I feel strangely honored to be starting Thread No. 9! Can you believe it?! The sound-track de jeur is "One Blood" (*refresh browser*) from the :z: up-coming film Hooligans. (We don't need no stinkin' Green Street modifiers!) And with the traditional Faculty blessing, I give you
The Faculty Lounge -- An Ongoing Elijah Wood Discussion x9

From tgshaw: The quote below is a version of the introduction Sheryl wrote for the Faculty Lounge thread when it first moved to KD. It's been edited to update it a bit, and to remove words such as "warn" and "excruciating" (as in "Be warned: the Faculty analyzes... in excruciating detail") because they make it sound like, well, a bad thing.

Hi there, and Welcome to the Faculty Lounge! Take a seat on a couch and check out an Elijah Wood movie. The Faculty analyzes Elijah Wood's performances, movies, and characters in detail. In the process we have been known to discuss everything from biology to whether PJ intends to evoke medieval paintings in his shots of Frodo.

An on-going debate in the Faculty is whether actors can make use of microexpressions, which are tiny changes in expression that pass by so fast people can't really see them, but that influence people's responses. The Faculty has been known to go through sections of EW's performances frame-by-frame in this debate, and then talk about what emotions he's trying to convey, why the character would feel that way, etc.

Since this thread was originally the Elijah Wood: Non-Swoon thread back at Imladris, I would like to ask that swoons here be kept to a minimum. Hobmom has a swoon thread where she puts up monthly wallpaper and does all manner of niftiness.

Basically, posters to this thread treat EW and each other with respect, and tolerate huge long posts on minutia and pure speculation- but don't require them.

Faculty research has also been responsible for a veritable explosion (one of my boss's favorite phrases ) of specialized areas of elwoodian study including Nat angst, camera angels, jaw setting, jawline acting, nostril acting, eyebrow acting, skin-fold analysis, [that muscle whose name I can never remember] analysis, "How does he do that?" moments, cloak action, Secret Sam Smiles, The One Expression, the Golden Ratio facial feature analysis, evaluation of Ed Burns' walking skills, micro-expression theory vs. repertoire theory of Elijah Wood acting, capping vs. the Gap, Try 17 vs. All I Want, Todd vs. Boy George, and whether it's possible to watch TAMTSNBN without permanent neural damage.

All that, and still no grant funding!

So find a seat, pop in a movie, and fill a cup at the water cooler (just one cup, though--Casey might still be hiding in the closet with that broom and we don't want him to get suspicious).

There's plenty of coffee, though!

Let the traditional pic-spammage begin!

Wow -- that didn't take us long, did it???

A gift for the new thread:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/screenshot1.jpg

Taken from a new page on the updated Green Street Hooligans website. :)

Oh no I'm so out of luck. Do you mean I'll have to post everything here again? I just broke my own track record here in the Faculty lounge with my last few posts...

Oh well, I brought Jonathan along anyway ...and a goat. :rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Eandme/EIIgoatpic.jpg

Honey, thank you for the new home :k!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Elijah_direct_look.jpg



Great Jonathan pic, Eandme :D

Happy Birthday, Rikka!

Are those Jonathan's glasses in Enandme's picture?

C4

Happy Birthday, Rikka!

Are those Jonathan's glasses in Enandme's picture?

No -- that's Elijah, not Jonathan.

Happy birthday, Rikka!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/premiere-007.jpg

I'm posting this one because I like him in black and white (as distinct from Black and White) too, Ylla! (Oh dear! I'm afraid I've scandalized my daughter again. I was contemplating this pic with an extremely goofy smile on my face, I'm sure, when she snuck up on me to remove my tea cup to the kitchen. Note to self: keep the volume down when listening to Stone Temple Pilots. :o )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/56.jpg

And this one because it's Rikka's birthday, and that red tie is just so festive! ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/fauxhawk.bmp

I decided to see what would happen if I clicked on that "free leather wristband" link at the Hooligans website. Low and behold, a form popped up. So I filled it out. But when I clicked 'submit' it said "No input specified" or somesuch nerd-speak. *sigh* I suppose I've just done myself out of the deal. :rolleyes:

honey!

:) A new, yet quite comfortable home to relax in. Feels good. :)

Happy Birthday Rikka (and anyone else I have missed recently! My apologies to you.)

Elijah would like all of you to join him for a birthday picture...if you dare with all them photographers!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/kv11.jpg

My gosh, these threads fill up quickly! And this, during a period of relative inactivity on Elijah’s part. I can’t imagine what it will be like when the movies start coming out! Thanks for starting the new one, honeyelf -- and I’m with you:We don't need no stinkin' Green Street modifiers!
Eandme, I adore the picture of Elijah with the goat (though he should lose the cigarette :mad: ). And I agree with you that: I also find myself squirming whenever a photographer is so overtly exploiting Elijah's "prettiness". I like best the photos of him that show a very natural beauty, the glow, something that can't be forced into a photo. And I like the ones that convey his personality – as I think the trio that you posted does. The “pinup”-type shots tend to strip him of that, IMHO, although I know that many people here feel differently.

I’m also interested to see that ylla’s favorite (and Eandme’s, apparently) from the recently posted photo shoot is the same as Achila’s and mine. It’s that broody vibe. (Oh, just WAIT until you all see Hooligans! :z: )

(We don't need no stinkin' Green Street modifiers!)
Yep right on! I still believe it was the FAN response (that means YOU) that has brought Hooligans to the USA theater. Thank you all :lol:
What a .... ahem .......interesting group we are. I broke the news tonight to my spouse that it looks like we need to make a trip to Chicago in September to see a MOVIE! He replied "one of those trips?". Yep, one of those trips. Life is short. No time to be rational or cautious. And Elijah agrees and applauds.......... The Faculty.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/elijahred.jpg

BunnieBugs........when can we purchase tickets?

Honeyelf thanks for starting the new thread. I haven't a clue on how it is done.

P.S. where is Wood? :(

saile :D :D

I saw wood lurking earlier in the week. She posted a few weeks back that she would not be here much in the summer as she was spending time with her family. Imagine that. ;)

Pelagia (I'm still pronouncing your name wrong), it looked like a pen or marker to me, even with my glasses on.

C4

it's here: Hooligans Theatrical Trailer for the USA!!! (http://media.filmforce.ign.com/media/762/762690/vids_1.html)

It's different than the (hmm, I've lost count now) third(?) trailer. Definitely tailored for American audiences.

'Kay, now wheres the trailer for Everything is Illuminated???

honey!

ETA: OK, you knew I'd be the one, didn't you? ;)

Regarding the discussion of the kinds of photos we like to see Elijah in, I'll have to say quite honestly that I enjoy both the "candid" and the "eye-candy."

I like the photos where Elijah is being himself because sometimes I feel like I can understand just a tiny bit more of him in those. And becuase he seems like such a whole person, so comfortable in his own "Silly-Humble-Passionate-Excitable" skin. (Still love that sig-line, Saile.)

But I like the eye-candy ones also. He's beautiful, and I enjoy looking at him. I like trying to figure out what character he's portrayng in the "pretty" pictures. Those pictures aren't that different from a lovely painting, or a sculpture, but they are usually a good deal better.

I can't think of any of the artsy pictures that I've seen of him that objectify him, that seek to nullify the spirit inside. But I can think of plenty of schlocky traditional "art" that does just that. I've always loathed those "art" pieces that show only a woman's torso, like that's the only part that matters. Or even if it's a man's torso. What about the spark of intelligence that animates any truly beautiful person?

Have you ever heard what Elizabeth Taylor said about beauty? She said that any woman can be beautiful; she just has to stand still and think of nothing.
Well, Elijah (not that he's a woman) never looks like he's thinking of nothing. That amazing, sparkling intelligence is always showing, and it always seems there's a whole world of thought going on in there. I like that he can look like there is so much simmering just beneath the surface. I like that he can make me a little uncomfortable with the intensity of his gaze sometimes.

I guess I can appriciate Elijah the man (the glimpses if him we get in photographs), and Elijah the male model both equally.

ETAA: OK, there are those really weird Italian Vogue pictures. Those come pretty darned close to objectifiiying him. And EW comes pretty darned close to looking like he's taken ET's immortal advice. But, I'll admit it, I like them! Bring on the trout, or the wet noodles or whatever punishment you deem appropriate. They are "hot!"

I'm goin' to bed now, before I get myself in anymore trouble! ;)

Honey, I agree with you completely. I sometimes think of those posed shots as the moment Elijah "stopped". Freeze frame. Then a second later, he was on to the next thing in his usual animated, dynamic way. As I said to Pelagia, I love him broody, as in those snaps. But I also love him smiley, silly, laughing, etc. -- you get the picture.

Man, I love that trailer. I noticed for the first time, though, that Lij's voice sounds quite nasal -- cold? allergy? smoking too much?. Someone by the name of wilde_boy_jack has capped the trailer on his/her LJ -- look for appropriately named posts from the last couple of days.


And yes, ceefour, I think you're right -- that does look like a Sharpie or some other sort of pen in his hand, not a cigarette.

A BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, RIKKA! - Wherever you are. :)

http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Rikka.gif

Thanks for setting up our new home, Honey. Lovely decorations, everyone. :)

Honey and Saile - If you haven't tracked down the original version of 'One Blood,' yet, I have it. If you PM me your e-mail addresses I'll send it to you ASAP.

Have you all heard the casting news for the musical LOTR? Just in case anyone is interested, British actor James Loye is to play Frodo. I'm in the UK, and confess I haven't heard of him. Flourish kindly sent me THIS (http://www.pulse24.com/Showbiz/Top_Story/20050725-003/page.asp) link, where there's a video clip featuring short interviews with several members of the cast, including Frodo.

Of course there will only ever be one Frolijah! :)

honeyelf, thanks for the link to the trailer. It took 45 minutes to download, but it’s worth it! For my tastes, they could have had more shots of him in The Navy Turtleneck (sigh), but they did have that great moment where he saunters down the sidewalk. Can’t wait to see it again! (I'm thinking positively and assuming that it WILL come to Philadelphia.) And BTW, the screencaps that Achila mentioned are definitely worth looking at.

ceefour wrote: it looked like a pen or marker to me, even with my glasses on. You’re right! I’m so relieved. At least I don’t have to worry about the goat being affected by second-hand smoke.

honeyelf and Achila: I guess the “posed” pix that I mainly object to are the ones where he looks, to me, surly (e.g., the first few in that recent shoot). I’ve just never cared for that look on ANY man, and on Elijah especially, it seems so totally counter to what we know about him, because the “amazing, sparkling intelligence” that you mention isn’t there. Which doesn’t mean that I like only “smiley” pix of him – I love saile’s “applause” picture.

Just popping in to say hello and subscribe to this new thread. We really do keep things moving along in here, don't we? (Or "you," I should say, because like Ylla, I mostly lurk in here because I don't have a lot to say. But I love to look! Tee hee)

Well, I hope Rikka got my birthday greeting because after noting "Ooh - we have a new thread!" I promptly posted it in the old thread :rolleyes: Thanks for pointing out my silly mistake Honey :)

Re the Empire mag interview with Elijah that I mentioned a couple of posts back - I understand you don't get this in the US until Sept - which really makes more sense seeing its the Sept issue and we're still in July!! Anyway, remembering my last pitiful attempts at scanning an article, I decided I wouldn't even attempt it, but one of my LJ friends has. She has also scanned the small GSH review by the interviewer. I am sorry to have to sully our new thread with such bad news, but this is very uncomplimentary, particularly to Elijah :( :mad: I know we're not allowed to link to LJs so if anyone would like the link just PM me :) As I mentioned before, there aren't many new revelations, just the provisional title of Lij's record lable, which is 'It's Not You It's Me Records'. It also says he's "smart enough to know he'll never be a Bruce, a Tom or a Keanu" - a truly global megastar. 'That I don't need' he says - 'I'm extremely comfortable doing what I do'. My LJ friend has not scanned the main big pic with the article because its years old - the one where he's all bronzed up. One of my least favourites, actually. I think its a poor show for a mag like Empire not to manage a new pic :rolleyes:

it looked like a pen or marker to me, even with my glasses on.

So what then?....He was ...autographing the goat??? LOL

What a .... ahem .......interesting group we are. I broke the news tonight to my spouse that it looks like we need to make a trip to Chicago in September to see a MOVIE! He replied "one of those trips?". Yep, one of those trips. Life is short. No time to be rational or cautious.

Go, Saile! I think I've got mine talked into a trip to LA in September. OK, now I just have to figure out how to get to Toronto in 2006 for that musical thing! ;)

honey!

Honey, I'll just "ditto" all you said about Elijah's photographs (although I disagree with Elizabeth Taylor :haha: ). I don't go looking for photoshoot pics, but I almost always like the ones I see. Besides the pictures themselves, I'm glad he's still doing some modeling because IMHO it affects his acting in a good way, as well as vice versa; he has a model's awareness of how he carries himself, which he can adapt to any character. But I like candid shots, too, especially ones that look as if they should be from photoshoots ;) --such as the serious one from Sundance posted awhile back. That his face can express so much even when he's not consciously trying to show any emotion is pretty amazing.

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On quick thread turnarounds: For the past few, we've been coming in at a pretty steady 4 months/1000 posts. This last one took us 2.5 months. :cool:


I'm wondering if there's any way to tie in a Chicago movie trip together with an Indiana museum visit? My ol' car might make it that far--once :eek: !


saile--Thanks for posting at TORN for me. I could read the thread enough to see that someone did pick up on "the nod" pic, which is what I wanted, so the mission is accomplished. :) But I didn't realize you hadn't posted before -- :o sorry to drag you out of lurkdom, and thanks even more for adding the post.

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I don't have many Elijah-as-Elijah pics for the new thread, so how about three Frolijah's? For the new thread and for birthday greetings to two "Hope you're still out there" people: Rikka and Estella Rose :k .

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/198c1360.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/1972b730.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/19934920.jpg

In a way, that was a bit of housecleaning, as I have only one Paint Shop redone version of each of those caps, while I often end up doing a whole bunch of versions of one frame when I find one I enjoy working with. I have a growing backlog of Frodo's, Casey's, Huck's and Jonathan's that I'm trying to figure out how to organize. If I keep putting them into my "little, quick-loading" file on the website, it won't be little or quick loading much longer. ;)

Part of my absence lately has been because of (again :rolleyes: ) trying to get a non-JRRT-non-EJW website active. At the moment it has close to 600 webpage backgrounds available for download. There's now a Paint Shop 9 available as an upgrade, and it can do things #8 can't. :eek: Someone stop me!! :eek:

Now that that site's at least published (although there's a lot to do yet), I'm going to try to devote this weekend to getting some August additions to the Frodo site--some are started already. I haven't shot screencaps for so long that I may have to get back into practice. I don't have my speakers hooked up to my computer at the new apartment yet, but there's one recent character where that's not a drawback. ;)

Hullo, TG! :) You weren't there and then you were all of a sudden. And I think ET was wrong too.

Thanks for the pointerst to the Empire article, and the movie review, Shireling.

Who is this "global megastar" Bruce mentioned alongside Tom and Keanu?

ETA: Who was it asked about Matt's voice a the beginning of the trailer? It's part of the character. It changes a by the end of the film, a changes back again very briefly. I didn't like pre-London Matt much, and if there'd been more of him in the film it might have got really annoying!

spoilers here maybe:

And I think that that reviewer missed the whole point of the movie. All along, right from the beginning in fact, Matt is warned off the firm, by everyone he encounters, so I wouldn't say Lexi approached the story with 'rose colored glasses.' And the whole point of casting - what was the reviewers phrase? Scrawny brainbox Wood was that he NOT "look" the hooligan type! The point is that these men come in all shapes and sizes! Grrrrr!

honey!

And now I really HAVE to go help my dauther move out of the house, and up to the big city for art school! :eek: :(

Who is this "global megastar" Bruce mentioned alongside Tom and Keanu? Bruce Willis, maybe? I had thought that he mentioned Brad Pitt, but I have not read the article yet.

Someone was asking about tickets for the first weekend of GSH (I can't recall who it was, I'm afraid :o and I'm in a huge rush): The official GSH website now has theatres listed for LA, NYC and Chicago (click "see the movie"). I would think you could pick up tickets at Fandango.com soon, if not now.

If you were referring to the premieres themselves, the only one that is open to the public is the one in Chicago (somewhere I have potential dates for all the premieres, if anyone is interested), which is a benefit. I'm afraid that I don't know where one would get tickets for that, but I will pass along any information that I get.

BTW, the message board at the official GSH website is up and running now (sort of -- there's nothing really on there, yet, and I registered but haven't gotten my confirmation email yet). But I still haven't managed to get completely through the process to get the precious, coveted leather wristband... :(

"global megastar" Bruce
I think he's related to "dread pirate" Roberts. [sorry, couldn't resist :o ]

The point is that these men come in all shapes and sizes! Grrrrr!
:rolleyes: Sounds a lot like the reviewer who hinted that guys on the small side had been cast as extras so they'd be closer to "brainbox Wood's" size, while Lexi made it clear that they'd been chosen because most of them were real-life hooligans. :rolleyes:

:) :) :) :)

Good evening Faculty. Just a reminder that tickets go on sale Monday for the LOTR exhibit in Indianapolis. A date of Saturday, October 21st has been picked by a group of 4 of us and our guests so far. It would be awesome to have as many KD'ers and other LOTR fans there as possible. Head on over to the KD Festival thread and post if you can make that date. I know I am totally geeked to be going and to meet those who are planning to be there.

:) :) :) :)

A date of Saturday, October 21st has been picked

Do you mean the Saturday, October 22nd? :)

So this is why I stopped getting notifications! :)

Well, I'm glad you caught up, Hobmom! :D

Do you mean the Saturday, October 22nd?

Yes I do! Thank you for catching that, SandCastles. I think it's time to call it a night and go to bed.

Shireling, thanks for the info on the Empire article. Now, that review seems fairly unjustified. :rolleyes: Could it be that the reviewer's dislike of the film's topic made it impossible for him to keep his mind open? He seemed determined not to be convinced by the movie, if you get my meaning.


Tg, nice Paint Shop jobs :). I was fiddling about with Photo Shop, to see what I could make of my drawing and thought a rosy "stucco" Frodo fitting for Estella Rose's (belated) birthday wish --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/birthday_frodo_300dpi_stuck.jpg


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Honey, good luck for you and your daughter!

Thank-you, Honey, for starting this new thread...
My small, but not insignificant, contribution to the beautiful picspam :-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/wendylady1/HooligansElijah1.jpg
From the new Green Street Hooligans poster...

I can see I will have to be buying the new Empire mag tomorrow !!

Who is this "global megastar" Bruce mentioned alongside Tom and Keanu?

I'm afraid I'm not really sure Honey but I assumed he meant Bruce Willis. The actual quote was "Wood is down-to-earth about his career - savvy enough to exploit his new found stardom to get projects like GS & EII under his belt, but smart enough to know he'll never be a Bruce, a Tom, a Keanu - a truly global megastar. "

"Wood is down-to-earth about his career - savvy enough to exploit his new found stardom to get projects like GS & EII under his belt, but smart enough to know he'll never be a Bruce, a Tom, a Keanu - a truly global megastar. "And did anyone else find this as extremely condescending as I did?? Of course, we've had this conversation many times, but while on one hand, I wouldn't want to see him have to surmount this sort of fame, on the other, I have a hard time understanding why the heck he couldn't attain it? He's more talented than all of them put together. Keanu in the same sentence is an insult (sorry any of you who like him but gee whiz...). Just because he's short??? Tom Cruise is only 2 inches taller than he is. And I bet he wins an Academy Award before any of those "megastars" do.

Yeah, I know. Blah blah blah. Preaching to the choir here. Just ignore me. ;)

Elijah's smart enough and wise enough to not want to be a truly global megastar, so he doesn't aim his career that way. This reporter seems to be one of those people who can't understand that there are actually people like that--if someone isn't a truly global megastar, it must be because he can't :rolleyes: . Very interesting that he doesn't mention "Johnny," who happens to be at the top of just about every celebrity-related list this year and is certainly a hotter commodity than the three he named. That says to me that his definition of a "truly global megastar" is rather limited.

If Elijah does end up in those ranks, IMHO it'll be by Johnny's route: working in interesting films with interesting people until "all of a sudden" the globe happens to notice that "#@%!, the guy can act! (And he's not too hard on the eyes, either.)"

Elijah probably could care less if he became a "truly global megastar". :rolleyes:

As we all know what Elijah is is a first rate 'actor'. I'd be much happier to see him acknowledged for his genuine acting talent than make it as some over-rated so-called mega star. Tom Cruise ;)

Real actors like Elijah can have fine, highly respected, life-long careers filled with interesting and important films rather than relatively meaningless 'blockbusters'. And it seems that is what Elijah is aiming for. Good for him! :)

Still admiring, mothering, coddling and defending Elijah for over four years now

very nice :)

I'm wondering if there's any way to tie in a Chicago movie trip together with an Indiana museum visit? My ol' car might make it that far--once :eek: !
Tg --- I wish it was possible but the LOTR exhibit opens Oct 6 and well... the movie GSH opens Sept 9, so for it to last until an October weekend may be Wishful thinking. I am going to make the Sept 9 date in Chicago ( a favorite city of mine for many years). Anyone else???? Beware Shelbyshire et el I am going to try for the October 22nd date for the LOTR exhibit in Indy as well. I would really like to put a few faces with these names (and find out if I have pronounced them correctly and their origin).

TG , your "dread pirate Roberts" reference was too funny. Always a favorite movie of mine and one that my family quotes often. Tee hee. :D
HOBMOM so glad you kept up with us. I love that you add the direct link to your site. :k
Honeyelf, good luck with your daughter's move. Good news/bad news....Those wonderful daughters leave home(painful for sure) and make wonderful lives for themselves independent of us but still remain daughters. Myself having a daughter that has travelled the world but still remains close...... What a treasure!
Whiteling and TG what lovely photoshop contributions! :D I really enjoy your creativity. The subject matter requires constant research!

Achila..TG...I love your insight into Elijah and his career. And Honeyelf and Hobmom.....and ................How grounded he is! Oh what they hey..let's give some credit to his Mother.

:D Taking 2 weeks off and will be without the internet! :eek: :eek: Look forward to catching up then. My friends......be well.
saile

Hello, Faculty-ites!

Well, heck! No wonder I hadn't been getting any reply notifications. I was blaming my computer. That sure was fast, getting to another new thread.

Oh --saile, I loved the shot of EW applauding, wearing the red shirt; it's a great face shot. And Eandme, I loved the "Jonathan with Goat" shot!

Honey, thanks for opening the new thread -- and thanks for making me scroll back a few times to look at that highly arresting black and white "up-against-the-bole-of-a-palm" shot. (It's not an elephant's trunk, anyway.) I found it chock-full of interesting symbolism. Nice pants, too....

You wrote,

(Oh dear! I'm afraid I've scandalized my daughter again. I was contemplating this pic with an extremely goofy smile on my face, I'm sure, when she snuck up on me to remove my tea cup to the kitchen.
Ha! I, too, jumped when I saw that my daughter was standing behind me, looking over my shoulder during my second scroll. I felt quite caught out. :o

I remember us having a big discussion about the comparative merits (and demerits) of studio vs. candid shots. For the large majority, I believe the final call was that studio shots were fine, as long as he kept his shirt buttoned and didn't lie around on floral-upholstered sofas.

And now I must look a this new trailer! :p

~ Mechtild

Honey, thanks for opening the new thread -- and thanks for making me scroll back a few times to look at that highly arresting black and white "up-against-the-bole-of-a-palm" shot. (It's not an elephant's trunk, anyway.) I found it chock-full of interesting symbolism.

:confused: I know I'm probably just distracted by the beautiful boy, and his
Nice pants, too....
but what symbolism??

honey! (who really really liked him lying about on the floral-upholstered sofa!)

honey! (who really really liked him lying about on the floral-upholstered sofa!)Ditto and he could happily do it again!

Ditto and he could happily do it again!Oh, please! :z: Only this time, they can skip the airbrushing. I don't know what on earth possessed them to airbrush perfection. :rolleyes: I even have my own pet nickname for that shot... ;) Whoops -- wait a minute. What thread is this again? :o :D

My employer has blocked the filmforce site where the new Hooligans trailer is posted. :eek: :mad: :rolleyes:

Fortunately, as of last Monday, we now have high speed internet at home. :cool: So I merely have to wait another 7 hours or so. :D

The quotes from Empire do seem as though the interviewer/reviewer is a bit of a troll ;) , at least where Elijah is concerned, so I may opt for the time-honored tradition of reading it at Borders over a cafe mocha, rather than purchasing. It's strange that a magazine that awarded him a Best Actor nod for LOTR is now sorta putting him down. :confused:

I think we're all in agreement with the :z: that Elijah will pursue, and achieve, the Johnny Depp career route. :)

Oh, please! :z: Only this time, they can skip the airbrushing. I don't know what on earth possessed them to airbrush perfection. :rolleyes: I even have my own pet nickname for that shot... ;) Whoops -- wait a minute. What thread is this again? :o :DNow I know why I love you, Bunnie -- you're my girl! :D You too, honeyelf. :k

BunnieBugs, you wrote:

Oh, please! Only this time, they can skip the airbrushing (...) I even have my own pet nickname for that shot...
1. What air-brushing?
2. What is the pet name for that shot?

Do I need to PM you? :p

*runs off to bring up that shot, nice and big*

~ Mechtild

It's strange that a magazine that awarded him a Best Actor nod for LOTR is now sorta putting him down.

I think that may have been a readers' choice type award, showing once again that fans have exquisite taste!

I bought the Empire mag and was v. disappointed with the review - however it's nice that EW is important to merit a feature and a byline on the cover.

It's clear from reading the review that whiteling's right - this guy has let his prejudice cloud his judgement. I hope that other UK reviewers are more clear-sighted.

Empire isn't that well respected as a review magazine - they've made lots of mistakes in the past - so I don't think UK filmgoers will take the 2/5 scoring too much into account. :z:

1. What air-brushing? For that shoot (which appeared in "Angeleno" magazine), all the shots received airbrushing, removing any trace of a line or shadow (i.e. under his eyes) from his face. He looks beautiful, of course, but not quite like himself.

2. What is the pet name for that shot?

Do I need to PM you? :p
Well, I don't know what anyone else calls it, but I do have my own not-repeatable-in-polite-company term for it.

Ahem.

In other news, it has come to my attention that the downloadable links for the Green Street Hooligans trailer have been removed. If you didn't snag it, and would like the 43.87 MB Quicktime version, I have uploaded it here (http://anonym.to/?http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=350HEIZSYYEUQ0R1CU11GJLPYX). It is a YouSendIt link, good for only a week. :)

Have we mentioned that Elijah is on the cover of the latest issue (soon to be released issue?) of Flaunt Magazine? http://www.flaunt.com/flaunt.html

The article is about EII and is called (get ready for it) The Leading Man. Hee hee. Take that, Empire! ;)

ETA: Making this big so everyone will notice it -- You can find the Empire article about Hooligans and the review at the LJ of _kindling. Look for her July 29 (article) and July 30 (review) posts.

Oh, Bunnie, thanks so much for giving us late-comers a chance to see the trailer. :k I really enjoyed it.

But what was different in it from the one that came out a few weeks ago? I only saw that one once, so I can't remember (I still haven't figured out how to save a clip to our hard drive; the "right click and save" function doesn't present itself when clicked).

Also, thanks for telling me what you meant about the airbrushing. I thought you meant that they had airburshed it to the point that they had altered his face in some significant way, and that I (dopily) hadn't noticed it. :rolleyes: ;)

Random, I am hoping to read that review, too, and see what you and others are talking about.

~ Mechtild

Oh, Bunnie, thanks so much for giving us late-comers a chance to see the trailer. :k I really enjoyed it.

But what was different in it from the one that came out a few weeks ago?
Well, there are some different shots, and I'd say that this trailer concentrates a lot more on the friendship and loyalty angle. It's hard to say specifically what is different about it, but I like it a lot! And you're welcome. :)

EDIT: Thought I'd let you know that the GSH website has been updated, and that you can now sign up for the free wristband. When you answer the question about Matt's sister, only use her first name or they'll tell you you're wrong. :rolleyes:

Bunnie said: When you answer the question about Matt's sister, only use her first name or they'll tell you you're wrong.

:lol: You, too? Who do they think think they are messing with? We're Elijah-GEEKS! Thoroughness is part of the deal!

honey!

:lol: You, too? Who do they think think they are messing with? We're Elijah-GEEKS! Thoroughness is part of the deal!

honey!
Hee! You should have heard me squawk, "WHAT?" when they said I was incorrect and I thought I'd just blown my chance at getting a wristband. :o I'm sure the neighbors heard it. Heh.

BTW, those new photos of Lij for Flaunt Magazine were taken by Warwick Davis. He already has them in his portfolio, on his website.

http://www.mfilomeno.com/warwick_saint/E_Wood.html

I didn't realize this, but this same photographer is the one who took the photos of Viggo when they had an article about him in the mag (for Hidalgo).

BTW, those new photos of Lij for Flaunt Magazine were taken by Warwick Davis. He already has them in his portfolio, on his website.

http://www.mfilomeno.com/warwick_saint/E_Wood.html

I didn't realize this, but this same photographer is the one who took the photos of Viggo when they had an article about him in the mag (for Hidalgo).Yes! But isn't it Warwick Saint?

He's also the same photographer that took the shots of Elijah a few years back with the palm fronds and the green wallpaper. You know... these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/045.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/058.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/elijahnew5.jpg

Plus, there were a few b&w shots, the most memorable of which were the ones with the mirror:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/011.jpg

Yes! But isn't it Warwick Saint?DUH! This is my brain. This is my brain on Elijah. Any questions???

Warwick Davis is a "little person", who starred in such movies as "Willow". Yes, Bunnie, of course, it's Warwick Saint.

Those pics weren't in his portfolio. But he obviously likes this particular subject -- he photographs him very well (who wouldn't???).

Wow -- And Warwick has got to be a pretty unusual name! I only remember this one because I have that file of photos on my hard drive labelled with the photographer's name.

I found some new stills from EII today, including these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/illuminated02.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/illuminated03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/illuminated04.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/illuminated05.jpg

Aren't they lovely?

Oh, I do hope I don't have trouble finding this film somewhere nearby! I think it would kill me if I had to miss both GSH and EII because their releases were too limited!

Super pictures, Bunnie! Is he looking through Lista's ring in that second one? Why don't you think this movie will get wide distribution? :confused: :eek: Love the first one! Very nice. Too bad they aren't a little bigger. I can't wait to see this movie!

Why don't you think this movie will get wide distribution? :confused: :eek: It was listed as "Limited release" a month or so ago. I'm thinking it's going to be like ESOTSM, which opened in 1300 or so theatres.

Is he looking through Lista's ring in that second one?I was just having this discussion on my LJ! That is the conclusion that most people are jumping to (gosh, I wonder why? :p ), but I think it looks like something solid. I haven't figured out quite what it is, but it seems to have a knob or something on the top. Is it too small to be a pocket watch? I dunno. Why don't you think this movie will get wide distribution? :confused: :eek:Well, a combination of things. First, it's listed as being scheduled for "limited release". Second, ComingSoon.net had the release dates as Sept. 16 for NYC and LA, and Sept 23 for the "top ten markets". Now, I just checked, and ComingSoon has removed that second date. I can't decide whether that's good or bad. :( Too bad they aren't a little bigger. Don't worry -- I have my eyes peeled for the large versions. ;)

...but I think it looks like something solid. I haven't figured out quite what it is, but it seems to have a knob or something on the top. Is it too small to be a pocket watch? I dunno.
It looks too big to be the ring Lista gives him, which has to be very small. I'm r-e-a-l-l-y hoping we see the incident with the ring, though. :z: Lista tries to push it onto Jonathan's little finger, but it's too small. Alex says that Jonathan has "many kinds of pain" but doesn't show any of them (somehow Alex can tell, though). Is that a perfect Elijah Wood moment or what :cool: :z: ?

A small pocket watch would be a possibility... I'd have to go back through that part of the book again to remember any other objects (assuming they follow the book, which isn't a given). The background looks too dark to be Lista's, so maybe it's from when they're taking things out of the box later?

Great pictures though, Bunnie--I have to guess that no one's looking at Jonathan in the first one, since he's let his ramrod straight posture slide. Possibly watching Alex walk up to Lista's house? OTOH, I love how Jonathan's using his feet in the last one--exactly what someone on the short side would do if he wanted to sit up very straight. I may have to add that one to a group of pics I'm getting ready to put on the website, highlighting several Jonathan subtleties.


On the release, I wouldn't be surprised if it's something like ESOTSM, which was one of the movies our big multi-plex devoted one screen to as an "exclusive". ESOTSM got enough exposure that it certainly got noticed far beyond the art house crowd, but didn't open on a gazillion screens.


And I'd love to know the name of the fine actor playing Sammy Davis Junior, Junior. I'm more impressed every time a new pic comes out. :p Such superb depiction of deep emotion! :haha:

I was just having this discussion on my LJ! That is the conclusion that most people are jumping to (gosh, I wonder why? ), but I think it looks like something solid. I haven't figured out quite what it is, but it seems to have a knob or something on the top. Is it too small to be a pocket watch? I dunno.

On looking at it again, it could be Yankle D's amber ring with the ant in it.

On looking at it again, it could be Yankle D's amber ring with the ant in it.Oh, now, that would make sense! I haven't read it (and therefore don't know exactly what you're talking about), but your description makes sense! I had the impression, at first, and it was something liquid that he was looking through. So, amber would fit, as it would be semi-transparent. And I think what I saw as a knob is really just a trick of the light and is just a reflection on metal. I'll bet you're right about it, Honey! :)

Warwick Davis, as a young man (teenager actually) also appeared in "Return of the Jedi" as Wicket P. Warwick (the "leading" Ewok who finds Leia in the forest). Interesting that he should later turn up to photograph dyed-in-the-wool Star Wars fan EJW huh? Small world....

Warwick Davis, as a young man (teenager actually) also appeared in "Return of the Jedi" as Wicket P. Warwick (the "leading" Ewok who finds Leia in the forest). Interesting that he should later turn up to photograph dyed-in-the-wool Star Wars fan EJW huh? Small world....Um, no -- sorry -- that was my mistake. The photographer's name is Warwick Saint. As you pointed out correctly, Warwick Davis is an actor.

Honeyelf, you wrote:

:rolleyes: What liberal arts college do you call 'alma mater', Mech? ;)
I was homeschooled, of course. No institution would have me.

Naaah. My parents were strict, respectable, upstanding folk and so were the schools I attended. They cannot be blamed.
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(P.S. Honey, as a favour, if you wouldn't mind, might you edit out your quote of my silly comment in your post above, #48? :) I was in a frolicsome mood then but now that I am home from my day at work, all my frolicsome-ness has dissipated and now I am feeling repentant. :rolleyes: I already have edited my smarty-pant remarks out of my original post. Thank you very much.)

~ Mechtild :o

Your wish is my command, Mech. But we all get frolicksome here from time to time. I thought it was funny!

Did you all get the latest missive from Odd Lot? It discussed a "contest" (more of a drawing,) and the updates to the GSH website. Says it'll be about a week for our wristbands to be mailed.

ETA: They also announced that you can down-load "One Blood" for 99cnets over at I-Tunes, and it will be getting some radio play too!

honey!

Eandme--I'm at work so just had a quick glimpse at each of the pics. What I found interesting was that it seems (to me, at least) that the majority of the photos aren't of Elijah but of Jonathan. Exceptions are the ones where he's playing with the magnification effect of Jonathan's glasses. I know he takes a lot of non-character photos of himself, too, but I'm wondering if in this case it's part of his getting to know the character? When I first saw the one you posted here--before I read what you'd written--I assumed it was a screencap from the movie, of Jonathan holding a camera. (There is a tiny bit of Frodo in that one, though, isn't there? ;) )

Great set of pics... I'm not sure how to ask this, but do you know if they were meant to find their way onto the web? It might make a difference in whether I decide to copy them or not...

Sorry, I have no idea. I found them at Elijahfanforums. It didn't even cross my mind that they might be stolen from somewhere, but as it is you have got me thinking... :rolleyes: I don't know how they got out. I could ask the person who posted them on EFF.

TGShaw asked: Great set of pics... I'm not sure how to ask this, but do you know if they were meant to find their way onto the web? It might make a difference in whether I decide to copy them or not...

They weren't meant for public viewing. They were part of that batch posted to a web-site by one of Elijah's friends for sharing with his friends, that then subseqeuntly got spread all over the web.

Oops. I didn't know that. Do you think we should still keep them up, or should I delete my post? :confused:

I thought you might enjoy seeing this article, which was scanned from the European (I think) music magazine "Q":

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/LordoftheStrings.jpg

I'm glad he's still pursuing this! And if it's true that it will debut "later this year", that would have to be soon, wouldn't it? What a busy lad he's going to be! :cool:

EDITED TO ADD: I was just pointed toward this great article (http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10632) on ComingSoon.net, an interview with Elijah about his role in GSH. Go read! :cool:

From the article Bunnie linked to: Needless to say, Wood is using his turn as Frodo as a springboard into doing films that he wants to do, whether it be a butt-kicking gang member in Hooligans, or a deadly cannibal in Sin City. At age 24 he already has a great career behind him, and an even better one in front.

*Happy dance*

ETA: And then just the pertinent bits from an interview with Eugene Hutz which I can't link too because of language:
SD: Everything Is Illuminated is your first film. Were you familiar with the novel beforehand?
EH: I actually was reading it when they called me.

SD: Really?
EH: Yeah, a friend of mine told me to check it out, because the way I write, with a sort of freewheeling treatment of English, is like one of the characters in the book. And there was some similarity. It just happened that I never learned English properly. So when I write, sometimes there are syntax mistakes. But, you know, that's just how it went.


SD: How did you score the role of Alex?
EH: I got a call from the movie production to use our music for the movie. So I went to negotiate, and talked about music for about 10 minutes. And then the director leans over and says, "You ever done any acting, by any chance?" And I was like, "Heh, heh, heh. I think I know what you have in mind. Just let me do it, man."

---

SD: What was it like working with Elijah Wood?
EH: The first time we met on shoot in Prague, he asked me about the band, 'cause he's a huge music lover.


SD: I've heard that.
EH: I told him about the band and he was like, "So you probably like Jon Spencer Blues Explosion." And I was like, "Well, you probably like The Cramps!" He was great.

SD: Did you ever call him Frodo?
EH: I've never seen that ***king movie.

I am SO happy that he is really going ahead with this scheme of his...

I remember thinking a few years ago, after FOTR came out, when I heard what an utter geek he is about his music, that the best thing he could do with all his new found wealth, was to invest it in some sort of business venture, that would provide him with an income/alternative career, should the acting roles dry up, or he lose interest in the acting game...

The only thing I could think of at the time, that would be an obvious dead cert for him was opening his own record label...he could spend all his time going to see new bands, which he does anyway, and make good money out of it, not to mention a rewarding job should things go awry...now here he is doing just that !!

Eandme
Do you think we should still keep them up, or should I delete my post?
I remember seeing all the pics from this person's photo-hosting account, and all the furore that followed with the end result that the pics were taken down...but not before they had been passed all around the Internet...
My own feeling is the same as the general consensus was at the time that these ARE private pics, and so, whilst the friend was supremely naive in putting them up without password protection, they really should remain private...even though they are up for all the world to see at Elijahfanforums, and probably loads of other unscrupulous sites too, no doubt...

I say delete !!

...he could spend all his time going to see new bands, which he does anyway, and make good money out of it, not to mention a rewarding job should things go awry...
It sounds like, as in his acting, making money isn't his biggest interest. Recording bands that otherwise wouldn't have had a chance. Kind of like making independent movies? ;) Another opportunity to admire his values, IMHO. :cool: But like with good independent movies, if he discovers a band that makes big bucks for him and them, so much the better!!

Thanks for the articles/interviews, Bunnie and Honey (isn't that a nice pair of names? :) )

Lots of good stuff in the ComingSoon article, with my favorite part being: the leading actor in three of the biggest films of all time... (emphasis added) ;)

I say delete !!
Yes, I think it would be "the Faculty thing" to do. :)

I don't think those EII pics Eandme posted were in that set that were 'accidentally' posted to the web - those were of private get togethers with friends, and were very casual. (Yes, I saw them before the information circulated about where they had come from.) Was there a second unintentional release of photos after that, by some one else, that contained these photos? These are all only of Elijah, taken by Elijah, and in a completely different setting. I'm scanning my brain for information on where I first saw these, and I can't remember, but I'm almost certain it was quite legitimate. I could still be wrong, but given their nature I'm not anxious if they stay posted here.

I don't think those EII pics Eandme posted were in that set that were 'accidentally' posted to the web - those were of private get togethers with friends, and were very casual. (Yes, I saw them before the information circulated about where they had come from.) Was there a second unintentional release of photos after that, by some one else, that contained these photos? These are all only of Elijah, taken by Elijah, and in a completely different setting. I'm scanning my brain for information on where I first saw these, and I can't remember, but I'm almost certain it was quite legitimate. I could still be wrong, but given their nature I'm not anxious if they stay posted here.Actually, Narya, these are from the same website as the ones you saw. Elijah had his own album of personal photos on that site, including a large number that he took during his time in Prague and during filming. These are his own, personal photos, never intended for public viewing.

I'm certainly OK with them coming down. :) I've removed the post with the pictures from view for now.

Thank you for taking the pictures down. I can resist anything, except temptation.

C4

Thanks, Narya for that decision - it's only respectful towards Elijah's privacy :)!

Bunnie, I loved the Q article and the ComingSoon one :k! Thank you for posting. *joins Honey's happy dance*


Over at A&F I found this new pic of an Aids Ad which is using celebrities (photographed by the famous Peter Lindbergh). One of them is TOL -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/ElijahAIDSAd.jpg

I think this ad is quite touching, indeed. Those eyes tell more than 1,000 words.
Also at A&F there is a little article on the campaign. I couldn't make the scan big enough for you to read it, sorry. You will have to go there by yourself ;).

The Everything is Illuminated poster is now available for sale. Buy it HERE (http://www.movieposter.com/poster/MPW-15158/Everything_is_Illuminated.html)

It's 27" x 40"! Theater lobby-sized! That's absolutely huge!

trailerhwhere'sthetrailer

Honey, I have been scanning the internet (almost) constantly for the last two weeks hoping for signs of a trailer. Surely it can't be much longer!

Whiteling, here is the article that goes along with that AIDS campaign ad. It contains further proof of what a lovely human being this man is:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/youthAIDSElijah.jpg



And, last, but not least, there is to be a preview screening of Everything Is Illuminated on August 30 in LA:

More information here. (http://ifp.org/calendar/eventitem.php?chapter=2&id=1021)

He said "pandemic"....(we need a drooly smilie)

In the immortal words of the Wicked Witch of the West...."I'm melting.....!" ;)

He said "pandemic"....(we need a drooly smilie)

Even better than "germane" :cool: .

Fans of some movie stars might consider us a bit... odd... do you think? :lol:

Even better than "germane" :cool: .

Fans of some movie stars might consider us a bit... odd... do you think? :lol:ODD???? US??????!!!

Odd? Pourqoi? I am still giddy with excitement over a recent interview in which he said "poignant". I've been wondering for the longest time how to pronounce that word. Trust Elijah though to be the one to teach me...

Found this on LJ -- thought you guys would get a kick out of it. It was a little story by the author Dave Eggers --

You Know How to Spell Elijah by Dave Eggers.

You are at the airport, airless, and sitting in a black faux-leather chair near your departure gate. There is a girl, about twelve, sitting in a similar chair, across the wide immaculate aisle, and she wants to know how to spell Elijah. She is working on a crossword in Teen magazine, and is squinting at it, chewing her inner mouth. She is flanked by her parents, and soon appeals to them for help. Her father is burly and bearded, her mother tall and thin. Her mother, who reminds you of a praying mantis, answers her daughter’s question this way: ‘It’s easy, Dakota: E-L-I-S-H-A.’ And though you have your own things todo, your own Boating Week to read and your bagel to eat, you can no longer concentrate on anything but this young girl’s crossword puzzle, quickly being polluted by the advice of these people she calls her parents. (And the young girl is working not in pencil – fool! – but in pen.) You are burning to tell her the truth about the young actor’s name-spelling, but fear you would embarrass or undermine her mother, which you don’t want to do. Besides, you think, the girl’s father will surely correct the mother; isn’t that the beauty of the two-parent system? Indeed it is, for here he is now, leaning over, inspecting the crossword like a good dad. And now he is putting his glasses on even, and finally he tells he, ‘No, Dakota. I’m pretty sure it’s A-L-I-G-A.’ ****ing Christ! You let out a quick desperate cough. These people, you think, cannot be serious. This poor girl, stuck forever in a dim, ill-spelling world, nowhere to turn. She’ll never know the spelling of Elijah, or Enrique, or even Justin or J.C. Should you intervene? Isn’t it your duty? Don’t those who know the truth have a responsibility to stop the dissemination of untruths? Standing idly by is tantamount to complicity, a partnership in ignorance! You must step in. You can do so good-naturedly. You can do so without upsetting the family unit, the sanctity thereof. But you’re eighteen feet away, making it impossible without implying that you were paying much too much attention to the girl’s crossword than would seem casual or proper. They’ll assume you have an unhealthy interest in Teen magazine and its cover boys. And really now, what were you doing, listening in to her spelling request? Why had you directed your attention her way? What’s wrong with you anyway? Isn’t your own life complicated enough? Is your own existence so free of mistakes that you need to seek thyem out in strangers at airports, inserting yourself into the life of a twelve-year-old with a crush on a hobbit-playing actor? No wonder you’re on your way to a spa in Palm Desert. You damn well need the rest.

Hallo ladies!!!!!!

A new home?? you have been busy!!!!!
how will i find time to read all your intresting posts!!!!!!

Have mised you all very much!!!!!! :k :k

The summer vaccation whent buy realy good!!!!
Exept from the missing of internet ,you and mising all news about Elijah!!! :p :D
But now i am back!!!!! ;) :)

I will be back with a picture for our new home!!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Wood! Welcome back, dear :k - we missed you too!
Glad you had a great holiday.

Bunnie, many thanks for posting the Aids campaign scan - yeah, he's adorable, isn't he? And his word choice is always so germane :D.

Achila, what a great Elijah-spelling story :D! (I bet most German people pronounce his name wrong as well.)

thanks whiteling!!!! :k :k

it feels good to be back!!!!

wood

Welcome back, Wood! Glad you had a good holiday! :) :)

Achila--Great story. The parents are evidently not Bible readers, either. Elijah was Elisha's mentor--when Elijah was taking off in the fiery chariot, he threw his cloak [pre-Lorien or post-Lorien? :confused: ] to Elisha as a sign for him to take over the job, thus beginning the field of research regarding cloak action. I have no idea who "Aliga" is. :D

I'm a Virgo, as well as a Tolkien book/movie geek, and the combination leads to an upset stomach and headache if you hear a mistake and don't correct it. :rolleyes: When I was at one of my later viewings of FotR (it was in a second-run theater so must have been about my 20th or 21st time), a mother behind me was telling her daughters that most of the scenery was from Australia. :rolleyes: She also thought that Legolas couldn't be an elf because he was tall :eek: ! And, yes, I did straighten things out for her :o .

Just saw somewhere that the trailer to EII will be shown with Jim Jarmusch's Broken Flowers (which stars Bill Murray). So I'm sure the web version won't be far behind.

Achila, I just saw that news about the EiI trailer too!

Hey, I'll be in Boston on Saturday! Anybody want to join me to see the trailer? Umm, I mean Broken Flowers?

TGShaw, you are too funny! :)

Love that little snippet about the airport and the crossword puzzle!

Love that TOL is a "wordy," too! There should be a word for that, and there probably is, but it's just past "chicken-thirty" here, and I'm crawlin' back to bed for another hour or so. I can't think just now!

honey!

Hey, I'll be in Boston on Saturday! Anybody want to join me to see the trailer? Umm, I mean Broken Flowers? Honey, ylla lives in Boston -- you should email her if you haven't already. And btw, Broken Flowers opens tomorrow so we should be seeing that trailer any day now.

Oh No

Honey, in Boston on Saturday...Oh I wish I had known that earlier...unfortunately I have to work this weekend! Why is it everytime Honey is near me I'm working?...chalk it up to bad luck****sigh*****

I had to laugh at that story Achila posted about the airport.
I had a similar thing happen in a restaurant recently (similar in the fact my Elijah radar was in gear)
I saw a young woman sitting at a table alone reading Everything is Illuminated and I just had to go over to talk to her!!! Needed to find out if she was a fellow fan....well after a few seconds of trying to connect with her, I discovered she wasn't too receptive and I quickly retreated!!!
I swear someday, someone, will be going to court to get a restraining order out on me!!

Love the fact Elijah is doing important PSAs!!!
and his vocab.....well...I'm with you Wicked Witch.....melting :k


ETA: Welcome Back Wood!

Ylla said: Honey, in Boston on Saturday...Oh I wish I had known that earlier...unfortunately I have to work this weekend! Why is it everytime Honey is near me I'm working?...chalk it up to bad luck****sigh*****
Bummer! *pout* I only knew about this trip as of late Tuesday. Hubby just sprung it on me.

Yes! I forgot to say welcome back, Wood!

honey!

ETA: Oh! Undone has great pics in her LJ from US Premier magazine! Here's my favorite: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/lijliev.jpg
And this quote:

SCHRIEBER: I think that, because of The Ice Storm, people are used to seeing Elijah as this kid, and not many people realize that he's gotten older since then. And he's a very strange guy, you know. I mean, he's a very strange cat.

WOOD (laughing): I can't believe he just called me a strange guy.

SCHREIBER: I mean that in the best possible way.

WOOD: I know, that's what's beautiful.

SCHRIEBER: Well, there's this assumption about him that he is this sort of ingenue-ish sweet young... and he's really very weird.


wibble

IIIIIIIIIIIHH! Oops. sorry 'bout the squeal, my bad. :rolleyes: Just have to say that I love the quote from Liev!!!

Good to see you back Wood! :k

So is anyone else going to Edinburgh then?
I'm happy I'm going because I just read this:

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news_id=17004

Let's hope I get to see him then :z: because it would be f.a.b.u.l.o.u.s.

Oh Honey!! :lol: This photo! Geeks square 10. :D Priceless - note Elijah's nuanced jaw-setting!
And Schreiber's comment on Elijah is simply gorgeous.

Honeyelf, :lol: !!

Note to self: Never drink lemonade while reading an interview of Liev Schreiber and EW. Need paper towel to clean computer screen.

C4

I bought Premiere on the way home today. I'm suprised I didn't get arrested for D.U.I.E., Driving Under then Influence of Elijah! I just couldn't wait, and read half the article at stop-lights! :o

Whiteling said: And Schreiber's comment on Elijah is simply gorgeous.

If you liked that you'll LOVE this! Here's the rest of Schrieber's quote:
SCHRIEBER: Well, there's this assumption about him that he is this sort of ingenue-ish sweet young... and he's really very weird. And I think that people are going to see it in the next couple years, with the kind of choices that this guy makes. They're going to see a really interesting actor emerge.

squeeeeeeeeeeeeeYES! :o

Found this too, in my Yahoo! alerts:

Elijah Wood is taking a break from acting to launch his own record label. "I want to have the chance to release things that might not get released otherwise," explains the Lord of the Rings star. "My taste is pretty eclectic, so my label won't have a specific sound. Though if Radiohead are ever looking for a deal I'd sign them anytime."

Not really news, except for that "Wood is taking a break from acting" part. :eek: :( Well, I hope he's been a busy boy lately, and he's half launched, 'cause I want to see more movies, Mr. Wood! I'll be happy for ya if you get this record thing off the ground, but what I really want is more movies!

honey!

I bought Premiere on the way home today. I'm suprised I didn't get arrested for D.U.I.E., Driving Under then Influence of Elijah! I just couldn't wait, and read half the article at stop-lights! :o I got mine too, on the way home from work tonight. What I'd like to know is why Liev thinks Elijah is weird/strange -- not that it bothers me -- I consider that a compliment like Lij does -- but I'm just wondering what it is exactly that he's referring to.
Not really news, except for that "Wood is taking a break from acting" part. :eek: :( Well, I hope he's been a busy boy lately, and he's half launched, 'cause I want to see more movies, Mr. Wood! I'll be happy for ya if you get this record thing off the ground, but what I really want is more movies! Frankly, I think they're several months late with this story, particularly if he auditioned for a film recently!

Overloaded!!! *fans self!* :k

I can't keep up. I want to thank everyone for all the articles that are just so cool!!!! Bunnie, and Honey, and Whiteling and Achila--and welcome back Wood, and thank you Honey for starting the new thread. The news is all absolutely stunning!! I'm sorry I haven't been able to contribute lately, I really can't keep up. But I'm so happy you ladies are on the ball. Now I wonder how come we haven't received that Premiere issue in the mail as of yet :confused:
Alyon needs to interview her neighbors to see which one of them has the Elijah issue hidden in the cookie jar. Alyon gets a little crazy sometimes...

It's not Fair
I subscribe to Premiere magazine and everyone's getting their copies before me :mad: ****Stomps little foot****
Left my info on that youthaids site for the dogtags and I'm getting a GS Hooligans wristband...gonna wear my TORN tee-shirt...grab my Elijah keychain that Honey, so kindly made for me :) and patiently wait for 2 movies to make an appearance and just so I can show true allegiance, I'm gonna wear These items when I see These movies(okay, I know... I can't wear the keychain ) :rolleyes:

Hope I don't embarrass my friends(who am I kidding?) Are you listening to this Achila and Pelagia?
and Ceefour? Are you sure you still want to meet this madwoman I've become? ;)

It's only gonna get worse if Mr. Wood takes a break from acting! Wonder if I can learn to play an instrument..take singing lessons and look for a record label to sign with? :eek:

Does anyone remember that dreadful old song...They're Coming To Take Me Away?
Well I may have to remake that one because If the shoe fits.....or is it..if the song fits...sing it?
:k

there's an Aldo store in Boston. Anybody want some of those nice shiny dog tags? :) Seriously, I can see if they've got 'em! You need only "Speak" and I shall obey.

Like you, Achila, I'm dying to know what makes Lij "one weird cat." There's weird as in "neverland" and there's weird as in "doesn't go in for the usual 'star' life-style." What's weird from someone like Schreiber, who was raised by theater folk (rather like being raised by wolves to 'normals' like us ;) ) might not really be all that weird. OTOH, it'd be kinda fun if Lij had some really weird hobby. Maybe it's something like Crispin Glover's; he makes those truly weird cigar box sculptures. Maybe Elijah's is "weird" as in he takes self-portraits in any reflective surface? ...Yeah, I'm curious as all get-out.

Flying out in the AM. Will sneak in an e-mail check periodically. So if you want Aldo dog-tags, "Speak" up in a PM!

hugs,
honey!

Honey, I recommend you call that shoe store before you traipse all the way over there; a friend of mine went to two different Aldo shops today (mind you, this was in Canada, but...), only to be told that they were "only stocking the popular stars", which meant Christina Aguilera, LL Cool J and Cindy Crawford ( :confused: ). Neither store had or expected to ever have Elijah Wood ("Who?" asked the salesgirl in the first store. :rolleyes: ).

Anyway. Word to the wise, I guess.

"only stocking the popular stars"
:eek:
Yer kidding?! What narrow definition of popular are they employing?

Alyon, Ylla, I think this delay in delivery of your magazines might fall under the "dark of night" clause. Tell your mailperson you need to be Illuminated!

Mech, what do you make of the symbolism here? ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/meetforcoffee.jpg


naughty honey!

Honey wrote:
Mech, what do you make of the symbolism here? ;)

Honey, with no trees or elephants or bananas in the shot, my mind's a blank.

Seriously, though, that is one cool ad. I meant it.

~ Mechtild :)

Does anyone remember that dreadful old song...They're Coming To Take Me Away?
Well I may have to remake that one because If the shoe fits.....or is it..if the song fits...sing it?
:k
You could probably get the "recording executive's" attention if you remade the flip side ;) where it's played backwards. (Uh, yeah, I remember it--how about "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor on the Bedpost Overnight"? Hey, he wants eclectic, we can give him eclectic! :haha: )

A big part of me wonders if "taking a break from acting" to start his record label isn't more "making good use of time until he finds a movie he really wants to do." IIRC, he was planning to "take a break from acting" to go to college when Frodo came calling. Methinks he has his priorities straight in that regard -- at least as far as we're concerned. ;) That statement about a "really interesting actor" emerging over the next few years has me drooling! :z: :cool:

Random thoughts on what's been posted from Premiere:

--Interesting that the guys can look like the Blues Brothers at the same time they're dressed like Jonathan (except for both of them having their pants legs too long, which Jonathan would never do).

--At least the second pic posted shows where the "too much caffeine" came from in the first one. I like consistent story development. ;)

--Relieved to see the two can be happily goofy together (both in pictures and interview) after hearing what a taskmaster Liev was as a director. They evidently appreciated each other's efforts.

--Very much wondering what weirdnesses will come up in EII. We know they're there, but haven't gotten too many clues from the stills so far. Except that IMVHO movie-Jonathan's character extremes are not in the book, so those could get pretty strange (and I mean that in the best possible way ;) ). I expect to see some creative use of BaggiesTM.

--The tone of the article raises my hopes for this being a great movie. And the fact that the article is appearing at all raises my hopes that EII will get some good attention and a wide release (just checked, and this weekend, at least, Broken Flowers is not showing anywhere in Omaha :rolleyes: ).

--I'm sure there was something else I was going to say, but I'm only on my second cup of coffee and can't remember. :confused:

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ETA: Regarding the stores "only stocking the popular stars": Recalls the store that wasn't stocking "Frodo Lives" bumper stickers because Tolkien wasn't "in" anymore.

That statement about a "really interesting actor" emerging over the next few years has me drooling! :z: :cool:

That's heavenly music to our ears, isn't it? Hallelujah! :)


--At least the second pic posted shows where the "too much caffeine" came from in the first one. I like consistent story development. ;)



:lol: Love that photo! And it proves the gossip I've read just the other day is *true* - at the web site of a German tv channel they had those "Trend: Coffee to go" pictures (vip.rtl.de/style_5620.php?media=galerie1) which show that it is trendy for US celebrities to be seen with at least one take-away coffee. :p [/completely pointless info]

And it proves the gossip I've read just the other day is *true* - at the web site of a German tv channel they had those "Trend: Coffee to go" pictures (vip.rtl.de/style_5620.php?media=galerie1) which show that it is trendy for US celebrities to be seen with at least one take-away coffee. :p [/completely pointless info]Trendy?!? Addicted to the stuff, more like. :D I'm a huge fan of mochas (nonfat, decaf, please, with whipped cream), myself.

I guess Elijah is One with the Trend, though, as this shot was captured last year:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/Wood_Elijah_040904_04.jpg

Trendy?!? Addicted to the stuff, more like. :D I'm a huge fan of mochas (nonfat, decaf, please, with whipped cream), myself.


Me too. But your decaf version wouldn't help against aliens! ;)

Me too. But your decaf version wouldn't help against aliens! ;)BWAH! :lol: You're so right. But the caffeine would probably put me in an early grave, anyway, so I figure it's a wash. Heh.

I guess Elijah is One with the Trend, though, as this shot was captured last year:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah/Wood_Elijah_040904_04.jpg

:confused: TRendy ? He's about as trendy as a wet fart in a full lift (elevators in American land)

:confused: TRendy ? He's about as trendy as a wet fart in a full lift (elevators in American land)You'll note that I didn't say he was "trendy", I said he was "one with the trend", meaning the coffee. :haha: Other than that, he pretty much marches to his own drummer.

EDITED TO ADD: Very cool article about Green Street and Lexi Alexander here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2005/08/06/bflexi06.xml&menuId=564&sSheet=/arts/2005/08/06/ixfilmmain.html). And, yes, Elijah is briefly mentioned. :)

Thanks for the link, Bunnie--I liked this bit :cool: :
"I've followed Elijah's work since he was eight years old," says Alexander, "since his first movies. I always knew that he was so talented, there's so much more to him than what we've seen so far."

OTOH, the reporter sounds like one of the people who thought FotR was Elijah's first movie:
...one of the most violently against-type casting decisions of recent years.
:confused:


And I totally agree that Elijah's anything but "trendy" -- Thank God!

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ETA: Okay, this is getting almost scary! Do you realize it took us less than a week to get to 100 posts in the new thread?! :eek: :cool:

Bunnie, that was a great interview. Thank you :).

from the Telegraph article: There are as many hooligans in Germany as there are in Britain, and the only reason she didn't shoot the film in Germany is because she hates the German language and she didn't want the subject-matter to be mixed up with neo-Nazism.

Although I'm sorry to learn that Lexi has no love for the German language :eek:, I think her second reason for not shooting this movie here is well-considered - it could have been much more difficult (than in an English speaking country) to clarify that Hooligans are not to be put on a level with neo-Nazis, automatically. (I have the feeling that both phenomenons have at least one core in common - both the firms and the Nazi groups provide sort of a "family" and a "home". Juging these books by their covers, they may look rather similar.)
Anyway, a German production of GSH wouldn't have had Elijah in it. :eek: Waah! I admit this is my main reason to be glad Lexi went abroad with her script. ;)

Just popping in to tell you that I asked at Oscarwatch if anyone who saw Broken Flowers yesterday saw the EiI trailer. The first person who answered said "no", and that he/she was very disappointed as well. :confused: Not sure what's going on with this.

http://latinoreview.com/films_2005/wip/illuminated/illuminated.html

Thank you SOOO much -- I searched all over for that this morning with no luck. :k

OH, THANK YOU THANK YOU BLESS YOU. *runs around in circles* How fantastic does that look? I'M SO EXCITED. There is no emoticon for how I'm feelling at this particular moment. I'm a bit overcome. *sniffle*

Oh, and welcome to the boards. What an entrance you've made! :D

Oh GAWD I LOVED IT I LOVED IT I LOVED IT I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, I could download the trailer this time. ;)

Thanks so so so much, cw0819.

Woo hoo!!!

~ Mechtild (just having been made insane with happy anticipation)

*Faints* That was..great..A LOT better than I ever expected it to be. I can't wait for this movie now. If only I knew when it comes out around here....

cw0819 Firstly - WELCOME!

You've made a lot of people very happy today! THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE LINK TO THE WONDERFUL EII TRAILER! :k Blossom joins Bunnie running around in circles!

Ladies, do you think this is Elijah as Safran?
http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Safran-Augustine.jpg
Does anyone else think that Augustine looks pregnant?
Love the music.

If anyone would like to see some stills from the trailer - which I've just hurriedly capped - I've put a folder up at photobucket. It's HERE (http://photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/) - just click on 'EII Trailer Caps.'

Mech - I'm so pleased this one worked for you. :)

You're right, Blossom -- I didn't notice it before. That absolutely is Elijah. And btw, thanks to a nice poster at Bunnie's LJ, the song is How It Ends, by DeVotchKa.

Thank you so much CW - that was ... beautiful :) I think this film is going to be wonderful - and a real tear-jerker :)

ETA: Blossom - in my excitement I had missed your post - I'm 99% sure you're right - thats either Elijah or the identical twin he's never told us about :D

You're welcome. Someone has already posted the link in IMDB, I do copy & paste only.

Blossom, thanks so much for the link to your brand-new caps. :k

Loooove the "seeing eye bitch." Nice teeth.

It's funny, though, looking at those caps. Even though each still is really nice, I would never get the idea from them -- seeing them as a group of stills -- just how great that trailer makes the film look (or EW in it).

I guess films really are "moving pictures" . D'oh. :rolleyes:

P.S. Yes, the music was great. And, yes, I got all teary. A couple of times. Oh, I just can't WAIT!

~ Mechtild :D

A big welcome and thank-you to CW :) :k! Yes, you made definitely many people happy (including me) joins Bunnie's and Blossom's circle dance - the trailer is AWESOME. And awesome are your caps as well, Blossom - thanks for those! :k
I was ROTFLMAO over the "I'm a vegetarian" dialog :D. Being a veggie myself, this communication course rang only too true!

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

I love it, I love it, I love it!

Finally, my kind of movie! History, drama, humor-- *melts into a puddle of love*

And may I say that as a Jewish woman (atlhough non practicing), the shot of him in the yarmulke at the funeral just about sent me into orbit. Hmmm...maybe I should rethink the way I feel about Jewish guys... ;)

This trailer has me absolutely hyperventilating!
OMG...how beautifully photographed is this film?
I must see this movie! I've got goosebumps from this little trailer...and my initial reaction is that people are gonna be talking about this film(and I mean this in a good way!) :D

Bring it ON....can't wait for September!!!!!!


:) Ylla=Very Happy Camper :)

Thank you so much cw for the link to the trailer which made the soles of my feet tingle with excitement.

Having watched the trailer, I had a thought about the symbolism of Jonathan's thick glasses. He's short-sighted, can't see the big picture. We see Augustine remove his glasses at the end, when everything is illuminated and he can see the full picture.

Cool thought, Brummie!

Hullo from Boston! Just checking in with you all.

CW A HUGE welcome! Thank you for bringing the EiI trailer with you! I saw Broken Flowers last night, but no trailer :eek: , so I'm thrilled! It looks even better than I imagined, and i'm sitting here sniffling.

In my solo wanderings about BeanTown today, I encountered two Aldo stores. Went in both and asked after the dog tags. No Lij ones. Called a third store, and got somkeone who knew what they were talking about; this is what I was told. There are only three tags, "speak" being one, and there are only three cards featuring Cindy Crawford, LLCoolJ, and Christina Aguillera. There is no card featuring Elijah. But there are plenty of the "speak" ones in stock in stores. I'll be here two more days, so if you want one sooner than you can get it from the website, then you know the drill.

Gotta run -laptop battery low.

honey!

ETA: My darling husband just got back from his meeting, and I showed him the trailer. He laughed and cried, and said "Well, the trailer's intense!" He recently attended a lecture by Jonathan Safran Foer with me. We talked to JSF for a few minutes while he signed books for me. My husband says that he could see that EW had picked up and used some of JSF's mannerisms! I asked him which ones, but he couldn't be specific without watching the trailer again, and neither of us were quite ready to do that!

cw0819, you sure know how to make an entrance! Thank you for the trailer.

WOW!

C4

cw0819:

Thanks again for the link to the fantastically welcome trailer.

P.S. Your birthday isn't August the 19th, is it?

Just curious,

~ Mechtild

mechtild, yes, aug 19 is my birthday... ;)

found this on internet but i can't sure it is 100% real -
"elwood's company : Simian Records (www.simianrecords.com) temp"

Carrie

That is one good trailer. Even without my interest in Elijah, it would leave me intrigued and wanting to see more.

It is a shame the Green Street trailers haven't been more like that. We know how good the film is from reviews, but the trailers just don't seem to give the right impression.

It is just typical that there is so much going off in Elijahland right now when I really haven't time to keep up.

Good morning, all. After just about dying with pride over the trailer yesterday, I woke up to find all sorts of chatter at AICN about our boy and Hooligans and EII. According to Quint at Aint It Cool, Jon Favreau (remember us mentioning that he had traveled from LA to the Tribeca Film Festival with the film, because he loved it so much?) has signed on to Hooligans as Executive Producer. Very interesting.

Hello Faculty :)

I'm not sure I understand the dog tag thing!
When you order them do you order by celebrity or do you order by hear,speak,see?
If it's the latter...wouldn't I want the speak tag since Lij is one of the celebs with the tape over the mouth? :confused: Still waiting from the aldo site for the tags to be available to order and I want to make sure I get the right ones!
BTW...I'm annoyed :mad:
People magazine had a blip re the aldo campaign and mentioned some of the celebrities involved....guess who they didn't mention?

People magazine does not like to emphasize Lij. He is far too nerdy for them. If he were more Hollywood, he'd get a lot more space. I think we can use People as a barometer as to whether or not he's sold out! :D

Ylla, sorry if I confused you regarding the Aldo dogtag thing. If you want the one like Lij wore in the PSA you'll order "speak." But the card in the package, which comes with the dogtag, will have Christina Aguellera on it, 'cause there is no card with Lij on it.

We did most of the Freedom Trail today, and we're whipped puppies. Turning in!

honey!

ETA: Oops! Meant to say that I looked around in AICN this afternoon while hubby took a nap. It seems the brits are none too fond of the idea of footie Hooligans being "glorified" on film. (Though they are not, by my reckoning, glorified in GSH.) Alot of 'em seemed to be of the impression that Lexi is a poser, and that she is drawing attention to a phenomenon that is largely over and done in the UK. If the movie does poorly there will that hurt its chances and reception here? I mean, amongst those of us who've been keepin' track of it's progress through various film fests, there is excitement. But the general (slightly less fanatical;)) movie goers might hear bad press on it, and "stay home in droves." Whaddya think?

ETA: Oops! Meant to say that I looked around in AICN this afternoon while hubby took a nap. It seems the brits are none too fond of the idea of footie Hooligans being "glorified" on film. (Though they are not, by my reckoning, glorified in GSH.) Alot of 'em seemed to be of the impression that Lexi is a poser, and that she is drawing attention to a phenomenon that is largely over and done in the UK. If the movie does poorly there will that hurt its chances and reception here? I mean, amongst those of us who've been keepin' track of it's progress through various film fests, there is excitement. But the general (slightly less fanatical;)) movie goers might hear bad press on it, and "stay home in droves." Whaddya think?There's always that danger, honey, that a film with a controversial subject will a) hit too close to home and bomb accordingly; b) be played out before it even hits the screens because the audience is bored of hearing about the topic (imagine a movie about the OJ Simpson trial being released right after the verdict came down); c) be embraced elsewhere, because it's exotic or unusual and then be sneered at in the "home" country -- i.e., "oh, you foreigners don't really know anything about this, even if you think you do from seeing the film"; and/or d) be done too apologetically, in an attempt to garner sympathy, infuriating the people it's about. Frankly, Hooligans could suffer any one (or more) of those fates.

I've seen those comments on the AICN board since the film opened at SXSW. I think it will be very interesting to see what happens when it actually premiers in the UK. If the Empire article is any indication, some of them may just think "ho, hum, been there, done that" and not get too much more emotionally invested in it.

Oh! oh oh oh oh oh oh! !!!

The EII trailer!

Suddenly, I am very very excited about this movie. Can we just skip forward a month? :z: :) :) :)

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08 August 2005

With three weeks to go until Green Street receives it's UK premiere at the forthcoming Edinburgh Film Festival I have been receiving a steady stream of mails asking me for tickets, information and even introductions to Elijah Wood and/or Charlie Hunnam!

Sadly, I can provide none of these. In fact due to family commitments I will not even be going to Edinburgh and whilst that might come as a surprise to some people, I am actually quite relieved. I'm not good with nerves!

On the subject of e-mails concerning Green Street, I would like to thank everyone who has mailed me about the film and in particular, those who have taken the trouble to voice their opinions about the distribution and PR situation in the US.

I will not go into too much detail for obvious reasons and since I'm neither American nor versed in the art of PR, I am reluctant to comment on what is going on there other than to say that I do have a great deal of sympathy with many of the points raised.

As for this side of the Atlantic, well things have been very different. For whilst the movie has done amazingly well on the festival circuit in the US, the response here has not been so positive with reviews ranging from good to scathing. Sadly, the fact that hooliganism and the lads involved in it are so widely despised has meant that certain reviewers undoubtedly went to see the movie with very negative preconceptions be they about the subject matter, the fact that it is an American made film, the casting of Elijah Wood or even all three. Unfortunately, some of them have been happy to cement those in print which is a shame for sure, but what can you do?

Of more concern to me is that the feedback I have seen from some of the screenings has not been good. The fact that much of this comes from 'ITK lads' -who were always going to provide the true test for this film- saddens me greatly but I have to say that I am not that surprised. For whilst it is a good movie, as an authentic study of English hooliganism Green Street actually falls short by some margin.

To be fair, given the fact that it was developed primarily for an American audience that is perfectly understandable. After all, when you have to include some form of explanation for just about every single aspect of the culture, you not only face an uphill battle keeping those who live and breathe that same culture entertained, but you risk incurring their wrath if you get anything wrong. That had been a concern to me from day one and sadly, largely as a result of errors that really should have been picked up during filming, it has proven to be well founded.

That is not a criticism of the film by any means and nor should it be taken as such. Indeed I must stress that in my opinion no movie has ever really captured the realities of a Saturday afternoon with a group of lads and in many respects, Green Street actually comes closer than most. The fight scenes are brilliantly put together, the majority of the performances are spot on, it looks fantastic and the soundtrack is cracking.

For most places and most people, that will be enough. More than enough in fact. But for British audiences things are slightly different because most people here already know about football violence and so watching someone become a part of it has less of a shock value. And this is where Green Street really suffers because without that shock value you need something else and sadly, in large sections of the film it isn't there. Largely, it must be said, because much of the humour and irony of the original script has been lost.

Don't get me wrong, I am extremely proud to have my name attached to Green Street and it is most definitely worth seeing. But only once someone realises that the best use of hooliganism in a film is as a sub-plot rather than a central theme will we get to see a definitive movie about the Saturday Scene and hopefully we won't have to wait for that to happen.

Well, I know we won't. :-)


Onwards and upwards!

Dougie

Very thought-provoking article, Achila. It's too bad that Elijah is listed as one of the three liabilities, but I think Dougie's comments are very thoughtful. He acknowledges "errors that really should have been picked up during filming," and this is an important point. Twyla Tharp has a book out about the creative process that I really want to read (I've only read bits). She says that it's easy to ignore a root problem in a production, because you have such time pressures and you're dealing with real people who can get their feelings hurt. But you have to acknowledge the problem and fix it, or you'll run into what Dougie has--scathing or lukewarm reviews set in print, which will forever prejudice the audience against your creative effort.

I wish the best for GSH, and hope it does find a receptive audience when it plays.

That's too bad that Green Street is already being chewed up and spat out by the critics (and our boy along with it, apparently, in some cases), but I can't say that I'm terribly surprised. Really, the film was intended more for American audiences, and we're stuck with the irony of how difficult it was/is to get it into theatres here in the States.:mad: Phooey.

Along those lines, the Green Street Hooligans (http://www.greenstreethooligans.com/) website has received some updates, which include news from Lexi, and also listings for many more theatres for the first three weekends of release. I don't think these are guaranteed openings, though, because they've mentioned a couple of times how important it is for the film to do well its first weekend in order for it to expand to markets outside of NYC, LA and Chicago. I'm just crazy enough that I'm going to buy tickets for showings that I will never see, just to ensure the film's success! :eek: :D

Largely, it must be said, because much of the humour and irony of the original script has been lost.

In retrospect, perhaps it was not the best combination; British scriptwriter, German director and American producers. In the world of stereotypes, the Germans have no sense of humour and the Americans do not understand irony. ;)

On a more serious note, a film about football hooliganism called The Football Factory was released in the UK about 15 months ago. My husband and watched it on DVD recently. I felt that the story was weak and the stance taken by the director amoral (non-judgemental, if you prefer). The main character has learned nothing by the end despite being nearly killed. The film left us feeling "well, if they want to beat each other up well away from everybody else, let them get on with it". Although the film depicted the sense of belonging to a group, it did not show the "high" that the participants must get from a fight. If it had done so, it would have explained the decision of the main protagonist to return to the firm, a decision which, in the context of the film, seems incomprehensible.

From a University of Leicester study:

Fights can be anticipated and enjoyed, not just because of the challenges they offer, but also because of how they make the protagonists feel. (Some fighters describe the football action as being 'better than sex').

http://www.le.ac.uk/footballresearch/resources/factsheets/fs1.html

THe film received lukewarm press reviews on the whole, partly on account of the subject matter but mainly on account of the lack of character development and poor story. It was not on long in the cinemas but apparently has been extremely successful on DVD

From what I understand of Green Street/ Hooligans, Ms Alexander does show the elation and enjoyment and some (many?) people are going to object to this, even if, by the end, she shows the high price to be paid. But it also sounds as if the narrative and chahrcter development are much better.

As for the semi-literates on aicn who are slating the film before seeing it, they are hardly representative of the British film-going public and I think this is a case of "Get off our patch." How dare a German director and American actor come and make a film about our hooliganism. Most of us have no first hand experience of hooliganism and will not notice the factual errors that Dougie Brimson mentions. The average filmgoer will rely on the review in the daily press and the opinions of friends and colleagues. Let us hope the reviewers go to see it with an open mind.

Just dropping in to say, Brummie, that was a thoughtful, well-presented post. It has stirred my own thinking, in turn, which is always a welcome thing. Thank you! :)

~ Mechtild

In retrospect, perhaps it was not the best combination; British scriptwriter, German director and American producers. In the world of stereotypes, the Germans have no sense of humour and the Americans do not understand irony. ;)
Humour? :confused: :confused: :confused: What's humour? :rolleyes: :haha:


Apropos Humour - how about some British Hooligans humour (yes, there actually is such a thing!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Football_party.jpg

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Most of us have no first hand experience of hooliganism and will not notice the factual errors that Dougie Brimson mentions. The average filmgoer will rely on the review in the daily press and the opinions of friends and colleagues. Let us hope the reviewers go to see it with an open mind.
I really hope for word-of-mouth advertising from the average filmgoers - and it's a moot question whether other insiders will mind the factual errors that much?

brummie wrote:
As for the semi-literates on aicn who are slating the film before seeing it, they are hardly representative of the British film-going public
The gang at AICN DID see the movie at the SXSW Film Festival. I know. I was there. Remember that they are writing for a younger American audience. They are not writing for a British audience.

TxTac, I don't think Brummie meant Harry, Quint et al. She meant the brits on the board who are raising a hew and cry at the notion of making a film "about" footie hooliganism. 'Course you and I and everyone else here who's seen it know it's not really about that at all, just like we know that Elijah is not miss-cast, becuase Matt Bruckner was meant from the beginning to be the opposite of the stereotypical thick-necked thick-skulled skin-headed hooligan. I'd just like all these know-it-alls to give the film a chance. :rolleyes:

honey!

Perhaps we need to forward to the Sun the interview that Lexi did last month where she explained why she spicifically chose Elijah and the in's and outs of the movie. ???

TxTac, I don't think Brummie meant Harry, Quint et al. She meant the brits on the board who are raising a hew and cry at the notion of making a film "about" footie hooliganism. !

Quite right, thank you, honey :k

Perhaps we need to forward to the Sun the interview that Lexi did last month where she explained why she spicifically chose Elijah and the in's and outs of the movie. ???

Not a bad idea. It can't do any harm. But why specifically the Sun, which is pretty much at the bottom of the tabloid pile? Why not all UK newspapers?

Undone27 has transcribed the Flaunt interview in her LJ. If you don't know the way PM me and I'll point you there. It is the most gorgeous interview I've ever read with Elijah. He will quite simply break your heart all over again.

honey!

HOneyElf just sent me an email to say that GSH is playing in Seattle!! Opening the same day as EiL!!? My computer connection has been horrible and I have been bumped and stabbed and knocked down by it all week. Which means to say that she told me and I haven't been able to get on the site to confirm. And it's likely you already covered this here?????? Did you???? I have been lucky to pop on and read one post and then get bumped. Seems better today but I'm writing before I get pushed out again.
If the above news is correct, then how did I get so lucky??? :cool:

http://latinoreview.com/films_2005/wip/illuminated/illuminated.html
Yeeeeeee-HAH! I think The One Lad has a winner! Of course, the computer that I'm using at the moment doesn't have sound but since when did Elijah need *sound*?!?

Many important things happening tommorrow; good thoughts requested.

~grumpy

Grumpy :k :k :D ! EiI looks really really good, doesn't it?

Well, I've stopped swooning and collected myself sufficiently to say that EW says some really intersting things about acting in the FLAUNT interview. Such as:

“If I were to analyze my approach,” says Wood, running a hand through his newly, closely cropped hair, “I would have to say I use more of my experience in life to inform the character, rather than the other way around. And within that, I do keep a clear separation between who I am and what the role demands,” He lights a clove cigarette (a habit picked up from Faculty classmate Josh Hartnett) and adds, “I have been very lucky to be where I am. Even so, as an actor, I have a great sense of not being utterly satisfied by acting alone. Life is a multifaceted experience. I ask myself, ‘Why should I settle for one thing in my life?’ Often I look at a scene, a moment, and think, ‘Oh no! I’m terrible!’ I think of all the things I would’ve or could’ve done but I don’t think anything can ever be perfect. It is so important to remember that what you create is a reflection of your attempt to be the best you can in that moment.”

And Liev says really wonderful things about Elijah:

“After Lord of the Rings, he could’ve been in anything he wanted,” says Schreiber, who, after years of acting successes of his own (The Manchurian Candidate, a Tony award for Glengarry Glen Ross), is making his feature directing debut with Illuminated. “As most of the film is seen through his eyes, I needed an actor who had openness, a soulfulness to him. It had to be someone whose gaze matters. And those eyes of his! The more I thought about it, I realized there was no one better for this role than Elijah. He is an insanely generous person. Emotional, kind, gentle…and those were all the qualities that I love about him, which I wanted in this character. I also think, much like Elijah, that the character of Jonathan is on the verge of an ‘illumination,’ making that allegorical transformation from boy to man.”

OK, maybe I wasn't really done swooning after all. *wooh*

honey!

Hooligans will be opening in New Jersey the weekend ylla travels to visit achila, pelegia, and myself. That's just over the river and through the wood! How did we get so lucky?

tg has some new additions to her site.

:z: and :k to grumpy

C4

:( I'm jealous. The closet city to me is Detroit. I'm afraid I may have to wait and live vicariously through The Faculty. It would be awesome if it came to Indianapolis at the time of the LOTR exhibit, wouldn't it?

Multiply this... :z: ...many times for those who will be in Indy, please.

I want to throw in my hanky and sob with Shelbyshire. Thanks so much for the link on the previous page, Bunnie, but it looks like GSH is not playing Minneapolis/St. Paul. I reeeeaaaally hoped it might get a screening there. Hey! Prince is from the Cities! ("Yeah? So?") Ylla, ceefour, Pelagian, Achila, Alyon, I am jealous. Yet I am happy for you, too. Woo hoo! But that's what we get for living in this far-from-everwhere ICE BOX. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! ;)

Now, Honey, since you have gushed so effusively over that there interview, I will have to take your directions and find that there interview. :p

ETA: Great interview, Honey. Here is a passage I loved:

Left to his own devices, Wood admits, he is a very cerebral person. “But I want to have more unplanned adventures, which is why I am trying to be more impulsive. There is something really great about making a decision based on an emotion, out of the blue. I have great admiration for those who can do that.” If Wood should possess any flaw, agrees Schreiber, it is that the young actor is possibly the most composed, most polite, most professional person he has ever met in his entire life. He sighs, “As he gets older, that is the one element within Elijah that I look forward to going away. Just a little bit.”
Beat me silly, but that sounds very Frodo-ish to me. *swoooon*

This also made my heart warm:

“Perhaps it doesn’t seem like much…but it was when I was in New York two winters ago. I was at a friend’s house, at 105th Street and West End Avenue. There was an amazing blizzard. It was late and I couldn’t get a cab to where I was staying, which was nearly two miles away, on 66th and Broadway. (...) Wood began trekking homeward on foot.
He walked through my old neighborhood! Awwwww....!

Of, course, I still lived there when EW was breast-feeding in Cedar Rapids, IA. (If he breast-fed, that is.)

~ Mechtild

If Wood should possess any flaw, agrees Schreiber, it is that the young actor is possibly the most composed, most polite, most professional person he has ever met in his entire life. He sighs, “As he gets older, that is the one element within Elijah that I look forward to going away. Just a little bit.”

Why d'you suppose Liev said that? Is he wishing that Elijah be a bit more cushioned from this?:
Wood admits that the fear is mostly of his own devising. But there it is, ever beside him. He smiles and holds his hands, the only sign of deviation from his perennial good-guy reputation, out for inspection. “See, there it is. My dark side.” His nails are bitten down to the quick. “Perhaps it all comes from having to grow up so fast. Early on, I felt a great responsibility to other people’s emotions. I still tend to overthink what I say or do because I always want to try and do the right thing, often to my own detriment. It can be kind of overwhelming.”


One of my very favorite visuals was this one:
his favorite thing these days, is to listen to old CDs while sitting outdoors on the stoop which is overhung by a beautiful old tree, laced with glowing Chinese lanterns. It is here he dreams of future odysseys. One of them would be in the universe of music.
He's such a romatic soul, don't you think?

TG, where are you? You'll hurt yourself playing with photoshop so much! Come back and play with us! ;) I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed Part of the Solution? (http://www.frodolivesin.us/id295.htm) It was a lovely bit of writing, articulating alot of things I've felt but never put to words.

Part of what makes Elijah so special as an actor is that "insane generosity" that Liev remarks on. Elijah just gives himself completely over to the character, without self-conciousness. He takes his time to develop a moment, and he does what he does with his whole body. Other lesser actors can seem to be doing pantomime by contrast. I remember a grade school teacher of mine telling us that we had to really look at a tree to draw it, not just draw a green lollipop with a fat brown stick. Elijah's acting is like he's taken the time to draw all those little crevices and shades in his characters. At its most sublime his acting can make me actually experience the emotions that his character is feeling.

honey!

Indeed CeeFour!!!! :D

I just returned home from a few wonderfully relaxing days at a beachouse in Maine, only to be notified by Achila ,that we are going on our own little roadtrip. Two movies :cool: How lucky can one girl get...and I'll finally get to meet you and share some wonderful Lij goodness to boot.
I am one happy lady right now...what a wonderful way to return from a 3 day mini vaca. I can return to work, later tonight, a very contended lady.

The countdown begins right NOW:

45 days till Lij-fest (it's kinda like Oz-fest without all the drugs)

Mech....check airfares now...we'd love to moot with you :k

As most of the film is seen through his eyes, I needed an actor who had openness, a soulfulness to him. It had to be someone whose gaze matters. And those eyes of his! The more I thought about it, I realized there was no one better for this role than Elijah. He is an insanely generous person. Emotional, kind, gentle…and those were all the qualities that I love about him

I love this because it isn't coming from a fan or someone who has only met him briefly - its from someone who has worked closely with him through several long, arduous months of filming. Its what we already knew in our hearts of course, but its nice to see it underlined in this way. And I can't imagine that Liev is the sort of person who would dish out praise very easily, which makes it even more meaningful. :)

:One of my very favorite visuals was this one:
his favorite thing these days, is to listen to old CDs while sitting outdoors on the stoop which is overhung by a beautiful old tree, laced with glowing Chinese lanterns. It is here he dreams of future odysseys. One of them would be in the universe of music.
He's such a romatic soul, don't you think?

He certainly is Honey - and what a beautiful picture that evokes :)

And I join you in your praise of TG :)

Hi my dear friends!!!!

I have finally seen the trailer!!!!!!

AND WOW-WOW-WOW!!!!!!!!

Im so going to love this movie!!!!!!!

and as someone sade,, elijah got a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you all so much!!! for sharing that link!!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

As most of the film is seen through his eyes, I needed an actor who had openness, a soulfulness to him. It had to be someone whose gaze matters. And those eyes of his! The more I thought about it, I realized there was no one better for this role than Elijah. He is an insanely generous person. Emotional, kind, gentle…and those were all the qualities that I love about him
Shireling said: I love this because it isn't coming from a fan or someone who has only met him briefly - its from someone who has worked closely with him through several long, arduous months of filming.

Me too, Shireling! I am particularly enthused about this quote because it has nothing to do with the role of Jonathan. Mr. Schreiber doesn't say this as the spoonful of sugar to help Jonathan go down. He really means it, and Elijah really is those things.

I only say this because sometimes I wonder how much of what a director says about his star is meant to "package" him or her in a way that will make us see that person as a particular character. Jonathan isn't particularly any of those things, and it's only because Elijah is that we will be able to see the journey through JSF's eyes.

Saile, where are you? I think this is missing from your sig line don't you? :) :
insanely generous ...Emotional, kind, gentle

I love that FLAUNT interview. They could have given it to us without the pictures at all, and I'd have been perfectly happy!

Where is everybody? It's so quiet around here! :(

honey!

Hi honeyelf! Is everybody on holiday? :)

I’ve been thinking about the British reaction to GSH. Personally, I don’t think we should be too pessimistic… yet. Apart from the Empire review, the only other British take on it (I think) is one on IMDB which is fairly enthusiastic:

First of all there hasn't been a good film about English Football Hooliganism. Both ID in 1995 and last years FOOTBALL FACTORY either failed to convince or just went down the familiar exploitative road of glamorising the buzz and thrill of violence.
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Fortunately HOOLIGANS portrays this more realistically, sure there's the stereo types in designer clothes (The Chavs) as we call them now where loyalty, respect, revenge, dignity and pride are what they live for, not the enjoyment of the actual sport. This simply acts as the excuse to fight in a traditional gang warfare environment. The prospect of West Ham's cup tie with Millwall brings joy to the faces of both sets of fans.

Casting Elijah Wood is a bold move, he looks like a Choirboy but this adds to the films main storyline of innocence corrupted. The acting is better than average, despite letting his cockney accent slip on occasions, Gang leader Charlie Hunnam shows a genuine mix of anger, aggression and compassion which holds the film together.

This won't win awards but it's refreshing to see a film finally tackling the subject matter that unfortunately has been a shameful factor of Britain's attitude towards football as we are constantly under threat of being disqualified from International tournaments due to the bad behaviour of soccer hooligans.

Note that they say the film is rather better than The Football Factory, which has been criticised for being too ambivalent about the whole hooligans morality.

So it’s entirely possible that the Empire review was just one person’s knee-jerk. It’s personally not my favourite film mag (unless it is nice to Elijah of course :p ) – and it does veer widely in the accuracy of its star ratings.

Other reviews, such as The Guardian and Sight & Sound, will undoubtedly be more circumspect. Reviewers from say The Daily Mail will soundly criticise the film for fomenting violence, which can only help its box office. ;)

As for Dougie Brimson – bah. One review has made him run away with his tail between his legs. And of course any faults with the film are to do with the direction, not his original story. :rolleyes: I only hope that he gets left with egg on his face.

Where is everybody? It's so quiet around here! :(

Seems like a bit of a slack season to me - several people are on holiday. They will be back! :)

I, too, LOVE that Flaunt interview! Elijah must have felt so comfortable with the interviewer, or would he have opened that wide from the heart as he did, otherwise? It's a *wonderfu*l read.
Honey, a few posts ago you linked to Tg's essay "Part of the Solution". That's so very apt. I've read this essay I think three or four times now, and thought, how well Tg captured one of Elijah's traits - his empathy in high gear.

TG wrote in her brilliant essay:
But I'm not surprised that someone with such a gift for understanding other people is also someone who sees himself as perhaps "too" open and trusting, who spends mostly unpublicized efforts on behalf of causes he sees as important, and who, as far as I can tell from over five years of following him, would never consciously decide to hurt or use someone for his own advancement. In order to plan to use people, you have to shut off your understanding of them as human beings and see them as things.

Elijah in Flaunt magazine: “Perhaps it all comes from having to grow up so fast. Early on, I felt a great responsibility to other people’s emotions. I still tend to overthink what I say or do because I always want to try and do the right thing, often to my own detriment. It can be kind of
overwhelming.”
This understanding of and caring for other people's emotions makes him a brilliant actor, but sometimes it must be pretty difficult for him to draw a clear line between his own needs and the needs of others. - Maybe he finds an outlet for this tight-rope walk in his darker characters like Patrick or Kevin.

OK, Honeyelf, I'll stop cleaning bathrooms for a few minutes, if I must, and post something.

I still tend to overthink what I do or say because I always try and do the right thing, often to my own detriment. It can be kind of overwhelming.

This could have been said by Sean Astin. Maybe they recognize this aspect of themselves in the other and this is why they understand one another.

ylla, no drugs during Lij-fest? (Elwoodstock?) Does this mean no coffee or chocolate? :eek:

C4

Obviously I speak here without having seen Green Street, but the people slating the film seem to be trying to measure its value simply as a true portrayal of the world of football hooligans, while forgetting that in essence it intended to be a work of fiction, made to entertain the masses.

The following quotes from Dougie Brimson leave me thinking that he was naively hoping the film would be made for his own kind as some kind of celebration of this ‘culture’ that he so loves.

“ For whilst it is a good movie, as an authentic study of English hooliganism Green Street actually falls short by some margin.”

“After all, when you have to include some form of explanation for just about every single aspect of the culture, you not only face an uphill battle keeping those who live and breathe that same culture entertained, but you risk incurring their wrath if you get anything wrong.”

If he so wants to see an authentic study, why doesn’t he just make a documentary? The glaring factual errors in films based around ice-skating or ballroom dancing have never stopped me enjoying the overall picture if the rest of the film and the story is good, and I was one of the millions who enjoyed LOTR completely oblivious to any deviations from the books. Peter Jackson was clever enough to know what does and doesn’t work on film, and perhaps Lexi has also been wise enough to appreciate just how much of the world she knows needs to be included to give the film its story.

Also, while I am not sure exactly how many people here in the UK do actually partake in the Saturday Scene, as Dougie describes the hooligans culture, I wouldn’t have thought it was anything like enough to build your movie around keeping them entertained. I for one will appreciate (and probably need) explanations of both the hooligan scene and life in London, since both are totally alien to me.

I don’t know how they are intending to promote the film in the UK, but I think they really need to bring in Elijah for some personal appearances on daytime TV and on radio shows to counter any pre-release negativity and push the film to the wider audience. In successful films, it is never the bigger picture that pulls us in, it is caring about the main characters and their journey. Elijah has so many stories to tell about his own time spent as a young American actor among English actors in New Zealand, that he could make people want to go along and see how Matt becomes part of an aspect of British culture. You only have to look at the TV programms around to realise that most British love seeing a fish out of water story, while the majority want nothing to do with football hooligans. The people in charge of promotion really have to play the right cards with this particular movie if they want it to go down well.

Good post, Skate! Dougie is absolutely dreaming if he thinks this movie was made for the footie hooligans! And yes, I think Elijah does need to do some promoting of the film in the UK so that people will drop this ridiculous notion that he's miscast as a thug! He's not meant to be a thug from the beginning, people! He'd meant to the outsider that gets sucked in, and then embraced against all expectation!

Some guy named David Poland is saying
Not much enlightening will occur because no one will see Everything Is Illuminated. (Maybe they can add some penguins.)
Here's the LINK (http://latinoreview.com/films_2005/wip/illuminated/illuminated.html)
:confused: :confused: :confused:
Why is he dissing this movie? So far the only thing I can see wrong with it is that the marketing has been woefully inadequate! (Why did I have to watch Madagasscar trailers for months, and this trailer is out only now???)
Well, we know he's wrong about one thing; there'll be lot's of Lijah fans in seats on opening day! :D There are more of us than you think, Mr. Poland! Prepare to be wrong, very wrong!

honey!

Good Morning.

From the Hooligan group at Yahoo I saw a link for a new UK/Ireland website for Hooligans, oops ;) I mean Green Street Hooligans, :rolleyes: I'll get it right, it's Green Street. It's at Yahoo Movies UK/Ireland. I would have posted the link but it does contain a warning regarding offensive language. If you can't find it, PM me. I saved the address.

I'm one of those who hasn't been posted a lot recently, but I"m here and lurking when I can. My computer has been torturing me lately by bumping me off whenever I start to read anything interesting. It's a control thing--my computer is trying to take control.

But I did manage to read the Flaunt interview and I loved it. As I've said before, Elijah proves to be a person worth being interested in. Even without swooning, or even if a person didn't like all of his movies...it is such a reward to hear someone who is kind and complex and smart and who "tries to do the right thing." So he is worthy of being a point of discussion...in our case, a lot of discussion. All IMVHO. :cool:

Can anyone produce for me the quote from Richard Taylor about how of all the actors on set, Elijah and Cate Blanchet were the ones who had a special aura about them, that set them apart from everyone else? I read it here and elsewhere, but didn't save it.

Finally saw the EiI trailer --quite a wrestle, me and my computer--but I did it.
Beautiful. Some differences from the book were indicated--but they seemed like smart differences for film

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Another viewpoint from one involved in the filming of Hooligans.

***Spoilers***

Monday, August 1st 2005

Cass Pennant Reviews New Movie Green Street/Hooligans

I dunno if any movie made for cinema entertainment about a football firm can give you real. Real was achieved by the guy sitting beside me who we all knew as Butch. 20 years ago he came to us with the idea for making a fly-on-the-wall TV documentary about the ICF. Back then our world was pure violence and for me two decades of it, once or twice costing me my liberty. The surprise this new movie brings to someone that more that knows the score is the way it takes you beyond the violence to incorproate the other story we never wanted you the viewer to know.

Taking the words of our own legend Mr. Bill Gardner 'You never leave a man down' (True words if you know who BG is.) Then look no further than the scene in the film that has Cold Mountain star Charlie Hunnam who as Pete Dunham goes back to rescue Matt Buckner (Elijah Wood) who gets trapped and cornered by the Zulu's. Now if you have read the books Top Boys and Terrace Legends in it the Real Guys say to a man, belonging to a firm was like in a way choosing your own family. Some will say the bond of a football firm never leaves you and I myself have always maintained the firms attributes of loyalty to each other together with the honour, pride and passion, if that could be bottled it would be priceless. What belonging to a firm gave Matt Buckner in the film was ultimately the bringing out the strength of character he never knew existed within himself. Nobody can just walk into a firm as he did and not put a few noses out of joint. This is a world where his loyalty had to be proved. Something clearly displayed when he changed his plans to rush back and rejoins the GSE (Green Street Elite) to take part in the films final big off. The change in his character is never better shown that at the films ending when back in the real world of the office job.

This Lexi Alexander directed movie is packed with inter-gang member tensions, strong-willed characters like Bovver (Leo Gregory) who would make a good A.S if my own film gets put into production next year. Bovver just has his own ideas on the firms affairs which makes far more for the reality for me. Previous films make it appear like Lets get together boys and do these c***s. Yet my own memories was there was always plenty of issues going on with the firm because we were all gangs within gangs.

There's a little nothing scene in the film which reminds me well of when your football days was what you lived for. The scene where the cards are first delt out in the train of the travelling away supporters. The cardschool was always the signal for me of the day's adventures to be starting. That's magic moment of no return, you are all together and on your way. And those waiting ahead for you will know that too. This is the time for the little glance around at every one. The boys look cool, calm, even excited, or whatever, certainly no sign of the butterflies feeling engulfed up inside you. 'Will we run, will we get done and which of us will get nicked.' And appropriately the standout track form the movie kicks in as the lyrics of 'Stand Your Ground' from the hoolie rappers Acarine come filtering through. That scene for me chaps was vintage, pure and simple.

Behind the scenes I expect there must have been some strong steel resolve shown in getting this released to a cinema audience. It amuses me that a film of this nature and subject will always throw up the old chestnut that its gloryfying violence. You know if its a gangster film, go ahead, kill 'em dead. Hollywood kills them dead, dead, dead. But mention its football and the v-word, you can be sure out will come the something to say that's already been said ban the bloody film brigade. I'll give 'em one word when they say this 'charge.' One thing's for sure they won't stop this becoming a cult film movie like the likes of A Clockwork Orange, Quadraphenia, The Warriors. Be sure to add Green Street/Hooligans. When I was offered the chance to see an early preview (film out Sept 9th) I went with the view I might be seeing a big money version of another movie I enjoyed The Football Factory. I am sure a few of you will want to make comparisons for that film was a major success last year. But director Lexi Alexandra [sic] a former kick-boxing champion gives us more than Stone Island's logo sniffing Charlie and she's smart enought to know most the film going public will never have experienced being in a firm, yet in Green Street (Hooligans rest of world) she will have you thinking like a firm member and I defy anyone of you not to find yourself humming the West Ham fans anthem Bubbles not matter who you say you support. The cinema I was in the first strains could be heard from down the front and by the time it reached the back row it had become a full blown chorus of Forever Blowing Bubbles. Those that would never entertain a East End singalong are our rivals from across the river who will take great pleasure in knowing the pit you will feel in your stomach when you take-in the body count results of the films final big off (location and scene not unlike FF, so go back 3 spaces.)

(continued)

Okay there can be no love lost with Millwall, I don't like 'em, nobody likes them and of course they don't care anyway. There man in the film is called Tommy Hatcher and is played by a Geoff Bell. This character doesn't need any announcing, you only need one look at his to see 'Wall and South Londoner. I'm not familiar with actors names but I would take a bet he is nailed on for the next big gangster flick.

So let's cut to the dash, crazy, mental, goodlooking boys going football, whats all the hype about, is it better that FF? Ooh it's got Elijah Wood and there's another actor and whats he in now? Good actors with dodgy accents, effing hammers film, heard it ain't bad, who's the sort in it whatever you hear and read about it, my money's on you won't be waiting around for the DVD to come out, Get in with the GSE which, it's already becoming legend. 'We are the famous, the famous.....'

Cass Pennant wrote about EW DJing the wrap party for Hooligans in May of 2004, the Faculty may recall.

As the hard core hoolie extras boogied with a Hollywood cast and crew we discovered the talents of Elijah Wood, Lord of the Thugs, knows no bounds. The music was heavy, funky, and summer all rolled into one, as the strains of hiphop, R&B, and classic soul were spun on the decks by none other, and he played the whole night to suggest he is one serious DJ who happens to put his acting career first. I knew the night's DJ knew his stuff the moment I heard the funk of Ohio Players--now there's one for the original soul boys. But looking up to see it was Elijah doing the mixing of some badd a** funk and soul classics--just quality, little fellow, quality.

C4

ETA-I left the punctuation, spelling, and grammar as is.

ETA-I left the punctuation, spelling, and grammar as is.
Thanks, C4! I wondered about that. Cass sounds like a character! One who's bumped his head a few too many times! ;) I think he's all for the movie, but was so distracted by the spelling, grammar etc. that I'm frankly a little confused! :rolleyes:

honey!

I was a bit confused also, honeyelf, but after reading it many times while typing, I concluded that he likes it. I think. :lol:

I am still finding my typos; my ETA was a disclaimer so that The Faculty would not think I had thrown all spelling and punctuation out the window!

C4

Hi, all :k . Just back from spending the greater part of a week helping (along with two of my brothers) my mom move from her house of 40+ years into an apartment. Too tired, physically and emotionally, to do much right now. I've at least caught up on the thread, but not on any trailers or interviews. (And I should probably pay some bills, do some laundry... :rolleyes: )

zkg - Hope whatever it was you were looking ahead to went well.

from C4:
This could have been said by Sean Astin. Maybe they recognize this aspect of themselves in the other and this is why they understand one another.
Very possible. They both carried a lot of responsibility for their families at an early age. Even though Elijah was told he could stop acting any time he wanted to, kids tend to be very perceptive about things like the family financial situation, and when you've got a kid as perceptive as Elijah... Can you imagine him staying home happily watching cartoons while his mother worked two jobs to make ends meet, when he knew he had the ability to help? Even though I believe him when he says acting was a lot of fun, I'm sure he realized there was more to it than that.

from Alyon:
As I've said before, Elijah proves to be a person worth being interested in. Even without swooning, or even if a person didn't like all of his movies...it is such a reward to hear someone who is kind and complex and smart and who "tries to do the right thing." So he is worthy of being a point of discussion...in our case, a lot of discussion.
Beautifully said :) . Makes me even prouder of "our boy." Thanks.

www.everythingisilluminatedmovie.com

Enjoy! :k

Achila, I'm still getting the page that says, "future home of everythingisilluminatedmovie.com". Did they take it back down to work on it further, do you suppose, or am I missing something? :confused:

:)

BunnieBugs, try this:

http://wip.warnerbros.com/everythingisilluminated/

I think maybe this is what Achila was aiming for. :)

SandCastles

Ah, yes, Sandcastles. That did the trick. Thank you! :)


I only just now have read the interview with Elijah that was in "Flaunt" magazine (I wanted to wait until I had it in my hot little hands -- yes, I know I'm peculiar), so I'll have to go back and read the discussion that has been going on regarding that lovely piece, as I didn't want to know anything about the article until I'd read it (see, I told you: peculiar). ;)

Thank you for directions to the Flaunt interview. Its a wonderful read and further cements my opinion that he really is a warm and caring human being. There's no false facade to him. He really is as genuine as he seems to appear in TV interviews. What you see is what you get. :)

The EII trailer is also making me very excited about seeing this film! Even my husband, who "puts up with" my Lotr/Frodo/EW obsession is interested in seeing it! I dont know how I'm going to stand the wait until its released in the UK.( Is that November? ) I am going to try to avoid film spoilers (although I have read the book but its not quite the same thing ) but thats a long time to use my willpower! :eek:

The Official Eii website is a treasure trove of goodies. The wallpapers will soon be vying with my daughters "Stargate Atlantis" one as the wallpaper of choice. :D The Sammy Davis Junior Junior one is priceless. :cool:
Such goodies lately- thanks to all for sharing. :k

Sorry for the confusion, Bunnie and all -- I thought when I clicked on that on someone's LJ, that the "official site" was the one that came up. But there are some really interesting things on there -- I don't know that I've ever seen a movie site with so much discussion about the director/actors/ etc. This is obviously a very personal project for all involved.

On another note, see this -- *link removed* -- some incredible Elijah art here.

Achila, sorry, I had to remove the link for a few pictures on the site that weren't PG-13. Everyone, please PM Achila if you want the link. I had to wonder, though, how this artist was claiming copyright on those pictures, since she's using the image of various celebrities in them - and I can't believe that she's got their permission to do so. I don't know what the etiquette / law is, but she apparently included at least one of the pictures in a juried art show (I'm assuming at art school) and is selling them - don't celebrities have some legal control over how their images are used, if someone is making a profit off that use? (I can't imagine Russel Crowe would be happy to find out she's selling pictures of him completely starkers. ;) )

And I didn't comment on it earlier, but the EII trailer had me stuffing my shirt in my mouth to keep from squealing so loud that my children would hear. :D I can't wait to see this one - it looks absolutely amazing. The trailer had me both giggling and tearing up, so that's a good sign. :)

Oops -- sorry Narya, I didn't realize that.

No problem, Achila. The images weren't in the Elijah section, and I understand you not seeing them - it's my job to go looking for the nudes. :D

A tough job, but someone's got to do it! :k

Ah HA says I, there has been a LOT going on while I was vacationing and unplugged as well. I see the HEAT is still with us though. But OH :D OH :D
I LOVE the EII trailer (sniffle) and website(still exploring).
And the Flaunt photos and interview. He is just... well....like you all have said....so .....himself. A dose of Elijah is like Music to my ears, Always a little soundtrack going on in the background for me.

And the Empire PHOTOS and interview. :D Lots of lovely little nuggets there. I Will want to remember those, especially Liev's descriptions :k of Elijah.

Well off to find that Flaunt magazine in the store (sounds like a keeper) and so many downloads and threads to catch up on. Back later.
Missed you all. :k
saile

Saile, howdy! I have been doing my lurking in a very shoddy manner. When you said ...

And the Empire PHOTOS and interview. Lots of lovely little nuggets there. I Will want to remember those, especially Liev's descriptions of Elijah.
... which Empire photos and interview did you mean? The one connected to Green Street Hooligans and the unfavourable review?

Just want to know if I missed another nugget. :p

Thanks!

Mechtild :)

There's an interview with Lij in today's Sunday Times. I've copied this from grievousangel's LJ - although I would have done it if she hadn't - honestly ;)
His huge, sail away blue eyes could be spotted from the shuttle Discovery. - I love that!! And I'm amazed they actually name the place that he dj's every other Tuesday :eek: I've got to put this into two posts - not sure if I can post the second part immediately.

Kicking The Hobbit
Elijah Wood has mercifully avoided one of Hollywood's deepest elephant traps; once a child star, these days he is addicted to nothing more serious than coffee and cigarettes. Now the young actor needs to negotiate his way round another trap; the typecasting and obscurity that is so often the flip side of overwhelming early fame, in his case the enormous success of The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Yet Wood insists he never worried that he might not escape that particular Hollywood Mordor. "My theory was always that if I continued to work and put myself in roles that were different from Lord of the Rings, people would remember I was not just Frodo, but had been in a lot of other things as well," he says.

Indeed, Wood started working in Hollywood when he was just eight - first in a Paula Abdul video - and had an impressive career in films such as "The Adventures of Huck Finn", "Flipper" and "The Ice Storm" well before The Lord of the Rings came along. But he has now set about changing whatever perceptions may linger from his portrayal of Frodo Baggins. Nearly four years after he shot his last scene in New Zealand on the Tolkien epic, Wood is taking his chances in edgy, low-budget independent movies that cost less that a crew lunch on The Lord of the Rings. He popped up last year in "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind", but the controversial new British movie "Green Street", set in the violent subculture of London football hooliganism, will define Wood in his first adult leading role. (He is also the star of the forthcoming "Everything Is Illuminated", based on the book by Jonathan Safran Foer, directed by the actor Liev Schreiber).

In "Green Street", titled "Hooligans" in the United States, Wood plays Matt Buckner, a young American who comes to London to live with his sister after he has been kicked out of Harvard, where he had been studying journalism. Through his brother in law, Pete, played by Charlie Hunnam, he gets involved with a violent gang - a so called "firm" - of West Ham hooligans called the Green Street Elite (GSE).

Directed by the young German film maker Lexi Alexander, "Green Street" is sure to spark controversy because of the degree to which Matt, Wood's character, is seduced by the violence that fuels the lives of young guys in firms like the GSE, which is clearly based on West Ham's notorious Inner City Firm (ICF). The film, shot in just five weeks in April and May 2004 on location in London, was inspired by the time Alexander herself spent as a hardcore supporter of SV Waldhof Mannheim football club in Germany as a teenager. Like a British "Fight Club", "Green Street" is suffused with brutality and blood; it has eight serious fight sequences and not everyone gets out alive.

"I wasn't really familiar with hooliganism," says Wood. "I knew about football culture and about how huge football is, much greater than the fanaticism associated with any sport in the United States. But I didn't really know about the violence. Then I read the script, which was really shocking about that side of the fans. It was fascinating to me because it was unfamiliar. I loved the idea of this character falling into that world accidentally, and the arc he takes within it. First, he's attracted to the sense of brotherhood he has with these people and the kind of community they have, which is very strong. But then the violence becomes attractive to him as well."

To get a feel for milieu and the people being portrayed, Wood spent two weeks in London last April, before the film started shooting, rehearsing, hanging out with the ICF, going to local pubs and to games, including a tense local derby between West Ham and their bitter rivals, Millwall. Coincidentally, the firm centres on the enmity between the two clubs' firms. "It was an interesting process getting this movie made," says Wood. "Going into it, we knew there was a lot of controversy associated with the subject, so we didn't want to be overly honest about the kind of movie we were making. We slightly fabricated what we were doing - to West Ham - to be able to film there, and we changed the movie title to "The Yank" while we were making it. West Ham thought we were making a movie about football, not football violence."

West Ham even allowed them to film at the ground during a match, although filming was nearly shut down at one stage in the game, because the actors were apparently so convincing, the police were worried they would get caught up in real violence.

"We went to a local pub before going to one West Ham game," Wood recalls. "It was fascinating to watch them get riled up and create this energy before walking to the match. They go there to get pissed and ready. The place fills up with people, songs. One person will start singing, and then the whole pub will start going up in song. It's electrifying, but scary too. It's slightly unhinged. Especially because so many people are pissed by the time they leave. There is something frightening about being in the middle of all of that. As an American, it's unfamiliar, and having an American there, especially an American actor, was not necessary something they love - and I certainly got a lot of Frodo references! Luckily, people like Lord of the Rings, so it wasn't so bad. But you really feel like you're in somebody else's territory, that you're encroaching.

The hooliganism aside, going to a match is just so exciting," he adds. "I'm not a huge football fan, or a sports fan, but I've never felt the kind of kinetic energy that comes out of a football match."

Wood says he began to understand why young guys were so attracted to the hooligan life. "Getting involved and getting to know many former and current ICF guys was the most fascinating thing to me," says Wood. "I think what can easily be a large misconception about hooligans is that they are thugs in their daily lives. Which is not at all the case; many of these are people with families and good jobs. They lead these double lives. Most of the time they are good citizens, not criminals, and then on match day all hell breaks loose.

I think there's a variety of reasons for that; the sense of brotherhood, the sense of belonging. Then there's the rush that comes not even from the violence itself, but from the possibility of violence."

Wood and the other actors had to train hard for the fight sequences, some of which were very complicated, involving as many as 100 extras. "The fighting style was not sophisticated, because these guys are not exactly talented fighters," he says. "They are drunk, and they don't really know a lot about fighting. It's juts sheer brutality. It was hard, because we were aware that it couldn't look choreographed or professional. The film doesn't glorify the violence. It shows that you end up losing more than you gain through violence."

I had met Wood once before, when he was publicising the last of The Lord of the Rings films. He was still living with his mother and younger sister. He was 20, but he seemed like a kid; tiny, his skin almost translucent, peach-fuzz about his chin and upper lip, boyishly over-eager to please, but also terribly nervous, chewing gum non stop, smoking a lot, his nails bitten down. Although Wood was brought up in Hollywood - he and his family moved there when he was eight to pursue his career - in many ways he led a sheltered life. His mother managed his career and, until The Lord of the Rings, always went with him on location. And he was home schooled, which means that until his mid teens he never had many friends his own age.

Last October he finally bought his own house in Venice, near where we're having lunch outdoors at a funky café. With large sunglasses and long, thin sideburns, he looks like any Venice hipster, but as soon as he takes off the shades, his huge, sail away blue eyes could be spotted from the shuttle Discovery. He carries himself with much more confidence and ease these days. Dressed in a generic white t-shirt and blue jeans, his almost black hair mussed up into a faint peak, he looks taller and more comfortable in his skin. He doesn't light up a cigarette until we have finished eating and, thankfully, seems to have lost his gum-chewing habit.

At 24, Wood is also enough of his own person to acknowledge that movies are not the be-all and end-all for him. His biggest interest - an obsession, really - is music. He has an encyclopaedic knowledge of popular music, from delta blues to 1950s jazz, from Django Reinhardt to the Strokes, and he can talk as easily about the blues legend Skip James as he can about his latest enthusiasm, the Glasgow band Sons and Daughters. He owns in the region of 4,000 CDs and has just started buying 78s.

I got a couple of Leadbelly 78s and a couple of Billie Holliday 78s," he says, his voice bubbling with excitement. "It's so rad. But I have to be careful, some of them are so rare and so expensive."

Every other Tuesday night, Wood and a friend deejay from their iPods at a club in Hollywood called the Bar.

"I never go with a set in mind," he says. "It's completely improvisational and fun. There's nothing like playing music for people." Wood may even take a break from Hollywood to pursue his interest in music. He hopes to get a radio show on the satellite radio network Sirius. Most importantly, he is going to start his own record label, to be called Simian Records. "Being such a fan I've never really wanted to be in a band, and I'm not really good enough to be in a band - I play guitar, but barely - and I don't really write music, so I'd rather release music that I believe in, and try to get things out there that I think are interesting and worth hearing, for no financial gain, purely because I love it and am passionate about it."

Wood is so genuinely enthusiastic about the possibilities that his passion for music can bring him that, on reflection, I don't think he would be terribly perturbed if Hollywood played a less important part in his life than it has up to now. "I don't think I could ever be completely satisfied by acting," he admits. "I have a lot of other interests, things I believe in and am passionate about. And there's no reason not to go for it. Life is full of so many different things and so many different avenues, and I believe all of them should be explored".

Thank you for that article, shireling! I'm up too early for a Sunday but that was very nice to read with a cup of coffee. :)

Thanks Shireling! I bought that paper today and was wondering if it had made it to the Faculty yet. Nothing slips past this thread . :D
I love that his record company is called Simian records. Go Monkey boy! :D
cw0819 posted a link to their website earlier (post #134- thanks cw ) but it looks like its still under developement.

I hope he doesnt get too involved in the record business- at least at the expense of his film work. But thats a bit selfish of me I suppose. He's already had a long film career so the lure of something different is understandable. I'm sure he can manage both. :z:

Thanks for that great interview, Shireling! I'm very happy to hear that he's been getting into old blues! It makes me quite excited to see what kinds of acts he'll sign to Simian! But I'm quite bummed that he seems to be turning away from acting. :( He brings such magic to the screen that I hope a script comes along now and again that will lure him back in front of the cameras.

honey!

Just want to know if I missed another nugget. :p

Thanks!

My mistake of course. I meant the Premiere interview and actually the nuggets I spoke of came from the Flaunt interview which by the way was not in the store I went to yesterday :( . I hope it is still on the shelves elsewhere. Where did you all find it?

Thanks for the Sunday Times interview Shireling et al.......I too HOPE he finds good material to lure him to acting. :z: He is MAGIC.
saile

Thanks for posting that interview, shireling! :k :cool:

I love that he's buying 78's :cool: ! I'm totally out of synch with current music, but the blues and jazz interest is something I can relate to - as is the geekiness of it all :p . The lad understands obsession! That's probably one reason he's gotten along so well with Tolkienites :) . If I had the money to take a break from working for awhile to spend more time delving into Tolkien, I'd do it in a flash. As long as he doesn't stop acting, which I don't think he will - he has to finance the music obsession somehow, if he doesn't care about making money from the label.

His discussion of the hooligan scene is very enlightening for this American, even though I've gotten to know a bit about it lately. It's kind of too bad it's in a British newspaper (at least I assume that's the "Times" being referred to), as IMHO it would get more Americans interested in the movie; it's the clearest description of the emotional aspect of the "Saturday scene," and how someone could get pulled into it, that I've read. I'm also wondering if being in a British newspaper is what led to the publishing of the location where he DJ's. After all, no one in California is going to read this interview, right? :haha:

Some other things I was glad to see:
--He didn't light up a cigarette until after they finished eating.
--He was wearing sideburns (I don't much care what he does with his hair, but I do like him in sideburns).
--He has a friend he's connected enough with that the two of them DJ together every other Tuesday. :)

Saile, I found my copy of FLAUNT at the local Borders book store. The current cover is grey, with a herd of odd little bean people holding up the name of the magazine. Open that cover, and either Elijah or Jessica Alba will be right there. Wouldn't you just love to hear the statistics on how many issues the Jessica Alba cover and the Elijah Wood cover sold respectively?

Some other things I was glad to see:
--He didn't light up a cigarette until after they finished eating.
--He was wearing sideburns (I don't much care what he does with his hair, but I do like him in sideburns).
--He has a friend he's connected enough with that the two of them DJ together every other Tuesday. :)

I was glad to see about the cigarette, as well. I'd like to think that he's trying to cut down, but I'm not deluding myself. And I love his sideburns, too! I'm so pleased that he's hanging on to those, and that they actually grow in fairly well (unlike his mustache. :p ) And the friend he DJs with is most likely his friend Jason, the same one who co-dj'ed at the Alternative Press anniversary party, and the owner of the infamous photo album website. ;)

I was also excited about the prospect of him possibly getting a radio show (I don't know much about Sirius, but I'd subscribe or whatever it takes to listen to whatever he cared to say/play). It must have been at least two years ago that I first thought that he'd be perfect for a show a la the late John Peel. :cool:

Popping in with a new and lovely picture, courtesy of the wonderful undone27. This' the cover of the September issue of Spin magazine. Yes, we REALLY need to get a drooly smilie....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/spin.jpg

First--Grumpy, I hope whatever was going on went well. I was thinking about you, but forgot to post. Everything okay???
ANd TG--moving is hard, and moving a parent I imagine can also be a little traumatic. Hope you are rested and recovered.

What a lovely flood of Elijah stuff---thank you Shireling for the transcription-

and oh, Achila!! the cover of Spin!!!!! wow!! WOW!!! :cool:

I love that Elijah is rounding out his life with other things than just acting--and I'll bet that just means he feels the leisure and freedom to pick his roles. Fantastic, in my view. He is going to have such a cool life and is going to stand out as being someone who really creates his own way. I love it. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Lastly, I want to wave at Mariole!! and Vinnie, Tiffany and Mobbits Ezzie, Maggie, and Fafnir--all of whom were in my fair town (which does belong to Vinnie, as well ;) ) and with whom I got to spend two wonderful evenings. Really fine fine women, all. Hotel wreckers, I'm told, but other than that, quite fine ;) :k

Achila, I wasn't under the impression that this was a cover shot; I thought it was a photo to accompany a smallish article inside, but I could be wrong. It's a lovely shot, though (and I'm so glad that it's a new one, unlike the photo that accompanied the Sunday Times article, which I think was nearly seven years old! :eek: ) Love the bare feet. ;)

Achila, that picture...! *drooling smiley* D'ya suppose I can get it wall-paper sized?!

That reminds me; I need to get to the store for one of those home defibrilators! ;)

honey!

That reminds me; I need to get to the store for one of those home defibrilators! ;)


:lol: Oh, Honey! You speak for me, too! ;) :p

tgshaw, it's great to see you back. You really need some down-time after the exhausting process of moving your mom out of her house. I hope she'll adjust well to her new home. I've been trying for years to pry my parents out of their house, to no avail.

On Saturday night, I was at Borders with my hubby, and wasted my time flipping through mags like Real Simple and Oprah's magazine. Now I can't believe I didn't look for Flaunt. :rolleyes:

Since EII is being released by Warner Independent Pictures, which also did the exquisite March of the Penguins, I had some hope that maybe the EII trailer would be shown before Penguins, which we saw on Saturday. Sadly, no EII trailer appeared, although IMHO it would have been a perfect fit for this flick. :( However, I did find comfort in the thought that Happy Feet is also about Emperor penguins. :)

After visiting the site of Simian Records, I just felt like monkeying around... :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Monkey.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Monkey1.jpg

Of course, the monkey pictures are smaller than I thought and I'm one of those who are not good at resizing stuff. But, this one did turn out larger...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Monkey3.jpg

I love that his label is named "Simian Records!" It's just so geekily retro!

Achila, I wasn't under the impression that this was a cover shot; I thought it was a photo to accompany a smallish article inside, but I could be wrong. It's a lovely shot, though (and I'm so glad that it's a new one, unlike the photo that accompanied the Sunday Times article, which I think was nearly seven years old! :eek: ) Love the bare feet. ;)Thanks for the update, luv -- I thought that was what undone had said. I hope they took dozens of photos like this one!

And yes, regarding the other photo -- I thought it totally stupid that they accompanied that Sunday Times article with a picture of him looking eight years old (well, almost).

BTW, Goldenberry, Pelagia and I saw March of the Penguins on Friday night. We also hoped they might show the trailer of EiI with that, but then again, all the trailers that were shown were for "kids" movies, which is who they seemed to think was the intended audience for Penguins.

Listened to and LOVED Terence Jay’s One Blood (both versions) while away. Really ratchet ups the anticipation ;) to see this movie. I know I am not the only one? Hoping :z: there will be a soundtrack released for this movie GSH. We know from the website there is other music of course.

And Seeing the link to devotchka’s How It Ends (also available on iTunes I found) and then in viewing the EII trailer credits at the end, it does say music by Paul Cantelon and that there will be a soundtrack. Looking at the discography for EII at tvtrecords.com, it looks like the Devotchka number is trailer music and not on the soundtrack. It seems Paul Cantelon is a pianist. I will be watching for a release for this soundtrack as well. Amazon has no sign of it (and TG checked your site for music cds as well). It may be an independent only release by tvtrecords. Anyone know?

Does anyone remember that dreadful old song...They're Coming To Take Me Away?
Well I may have to remake that one because If the shoe fits.....or is it..if the song fits...sing it?
:k
I think ylla is describing me as well. My obsession er.... I mean interests are getting out of control! Yikes!

I actually tried to track down the soundtrack (using imbd’s song list) from EW's All I Want/Try Seventeen. For those of you who are fans of That movie, I do have the lovely Martina Sorbara’s Bonnie & Clyde number. You know from the Jones, This is not happening scene. Oh. And Evan Olson’s Not what I Wanted, and.....others..........in case anyone is............
While I am divulging my small obsession with sound I really should share info on the G-rated wonderful audiblebeauty.net site. I always hated Microsoft’s sounds on my computer so I replaced them all with other music and spoken words, a lot from her site.

Oops, sorry for off topic….you can tell I am really hoping there will be sound tracks for these movies I am highly anticipating...... .... :z: :z: pleeeze
saile :D

Has anyone been able to confirm that Simian Records is in fact Elijah's label? So far there is only one blog in a newspaper. The website itself doesn't say anything. Not that it ever will. We all know that Elijah hates self promotion. I never trust the first thing that I read in any newspaper until it can be confirmed.

If anyone is in California, can you check the Secretary of State Corporate Division and see what they have on file for Simian Records? How about Dunn & Bradstreet? They list the owner(s) and other info about the company.

The earlier working title for the label was "It's not yours, it's my music." Where did Simian come from? Why did Elijah (if it is his) name his label Simian Records?

Simian means "monkey" -- it's a perfect name. But wasn't that mentioned in the article itself? I could've sworn it was.

Txtac
Has anyone been able to confirm that Simian Records is in fact Elijah's label? So far there is only one blog in a newspaper.

Well, this is the exact quote from the Sunday Times Interview...and I have no reason to disbelieve them in this matter...

Wood may even take a break from Hollywood to pursue his interest in music. He hopes to get a radio show on the satellite radio network Sirius. Most importantly, he is going to start his own record label, to be called Simian Records. “Being such a huge fan, I’ve never really wanted to be in a band, and I’m not really good enough to be in a band — I play guitar, but barely — and I don’t really write music, so I’d rather release music that I believe in, and try to get things out there that I think are interesting and worth hearing, for no financial gain, purely because I love it and am passionate about it.”

But, by all means....if someone out there, in Faculty-land, can find something on the net that actually confirms that this IS his record label, well, I'm sure that'll sort out a few uncertainties !!

I, for one, am extremely excited about the fact that he is fulfilling exactly what I predicted he'd do, a few years ago...on the basis of what I'd do if I had his money and his particular interests...

On another note...Empire magazine's website has this to say about the EII Trailer :-

Next up is Everything Is Illuminated. We've been waiting for this since Liev Schreiber talked to us about it at last year's London Film Festival. Now he's a very clever fellow, is Mr S, and judging from what we see in this trailer for his debut behind the camera, he's invested every ounce of his intellect, time and care into making this a storming start out of the directing blocks. It already looks like Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar nomination material, and possibly more. Elijah Wood continues to stretch his acting muscles, and possibly strain his eyes.

From the Penguin Gift Shop (google ad on this page):

Sparkling Eyes Penguin Magnet

Penguin Magnet: This Penguin's Baby Blues will charm you! Dazzling eyes sparkle in deep blue!
Who knew? :eek: :haha:

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ETA:
Originally Posted by ylla
Does anyone remember that dreadful old song...They're Coming To Take Me Away?
Well I may have to remake that one because If the shoe fits.....or is it..if the song fits...sing it?
Guess what 45 I found while cleaning out my mom's house last week? :lol: I brought it home with me, of course. :p

I think it's great that Elijah is realizing his dream of setting up his own record label. It's refreshing to see someone in his position following his heart, aiming to help others get a step up on the musical ladder, with no financial gain on his part. I'm sure we all wish him well in his new venture. :) I do hope his passion for music doesn't tempt him away from acting though - that would be such a waste of his talent.

Speaking of music
look who's turned up on drums (http://www.imagemagician.com/images/blossom/Shelbyshire.gif) for Shelybshire's birthday bash!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SHELBYSHIRE!

Shireling - Thanks so much for posting the Sunday Times article. :k

Next up is Everything Is Illuminated. We've been waiting for this since Liev Schreiber talked to us about it at last year's London Film Festival. Now he's a very clever fellow, is Mr S, and judging from what we see in this trailer for his debut behind the camera, he's invested every ounce of his intellect, time and care into making this a storming start out of the directing blocks. It already looks like Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar nomination material, and possibly more. Elijah Wood continues to stretch his acting muscles, and possibly strain his eyes.

Lady Wendy Thanks for that. Sounds promising. :) It is a wonderful trailer. Does anyone have a definite date for the UK opening of EII? At IMDB it states 2nd December! Surely we won't be that far behind the US? :z:

[Crawling up out of 2 weeks in the throes of fanfic]

shireling, thanks for the wonderful Times article! Interesting to see the writer’s comparison of Elijah today with (I assume) 2003. Apparently, it’s not just his looks that have changed quite a bit.

And Lady Wendy, thanks for posting the Empire comment on the EII trailer. That raised my spirits again, after they had been thoroughly depressed by the mag’s review of the-film-known-by-the-utterly-unmemorable-title-of-Green-Street, which I just got round to reading.

AND, Achila – the Spin picture! Yowzah! Looks as if he’s on a boat, doesn’t he? Do you know if this issue is out in stores yet?

saile, I’m another fan of the All I Want soundtrack, especially “Not What I Wanted,” which I think goes perfectly with that scene (as well as being a great song in its own right). When you say that you tracked down parts of it, do you mean that you found bits and pieces on other albums, or what?

AND, Achila – the Spin picture! Yowzah! Looks as if he’s on a boat, doesn’t he? Do you know if this issue is out in stores yet? That's what I thought -- that porthole. I don't know if it's out yet -- no one's mentioned that they've seen it.

There's also an article, I just found out, in Jane magazine, which is on the stands even as we speak.

That's what I thought -- that porthole. I don't know if it's out yet -- no one's mentioned that they've seen it.

There's also an article, I just found out, in Jane magazine, which is on the stands even as we speak.

I checked today for Spin. The August issue is still in the stores. OOhhh OOhhh another article in Jane. That means another trip to the store tomorrow. Hmm, what exactly is Jane magazine? Culture, fashion, music? See, I'm starting to learn the lingo...what's that saying about old dogs..?
saile

Jane magazine is aimed at women 18-34, which automatically disqualifies me. :rolleyes: They've probably got old-lady-trying-to-purchase-age-inappropriate-media sensors at all the doors of the local book store! ;)

What is the JANE article, Achilla? Is it worth the bearing the sniggering of the twenty-something, multiply-pierced clerks? Or shall I just wait for the scan to show up on one of the fan-sites?

Well, my darling long-suffering and very clever husband helped me do some squeesearch tonight on the Simian Records site. We learned that the 310 area code is right about where Santa Monica and Venice Beach are. We also learned that Simian Records has had a presence on the internet since 2002, which is curious since articles in the past few weeks have given other possible lable names, or just said "as yet un-named..." If you Google on "Simian Records" you will also find that there is already music on a label of that name. We did a non-comprehensive search of DBAs in the state of California, Los Angeles County, and Santa Monica county and found none for "Simian Records." For me the jury is still out if that is really SimianRecords.com is really Lij's site. Guess only time will tell. There is certainly a lot of sniffing around going on there.

I went to Borders book store last night looking for the Spin issue with Lij in it. Was told it won't hit magazine shelves until later this week. That picture is absolutely gorgeous, and I hope there are at least one or two more in there like it!

honey!

Happy Birthday, Shelbyshire!

C4

Re: the article in Jane. I was told about it by one of my LJ friends. Lij's name is on the cover -- that's all I know about it. She read it standing at the newsstand, so it must not be that long. I'm sure someone will get it and scan/transcribe it. One thing that was curious, that she mentioned to me -- he said in the article that he's not as into music as he has been in the past. Kinda funny thing for a guy who's starting a record label to say. But who knows what he actually said or if he actually said that.

Here's their website -- http://www.janemag.com/jane/ -- it must be the September issue

...But who knows what he actually said or if he actually said that.
Or when he said it - depending on how long ago he gave the interview. It's also possible that if he's starting to look at music as a business, he's not as "into" it fan-wise as he was. (To discover great new bands you also have to listen to a lot of... not so great... ones. :p )

Happy Birthday, Shelbyshire!
Someone's watching you... ;)

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/19ab85a0.jpg

While I was adding that picture to the website so I could link to it, I put up another Paint Shop page. Since I just sneaked (snuck?) 4 new Jonathan pages (http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/id66.htm) into the public part of the website for August, this one is of Frodo - all Moria related. You can go straight to the new page (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/id27.htm), or click on the picture of the hands on the guest book page (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/) to get to all the Paint Shop pages.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHELBYSHIRE!!!

Great pics, TG. BTW, the one of Jonathan with Lista -- I hadn't realized it before but it sure does look like his ears are red. He's obviously embarrassed. Hard to imagine an actor could so thoroughly inhabit a character that he would have that person's physiological reactions but Elijah manages to do just that. It amazes me once again.

ETA -- One of my friends has the Spin article. Apparently, on the cover, it says, "Elijah Wood Trashes The White Stripes", the article is somewhat small but he's a bit...b*tchy. Once again, the indie boy has his say, without caring what anyone thinks -- Bravo! That pic I posted is quite large, from the sound of it.

Happy Birthday, Shelbyshire! :)

The latest Entertainment Weekly showed up in my mailbox yesterday--the Fall Movie Preview issue. Naturally there were only two films in which I had much interest. ;) There was a rather small but nice write-up on EiI and a one-line mention of Hooligans (which was actually one line more than I expected). But my heart sank when I found the list of films being released by date, and saw no fewer than fourteen films ALL coming out on September 16! Including some Reese Witherspoon romantic comedy that got a full page :rolleyes: and a new Johnny Depp film. Now I'm worrying that Jonathan and friends will be buried amid the sea of competition. :(

Goldenberry, that's quite a bit of competition :( . Saving graces may be that EII seems like a movie that people will discover gradually through word of mouth rather than flock to on the first weekend (as long as it gets enough business to survive the first weekend in any one place), and that IIRC it's opening in only a few places on September 16 so there will be an opportunity for word of mouth to spread to cities where it's still "coming soon" at that point--ETAsk: am I remembering that correctly? I don't expect it to be a blockbuster hit, but I do expect it to get good notice from the majority of critics. Two more hopeful pluses are that it doesn't have a huge budget it has to recoup, and that it could be a movie that some people will go to more than once (possibly more than one layer to explore?).

BTW, DVD of Sin City is out today, IIRC.

Hard to imagine an actor could so thoroughly inhabit a character that he would have that person's physiological reactions but Elijah manages to do just that. It amazes me once again.
Ah, yes. One more piece of evidence in support of the micro-expression theory of Elijah Wood acting :p - that he displays on screen even the emotional reactions that would be unconscious to the character. :cool:

Apparently, on the cover, it says, "Elijah Wood Trashes The White Stripes"...
It's amazing that Spin would even have an interview with Elijah Wood -- Isn't it strictly a music magazine? That's interesting in itself.

I just looked at a few quick search results for "White Stripes" since I know nothing about them, and their new album is drawing mixed reactions. What some of their fans seem to dislike is that they're exploring kinds of music they haven't done before, instead of giving them what they expect, which I'd think would be a positive in Elijah's eyes. So I'm kind of interested in what he has to say about them. Their songs do have, uh, interesting lyrics, most very ambiguous (for example, is one song really about incest?), and some bordering on paranoia.

One search ended up at amazon, where you can get $5 off the new White Stripes album if you also buy... a subscription to Spin magazine. :D

Goldenberry, that's quite a bit of competition :( . Saving graces may be that EII seems like a movie that people will discover gradually through word of mouth rather than flock to on the first weekend (as long as it gets enough business to survive the first weekend in any one place), and that IIRC it's opening in only a few places on September 16 so there will be an opportunity for word of mouth to spread to cities where it's still "coming soon" at that point--ETAsk: am I remembering that correctly?Yep! It's our hope that by the second week, we'll be getting it in the hinterlands 'round Philadelphia way.


I don't expect it to be a blockbuster hit, but I do expect it to get good notice from the majority of critics. Two more hopeful pluses are that it doesn't have a huge budget it has to recoup, and that it could be a movie that some people will go to more than once (possibly more than one layer to explore?). My feeling is that some of the critics will definitely be under the "Liev spell", in that they respect him and like him and his latest round of major awards hasn't hurt either. All good for our cause.

BTW, DVD of Sin City is out today, IIRC. Also yep, although this' the plain vanilla version -- the SE won't be out until November or so.

It's amazing that Spin would even have an interview with Elijah Wood -- Isn't it strictly a music magazine? That's interesting in itself. Lij has been in Spin before, so it's not really a big surprise. I think he was snarky that time too, if I'm thinking of the right interview.

I just looked at a few quick search results for "White Stripes" since I know nothing about them, and their new album is drawing mixed reactions. What some of their fans seem to dislike is that they're exploring kinds of music they haven't done before, instead of giving them what they expect, which I'd think would be a positive in Elijah's eyes. So I'm kind of interested in what he has to say about them. He apparently finds the album "unforgivably weak", but still better than the dreck being peddled by others (e.g., Coldplay, Weezer and Billy Corgan).

Popping briefly in...

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"Uh, what I have to say to August 16th??.... I'd say 'Happy Birthday, Shelbyshire!' Yep." :)

Thanks to all for all the wonderful news, pictures and links I'm just wallowing in :k
Saile, welcome back :)!

Tg, Moria Frodo is heartbreakingly beautiful! *swoon*
:k

Talking of soundtracks Saile I found this link today (on primula baggins LJ) - it lists the tracks on the EII soundtrack:
http://www.tvtrecords.com/artists/?art_id=290&rel_id=503

Can't wait to hear 'Little Jonathan' :k

Interesting to see the writer’s comparison of Elijah today with (I assume) 2003. Apparently, it’s not just his looks that have changed quite a bit.

Pelagia ~ that writer actually got a couple of things wrong (nothing new there :rolleyes: ) - he mentioned that the first time he met Lij he was 20 years old - so he was doing publicity for FOTR, not ROTK.

Blossom ~ another wonderful gif!! I always love it when we have birthdays because I know you'll be treating us again :)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO SHELBYSHIRE!!

But my heart sank when I found the list of films being released by date, and saw no fewer than fourteen films ALL coming out on September 16! Including some Reese Witherspoon romantic comedy that got a full page :rolleyes: and a new Johnny Depp film. Now I'm worrying that Jonathan and friends will be buried amid the sea of competition. :(Actually, that Johnny Depp movie, "The Libertine" was recently moved to December, and with the type of content it has, it was never gonna be competition anyway!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SHELBYSHIRE!

Go on, ask him to dance!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/birthdaypushSam.jpg


Goldenberry mentioned the blurb on EII in the current Entertainment Weekly. The opening of the article: Who says actors always go after the flashy roles? “My character is neurotic and a little bit of a loner,” says Wood of Everything Is Illuminated. “He’s uncomfortable and somewhat odd and strange. I enjoyed that.” No other references to Elijah, but they do talk about the dog.

honeyelf wrote: What is the JANE article, Achila? Is it worth the bearing the sniggering of the twenty-something, multiply-pierced clerks? Or shall I just wait for the scan to show up on one of the fan-sites? honey, you take the magazine to checkout and remark casually, “My niece [daughter, daughter-in-law, etc.] really loves this magazine, so I always pick it up for her.” ;)

shireling, I wondered about that writer's description of Elijah being 20 at the time. Wasn't sure whether he had the wrong age or the wrong film.

Pelagia -- I'm at the office, but thankfully my boss had left by the time I read this:
“He’s uncomfortable and somewhat odd and strange. I enjoyed that.”
:lol: :lol:
Is that an elwoodian statement or what?

Achila -- It's nice to see that employment hasn't kept you from staying on top of the news (and sharing it with the rest of us). :cool: :k That's not a response to any particular post, BTW, just a general observation. :)

There are those out there who understand just what it is that makes life all that much more pleasurable...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Understandment.jpg

:) Thank you for the many birthday wishes! They are appreciated!! :)

Happy Birthday, Shelbyshire! :k :k :k

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"Alright, Shelbyshire, stop teasing me! You can't possibly be that old!"

honey!

Just popping in to wish Shelbyshire a very Happy Birthday for yesterday ...( sheesh, late again !! )
Here's a little something to tide you over until at least one of these films gets released...seems like we've been waiting forever, doesn't it !!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/wendylady1/Elijah/GSE14.jpg

:k

I'm reading about the excuses some of you are coming up with for buying magazines that you feel too old for and grinning, thinking about A) the time I bought YM magazine (a teen mag with Elijah on the cover) without batting an eye, and B) the time I bought a copy of GEAR (again, Elijah on the cover and the caption, "I'm not a damn hobbit") and ended up having a nice chat about Elijah with the twenty-something cashier at Borders. :D Who needs excuses when you have obsession to cater to?

I actually love it when Elijah lets his snarky, tactless opinion about music show; gotta admire the way that he's not afraid to say what he thinks regarding music, much like every other passionate music fan that I've ever encountered. I can't say that I like everything that he likes, but I love it when our tastes and opinions coincide.

And regarding Simian Records: I, too, am withholding judgement about it until we know for sure, but it wouldn't be too surprising that there has been a Simian Records registered since '02, would it? We know he's been working on it for well over a year (I'm trying to remember just when he first mentioned it, and I'm sure it was quite a long time ago), and it would make sense that he wouldn't say anything until it was well underway, and wouldn't spill the name of it until it was nearly ready to launch (which it apparently is, if they're aiming for "later this year"). I'd love an actual confirmation from him (maybe we'll get one from ELF at the end of the month?), but it certainly looks like the real deal to me.

I apparently am really liking parentheses this evening. :p

Happy Birthday, Shelbyshire!

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Happy Birthday Shelbyshire!! I think I'm one minute past it in west coast time. But we like to think we live a little less hurridly, so lets just put the clock back just a teeny bit...

Pelagia:
honey, you take the magazine to checkout and remark casually, “My niece [daughter, daughter-in-law, etc.] really loves this magazine, so I always pick it up for her.”

Yep, Pelagia,that one is in my book of tricks, too.

I came back here to edit my last post with some info that you may be interested in, and see that Bunnie is also up with the lark...

I was just having a rootle around LJ-land, as you do, and I came across this :-
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a369/studentdays/1W.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a369/studentdays/4W.jpg

and a whole load more besides...

(PM me for the link to the fabulous "Elijah Daily" LJ )

One of the comments underneath was from the person who did the original scans of this fan magazine from the early nineties, and she says she is willing to make copies for anyone who really wants them !

Hi everyone. I was the person that scanned the mags for you all to see. Some of you sounded interested in them. If anyone would like to have them for their own I'm more than happy to make copies for you. 20.00 USA 25.00 OUTSIDE USA that includes pay for the copies of all 4 mags in black and white, the envolope it will be flat not folded and shipping. If your interested. E-mail savedgirl4ever2@hotmail.com

I'm assuming that when she says she is willing to make copies, she means the photos featured and not actual copies of the magazine itself...
I wonder if she knows what she is letting herself in for !!!

tgshaw wrote:
“He’s uncomfortable and somewhat odd and strange. I enjoyed that.”
Is that an elwoodian statement or what?
Yes, I thought the same thing! Well, he certainly has the perfect inclinations and instincts to be a classic character actor, as well as the skills.

Lady Wendy, thanks for the magazine pix, which I see include several Stu-era ones. As I said to Achila recently, that (Stu-era) seems to have been such a transient period for him: he never looked that way before or since. Maybe it’s just the tan and the short hair, but I think it’s also because that was a transitional time, between kid and teenager?

BunnieBugs wrote: I'm reading about the excuses some of you are coming up with for buying magazines that you feel too old for and grinning, thinking about . . . . B) the time I bought a copy of GEAR . . . and ended up having a nice chat about Elijah with the twenty-something cashier at Borders. You’re quite right, Bunnie. I’ve had several great conversations about Buffy the Vampire Slayer with cashiers much younger than I. But for people who are still embarrassed at buying items that seem age-inappropriate, other ploys include the Bananas strategy (I think that was the film where Woody Allen tried to surreptitiously buy a porn magazine by slipping it in among more highbrow mags), or what I think of as the Eastwood technique (glare at the cashier – who, as Bunnie has noted, is likely to be much younger – as if you’re just DARING him or her to comment).

HEY EVERYONE! I don't have much time online but I just wanted stop by, and say I look forward to reading everyone's posts later, and I am off to Edinburgh on Monday. Wish me luck! :)

and feel free to visit my blog at eandme.diaryland.com if you want to know what is up with me. :(

Achila -- It's nice to see that employment hasn't kept you from staying on top of the news (and sharing it with the rest of us). :cool: :k That's not a response to any particular post, BTW, just a general observation. :)This' called, "I'm not busy enough." I'm hoping that quite soon, my days won't be spent filling time with cruising LJ, etc., not that I don't love that!

Bunnie, I too get a kick out of Elijah's uncensored opinions. I also love the fact that he's objective enough to criticize bands he loves (White Stripes) as well as ones he doesn't (Coldplay). That's a really difficult thing to do when you're a fan -- I hope I'm never in that situation when it comes to him, because I'm probably far less objective.

Hi! I just have caught up on my lurking, having been away a few days.

So....

Happy Birthday, Shelbyshire!!!!!!!!!!!


Here's Elijah, choosing your birthday gift...


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P. S. Stu is still my favourite of his screen performances (apart from Frodo). I was impressed by the way he disappeared into that role completely. He never looked and acting more unadulteratedly, "boy," to me, even allowing for the haircut, than in any other part. Watching it, it seemed as though he could be none other than a slouching, scrappy, scabby-elbowed, moody youth in real life, alternately cloudy-browed and beaming (with that gap-toothed smile), bursting with inner life.

P. P. S. Wendy, those were neat scans. Thanks so much!

~ Mechtild

[LURK MODE /OFF]

Alyon
Lastly, I want to wave at Mariole!! and Vinnie, Tiffany and Mobbits Ezzie, Maggie, and Fafnir--all of whom were in my fair town (which does belong to Vinnie, as well ;) ) and with whom I got to spend two wonderful evenings. Really fine fine women, all. Hotel wreckers, I'm told, but other than that, quite fine ;) :k
*waves back at Alyon* :cool:
May I delurk for a moment? -- I saw this post a couple of pages back (the Faculty has always moved so fast!) and I wanted to give Alyon a big hug -- yeah, didn't we have fun? A bit of our own Green Street Hooliganism, minus the soccer games.

I suppose you all know this, but there are a whole lot of Faculty lurkers - Billy fans (that's me!), Dom fans, Sir Ian fans, etc - who adore Elwood and follow with interest everything he's doing. I'm hoping I can tag along with Alyon to go see EiI - probably more than once. ;)

So it looks like there's a Faculty person going to the Edinburgh Film Fest? How exciting - I can't wait to see if she has any sightings of our two hobbit boys together!
:) :)

;) - Vinnie

[LURK MODE /ON]

I'm back, having been away at Tolkien 2005, to find all sorts of goodies. A belated Happy Birthday to Shelbyshire and thanks to Shireling for posting the Sunday Times article.

Never having been to anything like it before, I wasn't sure what to expect from Tolkien 2005. What I got was 150 or so papers on subjects ranging from theories of evil via the influence of myths to the problems of translation. Among the guests speaking were Alan Lee, Tom Shippey and Verlyn Flieger. Plus a number of dramatic productions, the highlight of which was a Goon Show version of LOTR, the quest terminating in Moria owing to a small plot change. Performed by members of the Cambridge (University) Tolkien Society it was witty and hilarious and had the entire audience in shrieks of laughter.
It has opened all sorts of windows on the books. I won't bore you with any more, but if anyone is interested in details, pm me and I'll be happy to provide them.

Lucky Eandme, going to Edinburgh. I look forward to a full report.

So it looks like there's a Faculty person going to the Edinburgh Film Fest? How exciting - I can't wait to see if she has any sightings of our two hobbit boys together!



*THUD*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/speechless-smiley-002.gif...That was me, realising only now that I am going to Edinburgh as well, in a few days... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/speechless-smiley-022.gif

Oh dear. ;)

Hi, Vinnie -- I've been known to lurk in the Playgroup and at Brandy Hall, too. ;) :k

Brummie--Not jealous at all :( . If I could have picked one event this year to be at that would have been it, but Britain's very far out of my budget. I think this is only the second time the two groups have combined their meetings. I have the published proceedings from the first one (centenary of Tolkien's birth), but don't know if I'll be able to get a copy this time as I've let my membership slide in both groups :o . (I'm a huge Verlyn Flieger fan!)

POPPING IN VERY PREFLY TO SAY:

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY ,SHELBYSHIRE!!!!!!

And i whant to wich EVERYBODY who is going to Edinburg a Happy trip!!!!
And i am expecting a full report!!!!!And i think i am not alone on wishing i was with you!!!!!

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

EDIT:simulposted with TG! i am not the least jelouse ,who can think that!! :( :( :k ;)

This' how observant I am (and how I'm not a "girly" shopper) -- on my lunch hour today, I ran over to Liberty Place, a complex of upscale stores, in Center City Philadelphia. I've been in there dozens of times -- I went over there to Aveda, to get tea -- and never realized that one of the shoe stores is Aldo (see? Not a girly for real -- my idea of shopping is for "toys" -- books, CDs, etc.). So there, plastered all over the windows and in the store, is our little face wearing it's duct tape. :cool: Man, that made me smile. So if there's anyone who's having trouble getting a set of dogtags and would like some, PM me -- I'd be happy to get them for you.

Happy Belated Birthday Shelbyshire




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Don't tell me all the cake is gone :eek:

Don't tell me all the cake is gone :eek:
I'm sorry, ylla, but we didn't have cake. Actually, the kids made some great chocolate fudge cupcakes though. However, they are making more for, is it Mikey or Michael, though! We could never let such a cute kid go without. ;)

Thank you all once again for the wonderful wishes!!
For those going to Edinburgh, here's wishing you many hobbit sightings!!! :k Nope, not jealous at all here.

VINNIE!! VINNIE!!!VINNIE!!! VINNIE!!!! :k
I'm hoping I can tag along with Alyon to go see EiI - probably more than once.
It's a date!!! And guess what? HoneyElf says Greenstreet Hooligans is opening in Seattle the same day as EiI. Alyon gleefully rubs hands together and wonders just how much Elijah goodness Vinnie can stand and still keep that lovely smile and impecably good nature of hers intact. Alyon wants to test her :D

Eandme--have a blast in Edinburgh!!! Can't wait to hear about it!! :) :D

It's quite possible someone posted this pic here once before..but I just have to say the words on this page make me squee with Such delight:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/ylla/EWleadingman-kindling.jpg



Thanks to Kindlings LJ :k

Elijah Wood.. Leading Man(You Bet Your Sweet Bippy He is ;) )

Boy.. with that saying I'm really showing my age :o

Hey Vinnie! Lurking over here too, are ya? :k

Yes, you’re right, the Faculty does move pretty fast. ((((Faculty)))) I’m over here checking on Alyon to see if she survived the weekend (Mariole too), as well as peeking in on (lurkin’) tg and still wondering when the heck she’s ever going to have a Faculty Gathering for all the fine Elijah ladies. ;)

That is… unless I missed hearing about such a momentous occasion. :eek:


Teeg, you anywhere near the Exhibition?




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For those in the UK, I have just heard from a friend that Elijah is going to be on GMTV (ITV) next Tuesday morning. Their website doesn't confirm this, but maybe it was a late decision to include him.

I will have to tape it, for the very wonderful reason that I will be on my way to Edinburgh for the premiere. After 15 years of never going away without hubby, this will be my 2nd solo adventure in 2 months. I am being led astray by the Faculty, and loving it.

I am really glad Elijah will be promoting the film, as the poster is useless when it comes to pulling in the more general public. I picked several up at the local cinema (after embarrasing hubby by squealing loudly with delight when I spotted them), and all it has suggested to the people I have shown it to is that the film is about thugs. No-one recognised Elijah or Charlie as being famous actors, few noticed the football stands in the background, and the only one who said it must be about football gave the reason for thinking this as being because 'Charlie Hunman looked like Michael Owen' (famous footballer). I expected that the words 'Green Street' would at least mean something to a football fanatic colleague who follows his team everywhere and moonlights as a sports journalist, but he had no idea who the GSE were.

Why bother changing the name from Hooligans, and then put out a poster that suggests that that is all the film is about?

Skater Girl, that has always been the problem with that name change -- it's meaningless. And calling it Green Street Hooligans here in the US doesn't help the cause much either. To tell the truth, that god-awful title that none of us liked, The Yank, would've still been more meaningful than Green Street. :confused: