View Full Version : The Faculty Lounge -- An Ongoing Elijah Wood Discussion x9
txtac
09-01-2005, 02:28 PM
"Elijah Wood joins Emilio Estevez'z Kennedy Project"
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1508760/story.jhtml
honeyelf
09-01-2005, 05:57 PM
I've loved the all posts regarding goodness, and the all too prevalent cynical response to it! I had more I wanted to say about goodnes, but find myself at a loss for words. But all your posts about it have pointed out to me what lovely people you all are! I'm glad to be here with you! :k
TG, I'm praying for your strength and endurance in tending your mother, and for her speedy recovery.
hugs,
honey!
Morning all!!!!! :k :k
just sneakes in the backdoor ,whanted to say this!
Thank you all for links to interwiws and articels!!!!!
thank you; thank you :k :k
TG ,,hope your mother is okey!!! :k
Whiteling ,,Thanks for the beuteful pictures!!!
LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD
Skater girl
09-02-2005, 02:54 AM
I have to credit Sweetestheart over at A&F for this link, and I hope I am not contravening any rules by posting it here, but I though this was a really good balanced article about Green Street.
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/film/interviews/article309592.ece
Also, I have finally got my scanner working, so here are my favourites of the photos I got in Edinburgh. The first isn't the best of Elijah, but I like it because it has both him and Charlie on. I can quite forgive Charlie his bad accent when he looks so adorable. He looks no more like a tough hooligan than Elijah does.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/pippa134/elijah9.jpg
The second is what I consider the best one of Elijah, because he is looking thoughful and attentive.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/pippa134/elijah.jpg
The guy in the left at the back was befriended by the folks who had been waiting for Elijah since lunchtime, because he looked like a larger version of Dom Monaghan.
ETA - A reminder that Elijah is on BBC radio 4 on Saturday 17:30 GMT. Listen at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/filmprogramme/ for a week after. It also includes and interview with of the actors from Billy Boyd's new film 'On a clear day'
Random
09-02-2005, 03:30 AM
Thats a very nice article from the Indy, Skater Girl.
Were any UK-ers watching Bad Lads Army last night? There was a very short TV spot for GSH, with something new a quote from Maxim magazine, which has given the film four stars and voted it best film of the month. Im glad its laddish enough for them. ;)
Achila
09-02-2005, 07:27 AM
A couple of tidbits. EiI will be screening at the Telluride Film Festival, and chud.com has given both Hooligans and EiI very good reviews:
You know, its great to see Elijah doing these more off-the-radar type flicks since donning the curly follicles in Return of the King. Eternal Sunshine, Sin City, this, and Everything is Illuminated (which opens the week after this - read Devins take on that one a little further down)
its varied work, which is always a plus. And after viewing the trailer for this, it looks like it could be worth a watch
preferably while drunk and punching people
This is just a wonderful movie. Hilarious and heartbreaking, Everything is Illuminated has earned itself an early spot on my top ten for the year. Elijah Woods plays Jonathan Safran Foer behind glasses that impossibly magnify his already huge eyes, but the film is stolen again and again by Gogol Bordello singer Eugene Hutz making his acting debut as Alexi. Schreiber has his first at-bat and he hits a grand slam.
The second is good but as we feared..."the film is stolen again and again by...Eugene Hutz" :(
Mariole
09-02-2005, 07:29 AM
Thank you for the pics and reports, Skater Girl and Whiteling! I have been buried with work these last 2 weeks, and have only been able to read a little KD. So the majority of pics and reports were not seen by me. I even forgot what ELF was until I caught up again today. :o
I love your Dom Monaghan lookalike, Skater girl. Ah, I just love first-hand reports! It makes me feel as if I've had the adventure as well. *hugs you all*
Thank you for the good news, Random and Achila! I hope the movie does well. *crosses fingers* and EII, too. *crosses toes* And that Elijah keeps his career marching along as well as he's been--what a clever lad! *crosses eyes and falls over*
ETA: And after viewing the trailer for this, it looks like it could be worth a watch
preferably while drunk and punching people :p
Simulposted with Achila, so catching up:
I'm not going to worry about a film being "stolen" by someone else. Isn't this the recurring theme for Elijah's movies lately? They said that about a couple of Eddie Murphy's costars in Beverly Hills Cop, and it didn't seem to hurt his career any. :) I'm going to take the varied-work comment as a very good sign. And people are always looking for the next great thing. I don't begrudge Eugene his success, but keeping a career going in the arts is a very tough thing. I wish them both lots of luck.
"Elijah Woods" -- :rolleyes: This will not be his greatest fan, if he can't even get the name right! :p
saile
09-02-2005, 09:59 AM
The second is good but as we feared..."the film is stolen again and again by...Eugene Hutz" :(IMVHO I Think this is one of the reasons Liev describes Elijah as "insanely generous". Just guessing....... that he plays the part as directed and written by Liev very well. It just is not the "flashier" part. I think that is what most mean when they say it is stolen. Not the acting but the part.
But he had to know that when he read the script or screenplay. Elijah is just humble enough to willingly be part of an ensemble cast. I will be grateful that Eugene comes through with a great performance. The film could not be successful without it. Of course my question is, how much is acting on eugene's part and how much is it being himself????? Elijah will be acting. And again he does it so well people mistake it for just being himself.
SPOILERS
If you have read the book or the piece in the New Yorker on which the movie is based, Alex is the lead character ostensibly. Jonathan's character is subtle. I am really curious to see what Liev does with the Jonathan character and how he gets it on screen. Okay I should take this to the other thread.
End Spoilers
I do think other actors and directors and film makers who see this film will recognize the talent in Elijah in this role and then visualize him in other roles. And they will see what a team player he is and that may open more roles for him. And the more critical acclaim this movie gets, the greater the number of film makers and directors who will see it. :z: I keep telling myself that Elijah chose this role and he seems to have good instincts regarding his career.
Of course I am still smarting from the lack of appreciation from many for Frodo :( . But I think that some of that is a backlash - related to the recent topic of goodness and the generally lack of appreciation for that. The cynics of the world dislike his earnestness. In retrospect I now find it AMAZING that Peter Jackson ever got LOTR made. It could not have been made in Hollywood IMVHO.
sorry for rambling.....
saile
Achila
09-02-2005, 10:19 AM
Of course I am still smarting from the lack of appreciation from many for Frodo :( . But I think that some of that is a backlash - related to the recent topic of goodness and the generally lack of appreciation for that. The cynics of the world dislike his earnestness. In retrospect I now find it AMAZING that Peter Jackson ever got LOTR made. It could not have been made in Hollywood IMVHO.Saile, I think we're all still a bit shocked that Frodo didn't garner Elijah more acclaim, particularly after hearing various people -- most especially Ian McKellen -- say regarding Fellowship, that if you think he's good now, just wait. They were right and then some, from our point of view, but Frodo was only seen as one character out of the whole, not the focal point of the entire piece, as he really is. It's unbelievable to me to think that all of Elijah's "new" success with winning roles is almost entirely due to his performances as Patrick and Kevin, and not Frodo, but that seems to be the case. It's almost as though he had to distance himself from Frodo before directors/producers would give him a chance, and he has done that brilliantly. :D
The next few years with this young man should be very interesting and exciting -- Liev was definitely right.
As for this discussion of earnestness being considered disingenuous and unworthy for some reason, I could definitely write a dissertation on that, having been a John Denver fan for 30+ years. There was someone who was the very definition of scorned because of what some people considered his "Pollyanna" outlook on life (which couldn't have been further from the truth).
Alyon
09-02-2005, 12:37 PM
All of this lovely discussion on goodness. Started out by the very eloquent Mechtild, followed by TGs post and all the rest
((((my best wishes regarding you mother TG))))
Goodness is highly attractive to some people . I should include all of us in this here forum as "some" of those people :) . NOt squeaky-clean, follow-all-of-the-rules goodness. But the kind of goodness that extends an idealism and caring to others beyond oneself. Where doing right by others and living by a standard in which the person goes beyond personal interest...that is actually exciting to people who search out better things for this world. Thus we adore Frodo. And because Elijah also seems to operate on good and generous principles, why we tend to admire him, too. I think. ;) :D
I think the cause of goodness gets a good boost when it has a counterculture rebellious qualtiy, as it did in the '60's. Even those who might naturally not have, on their own, talked about values of peace and love, went along with the crowd...because it was cool. Charismatic people led the way. Charismatic people who didn't follow societal rules so much as sincere guidelines based on trying to be or do "good". I'm speaking about the best of the lot--and luckily in those times the best of the lot were also talented people with attractive and charismatic personalities who people were drawn to like drawn to magnets. In those days, "Frodo Lives" was not something trivial, but meaningful. I say all of this because not all of the last century was cynical. And it is possible for such ideals to be popular again. In fact, we ahve so many fragments of our international societies anymore. A few decades ago everyone (for example, in America) watched the same tv shows and heard the same music. NOt so anymore, with so many cable choices. So there still exists those of us who love goodness, which is likely why, though some people don't get it, Frodo still has a huge following, and elijah still has even older ladies following him about. There is a hunger among many of us to celebrate the good guy. Again--not the government sponsered good guy--but the one who can be compassionate, cares how he/she treats others in the world. Maybe the world in general doesn't latch on to it as the popular thing--but such can still have an intense following (in fact, is any one trend particularly predominant anymore?) And I think throughout history there has always been at least a small percentage of the population who cling to the ideas of making the world better (for all people, not just their own group or for those who share their belief system), that has been able to progress humanity despite them being in the minority.
So if popular culture isn't really celebrating the good heros now. I think the intense following represents that percentage of the population that always exists and who are so glad to find some real examples of what we all want to live by.
I am totally rambling without organization. It's just that goodness in that sense of wanting to raise the level of humanity to a more tolerant and compassionate place exists and it isn't just abuot what is popular in the culture. But it still needs to endure. I can totally see a time in the future where it breaks into popular culture again in a big way...at that time I see people looking back at Frodo and elevating him as hero again. And looking at people like elijah and giving them a broader appreciation again--as something authentic before it was the cool thing to be doing.
I love that Elijah talked about the speeches of Bobby Kennedy and that those would be so good for our country to hear again. I will so look forward to this project because not only am I glad to see Elijah in it, but also it will be nice to have ideals and values voiced that are not about selfishness, but are about American values of lifting the lives of everyone.
Thank you Skater Girl, Whiteling for the gorgeous pictures you just posted. And I don't know if I thanked Eandme for your earlier reports. :k I"m sure I missed others, but I have loved hearing your stories. :k
ETA: My heart goes out to all of those in the American south affected by Katrina. Over in lj land there are several people listing aid organizations and with ideas as to how to help....
Mariole
09-02-2005, 12:54 PM
What a lovely post, Alyon! I will try to put my irritation at people celebrating ugliness in the "trendy" pile, along with those pants that hang down around boys' knees. (Where's that gag smiley when you need it?) ;)
In those days, "Frodo Lives" was not something trivial, but meaningful. I say all of this because not all of the last century was cynical. And it is possible for such ideals to be popular again.
Oh, that it will be so! :z:
I just had to share this lovely article, courtesy of Ghyste:
http://www.thisislondon.com/films/articles/20250512?source=Evening%20Standard&ct=5
A sample:
Despite being in his mid-twenties, Wood is a Hollywood veteran possessed of keen intelligence, innate savviness and a wise head that would sit well on someone twice his age. With his angelic, swimming-pool eyes and faint rumour of facial hair, Wood is disarmingly boyish.
honeyelf
09-02-2005, 01:55 PM
Lovely post, Alyon!
I just got a personal e-mail from Rajal at Odd Lot. S/he wanted me to alert you all to the e-mail they sent out last night. They have a contest going right now which you all might be intersted in.
Also dont forget to take the Hoolifan Challenge! Register on the GSH website and bring your friends to see Green Street Hooligans on opening weekend. One Hoolifan from each city with the most friends attending an opening weekend screening will be a winner. The grand prize winner will be from the city with the highest box office. More details are on the GSH website.
There you have it! I'll also spread the word to the usual websites.
honey!
Skater girl
09-02-2005, 02:01 PM
You don't half need to scrutinize the TV guides in detail these days. I almost didn't see that Elijah is appearing on BBC1 in the UK on a show called 'The Heaven and Earth Show' at 10am on Sunday. It will be rather different from The Graham Norton Show me thinks. It is no wonder he looked tired in Edinburgh and so alive at ELF- He must have been working solid the few days he was here.
Achila
09-02-2005, 08:08 PM
Another new article about Elijah, from the Independent -- some cool info in this one:
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article309826.ece
Also, don't know if we mentioned this yet but Lij and Liev will be on The View this coming Thursday, for those in the US, and Lij will be on TRL on Friday.
Alyon
09-02-2005, 11:55 PM
(((Mariole))) and (((Achila)))
Those are both wonderful articles!!!
Honey, thanks for the contest news! :k
honeyelf
09-03-2005, 03:56 AM
All these terrific articles lately! I hope somebody is archiving them! Lean times are coming! :(
The other day I was bemoaning the fact that after this month there wouldn't be more Lij for a good long while. But he's got all sorts of intersting projects coming up! My he's good to us, isn't he? :k (((Lij)))
And what is honey doing up at this absurd (2:00am here) hour? honey is way too excited by the knowledge that at this time next week she'll have seen "the eyes" for the second time! I'm going to New York! :)
sweet dreaming,
honey!
whiteling
09-03-2005, 06:38 AM
Lucky Honey! I'm so glad for you :k!
Regarding the recent discussion on goodness: :lol: Sorry, but I just tried to envision our Faculty Lounge based not on Elijah's Frodo part but on Kevin. :eek: :D The mind boggles!! I very much doubt we had so many lovely, positive-thinking people aka realistic optimists in here then! (Saw Sin City the other day - a visual ingenuity, indeed... but otherwise? Not exactly my cup of tea. After all, I am glad for Elijah who had fun with all the wire work :p.)
(((Faculty)))
Off to read the articles Mariole and Achila posted... thank you! :) :) Isn't it just wonderful now to be an Elijah fan? *beams with joy*
Mechtild
09-03-2005, 08:46 AM
OH, Achila and Mariole (and thanks to Ghyste, too, for pointing Mariole that way), what two great articles! I am answering a long letter but I want to gush a little more, later. (P.S. Achila, I have found that other fans of Frodo in particular have been John Denver fans. Hmmm...! :) )
As for that post back there, I hadn't meant it to be a "rant," quite (Mariole! :cool: ), but merely "having my say" about something that had been bothering me. Thanks, all of you, for stepping up to show support for the ideas presented in it. It made me feel like we were the G. S. Elite stalking down the street, a group of fans of the "Fro' Team" who meant business! If the critics of "the reality of what is good, true and beautiful" in LotR and in the world wanted to mess with us, well, they had some pretty fired-up Fro'-matrons to contend with. They were coming down the internet street ready to kick a**, and, wielding some pretty heavy blueberry scones and broken tea pots! ;)
Alyon, sensistively said. I hope there is a new era of higher and wider concern for others than there has been on the horizon. We sure could use it. I often thought that the intensity and scope of the positive response of audiences for the LotR films was a sign of people's thirst for that very thing, after decades of culturally imposed privation.
I wonder too if modern ideas of equality and non-judgemental attitudes have a part to play in this. If everyone is equal, then no one can be better than anyone else and if they appear to be, then it must just be a combination of circumstances. If people's "badness" is explained as a product of their upbringing and circumstances and therefore, partially, not their fault, then "goodness" can be explained in a similar way.
Your remarks struck a nerve. How I chafed being a Special Ed. teaching assistant a few years back. I was really quite unsuited as some one too deeply a product of the past. When children did bad things to each other we were to "manage" them, trying to show them how such behaviour was "inappropriate". I thought we did them all a disservice. Only the most severely impaired child, cognitively, who was incapable of any communication, even non-verbal, was beyond being able to receive the concepts of good and bad, and of what ennobled them as individuals and what degraded their own dignity, in terms of volition and behaviour. Cognitively more normal children are taught all the same stuff. Well, obviously I could go on and on. :rolleyes:
tg, thanks for the "applause," too. I know from your posts over the year how strongly you believe in the moral structure that undergirds Tolkien's world and how much you miss its greater presence in the world. (How are things with your mom at the hospital? check in when you can.)
Ereshkigal, the examples of the ways the film version diminished or even negated Tolkien's moral sense in the film were just the sorts of things I meant, when I said the films had conceded to the modern mood that was deeply skeptical of goodness. Yet, they managed to get an awful lot of Tolkien's world view and sense across, hence the films deep sort of popularity with its fans.
Regarding the recent discussion on goodness: Sorry, but I just tried to envision our Faculty Lounge based not on Elijah's Frodo part but on Kevin. The mind boggles!! I very much doubt we had so many lovely, positive-thinking people aka realistic optimists in here then!
I am sure you are right in what you just said. You have said more simply and plainly what many of us have noticed about us. The people who primarily who gather in a place like this do seem to share a view of the world that, although it is open-eyed, is essentially one that is appreciative rather than dismissive, and hopeful rather than despairing. I think coming here as Frodo fans is the root of that. You are right. Had he never played Frodo, this group would not have assembled or developed its point of view (which has more in common than not) the way it has. Because fans here almost 100% came because of EW's portrayal of Frodo, although they are anxious to see him go on, play other roles, even wicked roles, their love for the actor is founded in their love for Frodo. Posters here always try to see the best in Elijah Wood, and hope for the best for him. I think that has a lot to do with what sort of people the character of Frodo draws in the first place. Lucky for Elijah Wood and us, he seems to be turning into someone worthy of having so much confidence placed in him. I am sure it is a burden for him, but a burden that can only better him as a person. These recent interviews seem to indicate that he is realising that, even if he didn't quite before.
When I read those two articles, especially the the second one Achila just posted the link to, I couldn't help thinking, "Elijah Wood would not be thinking and talking like this, or making the choices he has been making, had he not spent those years immersed with those people in that project playing that role in that story by that author. It has formed him and, if he didn't know it before, he knows it now -- and -- he has the wisdom to be grateful for it."
I often have read interviews in which he has shrugged off the fame of Frodo, confessing good-naturedly that he is stuck with the identification, saying indulgently that he doesn't mind his 'little shadow' or the following of Frodo-centric fans that seem to love him for having played the part. But, having just read that second article, I saw, or imagined I saw, that EW has come to understand the experience as an even deeper one.
EW has been aware that being in a huge blockbuster made him a star and gave him more opportunities. He has been aware that being in it was the source of a lot of fun, a first experience of fellowship and the forming of enduring friendships. But, in that article, I got a sense that he is looking at that experience and appreciating it as being formative at the deeper level of character, formative for life. That makes having been Frodo a very different sort of "burden." Still aburden, but an extremely positive, transformative one.
Oh, now I'm getting all misty. Silly old fan.
~ Mechtild
Achila
09-03-2005, 08:53 AM
(P.S. Achila, I have found that other fans of Frodo in particular have been Bob Denver fans. Hmmm...! :) )Er...uh...it's John, sweetie, and yes, so have I. It appears that there are some similar qualities in Frolijah that make these two fandoms intersect. It no longer surprises me to find Elijah icons on JD livejournals and vice versa. ;)
ETA: EiI interviews: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2677770?htv=12&htv=12&htv=12&htv=12
Mechtild
09-03-2005, 08:58 AM
Oh, you know whom I MEANT, Achila. :D Not Gilligan or Maynard G. Krebbs, for heaven's sake. :o :o
I shall edit that AT ONCE!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
(*singing* ...."Rocky Mountain hiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh in Colorado...!")
Achila
09-03-2005, 09:14 AM
Mech, luv, of course I knew who you meant (and I've seen that mix up a time or two before ;) -- not to worry). I'll give your regards to Colorado when I'm there next month.
BunnieBugs
09-03-2005, 09:34 AM
I just love that article in the Independent that you linked, Achila. Of course he had nearly all the music that the interviewer gave him! You'd have to go reeeeeally obscure to find something that Elwood doesn't already know about.
I also couldn't help but notice this, relevant to some discussion from a few days ago:
"I was always called a monkey when I was child. It was a name that my mom gave me, because I'd climb up on to things. And I just love the word Simian."And also this:
It is perhaps no coincidence that Wood is also now trying to adapt a book, the cult Russian tome Novel With Cocaine, which features a Holden Caulfield-esque protagonist. He's in the middle of negotiating the rights, might star in it, might produce it. "Plus, the fact that he perhaps has already filmed his small part in Paris, Je t'aime (I hope I spelled that right -- I didn't look it up). And that film about Bobby Kennedy is supposed to start filming in early October! Looks like he's gone back to being a busy guy. :)
tgshaw
09-03-2005, 12:31 PM
Thanks to all for your prayers and positive thoughts. :k I'll continue to need them. My mom died at the hospital about an hour and a half after I was phoned here, and it's a 4-hour drive, so even though I was the first one there, she had already died before I arrived. My oldest brother and his wife got there soon after. We're the only family members within driving distance, and we've spent the last two days doing all the things you have to do at such a time. (I'd been through it once before, as I was living in Fort Dodge when my dad died, but my brother hadn't.) I'm back in Omaha now for a couple of days. Brothers and sisters, and some of their spouses and children, will start flying in from the West Coast tonight, but because some have had trouble getting flights over the holiday weekend, the funeral won't be until Tuesday. I'll have to be back in Fort Dodge by early Monday.
She was almost 89, so it's something we knew would happen, but it happened awfully suddenly. She'd been taking heart medication for quite some time, and she got into some breathing problems that her heart wasn't strong enough to get her out of. (I know it's not quite real to me yet -- I just had to go back over the last couple of sentences and change present tenses to past.) Besides being my mother, she's also been my best friend for the last five or six years, so I feel kind of adrift right now, like I have to figure out where I'm going from here. But I'm not feeling as anxious about some things as I expected to--I do think she's with me in spirit.
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I just spent about an hour writing a post on the "goodness" question, bringing up some of its not quite so pleasant realities, and some of its paradoxes, but I saved it on wordpad and deleted it here. Some of it may show up as part of an essay sometime, but I want to look at it when I'm feeling less pessimistic than I am now. One of the September updates on my website will be an essay that I wrote about a week ago which seems much more "realistically optimistic." (Not published quite yet as I'm still hoping to get some other small things done on the site first.)
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--On less serious subjects:
Achila -- Elijah on The View? Don't know if anyone remembers, but during one of Elijah's rounds on the talk show circuit I picked this as the one show I'd most like to see him on. The "regulars" are all women, and when they have a male guest they love to rake him over the coals -- in a good-natured way. If the guy can give as good as he gets, it can be a great show. I've only seen it a few times, so I hope I'm not basing this on better-than-usual days, but it could be good. And, judging from the Premiere interview, Lij and Liev together could be very good. I just got my television working again for the first time in two months but, of course, I'm supposed to be at work when that show is on.
One of "our" Google ads leads to another cable showing:
The Faculty: Sat., Sep. 3 at 1:45 AM / EST on AMC
(For some reason, the ad reads "Jon Stewart in The Faculty" -- He plays one of the teachers. :confused: )
The rest of the ads running at the same time are all about improving your life through positive thinking.
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And you wanna talk countercultural? I love Maynard G. Krebs. :cool:
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:k {{{Faculty}}} :k
honeyelf
09-03-2005, 12:42 PM
{{{{{TG}}}}} I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm not good at finding words for these things, but I'll continue to pray for you. :k
honey
Mechtild
09-03-2005, 12:46 PM
tg, I still find myself popping out with Maynard G. Krebb's (it's Krebs ? whaddya know :rolleyes: ), signature line, "Work?!?!?!" -- often. I loved that show, although it may not wear well.
I haven't seen it for ... oh, forty years. *ouch*
Speaking of years passing ...
Your mom has passed, I see, tg. (((((tg))))) :k I am so sorry to hear how much you are missing a mom who has become a dear friend to you, especially when you have had a lot of upheaval recently. No wonder you are feeling "adrift." My mom is 82 and I love her very much. I will be very bereft, I think, when she is gone at last.
I hope you will make a note in here when you incorporate your thoughts into that essay. tg. I am sure you will do good things with what you have been experiencing, however hard it has been, and still is.
~ Mechtild :) :) :)
whiteling
09-03-2005, 12:57 PM
((((TG)))) - I'm so sorry!
I will be praying for your mother and you.
Take good care of yourself!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/girl-tomb.jpg
BunnieBugs
09-03-2005, 12:57 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about your mom, TG. I'm thinking about you. ((((((TG))))))
SandCastles
09-03-2005, 02:02 PM
TG,
Sorry to hear about your loss. Count me among those who have you and your mother and their thoughts and prayers. (Hugs you)
SandCastles
tgshaw
09-03-2005, 02:10 PM
Thank you for all your kind thoughts. (Whiteling, I can tell you posted a picture. All I can see is a red x, but knowing you I'm sure it's something wonderful. Thanks. I may be able to see it on my office computer. :)
tg, I still find myself popping out with Maynard G. Krebb's (it's Krebs ? whaddya know :rolleyes: ), signature line, "Work?!?!?!" -- often. I loved that show, although it may not wear well.
Mechtild, when I read your post, I realized I had no idea whether it was Krebs or Krebbs (I was sure it had an "s" on the end), so I looked it up on IMDb: Maynard G. Krebs. And in case you ever run into it in a trivia game, Gilligan actually had a first name -- Willy, evidently sometimes spelled Willie (maybe Willy had a sister :confused: ?).
A couple of things I forgot before:
I can't even find the post now :o , so don't know who mentioned it, but I'm wondering if someone could be kind enough to post the part of the translated JSF interview that includes his comments about being played by Elijah, for those of us (which may just be me) who don't know our way into or around LJ land :z: ? I gave a speculation on that in another essay I'm putting up for September, and would like to make sure he didn't say the opposite before I publish it. :o Thanks.
Also wanted to say that I don't think Elijah's deeper appreciation for Frodo is anyhing new. Many of his comments during and after the filming seemed to show he had it, including his saying that he'd always carry something of Frodo within him, and his thinking about getting a tattoo to represent the wound on Frodo's left shoulder, since it was a wound that never healed. He seems to have given up on the tattoo idea, but IMVHO he understood and appreciated Frodo quite well from the beginning. He has talked about the other side of the role, too (being offered more parts, etc.), but when an interviewer has said something negative about the character or being typecast as him, Elijah has turned it around to something positive in his response. Recently, when an interviewer brought up the usual comment about him "distancing" himself from Frodo by taking his recent roles, Elijah commented that he's always looked for roles that were completely different from what he'd already done, and people were just noticing it more now because the LotR movies were so well known; looking at his record shows that to be true, IMHO. And I remember an interview some time ago (probably not long after RotK came out) when an interviewer asked him if he was afraid that he'd be typecast as Frodo, and his answer was to the effect that he wanted to play other roles, but if he were always remembered only as Frodo, he would consider that an honor. So, he may not always talk about it, but I think the appreciation has always been there.
Narya Celebrian
09-03-2005, 03:00 PM
TG, I am so sorry for your loss. I have valued your comments in the past about your relationship with your Mom, and I know she always knew how much you were there for her, loving her and caring for her and being her friend. :k
Hold off as long as you need to on responding to my last PM - I hadn't heard this news when I wrote it, and I know you'll be occupied elsewhere for a while.
:k :k :k
honeyelf
09-03-2005, 03:08 PM
TG, here's the snip where Jonathan talks about Elijah playing him:
JSF: Its good that hes playing me, Im not shocked at all, says Jonathan Safran Foer. It would be more unsettling had they taken someone whom I feel close with in my head, like Woody Allen for example. But a quiet book? Thats funny; most people find it really loud and turbulent.
The interview is lenghty, but I can post it in the EiI book thread if anyone wishes. Just let me know, and your wish is my command!
honey!
Linwë
09-03-2005, 03:47 PM
TG, so sorry about your mother. I always appreciate and enjoy your comments here at The Faculty and I love your web site. Take care.
quicksilver
09-03-2005, 03:53 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this time, TG.
BLOSSOM
09-03-2005, 04:08 PM
TG - I'm truly sorry to hear your sad news. My thoughts are with you. Take care. Hugs. :k
And Grumpy - I hope all is well with you.
On a lighter note, thanks to Mariole (via Ghyste) and Achila for those two new interviews, particularly 'The Independant.' I loved this:
But with Elijah Wood, before you get to hobbits and hooligans, you have to talk music. It relaxes him, excites him and, frankly, is a lot more interesting and illuminating than Orlando Bloom, Josh Hartnett or somesuch young buck wittering on about their "craft". Wood has been making films for a decade and a half but his love of bands seems to be hardwired into his genes. (I'd brought him some CDs of fairly obscure British stuff I thought he might like; the little bugger already had most of them.) :)
I got the feeling the interviewer liked The One Lad.
SkaterGirl Thanks to you for the news that Elijah will be on 'The Heaven And Earth Show,' tomorrow (Sunday). I was quite surprised to see that, as it's something of a religious/spiritual programme, but I think it could be interesting.
saile
09-03-2005, 04:54 PM
Oh my((( Tg))).........my deepest sympathy....... my thoughts are with you.
saile
Brummie
09-03-2005, 05:05 PM
(((Tg))). I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. My deepest sympathy.
Mariole
09-03-2005, 05:34 PM
Deepest sympathy and best wishes to you, TG. You are a brave and kind person, and I honor the friendship you had with your Mom. Lots of love to the whole family. *hugs*
Shelbyshire
09-03-2005, 07:24 PM
I'm sorry for your loss, tg. My family and I will say a prayer tomorrow at Mass for your mother.
Ereshkigal
09-03-2005, 07:25 PM
Oh, TG,
I know i'm just a voice in the wilderness to you, but I'm so sorry to hear about your mom. I hope you'll find a kind of solace in these boards, and in indulging your passions and/or obsessions. In difficult times, my own obsessions become quite important to me, as a way to escape a reality that I just don't feel like dealing with 24/7.
God bless you and your siblings.
Eresh/Sandra
Alyon
09-03-2005, 09:31 PM
((((TgShaw))))
I'm so sorry about your mother. Though it will mean you miss her more, how lovely that you and she could be such close friends. What a wonderful gift. How special it is that she will have left such a wonderful impression of herself within you.
And thank you for your comments about Elijah always appreciating Frodo. I think it's only been recently that he has said things, in regard to his career, about doing things that don't always mark him as Frodo. By far the vast majority of comments I"ve heard from him all along is about how much he loved Frodo, and could identify with him--and how totally meaningful the journey (his and Frodo's) was to him.
lyric
09-03-2005, 09:52 PM
Tg I am really sorry to hear about your mother :( Mothers leave a big hole when they go. I will be thinking of you in the coming days, God Bless
TG ,,,,I am so sorry to hear about your lost!!!! :k
My thoughts are with you and your family!! :k
HUGS to you all!!!!
WOOD
Lady Wendy
09-04-2005, 02:46 AM
Tg
May I send my condolences to you and your family at this very difficult time for you all ...losing your Mum is really the most difficult loss of all . Mine is still around, thank Goodness, but her time will inevitably come, and when it does, I suspect that I may be the one, out of her three children, who will be able to hold it together enough to do all the necessary arrangements...something I am NOT looking forward to, I can tell you ! :(
Get back to us in your own time and speed...take as long as it takes, but when you feel ready, you can be sure that we will all still be here...
{{{{{{ :k Tg :k }}}}}}
Well, Ladies of the Faculty, I have been absent for a week, gallivanting over Eastern Europe way, attending a friend's wedding in Lublin, Poland...a real eye-opener of a celebration, involving continuous food for twenty-four hours, washed down with embarassing amounts of vodka ( Finnish vodka, interestingly !! ), and interspersed with dancing and Polish party games...
So, therefore, I have been very behind on all the Elijah News...last time I was here, I went with Pearl, Opaline, and Brummie ( nice to meet you, Brummie !! ) to see if we could spot Elijah at the London Premiere at the Appollo Cinema in the West End...
Huh, no such luck !!! :rolleyes:
Three hours or so in the rain, and what did we get for our pains ?...not even a glimpse !!
Mind you, I did have some thoughts on the nature of Fandom, and the whole Red carpet thing...Frankly, thinking back on it, I don't blame Elijah one little bit for sneaking in the back way as he did, seeing as how most of the fans out front were screaming for him like a pack of rabid dogs, as soon as someone caught a glimpse of him in the cinema foyer, very reminiscent of the phenomenon of the Beatles in the Sixties...they were truly frightening !!! I wouldn't have liked to go out in front of them, they were scary !!
However, I do reckon that the whole sneaking in the back way may have been engineered on the part of the people organizing the event...this is just possible, only why is a mystery!! They must have known that the people out front were only there to see him, so why couldn't they let him do his thing for five minutes ? I do reckon that the thing of letting fans in ten at a time for autographs may have been at his insistance, because, we all know how attentive he is to giving his fans what they want.....and I cannot believe that it was his idea to avoid us at all costs, however tired he undoubtedly was !! He just isn't like that, Bless him !!
So I am blaming management.... :rolleyes:
I also agree with Pearl when she said that she would always prefer to meet him at a controlled and pre-paid for meeting such as at a convention, where you know you will have your fair chance along with everyone else....
( although, personally, I would prefer to meet him at a friend's private house party, myself, with the opportunity to really natter with him at length, and get to know him away from all the limelight.....but then that's just me :D!! )
So this little fan-girlie will NOT be doing the "waiting-for-hours-in-the-rain-to-catch-an-illusive-two-second-glimpse" thing again...Life's just too short, I'm afraid !!
Still, we did get to meet another Faculty member, Brummie, and that was nice !!
Hilary
09-04-2005, 03:05 AM
Creeps in and looks about warily at the Elijah fans!
If there are any UK people here, Elijah is on BBC1 on the Heaven and Earth show this morning which starts at 10am. :D
Runs out of thread fast...
honeyelf
09-04-2005, 03:12 AM
I'm mightly intrigued now, especially with Blossom drawing attention to the nature of the porgram!
... it's something of a religious/spiritual programme, but I think it could be interesting.
I hope someone will capture it for us non-brits to listen to! :z:
Dduon
09-04-2005, 04:50 AM
Honeyelf,
just finished watching heaven and earth show here. Alas I have no recording ability but was really impressed how the one lad comes over in interview. The young lass interviewing him was clearly smitten, and remarked how 'nice' he is as a person for which he giggled and graciously thanked her.
He said a lot about his Mom and his supportive family,as well as giving a reasoned account of hooliganism in the UK. Was a pleasure to watch him. What also nice was the next guest was referring back to what Elijah had said in his interview. Seems he was impressed too. I only hope someone in the UK can put this up as a video clip,
Dduon (returning to lurking)
quicksilver
09-04-2005, 06:07 AM
I also caught the Heaven and Earth Show and it was a great interview. He wore a light blue shirt that brought out the blue in his eyes perfectly. (Well I know thats a bit swooney but I cant be bothered to go to the hugs Haven just to post that sentence. :D I'm sure you'll forgive me.)
I have no ability to get my video of it onto the net unfortunately. :(
There were a few clips from Green Street and the usual discussion about why lads get drawn into hooliganism.
He also mentioned how his mum and family help him keep a separation between his work and home life, how he doesnt live the "celebrity" lifestyle.
His mum would threaten to take him out of the business as a younster, if she thought he wasnt behaving himself! That would get him back in line as he loved acting so much. All in all a joy to listen to. Plus the giggle. :D
Ooh- I found an EII interview- its four pages and I havent read it myself yet (just skimmed it quickly) but its here;
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/features/elijahilluminated/index.php
Its the full interview that that snippet about him being in "Bobby" is from, which Bunnie posted a page or two back.
tgshaw
09-04-2005, 07:57 AM
( although, personally, I would prefer to meet him at a friend's private house party, myself, with the opportunity to really natter with him at length, and get to know him away from all the limelight.....but then that's just me :D!! )
Yes, LW, that's just you. There's no one else here who would be remotely interested in a few hours spent just getting to know Elijah Wood. ;) :p :D
Thanks for the EII interview, quicksilver -- a lot of new stuff in there. I'd always figured the field of sunflowers was CG, so I loved finding out that they'd actually been planted and the schedule of the shoot was planned around when they'd be ready. Shades of Hobbiton! :)
The interview sounds as if it was written down word-for-word, and also sounds as if Elijah was pretty excited, with all those run-on sentences. He also made two - yes, two - word usage mistakes :eek: (both with the same word). Do you think he slapped his forehead afterward and said, "Oh, ***!! There's no such thing as 'extremely unique' or 'very unique'!"? :p
Honey, thanks for posting the JSF snippet. I don't think I have to change anything in the essay. :)
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Again, continued thanks for all the kind thoughts and prayers and expressions of sympathy on the loss of my mother. I'm especially touched by hearing from those who don't post in the thread very often :k . And, Whiteling, I'm able to see the picture now - such lovely classical beauty. Thanks.
I'm going to be mostly offline, as I'm trying to keep the phone line open. But the person I'm specifically waiting to hear from is my younger brother, and he might respond by either phone or email, so I have to check the latter occasionally, too, so will try to keep up with the thread when I do.
Mechtild
09-04-2005, 09:20 AM
Thanks, Hilary, for the heads up. I wish I lived in the UK (especially after this week ... :rolleyes: :mad: ... but that's another issue) to have seen it. Thanks Dduon and quicksilver for commenting on the interview, in case it does not become available as a clip later on somewhere. With honeyelf, I really hope it has got saved somewhere. :k
quicksilver, I have to go out, but I look forward to reading that interview you linked when I return.
tg, it's good to see your post. Hang in there! *hug* Your post also alerted me to the fact that somehow I had missed seeing a string of posts, including Wendy's. What a fun time it sounds you had! And, no, I don't think you'll be hanging around waiting to see a celeb at an opening again. :cool: As you point out, it must be a little scary for them, though, when the fans are really beside themselves and looking like maenads.
~ Mechtild
Mariole
09-04-2005, 10:47 AM
((((Tg)))) So good to see you. Be assured that I am sending you continuous good thoughts and virtual hugs. :k
( although, personally, I would prefer to meet him at a friend's private house party, myself, with the opportunity to really natter with him at length, and get to know him away from all the limelight.....but then that's just me !! )
Yes, I'm sorry to say, this might not be a unique (or even very unique) ;) hankering on your part. Were you to arrange such a thing, I think you would find yourself immediately surrounded by 72 of your closest friends. Just so long as we can hear the giggle in the back row! :p
Alas, Tg, 'very unique' was already in common usage back when I went to school, and we actually learned grammar then. I continue to be amazed at the number of Americans who have not only failed to master their native tongue, but seem only glancingly familiar with it. :rolleyes: That said, I do misuse words on occasion. But I hope they are words like "consonance" as opposed to "its." :D
Dduon and quicksilver, thank you for your yummy remarks. I hate talk shows, so I actually prefer to read the summary. :p Thank you!
tgshaw
09-04-2005, 11:45 AM
Alas, Tg, 'very unique' was already in common usage back when I went to school, and we actually learned grammar then.
Yes, "very unique" is far from unique -- I just had to joke about EJW using it, though, because he's usually grammar-perfect, so a slip stands out, and two in the same sentence stand out even more. ;) He must have been excited. :p
Since I'm here, having just checked my email again, could I ask those willing to offer a prayer for my younger brother? He's the one who's going to have the hardest time, financially and personally, getting here, and he hasn't checked in with anyone or answered messages for a couple of days. Thanks. (((Faculty))) (((KDers)))
(((TG))) My deepest sympathy on your loss. My Mom would have been 83 today. Each Sept. 4th since her passing(6yrs ago) I reflect on all the funny little things she did....(she could mangle the English language better than Alex in EiI)....her love for movies and good books...and the way she could make friends with everyone she met(this woman would strike up a conversation with everyone she encountered!)...and I find, as the years go by, the memories of the trips we took ,and all the happy times we had together, bring me more comfort than tears.
May you remember the good times you shared and celebrate a life well lived.
Know that your friends here keep you in their thoughts and prayers :z:
With much Love :k
Candy...AKA Ylla
Brummie
09-04-2005, 12:38 PM
Tg, I'll remember you and your brother in my prayers.
I recorded the Heaven and Earth interview, but sound only, I am sorry to say, because he did look gorgeous and his face absolutely lit up when Emma B (ex Spice Girl, right?) mentioned his mother. The sound quality is not brilliant but I have posted it at
http://www.sendmefile.com/00070051
if anyone wants to listen before someone else puts up a video clip.
peaceweaver
09-04-2005, 02:07 PM
(((((tg))))) My best wishes to you and your family.
saile
09-04-2005, 02:13 PM
Oh BRUMMIE, thanks for the audio. :k
saile
And (((tg))) keeping you and your family in my foremost thoughts.
zkgrumpy
09-04-2005, 03:25 PM
Drive-by posting...
Looks like things have picked up where The Lad is concerned - interviews, movies finally coming out, etc.
TG, sorry about your mom.
All is well with me so far. Long story.
If I'm up to checking posts today, I'll hopefully be around more often.
Katrina aftermath, as I'm sure we all saw vividly, was worse than anyone could have imagined. It looks like things are finally getting resolved there with getting people out and helped.
~grumpy
Brummie
09-04-2005, 05:19 PM
Full Heaven and Earth video over at
http://www.livejournal.com/community/elijah_daily/
Mechtild
09-04-2005, 06:27 PM
tg, I put in a prayer for your brother (I stink at intercessory prayer, but God is not supposed to be picky about those things). I hope you hear from him soon. :z:
Brummie, I followed your link and, with difficulty*, watched the Heaven and Earth interview. (*It stopped constantly, so that I had to keep waiting for it and jogging it along with the FF button.)
Mariole, if ever you watch an EW interview on a "talk show", this is the one to watch. Yes, he was "lovely" in it, but he always is, to some degree. But he was asked really good questions this time, and I think he warmed to that.
Brummie, I will listen to your audio version tonight. My "stop-and-start" viewing cut out a few things. Thanks so much! :k
~ Mechtild
Shelbyshire
09-04-2005, 09:22 PM
Mechtild, if ever you watch an EW interview on a "talk show", this is the one to watch.
:) Excellent interview. It felt very personal yet professional at the same time. Personal, because he talked quite a bit about his family and professional, well, because he can be very much that. Of course, the look to the camera and smile at the end was the best part. ;)
Achila
09-04-2005, 11:04 PM
All my love, TG. I hope you and your family find peace very soon. :k
Achila -- Elijah on The View? Don't know if anyone remembers, but during one of Elijah's rounds on the talk show circuit I picked this as the one show I'd most like to see him on. The "regulars" are all women, and when they have a male guest they love to rake him over the coals -- in a good-natured way. I just have this image of Lij's cheeks being squeezed and him being fussed over -- of course, we'll soon see, but I can't imagine them raking him over the coals!
SandCastles
09-04-2005, 11:42 PM
Dropping in to make an announcement:
If you are attending the LOTR Exhibition at any time during October please visit the LOTR Exhibit 2005 US Hoot thread ASAP. A VERY important notice has been posted there (Post #118).
(Even if the notice doesn't apply directly to you, you may know someone who is affected. Please spread the word.)
SandCastles
Fast Toadfoot
09-04-2005, 11:57 PM
Hi! I'm new to the site. I've been reading occasionally for awhile, i'm a big Lij fan, and i've been talking to HoneyElf on e-mail for awhile. Figured I'd come along and introduce myself and start posting! I"m so pumped that she's going to get to go to New York to meet Lij again! Hope to start getting to know everyone and discussing Lij movies and stuff
honeyelf
09-05-2005, 12:00 AM
Hullo, Fast! Welcome! I'm glad you decided to show up! :D
Brummie, thank you for the link to the H&E interview! It's a keeper I think! He's just got such a sweet radiant spirit!
honey!
ceefour
09-05-2005, 12:14 AM
Hello, Faculty! I've been away and computer-less for the past two weeks, but find it amazing how easy it is to fall back into bad habits--like spending the past 4 :eek: hours catching up on all the posts and links.
tg, please accept my condolences.
C4
whiteling
09-05-2005, 04:14 AM
Welcome back, Ceefour and Welcome, Fast :) !
Grumpy, how good to see you! :)
Brummie, thanks so much for the audio and video link to the gorgeous Heaven and Earth interview. I've only listened to it and am about to download the video (must see the smile :D).
Dougie Brimson has updated his site http://www.brimson.net/. Oh dear, he is NOT happy with GSH :eek:. However,
Green Street is still a fine movie and well worth a trip to the local multiplex. The performances are excellent -with Geoff Bell stealing the movie for me as Tommy Hatcher- and it looks brilliant thanks to Alex Buono's skills with a camera and Pat Johnson's choreography.
Sadly, no mention of Elijah's great job at all :(
And sorry for me being thick, but what does he mean with this:
However, one negative consequence of this media success is that over the last few weeks, certain unsavoury rumours surrounding the director Lexi Alexander have resurfaced.
What rumours :confused:? What did I miss?
Then he gives away a few 'inside jokes'. Attention: Nr. 4 is a spoiler! Funny, where the 'GSE' is coming from.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/EII-28.jpg
Uh-uh, I *knew* I forgot something! -- I do hope, Lady Wendy is going to accept extremly belated birthday wishes! :o
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And (((TG))) - I continue to pray for you and your family!
quicksilver
09-05-2005, 07:18 AM
A positive review of GS(H);
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27-1764772,00.html
and another;
http://news.scotsman.com/features.cfm?id=1889392005
mainly focussing on Lexi but which says of Elijah;
Wood is very good as the innocent dragged fists-first into the Green Street Elite run by Charlie Hunnam's charismatic Pete.
whiteling, I wonder if the rumours are the ones about her duping West Ham into allowing filming there?. In the Scotsman article she says its an urban myth. I've seen Elijah blamed for it too in some articles. :mad:
Welcome Fast Toadfoot! :)
Shelbyshire
09-05-2005, 07:47 AM
Welcome to the family, Fast Toadfoot!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/northpromo04.jpg
Pelagia
09-05-2005, 07:51 AM
tg, Im so sorry to hear about your mother. I know what its like to lose someone so unexpectedly. Its especially difficult when the person has been as close to you as she obviously was.
Ive been away for awhile, and am just catching up with all the great stuff that has been on here during the past week: the articles linked by BunnieBugs, Brummie, Skater girl, Mariole, and Achila; Mechtilds essay and other peoples responses; photos from whiteling and others.
saile wrote (regarding Elijah being as we expected overshadowed by Eugene in EII -- in some people's eyes, anyway ;) ): Elijah is just humble enough to willingly be part of an ensemble cast. This goes along with a comment of his that struck me in the Brad Brevet interview: I think one of my favorite things about being an actor is simply to be a part of someone else's vision, to help facilitate a vision for a film. . . . for me sometimes, that simply is a concept that is more gratifying than specifically a type of role or a type of film, it is just to be a part of an interesting artistic vision. I also enjoyed the descriptions of EJWs eyes, in the various articles. Some of these writers seem to be really straining for effect! . . . his surreally luminous pale-blue eyes (The Independent)
. . . his angelic, swimming-pool eyes (Evening Standard)
His eyes, two trembling pale blue menisci . . . (Big Issue) [Trembling??? I know that one eye sometimes wanders a bit, but really. . . .]
Favorite line (for me, as an ex-historian) from the Big Issue article: The Elijah Wood CD collection, as eulogized by many a journalist, is a modern-day wonder, on a par with the Library of Alexandria. Welcome, Fast Toadfoot! If youre an Elijah fan, Im sure youll enjoy it here!
tgshaw
09-05-2005, 09:07 AM
Hullo, hullo (as Bilbo would say) to Fast Toadfoot! Welcome back to ceefour! And Hi to zkg!
Thanks to everyone for all the links. I've read a couple of the articles and will come back for the rest later on.
I got a smile out of this from an article on the just-over lousy summer for the movie studios (read in the hope that it might talk about fall films, which it didn't):
"In an ideal world, people would say `OK, we have to think more creatively, we have to think outside the box and come up with new and different things,'" said Steven Friedlander, head of distribution for Warner Independent Pictures, which released "March of the Penguins."
"But I'm afraid what's going to happen is, we're all going to sit in a room and say `We need more penguin movies.'" So I don't really know what lessons we're going to take out of all this."
Just hope folks don't think Happy Feet is a copycat movie :haha: .
Of course, Warner Independent is also releasing a little thing called EII ;) .
I've just published what I'd gotten ready last week for http://www.frodolivesin.us -- As I say on the what's new page there, I'm sure that when everything's over later this week I'll need some Frodo/EJW therapy, so hope to do some more, including getting Whiteling's latest drawing and a contributed essay posted. I really want to get some non-Frodo screencaps up this month, as October's going to be an all-LotR month in honor of the big 50th anniversary!
Thanks again for everyone's thoughts and prayers. Little brother finally checked in -- he'll be here at the last minute, but at least he's flying and not hitchhiking, which I wouldn't put past him. I'd asked middle brother yesterday if he thought L.B. might have started driving, to which he said, "That car of his wouldn't make it to Utah [from California]... but we are talking about Jerry, aren't we?" I said, "Yeah, and he said he'd get here no matter what." M.B. said, "So for all we know he may be riding his bike." Which just helped us both worry all the better. :rolleyes: Some friends in Fort Dodge have offered to let him stay with them, so at least he won't have to pay for a hotel room. (I'm booked into the guest room at the apartments where my mom was living. Best deal in town at $25/night, a lovely room, and surrounded by people who loved my mom.)
I have two more emails to send, and then I'm going to be good and get offline and into the car for another trip northeast. Will probably be gone about three days. It'll be nice to think of all of you keeping the Lij goodness flowing til I get back. :k
Mariole
09-05-2005, 09:28 AM
Thank you for the update, Tg. I'm sending good thoughts to you and your family. I can't wait to read the newest updates on your site. I so enjoy your essays and remarks. :k *hugs all round*
Welcome, Fast Toadfoot! Good to see you again, Ceefour! Shelbyshire, I love that pic!
Pelagia, that quote you picked out is hilarious!
The Elijah Wood CD collection, as eulogized by many a journalist, is a modern-day wonder, on a par with the Library of Alexandria.
I also so appreciated the one about Elijah's humility. There was another remark about this in one of the GSH articles, about how he decided to set aside his doubts about whether the character was farfetched, and just execute the character the way the script and director wanted him to. This is not to say we don't want him to be an advocate for his characters, but he consistently seems to want to serve the film first, and is able to put his ego on one side. How many other stars can do this? It makes me feel as if he really is the wonderful person we suspected he was. ;)
Achila
09-05-2005, 09:34 AM
Welcome, Fast Toadfoot, to our little corner of the world. I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself here. And welcome back, tg -- glad to see you here :k
Cute pics are beginning to surface of Lij with Liev and Eugene at the Venice Film Festival. Here's one, courtesy of undone27:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/5836060.jpg
Pelagia
09-05-2005, 10:42 AM
From the current issue of Entertainment Weekly: EVERYTHING (ABOUT A POSTER) IS ILLUMINATED
"We tried something different, eye-catching, and surreal," says Warner Independent's Laura Kim of the poster for Everything Is Illuminated (out Sept. 16). Surreal? Sure. But different? The publicity billboard is strikingly similar to HBO's ad from last December for the TV movie The Life and Death of Peter Sellers, from the cottonball clouds to the sunflower that partially obscures the face of a bespectacled hipster-nerd in a monochromatic suit. Perhaps Jonathan Safran Foer (played by Elijah Wood in the screen adaptation of the author's faux-memoir) has a style that's similar to the late Peter Sellers' (portrayed by Geoffrey Rush in the 2004 biopic), but what about the nature elements? Kim points to an Illuminated scene in which Wood's character is in a sunflower field. As for the rest? Says Kim: "There are blue skies in a lot of posters!" The EII poster in question is the one with the sunflower in front of Elijah's mouth. Here's a link to a pic of the Peter Sellers poster:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0352520/ (http://)
Personally, I think the EW writer is stretching things. (Also, I'm not so sure that Jonathan can be described as a "hipster"!) Although I must admit that, after reading this, the reference to Sellers' character in Being There (in one of the articles linked here several days ago) gave me a bit of a turn!
Now off to undone27's LJ to check for other pix -- thanks for the alert, Achila!
Achila
09-05-2005, 10:50 AM
Actually, as of the last check, undone didn't have a lot more photos -- check abacapress, wireimage, etc. Also, the LJs of lilithlotr and primula_baggins.
I laugh every time I see the mention of that sunflower photo -- that's Eugene (Alex), not Elijah.
And it's interesting that EW noticed the parallel with the Peter Sellers movie, in light of Elijah's comments about Chauncy Gardiner.
Mechtild
09-05-2005, 10:59 AM
I haven't caught up on this last flurry of posts and links, but Whiteling, did you notice this paragraph in Dougie Brimson's piece on GSH....(my emphases)?
On a more personal note, I would like to thank all the people who have taken the trouble to mail me recently especially TxTac and the ladies who attended the premieres in Edinburgh and London. And in answer to your questions regarding the 'inside jokes' I had sneaked into the original script that have actually made it into the final film, here are a few. Others will remain forever secret!
Could he be speaking of some other TxTac and some other group of ladies...? Should I go ahead and squee or not?
~ Mechtild
Pelagia
09-05-2005, 11:14 AM
Achila wrote: I laugh every time I see the mention of that sunflower photo -- that's Eugene (Alex), not Elijah. No, the EW article is talking about (and showing) the poster -- which is definitely Elijah -- not the photo of the sunflower field. (Maybe I've misinterpreted your comment.) Thanks for the other LJ suggestions, BTW. (More time to "waste" on my computer. . . .)
EDIT: Just found the following in the NY Times online. Not much new, except the claim that it was the violence that made US distributors wary. (Hard to believe, IMHO.) No mention of the fans' support for this film, however!! :mad: DIRECTOR/HOOLIGAN
By Christian Moerk
Published: September 4, 2005
When a film with a challenging topic is turned down by Hollywood studios for distribution, its producers and filmmakers usually bite their lips and walk away. But not when it's directed by a former soccer hooligan.
"Green Street Hooligans," starring Elijah Wood as a wayward American in the world of violent British soccer fans, was screened at the TriBeCa Film Festival last April, and things looked grim. Film executives were shocked by the realistic punch-ups and subsequently passed on the movie. The producers Gigi Pritzker and Deborah Del Prete hit back, and are now distributing the film in the United States themselves. It opens in New York and other cities on Friday. "I had somebody tell me from a studio it's the actual hand-to-hand violence that's too close up," Ms. Del Prete said. "I mean, 'Sin City' was the most violent film I've seen all year."
The film was directed by Lexi Alexander, who as a teenager was a member of a tough German fan group called the Mannheim City Boys. Ms. Alexander stopped short of denouncing the violence that is an integral part of being part of a "firm," as the gangs are called.
"I used to say, 'Why can't we just let these guys do what they want to do?' " she said of an earlier time when she felt the behavior would regulate itself and not harm outsiders. Today, she said, she has revised her opinion, if only slightly. "Because people overstep the line," she said. "It's like an addiction, and is there something wrong with this addiction?"
"In my film, I portrayed all these boys as the guys I grew up with," Ms. Alexander said. "I'd feel safer around these people than around anyone in Hollywood." Her next movie features another kind of conflict. "Life 'n' Lyrics" pits a team of North London D.J.'s against a team from South London. "It's about two crews battling each other," she said with a chuckle. "And they work it out onstage."
whiteling
09-05-2005, 11:14 AM
Could he be speaking of some other TxTac and some other group of ladies...? Should I go ahead and squee or not?
Yep, Mechtild, I've seen that bit. Hmmm... I think, it is 'our' TxTac's turn to answer your question. The 'group of ladies' I think refers to a group of LJ ladies (they crowed the first row at the premiere :p), who had done a great deal of support for the film, and Lexi had herself photographed with them. I don't know the details, but at edin_hooligans in LJ land you should find some information.
ETA: Apologies, if that has already been posted - here (http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2677770?htv=12&htv=12&htv=12&htv=12&htv=12&htv=12) you find an interview clip in which Elijah talks on Jonathan. (Clips with Liev and Eugene as well)
Achila
09-05-2005, 11:44 AM
Achila wrote: No, the EW article is talking about (and showing) the poster -- which is definitely Elijah -- not the photo of the sunflower field. (Maybe I've misinterpreted your comment.) Thanks for the other LJ suggestions, BTW. (More time to "waste" on my computer. . . .)However, this:
Kim points to an Illuminated scene in which Wood's character is in a sunflower field. As for the rest? Says Kim: "There are blue skies in a lot of posters!"
sounds like that pic of Eugene walking towards the house to me.
Just had to squee a little tho. The venerable New York Times, this past Sunday, had 3 mentions of Elijah in it in the Arts and Leisure section -- a little article about Lexi and Hooligans, an ad for GSH (which opens in NYC this Friday) and, in the article about Ang Lee, a picture of Elijah kissing Christina Ricci from The Ice Storm. :cool:
THANK YOU ,THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE
LINK TO THAT HEAVEN INTERWIEW!!!! :k :k
HE WAS VERY GOOD IN IT AND HE LOOKS GOURHES AS ALWAYES!!!!!
:k :k :k
SWOONING ME?? NAHHH!!! :D :p
I NEVER STOP SWOONING FOR THIS MAN!! :k :D :p :lol:
A WARM WELCOM TO FAST !!!!
YOU WILL LOVE IT HERE I PROMISE YOU!!!! :k
LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD
Mechtild
09-05-2005, 03:46 PM
Thanks for that info., Whiteling. TxTac, where are you? *puts fingers in mouth and whistles*
Hiya, wood! :k (And thanks for role-modelling; I am forgetting my manners.)
Hi, Fast Toadfoot! Welcome. I'm a lurker, mostly, but I've been having a posting fit recently.
Ahem. Just to let those of you who are always waiting for me to be a "fully converted" Elijah fan ("I accept Elijah Wood as my personal Object of Swoondom" ;) ), I watched the Heaven and Earth interview clip again today (MUCH better connection; no skips and stops this time). If I watch it one more time, I may have to pull up stakes and move to Hugs Haven. Shees, but he's a total doll in that -- to look at and (if it is possible) even more as a person.
~ Mechtild
Morning all!! :k
Well,Mechtild maybe there is hope for you then
to become a real Elijah fan!! :k :lol:
Ylla miss you!! :k
((((hugs to all))))
LOVE YOU ALL WOOD
Alyon
09-05-2005, 11:28 PM
Ah, yes, once we get Mech, she will be undyingly loyal. Is that a word?? The undyingly part? I can't see straight tonight and don't mind me if I start picking words out of the air.
Welcome and bows, Fast Toadfoot. Glad you are with us.
Honey, can you channel all of us while you are in NY? I mean, can you bring some special listening device with you that you can hook up to your computer and give us some remote live feed while you are at the premeire and festivities? It needn't be too obvious. Hide it in some giant orchid, or something. On the front of your dress. Yes, please ;)
*sigh* I can't see Heaven and Earth. Couldn't even get the audio as it was a two hour or such download and other people wanted to use the computer. But I love to hear how beautiful it was/is :)
TG--glad to hear you have tabs on your brother. Best wishes, always, but especially for these next few days.
Pelagia
09-06-2005, 06:22 AM
Mechtild wrote: Just to let those of you who are always waiting for me to be a "fully converted" Elijah fan ("I accept Elijah Wood as my personal Object of Swoondom" ). . . :lol: :lol: I watched the Heaven and Earth interview clip again today (MUCH better connection; no skips and stops this time). If I watch it one more time, I may have to pull up stakes and move to Hugs Haven. Shees, but he's a total doll in that -- to look at and (if it is possible) even more as a person. Gotcha, didn't he? He has a way of doing that, in interviews that you can see instead of just read. It's a good thing that he's apparently such a nice person, because with all that charm, he could get away with murder!
Achila, I assumed that Laura Kim was referring to the sunflower-field scene in the actual movie, which presumably includes Jonathan as well as Alex. Since Kim is involved with the publicity for the film, I figure that she's seen it. As we will be doing, in not too many days!
whiteling
09-06-2005, 08:11 AM
It's a good thing that he's apparently such a nice person, because with all that charm, he could get away with murder!
... says the woman who got to know Elijah as McPhee first and thought him a nasty little toad ;) :k.
From imdb:
Dennis-67, USA wrote:
I just saw "Everything is Illuminated" at the Telluride Film Festival. This is a truly remarkable film. Very emotional, funny at times and heart-warming. Bring your handkerchiefs! For those of you who enjoy a movie that brings tears to your eyes, I'm reminded of the endings of "Babette's Feast" and "The Notebook." The stories were completely different but had that same emotional power to bring tears to my eyes, just as this film did.(...)
The dialog is in English and Ukrainian (and Russian too, I believe). This allows for some wonderfully linguistically-based moments as one character interprets, more or less faithfully, for the English speaker in the group, depending on the circumstances.
The scenery is wonderful and the musical score is a treat with wonderful Eastern European influences. Be sure you stay through the credits for the final tune.
This is Lieve Schreiber's directorial debut and is well done. I give this film a 9, one of the best films I've seen in a long time. I recommend it highly.
Lucky Americans! I can't wait to see this film. (I have no idea when this film will hit our cinemas :( - hopefully not too long after the UK release... December? Oh no, it seems ages away!)
Achila
09-06-2005, 09:22 AM
The Hollywood Reporter
By Anne Thompson
TELLURIDE, Colorado --
Liev Schreiber, the New York theater and film actor, searched for his
roots while filming his directorial debut, "Everything Is Illuminated"
in contemporary Odessa and the countryside outside of Prague. His
adaptation of Jonathan Safran Foer's 2001 novel stars Elijah Wood as a
young man trying to find his grandfather's Ukrainian village. Former
Soviet screen star Boris Leskin and Ukrainian-born New York musician
Eugene Hutz play his tour guides. "They both learned Ukrainian for the
part," Schreiber said. "That's more than you could ask."
Raised in the Eastern European film tradition by his family, Schreiber
brings the absurdist humor and rhythms of the films of Milos Forman,
Dusan Makavejev and Emir Kusturica to the movie. Speaking by the phone
from the Venice International Film Festival where the film received a
20-minute ovation, Schreiber said, "I had wanted so much to make this
a European film. Jonathan and I compared stories of our grandfathers.
I wanted to show their survivors' sense of humor: If you believe your
life is excrement then you either drown in it or transcend it with
irony. That's a distinct Eastern European trait."
txtac
09-06-2005, 10:43 AM
Mechtild wrote:TxTac, where are you? *puts fingers in mouth and whistles*
Coooommmmiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnggggggggggg! (I hope that that was a dog whistle!) :p
Been busy lately. Lots to get caught up on. Yes, that was me Dougie was talking about. There are several pictures of "the ladies" on line that Dougie was refering to. See if you can recognize any of them.
Concerning the deaths of loved ones- they are in a better place now. so be happy for them. Do not mourn their loss for they are not lost. We will all see them again when the curtains of silvered glass roll back and we see the white shores with green fields...
Hey Toad!
Achila
09-06-2005, 11:17 AM
Actor Wood says farewell to Frodo By Bob Tourtellotte
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - For most actors, having two of their films opening within a week of each other could spell career suicide, but for Elijah Wood, who played Frodo in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, it is a stroke of good fortune.
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The roles he plays in "Green St. Hooligans" and "Everything is Illuminated" are vastly different, and Wood, 24, wants his fans to see him as something other than forthright ring-bearing, pointy-ear, fat-footed Hobbit Frodo.
"It's actually kind of awesome to have two very different films and two very different characters come out in close proximity. I'm more excited than fearful," he told Reuters.
Typically, actors want to see their films spread months apart so fans don't get overwhelmed by their work, diluting the star's marquee value.
But Wood's problem is different. With the "Rings" trilogy, a $2.9 billion global box office behemoth, still present in moviegoer minds, Wood knows he needs to change fans' perception of him. He doesn't want to be Frodo forever.
Plus, said Wood, it's not fun playing the same roles over and over.
"My philosophy has always been to try to put myself into roles and films that are different," he said. "That intensified after 'Lord of the Rings' because it was so massive, but it's something I've always believed in -- wanting to change people's perceptions and challenge myself as an actor."
Since 2003's final installment in the fantasy trilogy, Wood has portrayed a sleazy lab technician in "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" and a serial killer in "Sin City."
CONTRASTING ROLES
In "Green Street," which opens in major U.S. cities and the United Kingdom on Friday, the baby-faced actor with piercing blue eyes learns to fight with his fists when he takes up with a group of soccer hooligans in London.
His character, Matt Buckner, gets expelled from Harvard for something he didn't do, but instead of challenging the school, he runs off to England. Once there, Buckner befriends members of a football gang and eventually learns to stand up for himself in bloody street fights.
In "Illuminated," directed by Liev Schreiber and opening in limited U.S. release on September 16, Wood plays a geeky American on a journey to discover his Jewish roots in Ukraine, from which his grandfather fled during the Nazi occupation.
His character Jonathan wears a black suit, tie and thick glasses. He talks little and expresses himself mostly through facial gestures. Where Matt Buckner would use his fists, Jonathan might pass judgment with a blink and furrowed brow.
In an interview, Schreiber told Reuters he was never concerned that Wood would have trouble transcending the Frodo role and slip into the suit of Jonathan.
"It didn't bother me at all," he said.
Schreiber called Jonathan "vulnerable, open-hearted, flawed and someone who was unsure and lost." He said Wood was more than capable of putting those elements in Jonathan, and added he couldn't think of any actor with more expressive eyes.
In both "Green Street" and "Illuminated," Wood's characters start their respective journeys as timid people and end up gaining confidence and a better understanding of themselves.
In real life, Wood, who was born in Iowa, comes across as neither a tough guy like Matt Buckner nor a geek like Jonathan. He calls himself "confident and strong."
"I know who I am and I know where I belong," he said -- out of the Hobbit's shire and on movie screens in ever diverse roles.
txtac
09-06-2005, 01:44 PM
Does anyone have the complete interview from the Independent?
Elijah Wood: Kicking the hobbit
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article309826.ece
At the bottom of the page it says "Article length 2284 words (approx)"
I am only getting the intro and top paragraph which is no where near the complete interview of 2284 words. In the intro, it says "He tells Craig McLean about his plans to launch a radio station, set up a record label, produce films..." I would really like to read this interview. Does anyone have the complete 2284 words ?
BunnieBugs
09-06-2005, 02:02 PM
They appear to have taken the article down, txtac. I wish I had known that they were going to do that, because I certainly would have saved the article. It was really good! I'm so sorry you didn't get to read it. :(
gia21
09-06-2005, 02:22 PM
I have the article txtac!!
I saved it to my site before they took it down ...
http://ca.geocities.com/gia21ca/WoodKickingtheHobbit.html
Does anyone have the complete interview from the Independent?
Elijah Wood: Kicking the hobbit
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article309826.ece
At the bottom of the page it says "Article length 2284 words (approx)"
I am only getting the intro and top paragraph which is no where near the complete interview of 2284 words. In the intro, it says "He tells Craig McLean about his plans to launch a radio station, set up a record label, produce films..." I would really like to read this interview. Does anyone have the complete 2284 words ?
Mariole
09-06-2005, 02:52 PM
Thank you, gia21! That is one of the best articles about Elijah ever, IMHO. Thank you for saving it!
Thank you gia 21 !!!!! :k :k :k
like mariole sade one of the best articles i have read!!!!!
thank you again!!!
WOOD
txtac
09-06-2005, 04:42 PM
Double Thank You Gia21! :k Consider yourself kissed.
Sharpe's Girl
09-06-2005, 05:59 PM
A short review of EII from AICN, from someone who sounds like he/she is just your average film buff:
"Everything is Illuminated" Directed by Liev Schreiber from Jonathan Safran Foer's novel and starring Elijah Wood. I really didn't know what to expect with this; it played right after "Capote" at the Chuck Jones Cinema so we decided to stay and see it. The write up for the movie mentions a young Jewish man who travels to the Ukraine to discover how his grandfather survived the Nazis. That doesn't sound like too much fun, and yet... it is. It's funny and fascinating and touching and terrific.
Pelagia
09-06-2005, 08:15 PM
Achila A 20-minute ovation for EII in Venice! [Huge sigh of relief, after all the negative press about TMFKAH] My boss is due back from Telluride tomorrow, and I'll be interested to see what she thinks of the movie (if she saw it, which I would expect, since our theater is going to be getting it). Thanks also for the Tourtellotte article. Although I think its time they dropped the baby-faced descriptor, because hes not, anymore, IMHO.
whiteling wrote: ... says the woman who got to know Elijah as McPhee first and thought him a nasty little toad Too true! I still blush to think.
honeyelf! I forget when you're leaving for New York, but have a wonderful time!
Linwë
09-06-2005, 08:30 PM
I was driving home from work tonight and I saw a bus bench ad for GSH!! I did a double take! I tried to take a photo with my cell, but it was across about 5 lanes of traffic from me, so it didn't turn out.
This is bizarre, because I work in City of Industry, CA, which is, as you might guess, an industrial area, all warehouses and factories. The nearest residential areas are almost all Hispanic and immigrant. So odd placement, but I was thrilled to see it.
honeyelf
09-06-2005, 08:34 PM
Wow! So many great Elijah interviews lately that it's hard to keep track of what interesting little tid-bit appeared in which one!
TxTac, congrats on getting a mention from Dougie! How cool! :D
Alyon said: Honey, can you channel all of us while you are in NY? I mean, can you bring some special listening device with you that you can hook up to your computer and give us some remote live feed while you are at the premeire and festivities? It needn't be too obvious. Hide it in some giant orchid, or something. On the front of your dress. Yes, please
Well, what if I get hugged by... somebody? Then my orchid would be all squished! Will you settle for my keen observational skills? I promise I'll do my best to make you all feel like you were there with us!
Did you all know that the Everything is Illuminated sound track is out today? One of my last to dos before I board the plane to NYC (swoon for NYC) is to buy it, and then rip it, and then load it onto my little zen micro!
Love to all of you! Until I return,
honey!
Mechtild
09-06-2005, 09:06 PM
Just a quick question:
What's TMFKAH? I missed the post where it was originally referenced. :)
Alyon said: Honey, can you channel all of us while you are in NY? I mean, can you bring some special listening device with you that you can hook up to your computer and give us some remote live feed while you are at the premeire and festivities? It needn't be too obvious. Hide it in some giant orchid, or something. On the front of your dress. Yes, please ;)
Well, what if I get hugged by... somebody? Then my orchid would be all squished!
Not, "squished." When one's orchid has been crushed by the embrace of Mr. Wood one says it has been pressed, not squished. Squished is for hats or donuts that get sat on; pressed is for kisses, or for roses preserved between the leaves of books of verse. ;) )
Seriously, honey, I can't wait to read the report you bring back, whatever it is. You will make it live for us all, in print. Thanks in advance! :k
~ Mechtild
Linwë
09-06-2005, 09:09 PM
The Movie Formerly Known as Hooligans :D
[QUOTE=Mechtild]Just a quick question:
What's TMFKAH? I missed the post where it was originally referenced. :)
Mechtild
09-06-2005, 10:04 PM
Thanks, Linwë!
ceefour
09-06-2005, 11:10 PM
Where are my manners? :o
Welcome, Fast Toadfoot.
Happy Belated Birthday Wishes to Lady Wendy, SandCastles, and CandyGirl!
Have a wonderful trip, Honeyelf!
Pelagia, couldn't you have fit in your boss's suitcase or carried her luggage or something, and gone with her to Telluride?
Linwe, :cool: !
Achila, gia21, and whiteling, thanks for the articles.
This is from the current issue of Newsweek:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9190574/site/newsweek
C4
Fast Toadfoot
09-07-2005, 01:13 AM
Hullo again! Thank you all so much for the warm
welcome! I haven't been able to get to a computer and
spend any significant time on it since Sunday, when I
first signed in. I have become a huge Elijah Wood fan
by degrees. I saw ROTK many times in the theatres
between December of 2003 and February 2004, and I
started watching other of his movies during that time.
The count now stands at 17, including each LOTR movie,
so 14 plus LOTR. I loved The War, The Faculty, Radio
Flyer, Deep Impact, basically every movie I saw with
him in it. Those were probably my favorites. I loved
All I Want too.
I have been surfing EJW sites since January of 2004,
and keeping my fandom immensely stoked. But this is
the first Elwood community I have joined!!! :)
The more interviews I read and watch and the more I
get to know about him the more I like him. I just
can't wait to see and read more. I loved the
Everything is Illuminated and Green street Trailers.
Eeeeh!
But I suppose I'm getting ahead of myself. My name is
Erik and I work at Wal-Mart in St. Louis, MO, hoping
to return to Webster University to finish an undergrad
degree in Journalism and Political Science. I started
e-mailing Honey, after I met her through the Green
street Hooligans petition, which I found out about
through always.ejwsites.net, another wonderful site.
She and I have been e-mailing since July-ish. I went
to Haiti on a missions trip the first week of August,
and since I got back, it took a little while to get
back in touch with her, and one night when we were
IM-ing, she invited me to join and start posting, and
I said I would love it, since I had been reading for
awhile. I'm so glad I did! Thank you again to everyone
who said hi, I loved the picture that Shelbyshire
posted with her hullo, and I am so sorry to hear about
TG's mother. I will keep you in my prayers.
I can't wait to get to know y'all and start posting
more! Yeah!!! See you soon!
Brummie
09-07-2005, 04:31 AM
Welcome, Fast Toadfoot
I have become a huge Elijah Wood fan by degrees. ....The more interviews I read and watch and the more I get to know about him the more I like him.Yeah. He has this way of creeping up on you and then, suddenly, you're "hook, line and sinkered" as someone on TORN once memorably put it.
Quicksilver, thanks for the links, especially to The Times article. I had read the paper that morning but hadn't looked inside the Football section. It's nice to see that GS is being given some good publicity in the sports section of the paper.
Honeyelf, have a wonderful time in NY. We shall await your report with bated breath.
Achila
09-07-2005, 07:52 AM
Bon voyage, honey -- say hello to my home town for me. Oh, and to Elijah too ;)
The news about Lij playing Iggy Pop has hit AICN -- the fanboys are trashing him on the Talkback. Oh dear. Oh, and this --
While Wood's character comes across as a bit too one-note, with a resulting performance that feels like it, too, had been constrained by one of Jonathan's trusty Ziploc bags, Hutz, lead singer of the gypsy punk rock band Gogol Bordello, reveals a natural comedic ability in his acting debut.
From here: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050907/film_nm/film_everything_dc_2
Apparently, that's the Hollywood Reporter review. *Meh*
Goldenberry
09-07-2005, 09:15 AM
Has it really been a week since I've checked in here? :eek:
tgshaw, I'm so sorry for your loss. Your relationship with your mom sounds truly special. I hope your little brother made it home alright to be with you.
Welcome, Fast Toadfoot! I'm mostly a lurker here, having little to add most of the time except "Me too!" :rolleyes: ;) I've been an Elwood fan since before the first LOTR film came out, and my list of favorite Elijah films is similar to yours. :cool:
Well, TMFKAH opens here in Chicago on Friday, and peaceweaver and I have a date to view it that night. The papers here say that EII opens on Sept. 23, but I'm sure the 'limited release' will include our fair city, so will have to keep my eyes open. There have been large newspaper ads for Green Street Hooligans here for about a week. It's an exciting time to be an Elwood fan. My time of late has been mostly consumed by RL stuff including clogged sewers :eek:, visits with friends :) , and feelings of outrage resulting from the Katrina response :( . But things are getting back on track.
Gia21, thank you so much for saving that wonderful interview, and for posting the link. :)
Honeyelf, have a fantastic visit to NYC, and best wishes for a memorable meet-up with a certain blue-eyed man. :k
Sharpe's Girl
09-07-2005, 11:13 AM
I was watching my tape of last night's The Daily Show this morning while getting ready for work, and guess what I saw a commercial for? Yes, Green Street Hooligans! It was an abbreviated version of the trailer, and it prominently features EW. Excelllent!
Lady Wendy
09-07-2005, 01:36 PM
Sharpe's Girl
guess what I saw a commercial for? Yes, Green Street Hooligans!
You beat me to it with this one !! :D :p :D
I saw the trailer for "Green Street" on Channel 4, half way through their "100 Best Movie Moments" at the weekend...nearly fell out of me chair, I did :eek: ...a TV ad was the last thing I was expecting !!!
To date, I have seen two posters for it on the London Tube, and no less than four telephone box ads around the Ealing area this week...( I guess that phone boxes must be cheap to advertise on, huh ? )
The movie opens here in London on Friday....so I may summon the London Faculty for a trip to the cinema...how about it ladies ? :cool:
Random
09-07-2005, 02:30 PM
Hi all! Welcome, Fast Toadfoot!
TG, I've been at my parents all week and haven't had a chance to send you my thoughts and prayers to you and your family. Reading your posts made me remember to appreciate my mum and dad all I can - tiresome though they can sometimes be. :)
Before The 40 Year Old Virgin at the Odeon yesterday I saw a trailer for GSH. Ah, it's a while since I haven't seen His Heaven and Earthiness on the big screen and it was a real treat. I'm very glad that it's getting a few good reviews from the UK press. However, I'm having trouble finding out where it will be shown near me? Does anyone know if that info is out yet?
Eandme
09-07-2005, 02:43 PM
Just wanted to pop my head in and say Welcome Fast Toadfoot! Hope you will feel right at home here! :)
Achila
09-07-2005, 02:56 PM
Before The 40 Year Old Virgin at the Odeon yesterday I saw a trailer for GSH. Ah, it's a while since I haven't seen His Heaven and Earthiness on the big screen and it was a real treat. I'm very glad that it's getting a few good reviews from the UK press. However, I'm having trouble finding out where it will be shown near me? Does anyone know if that info is out yet?Random, have you checked on the GSH website? Go to greenstreethooligans.com and click on See the Movie.
Mechtild
09-07-2005, 03:12 PM
[I]t's a while since I haven't seen His Heaven and Earthiness on the big screen and it was a real treat.
Ha! :lol: "His Heaven and Earthiness" -- I hadn't heard that one. That was great, Random. Thanks. :)
~ Mechtild
BunnieBugs
09-07-2005, 05:18 PM
"His Heaven and Earthliness"... I'll buy that. :D
Yet another lovely article and interview with TOL here (http://www.backstage.com/backstage/features/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001056232). Such a lovely deluge we've been having. *splashes around in it* :)
Alyon
09-07-2005, 06:13 PM
Wow!! Bunnie!! so many great bits in that Backstage interview you linked to.
He has long been an actor to watch, someone who guarantees a film will have at least one interesting performance
Even as a child, Wood was one of the best actors in film-it's not even fair to qualify this statement by putting him in the "young actor" category. He frequently outshone his adult co-stars
And having just talked about how smart Elijah is in choosing his roles and making career decisions (thus the first two references here):
In person, Wood strikes one as neither wide-eyed innocent nor violent criminal. His directors and co-stars frequently speak of how kind, professional, and-this one pops up time and time again-normal the actor is. "There is no ego with him," Alexander says. "I needed an actor who had the confidence to let this world shine. [To say], 'It's not about me; it's about me being the observer.' And not a lot of young actors have the kind of confidence to understand that their craft sometimes lies in just standing and not putting on a big show."
So many great things...those being just a taste...
Hope Honey is having fun in New York!!
Mechtild
09-07-2005, 07:13 PM
Boy, I echo Alyon, Bunnie. I wrote a post in praise of the article you linked, but it disappeared. It was just GREAT!!!!!!!!!! I posted it in its entirety over at the TORc swoon thread, just in case it should disappear, like the excellent Craig McLean article did (at the Independent Online site -- which Gia 21 so nicely re-supplied! :) ).
How I wish at least one of these new films was coming this way!!!!!!!!!! :(
~ Mechtild
Achila
09-07-2005, 07:52 PM
Conan -- Sept 16
*yay*
ETA -- This, from AICN:
UPDATED: Is that one Hooligan playing Iggy Pop?!?
Harry here, south of Amarillo on my way through the flatest spot on earth to Claude, Texas. Finally picked up a signal and thought I'd add to this. Back during SXSW when I had dinner with Elijah he was talking very enthusiastically about how he was hoping and dreaming that this would be his next part. He was working very hard to get it done. He asked me to not spill it back then, cuz it was a "wing and a prayer" sort of thing. He admitted that this would be the toughest thing he's ever tackled, requiring him to transform from a young Iggy to an older one. Personally I can't wait. As much as Elijah loves films, he actually loves music more. If that's possible.
Linwë
09-07-2005, 08:27 PM
Yesterday was my day for movie ads. I saw an ad for EII twice last night! I'm in Calif., can't remember if it was a local station or a network (don't have cable tv, only regular). I can't even remember what was in it, the big sunflower field, the photo of the grandfather (?), the little blue car ... Guess I better take notes next time. :D
Shelbyshire
09-07-2005, 08:35 PM
Personally I can't wait. :) Neither can I, Harry. Neither can I!
And Achila! :D
Okay, on to a more serious topic...
I've been over at the GSH website literally playing around. And for the life of me (and the other hooligans I can find to follow me), I cannot get past Level One!! How frustrating! :( We keep getting the sh** kicked out of us. I am really terrible at computer games. How are you all doing? Anyone have any success?? High scores???
Alyon
09-07-2005, 09:41 PM
I might have this wrong, so correct me if so. Elijah is supposed to be on The View tomorrow?? TRL on Friday? ---or is that all next week??? And now Conan on the 16th??
:) :) :)
Elijah articulating his acting methods in the Backstage article:
BSW: Speaking of films such as The Good Son, or even Paradise: Those roles required you to go to dark places at a young age. How were you able to achieve that?
Wood: Gosh, I don't know. It's hard to answer questions in reference to when I was younger because I don't really know. I guess I understood about observation and the human condition and the various sides of the human experience. I may not have been able to put it into those eloquent, intellectual terms, but I certainly understood it. I played a lot of roles that weren't necessarily based on life experience; it was based more upon what I observed from life and other people. I guess I always had an innate understanding of the job, which was a character you went to play, and these are the characters' experience, and you sort of make that believable and real.
When asked if he still auditions:
Wood: Oh, sure. I mean, I'm 24, and I have a lot of work behind me, but there are roles that are moving into more adult perceptions that I'm not perceived as being. I'm still in that weird stage of looking really young, not really looking my age. Auditions are generally for when I have to fill a role that people may not necessarily perceive me as being able to do. I haven't auditioned in a while, but, yeah.
asked if he minded auditions..
Wood: It scares the s*** out of me. There's no arrogance associated with it; it's not like I'm above auditioning by any means. My disinterest in it is purely based on my own fear. The auditioning process has always made me nervous; I've never enjoyed it. So I like to avoid it at all costs, if possible. But if there's something I really believe in and am passionate about, I'll do it. Some people have a great perspective about it, like it's a great opportunity to show your talent and try different things. I wish I could look at it like that, like a fun exercise.
Cool news from Harry, Achila!! :D
Nice to see you again Goldenberry!!
I'd love to see those ads/trailers Lady Wendy, Linwe, Random, Sharpe's Girl..how exciting! :D
ETA: There is a long and detailed report from ELF in primula baggins lj. Worth the look, for sure. When asked about his goal in life, Elijah said ..to be the best human being I can be... :D :cool:
saile
09-08-2005, 06:50 AM
So much Elijah news...so little time.......Hard to keep up much less say hello or comment so I'll just say I'm heading to Chicago to see Hooligans SQUEEEEEEEEEEE :D :D :D
later, :k
saile
Achila
09-08-2005, 07:00 AM
...when I had dinner with Elijah he was talking very enthusiastically about how he was hoping and dreaming that this would be his next part. He was working very hard to get it done. He asked me to not spill it back then, cuz it was a "wing and a prayer" sort of thing. You know, this got me thinking. Were we sure that the Ian Curtis "thing" was really about Ian Curtis? I mean, yes, they *are* making a movie about him but isn't it possible that the Iggy film was the role Elijah was trying to get all along? He even grew the hair for it, and kept it until early in 2005.
Hmmmm
Mechtild
09-08-2005, 07:19 AM
Hard to keep up much less say hello or comment so I'll just say I'm heading to Chicago to see Hooligans SQUEEEEEEEEEEE :D :D :D
saile, have a wonderful time! Bring back a report!
P.S. If anyone ever reads that either film are going to play the Twin Cities (St. Paul or Minneapolis, MN), please post it. Thanks! :k
Achila, I just read your quote and your idea. That sounds very interesting. Maybe that was why he hemmed and hawed so when he was asked questions relating him to the Ian Curtis project. But young to old Iggy? That implies a bigger part than a cameo, wouldn't you think? I do think it also implies time spent with a personal trainer (I'm mean that seriously).
Achila
09-08-2005, 08:03 AM
I noticed that a few talkbackers on both AICN and CHUD are saying, "Nah, this HAS to be about the Ian Curtis movie, NOT Iggy," but then, Harry just confirmed it.
And speaking of the AICN talkback, notice what Elijah said in that latest interview about how nasty they were to him on there about getting Frodo ("Kill me now", etc) -- I wonder if he's seen what they're saying about him being Iggy....I hope not, for his sake. :z:
As for how big a part this is, Mech, it sounds to me like the lead. :D
Eandme
09-08-2005, 11:03 AM
this is from here: http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2005/08/3113.cfm
...Another focus of the film is that of Coyne's never ending Christmas
On Mars project. The singer has been shooting the movie for years
and it features appearances by Elijah Wood, Adam Goldberg and all of
the band members, among tons of others.
Have any of you guys heard about this before? :confused:
BunnieBugs
09-08-2005, 11:20 AM
That's actually been in the works for years, EandMe. Elijah had told them that he wanted to be included nearly three years ago, I think, and then when they were finally ready for him, he was too busy to film. Looks like they finally coordinated their schedules and he managed to make his cameo appearance in the film. Who knows when -- or if -- we'll ever see it, though. ;)
Achila
09-08-2005, 11:55 AM
I was under the impression he danced in a costume at one of their shows -- isn't it them who do that?
Narya Celebrian
09-08-2005, 01:10 PM
Sorry for being so quiet - I do read everything, I just don't often have much to contribute. Thanks for all the great links and interviews and thoughts and squeeing and analysis. :k
I just thought I'd let you all know that there is a new thread in the Rivendell forum here about Spirituality in Fantasy - I know there's a couple of Tolkien geeks here who might be interested in checking it out. http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=307930&postcount=1
:) :k
Just finished watching The View...is it just me or did you feel Joy Behar was rude to Elijah? Maybe she thought she was being funny but I thought the whole comment re: his sideburns was really insensitive and frankly... quite rude :mad:
Sorry if that was spoilerish for those of you who haven't watched it yet...just wanted to see if I'm the one who is being overly sensitive here :rolleyes:
BTW .....he is just soooo adorable on this show.. okay who am I kidding.. actually on every show he's adorable :D
hi all!!!!
oh..all you lucky onse who will see or have seen this two movies!!!! :k :k
have no ider when they com to sweden!!!! :( :(
Eandme plzzzzz if you know anything can you help me out!!!! :z: :z: :k :k
edit: am a bit crasy here hiiiii i forgett to say wich movies but i think everbody nows of wich i mean but in case!! i mean GREEN STREET
AND EIII!! :lol: :lol:
WOOD
Mechtild
09-08-2005, 03:13 PM
As for how big a part this is, Mech, it sounds to me like the lead. :D
Hmm, Achila, the lead? Great!
Just finished watching The View...is it just me or did you feel Joy Behar was rude to Elijah? Maybe she thought she was being funny but I thought the whole comment re: his sideburns was really insensitive and frankly... quite rude :mad:
What was The View? Was there a link for it back there that I missed? :)
~ Mechtild
I CAN`T BELIVE IT!!!!!!
A SMALL ARTICEL ABOUT ELIJAH IN A SWEDISH EVENING PAPER!!!!!! :D :D
I will try to translate it!!!!
Elijah Wood playes Iggy Pop in a new movie is the head line!!!!
Frodo becomes Iggy on the white screen.Elijah Wood who played Frodo in The Lord of the ring - movies,next movieprojekt is to play a young Iggy Pop.
- I am completly terrifyed becuse i love him and the music so much.I don`t whant to be the person who rumberling away Iggy ,he says to wenn.com
I hope i got it right!!!!! im not sure about rumberling but almost right!!
Next movie prodjekt ???? what about green street and eiii??? not a word!!!
but i guess you can`t have it all!! :cool:
Iwas just so glade they wrote this little thing about him!!!
They never write about him here !!!!!
WOOD
txtac
09-08-2005, 04:08 PM
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/woods%20sight%20problem
WOOD'S SIGHT PROBLEM
LORD OF THE RINGS star ELIJAH WOOD had to don such thick glasses for his role in new film EVERYTHING IS ILLUMINATED, he was forced to wear reverse strength contact lenses so he could actually see.
Wood, who is himself shortsighted, had to play a character with an even more severe case of myopia, and his central costume piece caused a lot more problems than he'd anticipated.
He says, "We had to figure it out because they were +7 lenses, so they were magnified to the point where looking through it,everything was a massive fish bowl and I couldn't see.
"And I'm actually relatively blind myself. So, we had to get contact lenses that were -10 to offset the balance so that I could actually see. And I could see relatively well.
"But there were a couple of days where we didn't get the contacts properly sorted out and that was kind of complex."
08/09/2005
Achila
09-08-2005, 06:01 PM
Txtac, that was word-for-word what he said on The View today. Funny how Contact Music has a way of doing that!
Sharpe's Girl
09-08-2005, 06:59 PM
Well, the local (Chicago) reviews for GSH are out, and are definitely mixed. The Chicago Tribune gives it 1 1/2 stars (out of 4--ouch!), but Roger Ebert of the Sun-Times (the most prominent movie critic in the States) is apparently giving it 3 1/2 stars (out of 4--excellent!). His review isn't available online yet, but the Tribune's is at http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/movies/mmx-050909-movies-review-hooligans,0,4115338.story?coll=mmx-movies_top_heds
Hobmom
09-08-2005, 07:21 PM
Sharpe's Girl, where did you find out that Roger Ebert was giving GSH 3 1/2 stars?
Achila
09-08-2005, 07:34 PM
This' what's up at Roger Ebert's site right now --
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050908/REVIEWS/50901001/1023
But Rotten Tomatoes shows his review is already available (and it's Fresh). Apparently, Manhola Dargis of the New York Times liked it too (and she hates everything, including Sin City).
So far RT has GSH at 44%. The reviews that are up there right now are extremely polarized -- I didn't really expect anything less.
Sharpe's Girl
09-08-2005, 07:42 PM
Someone over at Oscarwatch is on his mailing list, and apparently they get a preview summary of his ratings for the week's films on Thursday, before the reviews themselves are available. GSH and the Flemish crime thriller Memory of a Killer both got 3 1/2 stars.
saile
09-08-2005, 08:09 PM
What was The View? Was there a link for it back there that I missed? :)~ Mechtild
Hobmom's site (elijahwoodnow.com) has a link to The View (download). (Thanks Hobmom :k ). Who are these Women?????? Don't see much daytime TV so they kind of ahem ..well in cat vernacular..brought up a hairball. Maybe they had an off day. The fellows were very cute and Elijah was "present" and genuine I thought.
yes I am really off.... :lol:
saile
Alyon
09-08-2005, 09:06 PM
Honey just called from NY, sounding quite happy, while on her way to the party to follow the screening of GSH. Elijah was at the movie at the beginning, but not at the end. She said he looked tired. Hopefully he will be at the party she is headed to (or has already gotten to by this point)! She loved movie (again!!), as did the others who attended with her. HOpefully she will check in here soon with party update!! Go, Honey!!! :D :D :cool:
Achila:
You know, this got me thinking. Were we sure that the Ian Curtis "thing" was really about Ian Curtis? I mean, yes, they *are* making a movie about him but isn't it possible that the Iggy film was the role Elijah was trying to get all along? He even grew the hair for it, and kept it until early in 2005.
I wondered, too...
Achila
09-08-2005, 09:06 PM
News alert -- it appears that Elijah's Conan appearance is tomorrow night, according to some sources. You might want to watch to make sure.
honeyelf
09-09-2005, 02:27 AM
Jo Ann was the first of the petition "firm" that I met. She and I had dinner last night, and then walked over to the huge gap left in the 'downtown' area of New York, left by the actions of a few suicidal extremists 4 years ago. We had a nice chat. I must say, Jo is very comfortable in her Elijahmania, wearing a shirt that proclaimed "It's an Elijah Wood thing, you wouldn't understand" for most the today!
I'm an insomniac, so I had a bit of a lie-in this morning while Jo Ann trekked over to Port Authority to meet Gwen as her bus arrived from Ohio. I woke up just in time to watch Liev and Elijah bounce onto the set of "The View," Elijah kissing hands as he went!
Gwen looked exhausted, having only got 2 hours of sleep all night. She was wearing a bright green shirt that said "Elijah" across both back and front, an advertisement for a skate shop, as it turns out. She's very open about her Elijahmania as well.
We popped out of the hotel to grab hot-dogs at one of those little street carts, (perhaps an acquired taste?) and take Gwen over to the WTC site, too.
Back at the hotel room, we just lazed about and got silly waiting for Joanie to show up, which she did at 3:30pm. We headed over to Union Square to eat, and hover around the theater corner. We briefly popped into Forbidden Planet (a comic book store) and the Virgin Megastore. Then we hovered around the theater, watching them set up the barricades, and corral the paparazzi.
The movie was set to start at 7:00pm, but the cast and Lexi hadn't yet arrived when we were herded into the theater at 6:55. They did eventually show up though. We saw Charlie first, but heard Elijah's distinctive laugh.
Deborah del Prete of Odd Lot thanked a lot of people, including the "amazing fans who have been so supportive," which - near as I can figure - means me, you and everyone this little corner of the internet knows! Then she introduced Lexi.
Lexi introduced Terence Jay as their "great antagonist who sets Matt off on his journey." Then she introduced Charlie Hunnam as the man the movies refer to as "Brad Pitt's younger brother," but who she thinks can act circles around Mr. Pitt. (And she'd be right!) Then she introduced Elijah, who sort of bounced/sprinted past us, waving. I cant remember specifically what she said about him. He had a navy vee-neck cardigan on, and ripped jeans, sort of a school boy look I thought. He waved at everyone, then sat in some woman's lap, kissing her head, then leaned backwards to hug the man next to her. Don't know who they were.
The movie is great, and we all four liked it. Two of us had seen it before.
After the film, we left the theater. There was no Q&A. Right away we found Charlie Hunnam out there, and congratulated him. I had the other ladies take a pic of me with him.
Then we went downstairs and found Lexi at the bottom of the escalator. "I remember you!" she said, hugging me(!) She and Deborah del Prete thanked us profusely.
Terence Jay was there with Deborah, and he remembered me too. He was wearing something amazing again, but more of that later.
Charlie Hunnam is a doll! He's very sweet and friendly. When we got out of the taxi, the limo he and Terence Jay, Lexi Alexander and Deborah del Prete were in pulled up right behind us. He smelled Gwen and Jo Ann smoking clove ciggies, and came over to us. "Excuse me, are you smoking cloves?" he asked them. When they answered in the affirmative, he swapped one of his cigigies for one of Gwen's, and stood there smoking with them. I stood there trying not to breath (non-smoker that I am). He told them they were smoking the same brand Elijah smokes. They were nearly convincing when they said, "Oh, really?" But he took another 2 or 3 pics with the 4 of us, and Lexi. He had the most amazing haircut, something to do with the movie he's currently filming. So I asked him if I could touch it, and he said 'Yeah! Get in there!" So there I was petting charlie's head! LOL Very sweet guy. He asked about how we came to do the petitions, and we gave him a brief history. I had him sign my GSH wrist cuff, which he did right on my wrist!
I've just remembered a funny little exchange we had with Charlie. Whilst I was petting his oddly coiffed head, one of the other petitions ladies asked him about the movie that he was working on. He said that he was playing a bad guy, I think. Jo Ann said that she'd seen him in Cold Mountain, and loved that film. And then I said that I'd recently seen him in Nicholas Nickleby and cried like a baby! "Yes, well, that's about as good as it gets, isn't it?" He said cryptically; then clarifying his meaning, he added "I had to play three bad-guys in a row to offset that one! This movie I'm doing now is the last of them, then I can go back to playing a good guy!" We laughed at that.
One of us, maybe Jo Ann again, asked where he was living now, and he said Los Angeles. He was 18 when he was in Queer as Folk in the UK. He said he got a lot of flack for it, people shouting "fag!" at him in the street, and guys threatening him too. He said he was 19 when he finally decided to come to the states, where there is more tolerance. Just to clarify, Charlie's straight by all accounts, and all these threats were against him for a character he was playing! Unbelievable!
Then we went in to the party. Dark. Loud. I navigated my way to the bar and was waiting for a glass of chardonnay when Terence Jay walked up next to me. He was wearing this gorgeous red velvet jacket with large orange lilies embroidered on it, and i asked him about it. It was Gucci, so I guess I won't be ordering one! ;-) Then I asked him to sign my cuff too. He thougth it would really be best if I took it off, so I did. He was a sweety too.
We'd arrived at the party at 10:15ish. The two smokers kept dissapearing, and leaving me to myself. Finally I followed them back to the smoking porch just for someplace to go, and Terence Jay was back there.
Jo Ann has the elvish nine tattooed just above her right breast, and she's not shy about showing it to anyone. She'd been showing it to Terence Jay, and a couple of other guy party attendees as well. So they'd been out having an impromptu tattoo viewing all round, it seems.
So when I got out there she told me that Terence had a new tattoo, and he volunteered to show it to me. He took off that gorgeous jacket, and I got to hold it (minor squee for Terence Jay's jacket.) He pushed up his sleeve and showed me this huge tattoo that took up most of his inner arm from the elbow down. It said ONE BLOOD, and there was a cross the size of my hand there too. Then he took the jacket back, after the tattoo had been sufficiently admired.
About mid-night Joanie needed to make a call, so I headed in after her just to get out of the noxious smoking fumes. I was standing there holding up the wall, waiting for her when she popped around with a huge grin, gesturing toward the front door, and pulling me after her. We went around to the entry hall, and there was Elijah headed in before us. he was wearing a striped shirt, untucked with the sleeves rolled up, and worn denim. I'm told he was wearing the scuffed boots, but I didn't get a good look. He had a leather messenger bag over his shoulder. Wonder what he carries in that thing, that he needed it at midnight? Anyhow, we followed him back into the back room, where he got immediatley sucked into the crowd. Joanie and I went to retrieve Jo Ann and Gwen from smoker's purgatory, and we went back inside. Some guy had Elijah's ear, and we kind of stood there watching them talk, wondering what next. Joanie got Sarah's attention (she's an Odd Lot person), and then Deborah del Prete's, hoping that one of then would introduce us to Eljjah. But it was such a crush, and it was so loud and dark, and there were people all around vying for their attention.
Pamela was with him, and they are very decidely a couple. Joanie talked to her a little bit, and pronounced her "very sweet."
Finally Joanie just tapped Elijah on the shoulder, and kind of pointed him at us, saying that we were the "petition ladies." Elijah introduced himself to each of us, saying "Hi, I'm Elijah," he told us each in turn, shaking our hands. No shinola, Sherlock! We kinda noticed! :lol: And "thank you" got uttered somewhere in there, too. Then he sat down, and Joanie sat next to him asking him to sign a couple things. I was on the end of the bench, so when she got done I tugged Jo Ann over to fill the gap, and she had him sign stuff, and showed him her tattoo. I could make out the words "wow" and "amazing." Then I pulled Gwennie in to fill the gap, and she had him sign some stuff. Then it was my turn. I scooted over close, and for some bizarre reason put my hand on his thigh very briefly, and then on his arm while I talked in his ear, asking him to sign my cuff like the Charlie and Terence had, and he said "Oh, sure!" and took my arm and signed it. I don't remember much, but his hands were soft and warm.
And that's my story! Elijah was very gracious, and accomodating, but rather subdued I guess. Not as outgoing as Charlie, but it was very late, and he did look tired, but very gorgeous.
Lots of pics to share soon as I get 'em developed!
Love to you all,
honey!
whiteling
09-09-2005, 05:10 AM
Oh, Honey, thanks so much for your wonderful story! :k You made my day. :)
Hah, you were petting Charlie Hunnam's hair :cool: (Seeing him in Edinburgh for about 5 minutes at the red carpet and later at the Q&A, I got the same impression: he's a really nice guy) and Lexi recognised you, how great! I was :lol: over "Hi, I'm Elijah" - classical sweet Elwood :D :k
(Congrats on 800 posts, Honey!!)
*waves to Wood* :k
Random
09-09-2005, 08:22 AM
Eberts review is now up:
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050908/REVIEWS/50901001/1023
It is currently 57 at metacritic, rather better than the rottentomatoes score, and there are a few nice reviews there.
Achila thanks for the headsup! Ive now found out that my local cinema is indeed showing GSH so I may be geekish and head off on my lonesome this weekend (Mr Random is in Wales).
And thanks for my second green lozenge (if thats what theyre called).
Heaven and Earthiness heh. I remember someone or other ages ago describing wonderfully how EWs portrayal of Frodo was both very heavenly and very earthy (only they said it a bit better than I did). It reminds me of a phrase from that old carol, There Is No Rose of Sych Virtu (For in this rose contained was Heaven and earth in lytle space,)
apologies for the blasphemy!
Goldenberry
09-09-2005, 08:23 AM
Saile has already mentioned the Chicago Tribune's 1 1/2 star review of GSH (ouch!). The review is essentially a rant about the violence, and the reviewer's lack of understanding of the attraction the violence has for the protagonists. Ah well. The only real mention of Elijah notes that "his eyes see more than yours do". At least he didn't trash our lad!
At the end of the review, there is a comment that the reviewer saw it earlier in the week...must have been at the Tuesday benefit screening...and notes that "Wood was in attendance" :eek: :eek: :eek:
It never, ever occurred to me that he might actually travel to Chicago for that screening. :( :rolleyes: Wasn't he just in Venice? He does get around, doesn't he!
No wonder he looked tired in NYC, Honey!
As for 'The View', during LOTR I wished aloud that Elijah would be a guest on that show. But now, those women so annoy me, and the little I've heard from their show yesterday sounds so...superficial and perhaps condescending--that I'm glad I missed it. They're not worthy of him and Liev as their guests! :haha:
I wonder if I'll ever meet Elwood? He was so close, 20 miles away, and I missed him!
ceefour
09-09-2005, 09:00 AM
Thanks for the report, Honeyelf.
The best thing about EW's appearance on 'The View' was the film clip shown of Jonathan arriving at the train station, showing a bit more of the 'Are you my guide?' conversation than the trailer. LS and EW looked relaxed and friendly, but the 'View' women seemed tense. 4 people trying to interview 2 in maybe 5 minutes is not a good format.
C4
txtac
09-09-2005, 09:24 AM
http://shop.newline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_sku=LOTRMCAL06D&referral_id=EMLOTR050907
Guess who's at the top!
Honeyelf: Great report! Thank you!
Linwë
09-09-2005, 09:29 AM
Saw Conan last night (insomia) and he definitely announced Elijah for tonight (Friday night - NBC). Off to work!
quicksilver
09-09-2005, 10:26 AM
Goldie- yes he was in Chicago;
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/custom/redeye/chi-050909hooliganside,1,6785070.story?coll=chi-entertainmentfront-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
The press tour for "Hooligans" brought him to Chicago for the first time last week--surprising for a boy from Cedar Rapids, Iowa--and Wood made sure he got a tour of Wrigley Field and the Metro while in town.
How frustrating for you to have missed him. :(
Here's an amusing brief snippet about Elijah with nothing about Green Street or EII. (well at least not until the very end! :D
http://www.macleans.ca/culture/people/article.jsp?content=20050912_112057_112057
Honey! So glad you got to see the One Lad. :) He mentions the petition in the first link I posted. :cool:
Goldenberry
09-09-2005, 11:24 AM
Quicksilver, after seeing in that Tribune RedEye article that the benefit screening was for "Chicago gang members", I'm less sorry I missed it. ;)
But oh, how fun it would have been to show the boys around Chicago! :p
txtac
09-09-2005, 02:25 PM
Elijah was on the Howard Stern show this morning. Did anyone record it?
Mechtild
09-09-2005, 02:36 PM
Honey, thanks for the full report. You were great to do it. I love it that Lexi remembered you. It was your "glow", I'll bet. :cool:
Random, as soon as I read your "heaven and earth" reference text, "The Ceremony of Carols" started to play in my mind. Now it won't stop. It's turned into a musical loop ... *Alleluia, res miranda,
pares forma, gaudeamus, transeamus ...*
You!!!
Just kidding. :) I love that music, actually. :)
~ Mechtild
Sharpe's Girl
09-09-2005, 03:45 PM
There's an interesting article about one of the heads of Odd Lot and producer of GSH in today's Chicago Sun-Times ( http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-gigi09.html ), Gigi Pritzker. It's funny, in reading all the articles about GSH that mentioned her, it never occurred to me that she was one of THE Pritzkers, a very prominent family here in Chicago as the article discusses (the city's new Millenium Park is anchored by the Pritzker Pavillion, designed by famed architect Frank Gehry).
The relevant paragraph from that story (although the rest of it is interesting, from a "society heiress who's not heiress-y at all" perspective):
[Odd Lot's] highest profile celluloid project to date (they've done six), the Jennifer Lopez vehicle "The Wedding Planner," was, Pritzker claims, "wildly profitable." The critically lauded "Mean Creek," featuring Rory Culkin, came out in 2004. An ultra-violent soccer drama called "Green Street Hooligans," with hobbit-sized Elijah Wood in the lead role of a Harvard-schooled wimp-turned-brute, opens today and could be their biggest hit yet.
ceefour
09-09-2005, 05:34 PM
txtac, I didn't record Howard Stern; I'm not exactly in his demographics! :lol: Is the show on TV the radio show, videotaped? Maybe we could catch it there.
C4
BunnieBugs
09-09-2005, 05:57 PM
People looking for the Howard Stern (radio) interview should check Undone27's LJ -- she has the whole thing available for download, and it's well worth a listen. Howard's show (for those who don't know) tends toward the rude and obnoxious, but Elijah weathers it like the pro he is and fields some interesting questions and gives some even more interesting answers. And Howard et al seem to like him, so that's in his favor, as well.
Undone will also have Elijah's appearances on MTV's TRL and the Conan O'Brien show sometime later (after Conan's show), as well.
Mechtild
09-09-2005, 07:18 PM
Whoah! Bunnie, I know who Howard Stern is, of course, but do you know, I never actually have listened to his show or seen him before. Listening to him, I kept being reminded of Alan Alda in a Woody Allen movie I love called, Crimes and Misdemeanors. I liked Alan Alda in his role in that, which has inclined me to like Howard Stern. So far, that is. (I am only ten minutes in; I had to go serve supper.)
ANYWAY, I wanted to thank you bunches, Bunnie, for the directions to undone's LJ in order to listen to this. :k So far, I am really enjoying the interview. EW hasn't had a chance to say much yet, the other people have been talking so much, but it has had an atmosphere I have not yet heard in any of his interviews. Stern and whoever the people with are with him are not afraid to ask him things -- anything. I suppose that is their "style." They have been tossing off a lot of comments (like the Mark Hamil ones) that others have asked but tip-toed around. Howard and company just plough into it, as if it is no big deal. EW doesn't sound at all perturbed, I must say. Perhaps he is relieved to be asked these things in such a "no big deal" sort of way. The tone on the show is so ... "let's have a beer and yak!" it seems to lower the tension. Or like guys standing around in the line for their inductee physicals for the draft (that's how old I am; remember the draft?), wearing nothing but their shoes and socks, just shooting the sh** while they kill time. Listening, I don't get the idea for a minute that Stern or his fellow-interviewers have any personal or fannish interest in EW at all; they just want to hear what he has to say. Perhaps that is refreshing for him, because there don't seem to be any preconceived expectations for what he should be or seem like -- or be offended by. They are just running him through the gauntlet they would run any other guest through. Or, so it seems.
I just have got into the part where they are asking him very up-front questions about his growing up, especially about his relationship with his father. Again, they are asking him stuff straight up, things that others asked him only obliquely -- and he seems to think it perfectly all right with it. He even seems enthused to "set the record straight."
I know this thread is not supposed to be interested in EW's personal life (although I don't see why not; if one were trying to learn about Maurice Ravel, wouldn't he or she try to learn about Ravel's upbringing and personal life, so as to better understand the things he wrote?), but I wish someone were writing a transcription of this stuff. I have read little snippets in here and elsewhere about these things and here he is, just coming out with it, himself. I think that's very helpful, so that we don't keep repeating a lot of hearsay.
I am going to go listen to the rest now. (It's not my dish night, so I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! )
If the interview goes radically downhill, I will post again and say so.
ETA: Just finished the part where Robin (Robin who? I don't know) is yukking it up about her father the child molester. It's like EW is Alice, having dropped into the Mad Hatter's tea party. He is doing SO WELL!!!!!
ETA again. Shees. Now they are onto his sex life. They're worse than Hans Jensen!! (was that his name -- the fictitious German interviewer Dom Monaghan pretended to be, which wound up as an Easter Egg on RotK?)! But he's really hanging in there (probably from his 'practice interview' with Dom). They just began a section badgering him, "So: when did you start your sex life?" I'm so proud of him, he's doing very well -- rolling with it, yet not feeing compelled to join in for cheap laughs.
ETA for the last time. Well, I finished it. I was impressed. Now I have to figure out how to copy it. They put him through the ringer, but he did very well. And mixed in with all the horsing around was some pretty interesting stuff. Such as the lack of adequate remuneration for LotR, that doing fan conventions is actually lucrative, and that people (the interviewers, the technicians, the call-in people) obviously really, really like Elijah Wood. Also, that he has difficulty crying on cue and needs "outside help."
~ Mechtild
tgshaw
09-09-2005, 09:49 PM
I am sadly, sadly, sadly behind on everything in this thread, but before I lose this from the clipboard I wanted to post it. Bob Denver died today at the age of 70, from complications of cancer treatment. I pulled the following paragraphs from a longer article because they have something to do with recent discussion and/or they make me think of Elijah:
"One thing I can say about Bob and the show is he entertained generations, and everybody approached us and him in particular with love and a smile," said Russell Johnson, who played the egg-headed professor on "Gilligan's Island." "That's a tremendous legacy for someone from Hollywood to leave."
Gilligan may have been his signature role, but when he took the part in 1964 Denver was already widely known to TV audiences for another iconic character, Maynard G. Krebs, the bearded beatnik friend of Dwayne Hickman's Dobie in the "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis," which aired on CBS from 1959 to 1963.
"In all the time I knew Bob, personally and professionally, we never had a harsh word," said Hickman, who added the two remained close friends over the years, even though they were as different in real life as the characters they portrayed.
California state Sen. Sheila James Kuehl, who played Dobie's love-struck pursuer, Zelda Gilroy, remembered Denver as a mentor, both in acting and life. "What he taught me about acting was when you work to make the other person look good, you end up looking good yourself," she said. "What he taught me about life was that you could love your work, but it was really more important to love your friends and family."......
His character was as lovable as he was incompetent, and viewers embraced the skinny goofball kid with the white sailor hat. So did the Minnow's skipper, Jonas Grumby, played by Alan Hale Jr., and who always referred to Gilligan affectionately as "little buddy."
"As silly as it seems to all of us, it has made a difference in a lot of children's lives," Dawn Wells, who played farm girl Mary Ann Summers, once said. "Gilligan is a buffoon that makes mistakes and I cannot tell you how many kids come up and say, `But you loved him anyway.'"......
Born in New Rochelle, N.Y., on Jan 9, 1935, Denver discovered acting while studying law at Loyola University in Los Angeles. While struggling to make it as an actor, he taught private school in Pacific Palisades and worked for a time at a post office.
"What he taught me about acting was when you work to make the other person look good, you end up looking good yourself. What he taught me about life was that you could love your work, but it was really more important to love your friends and family." Sound like anyone we know?
Happy voyage, little buddy.
Fast Toadfoot
09-09-2005, 09:53 PM
That has got to be my favorite line in Elvish.
Hail! Well met friend, a star shines on the hour of our meeting. It's so cool that Frodo gets to say that in Fotr, the book. Honey, I'm so happy to hear you had a great trip to New York!!! Lij is awesome! Maybe i'll get to meet him someday. Fast Toadfoot is short for Fastolph Toadfoot, my name from the hobbit name generator. I told my manager at work, Justin Walker, that his hobbit name is Olo Sandybanks. He gave me a weird look, smiled, and then said "O-kay!" I really like him. it's cool I can say stuff like that to him and he thinks its funny.
The ladies on the View were horrible! Maybe they were just nervous and jittery and taking it out on Lij and Liev, but it was a pretty cheap interview. Lij and Liev did great of course, but the interview left to be desired.
Well looking forward to hearing more about stuff! love y'all
whiteling
09-10-2005, 05:25 AM
Mechtild, your description of the Howard Stern interview made me curious. I will see, if I have time to listen to it (I once saw a little movie tidbit here on tv, with Howard Stern in it... it was called "Private Parts" [how subtle :p], and ahem, found it rather weird). Thanks for your comments. :)
(((TG))) - so good to see you back! :k
I didn't know Bob Denver, but oh yes -
"What he taught me about acting was when you work to make the other person look good, you end up looking good yourself. What he taught me about life was that you could love your work, but it was really more important to love your friends and family." Sound like anyone we know?
Absolutely!
Aaaand....
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, EANDME!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Fly_you_fool.jpg
Elijah skelters to join your party! :k Hug him one more time! ;)
And a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY to VintageHobbit, too :)!
Mechtild
09-10-2005, 07:48 AM
OT to Whiteling:
You are too young to remember Maynard G. Krebs. The "Many Loves of Dobie Gillis" was a TV sitcom from the early 60's. It was rather experiemental for its day; its reflective teenaged hero, Dobie talked directly to the camera, engaging the viewers as his conversation partners. Dobie was supposed to grow up to be a regular guy, working after class in his parent's grocery store. His best friend, who never worked and never actually seemed to have a place to live was Maynard, the town beatnick and wanna-be musician and lover of jazz. There were a number of other regulars, too. In the first shows, the beautiful rich girl was played by Tuesday Weld (a 60's and 70's ingenue in films, playing interesting roles as older women in indies after that) and Warren Beatty did a few early episodes as the snotty rich boy (yes, that Warren Beatty). I remember it as a very funny, very odd, very clever show, but I was a kid, then, so it may be that the show was nothing that special. But I LOVED Maynard. I think I had one of my first little crushes on him. (They could keep Warren Beatty.)
See? I liked cute, unconventional little guys with big eyes who were considered likeable oddball music geeks even back then. ;)
Here are a couple of links I found with some pics and a few paragraphs about his role in the show. There's one that shows him with Dobie and Zelda Gilroy, too (she was the class Miss-Know-it-all, who loved Dobie).
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/lawrence/153/krebsalbum.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/lawrence/153/krebs.html&h=350&w=355&sz=106&tbnid=HNu6ea3olOUJ:&tbnh=115&tbnw=117&hl=en&start=7&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmaynard%2Bg.%2Bkrebs%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bobdenver.com/bob_dwyane.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bobdenver.com/body_maynard_g._krebs.html&h=500&w=347&sz=63&tbnid=4cVReHDyNgkJ:&tbnh=127&tbnw=88&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmaynard%2Bg.%2Bkrebs%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
~ Mechtild
BLOSSOM
09-10-2005, 07:56 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY (http://photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/?action=view¤t=EandMe.gif) EANDME!
Have a lovely day! :)
And if you're lurking, the same to you, VINNIE!
Whiteling - Ha! We both used that Venice photo call clip for Eandme's birthday gifts.
A warm welcome to you, Fast Toadfoot.
Thanks to all for links to recent articles, interviews, video-clips etc. :k
Not much to contribute - as usual - but with a few mixed EII reviews emerging, here's a quote from one I stumbled upon a couple of days ago. It doesn't single out Elijah specifically, but has positive things to say about the cast in general.
Beautifully photographed, visually uncluttered and with light and colour infusing every frame, Schreiber (in able partnership with cinematographer Matthew Libatique) shows a true understanding of what is important in storytelling. Schreibers grasp of pace and, alternately, stillness allows all the sharp wit and profound emotion of the story to emerge. These elements support superb performances from a tightly knit cast that should be required viewing for aspiring actors everywhere.
Jane Schoettle
From here: http://www.e.bell.ca/filmfest/2005/films_description.asp?id=93
whiteling
09-10-2005, 08:28 AM
You are too young to remember Maynard G. Krebs. The "Many Loves of Dobie Gillis" was a TV sitcom from the early 60's.
I feel so *young* all of a sudden :p! But seriously, Mechtild, thank you for this info and the links :k. Not only I wasn't born at the time this series was on tv, according to imdb it was never aired in Germany. The French were more lucky though, they got to see it in 1961.
See? I liked cute, unconventional little guys with big eyes who were considered likeable oddball music geeks even back then.
So your increasing crush on Elijah was inevitable! ;)
Blossom, your gif(t)s are simply amazing! Thank you! :k
And what a wonderful EII review - I'm so looking forward to it. :)
Mechtild
09-10-2005, 09:50 AM
Eandme! It's your birthday????? Happy Birthday! And, Vintage Hobbit, too! :) :) :)
Blossom, thanks for sharing another gif of great charm with the rest of us. Brava!
So your increasing crush on Elijah was inevitable! :p
Well ... "inevitable" seems a little strong. Perhaps there was a "predisposition." :haha:
~ Mechtild
Mariole
09-10-2005, 11:48 AM
Happy Birthday, EandMe!
Happy Birthday, Vinnie!
What lovely quotes, Blossom and Tg! I particularly liked the Bob Denver quote, and this one:
These elements support superb performances from a tightly knit cast that should be required viewing for aspiring actors everywhere.
Go, Elijah!
Mechtild, thank you for that link to Maynard G. Krebs. I didn't know this character either; what an interesting story! But I shall miss dear Bob Denver. *waves farewell*
VintageHobbit
09-10-2005, 02:18 PM
:k
Thanks, Ladies of the Faculty, for remembering my birthday! Yes, I do lurk. :D
Hey, EandMe - we share a birthday! *raises a pint*
Can I share a picture that fills my mind with possibilities? Two charming young men and yards and yards of soft, silky gold rope. :p
The wizard seems to be thinking the same thing I am. :)
http://beastybunny.com/lotr/billy/appearances/NeimanMarcus112603/images/neimanmarcus112603_003.jpg
Thank you dears! - Vinnie
honeyelf
09-10-2005, 03:48 PM
'Lijah and honey!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/006_7A.jpg
back with more later
Mariole
09-10-2005, 03:56 PM
Two charming young men and yards and yards of soft, silky gold rope. :p The wizard seems to be thinking the same thing I am. :)
Vinnie!!! :eek: :D It's good to see you here.
HONEY!!!!
Oh, Eru, I love the expression on your face. :p Wonderful.
Linwë
09-10-2005, 04:34 PM
Oh, boy. I just saw GSH and it was good! I went to "The Grove" in Los Angeles - way out of my neighborhood in the San Gabriel Valley suburbs (Monrovia). It's a huge outdoor shopping mall & entertainment complex. I went to the first showing of the day, 11:10 am, and there were about 20 people in the theater. Elijah was amazing, and I was quite charmed by Charlie Hunnam, whom I've never seen before. Please someone tell me it will come out on DVD, right?
Honey, I love your hair! What a nice photo.
Ohhh Honey you look positively radiant :D
and who could blame you for beaming with that cutie sitting next to you!!!!
How did you manage to put your arm around him without passing out?
I'm not sure I could (without dropping into a dead faint)...of course if I did he might be required to give a little CPR :o because we all know how chivalrous he is(recently witnessed on The View) ;)
Congrats Honey for an honor well deserved...we are ALL real proud of you :k :k :k
Happy Birthday EandMe and Vinnie
now for a birthday present:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/ylla/012da905.jpg
give him a minute to wrap your presents :D
Brummie
09-10-2005, 05:29 PM
Went to see Green Street tonight, by myself as Mr Brummie had been put off by the one star review in The Times :( . There were about a dozen people in the theatre (well, it was the 6.30 showing); hopefully there were more at the 9 o'clock, but the newspaper reviews have been terrible. So I sat there fearing that I was going to be bored, unconvinced or appalled.
Mild spoilers follow
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I need not have worried. Charlie Humman's accent, widely disparaged, did not bother me after the first few lines. The acting was strong and convincing, the plot no more implausible than that of hundreds of other films. The film conveyed excitement of a football match to one who, frankly, generally finds football boring. It demonstrated the attraction and elation of the fight while forcefully making the point that the price paid is too high and that the innocent also suffer. Many of the critics latch on to the fact that Matt grows through the experience and that to show any kind of benefit from the hooligan experience is irresponsible. By the end, Matt has learnt to stand up for himself but, by using his brain, gains a more effective revenge than any violence could have achieved. I found it a powerful film and emerged decidedly shaken despite the slightly upbeat ending.
End spoilers
I need to see it again, firstly to review the first half in knowledge of the revelation halfway through, and, secondly to fully appreciate the tiny nuances of Elijah's facial expressions. :)
Honey, what a great photo. You look like the cat that got the cream :D
Mechtild
09-10-2005, 05:56 PM
Thanks for the review, Brummie. :) I appreciate it som much when you thread members post your reviews. I tend to trust yours more than the professional ones. I sure hope it plays somewhere drivable from here, even now. But I haven't got my hopes up. :(
Honey, you do indeed look radiant. And a little ... intoxicated. Why, I wonder? :D
~ Mechtild
ceefour
09-10-2005, 07:02 PM
My computer is acting strangely, so I want to post this before it implodes.
Happy Birthday, Eandme and VintageHobbit!
Linwe and brummie, thanks for the reviews.
Honeyelf,You look like the cat that got the cream. :D
My thoughts exactly!
tg, love the September additions to your site.
ylla, in a couple of weeks we'll know what all the raves are about.
C4
Pelagia
09-10-2005, 07:43 PM
[Catching up again. . . .]
Happy birthday, Eandme! Hope you have had a colorful day!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/fruitstripe1.jpg
honeyelf, you must have been beside yourself in New York! And that picture of you with Him! I would have been a quivering wreck. I esp. liked the following: Then she introduced Elijah, who sort of bounced/sprinted past us, waving. I cant remember specifically what she said about him. He had a navy vee-neck cardigan on, and ripped jeans, sort of a school boy look I thought. He waved at everyone, then sat in some woman's lap, kissing her head, then leaned backwards to hug the man next to her. I can just envision him doing this!
BTW, how can one acquire a shirt that proclaimed "It's an Elijah Wood thing, you wouldn't understand" ??? Or do you have to have one made up specially?
BunnieBugs: Thanks for the wonderful article about/interview with Elijah from Backstage. Once again, his intelligence and articulateness (is that a word?) are just so impressive as is his modesty. Note how he even backs away from the idea of himself as the star of EII, and presents it as yet another of his ensemble pieces.
Mechtild: Thank you for the report on the Howard Stern interview. Listening to HS in order to hear TOL is truly the sign of a devoted fan!
Hurrah for Roger Ebert, who gets TMFKAH! And so (pretty well) did the UK film magazine Total Film, which gives it 3 stars (Good) out of 5. A few excerpts (if one of our UK members has already reported this, I apologize; I dont remember seeing it): Elijah Woods wide-eyed tourist is our guide to this sickening subculture, at first standing on the edge of the scuffles and then transforming from tarnished all-American golden boy to haymaker-throwing nutter. Watching him dive headlong into the melee is like a drop kick to the cojones. . . .
The fact that it comes as a thrilling rush is to Alexanders credit: far from glamorising the brutality, as the Daily Mail will not doubt claim, she implicates us in it. And while Green Street ultimately refuses to spoon-feed a message, it sure as hell doesnt flinch from showing how thuggery leads inevitably to destruction not just for those living it but for their families, too. . . .
But this isnt a film about footie in the same way an office romance isnt about the office; its about loyalty and friendship, albeit expressed in a twisted, polluted way. Football is attached to hooliganism because its convenient. Green Street understands this and wants everyone else to, too.
Elijah Wood struggles as a Jekyll and Hyde hooligan [Pelagia says, Hisssssss] but this is a skull-cracking glimpse at a dangerous and addictive underworld. There is also a shot of Matt and Pete walking down the street, with the caption: Frodos new bodyguard was a thinner, snappier-dressed and better looking version of Sam. :haha: Meanwhile, the October issue of Premiere magazine gives EII 3 stars (Its so money) out of 4. The (brief) review describes Jonathan as . . . played with eerie wide-eyedness by Elijah Wood. . . . The critic thinks Eugene is very funny, and finishes up with I have misgivings about Schreibers use of the well-worn Ill make you empathize with these Others, but first lets have laughs at their expense approach, but eventually I was won over by his humane, moving road trip. ceefour: Unfortunately, no report from my boss on EII at Telluride. Since its already booked to come to our theater, she didnt bother to go see it! But she said that she heard it was well received by audiences at the festival.
SleeplessMarea
09-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Mechtild - Was tickled to encounter your reference to "Ceremony of Carols". Benjamin Britten, right? I've sung the piece at two different points in my life and do still find the music popping into mind at the oddest appropriate moments, as apparently happens with you!
Honey - I'm SOOOO happy for you I can't even find quite the words to express it and not sound either trite or terribly envious. But I can't think of a nicer, more worthy person to get to meet our Mr. W. ... and I somehow can't give up on the idea that only nice and worthy people should get to meet him! Unless you managed to substitute someone else's face for your own surely you realize by now that you are yourself quite beautiful. In the chance that you don't own a mirror and have no honest friends, let me assure you that it is the sum of the TWO of you together that makes for such an AMAZINGLY attractive picture!
Seeing as you got as close as you did (geographically, so to speak) to the man, did anything in particular (besides his eyes of course! That goes without saying) strike you about his demeanor, presence, etc.? One thing that immediately struck me about his appearance (or "beauty" or handsome-ness, or etc.) was that it was of a type that could be from almost any time period or culture. His face could just as easily be seen on marble carving in Ancient Rome as appear on a icon from Byzantium or a tapestry in Medieval France - and be as easily painted onto a Renaissance fresco as onto a Victorian portrait miniature. And the fact that his hair was styled in a "faux hawk" affected this impression not at all! Small stature and youthful appearance be damned.... this MUST be a marketable quality when auditioning for parts, wouldn't you think?
Going back to my ususal lurking and quiet happy squeeing.....
tgshaw
09-11-2005, 12:00 AM
HONEY!!!!
Oh, Eru, I love the expression on your face. :p Wonderful.
I love the expression on his face ;) :D !
Here are two pics where you'll just have to take my word for it ;) that the people in them are singing a rousing chorus of Happy Birthday:
For eandme --
http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/1a92c830.jpg
For Vinnie (I was going to post it in the playgroup, but since you're here, anyway :p ) --
http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/1aa24e40.jpg
Hope you've both had a great day!
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For those who know the secret handshake (go to the Guest Book page (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics) and click on the picture of the hands), there are 3 (yes, 3 :eek: ) new pages of Paint Shopped Casey pics. It's #12 on the list (and #12, and #12). Part of my efforts to post some non-Frodo material for September, since I want October to be an all-LotR month for the 50th anniversary. I may get some "public" screencaps up for September, too, but not this weekend.
I've been asked if it's okay to save the Paint Shop pics to your own hard drive. I certainly don't mind. From the way I understand copyright law, they'd be considered "derivative works," the same as fanfic, which is the reason I don't normally post them on the public part of the site. It's illegal to make derivative works available to the general public, but there's nothing wrong with giving them to friends. :)
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Someone (? :o ) asked about the "It's an Elijah Wood Thing" t-shirt. It'd be quite easy to do that with a good printer and the right graphics software. (As an iron-on transfer, that is. If you wanted it printed directly on the t-shirt, you'd probably have to go to a place that makes custom t-shirts. Someone who's artistic could also do it with fabric paint.)
Lady Wendy
09-11-2005, 02:44 AM
EANDME...HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/wendylady1/Elijah/Elijah1.jpg
Here's a new pic, courtesy of the very wonderful Silverthoughts, who posted a load of pics from the GSH Premiere in NYC..
Doesn't he just look...well, you know !!
Honey
I just loved the photo of you and His Heaven and Earthliness :D...How Fab !!
I also really like that purpley velvety thing you are wearing...lovely colour ...
One day, I am going to get to meet this man, but I am not going to stand for three hours in the rain again, only to get nothing at all..No Siree... :mad:
whiteling
09-11-2005, 08:26 AM
Honey! - the pic of Elijah and you is *gorgeous*. Two charming, beautiful people :)!
Your facial expression reminded me of this Vermeer painting:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/vermeer-girl-with-wineglass-couple.jpg
While I can easily envision you as the girl, the guy bears by no means a resemblance to our Lad. Too bad. Ah well.
Brummie, I enjoyed your TMFKAH review. Glad you liked it. :)
Tg, your new Casey pages look good. He looks so unbelievably young in some caps... seems ages ago. I think I'll rewatch The Faculty soon.
Lady Wendy - that pic of Lij you posted for Eandme... mmmhmm. Delicious! I'm crossing my fingers that you will see him one day in nice weather and from pole position :).
Achila
09-11-2005, 09:21 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, EANDME! Hope it's a wonderful day!
Wanted to tell you all that Ebert and Roeper have given (GS)Hooligans two thumbs up! An audio clip of their review shows up on their website, http://tvplex.go.com/buenavista/ebertandroeper/today.html, about a week after the show airs on TV, so look for it some time next week. But the ad for the film that was in the NYTimes this morning already has the "TWO THUMBS UP!" in it.
Very interesting how the reviews are going, totally swinging from one side to the other.
Mechtild
09-11-2005, 09:36 AM
Whiteling, great painting choice! And, yes, it DOES capture that look on Honey's lovely face!
~ Mechtild
whiteling
09-11-2005, 09:49 AM
Mechtild!! :lol: :D :eek: :cool:
Thank you for another tangible proof that a Frolijah improves almost every picture! :k
Eandme
09-11-2005, 09:53 AM
:D Thank you Whiteling, Pelagia, Blossom (esp. thanx for the lovely animation!! the eybrow acting superièure made me smile! :D ) Mechtild, Achila, Mariole, Vintage Hobbit (and I hope you had a great day too!!) ylla, tgshaw, Lady Wendy and Ceefour for your lovely birthday greetings!! :k
It made me very happy to find nearly a whole page of them here in the Faculty Lounge!! First I was: :eek: Then: :D ...
Thank you!! I hope I did not forget anyone, there were so many!
I had a wonderful birthday. I was feeling great what with all the well-wishers, the attention, the mathoms (hobbits like presents!), and also the avalanche of Elijah-material available online at right now.... Alas, now I have eaten too much cake and must lie down. Also have watched many clips with Elijah *fans self* Pass the smelling salt someone! ;)
Lembas_Junkie
09-11-2005, 10:27 AM
I was lurking at the TORC Frodo/Elijah Thread and there was a link in Lady Wendy's post to the KD. I haven't been here in ages, so I thought I'd pop in and say hi.
Hi! :D
Honey, you are so gorgeous! :) You must've been on cloud nine, look at those eyes of EW's...puuuurrrrrr.
Lady Wendy also had a link to Undone's LJ, which I followed and found a positively delicious picture of EW reclined on red, rumply fabric. Saved that one to My Pictures quick enough, hee hee! :D
Lembas
:)
Edit: I might as well post the picture...it's too yummy to keep to myself!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Lembas_Junkie/VelvetyGoodness.jpg
honeyelf
09-11-2005, 10:29 AM
Happy Birthday, EandMe! :k :k :k
Sorry I'm a little late!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/bed1.jpg
I've mostly recovered from my experience now! So a few little thoughts.
The Daily News in NY reviewed Hooligans, giving it two and a half stars, and singling out Charlie as the best thing about the movie. But what they said about Elijah almost made up for it!
Our favorite Hobbit was an inspired choice to play Matt Buckner, a timid journalism major who is kicked out of Harvard when he takes a drug rap for a bullying roommate. In London to visit his married sister the aimless Matt quickly hooks up with the wrong crowd, and what he learns from them is recorded in Wood's enormous, liquid eyes withthe accuracy of a mega-pixel digital camera.
Could do without the "Hobbit" referernce, but Love that last bit!
And then there was a random comment overheard on the street. I spent a bit of time walking around in Union Square, and on some of the subway entrances, observed digital screens playing the trailer for Hooligans! I stopped at a street vendor's table outside the Virgin Megastore, directly opposite one of these digitals screens. I purchased some handmade jewellry, and as I was getting myself together again I looked up to see the neighboring vendor staring over my head at this screen saying, "He's a beautiful man." To which the artist whose jewellry I'd just purchased responded "He is a human work of art, that's for certain!" I just smiled to myself, and didn't say anything.
Thanks for all your comments on the pic of me and Lij! Whiteling, you are so right! The girl in the beautiful painting you posted looks almost as demented as I do in the photograph! I'm sure Mariole will agree! :D ;) Mech, after paying nine bucks :eek: for just one glass of chardonnay, I can assure you that any intoxication was not due to alchohol! And Ylla, any radiance in the pic on my part was surely entirely reflected! TG, I've been looking at the expression on his face (and looking, and looking, and looking...) and I think he's thinking "Where do all these old ladies come from?" ;)
hugs,
honey!
PS I simulposted with you, Lembas! And we posted the same picture! :lol:
Lembas_Junkie
09-11-2005, 10:32 AM
HONEY! :D Look at our pictures, hee hee! Great minds think alike, ha! The only difference is that I Photoshopped the hand outta there...oh, that is one sweet shot, is it not?
So funny that we both posted the same pic at the same time. Hee hee!
Lembas
;)
peaceweaver
09-11-2005, 11:19 AM
Just want to check in, Colleagues, inspired by seeing Honey and Elwood together (ummm, Honey, were you sitting in his LAP? :eek: ) and also by seeing GSH this weekend, with the fabulous Goldenberry.
I'm still thinking through the movie, which had its strengths and weaknesses. The violence was overly vivid, but I thought the acting was quite good throughout. Charlie Hunnam was a surprise to me, as I had never seen him before. And of course, I can't take my eyes off Wood when he's on screen.
The dialogue was a little silly at times, as were some plot points--England is "the most watched nation on earth" says Pete, but somehow there's never a cop around when a brawl breaks out...the better to have a slow-mo slugfest, m'dear.
Am devastated that I missed EW on Conan--my favorite venue for his PR stuff. :(
Am equally devastated that I missed so many birthdays--Happy B-Day to all! :)
And check out my new sig...
Mariole
09-11-2005, 12:54 PM
Great sig, PW! I called that line out in my comment on LJ as well. *sigh* It's so good to see you drop in!
Whiteling, you are inspired! Yes, we can see that giddiness transcends the ages. Hurrah for your brilliant pic, and tee-hee for Mechtild's improvement! :D
Honey, I'm enjoying the "beautiful man" story very much. Aw. Would that more of us would stand up and celebrate beauty and truth! Not to get too fangurlish, but I think it's EW's honest nature that has so much of this beauty shine through. It's not the packaging that attracts, it's the spirit. (By which I do not mean that EW has a shabby package--no snickers, dears!--but that the most physically attractive man can be rendered repulsive by his bearing and attitude.)
Tg, your birthday song cap was hilarious. *treasures it* What an eye!
Thank you, Achila and Pelagia, for the film review snippets. It's sounding pretty good! *crosses fingers*
Achila
09-11-2005, 01:12 PM
Honey, I'm enjoying the "beautiful man" story very much. Aw. Would that more of us would stand up and celebrate beauty and truth! Not to get too fangurlish, but I think it's EW's honest nature that has so much of this beauty shine through. It's not the packaging that attracts, it's the spirit. (By which I do not mean that EW has a shabby package--no snickers, dears!--but that the most physically attractive man can be rendered repulsive by his bearing and attitude.) You're absolutely right, Mari. And the corollary to that, of course, is that someone who is beautiful inside may transcend any physical unattractiveness, thereby becoming more beautiful overall.
For me, it's a total package, but if the inside hadn't been as great as the outside was from first glance, I wouldn't be posting this right now!
BTW, our Beautiful Man could be seen last night on VH-1's Hurricane Relief telethon.
tgshaw
09-11-2005, 02:53 PM
(((peaceweaver))) -- So good to see you. And Lembas_Junkie, too! :k
To pick up on peaceweaver's mention, I haven't seen any comments here on Elijah's Conan appearance. My TV decided to not pick up the NBC station that night, so I missed it. Anyone?
For me, it's a total package, but if the inside hadn't been as great as the outside was from first glance, I wouldn't be posting this right now!
Absolutely. And IMVHO, even his acting would suffer greatly if his "insides" were self-centered rather than other-centered.
Speaking of beauty: I have other things I should be doing so, of course :rolleyes: , I posted two more pages of Casey pics. As far as I can find on my hard drive, I've now published all of the Paint Shopped Caseys that are worth looking at. The pics on these last two pages ("12.4" and "12 final") are without commentary, because they exist for the sake of pure beauty. Problem is, there are still so many frames I'd love to work with. TOL, even though still a lad at that point, had some extremely beautiful moments in that movie. Here's a link to this month's first page (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/id28.htm) (out of a total of five). I know there's a lot going on right now, Elijah-wise :) , so there may not be time to look at "old" pictures. But they'll be there in the future for anyone who's too busy now. :)
Mechtild
09-11-2005, 11:24 PM
Two things I forgot to speak to.
Mechtild - Was tickled to encounter your reference to "Ceremony of Carols". Benjamin Britten, right? I've sung the piece at two different points in my life and do still find the music popping into mind at the oddest appropriate moments, as apparently happens with you!
Yes, Benjamin Britten. I've sung it, too. I love the piece. P.S. I asked you in Hugs Haven, but are you the same Marea who wrote up a meeting with EW in NYC, over a cat? It was a great piece.
Mech, after paying nine bucks :eek: for just one glass of chardonnay, I can assure you that any intoxication was not due to alchohol!
I am not sure if you were joking when you wrote that, honey, so I thought I'd better make sure to say that I was joking. When I said you looked "intoxicated" in your lovely photo, I meant it in a teasing way -- "intoxicated" not on chardonnay, but on the heady charms of vintage Chateau Elwood (1981 -- a superlative year).
But nine dollars for a glass of chardonnay! I hope it was a good one for that much. :)
~ Mechtild
honeyelf
09-12-2005, 12:05 AM
I've been thinking a lot about the Hooligans after-party, what I got from the experience, and impressions I came away with. I'm very happy, and a little saddened by the whole thing. Let me explain myself.
I had no idea what to expect of the premiere. I speculated much, and then left all notions behind in the days immediatley leading up to the premiere.
I was surprised, as I think we all were, to find Charlie Hunnam standing outside the theater when the movie was over. He was immediatley approachable, and very friendly. "What luck!" I thought, and asked him if I could have a pic with him, not expecting to encounter him at the party later. Click if you wanna see (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/016_17A.jpg)
Downstairs in the lobby, we found Terence Jay in his fantastic jacket. He remembered meeting me at LA Femme. And Lexi was there, hugging us and being very sweet and down-to-earth and friendly.
"But where's Elijah?" the four of us all kept asking each other.
And then at the party of course we had a nice time with Charlie. Jo Ann reminded me that at one point Lexi suggested to Charlie that he get inside so that the party could get started, and he told her "I'm just going to hang out here with them for a while." And hang out he did! If you'd told me three years ago that I'd be standing on a side-walk in New York with Charlie Hunnam's arm around my shoulder, and mine around his waist I'd have said "Charlie who?" ;) But then I'd have said "Yeah, right! When pigs fly!"
And then there was the little encounter in smokers' purgatory with Terence Jay, and getting to hold that gorgeous jacket for him, as he showed me his tattoo!
I'm trying to find an accurate way to convey how dark and noisy and crowded that party was! The "One Blood" video was playing on two large screens in the main room, near the bar, but other music was being pumped loudly through the room. Navigation was nearly impossible through the crush of bodies. There was no place to dance; you'd have just been in the way if you did. All in all, it reminded me of that bit in RoTK the book, where Frodo and Sam are navigating Shelob's tunnel, and the dark and stench are so overpowering they can nearly not think.
I wasn't outside with Joanie to witness Elijah's arrival. But she says there was so much security around that it looked more like the arrival of the president! And then he came inside, and Joanie and I followed pretty close behind him as he was led through the front room, to the even more crowded back room.
There have been dozens of encounters by fans of Elijah reported. Some have claimed that meeting him changed their lives! EandMe, you said being near him made you want to be a better person. And then there are the TV, magazine and radio interviews where he comes off so sweetly, and is so lively and lovely!
So here comes the sad part. He was so subdued and reserved. He seemed shy, and very business like. Worst of all, I thought I saw some fragility there. Oh, he was very gracious about signing stuff for people, and letting us pose for pictures with him, but he wasn't smiling and giggly, or nearly so out-going as Charlie or Terence.
I'm not complaining for me! Please don't mistake me!
I'm sad for him. He's a private person, a little shy too. And the endless bids for his attention must get very trying! And then as he stood there shaking each of our hands in turn, he seemed a little overwhelmed. We could only see flashes of his eyes in the dark. He seemed distant.
There were a dozen things I'd have liked to talk to him about: Miles Davis, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and the eloquence in simplicity for example. Or the finer points of his performance in the film. I'd have liked to tell him how comforting Casey was to me the other week, as I faced my father's decline. How excited I am to hear about the bands he'll sign, knowing he's been exploring old blues too, recently. There was other stuff that crossed my mind during the course of the last few weeks.
Was I just star-struck? Maybe I was projecting my own anxiety on to him.
Jo Ann said afterward that she didn't feel she'd met Elijah. In a quieter better lit room, one where I could think, I might have found myself entirely flumoxed again, like at ORC. But as Gwen said, the famous "BlueZap" wasn't working.
But all in all I find that I felt we'd pinned a rare a beautiful soul to a board to look at, and in so doing destroyed part of what makes it so rare and so beautiful in the first place.
Again, Jo Ann had the best observation; there'll never be a quiet corner where you or I will be able to sit down and get to know Elijah. I won't find myself standing on a sidewalk somewhere, inhaling his second-hand smoke, with our arms around each others' shoulders as he reflects on playing a good-guy like Frodo Baggins, and what that means for his actor's karma.
I'm done meeting Elijah. From now on I'll be more than content in catching the flashes of his lovely soul as they are collected by some reporter somewhere. Even if he turns up in my neighborhood grocery store, I'll be giving him his space.
***
Mech, I've simulposted with you. I know you were teasing, and I was trying to tease back, attributing that intoxication to the proximity of a certain beautiful actor, but I'm not very good at humor when I'm tired I guess! :k
honey!
honeyelf
09-12-2005, 12:59 AM
Sorry for the double post, but I don't think there's room enough to post more in the last one, and this is important stuff.
Hooligans has done really really well at the theaters this weekend! It's number two per screen (all seven of 'em!) just behind the mega-hyped Exorcism of Emily Rose. Go here: HERE (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/)
Just a fun little comparison of a few movies and their first-weekend box office receipts:
Film Screens on first weekend Box Office Take
March of the Penguins 4 $137,492
Bigger Than the Sky 9 $12,281
Green Street Hooligans 7 $60,200
GSH had averaged $8,600 per screen!
So here's the important stuff: If you've seen the movie go RATE IT!
movies.yahoo.com (http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808712981)
or sign up at Internet Movie Database (http://www.imdb.com)
honey!
Alyon
09-12-2005, 01:45 AM
((((Honey))))
Your observations are so keen and seem to me, as I would imagine it, to be right on. I have often imagined the fatigue that must come along with contantly meeting people, and constantly giving the best you can. And I have imagined that Elijah, especially with the schedule he has kept over the last few weeks, could easily be so drained at this point as to have little reserves to be drawing from. I really think we have such desires to have that conversation and show appreciation to those we admire, but there is a time to step back and know that the moment is not just about ourselves, no matter if it is something that may never happen again. It's about what is natural and what makes sense and if we care about the person we admire, there is likely a time to let there be quiet. Even when the situation is impossible for there actually to be quiet!!(noisy noisy party!).....you are smart, Honey, I think, to have sussed it out. I'm sure another time you would see the blue eyed magic. But to allow a person to be human, and tired, maybe to be alone...to accept that they don't have to always be their very best just because it's your turn to stand in front and claim attention..I think that is an understanding we can give to anyone, of course including someone we admire so.
IMHO You are great, Honey, to see it that way. :k
And..
Happy Birthday a little late to Eandme and to Vinnie. :k
Skater girl
09-12-2005, 03:05 AM
So here comes the sad part. He was so subdued and reserved. He seemed shy, and very business like. Worst of all, I thought I saw some fragility there. Oh, he was very gracious about signing stuff for people, and letting us pose for pictures with him, but he wasn't smiling and giggly, or nearly so out-going as Charlie or Terence.
But all in all I find that I felt we'd pinned a rare a beautiful soul to a board to look at, and in so doing destroyed part of what makes it so rare and so beautiful in the first place.
Honey, reading your post left me with tears in my eyes. You put so eloquently into words what has been going through my mind in the last few weeks. When I saw Elijah in Edinburgh, I too got that feeling that he looked tired and was putting on a show for his fans in a business like manner. Only later, as it came to light just how many interviews he had given in the short time he was in the UK did it really strike me just how draining it must have been for him. I can imagine it must be similar to being locked in a police cell and interrogated again and again, especially in the case of Green Street, where he was having to fend off questions about the film glorifying violence. The last thing he probably felt like doing afterwards was going out to the premiere and putting on a show for a group of excited women. In contrast, I hardly saw any interviews with Charlie, and both he and Leo Gregory seemed much more talkative during the Q&A session, almost as if they were glad to finally have the chance to get in on the action.
The difference between the person I saw and the relaxed Elijah that people videoed at ELF was huge, and I would glady forego the deluge of images of public Elijah we have seen over the last few weeks to see one longer, relaxed interview where he can be himself and talk about what he would like to share from his experiences and interests.
Sorry ladies my pms have been as random lately as the rest of my life. Just a short interruption for an old friend:
tg, I sent a pm but it seems (like a lot lately) to have got sucked into cyber space.
Here it is again briefly: so sorry to hear about your mother. Been there done that. I send you my love. You will come through this . :) I amsending you warm kiwi thoughts. Be strong.
love Prim
whiteling
09-12-2005, 05:33 AM
Prim! :) How lovely to "see" you. *waves*
Honey and Skater girl, your sensitive posts affected me very much.
From the fangirl POV there is more than one reason currently to be on cloud 9 - tons of pictures, articles, interviews, public attendances. But what does that in return mean for Elijah? I, too, wondered for the last few weeks, how one single person can manage this enormous load of work. Has his day 48 hours? :eek: When does he find time to fill up his batteries? It's no surprise that even energetic Elijah reaches the point of exhaustion. Skater girl, I found your image of the police cell quite significant. And even when he hasn't to fend off critical questions, he finds himself surrounded by people who want something from him... and coming to think of it - I am still very happy and grateful to have been able to see him in Edinburgh (since then my admiration and esteem for him has reached an even deeper level, if that is possible at all), but when I took "my" photo of him I felt deep within me a streak of "paparazzism". I, too, wanted "my" piece of Elijah. :o Do I make sense here? Well, I'm kind of glad that I took the picture though (I will treasure it forever), but should I ever meet him again, I will just stand and have a look at him (like dear Serena did in Edinburgh :), and she told me again her story of seeing Elijah totally by chance in the hotel in Karlovy Vary last year. She left him alone, because she didn't want to intruse into his privacy. Very very classy, and a good role model.)
Narya Celebrian
09-12-2005, 08:20 AM
Honeyelf, that was beautifully said, and very insightful. It seems to me there is a price to pay for almost every job, and that the price of fame in the movie business is extraordinarily high - especially for someone who is so giving, and so willing to step up to the plate to promote his movies. Sometimes I wonder if his desire to start a music company is partly to be able to do what he loves without this crush of public appearances and interviews. He handles it so graciously, but I can't even begin to imagine how tiring it must be.
Random
09-12-2005, 08:27 AM
Hi all and happy birthday to eadme!
I saw GSH a couple of nights ago and
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SPOILERS
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Im afraid I was more put off by Charlie Hunnams accent than Brummie was. It actually made me cringe; and seem to affect his acting as well, at least when he was talking; he was pretty good when he wasnt. For me, it brought down the film a fair amount, and as a result I couldnt enjoy it as much as I should have.
BUT!
I thought it was great mostly a very small film (you could tell how small the budget was sometimes) but well put together with pretty nice acting (apart from Charlie) and fun scenes (I liked the Karate Kid conversation particularly).
And EW was great I loved how he was all subdued and floppy near the beginning of the film, and how he changed how he held himself, and walked, and was altogether sparkier near the end. As someone mentioned ages ago, the part where he listens to his Dads voicemail message and subtle emotions flit across his face is spectacular.
Chud.com has a very nice review of EII up. About Ew, the reviewer says:
Elijah Wood has spent the years after The Lord of the Rings taking on roles that might distance him from Frodo. I suspect it isnt from a dislike of those films, but rather from being aware that hes a hairbreadth from being typecast forever. Here he finds the role that should make people see him as an actor, and not just Frodo in a different setting. Wood has huge, expressive eyes which made him a favorite of teen girls for years and which he used to truly create the soul of Frodo. Here these eyes are magnified to absurd proportions behind massive spectacles, and theyre used to the opposite effect. Jonathan is an observer, shielded behind the glasses, always separate from what hes looking at.
Its a tough role. Jonathan is inscrutable at best. Hes the proverbial stranger in a strange land, surrounded by people who dont understand him (although it seems pretty obvious that people not understanding him is a regular part of his life), either as a person or even on a simple language level. Jonathan is the character who initiates this journey, but he may not be the one with the most to learn at the end. Wood is a good enough actor to bring us through Jonathans distance and strangeness and make us care about him, and to want to understand him better.
I also liked this little comment at the end:
Quite simply, Everything is Illuminated is a wonderful film, a moving film, and a funny film. Its not a movie that will make a huge splash this year, I suspect, but is a movie that people will look back on in twenty years and wonder if we knew how lucky we were to be around when someone was making movies like this.
Achila
09-12-2005, 08:40 AM
I was just about to mention the CHUD review, but Random beat me to it -- quite alright! But I will tell you that all the advertising along the top and right side on IMDB is EII! :cool:
honeyelf
09-12-2005, 11:57 AM
Good to see all the good reviews for EII springing up.
Just checked my TiVO wishlist of Lij, and it came up with an NBC show I'd never heard of called Kickin' It. Apparently Elijah will be on the show on Monday September 19 at 1:00AM, but check your local time and channels.
Also Ebert and Roeper are set to review Everything is Illuminated next weekend.
honey!
tgshaw
09-12-2005, 01:31 PM
(((Prim))) Thanks for your post. Kiwi thoughts will always hold a special place in my heart, especially when coming from a long-time [ ;) ] friend. :)
BunnieBugs
09-12-2005, 01:35 PM
Just checked my TiVO wishlist of Lij, and it came up with an NBC show I'd never heard of called Kickin' It. Apparently Elijah will be on the show on Monday September 19 at 1:00AM, but check your local time and channels.
Thanks for the heads up, Honey. Are you sure about the time and place of that show? I can find nothing on the NBC website about such a show, and the late night line-up is usually Jay Leno, Conan O'Brien, and then Carson Daly. Next week it could all be different, I suppose. I should get a new TV Guide either today or tomorrow, so I'll see what I can find out. :)
honeyelf
09-12-2005, 01:45 PM
That's what this page says: Monday, September 19, 2005 s (http://www.nbc11.com/tvlistings/index.html)
But that's the SF/Oakland bay area. Sorry I can't be more helpful than that.
BunnieBugs
09-12-2005, 01:54 PM
Wow -- it must be a local or syndicated program that I don't get! I checked all through our TV listings and searched everywhere, but there is no such show here. :confused: Interesting that he might be doing a bay area show... or maybe it will just have a segment about him, and he won't be on it at all. Looks like you'll have to watch it for us and let us know! ;)
Achila
09-12-2005, 02:02 PM
Bunnie, I seem to remember that he was on that once before, and I drove myself crazy trying to find the clip. Yes, it is a syndie, and I doubt that it's on here (in the NE) either.
Sharpe's Girl
09-12-2005, 02:26 PM
I was just reading some reviews from the Toronto Film Festival written by James Bernardelli, and I saw this interesting line from his review of "Elizabethtown" (Orlando Bloom's new movie):
Orlando Bloom is "vanilla." He doesn't give Crowe much to work with. Kirsten Dunst is a little better, but she's a little too "innocent cute." The pairing generates some lightweight romantic vibes, but no serious sexual tension. I can't help but wonder what would have happened had two more intense actors - say, Elijah Wood and Scarlett Johansson - been cast.
Bernardelli is an avowed EW fan, but it's nice to see a prominent movie critic putting forth EW's name as a potential romantic comedy lead actor!
I CAN`T BELIVE I MISED TWO BIRTHDAYS AGAIN!!!!!!! :( :(
Many belated birthdays wishes Eandme and Vinnie
I really have to pull my self together and be here more often!!!!!
I am falling so long behind i can never ba involved in yor discusions!!!! :(
Having some problems i can`t talk about in here but i hope it will all go back to normal soon. its heading the right way so two speak!!!!! :rolleyes:
Wonderful picture of the two of you Honey !!!!!
Like Ylla sade if it woulde have been me i hade falling down infront of him!!!!! :D
Waves to all!!!!!!
LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD
Lady Wendy
09-12-2005, 05:21 PM
Honey
I'm done meeting Elijah. From now on I'll be more than content in catching the flashes of his lovely soul as they are collected by some reporter somewhere. Even if he turns up in my neighborhood grocery store, I'll be giving him his space.
I think your comments were extremely thoughtful and considerate..and I reckon that when we queued outside the Apollo Cinema in the rain, for three hours, to get just a glimpse of Elijah, ( the first time for me ) we witnessed the absolute depths of Rabid Fandom...it was truly SCARY...and if that is what Elijah has to put up with on these Press Junkets, then I say NO WONDER he looked exhausted... :mad:
Not to mention the endless interviews with journos who hate the thought of a film about such a difficult subject as Hooliganism ...
I'd hate it !! I'm SO glad I'm not a star...
I also applaude your total selflessness when it comes to deciding NOT to meet him again, even though it means never having to see those eyes inthe flesh ... :(
Today, my new LJ friend, Perianella posted the most wonderful SCANS, from ELLE Girl magazine, and truly they are wonderful to behold !!! :D
Gorgeous pics and some really good questions too...
As it's LJ, I am not allowed to post the link here (*pout*) so you'll just have to PM me as usual...
honeyelf
09-12-2005, 08:18 PM
Wendy said: I also applaude your total selflessness when it comes to deciding NOT to meet him again, even though it means never having to see those eyes inthe flesh ...
I don't know that I can claim "selflessness" at this point, having now met him twice, in two different situations. I just know that the convention experience felt very odd to me, and I knew I didn't want to go that route ever again. So after ORC I didn't think I'd ever meet him again.
And then I got invited to the Hooligans premiere along with the three other petition ladies, and I thought that might be different, better. Before I went my son asked me how many times I planned on meeting Elijah, and I told him that this would probably be the last time; it's hard to top meeting someone you admire because some little thing you did has worked to their benefit.
I guess I sort of ended up having the experience I wanted with Elijah with Charlie instead. And I can be happy with that.
Speaking only for myself, I am far too fond of Elijah to need to bother him again. It reminds me too much of a line from a song by Nicklecreek called Between Green and Grey:
in a roomful of people we all would vote him most likely to be loved to death...
I think the level of fame that Elijah has risen to could very well destroy even him, grounded as he is. I"m a little sadder for it, but from here on in I'll just be admiring him from a very great distance, through his films, interviews and photoshoots.
honey!
Achila
09-12-2005, 08:21 PM
One thing to keep in mind, Honey -- he was in Paris the day before. It could've just as simply been a case of raging jet lag as anything else.
ceefour
09-13-2005, 08:14 AM
A quick post before my computer starts to go haywire. My computer has been attacked by WinFixer malware, and Mr. ceefour has been fighting with it since Friday. Every time he thinks he has deleted it, it returns. Whoever thought of this should be cast into the fires of Mt. Doom. :mad: I will
not be able to go online until this is straightened out. Keep writing lots of great posts so there will be loads to read when I am able.
:k to The Faculty!
C4
Goldenberry
09-13-2005, 11:21 AM
Honeyelf, I'm going to side with those who wonder if Elijah's subdued, distant demeanor upon your NYC visit was simply fatigue. He seems to have been in Chicago on Tuesday, then jetted to Paris and bac--in one day :confused: --and then on to New York. Unless someone is very much mistaken, and he wasn't just back from Paris, that schedule would kill a wild boar! ;) At any rate, he is simultaneously promoting two movies. Even Elijah doesn't have a bottomless well of energy.
After reading a comment about his Howard Stern show interview that stated he finds fan conventions to be lucrative, I'm beginning to consider attending one. :eek: :o ;) Another tidbit from that interview indicated that his remuneration for LOTR wasn't as great as one might think, and now I find myself fretting over his finances :rolleyes:. Yeah, that's the angle: I'll sign up for my 30-second Elijah encounter because, darn it, he needs the money! :lol:
BunnieBugs
09-13-2005, 11:32 AM
Count me on the side of "fatigued", as well. He has seemed alternately bouncy and reserved, lately, maybe depending on how much caffeine he's had to ingest to keep going. The schedule has been killer! I'm not sure about the Paris thing... he was reported to have been on a flight from Paris to NY on 9/7, but the timing of that seems awkward at best, so I don't know... In any case, the lad has to be feeling the strain a bit.
But I look at the photos and footage from the conventions, and he is like a whole different man, relaxed and outgoing and appearing to be having a great time himself... It seems to me that that was almost a mini "vacation" in the middle of the grueling press junket. How lovely that he feels at home enough in that sort of situation to just let go and enjoy himself!
And lastly, I don't think this article has been linked here, yet; nothing really new, but they have some nice things to say about him, and his personality shines through: Shedding Light on "Everything Is Illuminated" (http://www.filmthreat.com/Interviews.asp?Id=1021)
Achila
09-13-2005, 11:46 AM
Thanks for posting that link, Bunnie. That was one I hadn't seen yet. Interesting bit re: the Iggy movie, and about whether he was going to be Iggy or Bowie. I know that Lij has said he's going to be Iggy, but I like the other idea as well or even better! :cool:
ETA -- British box office news -- from Empire Online:
Another new release, Green Street, landed in sixth place with £446,000; a decent performance for an indie film about hooligans. A good screen average of £1,822 suggests that it should hold up for a few weeks to come.
txtac
09-13-2005, 11:51 AM
That was a nice interview Bunnie. Thanks for posting it.
Someone earlier was asking about the extended version of Sin City coming out in December. I ran across this bit of info:
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=58475
Lest we forget, Robert Rodriguez will be giving a lecture about Sin City on the 28th at U.T. There will be a question and answer session afterwards. Given that Elijah has done three movies with R.R., does anyone have any questions that they would like to ask R.R. ? I am planning on going and asking as many questions as I can get away with. :)
Yeah! It's my 100th post :haha:
tgshaw
09-13-2005, 12:41 PM
There's a new thread in the Cinema about TMFKAH:
http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3799
Four posts so far and no positive comments at all. I think Loon must have broken the record for number of "****"'s in a single post. (He didn't like it ;) .) So if anyone who's seen it would like to offer an opposing point of view...
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Congratulations on 100 posts, txtac! :cool: I'll give some thought to questions for R.R. D'you think he'd answer some sfx "How was that done?" type questions, or should they be more general?
ETA: I've heard there was an alternate ending made for The Faculty. Could you ask about that, and why the current ending was used instead of the alternate (if there actually is one)?
honeyelf
09-13-2005, 01:51 PM
One thing to keep in mind, Honey -- he was in Paris the day before. It could've just as simply been a case of raging jet lag as anything else.
Honeyelf, I'm going to side with those who wonder if Elijah's subdued, distant demeanor upon your NYC visit was simply fatigue.
Count me on the side of "fatigued", as well. He has seemed alternately bouncy and reserved, lately, maybe depending on how much caffeine he's had to ingest to keep going. The schedule has been killer!
Achila, Goldenberry, and Bunnie, I give! You're most likely right that he was just pooped! (As was I, apparently, when I wrote that post last night; I went to bed at 8:30pm and slept for 10 hours! :eek: )
Bunnie, I noticed that article you posted the reporter talked again about how confident he seems. I like that.
***
At the bookstore yesterday I happened across a book about the punk scene. I picked it up and thumbed through the section on Iggy Pop. Me thinks this is going to be a very interesting performance by TOL. People spoke about Mr. Pop rolling about it broken glass; about him being covered in peanut butter, oil and glitter during his performances; and about his seeming disdain for the audience at certain points in his career. Very interesting indeed! 'Lijah Pop will be about as far removed from anything we've seen him do so far.
***
I went over to the GSH thread and gave my two-cents worth (or is it six-cents now? I've seen it three times!)
honey!
Alyon
09-13-2005, 02:03 PM
Bunnie:
And lastly, I don't think this article has been linked here, yet; nothing really new, but they have some nice things to say about him, and his personality shines through: Shedding Light on "Everything Is Illuminated"
They sure do have some nice things to say...very worth the read for people who like to collect new nice quotes about Elijah. :cool:
Another article that claims he was in Seattle!!! Just when did he have the time?? When was this mythical visit??? Does he have a double working for him?? How much more exhausting can his schedule get???
BunnieBugs
09-13-2005, 02:27 PM
Oh, txtac! This is not so much a question as a request, I guess, but could you please tell Robert that many of us who are fans of his and also of Elijah's would love to see another major collaboration between the two of them? It really should happen! ;) Maybe you could tie it in with the question about the ending of The Faculty? (For those who don't know, the original ending had everyone die after Casey killed the alien queen except for Casey and Zeke, as they were the only ones who hadn't been infected. The test audiences didn't like it and wanted a "happier" ending.) I've heard that there is supposed to be a special edition DVD of the film coming out sometime soon -- I'd love to know if the original ending might be included in the "extras"!
Alyon, I also noticed the reference to "Seattle journalists", but nowhere could I find a mention of where the interviewing took place. Could they have been elsewhere on his press junket, and these five journalists made the journey together to interview him?
Honey's mention of Iggy Pop jogged my memory about something: an acquaintance on LJ related how she had been talking with a friend of hers -- huge punk fan from back in its glory days, very big on Iggy and The Stooges -- and mentioned to her that there was a film about Iggy that was going to be made and that Elijah had been cast in the role. Without missing a beat, the punk fanatic (NOT an Elijah fan) said, "Oh, that's great casting! He's perfect for it." :cool: :)
txtac
09-13-2005, 02:37 PM
TGShaw wrote: I'll give some thought to questions for R.R. D'you think he'd answer some sfx "How was that done?" type questions, or should they be more general?
Part of the lecture is going to be how he made it. Most of the FX was CGI. Do you have anything in particular in mind?
ETA: I've heard there was an alternate ending made for The Faculty. Could you ask about that, and why the current ending was used instead of the alternate (if there actually is one)?
Sure. I seem to remember both Elijah and Robert talking about two endings. I think that the original ending didn't work out, so Robert re-shot it. I will ask him and see what he says now. ;)
[quote]Bunnie asked: I've heard that there is supposed to be a special edition DVD of the film coming out sometime soon -- I'd love to know if the original ending might be included in the "extras"!
Good piece of film trivia. I know that R.R. has fallen in love with the new digital cameras and cgi for SFX. The Faculty was his first SFX movie with the monster swimming in the pool.
I will ask if he will include the original ending in a "disc of extras."
tgshaw
09-13-2005, 02:46 PM
The same site that Bunnie linked to for the EII interview, also has this review of TMFKAH:
http://www.filmthreat.com/Reviews.asp?Id=7190
Very positive review. Maybe it's not a coincidence that it's written by someone who's admittedly from the movie's target audience -- Americans who know nothing about hooliganism.
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The bit in Seattle sounds like a fairly typical "press junket" arrangement -- Fly into a city, talk to a group of reporters all at the same time, fly back out again. He probably set foot in the airport and his hotel room. (Bunnie, it does say they're in Elijah's hotel room and the original Starbucks is three blocks away.)
Question to no one in particular: If you'd been one of the five reporters, would you have asked him politely to put out his cigarette? I get horrible headaches when confined in a small space with a lot of cigarette smoke, so I would have had to make the request. Do you think he would have followed it?
BunnieBugs
09-13-2005, 02:52 PM
(Bunnie, it does say they're in Elijah's hotel room and the original Starbucks is three blocks away.) D'oh! Of course, you're right! My short-term memory is not what it used to be. Or, maybe it's just Elijah-press overload (which I don't really mind a bit)!
Question to no one in particular: If you'd been one of the five reporters, would you have asked him politely to put out his cigarette? I get horrible headaches when confined in a small space with a lot of cigarette smoke, so I would have had to make the request. Do you think he would have followed it?I have no doubt that the would very considerately have put it out. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if he either asked beforehand, or if the journalists were warned in advance, just in case any of them had any objection. Everything I've read about Elijah has convinced me that he is nothing if not considerate of others. :)
Achila
09-13-2005, 02:52 PM
Question to no one in particular: If you'd been one of the five reporters, would you have asked him politely to put out his cigarette? I get horrible headaches when confined in a small space with a lot of cigarette smoke, so I would have had to make the request. Do you think he would have followed it?This IS Mr. Polite we're talking about here -- I'm sure he would have if he knew it bothered someone.
honeyelf
09-13-2005, 03:00 PM
Funny. At the party the other night, he just smoked inside the bar. In NY that's illegal these days. But who's gonna tell Elijah Wood to take it outside? Besides which, I'll bet the security guys wouldn't have let him outside to smoke anyhow.
I'm like you TG, I get terrible headaches from cigarette smoke. But at one point I was very briefly near enough to Lij and his stinky little ciggie that I could feel the heat off it. Did I complain? Nah! Meant I was rather near him too! :haha:
honey!
txtac
09-13-2005, 03:09 PM
TGShaw wrote: If you'd been one of the five reporters, would you have asked him politely to put out his cigarette?
Absolutely NOT! There are some rule of thumb etiquitte about interviews. #1. is the journalist does not tell the big movie star what to do! To tell someone to stop drinking, or smoking for the interview is simply not done. It is a privilege for a journalist to interview someone like Elijah Wood. It is not a privilege for Elijah Wood to be interviewed by a journalist. If you tick off a star, they have a tendancy to get up and walk off. No interview. Elijah is not like that, but he is a very strong supporter of smoker's rights too.
I get horrible headaches when confined in a small space with a lot of cigarette smoke, so I would have had to make the request. Do you think he would have followed it?
For a medical condition, of coarse he would have immediately put out his cigarette and apologized for it.
There are many interviews where Elijah does not smoke, especially the "press junket" type where it is just easier for him to sit in a room and have the reporters come and go. In those types of settings, Elijah will use the time period in switching reporters to go outside a smoke a short.
But a one on one interview- he will smoke!
Achila
09-13-2005, 03:10 PM
Funny. At the party the other night, he just smoked inside the bar. In NY that's illegal these days. But who's gonna tell Elijah Wood to take it outside? Besides which, I'll bet the security guys wouldn't have let him outside to smoke anyhow. He did that at the TORn party too -- smoking and holding a beer bottle in the same hand while standing in the wings while WWS performed. I'm sure he's like any other smoker -- they'll do anything to smoke anywhere and will try to get away with it if they can. But my bet is that if he knew it bothered someone, he wouldn't.
Alyon
09-13-2005, 04:12 PM
TgShaw:
The bit in Seattle sounds like a fairly typical "press junket" arrangement -- Fly into a city, talk to a group of reporters all at the same time, fly back out again. He probably set foot in the airport and his hotel room. (Bunnie, it does say they're in Elijah's hotel room and the original Starbucks is three blocks away.)
The original Starbucks is in The Pike Place Market, right smack in downtown Seattle. I know it well.
I'm sure it will all be made clearer when I see the Seattle weekly alternative papers publish their reviews...must mean the movie is coming to Seattle!!! (though I had no doubt it would)
I still wonder when, in all of the recent hustle and bustle, he made it to Seattle. A couple of weeks ago you (Bunnie) gave us a link to another interview...the one that brought out his involvement in "Bobby"...that also said he was in Seattle. I didn't believe it at the time. I thought it was the junket in LA--and the reporters flew down there to see him....
Great question about the alternate ending of The Faculty. I'd love to see that one!! :D
Hobmom
09-13-2005, 04:34 PM
Maybe you could tie it in with the question about the ending of The Faculty? (For those who don't know, the original ending had everyone die after Casey killed the alien queen except for Casey and Zeke, as they were the only ones who hadn't been infected.
Ooh! I like that ending much better than the fake happy ending. Much truer to the whole body snatchers genre. Of course some believe that the aliens really did win and everyone is taken over only the people THINK they won because believing it is part of the 'getting everything they want' feeling the aliens give them.
Good questions to ask!
BunnieBugs
09-13-2005, 05:50 PM
Interesting... this (http://www.filmthreat.com/Interviews.asp?Id=1022) appears to be a continuation of the article that I posted a link to earlier. Or did I just miss a page when I read it? :confused:
EDIT: D'oh! I did miss it! Okay -- who's been spiking my coffee? :rolleyes:
Alyon
09-14-2005, 12:17 AM
Alright--
Evidence that Elijah was in Seattle not very long ago--
A friend pointed out that in the current (until tomorrow) edition of The Stranger (a Seattle alternative weekly), within the Celebrity I saw U colemn it says the following:
"....In even more End Time prophesies fullfilled: 'And the waifish shorties will come amongst you, and they will be ******g adorable, Selah.' And so it came to pass that the Elijah Wood came unto the land of Fourth Avenue and Spring Street (by the scary new library!), and there was seen, and verily did he holdeth hands and indeed make sweet smoochy with his heretofore biblically unprophesized but taller girlfriend. Selah."
However could he have been in Seattle when he was in Venice and Edinburgh and London and Toronto (twice) and Orlando and New York and Chicago and Paris and wherever else???? :confused: HOW is it done???????
BunnieBugs
09-14-2005, 12:35 AM
I'm reminded of a running joke I had with some friends about "Amazing Time Traveling Elijah!" (Don't ask.) I'm thinking that we must have been right all along. ;)
saile
09-14-2005, 07:01 AM
I have wanted to post here since I returned late Sunday but RL had first dibs on my time. Still catching up on the posts and birthdays and news.....but here is a recap .........We had a great visit to Chicago. I do love that city. And I had the pleasure of meeting SandCastles :k . We spent a bit of time on Saturday walking the Magnificent Mile and the Navy Pier. Until Indy SandCastles
General film comments here but no spoilers...
But the MOVIE
.I loved it. Saw it two times, Friday at 4:45pm and Saturday at 7:30pm. And if I had a chance to see it RIGHT NOW, I would jump at it. The Friday audience was young, males by themselves, young women by themselves, couples, groups of women, groups of guys. Saturdays audience, capacity, was similar but there were more older folks (like me). Much more vocal audience with lots of laughing and then a couple of good criers in the group. But both appreciative. The only oddity was a young woman who had Green Street Hooligan paraphernalia. She sat on the floor near the entrance to the viewing theater with her stuff on the floor in piles looking bored and glum. No smile. Not approachable. On Saturday she again in same floor position thrust a Stand Your Ground decal in my hand as I entered. I would have spoken to her just to find out who she was but she wouldnt make eye contact. Puzzlement??
It was a different movie the 2nd time than the first viewing. Both Good mind you. I really like That in a film, each viewing a different experience as you pick up, yes nuance and plot and dialogue.
Okay, the first viewing I missed a lot of the banter because of the accents (to my ears). But the action told me what I needed to know. The acting I thought was first rate all around. I could tell Pete (Charlie) had a different accent but it actually made him easier to understand on first hearing. Yes Elijah IMVHO was excellent. (Cant wait for Tg to do screen caps for this film). On first viewing I actually had no thoughts of the acting. I only knew I was caught up in the story and held captive to see it through. Now
.. I read all that I could find about this movie but I was still surprised. As I found myself relaxing at some points I realized I had been tensing, bracing for
..not really knowing what was coming.
On 2nd viewing I picked up more plot and dialogue but also made a point of noting the acting. Elijah IIRC has said how he likes fulfilling the directors vision. And I think he does that here. The criticisms I have read re Elijahs acting here I think are a result of the directors vision or the screenplay. Didnt that happen in LOTR? A persons dislike for PJs screenplay or vision resulted in that person criticizing Elijahs acting. Lexi must have wanted him to be beautiful in this film because he is :D drop dead gorgeous. On second viewing I really appreciated that. The screenplay as it is required top notch acting, and the acting was top notch
..
.. So, I could buy into the whole storyline and the voice overs. Elijah is able to speak a cliché and it sounds just like something the character would say. Yeah I bought it. And I liked the editing for the most part. The film is now 106 minutes. Did anyone see prior a longer version say at the festivals?
SPOILERS
I didnt find most of this film too violent or graphic and I never go to see a graphic violent film. Maybe it was the way it was filmed. I wondered if the young fellows who have a high tolerance for graphic violence found this film exciting enough. The part I actually found disturbing was the escalation of violence to outsiders
The incident at the Millwall pub with Tommy and the couple. That I thought was a wake up call
..that this film was not just a buddy flick
.changed the tone suddenly for me.
END SPOILERS
Sure hope there is a DVD because there are quite a few scenes I would like to replay or play in slow motion. Good film. Worth seeing was what my spouse said. Had something to say. :D :D
saile
Achila
09-14-2005, 08:02 AM
So did Liev Schreiber (take a risk) when he directed Everything is Illuminated, starring Elijah Wood as a solemn young man who goes to the Ukraine to thank the woman who saved his grandfathers life, and meets two half-crazy guides who specialize in tours of dead Jews. There is the old grandfather (Boris Leskin) and his grandson (Eugene Hutz), an actor who sings with a gypsy punk band and is in his first movie. The film begins as a screwball comedy and finds a trajectory straight to the beating heart of truth, and how Schreiber controls that tonal shift in his directorial debut is hard to say, but he does. I went to see the film a second time because I felt I had been paying the wrong kind of attention when I saw a screening a month ago, and I was right about being wrong. Yes, I gave it thumbs up on TV, but I wasnt focused on its greatness. I think it helps to see it twice, to understand the journey it takes.
:D
Mechtild
09-14-2005, 11:22 AM
saile, I really enjoyed your comments. I can't wait to see it, although it looks like it's going to have to be DVD for me. *sigh*
Wonderfully encouraging quote from Roger Ebert, Achila. But what's TIFF?
~ Mechtild
Achila
09-14-2005, 11:24 AM
Toronto International Film Festival (where they all are right now). Sorry Mech and all.
BTW, just meandered over to Rotten Tomatoes and EiI is at 70 -- that's a far cry better than poor Hooligans, but the bad reviews are coming in for that too. It's going to be another polarized one, it appears. There's one review on there that's unintentionally hilarious -- Emanuel Levy.com. He calls Eugene "Futz" and Elijah's hobbit "Prodo" -- I suspect (I hope) these are typos -- and calls TOL's features "unique and slightly bizarrre physical attributes" -- but he gives the film a "B", which scores it a fresh tomato. Or in this case, should that be potato? Oh well...
Mariole
09-14-2005, 12:46 PM
However could he have been in Seattle when he was in Venice and Edinburgh and London and Toronto (twice) and Orlando and New York and Chicago and Paris and wherever else???? :confused: HOW is it done???????
Bunnie, Alyon, you're onto something, here. Elijah has been using a time machine to move around. There's no other way he can accomplish this.
I postulate a huge government conspiracy. Or, perhaps, a wacky bunch of well-funded scientists in a secret institute, run by an Elijah worshipper. Yeah, that's what's happening!
Good work, Faculty! Thanks to our vigilence, an important new breakthrough has been made in science. I think we should all congratulate ourselves-- and work hard on finding that machine. I hope, while it's still occupied. ;)
Thank you for the reviews, Saile and Achila. When it is my turn? :p
ETA: Txtac, your lovely pic clearly displays how Elijah was so successful in obtaining his funding. *reaches for wallet, between gasps*
txtac
09-14-2005, 01:47 PM
Mariole wrote: ...well-founded scientists in a secret institute, run by an Elijah worshipper.
Now, now. We all know the truth deep down inside.
Right now he is only visiting this side of the vail.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Frodo%20Art%20Travesties/FrodoasCupidinPsychesRaptureBourguereaulate19thCent.jpg
honeyelf
09-14-2005, 02:03 PM
TxTac! Why does it tickle me so much that you are the one who posted that! :lol: :lol: :lol:
whiteling
09-14-2005, 02:24 PM
TxTac - man, that's hilarious! :lol:
You chose Mechtild's wonderful manip very aptly for the heavenly part of Elijah! :k
But regarding the earthy part of His Heaven and Earthiness:
Bunnie, Alyon, you're onto something, here. Elijah has been using a time machine to move around. There's no other way he can accomplish this.
Recently found top secret photo produces evidence: Elijah *has* a time machine!! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Elijahtimemachine.jpg
Sorry, I just couldn't help it! ;)
Whiteling ,,,that one was good !!!!!! :lol:
just what i need a good laugh!!!!!
thanks!!!!
WOOD
Mechtild
09-14-2005, 06:27 PM
Heavens, txtac, I am blushing that you put that up in The Faculty!!!! :o I have never put any of my more...undraped...stuff here -- because the atmosphere is so staid and academic (Faculty-ites: "HA!" :cool: ).
I made that for The Harem, where The Shrine is located, and every day is Frodo Adulation Day, all day (and all night) long. :z:
P.S.
Edited to add:
Achila, thanks for that clarification. I didn't even know it was going on. :)
Whiteling, that Time Machine manip! :p It's great! Is it from the old film or some newer version?
~ Mechtild :D
Linwë
09-14-2005, 08:04 PM
SPOILERS
I noticed the first few fights were shot with a lot of cuts and a funny kind of almost seemed like stop motion. So I could bear to watch and actually enjoy the guys' excitement. But the last fight at the climax of the film was suddenly filmed "real" - blood flying and spattering, and I could not watch a lot of it, I had to stare at my lap. But I am very wimpy about movie violence.
END SPOILERS
SPOILERS
I didnt find most of this film too violent or graphic and I never go to see a graphic violent film. Maybe it was the way it was filmed. I wondered if the young fellows who have a high tolerance for graphic violence found this film exciting enough. The part I actually found disturbing was the escalation of violence to outsiders
The incident at the Millwall pub with Tommy and the couple. That I thought was a wake up call
..that this film was not just a buddy flick
.changed the tone suddenly for me.
END SPOILERS
saile
Mechtild
09-14-2005, 08:26 PM
OT to Achila:
I just told you I hadn't been aware of the Toronto Film Festival. HA! Well, what's plastered on our front page of the paper (which I hadn't looked at)? The very same film festival! Apparently there is a film being shown at it (that's doing very well critically) with a story about a sexual harrassment suit in one of the mining towns just north of here. :rolleyes: :cool:
whiteling
09-15-2005, 03:37 AM
Whiteling, that Time Machine manip! Is it from the old film or some newer version?
Thanks! :) It's from the old 1960 version - IMVHO the more likeable and charming of the two. Do you know the new adaptation (with Jeremy Irons as chief Morlock :rolleyes: )? I thought the actor who played the main character pretty weak. But I am biased - the Rod Taylor version was one of the movies which impressed me deeply when I was a child (back then I didn't care about the fact that he isn't exactly perfect cast for playing a Victorian scientist :p). Oh, and I absolutely *loved* the Morlocks with their blueish rubber suits and the cleaning mop wigs. :lol:
*S P O I L E R*
Linwë - I enjoyed your observations on the different displays of the fight scenes. In the first half it is done with the 'stroboscope' effect you described, and this alienation definitely helps to bear the violence. Actually, it made my heart beat faster! But when this effect was repeated for the third time I found myself thinking, "Here we go again! Hey, they could modify it at least a bit..." /*S P O I L E R*
- Also, thanks, Saile, for your GSH review!
Just wanted to add a big thank-you to all of you who provided the wonderful article and photo links :k - I'm struggling to retain an overview. It is so much! I was delighted with the Filmthreat interview Bunnie had linked to.
Onscreen, his compact form and searing eyes might lend themselves to sensitive soul characterizations. But here, in Seattle, within the tobacco puffs, rock references, and self-assured confidence, Elijah Wood more resembles a headliner on the Vans Warped Tour than peaceful, cherubic Frodo Baggins.
Could someone please tell this poor foreigner, what a "Vans Warped Tour" is?
Mechtild
09-15-2005, 08:02 AM
Somewhat OT on watching fantasy adventure during one's formative years. (All in preparation for LotR!)
Whiteling, I can't help you on the Vans Warped Tour, but I just wanted to say you showed good taste as a child, liked the Rod Taylor The Time Machine. I loved it, too. (Jeremy Irons as a Morlock??? What a waste! P.S. Did you know there's a rather good suspense fantasy starring Malcolm McDowell combining a "Time Machine" sort of Orwell and Jack the Ripper coming into the late twentieth century? I can't remember what it's called.))
There were a bunch of fantasy adventure movies that were made around then that I loved watching as a kid. They would show up on TV on Saturday mornings, usually. (I was terribly fond of "Gladiator Theater" which played anything set in ancient Greece, Rome or Egypt -- including all the old Steve Reeves Hercules movies, movies about Sinbad, etc.) When my daughter was little in the early 1990's, I rented those movies again, when I could find them. I still liked them. And she likes them, too. We both still love to watch Journey to the Center of the Earth (with James Mason) and Jason and the Argonauts (which had so impressed Peter Jackson). She even loves old bible spectaculars, even though she's a self-professed atheist. I think she lumps them in with "fantasy/adventure set in the ancient world." That they don't have the greatest special effects need not be said, although they often were great for their day. What was great was the story each managed to tell and still tells. There were always main characters worth loving and villains worth hating and abiding themes running undergirding them to give them weight in spite of their dismissed genre. That's why I think the LotR films will endure, even when their special effects begin to look dated.
~ Mechtild
BunnieBugs
09-15-2005, 09:07 AM
Could someone please tell this poor foreigner, what a "Vans Warped Tour" is?
It's a tour of rock bands, leaning heavily toward "alternative rock" (I think Gogol Bordello might have been part of the tour at one point). Does that help?
Goldenberry
09-15-2005, 09:57 AM
Today's Seminar Topic: Time Machine or Time Turner? Discuss, with evidence and theories to back up your position. :p
Seattle must have been before the Edinburgh-London-NYC-Toronto-Orlando-Chicago mad whirl. I still cannot figure out how and when Paris fits in there. Either the person who spotted Lij and Pam on that plane was mistaken in the date (did he/she mean July 9 rather than Sept. 7? A European would see 9/7 as as American would 7/9. If you catch my meaning. :confused: ) OR was mistaken about the people. The latter seems highly unlikely.
I'm afraid I didn't enjoy GSH very much. :eek: :o I had a hard time accepting a senior journalism student at Harvard as being so wimpy and naive at the beginning. And the 'firms' just did not convince me of the bonds forged in their violent pastime. Plus, all the different accents kept me wondering what the heck people were saying, throughout the film!
However--I am greatly looking forward to EII, and am crushed that I will very likely have to wait until sometime next week to see it, as my parents are coming to visit this weekend. I doubt they would look favorably upon my sneaking off to see it with Peaceweaver while they are in town, and there is no chance whatsoever I can convince them to tag along, as they haven't been to a movie theater in about 30 years. :rolleyes: Except my sister did get my dad to see Saving Private Ryan when it came out, because it was about WWII.
And FYI for fanfic fans: The Faculty's originally intended (and IMHO much better) ending has been the inspiration for a series of angst-drenched and wonderfully written short stories by Oselle and baylorsr on Livejournal, under the umbrella title Birthright.
Eandme
09-15-2005, 10:29 AM
Am a little behind, sorry for that. Just wanted to say
But all in all I find that I felt we'd pinned a rare a beautiful soul to a board to look at, and in so doing destroyed part of what makes it so rare and so beautiful in the first place.
was exactly how he also came across at the line-up in Edinburgh. Beautifully put!
He was much more relaxed during the Q&A. I wonder if it isn't the autgraph+screaming fans+the rushing+the cameras flashing madly that make him uncomfortable.
I am so coming ba´ck to read your posts!
honeyelf
09-15-2005, 10:48 AM
Mechtild said: P.S. Did you know there's a rather good suspense fantasy starring Malcolm McDowell combining a "Time Machine" sort of Orwell and Jack the Ripper coming into the late twentieth century? I can't remember what it's called.))
That's Time After Time with Mary Steenbergen, isn't it? (Kind of an example of an actor not escaping his type-casting by my reckoning.)
Just so my post won't be completely OT!
Spoilers
Goldenberry, sorry to hear you didn't like GSH. I thought that Matt was completely believable. He's following in daddy's footsteps in a bid for parental attention from a parent too caught up his career to have been a role-model for his son. His wimpiness seemed like part of the story that Lexi wanted to tell, and I like that it was handled with a few deft brushstrokes, by both writers, and by Lij. He told us all we needed to know about Matt with his forehead as he listened to his dad's answering machine, and then again with his watery "Yeah" answer to his bro-in-law's querry about making it to London at last. But that was just my take on pre-London Matt. I didn't like him at that point, but the idea of him didn't bother me, if you take my meaning! ;)
honey!
Mariole
09-15-2005, 12:39 PM
Still skipping the spoilers-- thanks, everyone, for marking them. In one short month, I'll be able to join in! :z:
I wonder if it isn't the autgraph+screaming fans+the rushing+the cameras flashing madly that make him uncomfortable.
It would certainly terrify me! I do believe that EW is a sensitive, grounded person. Such excessive behavior must strike him as slightly mad.
Look, this has nothing to do with anything, but last night I dreamed the trailer for a previously unseen Elijah Wood movie. He'd made it right after The Faculty, and it had failed to get any distribution, so they were now releasing it straight to DVD. I was watching this trailer, and it was hilarious! It featured EW as the new student in the school. He had longish hair and a plaid shirt. He was standing up being questioned by the teacher, but it was a library, not a regular classroom. And for some reason, EW started to answer these sharp questions with some sort of weird, singing whine. It was like a song. Everyone in the room was cracking up, and I think I was laughing in my sleep. I wish I could remember the dialog! Anyway, EW sits down between these two other guys, who had been so entertained they were now buddies. The rest of the trailer was a series of quick cuts, but it looked like a mystery. Its title was Black Rider-- no relation to LOTR, but a reference to a shot of EW racing down some steep slope on his black bicycle-- he always rides a bike in those early movies.
Anyway, I thought, what a perfect film to release just be EII, when he has another comedic role? It was really an entertaining-looking flick, and I advise you all to watch it if you can. I'll try to beam brain waves the next time I'm asleep. If you don't want to tune in, just put a little foil on your head, and all should be well. ;)
Achila
09-15-2005, 12:48 PM
Just wanted to squee a bit with my Faculty sisters and brothers, that Pelagia and I are seeing EiI tonight at a special screening at a theater we're both members of!!! :D I have to say, I'm a bit nervous, not that *I* won't enjoy it because hey, let's face it, it's Elijah, but I SOOO want this film to do well. In any case, I know that Liev, Lij and co. have done their very best and that's enough for me.
Anyway, since we're also off for a little holiday starting on Friday, we might not be able to give a report until we're back on Sunday (or we might be so keyed up afterwards that we send it tonight -- we'll see). In either case, I hope everyone enjoys their weekend -- stay tuned for our review.
txtac
09-15-2005, 01:30 PM
Eandme wrote: I wonder if it isn't the autgraph+screaming fans+the rushing+the cameras flashing madly that make him uncomfortable.
Elijah has always said that large crowds make him nervous and uncomfortable.
Tie that in with his still not really understanding why so many people like him who do not know him, will equate to you his "deer caught in the headlights" look in large crowds. Imagine what it is like having 30,000 young hormonaly driven 13 year old fangirls running at YOU screaming at the top of their lungs and you might get a sense of what Elijah is emotionaly going through. That would terrify evan me!
Honey had a point. If you love him, give him his space. Don't intimidate him by running up to him as soon as you see him. In today's post 9-11 world, that scares the pants off of anyone. I always remember the Chinese story about the bird in the cage. The moral of the story is: If you love someone, you have to set them free. If they love you, they will return to you. Elijah will remain out in public as long as we do not unpants him in public.
Mechtild- I am still trying to print out an 8x11 glossey of that picture that I can frame and hang it on my wall. You did an excellent job on that one. I really love it.
whiteling
09-15-2005, 01:37 PM
on the expression "Vans Warped Tour"
It's a tour of rock bands, leaning heavily toward "alternative rock" (I think Gogol Bordello might have been part of the tour at one point). Does that help?
Aha! Thanks, Bunnie! :) Yep, I think Elwood would love to go on tour with GB. :cool:
P.S. Did you know there's a rather good suspense fantasy starring Malcolm McDowell combining a "Time Machine" sort of Orwell and Jack the Ripper coming into the late twentieth century? I can't remember what it's called.))
That's Time After Time with Mary Steenbergen, isn't it? (Kind of an example of an actor not escaping his type-casting by my reckoning.)
Oh yes! I've seen it not too long ago! It was funny and really off-key, and I liked it until the female main character appeared :rolleyes:. Is Mrs. Steenbergen always that annoying in her roles?
Mechtild, you named some of my childhood favourite films, especially Journey to the Center of the Earth and Jason and the Argonauts :). Best thing is, I still can enjoy them nowadays and feel immediately connected to my 'inner little Whiteling' :).
Mariole, your dream sounds fascinating. Yes, please, beam brain waves the next time you're asleep - but hang on, I am living in a different time
zone... - that could lead to snarls at the wrong time :D. Under these circumstances, I'll choose rather the foil. *Blimey!*
Goldenberry, I'm sorry to hear you didn't like GSH. It *has* its flaws.
Achila and Pelagia - have fun with EII!! :k
I'm so looking forward to your review, you lucky gals! :)
txtac
09-15-2005, 04:18 PM
This was recieved today from the Lot of Odd's mass mailer:
Dear Hoolifans
We wanted to thank you for all your efforts this past opening weekend in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. Our numbers were great on both coasts, thanks to all of you. But it's a critical time for us now - we need to build support for GSH in Chicago, and continue the great showing from last weekend in New York and LA. This is the only way we can bring GSH to Hoolifans all across the country.
We're asking you to tell your friends about GSH, and urge them to see it this weekend - especially those of you in Chicago. Forward this email to people in your address book, post your thoughts on our message board, tell your friends to visit the GSH website and keep talking about the film. Word of mouth is our best weapon, and now is the time to stand your ground.
Don't forget to watch the new "One " video by Terence Jay on www.greenstreethooligans.com, and visit www.hollywood.com for a chance to win a trip to London.
Here's to another great weekend.
The GSH Team
Goldenberry, I'm sorry to hear you didn't like GSH. It *has* its flaws.
True. It is unfortunate that other people have to be in the movie besides Elijah, but that is a flaw that we will have to learn to live with... :rolleyes:
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