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txtac
01-24-2007, 09:07 AM
To keep the tradition going, here is our Dean TGShaw's post from #13
Originally Posted by tgshaw:

--And my basic comment is that different actors have different strengths/talents/gifts. There are some things a good method actor could do better than Elijah could. I don't know if he's the best actor possible for the Iggy Popp role. That kind of depends on what sides of Iggy the film is going to show; I thought the comments from his wife about how different he was off-stage from on-stage were interesting and would fit Elijah's acting style in some ways. Not knowing if he's the best person available for the job doesn't mean that I don't think he can pull it off.

OTOH, Elijah's ability to connect at an emotional - even subconscious - level with the character he's playing is something I haven't seen anyone else match (saw a flash or two of it in Billy Boyd in RotK). His best acting involves stuff that would be impossible for anyone to do from an intellectual POV. Micro-expressions, autonomic nervous system responses, undefinable but perfect emotional expression - he "gets" the character's emotional state even when he can't say afterward exactly what he did. I agree with the Huck Finn director who told Elijah he shouldn't try to approach a role in the same way Courtney B. Vance did. It is possible for an actor like Elijah to lose touch with the character by overintellectualizing him.

That might very well mean he's not the best actor for roles that require a more intellectual approach to the character. No, I can't see him becoming a Ranger to the extent Viggo did; that wouldn't have been a great role for him. But I'm also pretty confident in saying that Viggo couldn't have given us The Turn, or the moment between "Do they?" and "Do they, Gandalf?" when you see Frodo's world fall apart on his face, or the complex mix of emotions that Frodo shows on many occasions. I was glad/relieved/hopeful when I heard Elijah'd been cast as Frodo because I knew he had talents that would be needed to play Frodo.

And, yes, especially from the pics on the first day of LotR filming, he popped in and out of character awfully fast. But that was a day largely taken up with making a variety of "hobbit piles," and it was the first day of shooting. I think it's a positive statement to say that you can immediately tell the difference between Elijah in costume and Elijah in character. There's at least one behind-the-scenes shot at the Grey Havens where Elijah's off to the side, obviously not on camera, but also very obviously Frodo. So there are evidently times when he knows it's best to stay within the character. We also know that after the Wheel of Fire scene, he had to go off by himself for awhile because he was so emotionally shaken -- but for him, PJ's "Go deeper" didn't take him deeper into himself but deeper into Frodo, which I think is one of the big differences between his acting and that of actors with a more thought-out acting style.

Stu's probably one of Elijah's most non-subtle and openly-emotional characters, and did allow him to let loose (but there's still a big difference between Stu and Elijah). Huck and Casey are both wonderfully nuanced characters, but because of the kinds of movies they're in that might not be recognized as much as it could be. He'll very possibly never be as universally appreciated as some actors are, because his acting isn't always easy; sometimes it makes you work at it, the way a well-written book does. And there are some types of film "literature" his style is better suited for than some others, but IMHO that's true of all actors, just in different ways.

We started thread #14 talking about Elijah's acting ability. We ended it talking about the Oscars. Somehow that seems fitting. ;)

My puppy powered computer still can't post pictures, so someone post a pic quick to get us started.

To bring everyone up to speed, the current discussion(s) is/are:

1. Elijah is currently over in London filming the Oxford Murders.

2. The Oscar Nominations are out.
2.a. Happy Feet was nominated for Best Animation Feature.
2.b. The Heart Song from Happy Feet that was expected to be
nominated was not. :(
2.c. The movie Bobby was ignored by the Academy. (boo - hiss)

3. The popularity and interest in movie The Lord of the Rings is waning.

Achila
01-24-2007, 09:17 AM
Truthfully, it didn't surprise me that Bobby didn't get any nominations, although I thought that surely it might sneak in somewhere because of the heavily "blue" slant (and heavily blue Hollywood). But the exclusion of Prince for Best Song was a bit of a shocker. Three noms for Dreamgirls for Best Song? Was that compensation for no Best Picture nom????

Hello to all at Thread #15! Although my interests have dimmed just a smidge (because they're being shared, that's all), I'm still here and won't be going anywhere any time soon. And in keeping with our usual tradition of picspam of TOL at the beginning of the new thread, here is my contribution:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/790048.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/2373567.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/e3_2004.jpg

txtac
01-24-2007, 09:39 AM
Thank you for the picspam Achila! I wish that my puppy could draw as well as yours. :k
...because of the heavily "blue" slant (and heavily blue Hollywood) Blue slant :confused:

The fact that Happy feet didn't get a nod, but Dreamgirls got three nods for best song shows you that the Oscars have truely become "back-room politics" instead of best performance oriented. :( :mad:

tgshaw
01-24-2007, 10:27 AM
Blue slant :confused:
Think election night... red states and blue states... 'nuff said?

I'm at work so can only link to pics already online. Here's a hooligan, and a couple of hobbit views from frames just a beat apart:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/32cc7ce0.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/41d7aa30.jpg http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/43620a40.jpg

txtac
01-24-2007, 10:37 AM
TG wrote: Think election night... red states and blue states... 'nuff said?
I was thinking of the old "Blue Laws" that some states still have dealing with immorality, such as no gambling, or buying booze on Sundays. Hollywood has always been a bastian of libertine-ism and immorality, not neccessarily a member of the Democratic political party.

sneaking
01-24-2007, 12:04 PM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f153/sneakingraptor/elijah202blog.jpg

Celebrates new thread with lots of blue dots

whiteling
01-24-2007, 02:48 PM
Celebrates with a certain blue-eyed...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Drawings/Simian_affe_2.jpg

... APE???!

Oops, no, no, no! :eek:
I meant with a blue... surrounded Frodo of course! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/SkiFrodo.jpg

YIPPIE! On to the new thread!


----

Eandme, I meant to say how much I loved your "Frodo lives" post lately! My sentiments exactly. :k

Eandme
01-24-2007, 02:55 PM
Just wanted to join in the picspam with three different moods...

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a90/RAlmaviva/more%20Elijah/eli65.jpg Thoughtful?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a90/RAlmaviva/more%20Elijah/green-street-edinburg-press-049.jpg Confused?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a90/RAlmaviva/more%20Elijah/withViggo.jpg Happy!

Shelbyshire
01-24-2007, 03:45 PM
"It is best to love first what you are fitted to love, I suppose: you must start somewhere and have some roots, and the soil of the Shire is deep."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Home.jpg

*Blue hugs to The Faculty*

Carry on Elijah...

ceefour
01-24-2007, 06:09 PM
A new thread! Hurrah!

C4

Alyon
01-24-2007, 07:05 PM
uhhmmm.....what's going on with the little green boxes??? Did someone hack them? Is it just me seeing the words and not the boxes? :confused:
ETA: Never mind. The weird little messages about sexy posters seem to have disappeared.
But ignoring that for the moment!!

There were wonderful posts at the end of the last thread, and I came to it all a bit late.
Eandme, it was really moving how you described the movies giving you new hope and faith. It happened for me in a different way. I've always been a bit (sometimes a lot "bit", sometimes a little "bit") grassroots political and counterculturally active. One of my specialties was keeping the hope and spirits up among my communities that worked for change. This by trying to make meetings and actions not just about the work, but about the social interaction, and personal richness---trying to make them sustainable. About keeping the love of living going, not just the living to fight the "negatives". But by 2000, I found myself depressed and jaded and cynical. I tried not to be. But I was. Lotr movies changed that. Suddenly I felt the individual's magic and power again. I remember I'd go by myself, over and over again to see Fellowship--and walk out feeling taller and happier. And is the phenonemon dying? Maybe we won't have the same mass interest with everyone on the same page at the same time. But people are still going back to the movies and the books. A younger friend of mine is just now reading the books and she is so moved by them..and I think the story is really helping her with a task at hand in her life. Both resources are will be available to people for a long time. They are going to keep moving lives.

ETA: Don't want to give the impression I've gone back to being a very active activist. It's not what I do with my time anymore, but I'm still involved here and there and much happier about it!

so thanks for all the great posts. I remember you, TxTac, wrote an interesting one on literature, as well. Thank you.

And I'm just not fast with the pictures, folks. So thank you for everyone that is posting photos!!
Take care, all :k
Alyon

txtac
01-25-2007, 07:40 AM
While, I will grant you, the interest in the movie Lord of the Rings may be waning. It has been three years since Return of the King hit the movie theaters after all. The world of Middle Earth has proved to be the little engine that could. Coming out next month is the long anticipated digital version of the multi-player role playing game that totally immerses the person into the world of Middle Earth. The article Building Middle-Earth: ‘The Lord of the Rings’ Online is too long to post, but you can read it here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/24/arts/design/24ring.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Has anyone heard anything new about the TV show that was discussed sometime last year? It is supposed to be set in that 50 year time period sandwiched in between the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings. I am waiting for it to appear for the fall sweeps. :z:

Belive it or not, there is a new review of Happy Feet that just popped up.
They are calling the movie "weird and goofy." You can read the entire article here: http://contactmusic.com/new/film.nsf/reviews/happyfeet

honeyelf
01-26-2007, 12:18 PM
Another shiny new thread. We do go on, don't we? :)

As I did last week, I thought I'd post a little digest of the items that have come up in director Alex de la Iglesia's blog this week, regarding shooting of The Oxford Murders. As before they are from Sr. de la Iglesia's blog (http://blasfemandoenelvrticedeluniverso.blogspot.com/), and translated with the help of babelfish, and the help of the bright, and multinational folks at the elijah_finds LJ community.

With rehearsal behind them, and well satisfied with his casting choices, Sr. de la Iglesia still seemed a bit anxious about the beginning of the actual shoot. Again, he comes up with the most wonderfully colorful colloqualisms! Meanwhile Elijah, being in his twenties still, had a suggestion that might soothe his director's frazzled nerves. Alex, being older and wiser, declined.

There are only a few hours left before filming begins. The minutes fall like stones, in a rain of stones like something out of the Bible. I have tomorrow's shots (that need to be filmed) ready, but I still need to discuss the order of the shots, the cheapest way to film them. Elijah wanted us to go to a Russian (bar) and have a great time, and there was nothing on earth I wanted more than to drink litres and litres of vodka and lose consciousness until reaching that marvelous point when form and content melt into one, that moment when you lose your identity and you become a part of the whole. Stop being and just become, like a smiling cauliflower, in the end. But no. The will to power has imposed itself. I am above my weaknesses, powerful as they may be. I have to work and tomorrow I'm getting up at six o'clock. May God give us luck. Thank you, Mr. Wood..

Sr. de la Iglesia's nerves aside, the first day of shooting seems to have gone even better than expected:

Bond, has happened. We have already rolled a day. I have rolled what had to roll more and, more than shooting, MACHINE-GUNNING the actors. This single one can be done with these INCREDIBLE actors, clear. I do not want to make comparisons, because single few would be saved. Counted with the fingers. The level is highest. Thanks to it we have been able to mark a rate of FRENETIC running. Two takings, three maximum, many to unique taking. Two cameras simultaneous, two sizes, some cameras crossed, - that I said that it was not going to do, tracks, etc. More than twenty, surely. The equipment is good, but equivalent to ours. The electrical ones are very fast. But our equipment of camera has left them agape. Benefit to the maximum. Good planes, flipantes faces. To solve sequences in three hours that have taken to year and means to me to conceive. Eight planes in three hours approx Very hard. Really very hard. Huge, painful, wonderful. Joder, puto cinema again. I thought that it was in low form, but no. I beat and I fit. I take exactly, from the six… eighteen hours currando. Like in the old times. By the way, the Scottish assistant of direction has fallen asleep, three hours to hair, with the second. One has behaved well. Elijah, as he were expected, extraordinary. John superhuman Hurt. Ana Massey does not have comparison. a machine of high technology. Julie Cox, the master. Cruel Extrarodinariamente. good work.

Whether Elijah partied the eve of shooting away with Russian vodka or not, he was his usual prompt, radiant self that first day, and Sr. de la Igesia continues to be very pleased with him. Also to appreciate certain asthetic qualities that TOL brings to the screen:

Of Elijah I cannot speak more because already I am telling you all: he is absolutely superb, a person BORN to film, with an INNATE ability to film, and an amazing experience in years of filming. It is impossible to be more amiable, more giving. The first day he was FIRST on the set. As Kiko says, his face ABSORBS the light. It is brilliant by camera. Friday we celebrate his birthday. What gift should I get him?

As it's 10:17AM here, I suppose Elijah's birthday party is in full swing right now in London. Of course his birthday's not really until Sunday, when I anticipate the celebrations that will break out here! :)

honey!

ylla
01-26-2007, 12:35 PM
Stopping in briefly to thank you all for your warm birthday wishes :k
I spent the evening at a friend's baby shower...what a wonderful way to spend a day , that I quite frankly, wanted to just let pass by quietly..I had a wonderful time...a celebration of new life...how apropros? Lots of laughter and fun :)
I'm doing OK...knowing that grief ,is a process..and that some days will be better than others. Working a lot and just keeping busy.
Wonderful pics you've been posting...my TOL is looking good ;)
can't wait to see what you post in celebration of his 26th birthday!!!
I'm also looking forward to a time I can get back into posting more frequently...the day will get here :D

Once again Thank You all dear Faculity :k

Love Ylla/Candy

txtac
01-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Speaking of birthdays, does anyone want to do anything special on January 28th, Sunday? I was thinking of everyone lifting a glass of the Green Dragon's finest at precisely 9:00pm and toasting/wishing TOL another wonderful 'nother year. I'm open to suggestions. Does anyone want to do anything to celebrate TOL's 26th ?


Want to know what else you can do with action figures? Click here:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?page_id=2548
:lol:

BLOSSOM
01-27-2007, 10:47 AM
A contribution to the new thread:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Elijah/Elijah-profile1.jpg

Ylla - It's lovely to see you here again. (hugs) :k

Honey Isn't it a treat having the 'Oxford Murders' blog to look forward to each evening? :)

txtac - I'll gladly join in the toast for TOL's birthday on Sunday - though I'll have my little tipple at 9.00pm UK time. (hic!)

Wispy_Wistaria
01-27-2007, 11:51 AM
Hi everyone!
I see a new thread has started *yay* :)
And I see a lot of beauuuutiful piccies :eek:
Head's starting to get giddy :D
so here's a little add of eyecandy :

this:
http://handson.provocateuse.com/images/photos/elijah_wood_02.jpg

and this :p
http://delirium.lejournal.free.fr/Elijah_Wood4.jpg


See ya *tomorrow* ;)

Shelbyshire
01-27-2007, 09:09 PM
BLOSSOM said...txtac - I'll gladly join in the toast for TOL's birthday on Sunday - though I'll have my little tipple at 9.00pm UK time. (hic!) :) Count me in too...9 PM Eastern Standard Time!

honeyelf
01-28-2007, 01:54 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but there are moments when I'm more than a bit conflicted about my fondness for a certain actor. Part of me says I ought to know better. Loudly. And with frequency. I was never the fannish type before, and yet I find myself celebrating the birthday of Elijah Wood for the fourth year in a row, and with no end in sight! So I thought I'd try something a little different to celebrate this year.

I give you:

26* Reasons to be a "Vintage" Fan-Girl/Guy

*One for every year!

1. We still remember when this was in fashion, though somehow we don’t remember the boys looking quite that good!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/147180263_ee0f67240c_o.jpg

2. At the same time he makes sideburns look so good, that we’ve forgotten most of the little we remember of the seventies!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/371599518_5ae90b035b_o.jpg

3. He's even made some of us rethink the fauxhawk!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/50/147175366_3e6dc72a9f_o.jpg

4. A mythical creature known as the Gentleman once roamed the earth; it’s good to see he’s not extinct


5. We’ve seen a lot of pretty people; when one of them completely gob-smacks us with how beautiful he is we know he’s something extraordinary.


6. We may or may not have kids of our own, but it’s still sweet to hear a man talk about his mother that way.


7. Along with the whole LoTR phenomenon, he’s been the ‘carrot’ many of us Boomers needed to step out into the wide weird wold of the Internet. Learning new things helps stave off Alzheimer's!


8. If we want to see one of his movies over and over and over… we can!


9. We don’t have to get our parents’ permission to see the R rated ones!


10. If we want to buy the DVDs we have our own credit cards!


11. We have our own musical tastes, but it’s fun to have someone in the know that can point us to the new stuff we wouldn’t necessarily find on our own. (Someone besides Bob Boilen that is!)


12. We know that half of this “new” music is just a redo of the “old” stuff, but we’re still young enough to appreciate the fresh take.


13. See number 11; we know what we really like, and don’t just blindly follow along.

14. Don’t know about you, but I’ve never before seen anyone in all my years who just glows like that!


15. His modesty and humility are charming.


16. He’s punctual, professional and polite in an era when bratty actors and their bad behavior regularly make the headlines.


17. Any girl of any age can’t help but love all those velvet jackets!


18. He’s good for the cardiovascular system. ;-)


19. He does crossword puzzles too, and for the same reason we do: to keep “sharp.” :k


20. He’s very articulate and bright, with a large vocabulary, and he uses words like “germane” correctly.


21. Our hearing, while not actually “going” is starting to make a list and has the suitcases out of the closet. His perfect diction is a gift in a cinematic world crowded with mumbling thespians.


22. Some of his most expressive moments on film are completely without dialog. By now we have calluses on certain corners of our hearts; he is perfectly capable of sending cascades of feeling into those corners with the mearest shift of focus, or lift of eyebrow.


23. Our significant others are mature enough not to feel threatened by the attention we give our to “hobby actor’s” career and films.


24. According to psychologist David Weeks eccentric people live “happier, healthier, and longer” lives than conformists. Just mention your Elwoodian fascination to one of your peers, and see if they don’t give you a look that plainly says you’re a bit eccentric.


25. How can you not love a guy who's seen as much of the world as he has, and yet can still blush like that?


26. His passion for life is both contagious and addictive.

:k :k :k Happy 26th Birthday, ELIJAH JORDAN WOOD! :k :k :k

honey!!!

whiteling
01-28-2007, 04:52 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/Bodleian_Oxford_Elijah.jpg

At the entrance to "the Bod", the time-honoured Bodleian Library (main research library of the University of Oxford), Elijah Wood, from this day on 26, awaits the approximately 2500 extras ;) from Khazad-dum for his glittering birthday party.

A very HAPPY BIRTHDAY, dear Elijah!! :)
Thank you for everything.


~~~~~~~~~~

Honey, I love your list! :k

Achila
01-28-2007, 07:28 AM
All dressed up....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/2315877.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/2018005.jpg

or all dressed down...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/762524_01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/newbagend.jpg

Happy Birthday to our favorite guy! :k

Wispy_Wistaria
01-28-2007, 07:45 AM
Big Hugs to the BirthdayBoy !!!! Keep on being your sweet twenty six self! :k

For me the ellijahfandom all started with "fro" you know ;)
So here's my birthdaycard:
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7448/5583tp.jpg

Bohemian
01-28-2007, 10:38 AM
Happy birthday, Elijah! May you have many more!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a94/indiesnob/elwood134.jpg

BLOSSOM
01-28-2007, 10:43 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/HBew.jpg

Lovely birthday pics, everyone.

Honey - - great list!

Wispy - That is one of my all time favourite Frodo pics!

I hope TOL is enjoying his special day here in the UK.

ceefour
01-28-2007, 04:13 PM
Happy Birthday!

C4

Alyon
01-28-2007, 07:31 PM
Pictures pictures, beautiful pictures!!! :k
And a fantastic list, Honey!!!!! :k

Happy Birthday, Elijah. Beautiful soul inside some beautiful eyes....

txtac
01-28-2007, 09:00 PM
Thru the teeth and over the gums, look out Elijah- here it comes !

Toast #2. Here's to wishing you a 'udder wonderful year !

Toast #3. Up the Hobbit!

Toast #4. *Hic* Too many toasts.. . Anyone got any bacon and eggs?

BunnieBugs
01-28-2007, 09:16 PM
Happy Birthday, Elijah!

Long may you shine!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah%202/Elijah33_980.jpg

Shelbyshire
01-28-2007, 09:35 PM
Happy Birthday, Elijah!
Earlier in the day I posted here but deleted it because it wasn't a "happy" birthday post but one that showed different characters of Elijah with a more angsty theme. Maybe it's just my current mood and I couldn't come up with anything else so I'll just post my most favorite Elijah photo and leave it at that. I hope you like it too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/OldFavorite-1.jpg

Geez...it doesn't even look much like him anymore, does it. He is wearing the CTJ though. Where has time gone?

Eandme
01-29-2007, 05:02 AM
Honeyelf, that list was fab! I especially loved this line:

How can you not love a guy who's seen as much of the world as he has, and yet can still blush like that?

Aww, my poor calloused heart...

Guys, I tell you what, I'm hungover! :cool: I had a wonderful time celebrating Elijah's birthday last night...I came up with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vJzhSpEQDY

But hey...what about the Day After -brunch? Put your shades on and get out here! ;)

Skater girl
01-29-2007, 07:15 AM
That is so lovely Eandme. I hope someone, somewhere brings it to Elijah's attention, as he really ought to see it. I'm sure he'd love it.

BunnieBugs
01-29-2007, 10:54 AM
Want to ask Elijah a question? (http://news.q4music.com/2007/01/cash_for_questions_elijah_wood.html)

The former child star / Hobbit / indie film god will be swinging his legs over the red plush arms of the Q Cash For Questions chair any day now which means it's time for your questions. Is he as squeaky clean as he seems? Who's he signed to his record label? Who was tougher to work with in Flipper, Paul Hogan or the dolphin? Will he show us his LOTR tattoo if we ask nicely? And why did most of his post-LOTR roles involve him wearing ridiculous glasses?

Whatever you've always wanted to ask him, tell us and we'll pass it on. Send your questions to cashforquestions@q4music.com and be sure to include your name and address and mark your emails "Elijah Wood".

"Indie film god." :cool: Gotta love that.

I admit that I asked four questions, and only one had to do with his label. "Q" being a music magazine, that may not have been the wisest choice, but we'll see. :)

sneaking
01-29-2007, 04:27 PM
Going back to the Oxford Murders casting, I think I was exactly, 100% wrong ( :lol: ). Nothing new there. They've done the Miss Eagleton stuff and then it was Leanor Watling's first day right at the end of that (after a key scene was mentioned in earlier days) so really she can't be playing Beth (Miss Eagleton's niece) as she would have to be there. Plus, if they were doing the magic show today, with Leonor, then she really has to be Lorna. And that means Julie Cox is Beth. So, I was lead astray by Julie Cox having more Lorna-in-the-book colour hair (closer anyway) and Leonor's singing. I thought maybe they were doing that instead of Beth being a cellist or whatever.

My gut reaction is that the photos of Elijah and Julie Cox looked good. They looked like a cute, plausible couple. We've only had one picture of Leonor but I didn't get the same vibe. I suppose I need to give them a chance and wait to see what a two shot of just Elijah and Leonor looks like.

Or perhaps I've got it entirely wrong again and I should stop trying to guess and wait and see which woman turns up in a nurse's outfit in a picture.

Shelbyshire
01-29-2007, 10:08 PM
Hi! For those who do not frequent LJ, these pics are from the Elijah community there. There are 29 altogether and in some he is...smoking. Others are the same thing taken moments apart. I removed the watermarks, very easy to do, to post them here. Or, should I have left them on? If anyone sees the internet police headed my way, please let me know. If not, enjoy!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/img_preCAZDZ8EM-254-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/img_preCAQ92T89-283-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/img_preCA3LJ318-279-1.jpg

Achila
01-30-2007, 07:01 AM
That first one, especially, looks a lot like the shots from the filming of Hooligans! Even down to the type of clothes he's wearing. In fact, isn't there one where he's standing in front of a wrought iron gate too? Thanks for sharing them, Shelbyshire!

Shelbyshire
01-30-2007, 08:28 AM
A couple more...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/img_preCAGDV6A0-284.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/img_preCA8FFPGA-270.jpg

I'm not sure if this is the GSH pic you were thinking of...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/the-yank-behind-028.jpg

:) :) :)

Achila
01-30-2007, 08:31 AM
Yep! And there were several others taken in that spot, that showed that fence. How funny! You know, I don't know what the insistence is on piling on layers of clothing on him -- perhaps to make him look bigger?

ceefour
01-30-2007, 08:39 AM
Thanks for posting these, Shelbyshire. :k

C4

txtac
01-30-2007, 09:08 AM
If anyone is interested in the real 'Hobbit' skeletal remains that they found, there is some new info out. The article is here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070129/sc_livescience/hobbitdeclaredanewspeciesasdebatecontinues

Mariole
01-30-2007, 11:03 AM
*tackles the Internet police to protect Shelbyshire* Thanks, SS! it's good to see new pictures of the lad. Although I'm going to have to stop calling him that; he looks very grown up these days. :)

"They're not like humans, they're not like anything." :eek: Really cool stuff, txtac. Yes, I'm quite interested in this. Thanks for the update!

txtac
01-30-2007, 01:46 PM
Sneaking- Thanks for the update. Please keep us up to date. :)

Shelbyshire- Thank you for the current pics. :k Keep 'em commin' :z:

Mariole- Have you checked out the links at the bottom of the article? There are four, or five related, or earlier articles with pictures that really help build the developing story of "the Hobbit."

Achila wrote: I don't know what the insistence is on piling on layers of clothing on him -- perhaps to make him look bigger?
Elijah's really never had much muscle mass, or body fat. He's trimmed off what little body fat he's had and what's worse, some muscle mass to look the part for the Iggy Pop biopic. When you look at the sideways picture of Elijah and Robin Williams standing front to back that came out earlier, Elijah was looking really skeletal. He looks a tad better with these current pics that Shelbyshire posted, but still too skinney even for him. I do not think that he is putting on the extra coat to look bigger, just warmer. Elijah has always been a bit on the chilly side. Less muscle mass means less energy burned which equates to less heat being generated. With more muscle mass, it takes more energy to move and as a byproduct of more energy being produced- more heat is created which keeps the body warmer. That extra blue jacket is to keep him warmer in between shots.

sneaking
01-30-2007, 02:01 PM
Sneaking- Thanks for the update. Please keep us up to date. :)

Shelbyshire- Thank you for the current pics. :k Keep 'em commin' :z:

Mariole- Have you checked out the links at the bottom of the article? There are four, or five related, or earlier articles with pictures that really help build the developing story of "the Hobbit."

I've found the whole hobbit thing fascinating.

Did you see the science articles about the galaxies that they've found which are smaller than "dwarf" galaxies? They've been calling them hobbit galaxies...

http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2007/109/1

http://www.newscientist.com/blog/space/2007/01/universe-full-of-hobbits.html

txtac
01-30-2007, 02:08 PM
Sneaking wrote: ...They've been calling them hobbit galaxies...
...and just the other day we were talking about the interest in LOTR waning. ;) :lol:

Prim
01-30-2007, 04:27 PM
Mariole- I've sent you a rather rambling email so check your mail before you disappear into the skies. Have a great time in NZ! :)


On topic: Happy Feet was great. It got good reviews here and stayed for a good run in the theatres too. My kids love it so I guess we'll be adding it to our dvd collection once it comes out. Its amazing how strongly EW's personality and quirks seem to shine out of Mumble. The animators must have watched him almost as attentively as the Faculty!!! (I was going to say obsessively, but we aren't obssessive... just highly motivated. ;) )

Shelbyshire
01-30-2007, 06:09 PM
Keep 'em commin' Okay. :) I looked back through the last few pages of this thread and Hugs Haven and these are the
only pictures not yet posted here. Again, they're from the Elijah community at LJ.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Elijah%20Wood/DSC00026.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Elijah%20Wood/alex_parrot.jpg

This LOTR picture was also recently posted. It's an old one but it seems no one has seen it in color.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Elijah%20Wood/HobbitsinHelicopters.jpg

And hot off the press:

"The Oxford Murders" Release Dates

Oxford Murders (2007) U.S. Distributor:
Not available at this time

Oxford Murders (2007) U.K. Distributor:
Not available at this time

U.S. Cinema Release Date:
14th Dec 2007

U.K. Cinema Release Date:
23rd Nov 2007

Skater girl
01-31-2007, 01:36 AM
[ I do not think that he is putting on the extra coat to look bigger, just warmer. Elijah has always been a bit on the chilly side. Less muscle mass means less energy burned which equates to less heat being generated. With more muscle mass, it takes more energy to move and as a byproduct of more energy being produced- more heat is created which keeps the body warmer. That extra blue jacket is to keep him warmer in between shots.

It was bitterly cold here in the UK last week, and either side of that is had been that really damp cold that that even 4 layers can't keep out when you are stood around for so long filming. Isn't his character from a South American country where it would be warm? Perhaps the layers are also to emphasise that fact.

Shelbyshire
01-31-2007, 07:14 AM
From www.msnbc.com and their Superbowl coverage. Scroll down to Superbowl XLI, click on Complete Coverage, then scroll down to Business of Superbowl. At least, Elijah's name is not mentioned in the ad. How can you not recognize him, though. Well...at least we would! ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/070124_QuayleLays_hmed_11a_hmedium.jpgBelow are the 10 worst Super Bowl commercials of all time, followed by the reasons that they crashed and burned, and a summary of any chaos that followed. Budweiser has become reliable at turning out minor controversies, but the Top 4 are in a league of their own.

10. Frito-Lay — Dan Quayle ad (1993): For the national launch of Wavy Lays potato chips, much-ridiculed former Vice-President Quayle makes a cameo, with a joke about his inability to spell “potato.”

What failed: Think back to 1993. Other than Heidi Fleiss and possibly Lorena Bobbitt, was there a worse person to associate with your new product than Dan Quayle?

The fallout: Despite some negative reviews, the Quayle ad was followed by more commercials featuring unsuccessful politicians and other losers, including a Chevy Chase ad for Doritos (right after his talk show disaster), Ann Richards and Mario Cuomo for Lays — and Bob Dole for just about everything.

Mariole
01-31-2007, 09:09 AM
Thank you, Prim! I'm glad you warned me; the message got stuck in the spam filter. All's well. Here's a big hug and :k (and happy bounces)!!! :D

The animators must have watched him almost as attentively as the Faculty!!! (I was going to say obsessively, but we aren't obssessive... just highly motivated. ;)
Well put, Prim. I can say for myself that often I get highly, highly motivated. It just means all is well with the world. :p

I wonder if that Quayle commercial made the list because all the fans watching Elijah brought it back into mind?

Did you see the science articles about the galaxies that they've found which are smaller than "dwarf" galaxies? They've been calling them hobbit galaxies...
Sneaking, you made my day. Lovely. :)

Thanks for all the info and help, everyone! I'm off to Mordor tomorrow. I hope I will be able to stand the beauty along the way. See you in 3 weeks!

txtac
01-31-2007, 10:51 AM
Mariole wrote: I'm off to Mordor tomorrow.
Bye Mariole. *waves bye-bye* Have fun and don't pick up any strange Orcs hitch-hiking along the way. :lol: Remember: Take only photographs and leave only footprints... :k

This just popped up over on TORn. Thought that it is timely:
Trilogy Screening in Wellington

1/31/07, 4:50 pm EST - Xoanon

The Embassy Theatre in Wellington has sent out their latest newsletter. The big news is that they will be screening all three LOTR films this February as part of their summer series (North America's winter). From the newsletter: Peter Jackson's Academy Award winning films should only be seen in the luxury of our leather armchairs and on our giant screen.

LORD OF THE RINGS: The Fellowship of the Ring - Febuary 4th and 25th
LORD OF THE RINGS: The Two Towers - Febuary 11th
LORD OF THE RINGS: The Return of the King - Febuary 18th

What better way for Mariole to enjoy New Zealand than to return to LOTR in the land that gave it wrought. Who knows, P.J. might even pop in to say hi!

Wispy_Wistaria
01-31-2007, 12:23 PM
Lovely "Oxford Murder" pics Shelbyshire :cool:
Looks like he's doin a great job :)
Oh my... :eek: and the Lotr pic with them in the heli :p
I hadn't seen it before soo thx for posting!!!

Btw I'm off to see "Bobby" Saturday
I know Elijah is only goin to play a little scene in it. But it's well worth I guess :p And like an film magazine said: "Melancholia for all those who remembered Kennedy (the generation of my parents) and a perfect introduction for the new generation" It's good to have a little history knowledge too ey ;)

See ya

txtac
02-01-2007, 02:20 PM
First posting in February. Yeah ! We're on a roll here. :lol:

In today's newspaper weekend flyer there is an article "Alfonso Cuaron Shines Despite Oscar Snub." The part that applies to Elijah fans is: ... Cuaron has more chances to win his Oscar. He joined respected filmmakers such as Alexander Payne and Ethan and Joel Coen to direct a segment for the long awaited "Paris je 'taime," which finally opens in the United States in May and it will be exciting to see what the talented director does in the future.

tgshaw
02-02-2007, 08:56 AM
First posting in February. Yeah ! We're on a roll here. :lol:
...and the first one on page 3 of the "new" thread - at least on my settings.

..."Paris je 'taime," which finally opens in the United States in May
Does that mean that any shot it would have at an Oscar (I'm guessing that best foreign language film would be the only one possible) would be for 2007, even though it opened other places in 2006?

------

Not the first time I've said this, but with Wellington coming up in conversation again: There's a theater in Atlanta that shows nothing but Gone with the Wind. (At least there was several years ago, when I heard about it.) GwtW over... and over... and over... Evidently it's been enough of a tourist attraction for those who want to see the movie in Atlanta to keep it going. With 3 movies about the length of GwtW, and two versions of each, a theater in Wellington (not necessarily the big theater) should be able to keep a rotation going. How about kicking it off after the round of 10th anniversary showings which will certainly happen all over the world? That gives them a few years to plan. Link it up with the permanent exhibit at Te Papa [spelling? - the museum, anyway].

txtac
02-02-2007, 10:24 AM
TG wrote: Does that mean that any shot it would have at an Oscar (I'm guessing that best foreign language film would be the only one possible) would be for 2007, even though it opened other places in 2006?
Well, the Oscars noms for 2006 are already out and the awards are this coming Monday night February 5th. I do not see Paris Je T'aime in the nominations, so there is no chance of the movie getting an award in 2006.
Since the Academy and the Oscar Awards are an American invention and the movie is not scheduled to play in the United States until May 2007, the only way that the movie would be considered for an American award would be in the 2007 award season evan though the movie was released in 2006. Does that make any sense?

... Evidently it's been enough of a tourist attraction for those who want to see the movie in Atlanta to keep it going. With 3 movies about the length of GwtW, and two versions of each, a theater in Wellington (not necessarily the big theater) should be able to keep a rotation going.
New Zealand certainly had an upswing in tourism after the movies came out. But as was mentioned earlier, interest is waning and so is the tourism. At this point, I do not know whether it would be economically feasible to build a new theater dedicated to solely playing the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. If they built an LOTR Theme Park, or amusement park, then it would make sense to have a small theater built in the park that would continuously show the LOTR trilogy. It is still a money thing. People's interests vs. making a continual profit. Peoples interest in LOTR is waning, tourism for LOTR is declining. It would take another year or more to build an LOTR Theme Park. I can not see how it would be profitable now, or later. :(


More news over on TORn:
News for Feb. 01, 2007

SHOP: Frodo and Gollum - The Crack of Doom Diorama

2/01/07, 9:44 pm EST - Celeborn

We've waited a week, and the revelation is here at last! The first piece in Sideshow Collectibles new Lord of the Rings diorama line is 'Frodo and Gollum - The Crack of Doom.' They've posted an impressive teaser using the voice over from FOTR. Check it out! http://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?page_id=2567

honeyelf
02-02-2007, 04:38 PM
Hubby and I watched one of Alex de la Iglesia's earlier films, Common Wealth. He does black comedy very well, and I'm now hopeful that The Oxford Murders will also be made in this comedic vein. But I haven't read the book, and I don't want to be 'spoiled', so please, don't anybody tell me! I wonder if a certain black humor is not what Alex alluded to this week, when he said:

...today I filmed with Alex Cox, and that's the same as filming without actors [cast], so as to say: filming just with the crew. Alex [Cox] is perfect: incredibly friendly, cordial, nice and incredibly respectful. You have to differentiate attitude from contents, and Alex knows this very well. Work must never be taken like a frivolity, and find the edge [frontier] between a relaxed-situation and not-taking-the-job-seriously is difficult.

However, with Mr. Cox or Elijah this never happens [not-taking-the-job-seriously situation]. Just yesterday we were laughing while we were filming a shoot in which Mr. Wood showed an amazing concentration. I don't like joking around with the jokes –humour is something really serious. You have to know how to distinguee between shades and not confuse attitudes. Those who don't understand this, understand nothing.

Of course Sr. de la Iglesia may also be referring to reports that the set is besieged by cheering fans. Everytime Elijah steps out of his trailer he is met with screaming hordes of admirers according to some reports.

***

Meanwhile, I recieved my copy of New Magnetic Wonder - the first CD on the Simian label. As predicted, its a huge hit with my geeky husband, a big big hit for a man who gets very emotional about the music he loves. My husband, I mean! ;) He's hooked. I like it very much too. I half-mockingly suggested that he post a "thank you" at the Simian myspace page, to which he replied "I know exactly what I'll say!" Well done, Mr. Wood! May this be the beginning of big things for you and the music you believe in and love!

Good news about Paris Je'taime! I look forward to seeing it, as much to see Paris again as for Elijah's small part in it.

honey!

Mechtild
02-02-2007, 06:29 PM
Honey, your husband sounds like your soul mate - or else a really good sport. ;)

~ M


(Yep, I'm back in town, answering mail and trying to catch up.)

honeyelf
02-03-2007, 02:31 AM
Mech, he's both actually, but mostly the former. :)

h!

txtac
02-03-2007, 09:14 AM
Found this blog on Elijah_Finds. Thought that our Faculty-ites in England might be interested in it... ;)


...you can also apply for a scene to be filmed in March in Oxford (it is not known whether Elijah will be present or not, but as he plays an important role in the film, I guess he will)

Extras for Film in Oxford wanted (and Choir & orchestra)

Mad Dog Casting are casting the extras for the new feature film 'Oxford Murders'

Shooting in March, in Oxford.

Specifically looking for professional choir & orchestra but also unusual, quirky faces/characters; think Einstein; big crazy hair, characterful faces to be paid extras in forthcoming feature film.

£90 for 12 hour day (minus 15% commission)

Filming in Oxford. No travel/accomadation supplied so ONLY apply if from this area

Only over 16 years

Please submit good clear photo to apply.

Please apply now to take part or for more information.

Payment details: £90 per day (minus 15% commission)

Created: 1 Feb 2007
Applications accepted until: 28 Feb 2007
Application criteria: Males & Females aged 16 to 99 from UK

Mechtild
02-04-2007, 09:37 PM
Application criteria: Males & Females aged 16 to 99 from UK
I fit the age qualification. I wonder if they check your passport to see if you're from the U.K.? ;)

~ M

BunnieBugs
02-05-2007, 02:07 PM
Of course Sr. de la Iglesia may also be referring to reports that the set is besieged by cheering fans. Everytime Elijah steps out of his trailer he is met with screaming hordes of admirers according to some reports.
Really? :eek: I had not heard that. Poor Elijah! Though, I suspect he handles it all with aplomb, that would have to get a bit taxing after awhile.

I fit the age qualification. I wonder if they check your passport to see if you're from the U.K.? Mech, I'm guessing that they just don't want to accept extras from other countries, as they might not actually be in the UK when needed. Or something. I don't really know, of course, but I can't imagine that they'd turn anyone away at the door simply because they aren't a citizen of the UK!

Mechtild
02-05-2007, 02:13 PM
Well, there's no chance of my going to England, anyway, Bunnie. :cool: But if I were visiting there, I sure would want to do it!

~ M

sneaking
02-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Really? :eek: I had not heard that. Poor Elijah! Though, I suspect he handles it all with aplomb, that would have to get a bit taxing after awhile.

Mech, I'm guessing that they just don't want to accept extras from other countries, as they might not actually be in the UK when needed. Or something. I don't really know, of course, but I can't imagine that they'd turn anyone away at the door simply because they aren't a citizen of the UK!

It might be a work permit/visa type thing. You'd probably be OK if you were living and working in the UK; coming in as a tourist, not so much. Also, they probably want to know that everybody can easily obey english commands (not that that would be an issue for mechtild).

Mechtild
02-05-2007, 04:01 PM
I'm sure that's it, Sneaking, now that you mention it. As a visitor, a tourist, I would not be permitted to take a job in the U.K. That would include working as an extra, which is a paid position, even if I would be doing it for film-fannish reasons. :)

~ M

txtac
02-05-2007, 07:00 PM
Mech- You missed this part: Filming in Oxford. No travel/accomadation supplied so ONLY apply if from this area
It was posted right under the 90 pounds per 12 hour day bit.

Mechtild also wrote:
As a visitor, a tourist, I would not be permitted to take a job in the U.K. That would include working as an extra, which is a paid position
You could always volunteer to be an "unpaid" extra! :z: No money = technically not 'working.' I do not think that you would need a work permit to volunteer to do anything. What film producer would turn down free work?
That happens a lot down here especially on low budget films. :( They can not afford to pay you anyway, so that's why they are calling for volunteers. A lot of people just want some face time in front of the camera, or just to be able to say that they were in "X" movie. ;)

Eandme
02-06-2007, 03:41 AM
Hey guys! There's severeal of us who are going to be extras in the Oxford Murders who aren't UK citizens, so there's no general ban on that, and there's been no mention of needing a work permit. I guess that might apply to non-EU citizens. But I do however think that for the choir and orchestra scenes they will want people who are perhaps able to come to rehearsals in Oxford, or they will want to shoot the scenes over a period of days. If someone was really dying to do this, and was willing to pay for their own transport and accommodation, I believe it would be possible to persuade the casting agency to take them on.

Anyway - I am wondering what you guys imagine will be the "essence of Martin" in the Oxford Murders.
(Trying to keep this spoiler free! But it's difficult. Okay, you've been warned...)
I always thought Elijah had that perfectly visible spark of intelligence in his eyes, like you can see he is bright. I hope he knows this and will put it to good use to give life to this promising Maths student. I am curious too about how Elijah will handle the scenes with "Lorna". It has been a while since he filmed a love/sex scene, and then it was with Franka Potenete, his gf at the time. I think it is important to his career not to shy away from it, but I wonder if he will ever feel quite at ease with it and if that might show somehow. I didn't like the book too much, but there were certain aspects of Martin that intrigued me, a certain sadness and a compassionate streak in him that might come out very well in the movie. I am actaully hoping the movie will be better than the book!

txtac
02-06-2007, 06:20 PM
Eandme- Pop over to the Harem. I posted a synopsis of Alex's daily blog about what happened during filming that day. :) The original Spainish version and translation is over on Elijah_Finds. ;)

Mechtild
02-06-2007, 09:35 PM
Eandme, in Elijah_finds there was another notice copied and pasted, advertising for extras. It was a more general call (bring your friends and relatives - that sort of thing) with a less generous pay package - something like 20 pounds and a boxed lunch. As for accepting volunteers, I suppose they might. But if there are hoardes of screaming fans outside EW's trailer, I doubt they'd be keen to take volunteers. More likely they'd be suspicious of volunteers, worrying they might be the sorts of mad fans who'd run up and accost him during a take. ;)

I really am looking forward to hearing from all you Faculty-ites who are going to serve as extras; then we shall know all! :)

~ M

Shelbyshire
02-06-2007, 11:16 PM
Since I'm still up and it's past midnight, I couldn't help but notice there's a birthday today. Of course, we do love birthdays here at The Faculty Lounge.

Here's a new, non-spoilerish picture from The Oxford Murders.

Happy Birthday, Alyon!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/20070206OxfordMurders75.jpg

Mechtild
02-06-2007, 11:44 PM
What's this????

It's Alyon's birthday? Thanks for the heads-up, Shelbyshire!!! :lol:


Happy Birthday, Alyon!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Elijah%20Wood/MTV11-14-06byScottGries-crop.jpg


See? EW's pushing the chair into the place of honour, just for you. He looks pretty excited about it.


~ Mechtild

;)

ceefour
02-07-2007, 07:48 AM
Happy Birthday, Alyon!

C4

Achila
02-07-2007, 08:08 AM
Happy Birthday, Alyon! Here's a little something for you!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/lordpre12.jpg

txtac
02-07-2007, 08:53 AM
Found this over on TORn. Thought that it was apprapo given our earlier discussion on the waning of LOTR...

World of books- The way to hang on to a heroic past
By A N Wilson

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=IQKJSFEKIDV01QFIQMFCFFOAVCBQYIV0?xml=/opinion/2007/02/05/do0505.xml&posted=true&_requestid=163775

It is strange to be reminded, by a recent geological history of Rome, that the volcanic catastrophes which created the seven eternal hills occurred between two million and 500,000 years ago. It reminds us of how recent were the arrival of Aeneas or the foundation of the city in 753 BC.

That there was an old world that has now passed away, a heroic world, snatches of which we hear only in half-comprehended song, is an ever-present awareness in the works of J.R.R. Tolkien. He is the only modern writer of what might be termed fantasy-literature who conveys this sense – which we find in Virgil and is also present in the Beowulf poet — of a heroic past that is slipping out of memory.

As a Germanic philologist, he expounded the old Icelandic Eddaic verses that recount the doings and death, for example, of Atli or Attila the Hun: he died in 453, was celebrated in song for 500 years, and immortalised in Atlakvitha some time before the Viking settlement of Iceland in 985. Or those mythic beings, the dwarves, preserved in the Voluspa, a mythology of the North, perhaps written down in the 11th century, but keeping alive much older memories of, among others, "Veigr, Gandalfr, Vindalfr, Thrainn…" – that is, the Potion-elf and the Sprite-elf…

Tolkien soaked up all this stuff through his imaginative pores, just as he made it his pastime to learn the older languages of northern Europe — Irish, Welsh, Norse, Old English, Gothic. The fragmentary nature of these language survivals, especially Gothic, is itself something that, if meditated on intelligently, could only produce a Tolkienian world perspective. You feel all the time that something has been lost — it has been lost partly through the passage of time, partly through human malice and wickedness. Language and poetry alone keep its half-memory echoing.

In time, Tolkien came to invent languages and mythologies, and did so until middle age without forming the whole thing into an entire narrative of the earlier ages of the world; there were many stories and myths kept in desk drawers but no one big Aeneid. Then came The Hobbit, a very simple quest story that incorporates some of the Eddaic thoughts about elves and dwarves. Gandalf, the dwarfish name meaning Sprite-elf, turns up as a wizard. The lost ring that can make the little Hobbit invisible is little more than a magic talisman in this book. But in the figure of Beorn the Bee-man we find heroic echoes, both of Beowulf and of the northern berserks.

In The Lord of the Rings, however, composed largely during the Second World War, we find a narrative of immense seriousness. All the surviving civilisations, of Gondor the city of men, and of the more primitive, "heroic" kingdom of Theoden, with its Heorot-like mead-hall, as well as the worlds of those elves who still survive from an earlier age and of the dogged dwarves, is threatened by the need for the Dark Lord of Mordor to hold the Ring of Power that Bilbo Baggins had heedlessly purloined in the earlier story.

When the Wagner bug bit me, 10 to 15 years ago, I demoted Tolkien in my mind and felt that here was a neutered, ersatz Ring-cycle, devoid of all the things that make Wagner interesting — namely sex and religion. But although it is true that Tolkien does not write about the things that obsessed Richard Wagner, his myth is no less overwhelming.

Is it an allegory of the Second World War? Of course he denied it, for to read it in this way would be to invite all sorts of silly comparisons between the ring and the atomic bomb that do not really bear close analysis.

But Tolkien's experience of war obviously adds gravitas to his story. Just as his experience of soldiering in the trenches surely contributes to the Ringbearer and friends trudging on, cold and hungry, through dark and bad weather, so, too, the experience of the Second World War, in which the homely little race of Captain Mainwarings stood out alone in 1940 against the forces of darkness, surely quickens the appeal of Frodo and Sam Gamgee's remarkable quest.

But The Lord of the Rings itself, great work of art as it is, is devoid of its author's "personality". It is not pastiche; it is heroic literature in its own right, down to the end when, unable to find peace in his old home, Frodo takes off, a tragic parting of friends, to the Grey Havens.


Happy Birthday Alyon

BunnieBugs
02-07-2007, 09:20 AM
Happy Birthday, Alyon!


Just wanted to drop a link to a downloadable print interview with Elijah regarding Simian Records (I haven't even managed the time to read it, yet!):

Filter Magazine supplement (http://www.filter-mag.com/index.php?c=gmg) This quarter-sized supplement is only available in a few places, but it is also available as a .pdf file download from this page. There is a one-page interview and a new-ish pic. :)

tgshaw
02-07-2007, 10:40 AM
Happy Birthday, Alyon!

_____________________

on txtac's post:

Not quite sure what this means :confused: :
But The Lord of the Rings itself, great work of art as it is, is devoid of its author's "personality".

What I think is probably Tolkien's best statement about LotR as allegory:
You can make the Ring into an allegory of our own time, if you like: an allegory of the inevitable fate that waits for all attempts to defeat evil power by power. But that is only because all power magical or mechanical does always so work.
In the Foreword to the Second Edition he lambasts people who call the book an allegory of WWII, but that's because they're limiting it to WWII, and not allowing it to apply to "all attempts to defeat evil power by power." As he points out there, it wasn't any easier being caught as a young man in WWI than it was in WWII.

txtac
02-07-2007, 10:45 AM
Thank you for the heads-up Bunnie. I can keep an eye out on our local Landmark theater and see when this new FILTER Good Music Guide comes in. As always, for those Faculty members who do not have a Landmark Theater near you, I can mail you a copy if you want one. Let me know... ;)
At least now we know that Elijah's next music project will be Eloise and the
Savoir Faire!


TG- IF I remember correctly, Tolkien didn't like allegory in anything. It left the authors work open to other interpretations that the author did not want, nor intend. His writings of Middle Earth was in the challenge from the Ink Blots that no one could write an epic story anymore. Joseph Campbell evan called it a classic hero tale. The statement that Tolkien did not put his 'personality' into the story is correct. He was not trying to make a social, or political statement with his story a la Voltair. As an English professor who could live in the third person, he became simply the tale teller, not the someone in the tale whom you see the tale unfolding through their interpretations of events.

LOTR was written as the "classic" and "epic" hero tale that was said could not be written anymore. It's only allegory is light/good battles dark/evil and overcomes evil through hardship and loss. Your classic hero tale written in epic proportions. Anything else, any other allegory read into it is a function of someone else in another time and place reading something else into the story to alleviate their own here and now.

Wispy_Wistaria
02-07-2007, 12:37 PM
Hi people, I know most of you have already seen it and discussed it. :rolleyes: So if you don’t mind a little something about Bobby which I saw a few days ago.

“A catching movie with a message”, it was really good, far better than I expected.One of the main reasons I went to see the film was Elijah of course. But none can blame me for that. I was afraid the political item wouldn’t interest me that much but on the other hand it’s good to know about one of the most important persons/ events of the 20th century.
My father was 19 in 1968. I’m almost 20 so time to expand my point of view.
I liked the concept of seeing the story through different, average people’s eyes, the short characters shots, the hotel atmosphere; it all got you in a specific mood.
I loved the Diane/William scenes, I thought I’d see less of them, but I was quite surprised.Their conversations and the kiss really hit the soft spot.*melts*The other characters came out well; I had to laugh with the LSD lads, I felt sympathy for the Mexican brothers. I was never bored. The end came like a shock, you knew RFK was going to be shot, but still… you didn’t see it coming straight away.
A real heartbreaker was seeing William lying there, badly hurt on the kitchen floor *sobs* :( .The desperation on the peoples faces.That image really stays with you. When I came home I listened to a song of oldplay:
“Everything’s not lost” And so it is, there’s hope and peace left, though it’s sometimes hard to find.

Here in Belgium it has been snowing, finally. It took a while for winter to arrive.The temperature was far too soft and the weather was stormy .But well better late then never. I’m enjoying the silent, charming, misty white landscape as long as it lasts. :)

Oh I and almost forgot to wish Alyon a
Happy Birthday!!!!*slaps head*And talking about birthdays guess who's one of the nexties ;)

Cheerioz

BLOSSOM
02-07-2007, 02:00 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/hbalyon.jpg

Have a lovely day! :)

whiteling
02-07-2007, 04:02 PM
In the middle of their investigations in Oxford, Mr. Wood and Mr. Hurt are being hit by a horrible vision all of a sudden:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/OxfordMurders_Wood_Hurt_vis.jpg

"Oy! Hands off, Mr. President!! That is ALYON's Birthday cake!"


Happy birthday, dear Alyon! Hope you'll get still a piece of your cake. :) :k

tgshaw
02-07-2007, 04:24 PM
TG- IF I remember correctly, Tolkien didn't like allegory in anything. It left the authors work open to other interpretations that the author did not want, nor intend.
Tolkien said he preferred applicability, which acts through the freedom of the reader, to allegory, which acts through "the purposed domination of the author." It's allegory that he saw as limiting, because in it the author tells the reader what the interpretation is (usually by making it so clear that it's impossible to miss), and that's the only correct way to read the story.

Anything else, any other allegory read into it is a function of someone else in another time and place reading something else into the story to alleviate their own here and now.
If you substitute "meaning" or "interpretation" for the term "allegory" in that sentence, it's a pretty good statement of applicability - the reader applying the story to his or her own life situation. This is exactly what Tolkien wanted the reader to be free to do. The people he got upset with were those who made interpretations that were inconsistent with his cosmos, and those who found a meaning and declared it to be the meaning, thus saying that any reader who saw things differently was wrong. As long as a reader realizes that his or her interpretation isn't the interpretation or specifically Tolkien's interpretation, the reader's free to interpret away.

For more of the letter I quoted earlier, as well as my own "applicable" thoughts on the subject :p , you can go
here (http://www.frodolivesin.us/archives/id42.htm).


BTW - It's "Inklings". I think the Ink Blots were a 1950's singing group ;) ;) .

esmeraldabrandybuck
02-07-2007, 04:28 PM
http://www.overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/alyon07a.jpg
http://www.overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/alyon07b.jpg

Hope you have a great day!! :k




Oo! Oo! Moria Frodo just arrived this very moment in an ice cold box. I've been waiting for him all day, and was due at work 1 1/2 hours ago. The box (and LOST) will have to wait until I get home tonight just before midnight. :)

Eandme
02-07-2007, 06:28 PM
I really am looking forward to hearing from all you Faculty-ites who are going to serve as extras; then we shall know all! :)


Oh hey Mechtild! and everyone else of course!!! :)
My only regret (can you regret something on beforehand?) is that I won't be able to bring my computor to England, so I won't be able to share anything of my experience on set until... Thursday. And by then it will be old news and no one will want to read it *cries* I guess I will try to make notes of anything interesting while I am on set. After all we are meant to be students and we are to bring our own notepads so I guess I'll just sit around scribbling about microexpressions, ElMArtin (Frolijah?) The One Jacket, and other things invisible to the untrained eye...

honeyelf
02-07-2007, 10:45 PM
Happy Birthday, Alyon! :k :k :k

We're waiting for your speach! :D
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/175/383383044_e208e7afea_b.jpg

You saw Bobby the other day, too. Come tell us what you thought! (and you thought I was just kidding about the speach!) ;)

***
I had a disturbing little moment earlier today. I went out the the garage to shred some minor documents. The shredder wasn't plugged in, so I reached up and randomly pulled a plug. Only to here the distinctive lack of sound produced when six computers, including our mail-server, shut down at once! :o :mad: :o

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My only regret (can you regret something on beforehand?) is that I won't be able to bring my computor to England, so I won't be able to share anything of my experience on set until... Thursday. And by then it will be old news and no one will want to read it *cries* ...

:eek: Are you mad??? Priorities, woman! Rest assured we'll all be waiting here for every scrap, every morsel you can recall!

I guess I will try to make notes of anything interesting while I am on set. After all we are meant to be students and we are to bring our own notepads so I guess I'll just sit around scribbling about microexpressions, ElMArtin (Frolijah?) The One Jacket, and other things invisible to the untrained eye...

Yes, please! Remember, this is for research purposes! ;)

***

Whiteling, I'm delighting in that deliciously twisted mind of yours again! :lol: That's got to be the most original Faculty Birthday card yet!

honey!

Alyon
02-08-2007, 12:40 AM
Thank you Honey, TG, Whiteling, Blossom, Wispy, Bunnie, TxTac, Achila, Ceefour, Mechtild, Ezzie, And Shelbyshire for the birthday wishes and picture prezzies. I haven't been speaking up in here too often lately, but I'm here and watching. I love the Oxford Murders pictures, and I'm really looking forward to this one. I love hearing about how gracious Elijah is on set. Another director falls in love. He must be a dream to work with.

As of today, I'm old enough to go look for dragon treasure. So I'm looking around for something shiny. I got a lot of liquor for my birthday...and honestly, I'm not that much of a drinker. Am I supposed to think of toasting myself over and over as I contemplate my next quest? Is it supposed to help me see the dwarves???

Anyway. 'Twas fun.

Honey:
You saw Bobby the other day, too. Come tell us what you thought! (and you thought I was just kidding about the speach!)

Yeah, my husband and I saw it and we cried and cried. I went into it prepared to think it might be a little cheesy--but it was far less so than I had thought it was going to be. I knew I'd be moved by the RFK speeches--and I was--but I also liked the rest of the movie. I was also prepared to have Elijah be a little passive--but I liked him. And I didn't know, you know, the ending bit with him!!!

So I'll refrain from getting too political--but that was liberalism at it's best. I'll talk about that elsewhere. I wish the film had made more of an impact. IMO Americans have to return to the idea that what pride in country should be related to the welfare of all of our citizens. Whoops. I keep saying more than I'm supposed to in here.

But, yeah, the messages are pretty timely.

But to the acting--Lindsay Lohan was sweetish and fine, though didn't strike me as the light of the story, or whatever Emilio Estavez said about her. But totally fine. And Elijah...I liked him. Not tons to the role. But he wasn't a sleepwalking character...I felt the person he was playing.

I suppose I'm not supposed to say he looked pretty good, either...hmmm ;)

Good night all. And over here it's still February 7th. Forty-three years ago today, the Beatles first landed in America. :cool:

txtac
02-08-2007, 01:54 PM
Alyon wrote:...And over here it's still February 7th. Forty-three years ago today, the Beatles first landed in America
Talk about your timing, or coincidence, but this caught my eye in Yahoo Entertainment today. Evan Rachel Wood of The Bumblebee Flies Anyway fame, is staring in a musical called "Across the Universe" featuring the Beatles songs. You can see the HD trailer here: http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/acrosstheuniverse.html


For those of us who can't seem to leave Middle Earth behind, there is an update on the "new" book Children of Hurin over on TORn.
TORN EXCLUSIVE: Deluxe Edition of THE CHILDREN OF HÚRIN Stamp!

2/08/07, 12:44 pm EST - Xoanon

Here is the artwork Alan Lee has created for the gold foil stamp to appear on the front board and slipcase of the deluxe edition of THE CHILDREN OF HÚRIN. The final jacket art will be posted on Amazon tomorrow morning. THE CHILDREN OF HÚRIN will be released worldwide on April 17!
A picture of the stamp design can be seen here: http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/18239

Achila
02-08-2007, 02:43 PM
Close but no cigar, luv -- it's Rachel Leigh Cook of Bumblebee. Evan Rachel Wood was in the film, Thirteen, among others. ;)

txtac
02-09-2007, 12:18 PM
I stand corrected. It is Rachael Leigh Cook. I had to go pull my copy of the DVD to double check. They say that the first thing to go is the mind... :rolleyes: I think that's true! ;) You know that Elijah's made too many movies when you can't keep all of his girls straight ! :eek:


Found this over on TORn. At least we know that Tolkien is not altogether dead yet!

Director visits Tolkien's Grave to Get Approval
By Paul Majendie
Thu Feb 8, 8:58 AM ET
LONDON (Reuters Life!) - The director of a revamped "The Lord of the Rings" musical went to J.R.R. Tolkien's grave to seek the author's posthumous blessing for staging the cult classic -- and he apologised in case the writer disapproved. "That was a magical moment," director Matthew Warchus told reporters on Thursday when presenting to the press the 50-strong cast of what is being billed as the most expensive musical ever staged in London.

"I visited his grave in Oxford to apologise and get his seal of approval. I apologised in case he didn't like the idea of a stage show," the director said.

The musical, extensively reworked and cut by 40 minutes after its world premiere in Toronto received some damning reviews, opens in London in June where it faces tough competition from a string of hit musicals.

As actors playing deadly orcs skipped, bounded and somersaulted across London's historic Theatre Royal Drury Lane, Warchus called the three-hour spectacular "a mixture of Shakespeare and Cirque du Soleil."

The Toronto show, which took four years to bring to the stage, was applauded by critics for its gymnastic orcs and menacing dark riders but they confessed to getting lost in the tangled plots of Tolkien's Middle Earth.

So the producers went back to the drawing board.

"The differences are wholesale. I would call this a world premiere because it is so different," Warchus said. "The trouble in Toronto was that we were getting too much of the story on stage. Toronto was the stepping stone."

The show cost 12.5 million pounds to stage in Canada and another 12.5 million pounds to put on in London, producer Kevin Wallace said. "It is the most expensive musical ever staged in London's West End," he added.

London theatres enjoyed a record year in 2006, fuelled by hit musicals like "The Sound of Music" and Monty Python's "Spamalot".

But Wallace was confident he could fill the 2,000-seat theatre. "Thank God the West End is booming at the moment. It has had its best year ever. We want to contribute to that success."

Among the stars are Laura Michelle Kelly, who won an Olivier theatre award for her stage portrayal of Mary Poppins and returns to play Galadriel. "After taking a year off, I realised I really missed being on stage," she said.
This sounds pretty spectacular for a stage show. I hope that someone films it. I wouldn't mind getting the DVD of this one either! :z:

shireling
02-09-2007, 05:32 PM
Hello All

Better late than never, I'm here with my contribution to the new thread:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/faculty.jpg

Saw 'Bobby' a couple of weeks ago & loved it - very moving. I had an idea about what happened to William from something I'd read, but it was still a shock to see that. I wonder if those of you here who have followed Elijah's career as long & as closely as I have (it's five years for me now) have that strange feeling of familiarity when he makes his first appearance in a new film. When he appeared in that doorway in 'Bobby' I almost felt I was seeing a member of my family or a very close friend. It doesn't last, I soon get lost in whatever character he's playing - but it's an odd feeling & the funny thing is it's even beginning to affect my husband in the same way :D

Big adventure coming up for us both next week - we are joining the army of Elijah fans as extras on 'The Oxford Murders' for two days. Never done anything like this before - I still can't believe it's real :)

Brummie
02-09-2007, 06:13 PM
This is an edited version of my LJ post

After some difficulty in finding an unlocked entrance to the (apparently disused) Barking campus I followed the orange OM signs leading to a conglomeration of trailers, vans and coaches. The two coaches were warm and cosy with heaters front and back and had been converted inside to provide seats and tables. I found my contact, signed a release form and read the page of script.

My eyes just about popped out of my head at the script in front of me. Not at the two scenes we were in, but at the two which were to be intercut with them. Suffice it to say we shall see something of Elijah we have not seen before.

We were provided with a really delicious hot lunch and I found that most of the other non-professional extras were staff from Queen Mary College. Then the man to whom I was chatting suddenly said “There’s Elijah Wood!” And there he was, right in front of the coach, with Pam. It seemed as though she was leaving and he was staying behind, but they both got into a car and were driven off. As our scenes did not involve him, I thought that was all we would see of him.

The wardrobe girl came in to check that our clothes fitted their (somewhat stereotyped) idea of maths professors and devotees in the early 1990s. (We had been told to look tweedy or even frumpy.)
Eventually we were led to the set in a lecture room. They were very particular about who sat where and were moving people around to get the distribution right.

There were a couple of rehearsals, then 2 or 3 takes of each scene, for which the script was as follows:

MINOR SCENE SPOILERS:
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91 INT. CONGRESS IN CAMBRIDGE – DAY

Seldom observes Professor Wilkins, with his back to us, in his conference about modular curves. We also see Podorov.

92 INT. CONGRESS IN CAMBRIDGE –DAY

Close up of Seldom. The blackboard is full of numbers, Greek letters and logical symbols. Wilkins writes on the blackboard: Q.E.D. (Quod erat demonstrandum). The packed conference hall erupts into applause, stunned by his genius.

So far, so good. Except when the they came to do the takes, the actor wrote (Q,E,D) as if they were letters in a series. I applauded, as directed, but inside I was horrified, and whispered to my neighbour, “That’s wrong.” “Yes,” he said, “It is.” I was thinking, I can’t let this film go out like this. But how is the director going to react to a lowly extra telling him it is wrong? Nevertheless, as he came down to the front I caught his attention. “No commas?” “No.” “No parentheses?” “No”. Other people around me were nodding and agreeing. “We’ll correct it in post-production.” However, after discussion with his crew he must have decided it was easier just to do another take, so we did, yours truly having clarified to the actor what was required.

Then it was back to base for more hot drinks and sandwiches, and there was John Hurt and the actor who had played the Wilkins character (now called something else) talking to Elijah. Some of the other extras were going up for autographs so I took out my call sheet and they kindly signed it. I asked Elijah if he was also filming there today. John Hurt said that in fact Elijah was filming more than he was and Elijah said they had been filming him playing squash, though without a ball for much of the time. So I said something about them playing tennis in the book and Elijah looked surprised (I guess this is another book he hasn’t read) and said (highlight to read spoiler) that the walls of the court had mathematical symbols written on them and you couldn’t have that on a tennis court
Sorry, txtac, it didn't really seem the right place to ask about SXSW.

It was a fascinating afternoon and gave an insight into the filming process. What an immense amount of trouble for 30 seconds of film, if that. But there is no other way of doing it.

tgshaw
02-09-2007, 07:35 PM
Brummie, all I can say is thank goodness there was a Faculty member present to save the day :z: ! (Not that this Faculty member would have known how Q.E.D. should have been written :p .) Kudos for having the courage to speak up. -- We'll have to have a rundown on the scenes everyone is in so we can pay special attention :cool: .

Well, I can also say that I've been missing Oxford since August, and having Elijah there - and being his usual lovely self - doesn't make it any better.

I was going to ask why the script said "Cambridge," but I haven't read the book and I'm actually going to try to avoid spoilers about the plot until I see the movie.

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I was bringing the DVD of March of the Penguins to the office because someone had asked to borrow it, so I also grabbed EII in case our Russian lab director wanted to watch it. She'd already seen it, but we started talking about the history involved and I mentioned The Witness. She was interested in seeing it, so I brought Perverse Destiny 3 for her the next day. She watched all the shorts on the VCD (which I haven't done :rolleyes: ), and said they were all okay - but she was blown away by The Witness. Now she wants me to pick out more movies for her and her husband to borrow ;) , as he tries to pick out good movies at Blockbuster but doesn't know enough about American films to always pick ones worth watching. I'm thinking Avalon might be next. :D

She wasn't impressed only with Elijah (neither was I - we both think the director deserved an award, and Gary Sinese is incredible in it, IMHO), but when I asked her what she thought of Elijah's acting as "Little Boy," she kind of shivered and said, "So...! So...!" and didn't know what word to use. I couldn't agree more. :) :)

(And I think I have someone else in the department just about talked into watching EII, so I haven't taken it home.)

sneaking
02-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Anybody live in the Glasgow area? Paris Je T'aime is showing at the Glasgow Film Festival next week.

http://www.glasgowfilmfestival.org.uk/programme/show/68

It's doesn't say it's sold out, so tickets could well still be available and they are cheap.

Apologies if anybody has already mentioned this.

tgshaw
02-10-2007, 09:34 AM
I'm nowhere in the Glasgow area, sneaking, but it's always nice to see one of Elijah's movies getting picked up for a film festival. :)


The March issue of Premiere magazine has two columns with more-or-less relevant content.

"Notes from the Dream Factory," which goes into behind-the-scenes Hollywood, is about the problems between Peter Jackson and New Line. The whole thing started over PJ's request to NL for an audit of LotR-FotR which, according to the columnist, is common practice when someone is supposed to get a share of a movie's revenue - which makes NL's refusal look as if they have something to hide, whether or not they do. No one comes out at the end of the story smelling completely like a rose, but the writer is obviously on PJ's side.

Okay, that's a serious, fairly even-handed news column. If you've never read the magazine's "If You Ask Me" column, you might not want to start with this month's rant about Happy Feet (actually more of a rant about penguins, which the columnist claims to hate more than she hates "war or terrorism or the adorably deliberate misspelling in the title of The Pursuit of Happyness." To put this in perspective, the first time I read this column it advocated letting the main character from 24 Hours run the government, the war in Iraq, and everything else, along with espousing the idea that people should start smoking again - and somehow managed to tie the two suggestions together. Every nasty remark about Happy Feet just made me laugh and think "Yeah, that's true," and come out loving the movie even more [sample, regarding Lovelace's plight: "If they can talk, sing, and dance, why can't they manage to avoid packaging hazards?"].

Two pics of Elijah - well, kind of. A shot of the hobbits hiding from the Black Rider in the column about Peter Jackson, and for the "If You Ask Me" column, a drawing of a tall penguin standing with four shorter ones in the background as the columnist and the new James Bond actor rotisserie the fifth amigo in the foreground. (But why does the fifth amigo have blue eyes? :confused: )

Achila
02-10-2007, 10:26 AM
...and for the "If You Ask Me" column, a drawing of a tall penguin standing with four shorter ones in the background as the columnist and the new James Bond actor rotisserie the fifth amigo in the foreground. (But why does the fifth amigo have blue eyes? :confused: )

TG, that old philosopher, Bugs Bunny, must've been right. To paraphrase: "Peng-oo-ins *is* practically chickens" :haha:

txtac
02-10-2007, 02:29 PM
Brummie wrote: Sorry, txtac, it didn't really seem the right place to ask about SXSW.
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I am suprised that you remembered! Most people just get 'ga-ga' when they meet him. There really is no 'right' time to ask a question unless it is an "official interview" and you are the interviewer. Sometimes you just have to bull ahead. Grab the bull by the horns and ask. It helps to preface the question(s) with a politeness: "Let me ask a quick question. Will you be at SXSW this year? How about the decision to have a guy in a monkey suit at the Simian Records booth as an attention getter?" It will throw him for a second because his brain is not in the SXSW gear, but he really is quick. He will give you an answer and smile. He has always been honest and upfront. Sometimes bluntly, but be honest and upfront with him. He appreciates that too. ;)

Maybe you will get a chance to ask him at a later date. The movie will need extras at a later date. You might be able to get in again. :z: If not, will someone who will be there please ask E-dog if he is still planning on having a Simian Records presance at SXSW and if he would like to have a guy in a monkey suit to help advertise Simian Records? :z: PLEASE !

Eandme
02-10-2007, 02:57 PM
Brummie and I are both going to be there on Tuesday and Wednesday, but I must admit, out of all the questions that I would absolutely Love to ask Elijah given half a chance to chat with him, yours is not among the top five... Sorry... It's not a bad question!! It's just... It would be such a friggin nightmare to be talking to him and then suddenly realize he is being polite to cover up the fact that he is majorly bored/distracted/annoyed by the conversation :( It would really kill me. So if I'm gonna talk to him it is going to have to be because I have got something I can't go on living without having said to him.
It seems like they have already had a lot of fans on set, so I'm guessing they are a bit used to it by now, but also a bit fed up. Sorry for my being a bit... not brave enough, ok? Maybe Brummie will fare better than I... :(

txtac
02-10-2007, 06:44 PM
Eandme wrote: Brummie and I are both going to be there on Tuesday and Wednesday,
Excellent! Good for you. It sounds like Shireling might be joining you too. :z:
*Note to administrator- we need an emoticon for 'Party!' like they have on the IMDb boards*
...but I must admit, out of all the questions that I would absolutely Love to ask Elijah given half a chance to chat with him, yours is not among the top five... Sorry... It's not a bad question!! It's just... It would be such a friggin nightmare to be talking to him and then suddenly realize he is being polite to cover up the fact that he is majorly bored/distracted/annoyed by the conversation
Don't feel bad. We all have hundreds of questions that we would like to ask him. You've been on a movie set before. You know that most of the time is spent just standing around waiting for someone else to do their job. It does get quite boring at times. During the breaks, or after the film raps for the day you usually get a chance to talk to whomever. Put yourself in Elijah's shoes. How many times can you hear "Oh you're sooo cute!" or "You're so handsome" or "I love your eyes..." Your statement of "majorly bored/distracted/annoyed" comes into play here. Elijah has heard it all a gizzillion times already. If you really want to talk with him, say, or ask something that is not movie, or 'him' related. His mind still might be on the movie at hand. If he is still in character- DO NOT talk to him. Let him concentrate and think on what he is doing. BUT, if the shooting has rapped for the day, or it is in the middle of one of those intermitable brakes, getting his mind off of it and onto something that he is interested in is a God-send.

He really likes music. It really perks him up if you ask a music related question. I think IMHO that he wouldn't mind talking about Apples in Stereo, Simian Records or the upcoming SXSW Music Festival. He loves going to SXSW. It is his favorite music and film festival. If you get him started you may not be able to get him to stop! If the movie raps in time, he should be back in the States in time for SXSW. The last that I heard, he was planning on having a booth in the Trade Show and Exhibition for Simian Records. Asking him if he is still planning on going is a safe question. One that he will be interested in answering. It will get his mind off of the boredom and the stupid things that fans say/ask. Asking him about the guy in the gorilla suit is just for fun. Besides, I'm the one volunteering to wear the hot, stinking costum for the week long event. I'd like to know what his decision is- if he wants to do it, or not.
His next music project after Apples in Stereo will be Eloise and the Savoir Faire. Ask him something about that if you want to. Ask him something fun and off-beat. Something that will occupy his mind and have some fun with. ;)

Wispy_Wistaria
02-11-2007, 07:50 AM
Honeyelf
Geez …déjà vu …
That pic stood in our January newspaper by an article about R.Kennedy/the movie. But this one is far bigger and clearer then the hazy one I saw.
Though I know I immediately picked his smiley head out of the crowd.
My eyes are so very “Lijfocused” it’s becoming unhealthy haha :D

Whiteling
Nice manip :haha:
Bad bad Bush!

Alyon
I suppose I'm not supposed to say he looked pretty good, either...hmmm ;) Say no more… I was just trying to get that white costume thingy out of my head. Look where you got me now with your suppositions *ahum* :p

Hi Shireling Nice intro image and glad to see you liked Bobby too. :)

To all the members:Brummie, Eandme, Shireling etc… who are gonna be extra’s for OFM. Lucky you. Have fun!!!! I’ll read your reports with eager eyes. :cool:

I’m sending already my wishes to Achila
Have a wonderful birthday tomorrow ! and more colourful years to go ! :k

http://img64.photobucket.com/albums/v196/marylou_gr/colorbars/elijahcolorbar2.jpg

Achila
02-11-2007, 08:58 AM
Thanks, W_W!

txtac
02-11-2007, 10:21 AM
Shire Circumstances

Will Peter Jackson make ''The Hobbit''? -- MGM and New Line want the rights to the book
By Steve Daly Steve Daly

Over eight grueling years, Peter Jackson turned J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings into a multibillion-dollar franchise. So you'd think that New Line, the studio that financed the LOTR juggernaut (and an EW sister company), would have long since locked up plans to adapt The Hobbit, Tolkien's juvenile-flavored preamble to the trilogy. But a long-simmering rights imbroglio has precluded the movie from coming to fruition — by Jackson or anyone else.

Happily, that conflict seemed to be clearing up last week, when the story broke that MGM — owner of the distribution rights to The Hobbit, but not the rights to the motion picture, which is the property of New Line?was prepared to finance a new film and wanted Jackson to direct. There was just one catch: According to Jackson, nobody at MGM has actually called him. Ever.

''It's been three years since we delivered The Return of the King, ''says the 44-year-old filmmaker. ''In all that time, nobody's ever spoken to us about The Hobbit.... We haven't been thinking about The Hobbit because there's no point getting excited if [New Line and MGM] don't have the rights sorted out.'' Instead, Jackson has turned to overseeing other projects, including exec-producing a movie version of the videogame smash Halo, remaking the WWII flying story The Dam Busters (to be directed by LOTR computer-animation expert Christian Rivers), adapting the fantasy book series Temeraire, and helping out with special-effects work on James Cameron's 3-D opus Avatar.

Jackson himself plans to return to the director's chair for the first time since King Kong with The Lovely Bones, based on Alice Sebold's acclaimed 2002 novel about a murdered girl watching her family from heaven. In fact, when the Hobbit news broke, he had just completed an initial script with partner Fran Walsh and LOTR collaborator Philippa Boyens and was preparing to show it to outside readers. ''We don't want it to be a Hollywood fantasy of the afterlife, bright lights and dry ice and all that stuff,'' says Jackson of Bones. ''I want this to be a journey to becoming a different kind of filmmaker. I want to achieve a movie so different than Kong and Lord of the Rings that it doesn't feel like it was directed by the same person.''

So would one of the busiest — and most in-demand — directors in the film industry actually push back his other highly anticipated work to finish off the last major Middle-earth novel? ''Dunno,'' says Jackson. ''The politics between New Line and MGM have never been shared with us. MGM seemingly wants to partner on the film, but I think New Line would rather buy MGM out and run the movie themselves.'' New Line had no comment at press time, while MGM wouldn't discuss any negotiations with Jackson, only issuing a statement to say that his LOTR success ''makes him the first and most ideal choice for directing The Hobbit.'' But make no mistake: In the wake of MGM's unilateral announcement, Jackson has indeed started thinking about what he might do with The Hobbit. He's especially intrigued by the idea of making two films and inventing new material to fill in gaps in the story, since the plot — about how Bilbo Baggins (Ian Holm in the LOTR films) befriends Gandalf (Ian McKellen), falls afoul of the miserable creature Gollum, and comes into possession of that pesky ring?is fairly simplistic compared with LOTR.

In the meantime, Jackson seems puzzled that MGM should court him publicly, but not privately. ''I don't want to complain,'' he says. ''It's nice to wake up and turn on the Internet and see that you're being considered for a movie. But it is kind of curious. I guess I'll just keep watching the Net and see if there's any more news.''

Posted Sep 22, 2006 | Published in issue #899 Sep 29, 2006

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1537662,00.html

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BOOK NEWS: The Children of Hurin

Found this on TORn. To see the final jacket cover, click here:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20011428,00.html

Here's your first look at the jacket art for ''The Children of Hurin,'' the completion of ''Lord of the Rings'' author J.R.R. Tolkien's unfinished novel, due out April 17
By Gilbert Cruz

In the 33 years since Lord of the Rings author J.R.R. Tolkien passed away, his youngest son Christopher has relentlessly plugged away at deciphering and organizing his father's voluminous notes into further tales of Middle Earth. On April 17, the release of The Children of Húrin — begun by the elder Tolkien in 1918 — will bring those tales to a close.

According to the Tolkien estate website, The Children of Húrin ''takes the reader back to a time long before The Lord of the Rings, in an area of Middle Earth that was to be drowned before ever Hobbits appeared, and when the great enemy was still the fallen Vala, Morgoth, and Sauron only his lieutenant. This heroic romance is the tale of the Man, Húrin, who dared to defy Morgoth's force of evil, and his family's tragic destiny, as it follows his son Túrin Turambar's travails through the lost world of Beleriand.''

Quite a mouthful, huh? If the only word you recognize in that paragraph is ''Hobbit,'' then you probably shouldn't even think about picking up this book without first reading the other books Christopher Tolkien has worked on over the past three decades — The Silmarillion (1977), which contains both the Middle Earth creation tale and beautiful love story of Beren and Luthien; Unfinished Tales (1980); and The History of Middle Earth (a 12-volume set released between 1983 and 1996). It's a lot. You'd best get started now.

Pelagia
02-12-2007, 06:42 AM
Darn! I wouldn’t have canceled out on ELF last July if I had known that Achila was going to be sitting THIS CLOSE!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Lalage/thisclose.jpg

(Of course, TOL probably would say something stronger than “Darn!”)

Have a lovely birthday. I hope the weather doesn’t interfere with your celebrations this year.

Shelbyshire
02-12-2007, 06:53 AM
Elijah exclaims, "Achila...she's arrived!"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/20021218WellingtonTePapa10byCatto.jpg

Happy Birthday!!

The following are some pics posted over at LJ this weekend. A trip down memory lane. Thanks, Karin, for posting them and thank you to whoever or is it whomever took the photograph...:k

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/20011219WellingtonFOTR12RobertCatto.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/20031202WellingtonWLG43RobertCatto.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/20031202WellingtonWLG41RobertCatto.jpg

And one of Mechtild's lovely pointy ear caps from Rivendell...

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Mechtild
02-12-2007, 08:25 AM
I can't believe I got so far behind in these posts. Great comments, everyone, and Happy Birthday, Achila! :D

I am very excited about getting this new volume of The Children of Hurin. I'm on pre-order at Amazon, but for the regular edition. I can't afford the extra 80.00 to get the collector's edition.

~ M

ceefour
02-12-2007, 09:12 AM
Happy Birthday, Achila!

C4

BLOSSOM
02-12-2007, 11:23 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/achila.jpg

Hope you're having a lovely day! :)

Shireling, Brummie, Eandme - and anyone else who may be travelling to Harrow School for Tuesday and Wednesday's filming of The Oxford Murders, have a safe trip, and enjoy the experience. Oh, the pain of being in Elijah's presence for eleven solid hours, and trying your best not to look at him the entire time! ;) I'm looking forward to hearing all about it - enjoy! :)

honeyelf
02-12-2007, 12:56 PM
Happy Birthday, Achila! :k :k :k

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/172478232_abc4ec355c_o.jpg

I'm sorry I didn't post a digest of Alex de la Iglesias OM blog last Friday, as had been the pattern. There were so many posts! And I've been so busy. :p I'll try to do it tonight, after my class. But for now :eek: :eek: homework! :eek: :eek:

honey!

whiteling
02-12-2007, 03:58 PM
Happy Birthday, Achila! :)
Enjoy your day!

You *are* a toxicologist, aren't you? I think you should submit the Shire's water to a careful examination as soon as possible... there have occured rather ahem, strange things lately...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/Frodos_Herzeleid.jpg


:D :k

Achila
02-12-2007, 04:11 PM
Oh Lieber Gott.....

Whiteling, du hast mich gestorben....TOT! Tausend dank -- das ist fantastisch! :lol: :k

I was just coming in to say thank you to everyone for your lovely birthday wishes too.... :k :k :k

whiteling
02-12-2007, 04:24 PM
Freut mich, dass Dir Frodo Lindemann gefällt ;)

BunnieBugs
02-12-2007, 04:25 PM
Happy Birthday, Achila!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Picspam/photoshoots/01197642.jpg


And a lovely little snippet from the blog of the Oxford Murders' director:

...not only is Elijah most important for me as the protagonist of the film, but it seems to me that he is one of the best people that I have known in my life. Yesterday, today, every day he demonstrates his affection and it's a help to me, it allows me to advance. Without him everything would be infinitely more complicated.

Achila
02-12-2007, 04:48 PM
Freut mich, dass Dir Frodo Lindemann gefällt ;)
Thanks again, luv -- I hope you don't mind that I shared it with my LJ friends?

And thanks, Bunnie -- that's quite...inspirational! :k

honeyelf
02-12-2007, 05:49 PM
Whiteling! :eek: :eek: :eek: :lol:

Well, my instructor has been felled by the flu, meaning class is cancelled and I can justify a bit of dabbling about at something not-entirely-productive. So here is my digest of past week as viewed by Sr. de la Iglesia, director of The Oxford Murders. As always, the posts are from Sr. de la Iglesia's blog, with the exception of one entry, explained below. Translations services are provided by the clever people at the elijah_finds lj community, and (happily less and less so) babelfish. There are spoilers; they are marked, and (I hope) cleverly disguised.

Alex had a bit of trouble on the set this week, the result of a twisted ankle, for one, a recalcitrant computer for another, so [SIC] for this post! :lol: And the week was just getting started!
Iamwriting fromoneofthosehorriblemachinesatthe airport, one of those in which you putfoureuros andyouare allowed towriteforsomeseconds.I'mtaking rightnowthe plane to London. I've twisted my ankle yesterday, I have itdressed,butIamalive.God,this writesawful. SPOILER - highlight to read:

Tomorro I will film thesexsecnes betweenElijah and Leonor. Ihopeeverything go right

Oh my! :o *fans self*

But Alex seems to be in his usual good spirits, and to always have the happiness of his stars close to his heart.

I've just wake up, I have slept fine, thanks to the drugstore I've bring alone and attention: One Spanish-ham for Mr. Hurt, to have him happy. A Spanish-ham with two balls, because I saw him wanting it the other day and I've brought a five j-s hoof that had cost me one of my kidneys and half of the other.

And some CDs for Elijah. I've bought him Marlango y Jorge Drexler, so that he hears what they do and this way knows how marvellous the woman he works with is. This goes for Leonor's mother. And no. I say this just because I want to!

Note of the translator, Suzy_74. Because - being geeks - I know we find these things fascinating:
Let me explain you the sentence: "A Spanish-ham with two balls, because I saw him wanting it the other day and I've brought a five j-s hoof that had cost me one kidney and a half."

"A spanish-ham with two balls" doesn't mean that the ham came balls included *lol* But as many of you know it's difficult to take it on a plane. Alex had "two balls" to take it with him.

"A five j-s hoof" is the whole piece (called "hoof" because it goes from the thigh to the hoof, and you can see it) of the best kind of Spanish (cured and salted) ham from Extremadura (one of the places where pigs are still fed with acorns, that give the ham a delicious taste).

It's extremely expensive. And when we want to say that it's extremely EXTREMELY expensive we say it cost "one of my kidneys and half of the other".

More of Alex:

I have been reading the comments and the truth is that I have laughed a good while, with the mythical lieutenant, or the great Mr. Celofan, the incorrigible Solitary Plainsman, and those marvelous girls, that yes, all are in love with Elijah. Campanilla, as always, worse than ever. Now something it says of my dentures. But it is right, I have broken my ankle ... It’s a little purple, but it does not seem to get worse, the ankle.

SPOILERS - highlight to read
Leonor, marvelous and shining, a practically perfect day she has given me. Without her happiness, it would be difficult to face these filmings. To me filming sex gives me a lot of shame (embarrassment?), because really is a matter that, to be very professional, it must be short enough. Or better they said, the more professional it is, the more difficult to do.

We filmed on a closed set, so there cannot be photos, and do neither we record the sequences in the combo (not sure what that is…). Poor Dani, my assistant, they have not let enter. In any case, the security measures, instead of helping, make the environment still more rarefied. In the end, all we have to have be there: sound, sound assistant, the cameras –that’s a troop-, direction, in short, we are all except Dani. Dani and the photographers. This is absurd. Nevertheless, the matter has been very relaxed and nice thanks to the actors. Of Elijah, what can I say that I have not said: excellent. Simply excellent, facilitating all, pleasing (?), giving the best, helping the others, trying to make everything as uncomplicated as possible. A gentleman with Leonor, loving with Pamela (who did not enter the set either for delicacy), trying to lessen the importance of the matter. Does neither it have it, but is good to know it, and that they cause they know it you the others.

Well, we always knew Elijah was nothing if not a gentleman, didn't we!

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There's the director, and his two principle actors.

Sr. de la Iglesia seems calm enough there, but the difficulties for him continued, and then he was not so calm....

Late, tired. I can't articulate things correctly. Today was a hard day (again). People are starting to make fun of me when I say it's been a hard day, because EVERY day is hard. Still, Elijah and Leonor made it easy, delightful, despite everything being difficult and tiresome [thorny, tricky]. What fantastic actors, God. They're an explosive pair, marvelous.

The day started out with a difficult technical problem that forced us to do over a few takes with Elijah. As if CSI were in the middle of it, there was a search for the guilty ones. It was only an accident, but accidents are expensive in this kind of productions, losing an hour is a disaster that can cost thousands of pounds. Even so we reacted in time, and Elijah didn't have any problem with filming his shot again, without a single complaint, and besides that, he managed to give me a lesson on how to behave. I was angry, flabbergasted, and I felt like breaking down and crying, like I could bite the walls. But he demonstrated truly admirable aplomb.

SPOILERS - highlight to read
I also have to thank Leonor for saving me from having to use doubles for her sex scenes. I had four girls ready, two of whom seemed feasible, of them VERY feasible. However, Leonor showed that she not only didn't need it, but that the film, let's say, GAINED a lot by having her, if you understand me. I didn't want to film Last Tango [in Paris], but I did want something powerful, something to explain how happy two young people can be when they desire each other. Humbly, I do believe we've achieved that.

:o :o :o Hot in here, or is it just me? :o :o :o

Alex is more and more fond of, and claims indebtedness to, his star. This snippet is very sweet:
What happened today? I remember a hat, a hat that I don't like, that they show me in the last minute. I decide not to show it, but in the last instant I put it over the table. So in the next take I'll have to use it because IT'S SEEN the hat. Bitchy hat. These kinds of things unhinge me.

I remember talking to Elijah about Raymond Scoot, the Powerhouse; my favourite subject. I remember commenting with him about Elfman's music in "Nightmare before Christmas", that it's highly influenced by Kurt Weill, and he [Elijah] doesn't know him. Let's see when I can gift him with more disks [CDs], the six pens opera, he has to listen it [he has to listen to that one]. Every day that goes by I love him more.

Time consumes me like Nexus 6, and the last hours of the day had been frenetic. Running, like beaten up dogs we mounted [?] the two last scenes, and thanks to the splendid camera crew I have for this movie, to Kiko and the actors, the results are amazing. God bless them, Elijah, Burn Gorman, the granddad that plays Higgins. The way of working. They are respectful, they are professionals, polite. Always concentrated, always in tension. Thanks to all.

to be continued...

sneaking
02-12-2007, 06:06 PM
(Happy Birthday Achila. I have no exciting pictures, but happy birthday nonethless).

An update concerning the BAFTAs and awards in general (I trust nobody will care about being spoiled, I think they've aired now in the US).

Firstly, Elijah didn't go (this was something we speculated on).

Secondly, re: earlier discussion about Jonathan Ross, he didn't do very well hosting. He couldn't make them laugh/wasn't the right guy for the audience.

Thirdly, a film you may possibly have heard of (Happy Feet) won the BAFTA for Best Animated Film. :)

Fourthly, Cars won the Annie. :( And is the presumptive favourite to win the Oscar. It has been touch and go but all the oscar blogging people seem to think Cars is the favourite after the Annies win (BAFTA tend to be quirky and different to the Oscars but often end having awarded the right thing in retrospect).

Finally, veering off in a completely difference direction, the rest of the main cast for 9 is out (http://community.livejournal.com/elijah_finds/107850.html#cutid1) which some people might be interested in:

"The leads are Christopher Plummer, Martin Landau, Elijah Wood and John C. Reilly."

This is an intriguing cast. Quite a strange mixture of people.

As a footnote, if anybody is in the mood for pain and suffering, another animated film that stars Elijah but which is not generally mentioned by name around here is on TV in the UK Tueday 13th February at 11:00 on BBC2.

honeyelf
02-12-2007, 06:09 PM
Shoot, I had part two, and then I lost it! :mad:

Here's a bit from February 8th which I particularly wanted to highlight, because it contains Alex's side of Brummie's story above! Yay, Brummie!
It is odd to realize that filming generates a volcano of feelings in me. Mistress, hatred, and I cry a river in only a day. A day of filming contains in itself a whole life, ten thousand absurd, tragic situations, amusing, distressing. And in addition, without any apparent order. I can become depressed in a second, and in the next second I am more content than castanets, like I have already said that my wife says.

The day began intensely, because it snowed and tomorrow we have exteriors. What to do? My legs shook. On the set I became mad at those from decoration because they had not done what I wanted, or I did not explain myself well (surely, it was the second). What happened was that while we filmed, it was altering against field/camp to forced marches, trying not to strike them with a cleaner/mop. The soundmen were fuming because the place did not have good acoustics, and the neon lights made an infernal noise. Nevertheless, we did not have time to be snooty. On the other hand, they had to make it work, and if it didn’t work, I can **** the scene. We had to film two important scenes in one place and another one in another one, separated by about five hundred meters. The change of location always wastes time, and we could not afford to lose one second. Kiko, that is losing the reason of the effort, commented that we did not repeat the bullshit of the other day, to leave the scene for the afternoon that required daylight, so we decided in a worthy impulsive act of artistic madness, TO GO to the other location during the daylight and then TO RETURN to the first location. Two changes instead of one. The inevitable thing is not only perfect, it is wonderful, and a decision once taken is law, so we tightened with joy our reproductive organs and kept going.

At this time the Elijah fans arrived in the middle of the snow, shivering, and were shown to the set. A little girl shook with cold and excitement. I had to take her picture because she could not hold the camera because of nerves. Elijah was so friendly... Then to see her move away happy, jumping with contentment, sending shouts of emotion with her prize of photos. It moves me to see how the people are touched.

By the way, in the other location we filmed a scene with fifty pretend mathematicians and John Hurt, to whom jotas enchanted the five to him. He is that polished mathematician who wrote Quod Erat Demostrandum (q.e.d.). I had always seen this with parenthesis and periods in it. The actor wrote commas instead of periods, or very extended periods. Then, among the stand-ins there was a real mathematician, one that swore to me that it NEVER is written with periods and parenthesis. So I had to film the scene once again with the proper QED. The time was inexorably exhausted. We returned to scene one to film the second part. And, Saint Mary of the Blessed God, I finished exactly filming it in the final minute of the day. I noticed the edge of the scythe cutting the hairs of my nose.

It seems shooting a film is fraught with hazzards! :lol:
Jorge just came to polish some sequences. It was in the filming with the camera-car. Today has been a splendid day. The snow fell in the cemetery, as we suspected, but then it happened that it melted in the street, perfect for the sequence of the car. Otherwise, we would now all be in Emergency. At mid-morning it began to rain, and also I had to sit down from the scare (of not being able to film the sequence, I think), but it stopped just when the camera-car was ready. Then I paid attention to the stories, when I closed the door of the church with the cemetery, when some schoolgirls recognized Elijah and they chased him like crazy, when Kiko put on the raincoat like the Hunchback of Notre-Dame. Now I’m going to go to dinner. I’ve finished the third week!!!

Despite all the difficulties inherent to a film-shoot, the director and his cast often dine together. On this night Elijah met an old friend (who was being his usual eccentric self) and Alex met one of his heroes! (This post was later deleted by Alex for unknown reasons.)
We went out to dinner... with Elijah, Julie, and Dani and his girlfriend Camis, and The lovely Leonor. And anyway, we had a good time. Vig[g]o showed up, in the end, but just by coincidence, because he was having dinner at the same place. He showed up dressed like a Russian Mobster because he was filming with Cronenberg and he didn't take off his costume, apparently they came straight from the set, with part of the crew. We were in the little room at the Union, and so were they, downstairs, in the restaurant. What an incredible coincidence. We told Vigo we'd be really thrilled if we could meet Cronenberg. And Vigo left, and a little while later he shows up with David Cronenberg. OK. I have to admit it. I'm a mythomaniac. I adore Cronenberg. I love his movies. So I saw him, I knelt, I hugged him, and I told him I loved him. He laughed, really kind, and we had a nice time. Good guy. He came to our table, when the normal thing would be for us to go to his. What do I know. Then Elijah, Leonor and Julie left and the rest of us went to a party, a party held precisely at Katie's house. Who is Katie? The girl I caused to CRY the other day on the set. But the diabolical and malevolent God CANSANCIOR [from cansancio, tiredness] revealed his presence only a few minutes later, and we retired to our dwellings. Thus it was and thus we have told it. A blog exclusive. I can't take any more. That's all from your witty reporter on City Street.

There were a couple of incidents of fans encroaching on the set this week, and at least one of the fan-commentors on Alex's blog expressed concern, but Alex was reassuring. This includes that bit that Bunnie quoted above:
Well, there is a man worried about Elijah: he says that I should not give data about the filming, and about what we do together, that I should only speak of the work, because he thinks that there is certain danger in it. I believe that he is right (calm, that it is not speaking of the people of this blog). Of course, I never would do anything by any means that could harm Mr. Wood, because not only is Elijah most important for me as the protagonist of the film, but it seems to me that he is one of the best people that I have known in my life. Yesterday, today, every day he demonstrates his affection and it's a help to me, it allows me to advance. Without him everything would be infinitely more complicated.

Today I have rolled his scenes in the end, and he has not put any beats, absolutely did not seem tired, worked with the same intensity in the scene as he did in the first one, repeated when I requested it and the times that I request it of him, he does exactly what is required and does not forget anything, is or it does not agree, and the word that repeats more is OK. [I think now (thanks to some help) that this means: whether or not he agrees, the word that he repeats most is "OK."]You know what means that for me? It is the life, the knowledge that I have a marble column to help support me in the filming, is to trust the future, in the next weeks, almost not to fear that he can do anything.

For that reason I assure the anonymous one that he should be calm because I will do the impossible thing to take care of of my friend. I promise it.

Well, there you go. That's most of what was posted last week. I hope I haven't posted too much, or that it's not too boring. I'm sort of fascinated by the opportunity to see the film making process through a director's eyes, and specifically one who is so fond of our favorite actor!

honey!

sneaking
02-12-2007, 06:13 PM
Woops, I split your heraculean effort (I didn't realise part 2 was following on so fast). I find Alex's blog quite fascinating (even without the Elijah stuff) but I'm getting a bit concerned that the comments etc. are getting out of hand and may drive him away.

honeyelf
02-12-2007, 07:40 PM
Woops, I split your heraculean effort (I didn't realise part 2 was following on so fast). .

Not to worry, Sneaks! :)

I find Alex's blog quite fascinating (even without the Elijah stuff) but I'm getting a bit concerned that the comments etc. are getting out of hand and may drive him away.

Me too! :z: Why can't people be content to just observe? Especially when Alex is giving us the opportunity to peek behind the scenes in a way we'd have never had otherwise? :confused:

honey~

ceefour
02-13-2007, 07:40 AM
Thanks so much, Honey, for the translations of the director's blog. Like sneaking ( and, I'm sure, other Faculty members), I find it fascinating to read. I love it when there's a "Making of..." section on a DVD. In fact, that's what drew me into LOTR fandom (which led me here :k ). Mr. ceefour came home one day with the TTT-EE and when I finally watched it a couple of weeks later ("What do we need this for? We already have it! :rolleyes: ), I was instantly hooked.

Whiteling and Achila, Oh Leiber Gott is right! My eyes----my eyes!!!! :eek: :eek: :lol: :k

C4

txtac
02-13-2007, 02:13 PM
For Honeyelf:
Entertainment Weekly Pick:

The Apples in Stereo, New Magnetic Wonder
(Simian/Yep Roc)

Led by the bald, Beach Boys-obsessed Kentucky resident Robert Schneider, the Apples in Stereo have been transmitting their fussed-out, hook-heavy psychedelia for over a decade. We have a hobbit to thank for this, their first album in five years and their best in twice that long. New Magnetic Wonder is the debut release from bright-eyed actor Elijah Wood's Simian Records - and each of its 24 tracks snaps and crackles with Schneider's sugary, peerless pop. All hail the return of the king.

Mechtild
02-13-2007, 03:14 PM
Thanks, Honey, it was great to see those entries collated and made into a running post. You're great to do this! :)

~ Mechtild

Achila
02-14-2007, 07:18 AM
Outstanding Performer In A Children/Youth/Family Special

Elijah Wood - Saving a Species: The Great Penguin Rescue - Discovery Kids
Kera O'Bryon - Christmas and the Civil War - Discovery
Eion Bailey - Life of the Party - Lifetime

txtac
02-14-2007, 09:47 AM
This is a 'newish' article out in the March 2007 edition of Premier Magazine. It really doesn't say anything new, but the 'chart of the money' is worth looking at. The chart didn't copy over, so you will have to click on the link at the bottom to see it. :(

Peter Jackson vs. New Line
The king of The Lord of the Rings is snarled in a Kong-sized lawsuit with Rings's studio. The Hobbit hangs in the balance. In this excerpt from March 2007's Notes From the Dream Factory, Tom Roston investigates.
by Tom Roston

New Line's option to make The Hobbit expires in 2009; maybe they don't think Peter Jackson can get the movie made in time. The company is also already turning its attention to another mega-budgeted fantasy franchise, the His Dark Materials trilogy. But the studio's motivations became more clear in January, when New Line co-CEO Robert Shaye couldn't refrain from a retort.

"I do not want to make a movie with somebody who is suing me. It will never happen during my watch," he said, and then referred to Jackson as "misinformed" and "myopic."

Whoa. Such a personal outburst (reminiscent of Viacom CEO Sumner Redstone's public berating of Tom Cruise is surprising, because when hundreds of millions of dollars of potential profit are left on the table over a tiff, you need to weigh the impact on your shareholders (New Line is owned by publicly traded Time Warner). And to think it began with the simple request for an audit.

"Bizarre." That's how director James Cameron refers to New Line's reluctance to submit to the audit (Cameron will be shooting his Avatar at Jackson's elaborate filmmaking facility, which Jackson paid for with his Rings money, in Wellington, New Zealand, this summer). Cameron adds that Fox, the company with which he's had a 20-year history, "has always been very transparent financially. It's almost automatic that you do an audit." Admitting that he's speaking out of turn, Cameron intimates that the easiest explanation for New Line's behavior is that it has something to hide. But when you factor in how much money could be made on The Hobbit and another prequel (there's a span of about 60 years between the book and Rings, which I'd imagine Jackson would have a field day fleshing out), we're talking about hundreds of millions of potential profit, if the previous films are any indication.
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To read the whole article, pick up the March 2007 issue of Premiere magazine, on sale now.

http://www.premiere.com/features/3522/peter-jackson-vs-new-line.html

ceefour
02-14-2007, 01:19 PM
The show, Saving a Species: The Great Penquin Rescue, is also nominated for Outstanding Children/Youth/Family Special. So why am I the only one in my family who watched it? :rolleyes: ;)

The winners will be announced in June.

Happy Valentine's Day to the Faculty! :k

C4

txtac
02-14-2007, 03:48 PM
Has anyone heard anything about the 'cash for questions' that Bunnie posted earlier? (It's post #32 on page 2.) It sounds like one of those call in and ask the celebrity whatever. It was sponsored by Q music magazine. They should have had Elijah's interview by now. Has anyone followed up on it yet? Is their a transcript, or recording of the interview on line anywhere ? :z:

BunnieBugs
02-14-2007, 03:51 PM
Has anyone heard anything about the 'cash for questions' that Bunnie posted earlier? (It's post #32 on page 2.) It sounds like one of those call in and ask the celebrity whatever. It was sponsored by Q music magazine. They should have had Elijah's interview by now. Has anyone followed up on it yet? Is their a transcript, or recording of the interview on line anywhere ? :z:I think that the interview will actually be a print interview in the magazine itself, but I could be wrong. I tried to check at Borders the other day, but they didn't have the magazine. Maybe the upcoming issue will have it?

tgshaw
02-14-2007, 05:44 PM
According to the magazine's website, the issue that came out February 1 has P Diddy as the "questions for cash" guy. Also according to the website, this is the March issue :confused: .

Elijah is still listed as upcoming, with a comment section beneath the blurb. I want to know which honorary aunt is posting there ;) :
Do you have any hope or intention of giving up smoking before it ruins your skin?

There are actually a few good questions among the comments (comparison between how he prepares for a role now and how he did it when he was a child), as well as some r-e-e-e-a-l-y stupid ones :rolleyes: . The one I'd nominate for the amigos' "Hoo, how long did it take you to come up with that one?!" reaction: "Do you have hairy feet?"

Shelbyshire
02-15-2007, 07:06 AM
This is a must, must see! I loved it!! This is Elijah on The Instant Talk Show done on the streets of New York and in a cab. Keep watching even after the host says thank you and the show appears over because they approach him as he's getting into a cab and end up riding along with him. There was a cap or two posted awhile back but the actual clip couldn't be viewed. The crew at elijah finds in LJ have "found" it as it appeared on the talk show's website. Anyways, enjoy!!!

http://www.instanttalkshow.com/

Just click on his episode's box, upper left corner.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/instanttalkshow2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/instanttalkshow27.jpg

Mechtild
02-15-2007, 07:57 AM
Thanks for the link, Shelbyshire! I hope Mariole and Peachy noticed that he said , quite seriously, that he might like to live in New Zealand. When the interviewer approached him at the cab and showed he meant to go with him, I thought EW looked a little put off, but he loosened up inside and didn't seem to have any regrets. I was tense for a minute, there, though.

~ M

Achila
02-15-2007, 08:00 AM
I wondered if that just was an act, Mech -- that seemed sort of "off" behavior for someone he'd just talked to fairly candidly on a street, of all places, and had told him he'd watched a DVD of the show and loved it.

Mechtild
02-15-2007, 08:06 AM
I thought it seemed that the interviewer approaching him again came as a surprise and not a welcome one, even though he covered it up with pleasant manners. I didn't think he seemed angry, just, not fully pleased at the prospect and/or the way the further interview was forced upon him by filming the request while it was made.

But you know better than I would, Achila, since you've seen far more interviews with him, filmed or in person. It was a good act, in any event! :)

~ M

Achila
02-15-2007, 08:11 AM
I would hardly call myself an expert, sweetie -- you could well be right, but considering Elijah's goofy sense of humor, you never know! ;)

Mechtild
02-15-2007, 08:17 AM
Well, you're an expert compared to me, lol! Any of you are! :p

~ M

tgshaw
02-15-2007, 08:33 AM
Is it acting, or is it real? Considering that we're talking about someone who could pass lie detector tests as the character he's playing, it would take an expert (at least).

*Sigh* I'm beginning to see a high-speed internet connection in my future... :eek: ;)

txtac
02-15-2007, 08:52 AM
Achila wrote: I wondered if that just was an act, Mech -- that seemed sort of "off" behavior...
That was no act. Elijah was honestly suprised and just wanted to leave. He was a good sport about putting up with that interviewer again, but you could tell that Elijah just wanted to get over to the recording studio and work on the Apples in Stereo music, not put up with that nitwit some more.

There were a couple of things that popped up over in LJ land concerning Elijah and clothes and whether the camera that he is holding is his, or not.
If you have been following Elijah for a while, at least since the end of the LOTR trilogy; you will know that evan Elijah calls himself a "clothes-horse."
Elijah is quite the amatuer photographer. He does own a Lica M-6 and a Cannon SD400. If he has bought another camera to replace his older SD400 I do not know about it- yet... this camera could be it. ??? He has been talking about wanting to get a newer camcorder for over two years. He finally broke down and bought a new one towards the end of last year. He has been talking about wanting to upgrade his Cannon SD400. This could be his new camera. ??? According to onsite reports, he has been taking a lot of pictures around the set.

honeyelf
02-15-2007, 10:18 AM
*Sigh* I'm beginning to see a high-speed internet connection in my future... :eek: ;)

A high-speed connection wouldn't help you with that website, I'm afraid. I've got a cable modem, and it still took me a half hour to watch what was probably 10 minutes long all told.

Some clever LJ user managed a way to upload it, so we can save it. I'm grabbing it right now, and i can save it to the greybook site if anyone wants. :)

honey!

Shelbyshire
02-15-2007, 10:29 AM
Some clever LJ user managed a way to upload it, so we can save it. I'm grabbing it right now, and i can save it to the greybook site if anyone wants. ;) I want! For the Faculty Library, of course.

I tried to save it from an upload over at elijah finds but all I got was the audio part, no visual. I even downloaded that one computer player that will play any and all file extensions. Yes, honey, I would love to save it. A site like that could disappear and we would never see that video again which would be a tragedy for any future research purposes.

BunnieBugs
02-15-2007, 11:30 AM
I think Elijah was first surprised and then a bit wary -- I think he was afraid that the guy would end up making him late, and knowing how much he hates being late, I imagine that's where his hesitation came from. Once they were in the cab and rolling, though, his reservations seemed to recede and he was fine with it.

It must be a bit different for him to have to deal with those sorts of surprises without his handy publicity agent (is that what they are called? Like the blonde woman that's always with him at premieres and press conferences and such?) there to intervene.

ceefour
02-15-2007, 12:32 PM
Happy Birthday, Wispy Wisteria!

Any news from the Faculty extras :cool: for The Oxford Murders?

C4

BLOSSOM
02-15-2007, 03:10 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/wispybday.jpg

Enjoy your day! :)

Any news from the Faculty extras for The Oxford Murders?

There are a couple of reports up in LJ land, Ceefour. Of the Faculty ladies, Eandme, wrote a short but lovely little piece on her initial impressions of Elijah - she was still in London at the time. I'm keeping my eye firmly on Shireling's and Brummie's LJs! ;) Any time now, I'm sure they will reveal all, and hopefuly share it with everyone here too! :)

Wispy_Wistaria
02-15-2007, 03:26 PM
*pops in quickly to say*

Thnx to ceefour and Blossom !!!!! :k
btw Blossom your Frodo is one of my favo pics :)

Shelbyshire
02-15-2007, 10:25 PM
Happy Belated Birthday, Wispy Wisteria!
Sorry I'm so late with my present. I hope you had a wonderful day!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/ElijahBW2.jpg


ETA: Just checked back at The Instant Talk Show site and they now have the episode with Robert from Apples in Stereo up. No mention of Elijah or Simian Records but it's still interesting.

Brummie
02-16-2007, 04:04 AM
Day 2

Our call time (you can see I’m learning the terminology) was 8am. Arriving a little early, and having been shown where to park, pretty much the first person I saw was Elijah, wearing jeans and a denim jacket, going into the wardrobe trailer. I felt that was a good omen for the day.

To say that the grounds of Harrow School are extensive would be an understatement. The main base of the film unit was in the playing fields car park and all that could be seen into the middle distance were football pitch after football pitch, a top of the range running track and a golf course. Today the extras had their own base in the sports hall. Catering was a notch down from Thursday, but to produce 400 bacon sandwiches all at once from a small catering van is no mean feat.

I met Eandme, who had come on one of the chartered buses from the centre of London, registered and went up into the sports hall which had been set up with long trestle tables and chairs. After some time Chris, the AD in charge of us extras, came in and jumped onto one of the tables and called for quiet. Immediate silence. It appeared that numbers were down on the 400 they had expected, in fact only 280 had turned up. If we knew anybody living reasonably near, please to phone and ask them to come. He explained the ground rules; firstly, for continuity’s sake please ask before going to the loo, secondly, the actors are working, please leave them alone and thirdly, no photos on set.

Finally, the word came to go on set. A stiff climb up the hill to the Speech Room, where Chris first asked who could come the next day. Then Dani, Alex’s main assistant went through picking people out. I was starting to get a bit worried as the email saying I was definite for the Wednesday seemed to be worthless, but my neighbour said I had been picked so that was good enough for me. The select 50, the hero extras, were sat in one block; the one Elijah would be in. I was put down at the front, next to Shireling and her husband as it turned out. While this was going on, there was all sorts of activity down at the front with lighting and screens and diffusers, tape measures, marking tape, cameras and trolleys. The wardrobe girl walked around checking our clothes and providing woolly cardigans and jumpers to cover anything deemed unsuitable.

The director called for quiet and announced that John Hurt and Elijah were on their way and asked that we applaud when they entered. A few minutes later when they came in John Hurt was obviously pleased at the reception. They were both pleased, but I got the impression that Elijah felt that the applause was mainly for John (or maybe that it ought to be mainly for John, or possibly that John would be happier if he behaved as if it were for him) and remained in the background while John thanked us.

Elijah roamed around the stage, taking pictures of the crew and us while preparations continued. His seat was pointed out and he bounded up the steps to take it. It was three rows back and directly behind me so impossible for me to look at, even when told to do so. (I made up for that the next day, though). Wardrobe and make-up made last checks on the actors and we were into the rehearsal of the scene as a whole. Alex was going to film our reactions first. It was not too hard as what was required was little more than our natural reactions to the acting, or so I thought. After a couple of rehearsals we were into “Quiet……rolling…….Scene 19, take 1…….Action”

Well, I suppose with 300 odd extras there will always be a few who forget what they are told, who can’t remove the flicker of a smile when they are supposed to be serious (puts up hand sheepishly), or who are tempted to look at the camera. Alex singled out one poor man for not looking at Elijah (though perhaps anybody foolish enough not to look at Elijah deserves a reprimand), but generally he was extremely patient. As were the actors, repeating takes with good humour. John Hurt was charming. Part of the time he was stood immediately in front of me and he was full of little asides for our amusement.

The scene was split up into sections, each of which was filmed from different angles, with extras being moved around so that in each shot most of the seats in the background were filled. Between shots Elijah would leave his place and go and sit at the side or chat to the wardrobe and make-up girls. Or disappear for a quick smoke outside.

The rest of the day was spent in much the same way. The cameras on the audience from different angles, the camera following behind John, the cameraman walking backwards on front of John. I found myself losing concentration towards the end of the day. By far the hardest thing was miming laughter or muttering with no sound, and in fact Alex abandoned that idea and had us laughing or muttering quietly instead. Some snippets or inserts were recorded of us laughing and muttering and lastly a sound recording was made of Elijah saying his first line in several different ways.

As we were dismissed John Hurt thanked us warmly for our contribution and even stayed behind to chat and sign autographs. Elijah, who had been approached for autographs at intervals all day, slipped away quietly, probably while everyone’s attention was taken with John’s speech.

Highlights of the day

As they prepared to shoot, after everybody was quiet, somebody behind me was tunefully whistling and it wasn't one of the extras.

Alex blowing kisses to Elijah across the room.

Watching Elijah moving around on the stage. He looked gorgeous (but you knew that anyway), and has the neatest bum I have ever seen. (Am I allowed to say that on the Faculty?)

ETA I felt that Elijah found it a bit of a strain, having to interact with the public at the same time as working. He was never overwhelmed with people and was left alone for much of the time but I think it meant that he could never entirely relax. Despite this, he was friendly and welcoming to everyone who approached him and willingly cooperated with requests for photographs. He even sang a falsetto "alleluia" when Alex desribed him as looking like God, silhouetted against the sunlight streaming in through the window behind him.

Mechtild
02-16-2007, 07:34 AM
SUPER post, Brummie, thanks so much. I was mystified hearing about the challenge to you extras of muttering and laughing soundlessly. I wonder what that was for?

~ M

ceefour
02-16-2007, 08:24 AM
Thanks, Brummie, for your detailed report.

C4

txtac
02-16-2007, 08:46 AM
Great Post Brummie. I'm Jealous! :lol:

More fun stuff brought to you by TORn...

Google Earth Gets KML Search for Middle Earth

2/15/07, 9:18 pm EST - Xoanon

A KML file can, for example, add data points to a Google Earth map of New Zealand that show where various scenes from the three 'Lord of the Rings' films were shot.
Google Earth has moved into a tighter orbit around Google search. Google Earth users can now search for specific geographic data layers, otherwise known as Keyhole Markup Language (KML) files, to create map overlays.

In a post on the Google Maps API Blog, Google Earth product manager Chikai Ohazama offers an example: Navigate to New Zealand in Google Earth and enter "Lord of the Rings" in the Google Earth search box. The result is a KML file that, when selected, adds data points to the map of New Zealand that show where various scenes from the three Lord of the Rings films were shot.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197006405&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All

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tgshaw
02-16-2007, 02:46 PM
Lovely report, Brummie!

And belated birthday wishes for Achila and Wispy.

Our receptionist moved away, and the new one who was hired just backed out, so I've been holding down double duty at the office for the last couple of weeks and into the foreseeable future. Not that that's an excuse for missing birthdays but, well, maybe it is... :o

txtac's post gives me the perfect opportunity ;) to point something out to those who subscribe to specific threads instead of seeing everything that's new on the board. There have been some changes made in order to consolidate some of the forums/subforums that have dropped in traffic since The Movies were released. You can see the announcement at the top of the Community Cafe board or follow this link: http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4136

The Cafe itself isn't affected, but there will be an effect on the Cafe (if that makes sense). The forum previously known as "The Trilogy" and the subforum previously known as "The Green Dragon" have been combined into one, all-purpose Tolkien forum (http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=41) (still separate subforums for books and movies, but the latter includes all Tolkien-related movies, including any news - or lack of - on The Hobbit).

Because the vast majority of people who post in the Community Cafe are also interested in Tolkien, an effort has been made to make the new forum easily accessible from the Cafe. If you use the "Forum Jump" menu at the bottom of this page, you can see the new arrangement. There have been some other consolidations, which you can also see in that menu: the Photo Forum has been moved into the Asylum as have the threads from the Mall and the Moria Times, and the rest of the Book Shop has been streamlined.

Up until now, you had to drill down a couple of layers in the Book Shop to find Tolkien book discussion, and the Tolkien movie discussion was separated into areas for each of the three LotR movies and had no place for discussion of any movies besides The Trilogy.

So, the deal is [puts on mod hat], now that it's so easy to post in the Tolkien forum, please use it. The only active threads in the Cafe that are specifically Tolkien-related are The Harem and Brandy Hall. Anything JRRT-related that doesn't fit in one of those threads should go into the Tolkien forum.

Because the Tolkien subforums were relatively hard to find (and, therefore, not very active), there hasn't been an effort to browbeat people into using them. But with everything combined in one place, if everyone puts their Tolkien stuff in the Tolkien forum, there should be enough "critical mass" to make it active and interesting. For example, txtac's latest post is a great visual aid ;) to show something that should now go into the "All Tolkien Movies" area. In fact, a "news" thread for stories like that one would probably be a great addition.

Of course, discussion of Elijah Wood's Frodo is still completely on topic in this thread, just as much as discussion of Casey or Stu or Martin. But anything non-EJW related should now go into the new forum. In fact, it will take everyone doing exactly that to get the new forum up and keep it running. IMHO, it would be sad to have a message board titled "Khazad-Dum" that didn't have a Tolkien forum, and if it weren't for The Quote Game that's exactly what we'd have right now.

So - Tolkienites Unite! Let's keep it going for another 50 years! :z: :cool: :k

--In an effort to keep any discussion or suggestions consolidated in one place, too, please follow the same link as posted above: http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4136 to the thread about the changes in the announcement forum. (Not surprisingly, Ezzie has already found it :cool: . As she points out in her post, the Cafe is now closer to the "center of action" in Rivendell and the Asylum, too.)

ETA: txtac's November 2006 post at the end of the (now) two-page thread on The Hobbit movie is the newest post in the Tolkien movies forum, so to see anything there, you have to change your settings to show threads from at least the last 100 days. If you change them to go back that far or farther, you can also see what spambots do to a forum that lies abandoned :( . It's a terrible thing... :(

Prim
02-16-2007, 09:29 PM
Fascinating post Brummie- I am soooo jealous! And also because you get to meet other faculty-ites!!

What's a spambot tg? I'm afraid I'm not very up on the techy stuff? :confused:

txtac
02-16-2007, 10:56 PM
No more Professor Tolkien in the Faculty Lounge?!? Boo, Hiss... :mad:

tgshaw
02-16-2007, 11:29 PM
Prim ( :k , BTW), spambots are wicked little spiders sent out by nasty e-marketers to infect message boards. There are always a few of them around that need to be swatted away by vigilant admins & mods, but when a forum sits unused for a long time they move in and take over (I think of them somewhat like those "appetizing" TV ads that show animated toenail fungus or mucous taking up residence). In the Tolkien movies forum, the spam threads themselves have been deleted, but you can still see some of the delightful names they had - usually having to do with erectile dysfunction or one of the other topics that email spam is filled with. (By the time you read this, those entries may have gotten cleaned up, too.)

txtac, the thing is -- If we have a little Professor Tolkien over here, and a little Professor Tolkien over there, pretty soon he's so divided up that no one knows where to look for him (which, actually, is pretty much what's happened). It's going to take some creativity and energy to get the Tolkien forum up to speed so that it draws in KDer's who spend most of their time in Rivendell or the Asylum, as well as Cafe dwellers. So roll up your sleeves - those news updates you're so good at finding can bring people in to read them, and hopefully stay to talk about them.

txtac
02-17-2007, 12:21 AM
TG wrote: If we have a little Professor Tolkien over here, and a little Professor Tolkien over there, pretty soon he's so divided up that no one knows where to look for him (which, actually, is pretty much what's happened). It's going to take some creativity and energy to get the Tolkien forum up to speed so that it draws in KDer's who spend most of their time in Rivendell or the Asylum, as well as Cafe dwellers.
That's what a "Community Cafe" is supposed to be about. Where anyone can stop by and talk about anything (within reason). The 'new' Tolkien section and subsections needs to be put in the Community Cafe. The Faculty Lounge is/was an adult place to have an intellectual conversation about E.W./Frodo/LOTR/Tolkien - the stuff that like minded people want to talk about. It's a 'one stop' conversations. Now you have me going in different directions to different places. I have no idea where to post some of the stuff- so I made my own places. :haha:

Does KD use the Dewey Decimal System?

If I post the same article in both the Tolkien and Faculty Lounge, will I be spanked?

I have 316 posts and only three green balls. The math doesn't add up here. I need another ball. Why green by the way? Can we change the color to brass? I'm a guy- remember? I need my two pair of dangling brass balls! :lol:

Brummie
02-17-2007, 11:22 AM
Day 3

Call time was 7.30 this morning, and because there are fewer of us we were given the same food as the cast and crew and our base was a converted bus like last Thursday. As it was raining, one of the coaches transported us to the set. It took just as long as walking, but at least we were dry.

Elijah and John Hurt arrived without fanfare today and Elijah treated us to a glimpse of milk-white calf as he pulled on what appeared to be a tubular bandage under the leg of his jeans. My first thought was that he had an injury but then I noticed the other leg was similarly attired. Maybe he wore them as legwarmers.

We shot Elijah’s close-ups and the shots of the stage from the audience POV. Two of the hero extras did not turn up, one of them quite crucial as he was sitting close to Elijah but Alex was not too perturbed. “We’ll just make the shot tighter.” After the first take of filming Elijah’s reactions to what John was saying, Alex began to slowly recap the start of the scene. He had only spoken a few words when Elijah knew exactly what he wanted his character to do and finished the sentence off for him. "Yep. Yep. We'll do it like that." Didn’t Alex say somewhere in his blog that Elijah could read his mind?

The change of scene to shoot towards the stage was going to take some time and one of the crew went up to Elijah and said something. Elijah ran down across the floor, bounded up onto the stage, leaned in to the turn (think Casey Connor without the skid) wove his way through the crew on stage and out of the door, an wonderful display of agility and grace. A few minutes later I almost walked into him, lurking in the shelter of the doorway outside with a cigarette. “I guess they’re letting everybody go to the loo now,” he said.

For the shots towards John Hurt on the stage I think many of the extras, myself included, believed that we could relax as we were not going to be on camera. Poor John not only had a nearly empty hall to lecture to but also a weak audience and was struggling. Of course, because there were fewer of us we needed to be more responsive, if anything and it would have helped if Alex had explained that to us at the beginning. But perhaps he had not realised how difficult John would find it. Once John got into his stride I think it was OK because we were moved right over to the side so that the cameras could be set up where we had been.

The seats behind the stage were occupied by a random selection from our group, dressed slightly differently (jacket/no jacket, scarf/no scarf, different cardigan etc), leaving the auditorium very sparsely populated. With Elijah sitting doing the crossword just across the gangway from me I was more than content just to watch and do my sudoku . At one point he was having problems with the French for “God” and I was ridiculously pleased to be able to help him out. “Perfect.” I love the way he says that.

Five professional extras had been engaged to play the part of senior academics sitting at the back of the stage. Watching them react was a revelation. Their actions were far slower and more deliberate than ours and it was clear that they will come across on camera far better.

I came back early after lunch and took some photos of the room. As they are slightly spoilery, I am linking them only.

The auditorium (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Firiel50/IMG_2672.jpg)
The stage ([URL=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Firiel50/IMG_2670.jpg)

Much of the afternoon was spent watching the rehearsals and filming as the camera moved in through a group of people, backs to the camera, which had to break apart to allow the camera to move forward. It took a few rehearsals to perfect and was finally done with the AD very quietly saying “First row break…..second……third. Then our final scene with Elijah, his gait as he exited showing exactly his character’s feelings and mood.

I wish I had been in a position where I could have seen more of his acting, but one cannot have everything. I am hoping someone with a better view (Eandme, where are you?) will have done that.

To think that just over a month ago all this was beyond my wildest imaginings.

Pelagia
02-17-2007, 11:41 AM
Brummie, your posts are wonderful. I am completely overwhelmed with envy (as in "green with"). :rolleyes: (Achila and ceefour: When PJ comes to Norristown to film The Lovely Bones, do you think we could insinuate ourselves as extras? No Elijah, but . . . .)

I found this in The Nation (leftish weekly), in their film critic’s column:
Let’s suppose you’re a member of the Academy – that is, someone who makes a living in the mainstream American [film] industry – and you’ve just filled in your nominating ballot for Best Picture. If you listed The Departed as your top choice, you voted for the year’s only big-studio movie that was both artistically respectable and a box-office hit. Seriously, there was just one. Had you wanted to find that combination in any other 2006 release, you would have had to pick Happy Feet.
I GUESS that’s a compliment! (Anyway, both of those movies are on MY top-five-of-2006 list.)

This week's Entertainment Weekly just arrived. In their Oscar predictions, they say, re the Best Animated Feature race:

People love penguins. But probably not enough for Happy Feet to outpace the actor-friendly Cars.Boo, hiss! (And Happy Feet wasn't "actor-friendly"??)

Achila
02-17-2007, 11:57 AM
Sadly, we all know why Cars is outpacing Happy Feet despite it's (Cars) lukewarm reviews -- it's American. :mad:

honeyelf
02-17-2007, 01:14 PM
With Elijah sitting doing the crossword just across the gangway from me I was more than content just to watch and do my sudoku . At one point he was having problems with the French for “God” and I was ridiculously pleased to be able to help him out.

Swoon! That's my fantasy! :cool:

Haven't had any luck with that Instant Interview thing yet. Will let you all know if I manage to get it to the greybook site.

honey!

Eandme
02-17-2007, 02:39 PM
Dear friends, I am back in Sweden and feeling rather exhausted, but very happy. I have posted an account or two to my LJ, and I tried to make them worthy of the Faculty ;) Please everyone feel free to wander in if you feel like it! I have the same username there, and nothing is friends-locked or anything.

As Brummie pointed out I was closer to Elijah during most of the filming, although sadly not close enough to talk to him. I did however have the chance to make some observations pertaining to his acting, and I mean to post those here in the near future. So...goodnight everyone! :k

Prim
02-17-2007, 02:43 PM
Two of the hero extras did not turn up, one of them quite crucial as he was sitting close to Elijah

Are these people COMPLETELY INSANE!!!!!! They get to be in a movie and they get to sit close to EW and they don't turn up!!!!! :eek:


Thanks for the explanation tg. It sounds gross. I wonder if these marketers actually ever get business this way? I had a problem with similar spam until my ISP nailed it, but I always just deleted everything without looking at it. Surely you'd think they'd give up the spam strategy and try something else? :confused:

Alyon
02-17-2007, 04:32 PM
I missed some birthdays!!
Happy Belated, Achila and Wispy!! Hope they were lovely!

Thank you for the wonderful report, Brummie. What a lovely experience!!

And, TG, I totally understand you doing your wonderful and utmost best to keep the rest of the forum alive and I applaud you for it--though I admit to being a bit lazy; like TxTac, I come only here to the Faculty to gather my news. But if I must be better, then I must. But...I might forget. :o


I'm loving hearing all th Oxford Murder reports, especially love how Alex LOVES Elijah (Thanks, Honey, for all the blog updates). I love how Elijah proves again and again that he is a person worth admiring.

Shelbyshire
02-17-2007, 07:59 PM
:) Happy thought for the day...

While browsing through songs by Apples in Stereo, a band signed by Simian Records which is owned by Elijah (which brings this on-topic ;)), I found that they did the theme song for the Powderpuff Girls called Signal in the Sky. I don't know how many times I listened to that since my girls were big fans of the cartoon in their younger days.

Just thought someone may get a smile out of that too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/250px-Ppg.jpg

ETA: I've enjoyed each and every one of the "Oxford Extra" posts both here and on LJ. Thank you so much for posting them! And yes, this is green because I am among those so jealous of you!! What an awesome experience. I doubt I'll ever be in TOL's presence.

honeyelf
02-18-2007, 02:18 AM
Singing along with Shelbyshire

...super super super power, super super super power

LET'S GO!

signal in the sky-o, something something and we have to fly-o,
signal in the SKY, oh oh oh oh

Brummie, EandMe, Shireling, I have one burning question. I must must know...

pen or pencil?

...as in, what implement does Mr. Wood use to do his crossword puzzles? ;)

honey! (Who needs to go to bed...)

ETA: NPR gave New Magnetic Wonder, the Apples in Stereo CD a very nice review. I sorta live and die by what NPR tells me, so I was very pleased. I'll bet Elijah, and the "Apples" are pleased too. You can listen to the review; just pop over to NPR.org, and search for "Apples in Stereo," its one of the top couple of links. Also, it's official: five out of four geeks in our family love the CD! *

*statistics may reflect genetically related individuals, or those with intent to become part of the family by marriage. ;)

whiteling
02-18-2007, 08:35 AM
Oh my God, all those OM reports have been such a delight to read!! Thank you, thank you, Ladies Brummie, Eandme and Shireling for letting us partake in the adventure of film making in general, and in working with Elijah in particular! It's incredible. :k


I doubt I'll ever be in TOL's presence.
Shelbs, there is always hope. :) Maybe, one day, you can see him in person. I'm crossing my fingers for you!

txtac
02-18-2007, 06:58 PM
Whiteling wrote: Shelbs, there is always hope. Maybe, one day, you can see him in person. I'm crossing my fingers for you!
How about working with and for him for five, or six days straight at SXSW in less than 30 days ! :eek:

...and no one bothered to ask him if he wanted me to be there wearing a simian suit. :o

Mechtild
02-18-2007, 07:47 PM
How about working with and for him for five, or six days straight at SXSW in less than 30 days !

Hey! I could be a bouncer!

ceefour
02-19-2007, 07:42 AM
Brummie, Eandme, and/or Shireling, any indications of a "Making of..." documentary when you were on the set? Thanks again for your reports. :)

Also, will a shot of EW backlit against the window that the director commented on be in the movie or was that between scenes? I only ask for research purposes, of course, so that my checklist of what to watch for when seeing the movie is detailed and complete. So far, I have

C4's List

1-Look for Brummie.
2-Look for Eandme.
3-Look for Shireling.
4-Look for shot of EW "...looking like God, silhouetted against the sunlight streaming in from the window behind him."

C4

Mechtild
02-19-2007, 08:38 AM
4-Look for shot of EW "...looking like God, silhouetted against the sunlight streaming in from the window behind him."
Ha! I want to see that shot, too.

I've often thought that when it comes to gods, EW's Frodo would make a fine Eros. But I have a feeling that's not the God Alex de la Iglesia was referring to. Maybe he was comparing EW to his film's saviour, because of his cheerful, gracious, peaceful ways? Such an attitude could have a very salutary effect on a film set.

~ Mechtild :)

Brummie
02-20-2007, 06:33 PM
Honey,to put your mind at rest,pen or pencil? It had a clip which he clipped over the newspaper pages so I'm guessing it was probably a pen.
CeefourAlso, will a shot of EW backlit against the window that the director commented on be in the movie or was that between scenes? I'm pretty sure that it or something like it is intended to be in the film and that he was sat in that position in order to obtain that effect. The writer of another report noticed that big lights were set up outside the room on the second day to simulate sunshine for the shots of Elijah.
any indications of a "Making of..." documentary when you were on the set? Sadly, not. There was a stills photographer but no video.

Mechtild wrote Maybe he was comparing EW to his film's saviour Much more likely. In his blog, he describes Elijah as a "pillar of marble", helpful and supportive of him and the other actors and utterly reliable.

Shelbyshire wroteI doubt I'll ever be in TOL's presence. Don't give up hope. Remember, this chance came to us competely unexpectedly, out of the blue. As Elijah himself said (can't remember where) "Dream the impossible, because dreams do come true"

Shelbyshire
02-20-2007, 10:29 PM
Thank you for all the "hopeful" thoughts! I'll keep my fingers crossed and my toes and...:z:

Instead of a research report, I'd like to contribution two new pics posted from The Oxford Murders over at elijah finds in LJ. I've never read the book so I'm not sure what constitutes a spoiler or not. Let me know if I do post one and I'll take it down (or a mod). Enjoy...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/img_preCAZ19TKZ-83.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/img_preCA83CVE3-84.jpg

honeyelf
02-21-2007, 01:14 AM
Honey,to put your mind at rest, It had a clip which he clipped over the newspaper pages so I'm guessing it was probably a pen.


SQUEE! He does his crossword in ink, too! Surely a sign of a strong mind, and a willingness to commit to that which he believes in, don't you think? ;) I wonder if he ends up with squares that have been inked over so many times they're almost solid, too? :lol:

Thanks for the answer, Brummie! :k

honey!

ETA: Shelbyshire, I think that guy in the second pic is from wardrobe, don't you? Wonder what the hot water bottle is for? Do you suppose Elijah has it under his clothes to keep warm? He sure doesn't have much 'built-in insulation' these days!

Shelbyshire
02-21-2007, 06:30 AM
From elijah finds/LJ:Elijah on Biography

DOCUMENTARY: Elijah Wood
Channel: Biography Channel 242
Date: Tuesday 13th March 2007
Time: 00:00 to 00:30 (starting in 19 days)
Duration: 30 minutes.

Trace the meteoric rise of Elijah Wood from child actor to superstardom in the Lord Of The Rings trilogy and baddie in Sin City. His versatility has seen him storm the A-list.

(Premiere, 2006) Has this been seen already since it says Premiere, 2006? Is it new? I haven't checked any websites to verify the info and I don't have television in my house. I have a tv but we just watch movies, some more than others ;). Betcha can't guess which ones!!

Honey, it appears to be a wardrobe person and the hot water bottle may be a possible clue or something maybe? Also, I haven't checked the Grey Book site...were you able to get The Instant Talk Show uploaded?

BunnieBugs
02-21-2007, 08:58 AM
Shelbyshire, I'm pretty sure that this Biography show is new. I'm not sure what the "Premiere 2006" means, but maybe the show was listed in Premiere magazine in a 2006 issue? I guess we'll see, come March 13.

Also on the books is an appearance on Graham Norton tomorrow night (the 22nd), and then in some sort of show that Graham does on Sunday, the 25th. Here is the info, again courtesy of elijah_finds:

ENTERTAINMENT: Graham Norton
Channel: BBC 2 102
Date: Thursday 22nd February 2007
Time: 22:00 to 22:30 (starting in 1 day)
Duration: 30 minutes.



ENTERTAINMENT: Graham Norton Uncut
Channel: BBC 2 102
Date: Sunday 25th February 2007
Time: 23:55 to 00:40 (starting in 4 days)
Duration: 45 minutes.

The second one is apparently an extended version of the first one, including material that didn't air in the first one. I hope someone can snag these to share! :z:

ceefour
02-21-2007, 03:13 PM
I just finished listening to an interview on XMRadio with George Miller, the director of Happy Feet. Andrew Lesnie* invited George Miller over to New Zealand to show Miller what was being accomplished with motion capture on Gollum. And it seems Miller heard about EW from Lesnie. In the interview, Miller stated Lesnie described EW as having "a gentle quality, but with a real steel and strength."

C4

*edited because Pelagia pointed out that Lesnie was not the DoP for Happy Feet. His name was listed on the end credits, but we can't remember for what. :rolleyes: We'll have to wait for the DVD.

Mechtild
02-21-2007, 03:37 PM
Miller stated Lesnie described EW as having "a gentle quality, but with a real steel and strength."
Awwwwwww....!!!! *bursts into tears of pride*


Thanks for posting that, Ceefour. I always did love Andrew Lesnie of the Wild Hair.


~ Mechtild :k

Eandme
02-21-2007, 04:10 PM
[QUOTE=honeyelf]

Brummie, EandMe, Shireling, I have one burning question. I must must know...

pen or pencil?

...as in, what implement does Mr. Wood use to do his crossword puzzles? ;)

Sorry, didn't pay attention to that. Will I fail my Elijah exam this term? :(
As for the backlit Elijah happening...alas, that was between shots. Though, of course something of that phenomenon might be seen in the movie if Alex decided he wanted it. It was sort of happening a bit during the filming, so if he kept that... *fingers crossed*

shireling
02-22-2007, 10:46 AM
Sorry, didn't pay attention to that. Will I fail my Elijah exam this term?
Don't worry EandMe - I failed that question too!! I was too busy watching the face :D Btw - if anyone who hasn't read my report would like to, it's on my LJ where I go by the name of Not Alone. An amazing, unforgettable experience :)

Originally Posted by ceefour
Miller stated Lesnie described EW as having "a gentle quality, but with a real steel and strength."

What a perfect description of our Elijah:) One of my favourite Andrew Lesnie memories is at the 2002 Oscars. He was on his way to the stage to collect his award and stopped to give Elijah a hug after the other LOTR award winners (think it was the hair people) had walked straight past him :)

Not sure if this has already been posted but we already have release dates for 'The Oxford Murders'. I thought a film needed to get a distributor before release dates could be decided on, but perhaps I'm wrong.

Spain 26 October 2007
UK 23 November 2007
USA 14 December 2007
Germany 3 January 2008
Morocco 18 January 2008
Mexico 7 March 2008

honeyelf
02-22-2007, 11:14 AM
What a perfect description of our Elijah:) One of my favourite Andrew Lesnie memories is at the 2002 Oscars. He was on his way to the stage to collect his award and stopped to give Elijah a hug after the other LOTR award winners (think it was the hair people) had walked straight past him :)


Doesn't EJW say his hair "has a mind of its own"? You never know; the hair may throw fits, and have a reputation of being "difficult" on set! ;)

Nevermind me. I'm very silly today.

I read your report. Lots more detail than I think most people gave. Without being spoilery, too.

BTW, I haven't posted any new Alex blog entries because most of the ones coming out now are deemed to be potential spoilers by the folks posting them. I don't want to be spoiled! I had hoped, when Alex began posting, that he would remember that he won't sell many movie tickets if he gives away too much in his blog. Alas, he doesn't seem to be a man who is good at keeping secrets. So if somebody else wants to take over the job, and mark the spoilery stuff...Or maybe we can have a Faculty first, and all avoid being spoiled together! :rolleyes:

Shelbyshire said: Also, I haven't checked the Grey Book site...were you able to get The Instant Talk Show uploaded?
No. :o In fact I kind of forgot about it! :o Look who's fandom card is next to be revoked! My IT guy/hubby/helperbrain is not available to navigate the necessary arcana today. :confused: Soon, i hope? :(

honey~

Skater girl
02-22-2007, 04:41 PM
I just watched Elijah on Graham Norton, and it was really nice to see him on a chat show for once when he is not jet lagged or exhausted on a promotional tour and having to give the expected spiel.

His labels' new band performed live and I find I really don't share his taste in music. The Sunday show is an uncut version of tonight's, and I'm really looking forward to that.

I have it taped, but I have no idea how to get it on-line, so hopefully someone else will be able to post it for the non UK people to see.

BunnieBugs
02-22-2007, 06:05 PM
I have it taped, but I have no idea how to get it on-line, so hopefully someone else will be able to post it for the non UK people to see.
It is available for download or podcast here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/grahamnortonshow/podcast/podcast.shtml) on the Graham Norton Show website. I have no idea what the difference is between the podcast and the download... I'm in the process of downloading now, myself. :cool:

EDIT: Okay, the download is apparently just "extras" that weren't on the show.

Brummie
02-24-2007, 03:45 PM
If anyone has not heard the interview on the Jo Whiley show yesterday, in which Elijah talks about working with John Hurt, learning lines, the role he is most proud of and feeling as if he is an honorary Brit, I have put it up here (http://www.yousendit.com/download/UFh1WmdqQ0N6NE41VEE9PQ) for download.
He also says that filming for the Oxford Murders will continue for another 4 weeks (or maybe that was on Graham Norton?) so unless he gets some time off, those who were hoping to see him at SXSW will be disappointed.

Achila
02-24-2007, 04:06 PM
Thanks for posting that, Brummie. Interesting that he called the film The Oxford Crimes. Was that changed?

txtac
02-24-2007, 04:19 PM
There is another Oxford Murders on-set report with a new picture of Elijah here: http://www.cfmmusicscene.com/elijah/oxfordmurdersreport.htm

:cool:

Mechtild
02-24-2007, 05:10 PM
Brummie, that Jo Whiley interview was a real delight. Thanks so much for posting it. :k What a doll.

If anyone sees a written transcript of that somewhere on the net, I would love a copy of it. Please link? :z:


~ Mechtild

ceefour
02-25-2007, 08:50 PM
Happy Feet Won!!!! Yes!!!!!

C4

Achila
02-25-2007, 08:54 PM
ceefour, show a little excitement, wouldja? ;)

Shelbyshire
02-25-2007, 09:49 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~ :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wonderful news, ceefour!

;) Have you called Elijah to let him know?

tgshaw
02-26-2007, 08:09 AM
http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/1ad8e1d0.jpg

One thing to make me glad I haven't had time to update my site! When Cars started picking up awards, I thought about taking out my statement about HF being a shoo-in for the Oscar, but never got around to it. ;) :haha: :cool:

Achila
02-26-2007, 08:19 AM
Well...Lij has quite the record now, doesn't he? LOTR, then ESOTSM and now Happy Feet...maybe someday...? ;)

wood
02-26-2007, 08:28 AM
Hi all :cool:

First i whant to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY to all i missed and then i whant to say


happy birthday elijah
i dident miss ur birthday i spent in front of my computer looking at old clips i have got years ago from dear friends of me
hugs Blossom

I know i havent been around here in months. but i just hade to tell u this.
yeaster day me and my middlegirl looked at happy feet . she looked at me when elijhas voice came on ,she dident know he made one of the voices.
she said to me mom i know that voice who is it. i said look at mumbles eyes and listen. she said mom its elijah !!!!!!!!!!! look at the eyes they are just like his !!!!!!

maybe this is old stuff and not in the air any more in here. but i staryted to wondering

did they made mumble after elijah or wht ?????

i loved that movie it was very good

and it got on oscar tonight CONGRATS ELIJAH :k :k :k

LOVE YOU ALL WOOD

sneaking
02-26-2007, 01:36 PM
I was so bored with this year's Oscar race, I didn't even bother to check what the results were when I got up. What a pleasant surprise! And I loved Scorcese getting an Oscar (even if the Departed is merely OK Scorcese).

After all the awards Cars was getting (e.g. the Annies), I thought it was over. It's great to be proved a completely wrong wrong wrong person.

:cool:

BLOSSOM
02-26-2007, 01:55 PM
WOOD!!! How are You? It's great to 'see' you again.:k

Isn't Mumble delightful?

Sneaking - I was also very pleasantly surprised at the Oscar for Happy Feet. Great news. :cool: :)

Brummie - Thanks for the download of Elijah's interview with Jo Whiley. I had recorded it, but hadn't converted it into MP3 format, so I snagged yours! :)

And a huge thank you to Brummie, Eandme and Shireling for sharing your Oxford Murders experience with us all. :k

whiteling
02-27-2007, 04:57 AM
Hey! Elijah the music nut strikes up a brisk ditty for your birthday, Bunnie! Yeehaw! :) ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/FransHalsbuffonElijah.jpg

Jester with a Lute, 1620–1625, by Frans Hals, Belgian-Flemish painter (1580-1666)


~~~~~~~~~~

Hurrah on the Oscar for Happy Feet!! (Great picture, Tg! :D)

Hugs and kisses to Wood! :k And hugs for all the Faculty :)

ceefour
02-27-2007, 08:05 AM
Happy Birthday, BunnieBugs!

Hello to wood!

Mumble is the only character in Happy Feet who resembles the actor. In the George Miller interview that aired on Cinemagic last week, he stated he did not want the audience to watch the movie and be able to imagine the actors recording their parts in the studio. That Mumble is so clearly EW (at least to us Faculty members) disputes that. But George Miller needed the hero to be easily identifiable, especially in a crowd of 400,000 penguins. Maybe the DVD, with lots of extras :z: , will explain this further.

I didn't notice that adult Mumble was EW right away, but when I did, I remember thinking, "Oh my gosh, it's him!" And it's all there: the eyebrow and jawline acting (Quite an achievement since penguins have neither; how does he do that? ;) ), the angst, and the cloak, er, feather action.

Happy Feet is my favorite movie of last year. I saw quite a few movies with Achila and Pelagia and while I liked them all for various reasons, Happy Feet is just special. The songs, the score, the choreography, the animation, and the story all melded into something grand and wonderful. For me, anyway. :o

C4

Mechtild
02-27-2007, 11:53 AM
Whiteling!!! That is just sensational! :eek: What a super job you did manipping that -- it's a great match of face to painting, and you finessed it so well!!!!

Huzzah!!!!!

~ Mechtild

Achila
02-27-2007, 04:22 PM
Happy Birthday, BunnieBugs!

And ceefour, you have to admit, the actor who supplied Mumble's voice had something to do with it too! ;)

ETA: Here's Mumble's Oscar opening: http://www.sean-astin.net/video/79th%20Academy%20Awards%20Intro.mp4

Mechtild
02-27-2007, 05:34 PM
P.S. I was so wowed over Whiteling's minstrel I forgot to say.....


Happy Birthday, Bunnie!!!!

And great to see you, wood -- yes, Mumbles really had a lot of EW in him, not just the voice. Your daughter has got a keen ear for the One Voice (takes after her mother!).

~ Mechtild :)

tgshaw
02-27-2007, 08:59 PM
Still working two jobs, but running in long enought to say Happy Birthday, Bunnie!

... and waves to wood!

Hugs to you both :cool:
http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/1d2fac00.jpg

BLOSSOM
02-28-2007, 07:47 AM
Apologies for this being a day late, Bunnie, but KD was being difficult for me last night when I attempted to post your birthday greeting. :confused: But it's here now, and it looks to me as though Elijah is just about to say 'Bunnie!'

Hope you enjoyed your day. :)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/BunnieBD.jpg

And for today's birthday girl:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/peaceweaverbd.jpg

Have a lovely time. :)

Whiteling - I agree with Mechtild - that's a terrific manip!

It's nice to see you too, Tg. I admit I'm missing the regular updates to Frodolivesin.us, but as you're working TWO jobs, I'll forgive you! ;) How is your adopted kitty?

Wispy_Wistaria
02-28-2007, 01:17 PM
Hurray for Happy Feet :) and
belated birthdaywishes to Bunniebugs!!! :k
Something drop dead gorgeous for ya:


http://www.waposdecine.com/elijahwood/ew09g.jpg


now I'm really off to bed *sneezes*

Shelbyshire
02-28-2007, 03:39 PM
KD wouldn't even show up for me...:(...just an error page.

Happy Belated Birthday, Bunnie!

A belated present...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Black_Ball_001953.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/radio1london-4clean.jpg

And, since I know Bunnie has already seen this next one ( ;) ) this will be a present for peaceweaver.

Happy Birthday, peaceweaver!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/mexican_shoot1_clean.jpg

BunnieBugs
02-28-2007, 03:44 PM
Thank you for the birthday wishes and the pics, everyone! And Whiteling, your manip is an inspired and delightful masterpiece. :D Thank you!

And while I'm here:

Happy birthday, Peaceweaver! Hope you're having a great day!

ceefour
02-28-2007, 04:45 PM
Finally! Haven't been able to get here in two days.

Happy Birthday, Peaceweaver! :)

Yes, Achila, the fact that Hugh Jackman was the voice for Memphis in Happy Feet certainly influenced my feelings for the film; he does have a great voice! Oh wait, you wrote Mumble...isn't he that guy from Deep Impact?

C4

tgshaw
02-28-2007, 06:34 PM
Happy Birthday, Peaceweaver!

If I was at home I might be able to find a good smilng Elido pic - but since I'm at the office it will have to be Frolijah. Sweet dreams. :k

http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/2ccce350.jpg

peaceweaver
03-01-2007, 09:55 PM
Many, many thanks for the kind B-Day wishes for a truant such as myself. I've been so busy with stuff that I haven't had the time to come by and chat! And now the Lounge is on #15????

Happy Birthday to anyone I neglected, and big kisses to everyone else!

Yes, that would include Elwood, if I were so lucky ;)

White Gull
03-03-2007, 03:57 PM
Wow, visiting this thread is like having a birthday nearly every day. Thank you so much for all the lovely pictures and discussion!

WG

Brummie
03-06-2007, 04:51 PM
Having been on holiday in Egypt for a week and just missed the Oscars, it is great to come back and find that Happy Feet won, especially after it seemed that all the betting was on Cars.

Brilliant manip, Whiteling. It is gorgeous and so well blended in.

txtac
03-08-2007, 12:09 PM
Anyone know when the Oxford Murders will finish shooting?

Iggy Pop and The Stooges will be playing at Stubbs BBQ, Austin TX. March 17th. We all know how much TOL loves the BBQ in Austin (he claims that it is the best in the world... :D ). Sometime in 2007 he IS going to be playing Iggy Pop in the Iggy Pop biopic. So lets see now: Iggy pop in person, BBQ, SXSW, think that TOL might show up there? :z:

sneaking
03-08-2007, 01:02 PM
Anyone know when the Oxford Murders will finish shooting?

Iggy Pop and The Stooges will be playing at Stubbs BBQ, Austin TX. March 17th. We all know how much TOL loves the BBQ in Austin (he claims that it is the best in the world... :D ). Sometime in 2007 he IS going to be playing Iggy Pop in the Iggy Pop biopic. So lets see now: Iggy pop in person, BBQ, SXSW, think that TOL might show up there? :z:

It'd be a nice idea but I think they've still got 3 weeks to go. It's sounds like the Oxford exteriors are being done last so he will be needed for those. So, unless he goes for a crazy bonkers flying visit (not impossible!), I can't see it happening even if he really wants it.

Shelbyshire
03-09-2007, 06:34 AM
Remember that post awhile back about Elijah being on the Biography Channel, well it's the one in the UK. Here's the info from a post at LJ (bellewood from elijah finds). Hopefully someone will be able to tape it or it just may show up here on the US channel.Elijah on Biography Channel
Elijah is on the Sky Biography channel (ch.161) on Tuesday 13th March at 9pm til 9.30pm.

This is what the Information about the show says:

"Trace the meteoric rise of Elijah Wood from child actor to superstardom in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy and baddie in Sin City. His versatility has seen him storm the 'A' list.."

For those at ORC today...say "Hi" to Billy for us!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/20011219WellingtonFOTR10RobertCatto.jpg

Mechtild
03-09-2007, 08:35 AM
Remember that post awhile back about Elijah being on the Biography Channel, well it's the one in the UK.

Thanks, Shelbyshire. Now I don't feel so bad about not having Premium Cable (which has the Biography Channel in our area). :p

~ M

Brummie
03-09-2007, 09:03 AM
There's an Iggy Pop article in The Times here (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article1488636.ece) which mentions The Passenger. This description of Iggy's stage performance at its best,
Within the first six months of the group’s existence he had surpassed even his beloved Jim Morrison when it came to evoking a disturbing but deeply thrilling sense of surreal menace while exhibiting all the raw sensuality and daredevil athleticism of James Brown. gives me a reason to look forward to it. What concerns me is how far the film will go show Iggy's less pleasant stage antics and how much of that I really want to see.

Shelbyshire
03-09-2007, 03:23 PM
ETA: I just noticed this is not a recent article or caricature but is from December 2005. No matter...I don't recall seeing it (could be a senior moment) but did get quite a laugh out of it.

A recent "find" from roqui @ elijah finds/LJ...

I just copied and pasted the article until I figure out how to do a link. In the second pic, Iggy is, of course, the blond in the lower left corner.Stacked Actors:

Elijah Wood as Iggy Pop and Other Questionable Castings

By Randy Harward (HARP Magazine)

It was hard to imagine Jamie Foxx (a man whose shtick was playing "Snaps" with Al Bundy on In Living Color--"Your momma's so fat, the back of her neck looks like a package of hot dogs," remember?) as one of the greatest singers of all time, Ray Charles. And then--Oscar! But that's just not gonna happen when Elijah Wood plays Iggy Pop.

Iggy Pop is a feral, sinewy, around-the-block-in-60-seconds beast. Elijah Wood is a cute little forest creature; you wanna keep him in your pocket and feed him goldfish crackers ("My preciousssss!"). Even if Wood partied like Keith Richards and dieted like Calista Flockhart, he'd still come out cute as a button. So he might make a good Conor Oberst (hell, he'd make Princess Fey look positively butch)--but Iggy? We just can't see it anymore than we can see these hypothetical--but, in these days, probable--miscastings.

Rock Star: Iggy Pop
Miscast: Elijah Wood

Scene We Can't Wait to See: 1970 at Cincinnati, smearing peanut butter on his bare chest. Sexy!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/elijahasiggycm1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Iggy7.jpg

Mechtild
03-09-2007, 06:13 PM
Shelbyshire, that bottom picture is great! Boy, does that capture the period!

~ M

honeyelf
03-10-2007, 01:59 AM
A clever little friend of ours (who shall remain nameless to protect the not-so-innocent :rolleyes: ;) ) found a couple of great new promo pics for Day Zero.

This one might be for the poster?:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/416224120_a4c9ce644e_o.jpg

And this beauty! Obviously Aaron Feller is going to go to a very dark place. Imagine that!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/416224119_bdb331bc77_o.jpg

honey!

ETA: Obviously the shortsighted folks who wrote the snippet that Shelbyshire posted immediatley above haven't seen these pictures yet! "Cute as a button"? Ha! His Aaron Feller looks plenty "feral" enough to be capable of all sorts of unexpected acts, doesn't he? *shiver*

Brummie
03-11-2007, 06:43 AM
honeyelf wrote
His Aaron Feller looks plenty "feral" enough to be capable of all sorts of unexpected acts, doesn't he? Absolutely right. One would need to be in a constant state of alertness with him around.

At Mechtild's prompting I am posting this (http://archives.cbc.ca:80/IDC-1-68-102-761/arts_entertainment/punk/and) . It is a 9 minute television interview with Iggy Pop dating from 1977, which is possibly a little later than The Passenger will go, but I can see EW as this off-stage persona of Iggy. Iggy's voice is a little lower than EW's but achievable, in speech at least.

However, the bitten finger nails could be a problem ;)

Mechtild
03-11-2007, 08:42 AM
Oh, thanks, Brummie, for posting that TV show. What would Iggy be in that; thirty years old? No. The interview took place a couple of months before his birthday. He looks younger than twenty-nine, which is amazing considering what he'd gone through by then, health-wise. Just smoking cigarettes (as he was trying to do on the show) would be a "health regime" for him. Poor Peter Gzowski -- what a trial Iggy looked to interview! I thought Gzowski was very gracious interviewing a very difficult subject. Anyway, now I know where I can find this clip again. Woo hoo!

Watching that interview was the first time I felt able to imagine EW playing Iggy Pop. The way he moves, the gestures, the look, all seem within range for EW, besides learning that, as the 70's concert-goer commented, Iggy is not tall (which is what I had thought from his photos), but short. In fact, "a tiny little man".

Re-excited over the project, I just re-read the Rolling Stone interview ( "Igg's Trail of Destruction" (http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/iggypop/articles/story/5937621/iggys_trail_of_destruction) ). There is great material for loads of good (funny, outrageous, or moving) scenes and dialogue in there.

But tell me, Brummie. It is said The Passenger is going to be about young Iggy. Do you know more about the time frame? Will it include his big crash-and-burn and subsequent revival via the help of David Bowie?

Bunnie, I loved those shots from Day Zero. I think the solo shot looks positively Sacrificial Sufferer-like. But we already know how good he is at looking like that. What made you think "feral" - is it the eyes? I was wondering if he was wearing contacts, since his eye colour looks so different from his usual; much lighter -- like a sled dog, as someone opined on LJ. Anyway, the effect is to make his face more other-worldly for me -- although I can see how the light eyes might make his face look other-species ("feral"), too. ("Woof!") ;)

~ Mechtild

Shelbyshire
03-11-2007, 01:11 PM
Mechtild...Watching that interview was the first time I felt able to imagine EW playing Iggy Pop. The way he moves, the gestures, the look, all seem within range for EW, besides learning that, as the 70's concert-goer commented, Iggy is not tall (which is what I had thought from his photos), but short. In fact, "a tiny little man". From this picture, he does appear small. The date says June, 1972.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/ReedMR018002700.jpg

Mechtild
03-11-2007, 01:33 PM
Thanks, Shelbyshire! :) I just posted that photo in a thread in Elijah_finds, but didn't know the date. I'm going to note it in my file.

I noted in the Elijah_finds comment that when looked up in data bases, David Bowie (on the left) is listed at 5' 10". Lou Reed, on the right, is listed variously as 5' 5" (surely an error), 5' 8", and 5' 11". Whatever Lou Reed's height (he looks almost the height of David Bowie to me - maybe their platform shoes have different heel-heights, lol), Iggy is clearly the shortest (and tiniest) of the three.

~ M

Brummie
03-11-2007, 01:48 PM
Mechtild, Thanks for pointing out that Rolling Stone article. I hadn't seen it before. It is very informative and thhis in particular caught my eye.
A friend of his once said, "He's wounded, brilliant, fragile but made of steel, insane, demented,"

"You know," Nina says after a while, "I love Iggy Pop, and I respect him, but I don?t think I could live with him. But Jim, Jim is sweet and peaceful and romantic; when we're having dinner or making love, that's Jim, and sometimes I'll catch him just looking at the trees and birds. It's endearing and almost childlike, just the way he looks at the world with those big eyes.
It's beginning to be clear why they chose EW to play Jim and I am guessing he showed them he could play Iggy.

It is said The Passenger is going to be about young Iggy. Do you know more about the time frame? Will it include his big crash-and-burn and subsequent revival via the help of David Bowie?
Most of my knowledge of Iggy Pop has been acquired over the last couple of days. I'm desperately trying to remember what EW said about the film; I think he said that it takes Iggy to the start of his solo career. That would make sense; the dramatic arc would be similar to Walk the Line, but in spades.

Mechtild
03-11-2007, 03:07 PM
Thanks, Brummie.

I'm desperately trying to remember what EW said about the film; I think he said that it takes Iggy to the start of his solo career. That would make sense; the dramatic arc would be similar to Walk the Line, but in spades.
I don't know about more than you do, Brummie, I am guessing. He had a number of break-downs followed by comebacks. I have no idea where they'd close the film. On something more "up", I suppose, since Iggy does seem truly much better at sixty than he was in his twenties and thirties.

Yeah, that article in R. S. was something! But I thought that TV interview you linked was the most encouraging thing I've seen in terms of being able to imagine EW in the role. Iggy admitted in the [1977 TV] interview that he'd been through some dark days and been a pretty unlikeable person during them, but that he'd recovered. If he had, it seemed to me from that interview he was hanging onto recovery by his fingernails. He seemed brittle to me; about to break apart, and conflicted, making it almost impossible to give a straight answer to the questions -- saying he didn't need audiences for affirmation then, several times, calling on the TV studio audience to back him up on something he'd said. He seemed to alternate between bombastic contempt and projecting an aura of fragility so strong, I wondered if that wasn't the reason the interviewer trod so lightly with him. He wasn't just afraid Iggy would make a scene, he was afraid Iggy might actually crack up, pathetically, right in front of him.

ETA: Iggy was the one who seemed afraid, actually. It was more than nervousness. His interviewer did what he could to calm him, keeping his manner reassuring while trying to ask the questions. Iggy looked like he might bolt at any minute. I have never been as ill-at-ease watching an interview. I didn't bolt, of course, because I was watching it trying to imagine EW acting it.
Watching Iggy relate--or not--to the interviewer, Peter Gzowski, reminded me of when I was a substitute teacher's aide in a class for emotionally challenged high school students. Every kid in the class was a boy, all of them ejected from "normal" classes for out of control surly or physically aggressive behaviour. Many of them acted like Iggy in that interview, with huge mood swings and warring messages: rage and self-pitying whining; goofy, even self-deprecating humour and an intense desire to be respected and valued; almost palpable psychic fragility, but uttering mostly contempt for everyone and everything else -- the gamut. I was not suited to this work, unable to keep from taking all the insults and abusive behaviour personally. But the teacher was like interviewer: patient, going the extra mile to try to understand the message under the message, always polite and gracious.

I think EW could be great handling the challenge of playing young Iggy, but he will need to work at it like mad, throw himself into it body and soul, and receive excellent direction. Whether this happens is something else. I am not convinced EW has the passion for this sort of performance work. He's always throwing the word about: "passion". He's got a "passion" for music, a "passion" for clove cigarettes, or for the films of Jimmy Stewart. But I'm not sure he has a passion for acting. It's just something he's really good at and that he's had the opportunity to do. I hope I'm wrong, of course.

~ Mechtild

Shelbyshire
03-11-2007, 09:18 PM
Thanks, Shelbyshire! I just posted that photo in a thread in Elijah_finds, but didn't know the date. I can't locate the thread your mentioning. Which one is it?

ETA: Never mind. I just read the exchange between you and roqui regarding "packages". Iggy's compared to Elijah's. Yup...that's enough for one night.

However, one cannot post words only...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Iggy13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Iggy14.jpg

Mechtild
03-11-2007, 09:50 PM
I just read the exchange between you and roqui regarding "packages".
Tattletale. ;)

No, not that post; it was the one Brummie started. I'll send you a link that opens to the comments with the pics, because the thread now has so many comments they're hidden.

P.S. Those Iggy shots you posted are really excellent. Good finds!

~ Mechtild

honeyelf
03-12-2007, 02:38 AM
Bunnie, I loved those shots from Day Zero. I think the solo shot looks positively Sacrificial Sufferer-like. But we already know how good he is at looking like that. What made you think "feral" - is it the eyes? I was wondering if he was wearing contacts, since his eye colour looks so different from his usual; much lighter -- like a sled dog, as someone opined on LJ. Anyway, the effect is to make his face more other-worldly for me -- although I can see how the light eyes might make his face look other-species ("feral"), too. ("Woof!") ;)

It was indeed Bunnie who unearthed those pictures (she's certaintly got a nose for finding goodies), but it was me that called Aaron Feller "feral," so I'll spare Bunnie trying to answer for me. ;) What I see that's feral in that picture is the way he's knotted up, perhaps holding in rage or despair or both. You can see it in his forehead, and the clenched muscles around his mouth. He looks like he'd fight desperately, or run screaming, and only a fool would push him to find out which he'd do. As the saying goes, I wouldn't want to meet him in an alley.

Thanks, Brummie, for the link to the Iggy interview. He seem's uncomfortable, like he feels he's expected to project a certain image, but it keeps shifting away from him. He doesn't seem to have a clear idea of what he wants to be or seem, and he may be as angry at himself as he seems to be at the interviewer. I think I sense a bit of that same sort of anger underlying some of Elijah's actions sometimes; like he feels he's called upon to be something he doesn't wish to be. I'd think he'd have a certain quality of energy that he could put into playing Iggy very effectively.

Up until now I'd only read that Rolling Stone interview, and seen old videos of Iggy performing; he gives off a very masculine energy in both those cases. But in this interview he has that same androgynous quality that Elijah can project sometimes.

Looks like we've got an interesting performance to look forward to; I only hope it's also a good and convincing portrait, without being an impersonation.

honey~

sneaking
03-12-2007, 05:23 PM
From Nylon magazine (this month's I think, with Christina Ricci on the cover), copied this all from a post by frolijah_fan_54 on the elijah_finds LJ community. Italics are the article. Bold is frolijah_fan.

He greets the news that his Wikipedia entry now reads “music executive” with a burst of laughter. “Yeah, if only they knew. It’s just me, sitting alone in my apartment in front of a computer.”


This section comes after mention of Paris J'taime and The Oxford Murders (with William Hurt instead of John Hurt).

After that, production is finally slated to begin on the two-years-in-the-works Iggy Pop biopic The Passenger, in which Wood will play the sinewy Stooge himself.

“Iggy read and approved the script, so we’re going to start shooting this year,” he says. “It’s totally awesome. It scares the shit out of me, because I love him. And it’s terrifying to play someone so iconic. I would never want to be the one to screw with people’s perception of who he was. But that’s also why I want to do it. I am genuinely a huge fan, so at least it’s in the hands of someone who cares.”

Incredibly, Wood was also considered for the role of Ian Curtis in Anton Corbjin’s upcoming Joy Division film, Control, but he had already committed himself to playing Pop. The opportunity to portray two of the most riveting and epoch-defining musicians in history surely can’t befall many an actor, and for a tuned-in music super-nerd such as Wood, it’s clear that both the novelty and the implicit honor of being asked didn’t escape him. Perhaps most importantly, post-Hobbit, he finds himself in the privileged position of being able to pick and choose virtually whatever role he wants – whether it be, say, an animated arctic bird who channels Fred Astaire, or a real-life, as Wikipedia has it, music executive.

“I really do love making movies and being a part of other people’s vision,” he says. “But Simian is coming out of a direct need to do something on my own, to build something from the ground up that has nothing to do with the career that I’ve established for myself. To face something in your life where you’re not being handed responsibility, you’re creating it – I think that’s really important.”


The article also talked about his "practically encyclopedic" knowledge of music, that he "loves watching episodes of '70's British show The Old Grey Whistle Test on DVD" (have no idea what that is), and "don't even get him started on Christmas music - I do, and end up leaving with a list of songs he says I need to hear."

Notes: The Old Grey Whistle Test is an old music show from the BBC in the UK. Proper, serious bands not chart fluff.

Edit: Also, pictures!

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f153/sneakingraptor/dewilde02.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f153/sneakingraptor/nylon020.jpg

Mechtild
03-12-2007, 05:37 PM
Thanks, Honey. I wondered precisely what was meant. I can kind of see that, now that you describe it. I see much of what you see in Iggy in that interview, too.

I'm going to copy a post I just made for Elijah_finds to put it here. It brings together a string of early Iggy clips, including three interviews, two of them explicitly dated the same year as the one Brummie linked. Iggy Pop came across differently in each.

Sneaking, thanks so much for posting that! I find it EXTREMELY encouraging! (Love the scan, too. :D ) This was SUCH a positive article! You'd think his managers had paid them to write it, when it says things like this:

Incredibly, Wood was also considered for the role of Ian Curtis in Anton Corbjin’s upcoming Joy Division film, Control, but he had already committed himself to playing Pop. The opportunity to portray two of the most riveting and epoch-defining musicians in history surely can’t befall many an actor, and for a tuned-in music super-nerd such as Wood, it’s clear that both the novelty and the implicit honor of being asked didn’t escape him. Perhaps most importantly, post-Hobbit, he finds himself in the privileged position of being able to pick and choose virtually whatever role he wants – whether it be, say, an animated arctic bird who channels Fred Astaire, or a real-life, as Wikipedia has it, music executive.
*suppresses excitement to go off and make dinner*

~ Mechtild

sneaking
03-12-2007, 05:57 PM
Every now and then, they have Ian Curtis on the front of a music mag (Mojo or something like that). I' end up doing a double take as I walk past. In some photos, he looks so similar to Elijah. Big height different though (at least 6 inches if not a bit more).

Mechtild
03-12-2007, 05:59 PM
I spent yesterday and last night old video clips of Iggy Pop. Watching these got me terribly excited: perhaps playing this performer may be the breakthrough role Elijah Wood has needed.

For those who don’t have days off to spend doing this, here are some of the old clips.

Note: I have used the exact titles for the clips as they appear at youtube, just in case the links break.

The first three clips are, or include, interviews. After watching the 1977 interview with Peter Gzowski that Brummie (earths_daughter on LJ) posted, it’s amazing to see how differently he behaves in each.


1. David Bowie and Iggy Pop - Dinah Shore TV show '77
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8optOhhetso

This interview is a real keeper, with good quality and a bit of documentary intro, in which (just the thought of it slays me) Iggy and David Bowie are on the Dinah Shore show (older fans will remember Dinah). Talking with Dinah, Iggy couldn’t be more engaging and friendly, not at all the twitchy, defensive, brittle young man talking to Peter Gzowski (the interview Brummie linked).

2. IGGY POP - INTERVIEW 1977
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x9Yk6uGcWs

In this British interview, also from 1977, Iggy is completely different again. He listens and answers the questions with a good deal of gravity, although he still does not always make perfect sense. This is another Iggy I can really imagine EW “getting”.

3. Iggy Pop Performs "I'm Bored" on Countdown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwni6UoImH0

This clip is undated, but, from the look of him in the interview, it’s probably 1977-79. I suppose a true fan could check and see when the Stooges were in Australia.

The program is called “Countdown”. Iggy is so high or excited (or both), he literally can’t sit still, squirming and bouncing around in his chair, his interviewer trying to get him to settle down and answer the questions. When I picture EW playing this wired Iggy, with his hilarious "Mozart" laugh, I have to grin.

The interview is followed by a glam version of “I’m Bored” (apparently sung to a recorded track since he frequently has no microphone in his hand), performed in a pair of gold satin pants that will make Roqui *very* happy. ;)

4. Iggy Pop I'm bored live OGWT 1979
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGDb8X8limY

This shows Iggy performing the same song in 1979, “I’m Bored” (a rather amusing song, I’d say), wearing a bit more, on a British TV show from the 70's and 80's [showcasing serious rock, not just top-ten stuff, I read elsewhere], called "The Old Grey Whistle Test" (or TOGWT). What interests me most in this clip is that the song is sung in a higher register than his usual baritone, which would be easier for EW to sound convincing doing.

5. IGGY POP & THE STOOGES HARE KRISHNA HIPPIE MUSIC FEST 1970
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjBDUVf7wig

This clip (wait for the Hare Krishna stuff to finish) shows a very rough clip of him singing way back in 1970. I thought again how good EW could be at capturing his physical style here. The song is in a higher register, too, which would be more doable for him.

6. Iggy Pop - I wanna be your dog - 1979
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbLRf0j80wU

This shows Iggy and the Stooges singing again on TOGWT, in 1979, doing “I Wanna Be Your Dog”. This also shows Iggy singing in a slightly higher register than usual.

7. Iggy Pop - The Passenger (Live ´77)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msrqOVgVh1A

This last clip is from 1977, with Iggy singing “The Passenger”. The clip is identified as being from the October 1977 concert at the Manchester Apollo. Since “The Passenger” is the proposed title of the film, perhaps this song will end up being the film’s finale, showing him having come out of the deepest of his recurring depths.

I actually love this clip, grainy as it is, Iggy’s voice low and beat-up. He has his discarded shirt tucked into the back of his jeans, so that when he prances around it looks like he has a swishing horse’s tail.

I also notice that when he tells an anecdote toward the end about talking to a girl, she addresses him as “Jimmy”. Maybe a lot of people continued to call him by his given name (James), rather than Iggy (which came from his first group, “The Iguanas”).



Here are two clips I posted yesteday at Elijah_finds, also early Iggy gems:

1. The Stooges - TV Eye + 1970
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Xw9erM3uQ

This clip I found REALLY thrilled me! It's identified as being from "TV Eye", a taping of Iggy at the Cincinatti Pop Festival in 1970. Once his performance starts, there's plenty to look at in terms of seeing Iggy do his schtick. He dives into the crowd multiple times (bewildering the TV commentator), is borne up on the audience's hands then lifted up (see the stills below). And, for the video's finale, he smears his chest with peanut butter, flinging extra wads to the crowd.

On stage, young Iggy looks like he was the nuttiest, slinkiest, most manic little elf-boy-changeling-child that ever romped over (and off) a stage. Now that I've seen these clips, I can really picture Elijah doing this. Sort of the dark, crazy side of the "elf" thing he's got going on anyway.

2. Iggy Pop - Sixteen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvcKX4gK18Q

This is another great clip. It's not dated, but it looks like it comes from the same time. He's singing "Sweet Sixteen" on a TV show (I think). He even ends doing the signature backbend.

Seeing these clips really makes me feel that Elijah will be able to do this, do it stupendously -- if only he will throw himself into it 110% (and if the filmmakers are good, of course! :cool: ).

~ Mechtild

Mechtild
03-12-2007, 06:09 PM
Sneaking, we simul-posted. :) Yes, I think I remember reading here that one of the reasons Ian Curtis' fans didn't want Elijah was that he was too short to be Ian, who was tall.

~ M

ceefour
03-13-2007, 08:40 AM
Happy Birthday, Mariole!

C4

BLOSSOM
03-13-2007, 02:39 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/Mariole.jpg

Enjoy your day! :)

BunnieBugs
03-13-2007, 09:26 PM
Happy Birthday, Mariole!

Hot off the scanner (and just plain hot), excised from the article from Nylon magazine:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah%202/poetry.jpg

:k

Shelbyshire
03-13-2007, 09:52 PM
Happy Birthday, Mariole!

I'm so sorry for the lack of a present. Photobucket is down or my computer is having problems getting to it.

That's okay...I'm sure the Harem has you set up proper to enjoy the evening with Mr. Frodo himself!! Enjoy :k !!!

tgshaw
03-14-2007, 08:40 AM
Happy belated Birthday, Mariole!

There's a table being saved for you at the best (only) restaurant in town - and, yes, I erased that pesky Alex ;) for the occasion.

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/16553fb0.jpg

txtac
03-14-2007, 09:54 AM
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

The SXSW Music Festival starts today! The Music Trade Show starts tommorrow. I just checked the registration list and there is
NO SIMIAN RECORDS, Yep-Roc Records, or Redeye Distribution listed! :eek: :o :mad: :(

The list for the Trade Show is here: http://2007.sxsw.com/music/tradeshow/exhibitor_list/

The list for the Indie Village is here: http://2007.sxsw.com/tradeshow/music_exhibition/indievillage/

Does anyone know a rap date for the Oxford Murders yet???

Anyone need a gorilla suit? It was only tried on once to make sure that it fit (and yes- I wore underwear- so it's still clean ;) )

APPLES IN STEREO will be playing March 16th, Friday, at the Dirty Dog Bar 505 E. 6th Street at 1:00AM!
The SXSW Apples in Stereo page (it mentions Elijah at lot) is at: http://2007.sxsw.com/music/showcases/band/49113.html


IGGY POP and the STOOGES will be playing March 17th, Saterday, at Stubbs BBQ. 801 Red River St. http://www.iggypop.com

Will Elijah make it in time :confused:

_________________________________________________________________

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARIOLE ! :k

whiteling
03-14-2007, 01:53 PM
The SXSW Music Festival starts today! The Music Trade Show starts tommorrow. I just checked the registration list and there is
NO SIMIAN RECORDS, Yep-Roc Records, or Redeye Distribution listed! :eek: :o :mad: :(

ARGH!! :( :rolleyes: What a bummer.
Besides this, I hope you'll enjoy the Apples in Stereo! :)

(sekrit message to Txtac: Had you anything in your mail yet?)

BunnieBugs
03-14-2007, 02:22 PM
I'm so sorry, txtac! If I've deciphered the director's blog correctly, they're only just headed to Oxford to film there tomorrow. And I'm not sure how long they're supposed to be there, but I'll bet it's several days, at the least. :(

txtac
03-14-2007, 02:29 PM
Whiteling wrote: ARGH!! What a bummer.

"It's not over 'till the fat lady sings..." as they say, but in this case "it's not over 'till the old skinny dude with the long blonde hair screams" on Saterday.

I still have faith in Elijah's passion for music and his love for SXSW (BBQ not included :p ). I will be swinging from lamp posts looking for him until Saterday night. If the police don't pull me down- I will find him! I know that he is still locked into the movie until the bitter end, but if there is anyway that he can get away early I have to believe that he will be here. :z: There is too much going on that is important to him for him to totally miss out on it. If he does, then it will be only the second time in his life that he has missed SXSW for shooting a film in London. The first time was Green Street Hooligans, but he was here the following year for the World Premier of Green Street Hooligans at the SXSW Film Festival!

Whiteling , I will climb down off of my perch and go see... ;)

Eandme
03-14-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm so sorry, txtac! If I've deciphered the director's blog correctly, they're only just headed to Oxford to film there tomorrow. And I'm not sure how long they're supposed to be there, but I'll bet it's several days, at the least. :(

When I was on set (btw it still feels unreal just typing that!) John Hurt said to me they were going up to Oxford to shoot, and that they had another five weeks of filming to do. That was mid-February.

sneaking
03-15-2007, 03:33 PM
Day Zero is getting shown at the Tribeca Film Festival, in the "Discovery" section. I misread the news release the first time and thought it was "Family" which I thought was a bit disturbing.

http://www.tribecafilmfestival.org/tff07-family-discovery-release.html

(thanks to Cristiel, who posted this up in elijah_finds).

Mariole
03-17-2007, 07:27 AM
Thank you for your birthday greetings, Facultites!

Ceefour :k Blossom :k Bunniebugs :D ShelbyShire :k Tgshaw :k Txtac :k

Tg, it's okay if Alex joins us... for dinner. ;)

I'm sorry to have missed the day, but I have been just finishing up this story and spending every last minute on that effort. It's now done, yay!

Thanks as always for updates on TOL. I want to see some more movies. :) Cheers, all!

sneaking
03-19-2007, 08:45 PM
An article about John Hurt (with only tangential Elijah mention). I thought some people round here might want to read it anyway.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,,2038230,00.html

Plus an Elijah excessive music fan one I don't remember seeing before:

http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,,2038230,00.html

Mechtild
03-19-2007, 09:16 PM
Sneaking, I LOVED that article about John Hurt. I always have loved his performances, but this made him vivid to me as a person. Thanks so much for posting a link.

But as for your second link, I am afraid it is actually a duplicate of your first. Just thought I'd let you know in case you want to fix it. I'd sort of like to take a peek, even though I'm a moron about contemporary music. :)

~ Mechtild

sneaking
03-20-2007, 05:08 AM
http://music.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,,2034839,00.html

Is the link I meant. Density of band/musicians names approaching 80% and rising.

Mechtild
03-20-2007, 07:43 AM
Thanks, Sneaking, that article was hilarious, and revealing. It revealed just how intense is EW's love of music, and how wide his knowledge, as well as revealing how narrow my own is. Except for The Beatles, I only knew the music of The Incredible String Band (still have got a couple of vinyl albums somewhere). Of the rest mentioned, I dimly recognized the names of a couple, but the others were totally unknown to me. Go, him, on his record label -- but not at the expense of his acting work (I hope). :cool:

~ M

txtac
03-20-2007, 09:09 AM
Mech wrote: Go, him, on his record label -- but not at the expense of his acting work (I hope).
Don't worry Mech, his label is just a 'hobby.' His acting still comes first- otherwise he would have been at SXSW... :(

tgshaw
03-20-2007, 11:32 AM
I'm trying to keep what TV listings I can find updated on my "What's New" page (http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/). If I've figured out how to do this link correctly, it should take you right to the listings:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/#tv

I've only found these for the U.S. and Great Britain, and the listings for Great Britain have only mentioned shows on Sky TV. If anyone knows of other sources, please let me know. Last week there were also notices of TV episodes that were re-running, so hopefully they're a regular part of the listings (this is only the second week I've used them, so I don't know yet what's "regular").

ETA: Apologies if this has been posted already, but HF is scheduled for DVD release on March 27. Besides the usual wide-screen and full-screen options, there are also Blu-ray and HD.

txtac
03-22-2007, 12:59 PM
I might get spanked for posting this here, but very few people are checking the Tolkien page.

If you live in the New York City area:

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Mechtild
03-22-2007, 03:11 PM
A Barnes & Noble Exclusive. A **LIMITED QUANTITY** of THE CHILDREN OF HÚRIN signed by Christopher Tolkien and Alan Lee will go on sale at 12:00 noon on April 17, 2007. (& Etc.
I'll say they're lucky! I've had one on order at Amazon for months, but a signed one: Wow! And how I'd love to see or meet these two GIANTS of Tolkien in person!

~ M

txtac
03-27-2007, 01:47 PM
Blog originally posted on TORn:

Sideshow Drawing for Message Board Members

3/27/07, 2:01 pm EST - Altaira

To thank everyone who's re-registered on our new message boards, and all newcomers, TORn and Sideshow Collectibles are teaming up to give away a "Premium Format" Frodo statue! The second prize will be a Battle of Helm's Deep set by Play Along. Just go to the Login page, register on the new boards and post at least one message (or reply to a message) by midnight, Thursday April 5, 2007. A drawing will be held on April 6th from registered users who qualify. What a great way to celebrate joining the community!

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1175016604

txtac
03-28-2007, 09:32 AM
In London? Be the First To Celebrate The Children of Hurin Release!
March 28, 2007
Submitted By Jonathan (original blog posted on TORn)

J.R.R. Tolkien's The Children of Húrin
The 30-year wait is over!

Final Children of Hurin Cover ArtThe world-wide launch will begin on Tuesday 17th April at 10am at Waterstone's Bookshop Picadilly, London
Join us for a daylong extravaganza of readings, competitions & activities in store including illustrator Alan Lee signing the new novel. Signed bookplates will be awarded to the first 50 people through the doors.

Waterstone's 203 - 206 Piccadilly London W1V 9LE
TEL: 0207 851 2400

If you are unable to attend, we can often reserve signed copies. Please contact the branch for details. Signed copies cannot be guaranteed and may not carry dedications.

Currently Alan Lee will be in the store during the day signing copies of the book. Bookplates will be given to the first 50 people through the door on the day. There will also be a series of events throughout the day

Since Elijah is still around town, I wonder if he will stop in ? :z:

ceefour
03-28-2007, 08:37 PM
OK, tg, Happy Feet has been out for two days and there aren't any screen caps up on your site yet. :mad: :p

I must mention that being in the theater never stopped Achila, Pelagia and me from singing along. In fact, we sang more (and louder) with each viewing. Maybe that's why Achila wouldn't go with Pelagia and me that last time...

C4

tgshaw
03-29-2007, 08:22 AM
OK, tg, Happy Feet has been out for two days and there aren't any screen caps up on your site yet. :mad: :p
I do have some :p - Although I didn't want to stop for frame-by-frame on my first time through, I did a full "on the fly" screencapping, just clicking the button whenever a good shot came on screen. But since your next comment shows you actually read the "What's New" page (thanks :k ), you know I was without any way to publish for almost a week - Hey, I can live without my phone, but when that's out, so is my internet access :eek: :eek: ! After the phone company guy left yesterday , I rushed to update the TV listings - and added the quick DVD comment. If I work fast, I may be able to get a few more-or-less random caps up before I leave for the office - probably linked from the "What's New" page as that's the quickest way to publish something.

I must mention that being in the theater never stopped Achila, Pelagia and me from singing along. In fact, we sang more (and louder) with each viewing. Maybe that's why Achila wouldn't go with Pelagia and me that last time...

C4
Maybe the fact that I'm usually at movies alone restrains me ;) . I did see Happy Feet once with my non-Tolkienite friend, but she gets embarrassed and shushes me if I talk too loud in a restaurant :rolleyes: , so I don't think singing along would have gone over too well. :p


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ETA:

Okay, I have to be at my home computer to publish to the website, but I can post on the message board from work --

Here's a page of screencaps from the first Mumblijah scene (http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/id13.htm).

And, they're a little dated now, but here are some thoughts on Happy Feet (http://www.frodolivesin.us/id340.htm) from theater viewings.

txtac
03-30-2007, 01:29 PM
Live in NJ? Wanna Meet Daniel Reeve?

We are pleased to announce the following U.S. appearance by Lord of the Rings Calligrapher, Daniel Reeve (danielreeve.co.nz) will be the keynote speaker at Thinking Creatively 2007, the annual conference of the Art Director's Club of New Jersey. The conference reinforces the relevance of what creative people do best - imagining possibilities and creating them!

An exhibition of the Art of Daniel Reeve will be on display in the main atrium for the duration of the conference.

Thinking Creatively is on 30 - 31 March, 2007 at Kean University in Union, NJ. Don't miss this opportunity to experience Daniel's amazing artwork!

http://www.adcnj.org/conference.html

tgshaw
03-30-2007, 04:37 PM
I posted a comparison shot to the following Jones pic on the first page of HF screencaps. But on that page I concentrated on the first scene Elijah is in, and didn't catch this even better match til later:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/1f3e24b0.jpg http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/1f2eab40.jpg

(I've now added it to the page, though.)

Shelbyshire
04-01-2007, 02:37 PM
Found by the folks at elijah_finds/LJ.

Day Zero... :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/4201.jpg

and The Oxford Murders... :k

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/6444132618431qk9.jpg

sneaking
04-01-2007, 05:42 PM
That is a deeply unflattering jumper he's wearing in the first pic (jumper in the British usage). He also looks like a mournful, out of his depth faun which is not necessarily a bad thing or that he might die if Chris Klien accidently sat on him. I wonder what his part actually is in Day Zero. Is he a normal bloke or is he going from a bit weak/geeky to completely bonkers or what. Also, what age is he supposed to be: one of them looks like he's got a shot of some kind and the other two are on cokes.

The second pic, he just looks fantastic. People keep saying it's a raquetball court but it just looks like a squash court to me (do we even have racquetball in the UK?). I am moderately concerned that she's presumably wearing full eye make-up. That doesn't normally mix very well with exercise. I'd look like a panda after 5 minutes...

BunnieBugs
04-01-2007, 07:35 PM
Is he a normal bloke or is he going from a bit weak/geeky to completely bonkers or what. Also, what age is he supposed to be: one of them looks like he's got a shot of some kind and the other two are on cokes.

I remember from an interview that Elijah said that his character "kind of loses it." I think he goes a bit round the bend toward the end, when he's just about due to report for duty. I'll bet he was pretty normal before that.

And I think they're all supposed to be in their early twenties. Chris Klein is actually a couple of years older than Elijah, but I'm not sure about Jon Bernthal. I expect that their drinks are dark beer, rather than Coke, unless they're supposed to be much younger than their actual ages.


The second pic, he just looks fantastic. People keep saying it's a raquetball court but it just looks like a squash court to me (do we even have racquetball in the UK?). I am moderately concerned that she's presumably wearing full eye make-up. That doesn't normally mix very well with exercise. I'd look like a panda after 5 minutes...Squash! That makes more sense than racquetball. I knew I remembered that they'd changed it from tennis to some other court game, but I forgot about the possibility of squash.

Maybe she wears waterproof makeup? Or maybe she's not playing in this scene?