his excellent writing and direction of the film. I never would have thought he had it in him to pull of this emotionally and politically charged film out of him. The performances are amazing and mind blowing but with 22 different characters as oppose to Crash’s ten or twelve it’s hard to pick a standout. I’d place bets for Laurence Fishburne who has already received raves for his “Akeelah and the Bee”, Helen Hunt’s haunting and powerful performance very reminiscent of Julianne Moore’s performance in “The Hours”, and if critics go crazy over it then we could see Harry Belafonte as the veteran of the year to make it to the short list for the first time. My favorite of the cast was by far Freddy Rodriguez as Jose who brings a sense of humanity to his role which mirrors Michael Pena’s Daniel in Crash. I wouldn’t even be hesitant to say Christian Slater was great as a racist who also mirrors Matt Dillon’s Oscar nominated performance in Crash.

As you can see this is a more political Crash with a Good Night, and Good Luck flavor with a side of The Constant Gardener. This is my number one film of the year thus far and I cannot wait to see the final product because it was a pre-screening with some choppy editing but all the other elements with Thomas Newman’s powerful score makes “Bobby” the most enjoyable and imperative film of the year.

Grade: ****/****
Wow! :eek: These reviews have been all over the map! I don't know what to believe. I guess time will tell.

ETA: Is this Clayton Davis guy a professional reviewer? There is something very amateurish about this review, don't you think? All the constant comparisons to Crash are pitiful! How often does last year's Oscar winner bear any resemblance to the next?

ETAA: Sorry for my snippy remarks! :(

honey!

Shelbyshire
05-24-2006, 04:14 PM
From LJ, elijahnewsdaily. I saw Hobmom was just here but didn't post these so I just could not help myself. From Day Zero and they are just awesome! There's a few more over in LJ land. They are photos of him, not a character and against a solid background. Personally, I like these! :k

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/DayZero.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/DayZero2.jpg

BunnieBugs
05-25-2006, 07:33 PM
I found another website for Elisha Cuthbert that lists Vamp as her upcoming film with Elijah. No filming dates, or anything, but it puts us a little closer to confirmation, I guess. I also may have a line on possible plot scenario, but I'm waiting for someone to get back to me on that. I will, of course, let you know what I find out. :)

whiteling
05-26-2006, 05:39 AM
Thanks Shelbyshire for the yummy pics. :k
Also thanks for all the latest news! Vamp sounds interesting indeed... seems like the end of the dry-spell might be on the horizon. :z:


Allow me to propose a little toast in honour of my red-letter day. To the day, three years ago I registered here on KD. Three wonderful years with all of you, my friends. :k

My mathom for today ---


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Drawings/Frodo_watersk_wh-72.jpg

(Oh dear, Frodo is just in the middle of the dry spell! :( )

saile
05-26-2006, 06:50 AM
Yes thanks so much Shelbyshire for bringing the pics here. Incredible contrast in those two pics, Yes? He IS a GOOD actor isn't he. :lol:
And thanks Bunnie for the news of "Vamp". Hmmmmmmmmm.


Allow me to propose a little toast in honour of my red-letter day. To the day, three years ago I registered here on KD. Three wonderful years with all of you, my friends. :k

My mathom for today ---
Oh whiteling how thoughtful of you to bring us such a beautiful gift on your anniversary! Your renderings of Frodo and Elijah are a treasure. :k So glad you like to hang out here.
saile

sneaking
05-26-2006, 06:59 AM
A trivial little mention in the Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2006/05/26/bfcannes26.xml&menuId=564&sSheet=/arts/2006/05/26/ixfilmmain.html)

Apart, that is, from the million-dollar studio deals being inked in the lavish hotels across the street, the multi-million-dollar yachts moored by the harbour, and the sight of Russell Crowe and Elijah Wood walking right towards you along the Croisette.

I just thought it was interesting that he picked Elijah along with Russell Crowe as examples of movie stars (I'm assuming that they weren't actually walking together - although it is possible to read the sentence that way). Of course, it could just be because a lot of the others don't actually walk around Cannes and just get shuttled around by car.

Mariole
05-26-2006, 09:03 AM
Probably whoever wrote this just happened to see Russell Crowe and Elijah Wood and thought it was cool. I would! :)

Happy Anniversary, Whiteling! Thanks for bringing the end of the dry spell here. :k

ceefour
05-26-2006, 09:33 AM
Happy 3rd Anniversary, whiteling!

The traditional gift for a third anniversary is leather, so here's yours.

http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Hobbit/Frodo/Fellow/Backpack.htm

C4

whiteling
05-26-2006, 03:41 PM
Many thanks for the well-wishes, Saile, Mariole and Ceefour. :)


The traditional gift for a third anniversary is leather
Yes, you're right! Thanks for that great link... and next year, on the occasion of my fourth anniversary, I'll get that backpack in silk. Not bad! ;)

Nenya
05-26-2006, 05:33 PM
Hi, everyone - waves madly to the Faculty crew :haha: , just peeping out of lurkdom because I thought you might get a little kick out of this:

From a blog: New York Stories
"Andrea is working on a film. Elijah Wood is in it. Andrea is the costume designer and was looking at vintage t-shirts. She went to a vintage t-shirt guy, told him what she was looking for, and the guy pulled out three vintage 60's t-shirts. One said, "Bilbo's Pub," the other said, "Frodo Lives!" and the other read "Keep on Tolkien."

She looked at the shirts and said, "Um... I can't use these. I guess I have to tell you, Elijah Wood is going to be wearing these."
The t-shirt guy laughed. "Oh. Heh. Yeah, I guess you can't."

You gotta love it! :D

ETA:
Happy third anniversary from me, too, Whiteling. I am so in awe of your talent!
And thanks so much Shelbyshire for those fantastic pics from Day Zero

:k

Alyon
05-27-2006, 11:45 PM
Wow!! Whiteling!! Beautiful work, as always. Congratulations on your anniversary!! :cool:

Nenya--nice to see you in here again...and great story!!

Interesting news bit, Sneaking.

Shelbyshire, thanks for posting those pics!!

In one of the many video clips from Cannes circulating on the web there was one with Vincenzo Natali (spelled right???), Elijah's Director for Paris Je T'aime. He spoke highly of Elijah and said he had a script he was going to/gave to Elijah, wanting to work with Him again. Hey mutual admiration is a good thing, yes?

Thanks for this, Saile!! I love hearing that!!

BunnieBugs
05-28-2006, 04:24 PM
I found an article about Paris, Je T'aime here (http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=features2006&content=jump&jump=review&dept=cannes&nav=RCannes&articleid=VE1117930546), that I really didn't read :p except for the relevant portion about Elijah's segment:

"Cube" helmer Vicenzo Natali's ominously scored and dialogue-free vampire riff "Quartier de la Madeleine" doesn't really jell despite an earnest perf by Elijah Wood but proves an amusing lead-in to Wes Craven's "Pere-Lachaise."

Now I understand why he was asked during the press conference if he felt it was sort of a cousin to his performance in Sin City (a question which he steadfastly refused to answer in the way that it was asked ;) ): he doesn't speak in either one! Our lad is going to become known as a master of silent performances, at least, if nothing else.

sneaking
05-28-2006, 06:06 PM
I found an article about Paris, Je T'aime Our lad is going to become known as a master of silent performances, at least, if nothing else.

I watched a programme about Buster Keaton last week; I just kept thinking, that would be an ideal part for him.

BunnieBugs
05-28-2006, 06:11 PM
I watched a programme about Buster Keaton last week; I just kept thinking, that would be an ideal part for him.Oh, yes! I've often thought that he'd be a brilliant choice to actually play Buster Keaton, if someone decided to make a film about him. :)

saile
05-29-2006, 06:35 AM
I watched a programme about Buster Keaton last week; I just kept thinking, that would be an ideal part for him.Yes of course!
Part of the joy of following............well okay being actively engaged.....in his acting career is that it keeps me on my toes. As has been said here before, just seeing all his films has taken me on quite a journey, mentally as well as physically. Thanks Elijah! and Faculty! :k
saile

whiteling
05-29-2006, 08:19 AM
As has been said here before, just seeing all his films has taken me on quite a journey, mentally as well as physically. Thanks Elijah! and Faculty!
I couldn't agree more, Saile :).

If Hollywood ever decides to make a film about Anthony Perkins, they could hire Elijah for sure:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/Frodo_Bates.jpg



... or, as Bunnie and Sneaking pointed out, he would make a marvellous Buster "The Silent" Keaton:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/Elijah_Keaton.jpg


Ah, I almost can see those films... ;)

tgshaw
05-29-2006, 08:20 AM
Just saw this bit from the NY Post:

Quiche next?
May 29, 2006 5:25 AM EDT
RUSSELL Crowe might be a changed man. The burly actor, known for his love of fighting and drinking, went to Marquee the other night and, to the shock of everyone at the door, "politely approached the bouncers and asked, 'Excuse me, may we come in?' " Crowe was let in with his three friends - a man and two hot women, and he was a perfect gentleman as he sipped white wine. "His pregnant wife [Danielle Spencer] was nowhere in sight," the spy added.
Maybe Russell and Elijah had a little talk while they were walking around Cannes ;) .

On that original "Russell Crowe and Elijah Wood walking right toward you" comment, I don't really care if they were together, or if the reporter picked them as the two "top" stars he saw (although that would be nice ;) ). Maybe it's from being a long-time fan and defending Elijah through the "Kill me now" days, but I'm just thrilled whenever I see his name mentioned as if the reporter assumes that people know who he is! :cool: :cool: :cool: (It used to be unusual for even the reporter to know who he was.) Of course, a lot of the people who recognize the name now are probably like my co-worker who, when I said I owned all of Elijah's movies that were available, mockingly said, "Oh, yeah... How many is that - about two? -- You'd think he'd know there were at least three, wouldn't you :confused: ? He was kinda surprised when I told him it was well over two dozen - and counting. :haha:

BTW, speaking of co-workers, the one I most wanted to see EII saw it as soon as the video/DVD was released and liked it very much. She said the one thing that was kind of jarring was when the surreal elements "popped up," because most of the movie is realistic. She specifically mentioned the sunflower field and "all that laundry," as in "How could one person have that much laundry?" :D I was immune to that having read the book, but I can kind of see her point. Did anyone else who saw the movie book-less have that reaction? I'd previously told her something about the historical thread in the book to explain why her mother might not have liked it ;) , and had said I'd tell her about the change to the grandfather's story after she'd seen the movie (she doesn't plan to read the book). When I did, she agreed the book's take was more thought-provoking but that it would have been hard to show in a movie.

ETA: I do hope Elijah's getting a cut from the DVD rentals/purchases for that movie, as that's probably where it'll make most of its money. I don't know how many copies they had at Best Buy, but I got the last one.

Also ETA: Simulposted with Whiteling :D but :cool: . I think of Elijah's "silent" performances in the same way I do his internally-focused characters: not that he can't play other roles just as well as he does those, but he can play those so much better than anyone else it's no surprise he gets cast in a lot of them. His best directors have realized that and haven't tried to fill the silence with words when his acting makes it unnecessary (even when the character isn't completely mute. ;) ).

whiteling
05-29-2006, 08:37 AM
Hi, Tg! :)


BTW, speaking of co-workers, the one I most wanted to see EII saw it as soon as the video/DVD was released and liked it very much. She said the one thing that was kind of jarring was when the surreal elements "popped up," because most of the movie is realistic. She specifically mentioned the sunflower field and "all that laundry," as in "How could one person have that much laundry?" :D I was immune to that having read the book, but I can kind of see her point. Did anyone else who saw the movie book-less have that reaction?

*raises hand*
My reaction was quite similar. The first sight of this immensely huge sunflower field kind of confused me. Not that it wouldn't have been beautiful, but yes, Tg, your co-worker has a point in saying that this image is jarring for someone who hasn't read the book beforehand. It just seems to appear from nowhere.

Mariole
05-29-2006, 09:27 AM
I adored Buster "The Silent" Keaton manip! Thanks, Whiteling! I will agree, Elijah is hypnotic to watch silent. It's definitely a skill!

I saw EII as a non-book reader (I read the book afterwards). My reaction was different from Whiteling's. The sunflower field didn't throw me at all, or the laundry. Perhaps it's because I come from the Midwest, and as child, I was used to seeing corn stretching to the horizon in every direction. I remember as the car turned into the long drive to the house, thinking only, "How beautiful! No wonder they wanted to film that!" :) I completely missed any unnecessary laundry at all, but then, as farmin' folk, eight kids is not unusual, so I've seen a lot of laundry. :p

I'm a very forgiving viewer; I don't tend to criticize until afterwards unless the movie is very bad. With EII, the emotional punch was so intense (I was actually upset), the last thing I was thinking about was sunflowers. So any criticism in this regard passed me by.

esmeraldabrandybuck
05-30-2006, 04:34 AM
Best Wishes to Blossom for a wonderful birthday. :k :k

http://overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/Blossom06merge.jpg

http://overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/Blossom06b.jpg

Mechtild
05-30-2006, 07:44 AM
Happy Birthday, Blossom!

I just want to thank you, Blossom, for all the enchanting gifs you made for birthday people over the year. If I could make one, I'd give you one right now. I'd make a "winking" one of Frodo from the Farewell Party scene.

You make so many birthdays a special event for us all. Thanks you sharing your talent so generously! :k


~*~


Here's Dom standing in to get a big hug for you from the One Lad:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Elijah%20Wood/ElijahPremiereRotKLAhugsDom.jpg

~ Mechtild

ceefour
05-30-2006, 07:58 AM
Happy Birthday, Blossom!

C4

A biography of Buster Keaton was filmed in 1957 with Donald O'Connor as Keaton. Only three comments are posted on IMDB, but all agree that O'Connor was good, given the poor script and made-up story. Keaton was still alive when I was little, so my memory of him is as an elderly man. But check this picture out--and he was 5'6"!

http://www.busterkeaton.com

(He even has some eyebrow acting going on!)

shireling
05-30-2006, 08:54 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BLOSSOM!!

I would like to echo Mechtild's words about your wonderful gifs which make birthdays here so special. Hope you have a lovely day :)

ETA: If you have any squee left after gazing on this beautiful face, you might like to pop into my LJ!! :D


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/BLOSSOM.jpg

Mechtild
05-30-2006, 09:40 AM
Shireling, nice pic for Blossom!

Whiteling, I am glad you posted your 'Elijah Keaton' manip, perhaps making ceefour link the Buster Keaton site (fascinating biography, there!).


Look at this picture of Buster Keaton in 1920, with Bartine Burkett in "The High Sign":


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/pics%20for%20posts/KeatonBusterwithBartineBurkettinThe.jpg


Provocative.....


~ Mechtild

Mariole
05-30-2006, 09:58 AM
Happy Birthday, Blossom!

Frodo is remembering your last birthday:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/mariole/breegasp.jpg

Have a great one!


Ceefour, I loved that Buston Keaton pic. The eyes! :p So cute. Yes, I can see OTL doing this.

(Blossom cap courtesy of Mechtild. :k)

BunnieBugs
05-30-2006, 11:25 AM
Happy Birthday, Blossom!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah%202/elijah01.jpg

honeyelf
05-30-2006, 03:17 PM
Happy Birthday, Blossom! :k :k :k
Jonathan can't believe you're as old as you say you are!
http://static.flickr.com/48/147184366_ea3af0e747.jpg
honey!

whiteling
05-30-2006, 03:30 PM
Happy Birthday, Blossom! :k
Hope it's a great one! :)

An oldie but goodie:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/AtSundance_reading.jpg


*Gorgeous* pictures, everyone! Honey, your Jonfen pic is too funny... :D


Thanks, Ceefour, for that Buster Keaton link. Very interesting! (Yay, eyebrow acting!)

Shelbyshire
05-30-2006, 09:42 PM
Blossom, we almost missed your party! Peter forgot to tell Elijah this morning so I had to quickly
hand deliver Elijah's invitation. Doesn't Peter look so sorry about the mishap.

Glad we could make it...Happy Birthday!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/rlastshots037.jpg

Mechtild
05-30-2006, 10:20 PM
Shelbyshire, I LOVED that picture! Which Extra did it come from? Or was it from something else?

~ Mechtild

SandCastles
05-30-2006, 10:53 PM
*Sneaks in at the last moment to say...*


Happy Birthday, BLOSSOM!


SandCastles :)

Nenya
05-30-2006, 11:41 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/Birthday-Fireworks.jpg

Sorry to be late, but I just wanted to thank you for all those other birthday mathoms I've enjoyed over the years!
A toast to the mistress of the birthday .gif(t)!!
Frodo's waiting for you at the party with your birthday candle


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/FrodoattheParty.jpg

Elijah's also hoping you'll have a truly wonderful celebration & comes bearing flowers!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/flower1.jpg

All the best!
Nenya

:k

ETA
Man, how I would love to see Elijah do Buster Keaton!

saile
05-31-2006, 06:53 AM
Happy Birthday Blossom.........a tad tardy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/lotr-behind-121.jpg



Lovely ylla has sent me some of your wonderful creations for my very own. Thank you.

saile

Shelbyshire
05-31-2006, 08:18 AM
Shelbyshire, I LOVED that picture! Which Extra did it come from? Or was it from something else?Good morning. Hi, Mechtild! The pic is from the RotK extras. I'm not sure which chapter though and I just got to work this morning so I cannot check the DVD for the name. Perhaps another Faculty member may know which one it's in? If not, I'll check back when I get home.

Lovely :k lovely birthday presents as usual.

Mechtild
05-31-2006, 10:33 AM
Thanks, Shelbyshire! I think I'm going to have to watch the RotK extras again soon! :k

~ Mechtild

shireling
05-31-2006, 02:22 PM
The pic is from the RotK extras. I'm not sure which chapter though and I just got to work this morning so I cannot check the DVD for the name. Perhaps another Faculty member may know which one it's in? If not, I'll check back when I get home.

I can help you there ladies - that pic is from one of my favourite parts of all the dvd extras - and also the most heartbreaking. It was taken just before Elijah did his last scene ever for LOTR - PJ & Elijah are discussing the scene there, then Elijah settles at Frodo's desk for the "There's room for a little more" scene - I'm sure everyone is familiar with what happens next!! I need a weeping smilie - sniff :(

Mechtild
05-31-2006, 02:27 PM
Oh, boy, Shireling, that IS a weeper. Thanks. :k


~ Mechtild

BLOSSOM
05-31-2006, 03:08 PM
I may not have commented recently, but I’ve been here, listening to and enjoying the conversation. I’m still recovering from the shock of ‘Punk’d,’ and The One Shaved Head! :eek:

Thank you one and all for such beautiful, beautiful birthday pictures. :k This is going to sound like an Oscar acceptance speech, but here goes anyway:

Ezzie - Frodo and a cake! Well, I’m trying to cut down on the cake, but I’ll have a double-serving of Frodo, if that’s OK. Thanks. :)

Mechtild - I love that photograph of those two. Thank you. It’s a pleasure to share the gifs, but your own wonderful LJ screen caps and essays keep me happily occupied for hours. :)

Ceefour - Thanks for your birthday greeting, and for posting the Buster Keaton picture. I think EW would fit that role perfectly.

Shireling - Oooh, what a beautiful Frodo. I love how the light falls on his face as he turns to Sam in that scene. Thank you, dear. I will be knocking loudly on the door of your LJ ASAP! :)

Mariole - Well… I… erm… don’t quite know what to say about that pic! Lovely as it is, I thought I had strayed into the Harem. Ah, yes - my last birthday - IIRC, Frodo was under the table when that photo was taken. I have no idea how he got there! :confused: :) Thank you.

Bunnie - That pic is gorgeous! Beautiful in blue, and oh, those eyes! Thanks.

Honey - I’m very fond of Jonathan! Thanks for bringing him to the party!

Whiteling - You chose a favourite of mine. I can’t help but think of Ian McKellen’s comment about how EW reminded him of the statues of the young soldiers of WW1. Elijah looks as though his face has been carved in alabaster. Thank you for posting it. Thanks too for sharing your latest Frodo drawing - the Frodo-waterskin - it’s beautiful. :)

Shelbyshire - That picture is so poignant, and always makes me feel a little sad - though in a nice way. Thank you. In response to Mechtild’s question about this behind-the-scenes interaction between EW and PJ,* I’m going to post the gif version - it’s such a bitter-sweet moment - Elijah preparing to be Frodo for the very last time. (Sob!)

EW preparing for final Frodo shot (http://www.imag.us/x/blossom/Cameras_23.gif) GIF - File size 4MB.

* Mechtild - ROTK EE Disc 4. Filming ‘The Return of the King:’ Cameras in Middle-Earth - Chapter 14. ‘Three Years Later…’ EW’s last shot is at the end of that section.

Sandcastles - Thank you for the birthday wishes.

Nenya - Many thanks for the flowers, balloons, Frodo and Elijah! I’m feeling thoroughly spoiled.

Saile - Party Frolijah - isn’t that a behind-the-scenes pic too? Thank you - it’s lovely. You have some of my creations - you mean music videos? They’re a bit of an obsession, I will admit, but I do enjoy making them. I have several new ones - if you’re interested in seeing them, drop me a PM. Love to Ylla.


Thanks again, Faculty. :k

Blossom dashes off to Shireling’s LJ! :)

Mechtild
05-31-2006, 03:29 PM
Oh, SOB, Blossom!

A million hugs for making that gif. I absolutely love it. :z:


~ Mechtild

Nenya
05-31-2006, 04:39 PM
Oh, Blossom!
Heavens to Murgatroyd!
I am destroyed!!
The look on their faces.........
:(

Shelbyshire
05-31-2006, 05:49 PM
*right, click, save*

Thank you, Blossom for the haunting gif. It's emotional impact is felt more now as time goes by.

One :k for Frodo and one :k for Elijah

ceefour
05-31-2006, 07:22 PM
For what it's worth, I don't watch that particular segment of the ROTK extras. It's such a personal moment between PJ and EW (even with other cast members and the crew present) that I feel like an intruder. Like watching the mourners at a funeral.

C4

Mechtild
05-31-2006, 08:12 PM
For what it's worth, I don't watch that particular segment of the ROTK extras. It's such a personal moment between PJ and EW (even with other cast members and the crew present) that I feel like an intruder. Like watching the mourners at a funeral.
Oh, I don't mind, ceefour, though I admire your compassion and respect your discretion. But I feel as though the filmmakers have invited us to accompany them on the whole journey of the making and releasing of these films, letting us into the process -- professional and personal -- through hours and hours of filmed documentary, as well as masses of audio commentary.

If watching the last takes is like being at a funeral, it is a funeral to which we the fans have been invited as fellow mourners. I think the cast and crew appreciated it that way, too.

Just my take on it. :)

~ Mechtild

Eandme
06-01-2006, 04:51 AM
I loved the gif. Watching it in slow motion made me wonder if I was not perhaps also watching Elijah morph into Frodo. It could be viewed like that no?

BLOSSOM
06-02-2006, 12:27 PM
For what it's worth, I don't watch that particular segment of the ROTK extras. It's such a personal moment between PJ and EW (even with other cast members and the crew present) that I feel like an intruder. Like watching the mourners at a funeral.

I can see what you mean, Ceefour, and echo Mechtild's words of respect for your opinion. That entire sequence seems as though it was very emotional for all involved, especially EW and PJ. But as Mech goes on to point out, the comprehensive behind-the-scenes content on the DVDs by its very nature invites the viewer in to share in the complete experience, and I'm sure that includes the sad/poignant moments as well as the upbeat and joyous ones.

We musn't forget that all the LOTR actors had their own very emotional 'last shot' moments, but Peter Jackson did say that for him, Elijah's was the most difficult.

Eandme - ...like watching Elijah morph into Frodo. I like that. :)

ceefour
06-03-2006, 08:25 AM
Gack! You're making me sound noble or something. :rolleyes: It's not that I don't care to watch the other actors' last days on the set (but the emotion in those isn't as palpable or raw), just the aftermath of EW's last scene.

C4

whiteling
06-03-2006, 10:30 AM
It's not that I don't care to watch the other actors' last days on the set (but the emotion in those isn't as palpable or raw), just the aftermath of EW's last scene.

That's true. I think it is an even more difficult emotional experience for PJ and for us, the audience, to "let go" the actor of beloved Frodo, who sailed into the West, never to return, than to say Good-bye to all the others. With him, it's a twofold loss. :(

----------

I just discovered that "Hooligans" is scheduled on German TV! Wow, that was quick.
For anyone in the German-speaking areas or with satellite:
"Hooligans" on Monday, 5th June, 22.00, ProSieben (FreeTV premiere)

honeyelf
06-03-2006, 11:06 AM
I just discovered that "Hooligans" is scheduled on German TV! Wow, that was quick.

I don't expect to ever see Hooligans on American TV; way too much swearing, and such swear words too! :eek: Is German TV a lot laxer about that kind of language? Do they eliminate the swearing in the subtitles, or do they dub english-language films? I'm very curious.

honey!

whiteling
06-03-2006, 11:27 AM
Is German TV a lot laxer about that kind of language? Do they eliminate the swearing in the subtitles, or do they dub english-language films? I'm very curious.
Honey, we rarely get to see a film in its original version - I dunno, many of my fellow countrymen consider dubbing an artform or something... :rolleyes: I reckon with a film like Hooligans they will leave some of the swearing in the dialogue, but the overall swearing-rate will certainly be shortened compared to the original. German TV airs films that go beyond the PG-13 after 10 pm, and there is sometimes pretty disturbing stuff, I can tell you!
Interesting that the private TV channel ProSieben shows Hooligans now that the Football world championship is about to begin... Hooliganism is a very sensitive topic here these days. Heavy security measures are tremendously important, as not only German Hooligans but many Hooligans from neighbour countries are expected. :(

honeyelf
06-03-2006, 11:53 AM
Interesting that the private TV channel ProSieben shows Hooligans now that the Football world championship is about to begin... Hooliganism is a very sensitive topic here these days. Heavy security measures are tremendously important, as not only German Hooligans but many Hooligans from neighbour countries are expected. :(

:eek: An odd choice of timing! Let's just hope that the footie fans watch the film all the way through before they go off to the stadium! :z:

Thanks for your answer, Whiteling!

honey!

whiteling
06-03-2006, 01:10 PM
:eek: An odd choice of timing! Let's just hope that the footie fans watch the film all the way through before they go off to the stadium! :z:

Amen. And let's hope they "get" it in the right way. :z:

[slightly offtopic]Offhand, I didn't find a significant article on Hooliganism here, but I stumbled upon a rather funny impression of the mood here by Gayle Tufts. She is an American comedian who lives here for several years now. In the last paragraph she writes "On the World Cup" - not very exaggerated. ;) If you're interested go here (http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,419486,00.html).
[/slightly offtopic]

Achila
06-03-2006, 01:18 PM
Or fall in love. The best way to learn German is to fall in love with a German.

Um...ja ;) :lol: Thanks for the link, Whiteling, lots of funny stuff there!

whiteling
06-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Um...ja ;) :lol: Thanks for the link, Whiteling, lots of funny stuff there!
Gern geschehen, Achila! :D ;)

whiteling
06-05-2006, 04:48 AM
Happy Birthday, Honeyelf!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/hb.gif

Hope you're having a most wonderful day!


In the light of our recent discussion about Elijah's qualities as a silent film actor and in view of his vampire encounter in Paris je t'aime (in which he actually utters not one word), I composed a "descriptive" manip for Honeyelf's birthday:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/nosferatu_elijah.jpg

(Background picture taken from the silent movie Nosferatu, 1922)

ceefour
06-05-2006, 07:24 AM
Happy Birthday, Honeyelf!

C4

Whiteling, :lol: !

Achila
06-05-2006, 08:47 AM
Happy Birthday, Honeyelf! And I hope you will forgive me, Blossom -- I missed your birthday last week :(

Here's some friends of ours, to wish you both well!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/illum1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/hooligans05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/ElijahWood--Flipper-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/bumblebee01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/North-177.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/03-12-200517-03500-crop.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/ashwednesday15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/fotr_frodo_lorien_26.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/twopussycats.jpg
(hey, how'd HE get in here???)

Hope it's a great day!

Mechtild
06-05-2006, 09:51 AM
It's your birthday?????
Happy Birthday, HONEY!!! :k

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Elijah%20Wood/ElijahsweaterComehitherpeek.jpg

~ Mechtild

Alyon
06-05-2006, 11:58 AM
Happy Birthday HoneyElf!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/alyonir/OhIdontknow.jpg

:k

And very Sheepish for missing yours, Blossom!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/alyonir/Gear--bandw.jpg

saile
06-05-2006, 02:45 PM
Happy Birthday HONEYELF

Dance up a storm......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/fotr0127.jpg

saile

tgshaw
06-05-2006, 02:49 PM
Happy Birthday, Honey! And I'm another one sorry to have missed yours, Blossom. Afraid I'm just not up to being very talkative lately. No pretty pictures to share, either... but I have gotten Frodo out of Shelob's Lair, new stuff starting on this page:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Shelob/id54.htm

sneaking
06-05-2006, 03:38 PM
Sort of vaguely relevant, from a Liev Schrieber interview at Chud (I not sure that site is entirely PG13 so I won't link there. The interview is about the Omen mainly):


Q: The DVD of Everything is Illuminated is bare bones. Are there plans for a new edition?

Schreiber: I wish that there were, but Warner Independent felt that that's all they were prepared to release which was a little bit of a bummer. Thanks for asking, though.


I think we knew that anyway but still a bit of a :( reminder.

shireling
06-05-2006, 04:14 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY HONEYELF :)

TOL looks a little wistful here - I think he's heard it's your birthday & wonders what happened to his invite :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/Birthdays%20and%20Spams/navytop4.jpg

Have a lovely day :k

BunnieBugs
06-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Happy Birthday, Honeyelf!

Unfortunately, this lovely, sepia-toned shot has never appeared in larger form, but it is nevertheless a true gem. Like you. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/23701742.jpg

:k

Shelbyshire
06-05-2006, 05:53 PM
Hi, HoneyElf!

H a p p y B i r t h d a y!!

I've been in a bit of a picture slump lately, can't decide what to post or not. So, Shelby baked up some cookies and made mint chocolate chip shakes for everyone to enjoy while gazing at your gorgeous birthday presents!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/PICT1941.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/PICT1934.jpg

BLOSSOM
06-05-2006, 06:09 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HONEY!

I prepared your birthday gif, but it seems imagemagician is not responding at the moment - or else it's my laptop - so here's a Frodo collage until I can deliver the goods.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Frodo%20collages/WoodedRoad1.jpg

Hope you're having a lovely day! :k

Thanks for the belated birthday wishes, Achila, Alyon and Tg. :)

Mechtild
06-05-2006, 08:59 PM
Golly, that's gorgeous, Blossom. I am so glad it was Honey's birthday! :D

~ Mechtild

(P.S. That's a super screencap, Saile!)

SandCastles
06-05-2006, 11:02 PM
*Sneaks in even more breathlessly than last time. :eek: *


Happy Birthday, Honeyelf!


SandCastles :)


ETA: Oops, it was still your birthday when I started typing. :o

honeyelf
06-06-2006, 02:47 AM
Thanks for all the lovely birthday wishes!

Whiteling, loved your picture! :D It's a shame about Ms. Olga Kurylenko's dowager's homp. It's quite evident in that picture! ...wait a minute...What's that?...Oh! :o That's Nosferatu! :o

CeeFour, thank you for your birthday greeting! It was lovely to meet you in New York last month!

Achila! :eek: What a crew you brought! And each as handsome as the last! Nice to see Alex came along too!

Mechtild, I can't resist a man in a sweater, even if it is June!

Alyon, thank you for your colorful salutation, and that charming little fellow accompanying it!

Saile, I think you'll have to help me keep Mr. Frodo Baggins occupied; he looks full of energy!

TG, glad to hear you've guided Frodo out Shelob's cave at last. I'm sorry to hear you are felling a little under at the moment. I'll be keeping you in my prayers.

Sneaking, I don't know what Warner Independent was thinking, I really don't. Did Warner Independent really need to put all it's eggs in the Goodnight and Good Luck basket? Couldn't it have spared a kindness for the plainer child? Am I mixing metaphors? And what plainer child? Certainly not darling Jonfen! :rolleyes:

Shireling, just have that lovely little thing in your post send me his address, and I'll make sure to include him in next year's celebration! ;)

Bunnie, that is a little jewel indeed; I guess good things really do come in small packages. I've been thinking of you; hope all is well.

Shelbyshire, the best kind of cookies and milkshakes - utterly devoid of calories and saturated fats! :D

Blossom, beautiful collage! Who needs whiz bang special effects anyway? ;)

Sandcastles, the birthday may be over, but the party continues! You're only as late as you feel. Or somehting like that. :confused:

honey!

Nenya
06-06-2006, 05:53 AM
This little Fellow had way too much fun at your birthday party last night, and is nursing a sore head this morning!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/ffotrexdragon11.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/FrododancingattheGreenDragon.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/frodo_bilbo_party_tn.jpg

And I had to include this one just to show how mortified Frodo is to have missed your birthday - who could resist his sincere apologies!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/frodo_elrond_farewell_tn.jpg

Sorry to be late in wishing you a happy birthday - Elijah wanted to be in on the celebration, too!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/12488.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/Meribel/ECCS4041.jpg

Hope you had a good one! :k

Nenya

Mariole
06-06-2006, 12:49 PM
Whoops, I missed it. Happy Birthday, Honeyelf! :k

I love all the gorgeous images. Shelbyshire, my mouth is still watering!

ceefour
06-07-2006, 01:01 PM
If you're still lurking, chattegrise, Happy Birthday!

C4

esmeraldabrandybuck
06-07-2006, 01:05 PM
Oops! I missed it too! :o Happy belated birthday, honey! :k

http://overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/honeyelf06B.jpg

Shelbs! Your cookies and slurpies were a great idea. :D

.

BLOSSOM
06-07-2006, 05:38 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHATTEGRISE! :)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Elijah/EJW1.jpg

Shelbyshire
06-07-2006, 06:32 PM
Another "silent" performance...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Elijah%20Wood/witness02.jpg

*needs a bigger, better picture than this*

ETA: Bunnie added some really good pictures of Elijah in The Witness over at Hugs Haven. Check them out! :) Thanks, Bunnie!!

wood
06-08-2006, 01:10 AM
hi all !!! sneaking in here just to see what!!!! I MISSED SO MANY BIRTHDAYS :( :( :( :(


HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLOSSOM, HONEYELF ,,CHATTERGRIS and verybody else that i missed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



ÁND HAPPY ANNIVERSERY MY DEAR WHITELING!!!!!!


LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

tgshaw
06-08-2006, 08:07 AM
Just here to try to make up for all the missed birthdays :o .

IMHO, when it comes to sheer beauty, it's hard to beat a reflective Casey :) .


http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/312fd2e0.jpg


http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/3075c760.jpg


More here (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/id47.htm) (and I say the same thing about Casey on that page :p ).

Mechtild
06-08-2006, 08:46 AM
Hi, wood!!!! :k

tg, that top Casey shot is just exquisite. Like a painting. Such expressiveness; perhaps enhanced by the blocking of the lower part of his face by his hands holding the camera.

Thanks for posting it!

~ Mechtild

tgshaw
06-08-2006, 03:35 PM
Thanks, Mechtild. That was one picture that, when I was tweaking it, I knew the worst thing I could do would be to go too far. I backed up more than once on some of the settings. -- And I agree on the hands holding the camera. Not only focuses the (movie) camera even more on his eyes, but the hand/finger positions are a piece of artwork in themselves. Does anyone know when Elijah got involved in photography? He sure seems to know how to hold a camera :) .

In my experience, anyway, The Faculty is an odd movie to screencap. In most of the action sequences, the picture quality isn't too great. But most of the close-ups are wonderful. The LotR movies are the only other ones I can think of where I could keep a pic that large and still retain the quality. (Difference in the LotR movies is that most of the action scenes are great quality, too :) .)

That may be part of the reason that over half of my "Everybody Else" pages in the Paint Shop section are of Casey. That screencap is just one frame of a gorgeous sequence, and that's only one of the close-up shots. (Either I haven't been paying attention :p or no one else gets as many close-up shots in that movie as Elijah.)

Of course, the "Frodo" pages beat "Everybody Else" put together. :)

chattegrise
06-09-2006, 12:00 AM
Aww, thanks you, Ceefour, Blossom and Wood! Ya'll are very kind!

(still lurking)

chattegrise

tgshaw
06-10-2006, 11:07 AM
Good to see you're still around Chattegrise :) !

Well, one more thing to worry about - Just found out yesterday that the program I've been using to build my websites for 5+ years is being discontinued at the end of this month. Could still keep using it, of course, but because it's available only by download, a file corruption or a switch to a new computer would be the end of it. The smart thing would be to start switching all the [thousands of :( ] pages to a new program, but I haven't found one I like nearly as well. So, with this added to everything else going on in RL, what am I doing? - Working on Photo Shop Frodo pics, of course! :rolleyes: There's a page here (http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/id62.htm) using frames from the end of Shelob's lair.

SandCastles
06-11-2006, 12:56 AM
*props eyelids open just a little longer*


Happy Birthday, wood!


SandCastles :)


*isn't bringing up the rear on the birthday wishes for once :p *

ceefour
06-11-2006, 07:09 AM
Happy Birthday, wood!

C4

Achila
06-11-2006, 07:21 AM
Happy Birthday, Wood!

Mikey?? Oh, Mikey??!! Where the heck is that boy? Get out here!




Phew...here he comes -- with the champagne...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/CHAIN_OF_FOOLS-182.jpg


Enjoy, sweetie!

Eandme
06-11-2006, 09:38 AM
Happy Birthday dear Wood!! :k


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a90/RAlmaviva/more%20Elijah/Punkd19.jpg

BLOSSOM
06-11-2006, 10:53 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WOOD!

Here's a triple dose of Frolijah to help you celebrate.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Frodo%20collages/Frolijah.jpg

Hope you're having a lovely day! :) :k

Tg - I very much enjoyed browsing through your Photo Shop Frodo images. Lovely! Thanks. :)

Shelbyshire
06-11-2006, 01:52 PM
:) Happy Birthday wood! :)

I'm so sorry I have no picture present to offer. I'm at someone else's computer because mine is down and out at the moment. :(

tgshaw
06-11-2006, 04:12 PM
Happy Birthday, Wood!

And here's the other Mikey, trying hard not to be late for the celebration!

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/14fd0980.jpg


ETA: Have noticed google ads for the Green Street Hooligans DVD on our pages lately. Figured it was someone selling them on Ebay, but checked and was happily surprised to find it's actually Warner advertising it.

honeyelf
06-12-2006, 02:31 AM
Happy Birthday(s) Chattergrise :k :k :k and Wood :k :k :k !

Sorry so late. Huck and I made the alarming discovery that we'd nearly burnt all the candles last week. (He informs me that I may be getting too old for candles on my birthday cake; says he was nearly "prostrated by the heat and smoke!" :o )
http://static.flickr.com/56/165526722_ee38eaffa1_o.jpg
But he's come up with some candles now. Wonder where?...

HUCK! :eek:
http://static.flickr.com/31/165526724_d00844fc0a_o.jpg

Count your fingers and lock up your hearts, ladies! Nothing's safe with that little scamp around! :rolleyes:

*****
Sorta mostly off topic stuff, but connected to the topic at hand:

We've been enjoying a DVD we borrowed from NetFlix. The Work of Director Michal Gondry contains several music videos and a few short films. Mr. Gondry is an insane genius! His videos don't include the ubiquitous lingerie-clad chicks in cages; they're far too clever for that. They're by turns dis-orienting, strange, and astonishing.

But watching them, and Mr. Gondry's comments, I was struck with just exactly how much of himself he put into Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. For example, Mr. Gondry relates a painfully embarrassing moment when his frustrated grandmother flipped his un-made mattress (he'd refused to make his bed on a family vacation) and unexpectedly revealed his stash of "dirty" drawings before the entire extended family! Joel's drawings from ESOTSM are actually the artwork of Mr. Gondry. There are enough similarities that one begins to wonder if Mr. Gondry ever stole any panties!

It's a fun watch. The DVD is two-sided (the title of the commentaries on each side is "I've Been Twelve Forever", with sides A and B subtitled respectively: "The Early Years Ages 12 to 12" and "The Later Years Ages 12 to 12. :D ) There's some great music on it (White Stripes, Beck) and some odd music (Bjork on whom my husband developed an instant crush!), and some even odder stuff. The videos are a blast to watch just for the pleasure of trying to figure out how Mr. Gondry accomplishes his mostly low-tech effects. One video involves twenty-some odd identical drum kits, for example.

Anywho, blathering again.

Quiet around here lately. I look forward to the discussion the arrival of GSH on DVD will undoubtedly elicit.

honey!

whiteling
06-12-2006, 04:56 AM
Happy belated Birthday, dear Wood! :k
Hope you had a wonderful day!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Elijah_06_06_2.jpg

Elijah and I look a little wistful to be so late...
And a happy belated birthday, Chattegrise! :)


Honey, loved your Huck pictures and your report on the Gondry DVD :D.
Oh, and apropos GSH - one week ago, it aired here on TV. I'm still puzzling why they had cut it. At least 5 minutes were gone! And no, not the fighting scenes. The blood and gore stuff was still in. No, they cut scenes like Matt's and Pete's talk on Pete teaching history (for example). Huh? :confused:

Mechtild
06-12-2006, 07:49 AM
WOOD!


It was your birthday? So THAT's who EW brought in to the cinema with him after I saw him buying these tickets...!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Elijah%20Wood/moviesboxoffice2004.jpg



:k


~ Mechtild

Skater girl
06-12-2006, 10:39 AM
Happy belated Birthday Wood. We haven't seen you around for while. Hope everything is OK.

Oh, and apropos GSH - one week ago, it aired here on TV. I'm still puzzling why they had cut it. At least 5 minutes were gone! And no, not the fighting scenes. The blood and gore stuff was still in. No, they cut scenes like Matt's and Pete's talk on Pete teaching history (for example). Huh? :confused:

Did they by any chance cut out all the bits that associated the hooligans with what one could possibly call 'normal' people. Is it perhaps that in Germany the people who decide what gets shown and what gets censored want to perpetuate the idea that hooligans are actually the dregs of society, as opposed to normal, educated folk behaving seemingly out of character. I suppose it does start to get a bit scary when it could be your own calm, well spoken neighbour that you've shared dinner parties with who turns out to have a Jeckyll and Hyde personality, and is capable of such aggression and violence. Much better to be able to place the blame on unemployed yobs from the worst council estates.

Achila
06-12-2006, 12:18 PM
I'm sort of surprised they showed it at all now, considering how concerned they are about violence during the World Cup. But maybe the cuts were just for time and that scene was determined to be unnecessary?

txtac
06-12-2006, 02:39 PM
Interesting coincedince, or just timely. There is a full page ad in the Parade section of Sunday's newspaper "Hot Deals for Dad" Buy any 2 of these DVD's and get $5 back by mail. The pictures of the five DVDs shown are GREEN STREET HOOLIGANS, kiss kiss bang bang, FIREWALL, 16BLOCKS and SYRIANA. Available 6.13.06 It's kind've nice to know that Warner Bros. has chosen GSH to be one of their choices for Father's Day this year. Lest we forget, the region 1 DVD of GSH is out tommorrow if you want to buy a legit copy.


Anyone interested in a book "Church of Elijah...?" printed in Moscow 2002.
It's written in English and has some good color pics of Elijah iconography.
I found it over the weekend at the library book sale.
At least we now know what Elijah will look like when he's about 80... :z: :lol: :haha:
Seriously. I couldn't resist a book titled "Church of Elijah the Prophet in Yaroslavl." It is part of a series "Treasures of Medieval Russian Art." I paid a buck for it and it's in excellent shape. Good color pictures of Elijah iconography for those of you Elijah iconologists out there. If anyone is interested you can pm me, or I can donate it to the Faculty library so that everyone can see it.

whiteling
06-13-2006, 03:50 AM
Did they by any chance cut out all the bits that associated the hooligans with what one could possibly call 'normal' people. Is it perhaps that in Germany the people who decide what gets shown and what gets censored want to perpetuate the idea that hooligans are actually the dregs of society, as opposed to normal, educated folk behaving seemingly out of character.


But maybe the cuts were just for time and that scene was determined to be unnecessary?

Maybe both of you are right to a certain extent. It really seems they cut out the bits that show "your friendly hooligan neighbour", but it may equally have been a question of running time. The result of it was anyway that hubby was most surprised when I told him about Pete being a teacher. He couldn't believe it.

ceefour
06-14-2006, 05:13 PM
This discussion is just starting over at TORN. A poster named Lord Gwaihir wrote:There is much implied heroism in Elijah's Frodo character (obviously the task he undertakes requires the heart of a hero.) However, out of the 12 hours of EE LOTR, does anyone else feel that there is about an hour of Elijah making THAT face? I know you know the one I'm talking about. And while Sean's Sam definitely brings me into the film in a very emotional way, nothing about Elijah's Frodo really does that for me in the same way. I realize this is not really Elijah's fault or anyone's fault necessarily. But Frodo as a movie character is definitely not in the top ten (movie character perormances) for me.In response, weaver has posted a link to tg's site and written this:Here's a link to Film Frodo's expressions on one page. This will give us all something to talk about.

I don't have a lot of time to post right now, but I'm in the camp of liking what Elijah Wood brought to the role. With luck, I can add a few more comments later as to why.

In the meantime, here's the link, and now I'll just wait around until Hob shows up with an eloquent, heartfelt defense of Mr. Frodo on Film...Tg's site must be the gold standard in the defense of EW's Frodo, still, after almost five years.

C4

Mariole
06-14-2006, 09:40 PM
However, out of the 12 hours of EE LOTR, does anyone else feel that there is about an hour of Elijah making THAT face?
Oh, good grief! :p What I can report from my various capping for icons or other reasons, is that Elijah's face appears more expressive. I think that if Lord Gwaihir was being perfectly fair, he'd find 2 hours of Viggo making "that face" or Orlando making "that face" etc. etc. I think somehow people got on this One Expression kick and use it as a convenient shorthand as to why they didn't like the character (or Elijah's enactment of it).

Or (my own wild theory) I think people might be distracted by one facial part (such as the eyes) and "forget" to see the entire rest of the face. I really think this must be some sort of psychological phenomenon or something. EW does have rather exaggerated features. If they get "stuck" on the eyes or lips or whatever, they might be literally unable to see anything else in the face. This is the only way I can figure so many people have this One Expression idea going; EW has as many expressions as anyone else, if not more so.

So, any takers for my wild theory?

On another topic, that's so wild about the GSH cuts. Interesting!

Linwë
06-14-2006, 10:03 PM
I got my DVD of Green Street Hooligans in the mail today from Amazon! Woo-hoo! :D Am trying to get my husband to watch it with me, so we may not see it until Friday night. Greatly looking forward to it.

tgshaw
06-15-2006, 01:49 PM
Nice to hear about the Father's Day marketing, txtac. I've seen a few ways that Warner seems to be publicising the DVD.

Oh, good grief!
Comment on that sentiment alone... :rolleyes: Ye, Valar! Give it up! I've almost gotten over AATF, and I certainly don't complain about it on message boards anymore!

I think that if Lord Gwaihir was being perfectly fair, he'd find 2 hours of Viggo making "that face" or Orlando making "that face" etc. etc.
One response might be "What face?" :p Legolas is supposed to be like that, so I consider Orlando's lack of expression to be good acting.

And y'know, regarding Frolijah's "One expression," when people say "you know the one I mean," I'm not altogether sure I do. :confused:

I think somehow people got on this One Expression kick and use it as a convenient shorthand as to why they didn't like the character (or Elijah's enactment of it).
Or a convenient excuse so they don't have to think about it any further.

Or (my own wild theory) I think people might be distracted by one facial part (such as the eyes) and "forget" to see the entire rest of the face. I really think this must be some sort of psychological phenomenon or something.
I think that's part of it. Possibly along with the fact that EJW has realistic expression of emotion, which a lot of people aren't used to seeing onscreen.

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But I believe the etiology for the "One Expression" phenotype (OEP) is multi-factorial. It would take a massive psychological study to work this out, because you'd have to recruit large enough cohorts of cases and controls (people like us ;) ), and it would take a vast number of cases to be able to account for various root causes. A micro-expression expert from UCSF would probably have to be brought in to record responses and determine when subjects were telling the truth.

One approach that could make the study feasible would be combining it with research into the association between OEP and the "Huh, weird horse" syndrome (HWHS). It has been hypothesized that the OEP and the HWHS are linked, and if evidence-based proof could be found for this, future research into both disorders could be much more targeted and highly cost effective. Anecdotal reports seem to indicate, however, that only a subset of OEP sufferers also manifest the more systemic HWHS, leaving the relationship between the two open to question.

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It does seem, though, that the LotR stage production is giving more evidence that the basic underlying problem is... Frodo! Actors playing Gollum and Galadriel and... someone else... :confused: were nominated for awards. Frodo? Nada - although by all reports he does a wonderful job.

When it comes to it, Frodo is just not an externally exciting character. Many people who like externally exciting characters don't even like Frodo much in the book. And when you try to put him on-screen or on-stage you compound the problem (for people for whom it is a problem). If most of the book wasn't based on Frodo's own account of his journey, we'd know next to nothing about what he felt or experienced; maybe a few glimpses from Sam, who got to know him well enough to "read" him - sometimes. But Frodo's quite proficient at keeping his emotions inside. An example is his short visit with Aragorn to "the heart of Elvendom on earth." The narrative is eloquent, and Frodo's emotions are almost overwhelming. But someone physically observing the event would have seen or heard nothing that indicated what he was feeling. Even his humor is deadpan, FES.

That's the very reason I was so happy when Elijah was cast in the role for the movies, because that's exactly the kind of character he can play like no other actor can. And he did. But Frodo is still that kind of character; if you make him into someone who's freely open with his emotions, IMVHO you turn him into someone he isn't. For some people, it seems to take open emotion like Sam's (in either the book or the movies) to draw them in emotionally. I think Lord Gwaihir's comments are a perfect description of this:
And while Sean's Sam definitely brings me into the film in a very emotional way, nothing about Elijah's Frodo really does that for me in the same way. I realize this is not really Elijah's fault or anyone's fault necessarily. But Frodo as a movie character is definitely not in the top ten (movie character perormances) for me.
Frodo was not meant to be a movie character. I've said before (and I'm sure I'll say again :p ) that he's the most complex fictional character ever created, and I'll throw in that he's probably the most difficult one to portray with any kind of authenticity. Hamlet's a cinch next to Frodo. Whether Frodo should have ever been put on-screen is an arguable question. But when the decision was made to do so, the question of whether Elijah Wood was the best choice to portray him is a cut-and-dried -- Yes!

honeyelf
06-15-2006, 03:13 PM
Well said, TG! I'd give you a little green boxy for that post, but apparently I've given you too many already! :k

I propose mass hynosis. It could be cleverly done in the trailers before new "guy movies." We'd just hynotically excise the phrase "former child actor" from the minds of movie goers. While we're at it, we'll have done with "one expression" too!

honey!

Mariole
06-15-2006, 07:33 PM
*volunteers for Tg's study* :D I just loved that! Thanks, Trudy! :k

I do believe that "Frodo" is a problem for the actor. The nominated actors are Brent Carver (Gandalf), Michael Therriault (Gollum) and Peter Howe (Sam). I saw Peter van Gestel as Sam. I thought Michael Therriault was excellent--the best Gollum by far, including the movies (all of them) and the BBC broadcast, perhaps because he had to be more human (hobbitlike), and therefore more real. I was not very impressed with Brent Carver, so I'm a bit pouty on James Loye's behalf. My whole post on the noms for the musical is here:

http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=320146&postcount=129

Legolas is supposed to be like that, so I consider Orlando's lack of expression to be good acting.
Exactly! :rolleyes:

wood
06-16-2006, 02:31 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY WHITELING !!!!!!!

HOPE YOU WILL HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!! :k :k :k :k

And thank you all for the pics on my my birthday!! :k :k

Yes Skatergirl everyting is ok !!! :k

LOVE YOU ALL WOOD

Eandme
06-16-2006, 05:18 AM
Happy Birthday indeed, dear Whiteling!! :D


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a90/RAlmaviva/Jen.jpg

You didn't get a pic of Elijah, instead you got ...that's right! Little old meee! ;)

ceefour
06-16-2006, 07:52 AM
Happy Birthday, whiteling!

C4

P.S. Eandme, it's nice to put a face with a name. :cool:

Mechtild
06-16-2006, 08:30 AM
(Thanks, Eandme, for the reminder! :) )


Happy Birthday, Whiteling!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Elijah%20Wood/Whiteling-Elijah_August_05_72.jpg

-- Still one of the best pictures of EW yet. Awwww, look at that face! Now, don't disappoint him, Whiteling.

*nudges Whiteling in for the smooch*


~*~ :k ~*~


-- Mechtild

Achila
06-16-2006, 09:54 AM
Alle Gutes zum Geburtstag, Whiteling!

And here's one of my favorites, of yours:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/wearenotalone.jpg

Hope your day is wonderful!

BLOSSOM
06-16-2006, 02:30 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WHITELING!

I'm still unable to access imagemagician - it seems to have disappeared off the radar completley! :confused: - so no gifs at the moment...

But... It appears that Elijah and his hobbit buddies have had enough of the red carpet formalities:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/Whiteling1.jpg

Of course I couldn't possibly allow Frodo to miss out on the celebrations! :)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/Whiteling2.jpg

Have a lovely day! :k

Waves to Wood! :)

shireling
06-16-2006, 05:29 PM
Someone is waiting to take a pic of the famous WHITELING!! (He's seen her wonderful works of art).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/Birthdays%20and%20Spams/whitelingbday.jpg

I know I've only just made it by the skin of my teeth but HAPPY BIRTHDAY WHITELING ~ I hope you've had a lovely day :)

Every time I catch sight of your amazing Frodo waterskin pic, both here & on LJ, I remind myself to comment but somehow never got round to it - so I'm making up for that now. It really is a masterpiece!! Also, I'd never seen the one posted by Achila before - absolutely amazing :)

And BLOSSOM ~ that framed Frodo pic is to die for :)

honeyelf
06-16-2006, 06:33 PM
Happy Birthday, Whiteling! :k :k :k

Where's the Birthday-girl?

http://static.flickr.com/56/147175367_a7b51fcf09_o.jpg

I also neglected to mention how much I liked your recent Frodo drawing. I especially enjoyed the gestural quality of the line that describes Frodo's rather fine profile.

honey!

Shelbyshire
06-16-2006, 06:56 PM
The hobbits stare in disbelief as Shelbyshire tops the hill and runs down towards them frantically waving and yelling, "Wait, wait. It's still the 16th here. I still have time." Their second thought...a birthday cake with candles lite?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/001r41z8.jpg

HAPPY BIRTHDAY WHITELING!

SandCastles
06-16-2006, 10:07 PM
*makes her by now traditional last minute sneak-in*


Happy Birthday, Whiteling!


SandCastles :)

whiteling
06-17-2006, 04:25 AM
Dear Faculty,
thank you all SO much for your wishes and the gorgeous pics :k

Wood, dear, thanks for your wishes. One year ago we met up here for our first European Faculty moot - what fun it was!! :k

Eandme, that was a clever present ;). Okay, I know what E looks like, I know what me looks like --- but what looks and like? :D :k

Ceefour, thank you! :k

Mechtild, thank you! You're right - who could resist this charming fellow?! Thank goodness the drawing has tons of protective coating all over it, and the smooching has left no marks :D (Or did I get something wrong there?) :k

Achila, vielen Dank für die guten Wünsche! :)
Yeah, "We are not alone" is very dear to me, too. :k

Blossom, thank you so much - the Hobbit boys stayed till the end of the party. I reckon they will have slightly sore heads today. :p - Framed "gettoftheroad" Frodo is exceedingly beautiful! :k


(Part 2 follows in a new post, since I was told I had to many smilies... I can't help it, I AM in a kissing mood today)

whiteling
06-17-2006, 04:28 AM
Shireling, thank you! He can take my picture any time - if he ever gets to *see* me really (I'm far too shy as to stand in first row of fangirl crowds... ask Eandme :p). And thank you for your kind comments. Sharing my drawings with you all is such a pleasure. :k

Honey, thanks for that glorious picture (mmhhmm!) and your kind comment! :) :k

Shelbyshire, thank you! What a wonderful Hobbit pic. Gorgeous colours, like a painting! :k

SandCastles, thank you! I like traditions ;). :k


Phew!
(An Oscar acceptance speech is nothing compared to this! :D) I hope I didn't miss anyone. Again, thank you, my dears!!
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Tg - just wanted to say how much I adored your post about OEP and HWHS. :) Brilliant.
I still find it unfair to blame Elijah for his OE ("One Expression"). I mean, other (successful) characters have nothing but this, no?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/martijn-southpark.jpg

Mariole
06-17-2006, 10:11 AM
I also enjoyed all your birthday gifts, Whiteling! Blossom, that caption was too funny. And Eandme, how lovely to see your beaming face! :k

I still find it unfair to blame Elijah for his OE ("One Expression"). I mean, other (successful) characters have nothing but this, no?
And another thumb's up for me. I adored Elijah's performance in FOTR, and was shocked that my friend who follows the Oscars wasn't equally knocked out. She thought it was "one note" (not so much the acting, but the character). I was boggled then and I am now. I really enjoy his performance. Frodo, more than any other character, brought me in to the LOTR movies. I am so grateful for that.

tgshaw
06-17-2006, 04:27 PM
These three can't believe they not only missed Whiteling's birthday (like me :o ) but Shelbyshire's cake!

http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/110844f0.jpg

Hope you had a wonderful day :k !

(But how did Elijah get into South Park? :confused: ;)

tgshaw
06-18-2006, 09:43 PM
I've had my nose buried in site updates most of the weekend (probably because there were so many other things I should have been doing :rolleyes: ). Links to all the new stuff are on the What's New ( http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/) page. The "Boring Old Frodo" essay is basically a rehash of what I said here about Frodo in regard to the one expression topic, so you might not need to read that - but the discussion also prompted a bunch of additions to the One Expression page, which is up to about 175 pics now (I keep losing my place when I try to count, but it's something like that). Also a few things from The Witness, which I just found my VCD of. :rolleyes:

And I haven't even seen GSH yet! :o

Achila
06-20-2006, 06:51 AM
I guess all of you have already heard that Elijah cancelled his appearance at ELF....sigh.... :(

Mechtild
06-20-2006, 07:51 AM
No. ;) Any Reason given? :confused:

Achila
06-20-2006, 07:55 AM
All Creation said was that they'd heard from his management and that he'll be working and had to cancel.

Our collective guesses are that he'll be filming Vamp. However...it seems a weekend off wouldn't be TOO much to ask for, right?

ceefour
06-20-2006, 11:29 AM
*C4 staggers into the Faculty Lounge, clutching a nearly empty bottle of sparkling cider. She's just heard the news of EW's ELF cancellation from Pelagia. C4's seen too many musicals in her fifty years and starts to warble...*

"One Lad for my dreams,
One hobbit in Secaucus,
This promise of Secaucus,
This nearly was mine."

*Hiccup. The disappointment grows...*

"I'm gonna wash that Lad right out of my hair,
And send him on his way."

*C4 slowly realizes that at least EW is making another movie; that's why he won't be there. And that may be an encouraging thought. She goes off to make a pot of decaf and sober up. Sigh.*

tgshaw
06-20-2006, 12:03 PM
She goes off to make a pot of decaf and sober up. Sigh.

Decaf? :confused: To sober up? :confused: ;)

Ah, I see - from sparkling cider :D Yeah, that would work. :D

:k ...to all those suffering this disappointment.

sneaking
06-20-2006, 02:15 PM
Unfortunately, if he will be working on a movie (and especially an indie movie), a weekend off is too much to ask. The producers just wouldn't let him do it and he certainly wouldn't have time to do it in his non-working time (e.g he might not even get one day off a week). He doesn't have much control if their schedules slip (if this is what has happened).

Which doesn't help people feeling annoyed or disappointed or out of pocket (they should sell insurance to cover travel/hotel expenses in these situatations). The only thing he's really done wrong is (presumably) signing up to ELF without knowing what films he was going to be doing (he did say he was looking for work at the last con?). E.g. he's booked the con and then added work to his schedule whereas if he knows he doing X or Y movie with freetime around about a certain date, it's much safer for him to book cons (films never come forward in shooting dates).

Edit: That maybe all sounds a bit rational/pompous when what some people need is to express or feel righteous disappointment and anger (in which case replies like mine aren't helpful and in fact are down right annoying). Sorry about that - it wasn't what I meant. ((hugs)) to anybody effected.

honeyelf
06-20-2006, 03:37 PM
I'll add my sympathies for all who were hoping to see Elijah at ELF. :( I know I was looking forward to all the pictures, reports and general squee.

And I'll have to apologize like sneaking in advance for what I'm going to say next. But we want our favorite One Lad to have success, and this is a sad by-product of his professionalism and dedication to his craft. Yes, he's dissapointed the priviledged few for now, but think how happy we'll be when this film - whichever it is - hits theaters! :z: In some way I suppose we're watching our favorite actor go from "that guy who was Frodo" to a more successful actor, and the end result may be that the fans will have less opportunity in the future to interact with him. :(

honey~

Achila
06-20-2006, 03:39 PM
And I'll have to apologize like sneaking in advance for what I'm going to say next. But we want our favorite One Lad to have success, and this is a sad by-product of his professionalism and dedication to his craft. Yes, he's dissapointed the priviledged few for now, but think how happy we'll be when this film - whichever it is - hits theaters! :z: In some way I suppose we're watching our favorite actor go from "that guy who was Frodo" to a more successful actor, and the end result may be that the fans will have less opportunity in the future to interact with him. :(

Oh, of course I would never begrudge the lad work -- what sort of a fan would I be then? I was merely whining a little -- don't mind me ;)

honeyelf
06-20-2006, 03:48 PM
Aww, Achila! You're certainly permitted to whine a little! I think I might be crying for days if I'd planned to go. :k

It's just I've seen some people who claimed to be Elijah's most loyal fans really furious at him for this cancellation, and I'm apalled at those people! :mad: :rolleyes:

But everyone here has proved themselves to be the class acts I knew you all were! I tell you, the Faculty Lounge is really the best place on earth to be an Elijah Wood fan! (((Faculty Sisters)))

love,
honey~

Achila
06-20-2006, 03:55 PM
Aww, Achila! You're certainly permitted to whine a little! I think I might be crying for days if I'd planned to go. :k

I guess my attitude is "easy come, easy go" or whatever expression would be appropriate for this!


It's just I've seen some people who claimed to be Elijah's most loyal fans really furious at him for this cancellation, and I'm apalled at those people! :mad: :rolleyes:

For those coming a long way and spending a lot of money, I can almost understand it, especially since Creation does not provide refunds. I only live a couple of hours away so I don't have added traveling expenses.

honeyelf
06-20-2006, 04:02 PM
I'm sorry if I sound judgemental. I don't mean to. And after all, I've no room to speak; I've had my chance twice.

saile
06-20-2006, 07:54 PM
I hear Creation is offering refunds. :confused:

Achila
06-20-2006, 07:59 PM
Various people have reported this but I don't know what the conditions might be. Perhaps it's for international travelers? No clue. We haven't explored that prospect yet. :(

tgshaw
06-21-2006, 08:35 AM
Besides the cost and distance, I suppose the level of disappointment would be affected by how much someone's decision to attend the con was based on Elijah being there. That is, someone who's an EJW fan but not particularly a JRRT/LotR fan would probably be more disappointed than someone who was looking forward to hobnobbing with other Tolkienites and considered Elijah's appearance an added attraction rather than the main event.

honeyelf
06-21-2006, 11:50 AM
The two or three people whose response has been anger seem to have a sort of proprietary feeling, like they are owed apologies or explanations. One woman said she hopes Creation fines Elijah for cancelling his appearance!

Which is all quite ridiculous IMVHO. He's paid to make movies, his movies are why we've all become fans! I'm sorry, I know I'm just way to opinionated about this, but it seems utterly ridiculous to forget why we are "fans" in the first place. Especially since the convention people state straight away that there is always the possibility that an actor will have to cancel their appearance.

But I also have to add that for the handful of fans who are having tantrums, there are several times many more who have picked up their chins and decided to go anyway, for the opportunity to meet friends whom they only know from on-line. From my own past experience I bet they'll have a really great time!

honey who has said far far too much as usual!

ceefour
06-21-2006, 12:17 PM
The bad news is I'll have another set of movies. The good news is 300 minutes (that's 5 hours) of Costa Bote's footage taken during filming.

Stolen from TORN--

www.homemediaretailing.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=9277

C4

honeyelf
06-21-2006, 12:28 PM
Maybe the good news is that you'll have another set of movies, and that your local library will have another set of movies too! ;)

Meanwhile, the bad news is that a moth just flew out of my wallet! :rolleyes:

Amazon wish-list, here I come! (Via TG's of course! :k )

ETA: What I really want to know is, will THE homemade audition footage be on these discs? :confused:

Mechtild
06-21-2006, 12:58 PM
Golly, Ceefour, that link was Oh-la-la! I see big spending ahead. I already am planning to get the complete soundtrack of The Two Towers which I think is coming out in November; I LOVED the one for FotR, which I still play all the time.

~ Mechtild

BunnieBugs
06-21-2006, 12:58 PM
The bad news is I'll have another set of movies.

Oh, no. Oh, no no no. How can they make us buy yet another version of these films? I had heard that PJ was holding out for HD DVD before another set was released, and if that's true, then there will be yet another set (and a whole new DVD player) at some point in the future. Argh.

On the plus side, I like the idea of being able to view the entire extended editions without the break in the middle. That's very cool. And the documentary footage is something that many of us have been waiting for. I guess they didn't realize that most of us would have bought just that part of it, and attaching the films wasn't really a necessary incentive.

sneaking
06-21-2006, 01:24 PM
I think these versions of the movies could be a bit lower in audio visual quality than the EEs (might matter if you are home cinema geek). Just to manage to fit it all on the DVD.

I'm not going to be buying these DVDs. I do ScreenSelect (NetFlix type thing). I can rent them or even just the Extras discs (assuming they are seperate) whenever I like. Within a year or two, there's going to be a HD DVD set of these movies and that is the set I shall outlay my cash for. If it turns out I especially adore the Extras or there is something that isn't on the HD DVD that I really want, I can pick this DVD up cheap (i.e. a long time after it comes out or second hand).

Mechtild
06-21-2006, 02:25 PM
ScreenSelect is a company like Netflix? Interesting, Sneaking. I have not yet signed up for Netflix, since it's rather expensive unless you've got a family that really watches a lot of films to make it worth while. We really don't watch very much, especially me.

But at 30.00 per DVD, it might be worth it to screen them first. Of course, maybe they will get copies at our video store and I can rent them from there, first, and see if they are worth buying. I wouldn't want to lose any visual quality, Sneaking, no matter how convenient it is to have the whole of an EE on one disc.

My brother bought my mother a set of DVD's with old mystery films on it. There are so many on each disc the quality is just abysmal. I couldn't even tell what was supposed to be going on. What a terrible product! So it is now a signal to me: if a DVD collection seems to have an awful lot of screentime packed onto each disc, it's bound to mean poor quality. But packing ten films on a disc is not the same as putting the EE on one. (I am hoping.)

BunnieBugs
06-21-2006, 02:30 PM
I don't think there will be much loss of quality, if any. The only reasons the extended editions were broken up onto two discs before was so that they could fit all those commentaries in there, too.

I know I will eventually buy these things, but I'm seriously considering renting them first, and maybe hold out until the price drops way down. I'm not sure I'll have the willpower, though. :rolleyes:

Mechtild
06-21-2006, 03:04 PM
The only reasons the extended editions were broken up onto two discs before was so that they could fit all those commentaries in there, too.
I hadn't thought of that. Good point, Bunnie! Well, I guess I'll be shelling out the moolah. :rolleyes: :D

~ Mechtild

honeyelf
06-21-2006, 03:08 PM
I'm not going to be buying these DVDs. I do ScreenSelect (NetFlix type thing). I can rent them or even just the Extras discs (assuming they are seperate) whenever I like. Within a year or two, there's going to be a HD DVD set of these movies and that is the set I shall outlay my cash for. If it turns out I especially adore the Extras or there is something that isn't on the HD DVD that I really want, I can pick this DVD up cheap (i.e. a long time after it comes out or second hand).

Good strategy, Sneaking :k Off to NetFlix I go to get it in my queu!

honey!

tgshaw
06-21-2006, 06:09 PM
Yo! I've been waiting for those documentaries for over 5 years! IIRC, main filming started in October 2000, and it was announced almost immediately that Costa Bote was going to be filming the entire process and it would be made into a documentary. Then all mention of it disappeared, and I finally read that the idea had been dropped. I was extremely disappointed, and thought it was a great waste since it had all been shot already. So this is a wonderful surprise! :cool: :cool: Yep, NewLine missed an opportunity with me - I would have paid that much for just the documentaries without the movies included!

To keep things in perspective, there are some movie-related things that other people buy that I don't -- I think we each have our own priorities.

Mechtild
06-21-2006, 09:44 PM
What's "Costa Bote", anyway? :)

~ Mechtild

BunnieBugs
06-21-2006, 09:46 PM
What's "Costa Bote", anyway? :)


Costa Botes (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0090904/)

;)

Mechtild
06-21-2006, 09:49 PM
"Costa Botes" is a person's name? I thought it was like, "Costa Brava", or something like that. A film company's name.

D'OH! :o :rolleyes: :p

~ Mechtild

honeyelf
06-22-2006, 03:34 AM
Dear Faculty Friends,

I want to apologize for my opining of late. It was impolitic. I still don't understand, but I should have just kept my notions to myself.

I feel like Foghorn Leghorn right now. You obviously could have all told me to "shut up" but you didn't. I think I'll lay low for a while! :)

h~

Brummie
06-22-2006, 07:09 AM
((honey)), you have nothing to apologise for. There is no reason why the voice of reason and moderation should not be heard and I, for one, was glad to hear it.

saile
06-22-2006, 07:19 AM
honey who has said far far too much as usual!NOT SO Honey! I've only had time for browsing recently but I always look forward to your comments and insights. Thanks for keeping this thread so engaging.:k

o! I've been waiting for those documentaries for over 5 years! IIRC, main filming started in October 2000, and it was announced almost immediately that Costa Bote was going to be filming the entire process and it would be made into a documentary. Then all mention of it disappeared, and I finally read that the idea had been dropped. I was extremely disappointed, and thought it was a great waste since it had all been shot already. So this is a wonderful surprise! Yep, NewLine missed an opportunity with me - I would have paid that much for just the documentaries without the movies included!I am too Very excited to hear of these as well. I was afraid we'd never see the Costa Bote film.

saile

p.s Tg where is your link to pre-order these. You know now that I know of them I can't wait to order them.

Mechtild
06-22-2006, 07:53 AM
I want to apologize for my opining of late. It was impolitic. I still don't understand, but I should have just kept my notions to myself.

I feel like Foghorn Leghorn right now. You obviously could have all told me to "shut up" but you didn't. I think I'll lay low for a while!
Honey, I scrolled back up to see what it was you might have said but didn't see anything with blinking lights. How provocative could it have been?

*smooch*

~ Mechtild

tgshaw
06-22-2006, 08:53 AM
p.s Tg where is your link to pre-order these. You know now that I know of them I can't wait to order them.
Would you believe Amazon doesn't have them available for pre-order yet? Geez, and this was announced at least 2 days ago :rolleyes: :p !

Might have something to do with this line from the write-up ;) :
The DVDs street Aug. 29 (prebook July 25)

That's pretty soon, actually. Either they've been keeping this project well under wraps, or it was announced sooner and we didn't hear about it (now how could that happen :eek: ?)!

I'll be keeping my eyes open. :)

ceefour
06-22-2006, 09:19 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060622/film_nm/rings_dc_1

There is no doubt that I will buy this (and probably have it shipped to the beach house I'll be at when it is released because I. Just. Can't. Wait. :rolleyes: ). I wish it was the HD version, because I'll have to purchase that, too, when it's available (little, tiny swoons for Boromir's sleeves, Pippin's scarf, and Frodo's Grey Havens shirt).

C$--I mean, C4

P.S. Faculty members (with more self-discipline :p and who are more responsible with their wallets :haha: than I :o ) are welcome to borrow mine. :k After I've watched them several times. Each. Especially the EW parts.*

*Multiple viewings are for research purposes, of course.

Happy Birthday, SandCastles! :)

whiteling
06-23-2006, 04:40 AM
*sound of tripping feet on sand*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/FrodoSandCastle.jpg
"Where the heck is that SandCastles I am supposed to bring the following secret message: "Happy Birthday!"??! --- I've come all the long way from the Shire and here ain't no castles far and wide!!"

Don't mind slightly miffed Frodo, SandCastles! ;)
Hope you're having a wonderful day.

Screencap again courtesy of Mechtild :)

~~~~~~

Oh, and (((Honey))) - nothing to apologise for, methinks. :)

tgshaw
06-23-2006, 07:27 AM
"...had they come out sooner people might have been confused."
Uh, yeah... :rolleyes:


OTOH, I'm expecting new releases to continue throughout our lifetime (well, my lifetime, anyway :p ). After the HD releases it'll be time for the 10th anniversary edition, which I'm sure they'll find something new for, then there'll be some kind of advanced technology that will do for audio what HD does for the visuals, and there will have to be versions for that... :p Hey, the book's been going for 50 years and they're still selling that by just putting new covers on it. :haha:

Of course, Sandcastles is such a young thing that they may run out of editions during her lifetime ;) - In fact, Jonathan is amazed that she even has birthdays -

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/8a893b10.jpg

- but wishes her a happy one, anyway. (It had to be a Jonathan pic, in honor of the EII viewing in that little hole-in-the-wall theater in Indianapolis :k ).

--Whiteling: :lol: I know those Elven cloaks are supposed to be good for any environment, but it looks a bit warm there. :D

---------------

BTW, from what I've read, the two HD technologies are still at the stage when no one knows which one will ultimately win out (as during the Beta vs. VHS days). From ads I've seen, it looks like movies have to "sign up" for one or the other when releasing HD versions. Any ideas which LotR will be on? (Of course, if they pick the one that loses, that will just give them a reason to release another version. :p )

BLOSSOM
06-23-2006, 07:34 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SANDCASTLES!

Here's young Mr. Baggins himself, just about ready to leave Bag End and attend your party! Hope he brings a bottle! :)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/Sandcastles1.jpg

And I'm sure this nice young man will be more than happy to provide the music!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/Sandcastles2.jpg

Have a lovely day! :k