View Full Version : The Faculty Lounge -- An Ongoing Elijah Wood Discussion #14
Shelbyshire
09-12-2006, 10:29 AM
Borrowed from Achila's beginning of thread #13:
Hi everyone and welcome to our fourteenth new home. To get the ball rolling, here's the quote from our Dean, tgshaw:Originally Posted by tgshaw:
--And my basic comment is that different actors have different strengths/talents/gifts. There are some things a good method actor could do better than Elijah could. I don't know if he's the best actor possible for the Iggy Popp role. That kind of depends on what sides of Iggy the film is going to show; I thought the comments from his wife about how different he was off-stage from on-stage were interesting and would fit Elijah's acting style in some ways. Not knowing if he's the best person available for the job doesn't mean that I don't think he can pull it off.
OTOH, Elijah's ability to connect at an emotional - even subconscious - level with the character he's playing is something I haven't seen anyone else match (saw a flash or two of it in Billy Boyd in RotK). His best acting involves stuff that would be impossible for anyone to do from an intellectual POV. Micro-expressions, autonomic nervous system responses, undefinable but perfect emotional expression - he "gets" the character's emotional state even when he can't say afterward exactly what he did. I agree with the Huck Finn director who told Elijah he shouldn't try to approach a role in the same way Courtney B. Vance did. It is possible for an actor like Elijah to lose touch with the character by overintellectualizing him.
That might very well mean he's not the best actor for roles that require a more intellectual approach to the character. No, I can't see him becoming a Ranger to the extent Viggo did; that wouldn't have been a great role for him. But I'm also pretty confident in saying that Viggo couldn't have given us The Turn, or the moment between "Do they?" and "Do they, Gandalf?" when you see Frodo's world fall apart on his face, or the complex mix of emotions that Frodo shows on many occasions. I was glad/relieved/hopeful when I heard Elijah'd been cast as Frodo because I knew he had talents that would be needed to play Frodo.
And, yes, especially from the pics on the first day of LotR filming, he popped in and out of character awfully fast. But that was a day largely taken up with making a variety of "hobbit piles," and it was the first day of shooting. I think it's a positive statement to say that you can immediately tell the difference between Elijah in costume and Elijah in character. There's at least one behind-the-scenes shot at the Grey Havens where Elijah's off to the side, obviously not on camera, but also very obviously Frodo. So there are evidently times when he knows it's best to stay within the character. We also know that after the Wheel of Fire scene, he had to go off by himself for awhile because he was so emotionally shaken -- but for him, PJ's "Go deeper" didn't take him deeper into himself but deeper into Frodo, which I think is one of the big differences between his acting and that of actors with a more thought-out acting style.
Stu's probably one of Elijah's most non-subtle and openly-emotional characters, and did allow him to let loose (but there's still a big difference between Stu and Elijah). Huck and Casey are both wonderfully nuanced characters, but because of the kinds of movies they're in that might not be recognized as much as it could be. He'll very possibly never be as universally appreciated as some actors are, because his acting isn't always easy; sometimes it makes you work at it, the way a well-written book does. And there are some types of film "literature" his style is better suited for than some others, but IMHO that's true of all actors, just in different ways. And to start things off with a bang...but what picture do I pick? :(
Not one with Lindsay and not Mumbles since it's animated and it shouldn't be a spoiler pic from an upcoming movie. A picture that's already been seen and one that shows his diversity.
Hmmm...okay got one, if you would prefer another, let me know and I'll change it. If not, then...
Welcome!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Elijah%20Wood/2-2.jpg
whiteling
09-12-2006, 11:19 AM
Thank you, Shelbyshire, for opening the new Faculty Lounge and for bringing home the troops! ;) :k
So, hats off to Elijah and the 14th sequel of our home...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Hats_off_to_Elijah.jpg
Skater girl
09-12-2006, 11:27 AM
Thanks for starting the new thread Shelbyshire.
I'll add one of my favourite images of Elijah, taking him from skinhead in Shelbyshire's picture, through longer gelled up hair from Whiteling, to damp and tousled, which to be quite honest is the way I prefer it.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/pippa134/Elijah2.jpg
honeyelf
09-12-2006, 01:45 PM
ShelbyShire, thanks for starting the new thread!
EandMe, I'm sorry I missed your birthday!
Narya, that link in the last post in #13 is bad, just so's ya know.
I like his hair any old way, just so long as it's MESSY! :)
http://static.flickr.com/45/172478235_aae459f577_o.jpg
honey!
tgshaw
09-12-2006, 01:51 PM
Starting off with hair styles, eh? I suppose it's related to the fact that I graduated from high school the same year that the movie is set, but I've always liked this one:
http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/3cbd0980.jpg
I prefer the tousled football-game hair over those perfect "wings" during the presentation on molecules. :p
Thanks for getting this underway, Shelbyshire. I owe Narya :o :o :o and a couple of :k :k for getting #13 ended and locked. The last few days, I've been watching the post numbers climbing into the high 400's, thinking, "We're about halfway to a new thread :o !" It wasn't til I saw Narya's posts that it hit me (like a ton of bricks :eek: ) that the limit was changed from 1000 to 500. :rolleyes: :o
Apologies to all. Continue with the decorating, please :D .
And a very happy belated birthday to eandme :k , which I also spaced out. :rolleyes:
BunnieBugs
09-12-2006, 02:37 PM
Photobucket chose this exact moment to go down, so I must make do with a photo that I had uploaded elsewhere.
Sorry I missed your birthday, Eandme! Elijah's hoping that bringing a couple of friends along for a belated celebration will help make up for missing your special day:
http://pics.livejournal.com/bunniewabbit/pic/0001qak4
(I love how they dressed for that premiere!)
ceefour
09-12-2006, 03:11 PM
Sorry, no pictures, because I still can't do that yet. :o
Spoiler for the Costa Botes' ROTK documentary.
tg's comment on EW moving in and out of character reminded me of an intriguing little snippet of film on the Costa Botes documentary for ROTK. During filming of the Crack of Doom scene, the documentary camera is on SA saying his lines and the then the camera pans over to EW, off to the side, drinking from a bottle of water. The camera moves back to SA and then back to EW, except now it's Frodo standing there. I wish the camera had stayed on EW so we could have seen him become Frodo.
End Spoiler
C4
ETA-Honeyelf, could you make that picture bigger? ;)
Narya Celebrian
09-12-2006, 05:05 PM
Honeyelf, thanks for the heads up. I got so carried away editing the forward message that I didn't double check that it still worked the last time I played around with it. It's fixed now. My, but that young man can befuddle an old woman's brain. ;)
Don't worry about it TG - I was just lurking about and thought I'd flex a mod muscle or two. :)
I like the new threads. Nice pictures. :D
tgshaw
09-12-2006, 05:37 PM
I've moved thread #13 to the Barrow Downs, but will leave the redirect from it in the forum for awhile.
Sorry, no pictures, because I still can't do that yet. :o
C4 - Are you "stuck" at a point someone could help you sort out? Or do you not have the equipment you need to make screencaps?
I wish the camera had stayed on EW so we could have seen him become Frodo.
He seems quite deft at avoiding that, doesn't he? :D It's increased my admiration of his acting even more to realize that he doesn't always snap in and out of character so quickly - he must take each situation on its own. One of the clips from the filming of the Havens (not from the new DVD - don't ask me where I saw it :rolleyes: ), Frodo's standing far off to the side, very obviously not on camera or even involved in the shot being made - but also very obviously Frodo. Must have been a time Elijah felt it was better to stay in character than to move out of character and then try to go back in again. We also know that after the "Wheel of Fire" scene he went off by himself for awhile, because he'd gotten so deeply into Frodo's emotions that he had to recover. But then there are times like the one C4 mentioned, and the "hiding under the treeroots" scene where he changes instantaneously.
We have so much "behind the scenes" info about the LotR movies - wonder how this works in his other roles.
ceefour
09-12-2006, 08:43 PM
Well, you see, tg, Mister ceefour could show me easily. He is a electrical engineer/software engineer/project leader who could probably make the computer stand up and do a tap dance. But how does one explain to one's beloved husband (of almost
27 years :eek: ) that one wants to learn how to download and post pictures, and not of one's lovely children :k , but of a certain young man? :o I don't think one does. :lol:
I think the Grey Havens scenes are from the Appendices of the ROTK-EE. I remember seeing EW in character, but between takes, in that.
The Two Towers-The Complete Recordings will be released on November 7. (A nifty birthday present for Pelagia!)
http://www.howardshore.com/news/pressreleases/lotr-ttt.html
C4
sneaking
09-13-2006, 03:44 AM
Paris Je T'aime has a US distributer: First Look Pictures. So, another hard to find indie cinema film (I had a quick look at the films they've distributed in the past and the only one I recognised was Chopper).
Achila
09-13-2006, 06:34 AM
Paris Je T'aime has a US distributer: First Look Pictures. So, another hard to find indie cinema film (I had a quick look at the films they've distributed in the past and the only one I recognised was Chopper).
Yay! And the report also added that we should be seeing it in early 07. Just a little OT -- for those who enjoy all things Howard Shore, the extended TT score is being released on Nov 7. *ETA -- I see ceefour and I simulposted on this.
And welcome all to our 14th thread! In honor of Paris Je T'aime, here's a pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/017121.jpg
(And ceefour, I'll teach you how to attach pictures some time -- just remind me)
honeyelf
09-13-2006, 11:56 AM
I recognize a couple of First Look Pictures' past titles: Mrs. Dalloway and The Secret of Roan Innish. I loved the latter film with its Irish landscapes, accents and sense of longing; if you haven't seen it, it's definetly worth renting. In fact I think I'm going straight to the netflix cue from here! :)
Any of our UK friends know if Paris je T'aime will be showing there anytime soon? Like...maybe next month? ::mysterious smiley::
honey!
sneaking
09-13-2006, 01:01 PM
Well, it's not impossible, ;) ! The London Film Festival is next month (Bobby is definitely playing). I think the programme is announced tomorrow (check www.lff.org.uk). However, it can be hard to get tickets for some of the films.
saile
09-14-2006, 06:45 AM
Thanks Shelbyshire for starting the 14th addition of this thread. I'm never far away if quiet these days. Still simmerin'.........
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/cannes3.jpg
Great news ceefour
The Two Towers-The Complete Recordings will be released on November 7. (A nifty birthday present for Pelagia!)
http://www.howardshore.com/news/pressreleases/lotr-ttt.html
C4
saile
tgshaw
09-14-2006, 08:03 AM
Good to see you, saile - and what a nice addition to the decor. :)
Now, if Mechtild drops in, I think I can take down the redirect thread... ;)
whiteling
09-18-2006, 08:33 AM
Ah, good. I'm just in time for Tg's birthday. :)
And so is Elijah (who happens to having his wig and moustache fitted for his new role right now. He too is wishing you a very
Happy Birthday, dear TG! :k
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/ElijahEinstein.jpg
:D
Hope you're having a wonderful day.
Achila
09-18-2006, 08:38 AM
Happy Birthday, TG, and thank you for inviting me here oh so long ago -- I've really loved being a part of this group. :k
This little thing has twisted himself into knots, afraid he'd miss your birthday!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/newbagend.jpg
Hope it's wonderful!
Mariole
09-18-2006, 08:42 AM
Whiteling!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
*posts desperately in an attempt to restore normalcy*
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/mariole/Froprofile.jpg
Happy Birthday, TG!
whiteling
09-18-2006, 08:53 AM
Whiteling!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
What?
*whistles innocently*
(Oh, those Tolkien purists! They apparently think that Frodo is more normal than Einstein! ;) :k)
Lovely pic!
BunnieBugs
09-18-2006, 09:48 AM
Happy Birthday, TG!
From both me and Frolijah:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/LOTR%20photos%20-%20misc/rotk_le_disc1_031.jpg
ceefour
09-18-2006, 10:24 AM
Happy Birthday, tg!
C4
honeyelf
09-18-2006, 10:51 AM
Happy Birthday, TG! [COLOR=Navy] :k :k :k
Frodo, consulting his pocketwatch (with calendar, of course, since everything in the Shire is well made, and made to last ):
"I'd quite forgotten that TG's birthday was so near Uncle Bilbo's and my own! "
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/fotr-promo-177.jpg
honey!
ETA: I meant to say 'thank you,' Sneaking, for the info on the London Film Festival. :k That's interesting info, because:
Hubby-Darling just confirmed that we will be in London from Oct. 23-27th! :cool: Are any of our lovely Faculty Brits up for a London Moot? That's during the London Film Festival; if we're very lucky, and can score tickets, we might even get to see Bobby!
tgshaw
09-18-2006, 01:05 PM
Thanks for the birthday greetings, C4 and all! :k Great pictures of Monkey Boy from Achila, Frolijah from honey and Mariole, and - I have to guess :confused: - looks like Elido from Bunnie. Whiteling, if that's Albert Einstein in his twenties, he must have gotten a horrible shock from meeting Elvis! :lol:
To make it a true Shire birthday, here's a pile of gifts for all: Two new pages of Paint Shop pics from the Party (http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/id64.htm) :)
BTW - I took down the redirect from the last thread, so if anyone sees Mechtild wandering around, please let her know where we are. ;)
esmeraldabrandybuck
09-18-2006, 01:21 PM
http://overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/tgmerge06.jpg
http://overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/teeg06.jpg
Whiteling!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
*posts desperately in an attempt to restore normalcy*
:lol:
Skater girl
09-18-2006, 02:46 PM
Happy Birthday TG!!
Hubby-Darling just confirmed that we will be in London from Oct. 23-27th! :cool: Are any of our lovely Faculty Brits up for a London Moot? That's during the London Film Festival; if we're very lucky, and can score tickets, we might even get to see Bobby!
The premiere is on the 26th at the Odeon West End in Leicester Square. In the Times newspaper at the weekend there was a competition to win tickets for it. You just go to www.timesonline.co.uk/screen, answer the question 'In which year was Bobby's brother, John, assasinated?' and quote the code X5093. Closing date 21/9 (Thursday)
What was really encouraging was that from all the actors they could have shown against the film, they put in a still of Elijah with Lindsay Lohan.
BLOSSOM
09-18-2006, 04:47 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, TG!
From Elijah:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/Elijahwallpaper1sm.jpg
and Frodo:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/FirelightFrodo1.jpg
And me, of course! :)
Enjoy your day!
Whiteling! :eek: :lol:
Bunnie - That Frolijah pic must be from the new DVDs? I'll hopefully have them in my hot little hands next week. :)
Apologies to Lady Wendy and Eandme - I seem to have missed your birthdays a couple of weeks ago. Hope you both had good ones.
Shelbyshire
09-18-2006, 06:40 PM
For your birthday, tg.
I borrowed (and modified slightly ;)) these paragraphs from Many Partings, Return of the King. At last one evening the diligent group of research assistants came over the high moors, suddenly as to travellers it always seemed, to the brink of the deep forums of Kazad-Dum and saw far below the lamps shining in The Faculty thread. And they went down and crossed the bridge and came to the doors, and all the house was filled with light and song for joy at their homecoming.
First of all, before they had eaten or washed or even shed their cloaks, the students went in search of their Dean. They found her all alone in her little office. It was littered with papers and pens and pencils; but tgshaw was sitting in a chair before a small bright fire. She did not look old at all, but young and content, yet a tad bit sleepy.
She opened her eyes and looked up as they came in. 'Hullo, hullo!' she said. 'So you've come back? Now please show me everything you have found. I want to read all your research notes and especially,' she said with a wink and a smile, 'Id like to look at all the stunning photographs of Elijah in character. Of course, Frodo first!'
BunnieBugs
09-18-2006, 10:30 PM
Bunnie - That Frolijah pic must be from the new DVDs? I'll hopefully have them in my hot little hands next week.Yes, from the ROTK extras. "Elido," as TG put it, because there's far more Elijah in that cap than there is Frodo! ;)
This is not my favorite bit, though... watch for the section where Sean is doing Sam at the Cracks of Doom, with Elijah watching from the side. It's very cool!
honeyelf
09-18-2006, 11:34 PM
Thanks for the info on the contest to win tickets for Bobby, Skate.
Unfortunately you have to be a resident of the UK or Rol (where ever that is :confused: ). But did you notice the auspicious date when the winners will be notified? September 22nd!
Shelbyshire, your paraphrase of RoTK is adorably silly! :) :k
honey!
Skater girl
09-19-2006, 02:47 AM
Unfortunately you have to be a resident of the UK or Rol (where ever that is :confused: ). But did you notice the auspicious date when the winners will be notified? September 22nd!
RoI will be Republic of Ireland (the bottom bit that isn't part of the UK). I can't go to London that week, so I entered for you. :z: :z: I'm very unlikely to win though. Since I got lucky in love 18 years ago, I stopped having luck in lotteries, tombolas etc. Not that I'm complaining :)
honeyelf
09-19-2006, 07:12 AM
oh! RoI. I get it. I feel so geopolitically ignorant! :blushing smiley:
Thank you, Skate! Well if you win the tickets you'll have to come on down to London, and go with me! :)
honey!
Mariole
09-19-2006, 11:29 AM
Oh, those Tolkien purists! They apparently think that Frodo is more normal than Einstein!
LOL! So true, Whiteling, so true! :D :p
Bunny, I love that pic! I haven't seen the new DVD extras yet. I decided to rent before I buy, and I've just had no time. I am very keen to see "the section where Sean is doing Sam at the Cracks of Doom, with Elijah watching from the side. It's very cool!" :)
since everything in the Shire is well made
You can say that again, Honey! ;) Have a great time in London! We'll see if Skater Girl's luck will give you a ticket. I'd love to hear a Bobby report from a Facultite.
Shelbyshire, I love your LOTR/Faculty scene. It's perfect!
Tg, your page wouldn't display for me. :( I'll try later. Happy birthday, still!
Alyon
09-19-2006, 12:59 PM
Late but with never-too-late sentiments:
Happy Birthday, TG!!!!
saile
09-19-2006, 02:28 PM
Happy Birthday Tg! :k
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/gsh.jpg
We hate being late.
saile
shireling
09-19-2006, 04:45 PM
BELATED BIRTHDAY GREETINGS, TG!!
Hope it was a good one :)
Elijah is taking so long to find a gift for you, he doesn't even realise he's late :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/Birthdays%20and%20Spams/sundance023.jpg
txtac
09-20-2006, 11:03 AM
http://contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/fascinating%20fact%202124_1008700
FASCINATING FACT 2124 :lol:
THE LORD OF THE RINGS star ELIJAH WOOD will launch his new record label with veteran alternative group THE APPLES IN STEREO. The group's new album, NEW MAGNETIC WONDER, will be the first release on the actor's new label, Simian Records.
20/09/2006 03:55
honeyelf
09-20-2006, 11:19 AM
Isn't that Teh Cool! :D
sneaking
09-20-2006, 03:49 PM
Bobby trailer! (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/bobby.html)
txtac
09-20-2006, 04:44 PM
Just found this on the IMDb board:
Apples In Stereo Draft Elephant 6 Stars For New Disc
Veteran indie rock act the Apples In Stereo are the first signing to actor Elijah Wood's label, Simian Records. The group's new album, "New Magnetic Wonder," will arrive Feb. 7 via the imprint, which is a joint venture with Yep Roc and will be distributed by Redeye.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003124510
Somebody correct me, but wasn't the band 'Davis' Simian's first signing?
Just checked the Simian web site. It automatically takes you to yeproc.com there is the full story there. http://www.yeproc.com/artist_info.php?artistId=11065
BunnieBugs
09-20-2006, 07:53 PM
Somebody correct me, but wasn't the band 'Davis' Simian's first signing?Technically, Davis was Simian's first signing. But, I think between the fact that Apples in Stereo is already an established act and the fact that they have a record ready to release in February, it made more sense to make them Simian's 'debut' signing.
BLOSSOM
09-21-2006, 11:54 AM
De-lurking to have a grumble...
It seems the UK will have to wait another MONTH for the new LOTR Limited Edition DVDs!
I decided to browse some UK store sites to compare prices, and to see who was likely to have the DVDs in stock on Monday morning - as I'm sure the original UK release date was 25th September. The first site I visited was HMV, and there they were, at £13.99 each. 'Great,' I thought, anticipating hours of viewing brand new documentary footage next week, when I spotted the release date - 23rd OCTOBER!!! :eek: :(
'They must be mistaken,' thought I, so I checked on Amazon.co.uk - but, horror of horrors - they also have October 23rd as the release date!
Are any other UK'ers aware of this? Have I missed something? Perhaps my dotage has descended earlier than I expected, and I'm simply confused, and imagined the September release date! :confused: Shireling? Skater Girl? Lady Wendy? Brummie? Anyone?
On a lighter note, I'm pleased to see TOL's record label is finally making progress. :) Thanks Txtac
Sneaking - I watched the Bobby trailer several times. Loved the music! Thanks for the link. :)
Re-lurking to sulk...
ceefour
09-21-2006, 01:32 PM
Poor Blossom! (And I thought it was torture having to wait about a week and a half to see them. :o ) May I recommend watching them with the subtitles on? It was difficult sometimes to understand what was being said. Not just accents, but people would speak softly or turn away from the microphone.
This weekend, the Free Library of Philadelphia is showing FOTR-EE on a large screen and Pelagia and I have plans to attend. We will have to squee, um, I mean, take notes, for Achila, who is unable to join us.
C4
honeyelf
09-22-2006, 02:06 AM
I saw the Bobby trailer at the theater tonight! Seeing it on the big screen, I could see that William is none too fond of the razor; his handsome fuzzy little chin made an interesting contrast with that dashing white dinner jacket! I'm really looking forward to seeing this movie!
And Bobby's speech playing over the end of the thing made me cry. Tell me I'm not the only person who cries at movie trailers!?! Ridiculous!
Also saw the trailer for Flags of Our Fathers. That one's gonna require about three tissue boxes... :(
honey!
ceefour
09-22-2006, 09:21 AM
Happy Birthday, Frodo and Bilbo!
C4
saile
09-22-2006, 10:27 AM
Happy Birthday dear Frodo and Bilbo.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/FotR%20Caps%201/Partytent06.jpg
And sincere thanks to TOL as well.
saile
p.s. and thanks to Mechtild for the screencap. :k
honeyelf
09-22-2006, 12:55 PM
Happy Birthday, Bilbo and Frodo! :k :k :k
http://static.flickr.com/88/249883768_4dd50939ec_o.jpg
Thanks go to Mech for the screencap.
honey!
txtac
09-22-2006, 01:16 PM
Happy Birthday Bilbo and Frodo !!!
whiteling
09-22-2006, 01:18 PM
*sniff* Oh Honey, that's such a lovely and heartwrenching picture.
Here is one dating from happier days:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/FrodoBilbo_birthday.jpg
Happy Birthday, Baggins Boys! :k :k
BLOSSOM
09-22-2006, 02:36 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Birthdays/Fro-Bilbobirthday06.jpg
Happy Birthday TG!!
Sorry I missed it, I only wander thru about once a week during term time.
Hope you had a lovely day. Any Tolkein related pressies? :)
love Prim :)
sneaking
09-23-2006, 11:29 AM
My local arthouse cinema sporadically has one off showings of "old" films. I've just booked myself into see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind in a few weeks. It's one of my favourite films but I never saw at the cinema. I'm quite excited at the prospect of getting to see it on the big screen. To celebrate: our favourite panty stealer looking too contemplative to play the bongos.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f153/sneakingraptor/Eternal-Sunshine-mit-Elijah.jpg
Lady Wendy
09-23-2006, 12:30 PM
Hi everyone...
Haven't been here since August, but I thought I'd pop in to mention a couple of things..
Firstly, for all the UK peeps, and anyone else who is able to get here for that date....
The London Film Festival's showing of "Bobby" next month:-
As I am on their mailing list, ( since I bought tickets for their advance screening of EII ) they have graciously sent me a magazine with all the listings within...
"Bobby" is listed as the "Times Gala Screening" at the Odeon West End...showing on Thursday 26th October at 8.30 pm, and again the following day at 1pm, around lunchtime...
Now lunchtime is not very convenient, as most people will be working, including me, but we may have to go with that date if we want to arrange a get together, as the website isn't allowing any booking for the Thursday evening screening time...could be because it is a Premiere for the UK !! It didn't enlighten me as to who was going to be in attendance, but I'd guess that there may possibly be a few stars in attendance...
I will keep you informed as soon as I am allowed to telephone them to find out what I am allowed to book...29th September will be the earliest time for that !!
Blossom,
The first site I visited was HMV, and there they were, at £13.99 each. 'Great,' I thought, anticipating hours of viewing brand new documentary footage next week, when I spotted the release date - 23rd OCTOBER!!!
Oh no, Blossom...
That's SO very disappointing when you are looking forward to something...
I did a search and found this release date of August 25th, for UK buyers...but you do have to have a region 1 player to be able to play it, as this is the official release date for the US version...
As I understand it, if your DVD player can take the Region 1 format, you can easily buy online for UK delivery, even if the official release date for the UK isn't for another few months...makes no difference at all !!
However, you will have to check your machine's capability to play the region 1 format...
FOTR DVD Region 1 (http://www.store4dvd.com/index.php?action=viewitem&pid=794043104169&aff_id=196189)
Is anyone else fed up to the back teeth with this region system???...isn't it stupid !!! Give us universal release dates, and universal formats - and give us them NOW !!
Good luck Blossom, if you are able to take advantage of this offer !!
Honeyelf,
Welcome in advance to our side of the pond...I will make sure that we will be able to get a moot together, and anyone else in here who would like to come and meet Honey, her Husband, and I - be sure to send me a PM to let me know...
How exciting !!!
txtac
09-23-2006, 12:33 PM
Everyone pop over to the daily poll question on IMDb!
http://imdb.com/poll/
Today's IMDb Poll Question Is:
Star Wars/Lord of the Rings showdown, Part IV: Luke Skywalker or Frodo Baggins?
Frodo is getting the Shire kicked out of him by that panty-waste Luke Skywalker! Go Vote for Frodo !!!
honeyelf
09-25-2006, 11:47 PM
Honeyelf,
Welcome in advance to our side of the pond...I will make sure that we will be able to get a moot together, and anyone else in here who would like to come and meet Honey, her Husband, and I - be sure to send me a PM to let me know...
How exciting !!!
Thank you for the welcome, Lady Wendy! I'm so excited about my first (I hope) trip to London that I can hardly stand it! I very much hope I'll get to meet some of my Faculty Sisters across the ocean! That would be the (Ok, let me practice my Brittishisms here) treacle on the cake! (How'd I do? :) )
honey!!!
txtac
09-26-2006, 09:24 AM
The 9-26 Daily Poll on the IMDb Home Page is about movie music.
LOTR has two submissions for Fellowship of the Ring and Return of the King.
Both are kicking the Shire out of all of the other movie scores. :)
Please pop on over and add your vote to the LOTR music submissions. :z:
http://imdb.com/poll/
Today's IMDb Poll Question Is:
Best Original Score Oscar winner of the past 10 years? (We're including the Musical/Comedy winners as well; suggested by Spenser M.)
shireling
09-28-2006, 10:35 AM
Are any other UK'ers aware of this? Have I missed something? Perhaps my dotage has descended earlier than I expected, and I'm simply confused, and imagined the September release date! Shireling? Skater Girl? Lady Wendy? Brummie? Anyone?
No Blossom - your dotage hasn't arrrived yet :) It's all been very confusing - first I got an email from Amazon saying the delivery date for FOTR would be delayed, a bit later I got one saying the same for ROTK, but no mention of TTT. When I looked into it on the site, I think it was giving the expected delivery date as 25 Oct except for TTT which was still 25 Sept :confused: I had a look on the play.com site and their delivery date was 6th Nov!! That's when I lost my patience, cancelled my order and re-ordered them from Amazon in the US - very little difference in the price and you get all three packaged nicely as a set. But of course if you don't have a multi-region player that isn't an option unfortunately :( Delivery could be anything from tomorrow up to Oct 6 - not a lot of difference really, but impatience got the better of me :)
Lady Wendy
09-28-2006, 12:48 PM
Honey,
That would be the (Ok, let me practice my Brittishisms here) treacle on the cake! (How'd I do? )
:lol:
LOL...you'll have to do better than that if you want to pass as a Brit !! Whoever heard of treacle on cake ?!!! No, the correct phrase is "the icing on the cake" !!
For anyone who would like to go to the screening of "Bobby", I am intending to book tickets tomorrow at the latest, lest they sell out fast...you never know these days !! If I can get tickets for the Friday evening, I will...failing that, it will have to be Friday 27th at 1pm Lunchtime...
honeyelf
09-28-2006, 02:17 PM
Pass as a Brit? I rather think not! ;) I expect I'll end up wandering around London wishing I could turn on the 'subtitles' option! I'm hopeless; it's taken probably five viewings of GSH to get some of the dialogue.
Although I did manage to get through Sexy Beast the other night whilst knitting. ;) Of course in watching Sexy Beast one only needs a familiarity with two Brittish profanities to understand a word Ben Kingsley says! :p
Um, to try and bring this back on topic, there are thematic similarities between GSH and Sexy Beast in the sense of contrast. My husband and I were surprised at how much we liked the latter. (Goes without saying that I like the former as well.)
Matt grows out of his somewhat feminized, dissafected self through his association with the Green Street Elite and their anti-social ways. He embraces his aggressive nature, and then tames it to his use, and the end of the film seems to suggest that his newly discovered backbone will serve him well in the corporate world.
In Sexy Beast Gal seems to end by embracing his feminine side, and figuratively burying his coarser masculine nature, and it all made me wonder if Gal wouldn't have been better off by incorporating some of the better parts of his masculinity. I found Gal's somewhat affected and shallow ways almost as repugnant as Don Logan's brutality. I'm still not sure if the film-maker was trying to poke fun at the modern sensitive male, or advocating that men incorporate their masculinity rather than deny it. I think I lean toward the latter view myself.
Well, this is without doubt one of my weirder contributions! :o
honey~
Mechtild
09-28-2006, 08:15 PM
Well, no wonder I haven't had any reply notices for ages. It's a new thread! D'OH! :rolleyes: :p
~ Mechtild
Achila
09-28-2006, 10:35 PM
Well, no wonder I haven't had any reply notices for ages. It's a new thread! D'OH! :rolleyes: :p
~ Mechtild
So sorry, Mech -- I wish I'd thought to mention it to you on LJ. :o
Random
09-29-2006, 05:08 AM
Well, I haven't been here for a while, :( but I saw this, and had to post it!
(From today's Daily Mail, p53)
Watch out for... John Hurt and Elijah Wood, who are in negotiations to star in the movie The Oxford Murders, about the hunt for a mathematical serial killer. Someone close to the production described it as like a demented edition of Inspector Morse. The film is based on the novel by Guillermo Martinez, and if Mr Hurt and Mr Wood agree to do it, they would play a professor of logic and a graduate student who investigate a series of bizarre killings at a university. Director Alex de la Iglesla wants to begin filming in January.
It's on the IMDB but only Hurt is listed
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0488604/
More info about the novel here:
http://plus.maths.org/issue34/reviews/book2/index.html
Will Elijah be the Argentinian??
Hope this isn't old news!
Mechtild
09-29-2006, 08:19 AM
Oh, Random! Your news is the most sensational since LotR, Elijah-acting-wise, for me. How I hope it is true! If it were, he'd be working with a GREAT actor (John Hurt), and in what would have to be an intelligent script, and, set in Britain. In Oxford (one of my dream cities to one day visit)! And, if the student is Argentinian, the character'd have to have some sort of non-American accent, even if it's an acquired British one. Oh, I could faint away entirely, not to have to listen to yet another EW role with an uninteresting voice.
Thank you so much for posting!!!!! :k
~ Mechtild
P.S. You aren't the same person whose last name is "Fandom" on LJ, are you?
Achila
09-29-2006, 08:44 AM
I was just zooming in to deliver the same news! I adore John Hurt -- he's one of my all-time favorite actors, so to see him doing anything with Lij just about knocked me out of my seat just now. My question tho, is, if this' supposed to start filming in January, what about the Iggy movie? There has never been any talk about that since the initial flurry and Lij did say that was supposed to film late this year.
It's interesting to me that if this role is supposed to be Argentinian, then Gael Garcia Bernal would've been a more logical choice. Far be it for me to complain (I love Gael too)!
ETA: Just looked on the IMDB -- apparently Gael was their first choice and he turned it down.
Mechtild
09-29-2006, 08:52 AM
I will have to look up Gael Garcia Bernal. I don't know his work or who he is (but what's new? :rolleyes: ), Achila.
EXCITEMENT!!!!! I'm off to work, but I'll be looking forward to checking in this afternoon to see if there are any more gleanings.
~ Mechtild :D
Achila
09-29-2006, 08:54 AM
Gael is extremely talented. He's around Lij's age and has similar range (not to mention, he too is easy on the eyes :D ).
I personally think his best film is The Motorcycle Diaries, but Bad Education is definitely another standout role.
tgshaw
09-29-2006, 11:50 AM
Well, no wonder I haven't had any reply notices for ages. It's a new thread! D'OH! :rolleyes: :p
~ Mechtild
I really did try :( . I left the redirect up for a couple of days, and asked anyone who saw you "wandering around" to mention there was a new thread. AFAIK, you're the only one who depends on reply notices to check in. (It has been fairly quiet lately - but this news seems to have raised the noise level. ;) )
Since it has been kind of quiet, I've taken the opportunity to stand on the sidelines a bit. But now I see that led to missing some of my own birthday greetings :o - So, thanks to Mariole, Alyon, Skater girl, to Saile, Shireling, Blossom and Ezzie for the lovely pictures (and cake :) ). Thanks to Shelbyshire who has obviously seen my office - "It was littered with papers and pens and pencils." :p And to Prim - since the only "pressies" I got were the ones delivered here, I guess you could say there were some Tolkien-related ones :cool: .
Also very unlike me to miss the BBoys Bday. I was going to change my avatar for the day to one from the Party, but... Can you believe that the former Ms. "Frodo of the Day" couldn't remember how to do it? :eek: :rolleyes: Some time when I'm not in as much of a rush, I'll have to relearn the process.
sneaking
09-29-2006, 11:56 AM
Gael is great. Really good actor. If they were going to cast Daniel Bruhl too, that sounds to me like they aren't going necessarily Argentinian. Just any "foreign" will do. So if he does it, Elijah will be playing another "yank" fish out of water in the England. With more fatalities and maths but less drinking, swearing and fisticuffs this time.
This is pretty exciting even if I didn't like the book that much. I had a look at the director and the production company to see what they've done. Didn't recognised anything that the director has been involved in (but at least it's not a first feature) but the production company has done loads and loads of spanish language stuff plus all Ken Loach's recent films. So definitely an experienced set up with a long track record.
whiteling
09-29-2006, 12:45 PM
Really great news!! Thanks so much for posting, Random! :)
Elijah and John Hurt in one movie - a dream comes true.
Gael is great. Really good actor. If they were going to cast Daniel Bruhl too, that sounds to me like they aren't going necessarily Argentinian. Just any "foreign" will do.
Gael doesn't ring a bell for me either. :o *shakes hands with Mechtild*
But I agree, Sneaking, that Daniel Brühl would be a very good cast, too. This likeable young actor has a Spanish mother, as far as I know.
Argh, for days I meant to say - Yay! Honey, for your upcoming London visit and fingers crossed for attending the Bobby premiere with Lady Wendy and possibly others! Lucky dogs, you! :k
honeyelf
09-29-2006, 12:46 PM
Great news, Random. John Hurt has such a rumpled face, he'd be an interesting contrast with Elijah wouldn't he? John Hurt was great as Caligula in I, Claudius! Waaaaay back when, that was. He was young and rather attractive then. Of course so was I with the attractiveness that comes with extreme youth! :lol:
Gael Garcia Bernal is very easy on the eyes. I'm looking forward to seeing The Science of Sleep, a Michel Gondry film. One degree of seperation there.
And another one degree; anybody else at least passingly curious about Children of Men? Charlie Hunnam and Clive Owen in the same movie!
honey!
Mechtild
09-29-2006, 02:34 PM
Heck, Honey, I loved John Hurt all the way from when he was in A Man For All Seasons playing Richard Rich, the sad, angsty social-climber willing to sell Sir Thomas More in order to be somebody. But I adored him the most as Quentin Crisp in The Naked Civil Servant, a tour de force for him. I think there's not just the contrast of rumpled face and smooth face to look forward to, but the huge difference in voices. John Hurt's voice is as rumply and just-got-out-of-bed as his face.
tg, I am sure you put up plenty of notices. But when I get an emailed notice, it shows me the text of whatever is the new post. If I'm not particularly interested in the topic of the comment, I tend not to bother opening the thread, which may have many other posts after that, backed up behind the one that shows up in my email. That's how I miss things, including the new thread.
I do hope he's not going to play American, though, Sneaking. Maybe having to work with a different accent would help give him a "handle" to build a character on that's more distinct from himself. It seemed to help with Frodo. Every actor needs some external quirks or distinctive mannerisms to help him make a part come alive. EW, too. He'd need a dialect coach, though, or he'dll end up with an accent [like the one I always make fun of but which I won't mention yet again].
Anyway, I'm ex-cit-ed!
ETA: Oh, Achila, "The Motorcycle Diaries" - I have definitely heard of that, out of it as I am. It gets checked out the library on a regular basis (the DVD).
~ Mechtild
Achila
10-04-2006, 04:45 AM
A very good review of Bobby:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217697,00.html
And the relevant bit, from our point of view is:
Some other terrific performances in Bobby: Freddie Rodriguez (from Six Feet Under) as a hotel waiter; Fishburne as a Yoda-like chef; and Lindsay Lohan with Elijah Wood as a young couple with a decision to make. Lohans public life is so awful that its easy to write her off, or gossip the movie off based on that persona. But with this and with Prairie Home Companion, shes proven a lot this year as an actress. If she ever cuts out the shenanigans, she will have a huge career.
And btw, the award Bobby won was the Biografilm Award. :D
Mechtild
10-04-2006, 08:49 AM
Well, it's encouraging to read such a good review of the film, Achila. Thanks so much for linking it. It did seem, however, that the only reason he mentioned EW was to identify him as the actor who was playing opposite Lohan, the real object of the reviewer's praise in those sentences. But it never hurts to be in scenes with people who are getting a lot of attention.
~ M
BunnieBugs
10-04-2006, 09:30 AM
Well, it's encouraging to read such a good review of the film, Achila. Thanks so much for linking it. It did seem, however, that the only reason he mentioned EW was to identify him as the actor who was playing opposite Lohan, the real object of the reviewer's praise in those sentences. I noticed that, as well. They were very careful to use a 'with' instead of an 'and'. Ah, well.
Someone I know saw the film at the TIFF, and she didn't care for it. She said the script was "really cheesy" and many of the actors (including Elijah) were stuck with thankless parts with bad lines. She said his performance was okay, but not his best, and that Lindsay was actually quite good (I'm imagining him purposely stepping back and allowing Lindsay to shine here. Maybe a self-protective mechanism ;)). However, she also said that, during the credits, Elijah's name received polite applause, where Lindsay's was met with stoney silence. :p
txtac
10-04-2006, 12:17 PM
Just ran across this ad. Thought that some of our Faculty-ites overseas might be able to download and see TOL's movies before they are availible in their region... ??? Or, if you can't find a TOL movie in your area, you might be able to download it here. :z:
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BunnieBugs
10-04-2006, 05:23 PM
Though there's nothing there but the preview so far, the Bobby website (http://bobby-the-movie.com/) has gone live. :cool:
Mechtild
10-04-2006, 06:05 PM
I thought the preview was well-done and wanted to save it. There didn't seem a way to do it, though. I wish I were better at the technical side of web life.
~ Mechtild
Brummie
10-04-2006, 06:19 PM
A belated Happy Birthday to tg. So sorry I missed it, I've been away for a fortnight's holiday visiting Czech Republic and Austria. There is a link with the topic of this thread; we discovered that a small hotel where we stayed between Prague and Karlovy Vary had had a famous guest. A subsequent Google search led to Faculty posts of August 2004 and uncovered the fact that not only did he stay in the same hotel but also in the same room :D .
Remember this (http://www.arsys.cz/press/pdf04/Press_30_04.pdf), those of you who were here at the time?
The room was definitely OTT in terms of furnishings and indeed not easily forgotten. Good thing he is small and light; the three inch thick mattress on wooden slats was no match for Mr Brummie's 12 stone weight.
Oh, and I see Honey is coming to London later this month. Welcome to the UK, Honey
BunnieBugs
10-04-2006, 06:38 PM
Oh, Brummie, that is so fabulous! How many of us can say that we slept in the same room as Elijah, let alone the same bed? ;)
Did you see the hotel dog?
Mechtild
10-04-2006, 07:00 PM
That is SO COOL Brummie!!!!! :eek: :p
~ Mechtild
honeyelf
10-04-2006, 07:07 PM
Bunnie said: How many of us can say that we slept in the same room as Elijah, let alone the same bed?
The same bed!?! Goodness Gracious! What did I miss?? ;) ;) ;)
Brummie said: The room was definitely OTT in terms of furnishings and indeed not easily forgotten. Good thing he is small and light; the three inch thick mattress on wooden slats was no match for Mr Brummie's 12 stone weight.
Oh, and I see Honey is coming to London later this month. Welcome to the UK, Honey
:eek: Being a comfort loving creature, I'm hoping the hotels in your country are a bit more...refined! :)
And thanks for the welcome, Brummie! :k
Just out of curiuosity, what color was that room? (By way of explanation, I'll just say that I plan to spend a lot of time in the Victoria and Albert Decorative Arts wing.)
honey
Brummie
10-04-2006, 07:11 PM
Oh, Brummie, that is so fabulous! How many of us can say that we slept in the same room as Elijah, let alone the same bed? ;) (even if not at the same time :eek: ;) )
I know. Of course I got teased about it for the rest of the holiday :o .
Did you see the hotel dog?
No, sadly there didn't appear to be a dog around.
The picture in the link was posted above my head height outside the entrance to the hotel. I wouldn't have seen it had it not caught Mr B.'s eye as we were leaving.
Edit: Honey, the room was red, lots of red velvet. You can see a colour photo here http://www.ln.cz/union/enghome-index.htm Click on Actions or Restaurant, then click on Hotel.
Achila
10-04-2006, 07:14 PM
Just out of curiuosity, what color was that room? (By way of explanation, I'll just say that I plan to spend a lot of time in the Victoria and Albert Decorative Arts wing.)
honey
Didn't we hear at the time that it was red?
ETA after seeing the picture: Yes, it very definitely is red :lol:
ceefour
10-04-2006, 10:27 PM
EW wrote in the note that Brummie linkedThe "Red" room was lovely.*C4 now being driven slowly insane because she can't get "Meet Me in the Red Room" :eek: :o from "Moulin Rouge!" out of her brain*
C-make it stop!-4
sneaking
10-05-2006, 12:19 PM
The UK mag Total Film have a section with some of Viggo's LOTR pictures: the "Elijah in the snow" one is a complete full page with no text on it (and it's in earlier as well a quarterish page size in the index bit). It's obviously only magazine quality but you can see detail like the snow crystals melting in his hair in the little bit of the picture that's in sharp focus.
Elijah Wood, mock-suffering in a New Zealand snowfall, perfume-ad-style. Wood, Mortensen and Dominic Monaghan had guzzled a bottle of whisky and the pic captures Wood post-snowball fight.
Brummie
10-06-2006, 09:49 AM
With the help of an online dictionary, I have made a translation of the blurb accompanying the photograph in the Louny Press. The newspaper is dated 30 July 2004.
Last week, the world famous American actor Elijah Wood, best known for the main role in Lord of the Rings, the face of Frodo, visited Louny. Accommodation in a luxury apartment at the Union Hotel was booked incognito under a pseudonym. This is what the hotel manager, Miroslav Kucera, said to us.
"His stay was strictly secret in order to preserve the actor's privacy. The actor was alone and behaved very modestly and in a friendly manner. He was not stingy with autographs and willingly personalised photographs of himself as well as with the Hotel Union mascot, Benem. On departure he signed the Hotel Union commemorative book."
That's our boy. :)
But I have to confess to feeling intrigued. I had thought he must have stayed here with the rest of the cast and crew while filming EII, but apparently not. But why come to Louny? and alone???? :confused: Unless, of course, he was doing a similar trip to us ;)
ETA.
Achila, that makes sense, given journalistic licence with dates. Although Louny is 50 miles and a one and a half hour drive from KV, if he didn't want to or couldn't stay in KV itself, it would be better to stay there than in Prague and have to contend with the Prague morning traffic.
Achila
10-06-2006, 09:56 AM
How close to Karlovy Vary is that hotel, Brummie? Because I thought it was during the film festival that he stayed there.
ceefour
10-13-2006, 12:43 PM
Hellooo? Anybody here?
*C4 opens the window to let some fresh air in, puts the kettle on for tea and finds a comfy chair*
While out picking up The End (the last Lemony Snicket book) for Young Master and Miss ceefour this afternoon, I came across a display stand full of Happy Feet books for children. The merchandising has begun! The publisher is Penguin Books. :lol: One item I was sorely tempted by was a pair of little tappy thingeys you can put on your shoes to sound like Mumbles. :haha:
C4
Mariole
10-13-2006, 01:20 PM
I just read that the teaser trailer for Harry Potter six is going to be attached to Happy Feet. The HP fans were speculating that this will make Happy Feet very successful, because they'll go to see it for the trailer, if nothing else. I hope they're right! The expected release date is November 17-- somewhere. I'm not sure of the location. It varies around the world.
tgshaw
10-13-2006, 02:35 PM
Mariole, I hope they're right, too - It would only be fair. Those who were around in late 2001 may remember that the original Harry Potter movie opened at Thanksgiving and LotR/FotR just before Christmas. Warner Bros. threw everything they had into promoting HP. It opened on a huge number of screens; I remember seeing it on the marquee of a movie theater in a small town I drove through going to my mom's for Thanksgiving - on opening weekend! - and that theater never gets movies until they've been out at least a month. Warner Bros. also bought up blocks of hundreds of tickets to give to corporate hangers-on. They didn't put nearly as much effort into promoting LotR, increasing the suspicions among LotR followers that Warner Bros. wanted NewLine to go down the tubes so they could shut it down (they'd acquired it not too long before that). And, lemmee tell you, if the LotR movies would have flopped, NewLine would no longer exist - it was a make-or-break project for them. From this end of things, it's easy to say, "How could LotR have possibly been a flop?" but it was nowhere near a sure thing.
Warner Bros. also owes Elijah a couple more, after not even releasing CofF, and barely promoting EII. :mad:
Not that I have anything against the HP movies. In 2001, the whole thing was played up by the media as a huge rivalry, and the people involved with both movies said that wasn't true - and I believe they were telling the truth. AFAIK, it was only the "parent company" that chose a side.
C4 - I'm hoping for lots and lots of cute cuddly Mumble dolls out there. :p I've had my little 99-cent "Mumble" (beanie-baby-type penguin) sitting on top of my office computer monitor for over a year now and have kind of gotten attached to him, but it'll be fun to see the real thing.
Mechtild
10-13-2006, 03:39 PM
What's CoFF?
~ M
shireling
10-13-2006, 03:54 PM
What's CoFF?
Mechtild ~ CofF = 'Chain of Fools', the last film Elijah worked on before leaving for NZ to make LOTR. I don't understand why this film went straight to video - I thought it was really funny :)
tgshaw
10-14-2006, 07:25 AM
...and I'm guessing that if Elijah hadn't been in LotR, it would still be available only on a VCD with Chinese subtitles.
txtac
10-14-2006, 12:44 PM
ceefour wrote:
One item I was sorely tempted by was a pair of little tappy thingeys you can put on your shoes to sound like Mumbles.
Huh??? Are they shaped like little penguin feet, or are they the old metal "taps" that you had to nail onto the heels of your shoes/boots to save the wear and tear of your "good leather shoes"?
The older style metal taps made you sound :cool: when you walked down the hallways at school in the 50's. In the sixties, they were just :rolleyes: . I think most people stopped using metal taps in the seventies as soft soled shoes became the norm. Now that most people are wearing tennis shoes as everyday footwear, how are you going to nail metal taps to them? Please tell me that these Mumble "tappy thingeys" are little plastic penguin feet that children are going to be tying to the tops of their sneakers.
If you have dogs at home, you know how they instinctively go for feet, trouser cuffs and anything that looks fun and tasty attached to feet. How gnawable do these "tappy thingeys" look? Are they digestible, or just fun to chew on?
Mariole
10-14-2006, 12:49 PM
...and I'm guessing that if Elijah hadn't been in LotR, it would still be available only on a VCD with Chinese subtitles.
I believe you're right. It's sad, because it's a really fun movie! *sigh* Some people have no taste-- or perhaps no courage. *sighs again*
ceefour
10-14-2006, 01:18 PM
For txtac--
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9780843120929&itm+4
The tappers are attached to elastic which go around the toe of the shoe.
(And no comments that they come with a coloring book and the intended age range is 3 to 6.)
C4
BunnieBugs
10-14-2006, 08:55 PM
There is a clip from Bobby (a scene between Elijah & Lindsey) up at YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ckVvgAuD-0), for those who want to see it. It may be slightly spoilery.
Enjoy! :cool:
Mechtild
10-14-2006, 10:06 PM
Thank you, Bunnie, you're a doll! :k
~ Mechtild
Mechtild
10-16-2006, 09:17 AM
I'm sure every one of you has already seen this Happy Feet trailer, but I hadn't. If you open the link, it's the third one down, called, "Australian Trailer". In it, there's quite a bit of EW voice-over.
http://au.movies.yahoo.com/Happy+Feet/movie/12296/trailers/
I am not linking it just to offer a sample of EW's voice-over for the film. Having seen it, I wanted to say that as someone who had zero interest in this picture ("Yech; not ANOTHER computer-animated cartoon...!"), this trailer has made me really want to see it, EW or not. I would be thrilled if it turned out to be a really good film, and a film that droves of people end up going to see. I so much want to see his name and career associated with a "hit" again. I think he could really use the boost, even if he still wants to be known as Mr. Arty-independent-film-actor.
~ M
txtac
10-17-2006, 01:09 PM
Thanks ceefour ;) I think that I have a dog in that age range. :haha:
If you check out that clip on YouTube for Bobby, after the clip is over there is another clip of Elijah called Elijah- Your Beautiful. It is the LOTR "A Day in the Life of a Hobbitt" which should should also be saved on everyone's computors... :) Go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK3fAvzyS8M&NR
Achila
10-17-2006, 04:54 PM
Have you guys seen this adorable site yet?
http://www2.warnerbros.com/happyfeet/
All sorts of games and downloads and trailers, etc. -- and Elijah gets first billing :D
Mechtild
10-17-2006, 05:08 PM
This is like that "Australian" trailer. It looks GRRRRRRRREAT! I am very excited! I so hope it's really really really really good! :z:
And that everybody in the world goes to it.
~ M
Brummie
10-19-2006, 10:20 AM
New still from Bobby here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Firiel50/Bobbystill.jpg).
I'm pleased to see The Times is really promoting this film, particularly as their main film critic was very dismissive of both GSH and EII. The only other picture in the paper promoting the London Film Festival is also of Elijah and Lindsay.
Achila
10-19-2006, 10:24 AM
Thanks for the pic, Brummie! Notice the CTJ? It's immortal now!
BunnieBugs
10-19-2006, 10:26 AM
Thanks, Brummie! I so love that out of all the people in this film, they still choose to use Elijah in most of the publicity shots. :)
Thanks for the pic, Brummie! Notice the CTJ? It's immortal now!You know that's not the actual CTJ, right? It sure looks similar, but there are definite differences.
Mechtild
10-19-2006, 03:18 PM
What's the CTJ?
~ M
BunnieBugs
10-19-2006, 03:26 PM
What's the CTJ?Crappy Tan Jacket. Also known as The One Jacket. :D A staple of his wardrobe for so long. I wonder if he finally ditched it? Think how much he could raise for charity on Ebay...
Mechtild
10-19-2006, 04:33 PM
Crappy Tan Jacket. Also known as The One Jacket.
Thanks for the illumination!
:lol:
~ M
honeyelf
10-19-2006, 04:56 PM
Thanks for the pic, Brummie! Notice the CTJ? It's immortal now!
As the (self-proclaimed) Faculty textile expert, I can say with certainty that is NOT the One True Jacket. The pocket detail is different. I can't tell you how much I wanted it to be the One Jacket, The Crappy Tan Jacket but alas, 'tis not so. :(
honey - dashing off to change my American $$ for British Pounds - !
Shelbyshire
10-19-2006, 09:01 PM
honey - dashing off to change my American $$ for British Pounds - ! Have a safe and wonderful trip, Honey! I'm green with envy.
It seems the same plane tg took across the pond is your flight, too!! Just cross off New Zealand and write England on it. ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/Elijah%20Wood/passingofanage5b.jpg
Mariole
10-19-2006, 09:35 PM
I love the Crappy Tan Jacket! It will give me a giggle when I watch the movie, even if it's just a Crappy Tan Imposter Jacket. :)
tgshaw
10-20-2006, 12:00 PM
How about an imperfect reproduction of the CTJ? (Geesh - they shoulda used Weta :rolleyes:.)
Speaking of textiles - Do I remember correctly that the One Scarf demands nothing but Ivory Snow? It doesn't seem to be carried by every store, but I'll keep looking.
sneaking
10-20-2006, 12:25 PM
The BBC movie (http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2006/10/20/high_noon_october_20_2006_news_article.shtml) site has about John Hurt getting cast in the Oxford Murders in their daily news slot. I'm not sure if this is just very old news filling a slot or whether it indicates that some progress has been made on this film. No mention of any particular actor who may be of interest to faculty members. The only bit that I didn't know is that it says it's a Spanish-French-British production.
Edit: I get the impression something has changed in the production. It's clearly one of those films where they cobble the money together from a variety of sources. Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117952302.html?categoryid=13&cs=1) has this:
COLOGNE -- John Hurt will take the lead role in "The Oxford Murders," an adaptation of Guillermo Martinez's thriller novel by helmer Alex de la Iglesia ("The Perfect Crime"). The Spanish-French-British production has received E600,000 ($770,000) from European film funding body Eurimages.. I think the BBC have just lifted it straight from Variety but dropped the money stuff missing that Hurt was cast a while ago and that it's the money thing which is news.
honeyelf
10-20-2006, 12:32 PM
TG,The One Scarf would prefer Ivory Snow (almost typed Ivory Snot :lol: ). But any gentle soap would do, even your own shampoo, provided you don't use anything that'll strip the oils from it. Just don't use Woollite! Nasty stuff on textiles, I'm not kidding! If you have a local fabric store you could venture in and ask if they have stuff called "textile soak" or something for delicate fabrics.
Thanks for the lovely conveyance, Shelbyshire! :) (I spelled that wrong, didn't I?)
I'll be posting a review of Bobby as soon as I can.
I have a faint foolish hope that Paris je'Taime will still be in Paris theaters. It was as of last month!
hugs,
honey!
Alyon
10-22-2006, 08:48 PM
HI there. As HoneyElf took off to England on Friday, I took off to Los Angeles, where I've spent the weekend with my daughter who is now in college here ( I'm here til tomorrow). Spent a good deal of time in Amoeba Records today--just because. ;)
Just stopping in because I haven't in awhile and so HI everyone!! And I am so anxious to hear what Honey and others have to tell us about Bobby!!!
Lots and lots of Happy Feet ads and billboards down here in Hollywood and environs. I wasn't really looking forward to this as much as everyone else was--coz I just haven't caught a lot of these newer animated features--but now I'm getting excited. It's hot here--and pictures of penguins on ice are ever so appealing. :D And Elijah's name on a poster....also quite appealing....but that's a given
All right. Back to lurkerdom til I get back home. Take care everybody! :k
sneaking
10-23-2006, 02:16 PM
New still from Bobby here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Firiel50/Bobbystill.jpg).
I'm pleased to see The Times is really promoting this film, particularly as their main film critic was very dismissive of both GSH and EII. The only other picture in the paper promoting the London Film Festival is also of Elijah and Lindsay.
I hadn't noticed before, but the Times has an entire Bobby Section (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,32329,00.html). I don't think there's anything new but it's interesting that it is there at all. It's the only LFF film to have one (maybe because they can do all the historical stuff, like linking back to the Times news articles) or perhaps the Weinsteins have some evil tie in with the Rupert Murdoch empire.
Achila
10-23-2006, 03:05 PM
These are the details:
When Steve's new relationship gives Francine empty nest syndrome, she tries to convince Stan to have another baby. Meanwhile, Roger longs to experience college life as a wild coed but ends up teaching class, and Haley finds a new crush in her classmate Ethan (guest voice Elijah Wood), who turns out to be far from normal in the "Iced, Iced Babies" episode of AMERICAN DAD Sunday, Nov.12 (8:30-9:00 PM ET /PT).
Yesterday, Faculty members Pelagia, ceefour and I went to see The Prestige together and were treated to a trailer of Bobby. TOL looks so cute in this film!
tgshaw
10-26-2006, 08:47 AM
FWIW - I just saw my first Happy Feet-related TV ad -- for flu vaccine. Okay, I guess I get it: penguins - cold - winter - flu :haha:
No dialogue from the penguins, except that little "Whoop!" at the end, like the first trailer. Just dancing and voice-over.
Thanks for the American Dad heads-up, Achila. You can tell how much TV I watch by the fact that I had to look up the show to see if it was animated or if we were talking about another telephone-voice Ethan. Made by the same people who gave us Family Guy - the little bit of which I saw I couldn't stand. Hoping this one is better - I'll take political humor over scatological any day. ;)
sneaking, encouraging news on the Times' Bobby section. :cool:
Achila
10-26-2006, 09:03 AM
Agreed, TG. The Family Guy was pretty awful -- I don't have much hope for this one either.
Mariole
10-26-2006, 11:51 AM
I'll take political humor over scatological any day.
Absolutely! Whatever happened to our clever humor? It certainly seems in short supply these days.
Great news about Bobby and HF. I hope both movies turn out terrific. :)
sneaking
10-26-2006, 03:31 PM
The Bobby review (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,24169-2422828,00.html) from our friends the Times (more Bobby that you can shake a stick at). I suspect that they might be biased since they obviously sponsoring the Bobby gala showing but a very good review anyway. Also, I wonder if since the Times is so involved with sponsoring this screening, the other "quality" papers will be biased against it...
tgshaw
10-26-2006, 05:40 PM
I don't know how it will be in other countries, but in the U.S. I think Bobby is still too recent history to be treated objectively (i.e., on its merits as a movie) by all reviewers. It's already evident in some of the reviews that have been published. What some people consider moving speeches, others consider trite campaign verbiage. I think even a lot of people who weren't around in 1968 will see the movie as a political statement which, in fact, it is. Will a conservative reviewer feel free to say it's a great movie - if it is - or a liberal one be open to bashing it if it deserves that?
I'm actually not sure how I'm going to feel about it. I was part of Eugene McCarthy's "children's crusade" in 1968, and there was definite resentment toward RFK among McCarthy supporters, because he jumped into the race as late as he did, appealing to the same base that McCarthy had been building for months. Of course, the difference is that RFK might actually have won, but when you're in junior high your ideals don't leave much room for practicalities like that.
Brummie
10-28-2006, 08:30 AM
Spent a most enjoyable afternoon yesterday, a good film seen in very good company. Spoiler-free review follows.
Bobby depicts the assassination of Robert Kennedy against a snapshot of life and lives at the time. Like the disparate pieces of a jigsaw puzzle these gradually connect together, some on the inside with many connections, some at the edge with few. The film moves along well on the whole, but would have benefited from the drastic pruning, if not elimination, of the Anthony Hopkins/Harry Belafonte scenes which add almost nothing to the overall picture and tend to slow the film down. No doubt there is a limit to how far you can cut the scenes of your major star and executive producer to boot. Many of the storylines are intermingled and it seems that Estevez has tried to cover most of the contemporary issues. If, as has been reported, he was forced to write a additional part for the Russian wife of one of the producers, then this has been all to the good. It provides a glimpse of what was happening in the wider world and prevents the film from being totally US-centric. There is no time for very much in the way of character development and the Elijah/Lindsay storyline in particular seems rushed, with one or two crucial scenes missing (says she, trying to be objective). In other words (giving way to total subjectivity) there is not nearly enough Elijah. Maybe its because Im attuned to him, but I find he can convey emotions with a clarity and intensity that nobody else comes near.
Excerpts from Bobbys speeches play over the closing scenes, but ones attention is taken too much by what is on screen to hear them. It might have been more effective to show those scenes to a background of music and have the speeches played while focussing on individuals.
All in all, Estevez succeeds in showing, against the background of the time, what Bobby Kennedy stood for and what was lost with his death. Definitely worth seeing. I shall go again when it is released here in January.
I wrote the above before seeing this.
I don't know how it will be in other countries, but in the U.S. I think Bobby is still too recent history to be treated objectively (i.e., on its merits as a movie) by all reviewers.
Speaking from the perspective of the UK, where we may have a view on but are not involved with American politics, I think it unlikely that many critics would find their political leanings affecting their reviews of this particular film. Were it about recent events in Britain, of course it would be a a different story. Even so, I think most professional critics would at least try to be objective.
ETA Warning Major spoiler on IMDB Bobby front page.
Lady Wendy
10-29-2006, 01:51 AM
Brummie,
Speaking from the perspective of the UK, where we may have a view on but are not involved with American politics, I think it unlikely that many critics would find their political leanings affecting their reviews of this particular film. Were it about recent events in Britain, of course it would be a a different story. Even so, I think most professional critics would at least try to be objective.
Yes, I think, or at least, would like to think that you're right about that, but you never know...so far, at least, the reviews have mostly been very good :-
Reviews (http://www.mrqe.com/lookup?^Bobby+(2006))
I thoroughly enjoyed our little mini-moot, so maybe we might do it again, when this film gets released to the general audience next January ?...
For anyone else here who isn't familiar with my journal, my own review is up as of yesterday, and if you would like a link to this, just PM me here and let me know !!
It is a little long, and picture heavy to post it here...
PS... Elijah was marvellous, but we could have done with MORE !!
BunnieBugs
10-31-2006, 12:34 AM
As it's kind of quiet here, I thought I'd pass this along that Sneaking found earlier today:
John's currently in Lexington right now rehearsing with the Apples In Stereo sitting in as drummer for some shows next week and will be in NY shooting a new Apples video with Elijah Wood directing. source (http://thatisright.blogspot.com/2006/10/john-dufilho-best-alternative-album.html)
In case you aren't familiar, Apples in Stereo is the band that signed to Elijah's Simian Records label and their new album (due in February) will be its debut release.
I'm just so excited that he's going to direct something, and it seems so incredibly appropriate that it be a music video; his two great passions coming together for his directorial debut! :cool:
tgshaw
10-31-2006, 02:42 PM
That is great news, Bunnie!
Now - How did you get in here? :confused: For the last two days, I've been getting error messages whenever I try to get to KD. Ezzie has had the same problem. I don't know how she got in (she said something about "the back door"). I finally got in just now when I thought to try one of the links on my website to the Community Cafe.
Did you have any problems getting in? Maybe it depends on what page someone has bookmarked?
May explain why it's been quiet -- on the entire board! :eek:
sneaking
10-31-2006, 04:26 PM
Somebody likes Happy Feet (http://www.mcnblogs.com/thehotblog/archives/2006/10/ill_show_you_th.html) at least. Actually make that two people because moriarty for aicn chimes in the fighty fighty idiot comments and I think he really liked it too (perhaps a language/sanity warning for the comments but the main bit of the blog is fine). Of course, David Poland's opinions are erratic and all over the place in terms of having an actual basis in reality but it's better than if he didn't like it.
"...lets just say that Happy Feet is a pretty clear lock to gross somewhere around $200 million and to win the Oscar for Animated Feature."
I wouldn't take the Oscar prediction overly seriously (it's not a lock but it is a contender) without the film having been released but the money thing is probably about right.
The words he mainly uses are audacious and flawed (there's something relating to the basic structure of the story he's not keen on but it doesn't seem to stop him liking it, just "That is why this really isnt Finding Nemo or The Incredibles" level of good). Audacious isn't really what I was expecting from HF but I really like the sound of that compared to just merely hyper cute or entertaining.
Edit: I found another review via oscarwatch: I am in love with HAPPY FEET. It's a wonder. It's supercalifragilisticexpealidotious! (http://www.sbiff.org/blog/2006/10/boggie-wonderland.htm)
BunnieBugs
11-01-2006, 01:08 AM
Now - How did you get in here? :confused: For the last two days, I've been getting error messages whenever I try to get to KD. Ezzie has had the same problem. I don't know how she got in (she said something about "the back door"). I finally got in just now when I thought to try one of the links on my website to the Community Cafe.
Did you have any problems getting in? Maybe it depends on what page someone has bookmarked?
I got in through a bookmark on the Community Cafe page. In fact, I hadn't realized that there were any problems with accessing the site -- I just thought it was quiet!
While I'm here, I'll drop a couple of links:
First, a lovely print interview (http://www.movieseer.com/InterviewDetailBil.asp?iID=94&aID=2194&Channel=2) about Happy Feet (just a little spoilery) which also includes the tidbit of information that Elijah has recorded vocals for an animated film that Tim Burton is producing, based on Shane Acker's award-winning short film, 9. :cool: If you're curious, Sneaking found an excerpt (at least, I don't think it's the whole thing) on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opq8R4gbN28&eurl=). Quite an interesting bit of film!
Also, Elijah was a guest on a radio show today. If you're interested in hearing him talk about his label, the band he's signed (the same one that he spent tonight directing a video for), and his love of music, you can hear it in streaming audio by going here (http://www.kexp.org/streamarchive/streamarchive.asp). Set the date for Oct. 31, the time for 11:10 a.m. and click "go." I just love listening to him talk about music! Well... or talk about anything, really. :rolleyes: But he just sounds so happy and relaxed and in his element in shows like this. It's just lovely to hear! :)
Mechtild
11-01-2006, 08:27 AM
I am listening to that interview right now, BunnieBugs. Thanks. Can't say I'll ever appreciate his taste in music, although there is a strong flavour of the Beatles (during their Sgt. Pepper-White Album era - which I still appreciate very much) running through the piece they played ("Energy" - the one he wants to direct a video for).
He does sound pleased and enthusiastic - but relaxed, as you say - which is nice to hear. :)
~ M
Achila
11-02-2006, 06:29 AM
...psst....photos are up at www.wireimage.com (some at Getty Images too) of last night's "Bobby" premiere at the AFI fest...pass it on... ;)
Also, if you're a Comcast cable television subscriber, there's a new Happy Feet feature. Go to On Demand, then Movies and click on Happy Feet. There are a few little documentaries about the film (one that includes Elijah), the movie trailers and a doco on penguins. All very very cute!
saile
11-02-2006, 12:31 PM
Oh thanks Bunnie for the links and updates.:k Actually your elijah_finds is brilliant. I've got that on my toolbar.
saile
BunnieBugs
11-02-2006, 12:50 PM
Actually your elijah_finds is brilliant. I've got that on my toolbar.Thanks, Saile. It's working out pretty well, so far! As long as people keep remembering to post their "finds" there, it should be a pretty cool, central place to get info and pictures. :)
Achila, is there any way you can provide a link for the Comcast goodies? I can't seem to find anything beyond just the basic business site to where the good stuff is! :confused:
Achila
11-02-2006, 12:56 PM
Achila, is there any way you can provide a link for the Comcast goodies? I can't seem to find anything beyond just the basic business site to where the good stuff is! :confused:
Sorry doll -- it's on TV, unfortunately. But do look around comcast.net, which is where their entertainment stuff is.
BunnieBugs
11-02-2006, 12:58 PM
Sorry doll -- it's on TV, unfortunately. But do look around comcast.net, which is where their entertainment stuff is.
Oh, sorry -- I assumed that you were talking about online stuff! D'oh! I'm poking around on there, but I've not found anything yet. Will keep looking. Thanks!
ceefour
11-03-2006, 12:58 PM
OT, but EW was in the movie-- :rolleyes:
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?z=y&cds2Pid=1745&ean=93624437628
http://www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=209
C4
ETA--
Kumari, Happy Birthday! :)
honeyelf
11-06-2006, 05:38 AM
Bunnie, thanks for the link to the radio interview, which I finally got to listen to. I can tell that Apples in Stereo CD is gonna be a hit at my house; it's got that little touch of the Beatles, Electric Light Orchestra and Flaming Lips, even a bit of They Might Be Giants - that will make it a big hit with us hopeless geeks.
Achila
11-07-2006, 11:11 AM
Happy Birthday to my dear friend, Pelagia!!! And in her honor, here's her favorite picture of TOL:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/e3_2004.jpg
(oh wait -- that's MY favorite picture...hang on... ;) THIS one!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/the-yank-behind-hi-res-059.jpg
Hope it's a wonderful day!
Honey, did you get to see Bobby while you were in the UK? Did you talk about it? Did I miss it?...
Mariole
11-07-2006, 12:40 PM
Happy Birthday, Pelagia! :D
Yes, Honey, welcome back! When you get a chance, please tell us all about it. Cheers!
honeyelf
11-07-2006, 12:48 PM
Happy Birthday, Pelagia! :k :k :k
http://static.flickr.com/121/291662419_2c3287e697_o.jpg
That's from a PSA urging young people to get out and vote, aired during the 2004 Superbowl. Gotta love his civic spirit! :)
Honey, did you get to see Bobby while you were in the UK? Did you talk about it? Did I miss it?...
I did get to see <i>Bobby</i>, along with WendyLady, Brummie, and JewelSong from the old "Frodo's Kitchen" thread at TORC. Sorry I didn't post about it; I was havin' too much fun in London, and then Paris!
Forgive me if while I just quote my review I posted elsewhere; homework beckons...
An ensemble cast is like a box of chocolates. There are often too many of those icky marzipans, not enough cherry chocolates, and a lot of chocolate covered marshmallows who imagine themselves truffles. But enough gumpishness.
I liked this movie alot, to my surprise. There were a few of the little sub-plots where not much happened. I wanted more of some of the sub-plots. (ETA: One in particular! :rolleyes: ) The speech over the end of the film was lovely, with many quotes that really touched my heart, but JewelSong and I both thought the montage of images at the same time distracted from the words. I look forward to seeing the film a second time to really hear all the speech. We all had our own memories of that day to share afterwards.
As for Elijah, his scenes were very few, but he did well, and the love story was sweet. My one quibble is that I wish he'd lose that breathy little boy voice. :-/
Thanks for the welcome back, Mariole! It's good to be back.
hugs,
honey!
ceefour
11-07-2006, 01:04 PM
It's Pelagia's birthday! Shiney!! ;)
C4
whiteling
11-07-2006, 02:36 PM
Happy Birthday, Pelagia! :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/happyfeet_Elijah.jpg
(Elijah doing Mumble voice work)
Let's hope he's not singing a birthday song for you!! ;)
Shelbyshire
11-07-2006, 02:58 PM
Happy Birthday Pelagia!
A present for you to play with...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/7552.jpg
Or, ;) if you prefer the real thing...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/42-17508245.jpg
ceefour
11-07-2006, 06:51 PM
EW will be on the Tavis Smiley show on PBS tomorrow or Thursday. Check your local PBS station listings.
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200611/20061108.html
C4
esmeraldabrandybuck
11-08-2006, 02:37 AM
http://www.overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/Ceefour06.jpg
Shelbyshire
11-08-2006, 06:57 AM
"Back off, Sean, it's ceefour's birthday not yours!"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/aa_wood_elijah_cast_04-1.jpg
Happy Birthday ceefour!
Achila
11-08-2006, 07:36 AM
Happy Birthday to my dear ceefour -- can't wait to celebrate!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/Elijah/rpassing043.jpg
AND newsflash -- another TV appearance -- Conan, 16 Nov. (CORRECTED)
BunnieBugs
11-08-2006, 08:31 AM
Happy Birthday, Pelagia and CeeFour! :)
Achila, I believe Elijah's appearance on Conan O'Brien is scheduled for the 16th.
And the special about penguins that Elijah is on (hosting? Narrating?) will be on the Discovery Kids channel on November 19, 6:30 and 9:00 PM ET. Yay, penguins! :D
Achila
11-08-2006, 08:52 AM
Thanks for the correction, Bunnie. Yep, I just checked it and it is indeed 16 Nov (darned Google alerts with the wrong dates...grrr...)
whiteling
11-08-2006, 09:32 AM
Happy Birthday, CEEFOUR! :)
Elijah's looking forward to celebrate your special day ---
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Elijah_brownshirt.jpg
----------
(darned Google alerts with the wrong dates...grrr...)
Seems to be a general problem - if I would rely on TV dates given by Google alert, I'd never get to see anything. They arrive at least one day late on regular basis... :rolleyes:
honeyelf
11-08-2006, 09:49 AM
Happy Birthday, CeeFour! :k :k :k
http://static.flickr.com/101/292343626_891f65c472_o.jpg
That's from the Happy Feet press conference last week.
AND newsflash -- another TV appearance -- Conan, 16 Nov. (CORRECTED)
Huh, my TiVo says that's on 11/17. Guess I'll record both dates just in case.
Thanks, Bunnie, for the heads-up about the penguin rescue special. Hope somebody nabs it, because I think Discovery Kids is a premium channel.
honey!
BLOSSOM
11-08-2006, 11:04 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CEEFOUR!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Elijah/EJW1.jpg
Hope you're enjoying yourself! :)
And a belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY! to PELAGIA for yesterday. Apologies for being late.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Blossom10/Elijah/William1sm.jpg
BunnieBugs
11-08-2006, 11:11 AM
Huh, my TiVo says that's on 11/17. Guess I'll record both dates just in case. That may be because Conan's show is on in the wee hours of the morning. So, the night of the 16th is really the (very early) morning of the 17th.
tgshaw
11-08-2006, 03:10 PM
ha--aA-A-A-A-A-A-A-PPY BIRTHDAY C4 AND PELAGIA!!
http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/157a43b0.jpg
___________
Some SSP -
I've finally gotten my Oxford photos published. They're on 3 of the 4 new pages in the "Tolkien at Oxford" series, with the first page of photos here (http://www.frodolivesin.us/id336.htm). I managed to catch a pic of Brummie in front of the Eagle and Child - but not her face (my photographic skills are not, shall we say, professional. :rolleyes: )
The What's New (http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/) page has lots and lots of Happy Feet stuff ready for ordering (I'm assuming that a "dancing, speaking" Mumble plush doll would speak in a recognizable voice?). Also the original soundtrack, the video/computer game for various platforms, several plush penguins, and lots of books, stickers, games... The same page has links to 2007 calendars. The b&w portrait calendar has an especially nice "cover hobbit."
--In searching through Amazon, I learned that the term "Happy Feet" isn't new - it comes from some of the jazz/swing dance music popular during the big band era. I hadn't known that before, but there's no way the people making the movie didn't - I think that's a neat touch.
--Something that's not on the "What's New" page because I just noticed it: there are samples from the soundtrack to listen to now on its page at Amazon.
-- I also noticed that Burger King is going to be giving away Happy Feet toys with its kid's meals.
Achila
11-08-2006, 03:16 PM
"Happy Feet" was also the name of a Steve Martin comedy routine! :cool:
BunnieBugs
11-08-2006, 03:20 PM
The What's New (http://www.frodolivesin.us/new/) page has lots and lots of Happy Feet stuff ready for ordering (I'm assuming that a "dancing, speaking" Mumble plush doll would speak in a recognizable voice?). Don't assume too much -- I have heard that it is not Elijah's voice (maybe they used "Baby Mumble's" voice?), but that's not been confirmed.
-- I also noticed that Burger King is going to be giving away Happy Feet toys with its kid's meals.They are doing it right now! I know because, um... I HAVE KIDS. Yes. That's it. :rolleyes: ;)
quicksilver
11-09-2006, 07:26 AM
I've seen the plush dancing/speaking Mumbles in a local supermarket but its not Elijah's voice ( sounds like a young childs voice instead ).
But at least a well known washing powder is giving non-speaking, plush Mumble toys away with packs here. :cool: Well I've seen a TV advert but not the actual packs yet!
Apart from Lotr, this film seems to be the most advertised of Elijahs films in the UK. :rolleyes: And we dont even get to see his face.
honeyelf
11-09-2006, 09:11 AM
Happy Feet is currently being heavily advertised in Paris, as I found out on my recent trip there. What's remarkable about the French adversts, which are very large, and appear in several Metro stations, is what they leave out. There's Mumbles, front and center of a pack of penguins (what is the proper word for a group of penguins?). But the names that appear at the top of the ad are Robin Williams, Hugh Jackman, Brittany Murphy and Nicole Kidman; no Elijah anywhere! :eek: :confused:
What do you suppose that's about? Do they dislike Elijah in France? Wouldn't people want to know the name of the actor behind the lead character? I could only come up with two things that might explain this egregious omission:
1. Elijah's role in Paris je'Taime (the most recent of his roles to appear on the screen there) was silent. So French audiences wouldn't know his voice from that role.
2. Sometimes the actors' voices are dubbed for a foreign audience, therefore Frodo may have been voiced by a french actor in LoTR. But I can't even convince myself of this one, because my husband and I saw two American films in Paris, both of them with sub-titles.
So, until someone can offer a better explanation, I remain mystified and a bit miffed on himself's behalf! :mad:
honey!
tgshaw
11-09-2006, 11:32 AM
honey - If it weren't for Brittany Murphy on the list, I'd say it was because they wanted to advertise the mega-stars involved. Elijah's been moved up to "A list" in a lot of mentions, but his name recognition certainly is nowhere near Robin Williams or Nicole Kidman - or even Hugh Jackman since his X-men role. But Brittany Murphy? :confused: Unless she's a really big name in France...
One other thing I'm wondering about is the whole Baby Mumble thing. Does anyone have an idea of how much of the movie Elijah is actually voicing the character, and how much of it is done by the "Baby" voice? If the more mature Mumble doesn't kick in until halfway through the movie, the omission could make some sense. :rolleyes:
But I'd agree that the dubbing shouldn't be a reason - If that were true, they wouldn't be listing the other "voices", either, unless Elijah's the only one of them who can't speak perfect French ;) . I can't imagine enough money being put into the dubbing that they'd use the "big name" stars for that, but I don't know how that works. I would guess, though, that since it's a movie for young children, the dubbing would be more likely than it would be on a movie for older children or adults (as opposed to subtitles). [ETA: I just reread your post and see that you were talking about LotR having subtitles, not Happy Feet. :o Since LotR was subtitled in many places, it very likely was in France, too.]
Achila
11-09-2006, 11:43 AM
Chuck the MovieGuy interviews Elijah for Happy Feet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPEulplGXUc
very cute!
sneaking
11-09-2006, 12:42 PM
Could it be because of the singing? Perhaps the songs are in English but the talking voice work is dubbed. Elijah is the only one of the main cast not to sing (other than some screeching?). I'm sure that there had to have been a dubbed version of LOTR and that would imply that Elijah will have a regular voice artist in France (they often stick to the same voice actor for most of an actors films). I think films aimed at kids will always be dubbed (as little kids may not be able to read or patient enough to read the subtitles). As was said, if Brittany Murphy is on the list, it's not because of a fame thing.
I noticed as I was shopping in the supermarket (in the UK), that if you buy big packs of Persil non-bio, you can get a soft toy Mumble (it looked sort of like a Mumble emerging from an egg, I think but I'm not sure). Pity Persil brings me out in a rash.
Persil little penguin site (http://www.little-penguins.co.uk/free.html)
The film is not out til December in the UK, so they are getting in there early.
ceefour
11-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Thank you for your birthday wishes. Young Miss ceefour kindly gave me the flu as a present. Be back later....
honeyelf
11-10-2006, 09:40 AM
Bummer, CeeFour! Feel better soon! Here's a little something to cheer you up:
http://static.flickr.com/73/222681883_60772d2f2d_o.jpg
It's impossible to look at that smile and not smile back, isn't it? :D (Even if he is looking, according to my husband, "a little skinny and scruffy" these days.)
honey!
sneaking
11-10-2006, 06:13 PM
First serious critic Happy Feet review I've seen from ye olde Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film/reviews/article_display.jsp?JSESSIONID=FVNQsrvcQWGfLNvnqtsGrCD2qmgsSdbR5mv1tXcSFHxkQMFBLpjJ!55466238&&rid=8229) and it's a solid good review expecting success. Perhaps not an out an out delirious rave but a good review. No real Elijah mention (but also no critique of any of the voice artistes).
Edit: And as predictably as the rising of the sun in the morning, Variety's (http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117932092.html?categoryid=31&cs=1) review follows soon after, another good, maybe be slightly better review. It does make the film sound, well, serious. I wonder if it really does have the longest credits on record.
Mechtild
11-10-2006, 08:06 PM
Well, well, Sneaking!! Those both are very encouraging reviews. Hot dog! I feel more happy and relieved of worry about its reception as these good reviews continue to be linked. Halleluia! :z:
~ Mechtild
Skater girl
11-11-2006, 02:06 AM
Thanks for those reviews and links Sneaking.
Not only am I now really looking forward to the film, but they have answered my long standing query as to how the premiss of a penguin that can dance but not sing was going to fill and entire movie.
Chat shows in the UK have a season, and this it is. I am so hoping Elijah will come over her and promote the film on the major shows.
I'm also off today on a Persil mubles hunt. Hope I'm not too late :D
sneaking
11-11-2006, 04:55 AM
Thanks for those reviews and links Sneaking.
Not only am I now really looking forward to the film, but they have answered my long standing query as to how the premiss of a penguin that can dance but not sing was going to fill and entire movie.
Chat shows in the UK have a season, and this it is. I am so hoping Elijah will come over her and promote the film on the major shows.
I'm also off today on a Persil mubles hunt. Hope I'm not too late :D
Happy Feet is out at the start of December here, so you should get a persil mumble. What I want more than anything else (OK, in terms of UK talk shows), is that Elijah does Jonathan Ross but I'm afraid they'll send Robin Williams instead (or take nobody from this film). I don't want him doing Graham Norton again (it's an annoying and unsuccessful show).
It's bizarre isn't it? All along this has looked like dancing penguins/no plot but it seems to have a plot and quite a strong one at that. It's probably just not an easily kiddy trailerable plot.
Mariole
11-11-2006, 08:48 AM
It's probably just not an easily kiddy trailerable plot.
Oh, that's a nice thought, Sneaking. I haven't read any reviews (which I prefer to avoid anyway), but I have to admit I really wasn't much interested in this movie. All the animated films lately have been such a disappointment, even the highly touted ones. I'll probably watch Mumbles, but I have to admit, it just wasn't very high on my radar. Still, if it turns out to be great, that can only be good for TOL, can't it? *hopes*
tgshaw
11-12-2006, 10:52 AM
Thanks from me, too, Sneaking. My computer connections both at work and at home have made me pretty much give up on downloading anything with video, so I haven't seen any of the interviews. Some detailed "print" reviews were nice to see - especially good reviews :) . I feel much more secure about offering to take anybody's kids to the movie and not being embarrassed by it. Speaking of which, I noticed that the Hollywood Reporter has the MPAA listing as "G" while Variety has it as "PG". That probably won't affect the box office much, since a PG doesn't shut anyone out, but I wonder if Miller pushed the envelope so much on the "peril" that the ratings people have been a little unsure about recommending it for the tiniest tikes? And I wonder which of the ratings is the final one?
Premiere has only a short (and a little too cutesy) blurb for Happy Feet among its list of movies being released in November. The two names in bold are, in order, Elijah Wood and Robin Williams.
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In kind of an odd switch, Premiere doesn't seem to list Bobby at all in either its October or November releases, but then has a three-page article on it. The first page is about half-filled with that tender shot of Elijah and Lindsay that we've seen a few times before. Smaller pictures on pages 2 and 3, but no more of Elijah (actually none of the actors/characters are shown more than once). It's an article, not a review, and is mostly written from an interview with Emilio Estavez about all the problems and breakthroughs that led to the final product.
There are some quotes from others involved (who are the "phenomenal divas" William Macy mentions as holding up shooting for hours at a time, we wonders? ;) ). The only quote from Elijah is one-half of a comparison between the memories of the older and younger cast members. After Anthony Hopkins recalls his thoughts and emotion when he heard the news of RFK being killed, "...the 25-year-old Wood notes that he grew up 'not really knowing Bobby's story. In school, generally JFK's assassination and significance tended to overshadow Bobby's.'"
But the bit that did the most to swell my honorary auntie heart :p was, "Estevez finished the script a week before 9/11 and sold it in 2002 to a company that then lost its funding. Even so, the first two actors he approached - Wood and Freddy Rodriguez - remained committed to the project." IIRC, it had been mentioned somewhere that Elijah was one of the first on board, but it was nice to see it confirmed. And remaining committed to the project is certainly something TOL would do.
I still haven't seen any indication of when Bobby will show in Omaha - but I'm very specifically not saying "if", because I can't imagine that neither of our two "small movie" outlets will pick it up.
BunnieBugs
11-13-2006, 03:27 PM
I can't remember if anyone posted a link to the Happy Feet press conference transcript, but the one I saw a couple of days ago was very abbreviated. Here (http://movies.about.com/od/happyfeet/a/happyfeet110906.htm) is the full-length, five page transcript, and it is worth reading if only for this quote from director George Miller:
Also, to say about Elijah, the other thing about you, Elijah
I have to say something complimentary to him. You get everything on take one. Its amazing. Youre so precise because I know your voice better than you do. On cutting I had to go through every take. Somehow, you got to the truth of it in a moment, which I found really amazing. I know youve been acting for a long time but that skill
There are very few actors I know who can manage to do that.
:cool:
Mechtild
11-13-2006, 03:39 PM
Wow, Bunnie. *beams at your quote from George Miller*
~ M
sneaking
11-13-2006, 04:49 PM
That's a very nice quote.
I liked it when Elijah popped in with Prince's actual name. What a geek :lol:
txtac
11-13-2006, 05:49 PM
Not to begile too many penguins, but I just ran across this at theOneRing.net
Frodo Baggins
Lord of the Rings Premium Format Figures
Premium Format Figure (Item No. 7144)
Please also note this item has not yet begun shipping. It is estimated to ship Dec 2006
Limited Edition of 1000
Frodo Baggins is the second figure in Sideshow Collectibles' line of Premium Format Lord of the Rings figures, and perhaps the most stouthearted of all Hobbits. Frodo is recreated in 1:4 scale, ready to face danger with Sting in hand. He stands atop a detailed Moria base, complete with a dwarven helm and the partial remains of the previous owner. Frodo's fear and determination is captured in his pose and facial expression, as he prepares to face whatever might befall the Fellowship. The mixed media Frodo Premium Format figure is an intricate blend of polystone and expertly tailored clothing, utilizing the best materials available to recreate every detail of Frodo's wardrobe, from his Shire-crafted jacket to his furry hobbit feet.
Artist(s): Sculpted by Mat Falls
My drawing with crayons will not do the picture justice, so you had better click on this link to see the picture of the new Frodo sculpture. ;)
http://affiliates.sideshowtoy.com/Tracker.aspx?aid=3&href=http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=7144&affiliate=1
Achila
11-13-2006, 06:56 PM
A clip of Lij in Bobby:
http://www.hollywood.com/content/trailer_detail.aspx?id=3582523&r=8&f=1&pref=1
tgshaw
11-14-2006, 11:32 AM
Ah, I remember this little controversy :haha: -
Thats why, initially, I think some studio executives said, You cant do movies about birds because they dont smile.
Loved the quote about getting it on the first take - George Miller and Stephen Sommers should talk some time (or maybe they have): "Well, yeah, George. He was already doing that when he was eleven." :p
txtac - That's certainly one of the better-looking Frodo figures I've seen And at that price, it should be!
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I have my Burger King tap-dancing (well, kind of ;) ) Mumble. The manager had to unpack him for me because they didn't have any Mumble toys on display yet - just the other characters :rolleyes: . According to the instructions, if you push him along a flat surface his feet will move up and down and he'll make a tapping sound. I've found that this will happen if I push him along a flat surface while at the same time pushing down firmly on the top of his head. I hope all the kids can figure this out. :confused: Or maybe I just got a defective one?
BunnieBugs
11-14-2006, 12:25 PM
According to the instructions, if you push him along a flat surface his feet will move up and down and he'll make a tapping sound. I've found that this will happen if I push him along a flat surface while at the same time pushing down firmly on the top of his head. I hope all the kids can figure this out. :confused: Or maybe I just got a defective one?TG, I have one of those, too. I do have to press down a bit to get it to work, but not as hard as what you're describing (I have found that he's a little easier to operate in reverse, though). I suspect that yours is not working the way that it should.
:(
BTW, for those interested in Elijah's upcoming TV appearances:
Today (Tuesday): MTV's TRL (3:30 ET/PT)
Thursday night (technically Friday morning): Conan O'Brien
Sunday Nov. 19: Guest spot on the animated American Dad program
Wednesday Nov22 (technically Thursday morning): Jimmy Kimmel (though he's not on the schedule at the website, he is supposed to be there. We'll see)
tgshaw
11-14-2006, 03:31 PM
(I have found that he's a little easier to operate in reverse, though).
I haven't tried that :D .
I clicked on an ad here earlier today about "making your own Mumble" and they were awfully cute. I'm at work, though, and had to click away before I could find out much about them :rolleyes: . Hoping it will pop up again.
honeyelf
11-14-2006, 04:13 PM
You must mean this link, TG?
Make-Your-Own-Mumble (http://www.buildabear.com/shop/browsecategory.aspx?Category=HappyFeet)
You can even get little coats, hats, tee-shirts, etc. for Mumble. Although if you ask me a penguin looks awfully funny in pants! :eek: :confused:
honey!
ceefour
11-14-2006, 07:37 PM
Too bad the voice available is only for Baby Mumble. ;)
C4
tgshaw
11-15-2006, 08:14 AM
If anyone hasn't seen them, there are some interesting Happy Feet stills at IMDb, including a few shots of the motion capture for the dancing as well as a couple from the premiere.
Too bad the voice available is only for Baby Mumble. ;)
C4
There is this ;) :
As you complete your online order, you will be instructed to call a toll-free number and record your beary own personalized 10 second message! Your personalized voice message will play from inside your bear or other furry pal every time it's hugged!
How about The Giggle? Or a Frodo laugh? (Or, dare I suggest - ten seconds of "You Are My Sunshine"? :eek: )
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Bunnie - Tried my Burger King Mumble backing up, and he works better that way, too. But then, I suppose he dances backward about as much as he dances forward. :p
Spoilery comment for anyone who hasn't read pess conference
All of the stuffed Baby Mumbles have that yellow bow tie. I'm wondering if it's one of his oddities or part of his "slow development" that he doesn't have the usual yellow feathers there.
End of spoilery comment
sneaking
11-16-2006, 07:53 PM
What I want more than anything else (OK, in terms of UK talk shows), is that Elijah does Jonathan Ross but I'm afraid they'll send Robin Williams instead (or take nobody from this film). I don't want him doing Graham Norton again (it's an annoying and unsuccessful show).
Looks like I get my wish. Seemingly he's on the 1st of Dec (although it is pre-recorded because if there's a big story like the Kelly Osbourne tantrum it breaks days before).
Now I'm also a bit nervous. Because Jonathan Ross can be very blunt and risque. I hope Elijah manages to keep up with his sense of humour.
Mechtild
11-16-2006, 09:28 PM
Sneaking, who is Jonathan Ross? A person who has a talk show, I take it, but what sort?
Thanks. :)
~ Mechtild
BunnieBugs
11-16-2006, 10:15 PM
Now I'm also a bit nervous. Because Jonathan Ross can be very blunt and risque. I hope Elijah manages to keep up with his sense of humour.Hey, if he can handle Howard Stern (and he did, quite deftly), I think he can handle Johathan Ross. I hope.
That's great news, though! I look forward to that (assuming that someone can get it across the pond to us colonists). Incidentally, Elijah's appearance on Jimmy Kimmel has moved from Nov. 22 to Dec. 1.
And a link to drop:
A Happy Feet interview (http://www.star-ecentral.com/news/story.asp?file=/2006/11/17/movies/15921536&sec=movies) in which he doesn't really say anything new, but which offers confirmation of three upcoming projects:
In the pipeline is The Passenger, which is about the godfather of punk, Iggy Pop. This movie, to be produced next year, will see him starring as the young Pop.
Next on his list is Oxford Murders, a thriller based on the work of Argentinean award-winning novelist Guillermo Martinez. The movie is about a professor who works with his students to solve bizarre, mathematically-based murders in Oxford. The movie will be filmed in London sometime next January.
Im really excited about the movie. Ill be working with Alex de la Iglesia, whos an amazing director. Ive never worked with him before so its going to be really exciting. I love being involved in an old-fashioned crime involving mathematics, said Woods.
With so many offers in store (Picasso at the Lapin Agile and 9 slated for 2008), fans will see much more of him on the big screen.
:cool: :cool: :cool:
txtac
11-16-2006, 10:18 PM
Check your local cable TV for the FX channel. They are showing a 30 minute program on The Making of Bobby! Interviews with all of the cast members. It is on NOW in my area: 10:00pm Thursday, Central time.
Bunnie That's good news to hear about TOL's upcoming movies. Everyone's been curious to know what happeded to the Iggy Pop biopic. It was supposed to be filming now- late 2006. At least we know now that it will be sometime in 2007. Elijah does a pretty good English accent. It will be fun to hear it again in The Oxford Murders. Thanks for posting the article.
TG Fun new avatar! :lol:
I think this was asked earlier, but will KD support the sub-program that makes avatars move? Other forums have the sub-program that makes moving avatars. It would be fun to see your new avatar do a little tap dance. :)
Skater girl
11-17-2006, 01:14 AM
Looks like I get my wish. Seemingly he's on the 1st of Dec (although it is pre-recorded because if there's a big story like the Kelly Osbourne tantrum it breaks days before).
Now I'm also a bit nervous. Because Jonathan Ross can be very blunt and risque. I hope Elijah manages to keep up with his sense of humour.
Let's hope they get to talking about music to find some common ground.
For those of you who don't know Jonathan Ross, his chat show goes out late, and (and this is the more polite version) he once actually asked the leader of the government opposition if he had ever masturbated while thinking of Margaret Thatcher. The other week, he and Sasha Baron Cohen (aka Barat) were touching each other's genitals. It can be very funny if the guest 'gets' it and plays along, and it can be excruciating and embarrasing when people like Nicole Kidman come on, take offence and can't give as good as they get.
I have wanted to see Elijah on the show for years, but I do fear for him. His 2 outings on Graham Norton's show had their cringeworthy moments.
BunnieBugs
11-17-2006, 01:23 AM
Elijah does a pretty good English accent. It will be fun to hear it again in The Oxford Murders. Thanks for posting the article.Ah, but in the book, his character is Argentinian (Argentine?). And before Elijah signed on, they considered an actor who (I believe) has a German accent. So, I'm guessing that they were just going for someone who is foreign to British soil, in which case, it's very likely that Elijah will simply use his "normal" accent.
saile
11-17-2006, 07:29 AM
It is So good to see these updates on his current projects. Especially after reading his recent Tavis Smiley interview transcript.
Tavis: Tell me how you go about choosing projects these days. And I ask that because every time I get a chance to see you, the projects are so disparate. (Laugh) The current is very different from the latter, from the last project. So I get the sense that you're, like, sitting in a room somewhere, trying to find these projects that are very different from one another.
Wood: Yeah. I think that I've always got a mind to that. You are, to a certain degree, at mercy to whatever lands on your table, in regards to scripts.
Tavis: Even Elijah Wood?
Wood: Sure, sure. I'm not necessarily actively searching things out, so I'm reading a variety of different things. And the films that I choose are just the ones that I happen to be very passionate about. And I like the fact that they are different. I'm attracted to different kinds of roles. As an actor, it’s important to continue to challenge yourself. And I'm intrigued by many different kinds of characters and stories. So that’s primarily where it comes out of.
I really would like to see him in a lead role and SOON.
saile
Mechtild
11-17-2006, 07:37 AM
Skater Girl, thanks for the info. on Jonathan Ross. Sounds like my kind of show - not.
BunnieBugs, I am very sorry he won't have to do an Argentine accent. I think accents -- or wigs or costumes or anything that is an external unlike his normal self is a help to him in creating a distinctive character.
~ M
tgshaw
11-17-2006, 08:03 AM
A couple of interesting names pop up as comparisons in IMDb's "mini-biography" of Alex de la Iglesia. His movies sound like ones Elijah would be interested in, but I'm not quite sure how the style will translate into The Oxford Murders. He's done quite a bit of his own screenplay writing, and is listed as one of two screenwriters for TOM:
A cult director, his work is reminiscent in tone and style to that of Guillermo Del Toro. At one point scheduled to shoot the Doom (based on the video game) movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger but it fell through. His films have a kind of comic edge to them that is very similar to the early films of Peter Jackson. Unlike Jackson or Del Toro though, his work has not yet reached a large enough audience here in the US. Day of the Beast and Accion Mutante have their own very strong but small followings and Dance With the Devil will go down in history as probably the weirdest Javier Bardem film ever made (it was released in the US only a few years before Before Night Falls).
Belongs to the "unofficial" new generation of Hispanic filmmakers which includes Guillermo Del Toro (Mexican), Aljendro Gonzalez Inaritu (Mexican), Alfonso Cuaron (Mexican) and Robert Rodriguez (American).
Another tidbit: The country of origin for The Oxford Murders is listed as Spain, and most of the production team is Spanish. I was wondering how they'd do the shooting in one month (which is kind of what the wording in the interview sounded like) - but I suppose it will be England for shots needed at Oxford, and Spain for the rest. *sigh* I really need to get back to Oxford. :z: I haven't seen St. Gregory's, and I missed getting pictures of the house where most of LotR was written. It would probably be difficult to rent a dorm room in January, though. ;)
Loved seeing the Einstein role confirmed again. I'm still pinching myself about that one.
I remember reading about Jonathan Ross here sometime in the past when Elijah was doing talk shows. Has he been on it before, or do I just remember "wishful thinking"?
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txtac - The moving avatars are a feature of the avatars, not the forum program. (The avatars that segue from one pic to another basically work the same way.) So if Mumble were to tap dance, I'd have to make him do it. Which I could do, if I:
1. Put the March of the Penguins DVD back into the DVD drive and shot that section of the trailer frame-by-frame.
2. Resized each of the frames to 50x50 pixels, keeping Mumble still looking like Mumble and not a blotch.
3. Changed each of the frames from a .jpg to a .gif, which would make the tiny picture quality slightly more of a challenge (I've made a couple hundred avatars but always using .jpgs).
4. Decided which frames would be needed for the effect, keeping the total avatar size under KD's maximum.
5. Fed the frames into an animation program that I have (it came with Paint Shop) but have never used.
6. Learned how to use said program.
7. Threw out a few more frames because I misjudged the size. :p
8. Figured out how to upload it correctly.
So, yeah, it could happen. :p
BTW, thanks to lyric for fixing whatever it was that had my account shut out of adding a new avatar. Maybe I used up all the mileage on "Frodo's of the day" :haha: (which are all, of course, still on my hard drive ;) ).
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OT: I have a new roommate. She's named Houdini and is 8 years old so I don't plan to give her a new name (although that's not a name I would pick). I thought maybe the name was chosen because she's completely black, but it turns out that it's because she can disappear at will.
I'm definitely a dog person more than a cat person, but this particular feline was in need of a home (her owner retired - from the department I work in - and Houdini evidently doesn't take well to living in an RV for weeks at a time). Her owner also assured me that she's a very doglike cat, which she is in some ways. She's as affectionate as a dog, but it's still very clear that she's affectionate on her terms. (It's an open adoption, as daddy wants to see her when he's in the area.)
Anyway, we've been sharing living quarters for a few days now and things seem to be going okay. I've never taken care of a cat before, and at the moment she's letting me know that her box needs cleaning...
ceefour
11-17-2006, 09:21 AM
Anyone know anything about the movie, 9, that's listed in the interview BunnieBugs posted?
OT I know, but in an AICN interview about the release of TTT-The Complete Recordings, Howard Shore stated he was considering "a live projection project where we'd play the score live to the film." :z: :cool:
C4
txtac
11-17-2006, 09:51 AM
Bunnie wrote:
Ah, but in the book, his character is Argentinian (Argentine?). And before Elijah signed on, they considered an actor who (I believe) has a German accent. So, I'm guessing that they were just going for someone who is foreign to British soil, in which case, it's very likely that Elijah will simply use his "normal" accent.
Argentinian is a mixture of Spanish/Portugese and German. Elijah's natural accent has flat vowels and he talks in the back of his throat making him sound gay. Using the back of his throat will make the gutteral of German easier for him, but he will have to learn to do a spainish accent which comes more from the front (tip of the tongue, teeth and lips) part of the mouth. He can do it, but he will have to learn to do it. His normal voice/accent will not work for Argentine- if they want to stay true to the book of course.
tgshaw
11-17-2006, 10:21 AM
Anyone know anything about the movie, 9, that's listed in the interview BunnieBugs posted?
Back to IMDb :D - this one puts a couple of puzzle pieces together. Remember the report that Elijah was going to do a Tim Burton project? This may be it. Tim Burton is only producing, though, it seems. Director is Shane Acker, who created the short film the movie is to be based on.
Shane Acker, BTW, worked on visual effects for LotR/RotK.
Animated, dark, post-apocalyptic.
No cast listed as yet, not even any rumors on the message board as far as I could tell.
----An entry for the "How Optimistic Can You Be?" award: When I read Bunnie's post, I took it as meaning [i]9 movies in 2008! :lol: Hey, TOL's a hard worker, but... :haha:
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It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do about the accent in TOM. Along with what txtac said, AFAIK saying someone has an "Argentinian" accent is a bit like saying they have an "American" accent. It's a big country with lots of immigrants (there's a reason some of the big-name Nazis ran there to "blend in"), and I don't think one size fits all. Of course, the character in the book would have a specific accent, if the translation was done in a way that included accents.
Maybe Elijah was cast because they believe he can do the accent - who knows? (I need to read this book!)
sneaking
11-17-2006, 11:48 AM
Yay for the Oxford Murders! I'm glad that is actually happening.
What might help Elijah on Jonathan Ross is that Ross is also the host of the BBC's main film show. I.e. he's a film geek and an absolute genre film geek rather than a serious, serious critic type. I can really see him going off on a silly stream of conciousness about the dancing penguins. He's definitely a LOTR fan and I'd bet he's a bit of George Miller fan too. He might be a bit over obsequious and smarmy though. I can definitely see Frodo being on the gay house band T-shirts and stuff like that. Ross does tend to try to go to the places the guest doesn't really want to go to.
A bit more on 9: here's a link to youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opq8R4gbN28) and a bit of the short film it's based on.
BunnieBugs
11-17-2006, 11:57 AM
Elijah has actually been interviewed by Jonathan Ross at least once: at the premiere of FOTR in London. Of course, it was a different sort of forum, and not anywhere near the atmosphere and level of naughtiness that his show typically is, but at least Elijah has had sort of a taste of it. I think he'll do just fine.
Mariole
11-17-2006, 01:21 PM
It is So good to see these updates on his current projects.
Oh, me too! It's such a buzz to see all these upcoming projects. Thank you, BunnieBugs, Tg, et al for these wonderful updates! *taps toes, enunciates "Yippee!" from the front of my mouth * :)
*does not touch Jonathon Ross's genitals* :eek:
saile
11-17-2006, 02:13 PM
After reading The New York Times Review of Happy Feet....one can only say once again that Our One Lad does choose very interesting films to say the least. Sometimes it surprises even me! :eek:
To the point
SPOILERS
All this beauty makes it easy to understand why Mumble might want to tap his feet with joy. It also explains why Mr. Miller, after doing an extremely credible approximation of the wonderful world of Walt Disney, plunges his hapless hero into a nightmare worthy of Samuel Fuller’s “Shock Corridor.” As politically pointed as it is disturbing, it is a view of hell as seen through the eyes and ears of creatures we foolishly, tragically call dumb.
END SPOILERS
Get me to the theater NOW
saile
Achila
11-17-2006, 02:30 PM
Argentinian is a mixture of Spanish/Portugese and German. Elijah's natural accent has flat vowels and he talks in the back of his throat making him sound gay.
Um...huh???
Using the back of his throat will make the gutteral of German easier for him,
I think you misunderstood, txtac -- Elijah won't have to do a German accent. The actor they considered for this role at some point (after Gael Garcia Bernal and before Elijah) is Daniel Bruel, who is German (he was in The Edukators and Ladies in Lavender).
And in TV appearance news, Elijah is supposed to be on The Saturday Early Show, which is on CBS, 7AM (EST).
ceefour
11-17-2006, 05:43 PM
Just got back from seeing Happy Feet with Mr. ceefour and Young Master and Miss ceefour. I love this movie. It has amazing animation with some breathtaking shots that are stunningly beautiful. It is LOL funny (still, even after all the trailers) and the voice work is uniformly excellent. The music and dancing are just wonderful.
Spoiler
While the plot does plunge Mumble into a nightmare world, it is not completely unexpected as some of the reviews led me to believe. Mumble's colony is not exactly sweetness and light all the time with the pressure to comform and Mumble's expulsion. There is a strong environmental message that we humans are damaging the earth, but it offers the hope we can repair some of the damage.
End Spoiler
Mumble does some impressive eyebrow acting, even though he doesn't have any. :lol:
Following saile back to the theater,
C4
There was a big stand-up poster for Bobby in the lobby. :cool: Nearly walked into somebody when I saw it. :o
Achila
11-17-2006, 10:27 PM
Pelagia and I also saw Happy Feet tonight, in IMAX! It was utterly stunning and the huge screen made you feel like you were IN the movie. If you guys get a chance, and there's an IMAX theater near you showing Happy Feet, by all means, go.
Mechtild
11-17-2006, 10:54 PM
Oh, Achila! An IMAX! You lucky dogs. One of my e-friends also saw it tonight in IMAX - she'd already seen the premiere and didn't want to miss it in that format.
*sigh* No IMAX's around here. I'll have to go see it at a regular old theatre tomorrow. Everything I've been hearing from folks has been grrrrrrrrreat. Woo hoo!
~ M
ceefour
11-18-2006, 09:26 AM
Borrowed this from TORN--
http://theenvelope.latimes.com/awards/oscars/env-en-elijahqa15nov15,0,6846994.story
C4
Mechtild
11-18-2006, 10:15 AM
Thanks, Ceefour, I enjoyed reading that little interview!
~ M
Alyon
11-18-2006, 12:06 PM
Thanks, Ceefour for that interview. And thanks to everyone else for links and reviews. I actually want to go see this movie!!! Vinnie just got around to seeing Everything is Illuminated and she emailed me to say she loved it and has ordered her own copy!! So maybe I can get her to go see Happy Feet with me!! (If only Billy Boyd were a penguin, too!! She'd be right on it!)
honeyelf
11-18-2006, 01:39 PM
Saw Happy Feet last night. Elijah has a lovely voice...for acting. The mystery of whether or not he really can sing remains unsolved, but Mumble sure can't. :p
I was both interesting and surprising to recognize some of Elijah's facial expressions on a penguin. Surprising because I thought I'd spent enough time watching his face on screen that I couldn't be fooled into recognizing him in an animated character, but I was very happy to be so fooled!
I was very relieved that Robin Williams was both funny and restrained. I feel that he's been allowed to totally run away with some of the other animated movies he's been in.
Enjoyed Savion Glover's tap, too. I saw Stomp last May, and Savion Glover is one of the original cast members of that show (maybe even a creator?). His dancing retains that stompish flavor, and was a lot of fun.
Husband-darling enjoyed all that '70's music, bouncing in his seat for most of the movie.
Somehow the plot seemed sort of all-over-the-map to me. But all in all it was an enjoyable experience.
Looks like I missed an interesting :rolleyes: :eek: conversation. I'm glad to see that Elijah has lots more work lined up for him. I'm looking forward to it!
h!
tgshaw
11-19-2006, 03:07 PM
:cool: :cool: :haha: :D
'Happy Feet' Dances to Top of Box Office
By DAVID GERMAIN (AP Movie Writer)
From Associated Press
November 19, 2006 1:44 PM EST
LOS ANGELES - James Bond has met his match - not a fellow spy but a tap-dancing penguin. :haha: The Warner Bros. animated penguin romp "Happy Feet" debuted with $42.3 million, grabbing an edge for the weekend's No. 1 slot over Sony's Bond adventure "Casino Royale," which opened with $40.6 million, according to studio estimates Sunday.
The two films were close enough that their rankings could change when final numbers are released Monday.
"'Happy Feet' is just ahead by a flipper," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Exhibitor Relations. "It's unusual to have two movies this close, battling for that No. 1 position."
Dan Fellman, head of distribution for Warner, said "Happy Feet" was solidly ahead and that the rankings would not flip-flop on Monday.
"It's not going to happen," Fellman said. "It's a clear victory here."
"Casino Royale" took an early lead over "Happy Feet" on opening day because of strong adult audiences Friday night. "Happy Feet" dominated the rest of the weekend, drawing big crowds on Saturday and Sunday when family films do their best business.
The box-office leader the last two weekends, "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan," slipped to third with $14.35 million, lifting its total to $90.5 million.
With the rarity of two movies in the $40 million range, Hollywood had a robust weekend, the top 12 movies taking in $133.6 million. Still, that could not measure up to the same weekend a year ago, when the $102.3 million debut of "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" paced the top 12 to a $171.9 million total.
"Happy Feet" features the voices of Elijah Wood, Nicole Kidman, Hugh Jackman and Robin Williams in the story of an penguin who cannot carry a tune like his brethren but can tap-dance up a storm.
"Casino Royale," introducing Daniel Craig as British super-spy Bond, fell right between the debuts of the previous two 007 flicks, which had been No. 1 and 2 among the franchise's openings.
The last Bond movie, Pierce Brosnan's "Die Another Day," holds the franchise record with $47.1 million in November 2002. Brosnan's 1999 Bond adventure "The World Is Not Enough" premiered with $35.5 million in November 1999.
"I think a $40 million-plus start for a new series of Bonds with Daniel Craig is a great beginning," said Jeff Blake, Sony vice chairman. "Casino Royale" also brought in $42.2 million in Great Britain, Russia and 25 other countries where it opened this weekend, Blake said.
In narrower release, two other new movies bombed, Universal's jailhouse comedy "Let's Go to Prison" taking in $2.1 million and Fox Searchlight's junk-food chronicle "Fast Food Nation" grossing $390,000.
Christopher Guest's Hollywood spoof "For Your Consideration" debuted strongly in limited release with $394,000 at 23 theaters. The film released by Warner Independent features a huge ensemble including director Guest, co-writer Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara in a comedy about Academy Awards fever among the cast of a small Hollywood drama.
Emilio Estevez's Robert Kennedy saga "Bobby" opened well with $67,000 in just two theaters. From the Weinstein Co. and MGM, "Bobby" features an all-star cast including Sharon Stone, Demi Moore, Anthony Hopkins and Lindsay Lohan in the story of people gathered at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles the night Kennedy was assassinated there in 1968.
"Bobby" and "For Your Consideration" expand to nationwide release this week.
Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian theaters, according to Exhibitor Relations Co. Inc. Final figures will be released Monday.
1. "Happy Feet," $42.3 million.
2. "Casino Royale," $40.6 million
In order to find something to gripe about - If they saw fit to mention Lindsay Lohan in the "Bobby" paragraph, surely they could have dropped in Elijah Wood, too? :rolleyes:
sneaking
11-19-2006, 03:52 PM
The Happy Feet box office is great. Bobby is actually slightly disappointing. It's not actively bad (still good and perfectly acceptable) but it's not what it needed to show signs of really breaking out and being successful next week.
esmeraldabrandybuck
11-19-2006, 07:31 PM
Loved watching how naturally Elijah held the penguin on the Friday mornings Today Show interview. He was so calm and comfortable holding the little guy, which totally reflected in the penguins relaxed and secure demeanor (unlike Al Roker, who got his finger chomped simply because he didnt consider creature comforts :D ). Id like to think Elijahs natural ability with cute little bundles will easily transfer over to him having his own offspring some day. Oh, and by the way, Penguins Rule! (Even if he did deposit on Elijahs jacket. :D )
teeg, congratulations on your new addition. I'm still on cat #2. You'll soon wonder how you ever did without one (tho mine likes to get in the way of my keyboard typing now and again).
txtac
11-19-2006, 09:18 PM
I just recieved this little quip in from Contact Music:
DOUBLE PENGUIN LOVE FOR WOOD
THE LORD OF THE RINGS star ELIJAH WOOD is doubling up on his penguin love - as well as providing his voice for animated movie HAPPY FEET, the actor will narrate new nature documentary SAVING A SPECIES for the Discovery Kids network. The TV documentary follows the efforts of a group of environmentalists who fought the odds to save a population of South African penguins in the aftermath of a huge oil spill. Wood says, "The relief effort that came together was truly, truly extraordinary and they managed to save the entire population of penguins."
20/11/2006 01:48
http://contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/double%20penguin%20love%20for%20wood_1014087
Someone earlier was asking about Elijah's new movie "9" here is another bit from another recent interviews where he talks about it.
Elijah: I have actually just finished another one. It is a movie produced by Tim Burton called 9: a fascinating story about a post-apocalyptic world that should be coming out in 2008. I have just recorded the voice for it.
You can read the entire interview here: http://www.movieseer.com/InterviewDetailBil.asp?iID=94&aID=2194&Channel=2
tgshaw
11-20-2006, 08:26 AM
Voice work already finished for "9" - Hey, that means he should have enough time for a third movie in 2008! :haha:
That Today Show interview completely got past me - how did that happen? :(
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Happy report from going to Happy Feet Sunday evening. "My" theater is running at least 3 prints of HF out of 24 total screens. And my ticket sent me to my old stomping ground of Theater 12 - one of the set of largest theaters, opening directly from the main lobby, and where I spent many hours watching LotR movies. :p Another blast from the past - the "Holdout Line for Theater 12" sign. Sitting off to the side for the Sunday evening showings, but evidently needed earlier in the weekend. (As I'm typing this, the official weekend numbers are being announced, and HF "edged out" Casino Royale.) Not a full crowd Sunday evening, but not too bad considering the competition in town included "Disney on Ice," and a lot of kids considering it was an evening showing. (At least one sitting right behind me was unjaded enough to laugh at the little guy made out of a filmstrip who's introduced every movie at that theater for, well, at least the last 5 years ;) .
I will be seeing this movie again! Too much fun for only once - and I missed "Unchained Melody" :confused: . I was definitely with honey's husband in the toe-tapping to the music department. And with honey in the recognizing Elijah department. At the first shot of non-baby Mumble, I simply thought, "It's Elijah Wood as a penguin." :cool: And, even though they "just ain't penguin" I love the eyes! :lol:
One spoilery comment
Agree with the one or two reviews that said the ending was contrived. If they would have just stopped with the helicopter crew, I would have swallowed the whole thing.
End of spoilery comment
IMVHO, this movie could not have been made without the special effects advances of LotR.
Mechtild
11-20-2006, 08:45 AM
In order to find something to gripe about - If they saw fit to mention Lindsay Lohan in the "Bobby" paragraph, surely they could have dropped in Elijah Wood, too?
Ah, but it was deeply gratifying to watch the opening of Happy Feet and see "Elijah Wood" head the list of credits -- even over Robin Williams (whom I think of as a big box office actor). :D
P.S. Thanks, txtac, for the note on 9. I hadn't even heard of that project before.
~ M
Achila
11-20-2006, 09:02 AM
...you can watch it here:
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm??f=00&g=eaa612ba-bf86-4a14-bba8-32994dcab7bb&p=source_today%20show%20entertain%20ment&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032633/&fg=&
ceefour
11-21-2006, 08:26 AM
Achila, Pelagia, and I saw "Happy Feet" on Sunday. What a blast! I'm waiting for your screen caps, tg, after the DVD is released, because EW's expressions are definitely up there on screen in Mumble's face.
C4
P.S. Another LOTR connection spotted by Achila is Andrew Lesnie is a DP.
tgshaw
11-21-2006, 08:48 AM
Achila, Pelagia, and I saw "Happy Feet" on Sunday. What a blast! I'm waiting for your screen caps, tg, after the DVD is released, because EW's expressions are definitely up there on screen in Mumble's face.
Yes - I have some up from the trailer that's on the March of the Penguins DVD, but, of course, that's not Elijah. ;)
txtac
11-21-2006, 09:33 AM
Peter Jackson will NOT be directing The Hobbit, or the planned prequel movie to LOTR! :mad:
You can read the article here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_en_ot/people_peter_jackson&printer=1
and here: http://tbhl.theonering.net/
Here is a video clip of Elijah on the Tavis Smiley Show that he did on November 8th. http://img-nex.theonering.net/movies/110806ElijahWoodTavis.mov
Here is a new pretty good Happy Feet review:
http://contactmusic.com/new/film.nsf/reviews/happyfeet
The political campaigns are over with for this year, but no one was talking about Frodo's run for the King of Gondor position. :eek:
You can view Frodo's campaign ad here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDMWFHxQu6g&mode=related&search=
ceefour
11-21-2006, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the news, txtac.
I went to my local Barnes & Noble to pick up the Happy Feet soundtrack and it was sold out! :cool:
C4
txtac
11-21-2006, 02:11 PM
Here is an article from Variety letting MGM put in their two cents worth. MGM owns the distribution rights to the Hobbit and wants to go ahead with making the Hobbit- WITH Jackson as the director.
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=print_story&articleid=VR1117954301&categoryid=13
The war to make the Hobbit has started. The petitions are circulating. Please take a minute to add your name to the petition to let Peter Jackson make the Hobbit! http://www.petitiononline.com/hobnow/petition.html
Borrowed from the TORn web site.
11-21-06 Latest News
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Shelbyshire
11-22-2006, 07:12 PM
The kids and I saw Happy Feet this afternoon. I must admit I was also pleased to see the Harry Potter trailer, too. The kids must have enjoyed the movie since Sam, the youngest at 8, was tap dancing through Meijers afterward!
I was quite amused that throughout the movie Mumble was that "tall guy". Usually, a character of Elijah's is not described like that! :k
I was also curious to know from those who have seen Bobby, what makes it an R rated movie? Would it be okay for a 13 year old?
Mariole
11-22-2006, 10:17 PM
Good to hear all the news about Happy Feet! I'll take it in one of these days soon, I'm sure.
Appropos of nothing, I was just reading some Beatles books. I do that every few years, to see what's come out. There's a new book out that I quite enjoyed, written by their sound engineer, Geoff Emerick: "Here, There and Everywhere: My Life Recording the Music of The Beatles". It has a wonderful write-up of the recording of She Loves You that I'd never heard anywhere before. Because the studio only ever put 4 or 5 bobbies on the gate, and because the boys (as they were called) arrived early for a photoshoot that day, so the girls could call their friends and build up their ranks--the EMI studios were infiltrated by these screaming fans for the first time. The Beatles did not expect it and had no idea what to do about it-- hilarious episode, and you can hear the energy of it on the record.
Anyway, one of the stories I enjoyed was how, as the Beatles went on tour, there were not only young fans who tried to get to them. Police would stop middle-aged women in the halls trying to get to the room. "I just want to make them happy," the matron would say. "You know... happy." Hmm. ;) My favorite was the lady who tried to crawl to their room through the ventilation system and got stuck-- yes, soul sister! (A teenager could probably have got through...)
Anyway, all this very enjoyable reading for me sort of struck a similar ring. I'm one of those middle-aged matrons now. It makes me happy that a few generations ago my counterparts were crawling through the ductwork after the Beatles. I think anyone my age who's ever harbored an earnest liking for The One Lad might also feel a sense of relief. We are not alone. :p Cheers!
honeyelf
11-23-2006, 01:13 AM
I was also curious to know from those who have seen Bobby, what makes it an R rated movie? Would it be okay for a 13 year old?
Shelbyshire, the R rating is for drug use, violence and sexual situations. There is one scene where three characters use LSD, and it's pretty much played for laughs. (Cat box! :eek: :p ) There is an extra-marital liason depicted, but we only see the aftermath, as the two people are putting their clothes back on. And of course the violence, and a bit of blood. Oh, and some foul language.
TxTac, thanks for the link to the petition. Hard to image anyone other than PJ making The Hobbit! :eek:
Mariole, amusing Beatles anecdotes! I still don't get why all the fuss over the age of fans! Why is it so shocking that a woman in her forties is a fan of an actor in his twenties? James Dean died when he was 23, two years younger than TOL. James Dean aint' gettin' any older, but I plan to! But if I had a poster of James Dean on my wall, nobody would question it! Heck! I could go purchase it at my local hardware store; they keep a very nice black and white one in stock at all times! Instead, I've got a poster of Frodo Baggins as played by Elijah Wood on my wall, and people think I've snapped a twig! Well, they just don't know what they're missing out on, is all I've got to say about that! :haha:
yours in snapped-twigness,
honey!
ceefour
11-23-2006, 08:13 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to the Faculty!!
C4
tgshaw
11-23-2006, 09:39 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to all from the Carvers -
http://www.frodolivesin.us/1699965f0.jpg
- and from me. :)
Shelbyshire
11-23-2006, 10:07 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to The Faculty from North!
Enjoy the feast!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/North-91.jpg
BunnieBugs
11-23-2006, 09:54 PM
I'm not sure of the source for this list, but primula_baggins over in LJ Land had this list of release dates for Elijah's upcoming movies, and I thought that might be both useful and appropriate to have here:
Bobby
USA 23 November 2006
Belgium 24 January 2007
France 24 January 2007
Switzerland 24 January 2007 (French speaking region)
Israel 25 January 2007
Italy 26 January 2007
Spain 26 January 2007
UK 26 January 2007
Netherlands 1 February 2007
Australia 22 February 2007
Japan 5 May 2007
Happy Feet
Israel 16 November 2006
Malaysia 16 November 2006
Thailand 16 November 2006
USA 17 November 2006
Philippines 22 November 2006
Singapore 23 November 2006
Brazil 24 November 2006
Poland 24 November 2006
Germany 30 November 2006
Austria 1 December 2006
Italy 1 December 2006
Norway 1 December 2006
Spain 1 December 2006
Belgium 6 December 2006
France 6 December 2006
Netherlands 6 December 2006
Argentina 7 December 2006
Denmark 8 December 2006
Finland 8 December 2006
Panama 8 December 2006
Sweden 8 December 2006
UK 8 December 2006
Venezuela 8 December 2006
Latvia 15 December 2006
Hong Kong 21 December 2006
Hungary 21 December 2006
Estonia 22 December 2006
Australia 26 December 2006
Iceland 26 December 2006
Egypt 10 January 2007
Turkey 19 January 2007
Japan 7 April 2007
Paris Je Taime
Taiwan 24 November 2006
Hong Kong 7 December 2006
Argentina 28 December 2006
Netherlands 11 January 2007
Germany 25 January 2007
Colombia 9 February 2007
Australia 15 February 2007
USA April 2007
Japan 7 April 2007
Day Zero
Spain 26 October 2007
UK 23 November 2007
USA 14 December 2007
Germany 3 January 2008
Morocco 18 January 2008
Belgium 23 January 2008
Mexico 7 March 2008
Switzerland 30 May 2008 (German speaking region)
I was a bit stunned to see Day Zero on the list, as I was not even aware that it had a distributor! But good news, though I wish it were coming sooner. I wonder if it's so late because they think it might have Oscar potential? :cool: Still, I do wish we didn't have to wait quite so long. *sigh* You'd think I'd be used to that sort of thing by now.
tgshaw
11-24-2006, 09:10 AM
Great list to have, Bunnie, thanks - I was very happy to see a USA date for "Paris" - I was wondering if that would ever get here. Of course, that still doesn't mean it'll get to Omaha :rolleyes: .
I was, however, joyfully surprised to see Bobby open here on its release date. I went with my Tolkien-averse friend to see The Queen yesterday, and when we got to the ticket window I (almost) shouted - "Look what's here already!" No special notice, no signs up anywhere, but Bobby was at the top of the list of movies and times. Interesting to open a movie on Thanksgiving - a very low movie attendance day in the U.S., and the releases for the weekend are usually family-friendly movies since the kids are off school. (Should be boffo box office for HF, although it will get some new competition.)
---So I'll be making another trip back to that theater before the weekend's over, to see Bobby, and will try to sneak in another viewing of HF as well.
Almost everyone I talked to at work wanted to see HF, and to take their kids or grandkids if they had any. Of course, I strongly encouraged this; since I'd already seen it, I could give my totally objective report of how good it is. :p While talking it up, I also uncovered a closet EJW fan in the person of one of our new employees. Not everyone knew Elijah was in the movie (what a surprise :rolleyes: ), and when I mentioned it, she said, "Oh, I really like him!" (including the "!") :cool: Enough people in the department had wanted to see my Oxford photos that when I had them posted I sent a general email giving the URL to the first page of photos, but no one's been particularly interested in anything else on my website. I'll have to make sure this new person knows about the other half of the site - I'm sure she'll find some movies she hasn't seen yet ;) . I think this is the first time I've ever run into someone in RL who's spontaneously admitted being a fan of TOL, without my even having to explain who he was. :haha:
Achila
11-24-2006, 10:07 AM
Hi all -- hope everyone had a lovely Thanksgiving (and to those who don't celebrate, I hope you had a nice day yesterday too!). Pelagia and I are off to our third viewing of Happy Feet today. But I wanted to cruise in to tell you that Lij will be on Jimmy Kimmel, Fri, Dec 1.
ceefour
11-24-2006, 10:45 AM
You're going without me?!? :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :p :k
C4
Achila
11-24-2006, 10:59 AM
You know the place...5PM..... ;)
whiteling
11-24-2006, 11:48 AM
Hi, my dears! Just wanted to say thank you to all your happy Happy Feet comments. :) The movie release is scheduled for next week over here, and I can't wait to see it - even I won't have the pleasure of hearing Elijah's voice. Ah well.
Thanks also to Bunnie for the release dates list. Yippie! Paris Je Taime and Day Zero will be shown! Strange that Bobby hasn't got a German release so far, though. :confused:
Mariole
11-24-2006, 02:00 PM
Not everyone knew Elijah was in the movie (what a surprise ), and when I mentioned it, she said, "Oh, I really like him!" (including the "!")
This made my day!
Ditto on the thanks, Bunnie. I'll be watching for these in Denver! *takes Ceefour to see Happy Feet* ;)
Alyon
11-24-2006, 07:36 PM
Mariole:
was just reading some Beatles books. I do that every few years, to see what's come out. There's a new book out that I quite enjoyed, written by their sound engineer, Geoff Emerick: "Here, There and Everywhere: My Life Recording the Music of The Beatles
Oh, Mariole--I've wanted to read that one. :cool:
Police would stop middle-aged women in the halls trying to get to the room. "I just want to make them happy," the matron would say. "You know... happy." Hmm
Oh, yeah--it's good to remember that middle-aged women have always been youthful of heart. They likely had a harder time of it then than now-- there was more of a cultural separation between what our parent's generation was supposed to like and what our generation was liking. The Beatles are over 40 years ago and they are still on the playlist of teenagers. I was a teenager in the 1970's and I can't imagine in those days being interested in the music from the 1930s or the 1920s. Whereas at least these days some teenagers who do consider themselves hip like to talk to me about the Beatles and my counterculture bent. They don't consider me old for my tastes. Well, in that I may be deluding myself, but I don't think so!!
Okay, that part is cool. BUt I still am a little shy talking about Elijah...despite the fact that I agree with Honey that it should be no big deal!!
Fandom is so fun, though. My kid has become such a fannish geek--lots of fandoms--and she just loves it!! I so understand it because, well, duh, here I am. But at her age I spent hours at the public library looking through microfiche for Beatles articles. She comes by it honestly, I guess.
Thanks for all the news, Txtac, Bunnie, TG, Achilla, Ceefour, Sneaking
And Hi Ezzie!!!!
And Happy Thanksgiving a day late, to those who celebrate it!! :k
Fiondra
11-25-2006, 03:04 PM
Anyway, all this very enjoyable reading for me sort of struck a similar ring. I'm one of those middle-aged matrons now. It makes me happy that a few generations ago my counterparts were crawling through the ductwork after the Beatles. I think anyone my age who's ever harbored an earnest liking for The One Lad might also feel a sense of relief. We are not alone. :p Cheers!
Thinking of it that way makes me feel a bit better! I just came back from a quick shopping trip to The Gap with my son, and there were so many "Elijah style" shirts and sweaters that I could almost see him in them. I think maybe I need to get out more ;)
Achila
11-25-2006, 03:11 PM
Hi Fiondra -- welcome!
honeyelf
11-25-2006, 06:55 PM
Welcome, Fiondra! Shopping in the men's department is more interesting lately, isn't it? ;)
If anybody's interested, I've posted Elijah's guest spot on Robot Chicken in the Elijah_Finds community at LJ. Warning: if you previously harbored strong suspicions that TOL has a fascination with toilet humor, this may just confirm it! :eek: :p
honey!
Mechtild
11-25-2006, 07:35 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all from the Carvers
How did I miss the Thanksgiving posts????? TG, that was hilarious. Never till your post did I realise the pun of the "Carvers" and carvers (of turkeys).
Warning: if you previously harbored strong suspicions that TOL has a fascination with toilet humor, this may just confirm it!
:eek: :p
Had this been a secret, heretofore? :k
~ M
honeyelf
11-25-2006, 09:12 PM
Nah, no secret at all, is it? It's a kick seeing that side of him. It reminds me of my son as a teenager, when his really outrageous sense of humor would come to the fore. I'd feel as an adult that I maybe shouldn't laugh, but it was just so funny, as much the delivery as the...well, devilry!
I've really enjoyed seeing Happy Feet, the American Dad episode, and now this Robot Chicken thing all in the same week. It's interesting hearing how he uses his voice differently for the three characters, and yet the similarities, because he has to "sell" the character through the opacity of the animations, and without benefit of his expressive face. He's much more "over the top" with the animated characters.
honey!
Shelbyshire
11-26-2006, 01:26 PM
I had the pleasure of seeing Bobby last night. I did take my 13-year old and was pleased I did. We went to an 11:30 PM show (a last minute decision after I worked till 8 PM) and were 2 of only 4 people in the theatre. No where was nudity mentioned, not even in the explanation of the rating by the movie theater itself. Not a big deal though. A young mans bare bum is not an unpleasant sight at all even though it wasnt TOLs.
I enjoyed the movie for the drama it is. All the acting was very realistic, even Lindsey did well. I felt most for the older ladies. A little bit of something in all their stories touched home for me. The movie did not go deep into any of the character stories but it was still enough to know or relate to them each in their/our own way. The One Lad? Very fine work. I actually felt that his acting was much more mature in this movie. I have no doubt that as he ages, his acting will exceed all expectations! Also, the first time we saw his character, my daughter leaned over and whispered, Wow, his eyes are so blue! And the kiss? Nice. Elijah and Lindsey did better in my opinion than Martin Sheen and Helen Hunt. I believe he has improved in that aspect of his acting but it was too short to really assess properly. I was left wanting more.
Elijah made a comment in one of his recent interviews that he felt the movie would bring this particular time in history to the younger generation. After all, he himself hadnt even been born yet. It has for us. Shelby was full of questions on the way home and expressed an interest to learn more of the Kennedy brothers and their families. My main reason for going was to see Elijah but Im pleased he choose to be in a movie that also provided Shelby a look back in the history of our nation.
:) Well done, Emilio Estevez.
txtac
11-26-2006, 05:44 PM
'Happy Feet' Dances Atop Box Office
Sunday November 26 4:30 PM ET
A dancing penguin was king of the Thanksgiving birds among movie-goers. The animated penguin romp "Happy Feet" remained the No. 1 movie with $37.9 million in ticket sales from Friday to Sunday, while the James Bond adventure "Casino Royale" stayed in second place with $31 million, according to studio estimates Sunday.
Over the Wednesday-to-Sunday holiday period, "Happy Feet," from Warner Bros., took in $51.5 million while Sony's "Casino Royale" did $45.1 million.
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While "Happy Feet" started out mainly a family film, good reviews and word-of-mouth pulled in more adults without children, said Dan Fellman, head of distribution at Warner Bros.
Along with ravishing computer-animated visuals, the adult appeal of "Happy Feet" includes a positive environmental statement and wall-to-wall pop tunes reinterpreted by its vocal cast, led by Elijah Wood, Nicole Kidman, Jackman and Robin Williams.
"I think it's just a good message, and it's just well made. And we all like the music," Fellman said. "Happy Feet" raised its 10-day total to $100.1 million.
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A flurry of movies debuted or expanded from limited release, led by writer-director Emilio Estevez's "Bobby," weaving together the stories of 22 characters gathered at Los Angeles' Ambassador Hotel the night Robert Kennedy was assassinated in 1968.
"Bobby," from MGM and the Weinstein Co., came in at No. 9 over the weekend with $4.9 million.
You can read the rest of the article here: http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20061126/116458740000.html
:D It's nice to have two of Elijah's movies out again at the same time- and both in the top ten! :lol:
Can anyone remember when the last time Elijah had two films out at the same time and both were in the top ten?
:confused: What does that say about our culture when a cartoon beats out James Bond, not once, but twice in a row!!! :eek:
Honey wrote:
...because he has to "sell" the character through the opacity of the animations, and without benefit of his expressive face. He's much more "over the top" with the animated characters.
In the interview titled "Lord of the Dance" Nov.15,06; Elijah said The idea of doing an animated film was exiting because I am a fan. It's such a freeing experience; you're completely unencombered by the physical.
On the Tavis Smiley Show (Nov.08, 2006), Elijah said: It's not often you get a chance to do animation and it's something that I really enjoy... It's a completely different kind of work. The time that it takes is less, which is attractive, sometimes. The opportunity to simply work on the voice. It's very freeing. You don't have to worry about yourself physically, how you move, necessarily, what you're wearing. It's all about the character.
In the Star-eCentral interview dated Nov.17, 2006; Elijah said: It's nice to do voiceovers for animated movies. I don't get animated scripts often so when George (Miller) approached me, I gladly accepted it. I was really excited after understanding the style and incorporation of modern music into the movie... I love doing voiceover as it doesn't take up much time and doesn't involve physical activities. It is very fulfilling to see a version of yourself attached to it.
Elijah can be such a geek at times, but at least he's consistant! :D
Shelbyshire, point young miss Shelby to the Tavis Smiley Show transcript/interview. It has a lot of very interesting things in it.
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200611/20061108_transcript.html#2 You will have to scroll down about half way to pick up where the interview starts with Elijah.
Fiondra
11-26-2006, 06:44 PM
Welcome, Fiondra! Shopping in the men's department is more interesting lately, isn't it? ;)
If anybody's interested, I've posted Elijah's guest spot on Robot Chicken in the Elijah_Finds community at LJ.
Thanks for the welcome! :) Can somebody steer me to where or what the Elijah_Finds community is?
tgshaw
11-26-2006, 07:21 PM
Yesterday I had my first viewing of Bobby and my second one of Happy Feet. Happy Feet just got better, and it was so much fun to hear the kids in the theater thoroughly enjoying it. (I also realized that I needed to "correct" the spelling used with my avatar.)
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My reaction to Bobby wasn't as positive as Shelbyshire's; in fact, if you want to avoid a rant you'd better skip the rest of this post.
I thought about half of the storylines were completely irrelevant and could have been cut without harming the overall effect of the movie at all, which would have also given the others the space needed to develop more depth. It's one of the few movies in which I didn't feel that Elijah was connecting with his character on a gut level, but I think the opportunity just wasn't there to get beyond what was happening to reach into the human depth of the emotions. I dunno, maybe my own gut-level connections to the time are too strong for me to see beyond them, but I didn't feel the life-and-death reality of what was facing the character. (Interesting that one of my sisters got married about a month before the movie is set, and her husband got sent to - Germany.) I'm really curious about whether having more of a chance to inhabit the character led to a better portrayal in Day Zero.
My history as a McCarthy supporter bothered me even more than I suspected it might. It was hard to take RFK being touted as the peace candidate when the reports on the primary voting reminded us [me] that it wasn't Nixon he defeated that day, or even Humphrey, but McCarthy. The only mention of McCarthy, except for those polling numbers, was the comment by one campaign worker about how close he'd gotten to Johnson in New Hampshire - but no mention of how that effectively knocked Johnson out of the running and provided a vacuum for RFK to fill (and the evidence it gave that McCarthy had built the constituency Bobby was aiming to take over). Making Bobby the anointed savior, and then focusing the entire movie on the California primary, made McCarthy the bad guy - I don't think he deserved that, even if he couldn't realistically have been elected.
I don't know how it could have been done differently (well, yes, I do, but that would have been a different movie). I know it wasn't meant to be a piece of objective reporting. But maybe there could have been some kind of indication that Bobby wasn't the only one who was trying to change things, even if that didn't include going as far as pointing out that he was a latecomer to the effort. And I guess it bothers me that people who weren't around at the time will take the movie's POV as how it actually was.
Something that covered a multitude of sins (but not all of them) for me was the use of the correct version of "Sounds of Silence" - I held my breath going into the second verse...
honeyelf
11-27-2006, 02:13 AM
Elijah can be such a geek at times, but at least he's consistant! :D
Here's geekiness and consistency for you! He actually dressed to match Mumbles at the London premiere of Happy Feet! And he's wearing those scruffy One Boots again! We can all just be grateful he forgot to pack his bow-tie, I guess! :lol:
http://static.flickr.com/118/307496087_4dfaaf1459_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/121/307496086_b33092d5e2_o.jpg
Gotta love a geek!
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TG, I guess I'm not up on my history. I turned 9 the day after Bobby died, and that's about all I remember of the event. (My husband's younger yet.) Thanks for the other side. My family and I drove away from the theater other night saying that Emilio had a bit hero-worship going on in the film; I didn't know exactly how much hero worship though.
honey!
tgshaw
11-27-2006, 08:33 AM
And he's wearing those scruffy One Boots again!
It was nice seeing him in the CTJ in Bobby, even if it wasn't the CTJ. :p
TG, I guess I'm not up on my history. I turned 9 the day after Bobby died, and that's about all I remember of the event. (My husband's younger yet.) Thanks for the other side. My family and I drove away from the theater other night saying that Emilio had a bit hero-worship going on in the film; I didn't know exactly how much hero worship though.
I hate to call it "sides" - although on the day of the California primary, it certainly was. So much of how party nominees are chosen has changed since then that now it's hard to believe that after those primary results Humphrey could have been nominated. But delegates were free agents in those days, and deals were still brokered in smoke-filled rooms (the cigarette smoking in the movie was historically accurate!). Everything that happened in 1968 was the catalyst for changing the rules so that primary results became more than moral victories and actually affected the nomination (which has had the side effect of making party conventions much more boring ;) ).
My reaction could be labeled as sour grapes, and probably is to some extent. The way things were run in 1968, there's no way McCarthy could possibly have been nominated, much less elected. To win the party nomination in those days you had to have a power structure behind you, because you had to be able to cut those deals at the convention. McCarthy's candidacy had the effect a third-party candidate would have today: getting the major parties to at least look at the issues people cared about. Then, if it was obvious enough people were concerned enough, someone with the needed power structure behind him (such as a Kennedy) could step in and actually challenge the status quo. I think all of us old McCarthy supporters admit today that RFK's assassination was the death knell for any hope of changing the status quo peacefully that year; but in 1968 a lot of us were [very!] young McCarthy supporters and too idealistic to be politically practical.
If RFK had lived, it would have been a showdown between him and Humphrey at the Democratic convention - instead of a coronation for Humphrey with a revolution going on in the streets (and occasionally inside the convention hall). If RFK had won the nomination, which is entirely possible although not a sure thing, he would have been up against Nixon in the general election. So, could history have been different if RFK had lived? Absoutely. But, of course, there's no way of saying how history would have been different. (The Star Trek episode "The City on the Edge of Forever" and the Red Dwarf episode in which JFK isn't assassinated each in its own way makes the statement that unforeseen consequences of changes in history can be more powerful than the expected ones.)
If I say too much more on this, I'll have to mod myself for being off-topic, but I think some discussion of it is on-topic as it certainly affects how Bobby is watched. If anyone wants further reading, I'd highly recommend Norman Mailer's Miami and the Siege of Chicago - bearing in mind that Mailer wasn't exactly "apolitical," to put it mildly. But he was writing from the midst of the storm, so gives a hint of the emotions involved instead of simply stating the facts as a historian writing today might.
honeyelf
11-27-2006, 10:50 AM
Well, TG, I for one would really love to discuss this. One of the women I saw Bobby with in London said "When JFK was shot we lost our innocence. When Bobby was killed, we lost our hope...and we've been drfiting ever since." I've been thinking about her statement since then, and frankly it's hard for me to believe that one man could have really affected the change she seems to have be hoping for. It seems Mr. Estvez is not the only one with a raging case of hero worship; judging by some of the applause in the theater on Friday night, it's going around. (Maybe that says as much about the general dissatisfaction with the current adimistration as it does about Bobby.)
My husband and I thought about her statement and here are some of our thoughts:
*Maybe I'm not the one to say, but it seems we've made great strides in race relations as far as black and white.
*Relations between illegal Mexicans and US citizens could certainly be better. I thought the line in the movie about "Mexicans being the new [n-word]" was thought provoking. It does seem that at any given period in history there is one or more racial group that is singled out for suspicion and unfair treatment. (My grandparents could have probably recalled a day when it was the Irish that were treated so, and since some of them were Scots Irish, might have been mistreated themselves.) But the hate lies in the hearts of individuals, and it's hard to see where policy might change that. In fact I'd say the policy of "Affirmative Action" caused a lot of resentment, especially among marginalized people who don't fall into the categories that make them deserving of special consideration.
ETA:*Poverty contributes a great deal to race hatred. I'm not up on history enough, but IIRC JFK's poverty policies seem to have helped alleviate poverty in this country somewhat. Perhaps RFK could have done more?
*At the time that RFK was a potential president, homosexuality was still a very taboo topic, and the Stonewall riots were only a few years in the past. It's hard to imagine that RFK woud have brought that struggle any further along than it is now, good Catholic that he was. ETA: I'm wrong about the Stonewall Riots; they didn't happen until the next year.
*On the other hand, with Nixon at the helm for the next five years, the nation lost a lot of its trust in elected officials. It's not hard to imagine that we'd be in a very different place right now with our two party system, the rift having become deep, wide, and embittered since then.
Hmmm, I wonder if fandom and politics mix? :p Sorry, folks. Just something I've been pondering.
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Shelbyshire, I can't believe I forgot about Shia LeBeouf's bare bum bum! :o So sorry 'bout that! Glad you enjoyed the film.
honey!
Mariole
11-27-2006, 11:42 AM
He actually dressed to match Mumbles at the London premiere of Happy Feet!
Oh, this is so wonderfully geeky I am squirming with delight. Thanks for sharing that! I'm all grins. :D
I only lightly skimmed the Bobby comments, in keeping with avoiding spoilers. I'm afraid I was too young to remember it also. I remember JFK, mostly from the affect it had on my parents. So no personal remembrance of history will intervene. However, it just goes to show that a movie can only show a slice, a limited snapshot, of an event, particularly such a huge one. The director must choose what to emphasize--and the Kennedys had a powerful mystique that survives to this day. *hugs all around*
sneaking
11-27-2006, 12:49 PM
However, it just goes to show that a movie can only show a slice, a limited snapshot, of an event, particularly such a huge one. The director must choose what to emphasize--and the Kennedys had a powerful mystique that survives to this day. *hugs all around*
I think, aside from the fact that Emilio does have a genuine, over the top hero worship of Bobby going on, the movie must be trying to get across the ideas and ideals that were shared by a section of society and not just Bobby. That's not easy to do if you start being a stickler for accuracy in a movie as it just blurs things - so maybe they end up attributing everything to Bobby but does that really matter a great deal if the message comes across? Nobody expects movies to be historically accurate (crf. JFK, U571, the Patriot, any number of films).
Caveat: Not seen the film, so I've no idea what they do or how outrageous it is
tgshaw
11-27-2006, 01:22 PM
Responding to a couple of honey's remarks at the same time: It was only one generation ago when my aunt was applying for a teaching job in a public school system and was told to her face, "We don't hire any d*** Catholics." Whether the Kennedy's were good Catholics or not could be argued from many directions, but they were visible Catholics, and JFK's election as the first (and still only) Catholic President was a much-needed recognition that the members of this conglomeration of immigrants are, indeed, Americans. At that time, at least, anti-Catholicism had very little to do with religion and a whole lot to do with resentment against immigrants.
Regarding the comments of the woman in London, the part I'd disagree with is the "drifting ever since." According to what I have to admit is only my interpretation of history, what was lost with the assassinations of MLK and RFK within a few months of each other wasn't the hope that things could be changed, but the hope that things could be changed peacefully. Things were changed even without MLK and RFK, so in a way their continued lives might not have made much of a difference in the way things are now. But it's possible (not a sure thing) that their continued lives could have held off some of the violence that erupted when people lost hope of changing things peacefully.
Thomas Jefferson said that a country needs a revolution every couple of centuries in order to stay democratic, and I truly believe that's what we had in the late 60's and early 70's. It ended not with the last helicopter taking off from the roof of the embassy in Saigon, but with Nixon taking off in a helicopter after he resigned. The huge shift of power during that time from backroom brokered deals to even the President not being above the law was revolutionary. But it didn't come peacefully.
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Simulposted with sneaking:
...the movie must be trying to get across the ideas and ideals that were shared by a section of society and not just Bobby.
In the review on my website, I say that that's what I hope the movie is trying to do, but IMVHO there's no way to deduce that from the movie itself. Just one statement to that effect would have been nice. (And I freely admit that RFK was the only person who had the power at that time to accomplish anything so, in that way, he was the person who mattered.)
The one thing that bugged me is that someone who was an important part of that section of society is the opposition in the movie. Maybe one of the campaign workers could have said something like, "It's too bad they have to run against each other because they believe in so many of the same things." Instead, the movie seems to show RFK's victory in the California primary as his triumph over the bad guys.
txtac
11-27-2006, 04:51 PM
WOOD BLASTS NEW LINE FOR JACKSON HOBBIT SNUB
Actor ELIJAH WOOD has blasted New Line Cinema bosses for refusing to sign LORD OF THE RINGS director PETER JACKSON to take charge of THE HOBBIT. The New Zealand film-maker told fans recently that "MARK ORDESKY (studio boss) told us that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on the Hobbit and the LOTR prequel". Wood, who played hobbit FRODO in all three of Jackson's film adaptations of the JRR TOLKIEN classic novels, admits he is dismayed by New Line's decision. He says, " I think the jury is still out. We'll see what happens - but I was very disappointed by the news. "I think it is very foolish."
27/11/2006 13:23
http://contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/wood%20blasts%20new%20line%20for%20jackson%20hobbit%20snub_1014695
Honey wrote: Hmmm, I wonder if fandom and politics mix?
With the HHHHUUUGGGEEE fandom that we have on this site- NOBODY mentioned at all Frodo's run for the King of Gondor in this last election. I posted a link to Frodo's campaign ad and NOBODY said a thing! :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDMWFHxQu6g&mode=related&search=
Warm up the TiVo's. Tommorrow, Tuesday, Nov. 28, HBO is going to be running the 30 minute program on Happy Feet again. It is on right after Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. Check your local listings for times. Central time is 7:00pm for Harry Potter and 9:30pm for the Happy Feet program.
Friday, Dec. 1st, Elijah is listed to be on the Jimmy Kimmel Live show.
honeyelf
11-27-2006, 05:31 PM
We're you the one who posted that, TxTac? My husband and I both thought it was hysterical. I especially liked the "bowed down to Dwarves' special interest groups"!
Thanks to everyone for their interesting and thoughtful responses so far.
hugs,
honey!
Mariole
11-27-2006, 05:33 PM
NOBODY mentioned at all Frodo's run for the King of Gondor in this last election. I posted a link to Frodo's campaign ad and NOBODY said a thing!
I thought that was very cute. I forwarded it to my family to enjoy. I came to it through LJ first, so didn't respond in this forum. If anyone hasn't seen it yet, it's delightful. Cheers!
Shelbyshire
11-27-2006, 10:55 PM
Thank you for the link, txtac, to the Tavis Smiley interview transcripts. Well take a look. I first saw the campaign ad for Frodo at The One Ring.net and loved it!
Fiondra, did someone point you to elijah finds in LJ? And, welcome!tg...Something that covered a multitude of sins (but not all of them) for me was the use of the correct version of "Sounds of Silence" - I held my breath going into the second verse... I must admit, tg, that when I heard the song start I had the live version in Central Park begin in my head and then I realized it was not that one but the original version. Without having the lyrics in front of me, what is in the second verse that had you holding your breath? Shelbyshire, I can't believe I forgot about Shia LeBeouf's bare bum bum! So sorry 'bout that! Glad you enjoyed the film.
honey! Not a problem, honey. Shes seen one or two of them before this. Sneaking...I think, aside from the fact that Emilio does have a genuine, over the top hero worship of Bobby going on, the movie must be trying to get across the ideas and ideals that were shared by a section of society and not just Bobby. tg...The one thing that bugged me is that someone who was an important part of that section of society is the opposition in the movie. Maybe one of the campaign workers could have said something like, "It's too bad they have to run against each other because they believe in so many of the same things." Instead, the movie seems to show RFK's victory in the California primary as his triumph over the bad guys. I was 4 in 1968 so I also have no personal remembrance of that time. I also admit I am the least political person in my family or any other family for that matter. When I went to see the movie, I had already read reviews that said the movie was not really about RFK as much as it was about the other people that were there that day. Their stories are what touched me and not RFK or any politics that was discussed. Although, I did chuckle when the one campaign worker was explaining how to punch the ballot without leaving any hanging chads. Florida, anyone? Could the characters and their stories be considered a section of society that shared the ideas and ideals of these politicians?
*I never did take a debate class in high school so please excuse my lack of debating skills. This is all just my humble opinion.*
tgshaw
11-28-2006, 08:54 AM
...Without having the lyrics in front of me, what is in the second verse that had you holding your breath?
It wasn't the second verse itself, but the fact that the second version of "Sounds of Silence" (the one that became a hit) uses electronic additions, while the original is completely acoustic. It's on the first downbeat of the second verse that the electronic stuff kicks in, so that's what I was waiting for: "Down restless streets I walked a- [Boom]..." I wanted to cheer when that spot came - and the music remained all acoustic! :cool: :cool: You have to go back to the album Wednesday Morning 3 AM for that version. (And I could get a lot more geeky about all that, but will spare you ;) .)
*I never did take a debate class in high school so please excuse my lack of debating skills. This is all just my humble opinion.*
Well, I debated for 3 years in high school, and had a pretty good record :p , but one trick is that it's easier to debate against the side you actually believe in, because you know all the arguments. My best year record-wise was the one I spent saying that the Federal government should not become more involved in environmental protection (and it was doing a lot less then than it is now). ;)
But I don't mean this to be a debate, and I agree with what's been said about the "section of society" and all. I just had to vent my disappointment.
I would like to know, though, what you, or anyone else, saw in Elijah's acting that I didn't. If I knew there was something to look for, I might go back for a second viewing. I felt as if he was saying the lines but wasn't "becoming" the character in the way he so often does. I do think it would have been better if some of the other storylines could have been cut so that one could have been expanded to allow more development of the characters (not just because Elijah's in it ;) , but because I think it's very relevant to the movie as a whole). Maybe it's because I'm not married, but I felt no emotional connection with anyone in the various storylines except the kitchen crew. I have been in their position.
Shelbyshire
11-28-2006, 10:26 AM
tg...Maybe it's because I'm not married, but I felt no emotional connection with anyone in the various storylines except the kitchen crew. I'm not married now but I was. But I don't think that has anything to do with being emotional connected to any of them. Any relationship can bring about them feelings. I guess I felt their (the older ladies/actresses) losses...their loss of youth, loss of innocence, loss of time, loss of who/what they were...and it all comes to aging. I'm getting older, I don't mind it but I'm feeling it emotionally. Helen Hunt's character, IMHO, reinforced how important it is to not lose who you are on the inside. No matter what goes on around you, no matter what that significant other or anyone else claims is wrong with you, to always remember what you like that makes you you. It can even be a favorite song, place, or book. In the movie, her husband wanted her to come back to herself.
As far as Elijah's acting, the kiss sealed it for me. In Try Seventeen, I cringed and felt I was watching maybe my own child in that situation. As brief as it was, I didn't feel that way at all when he kissed Lindsey. I saw a young man instead of a boy. I would have liked to see more ( :mad: ). His older looks, maybe? I don't know if I can explain it. I would like to see it again if I have the chance. The theater is 30 miles away from where I live so unless I sneak out under the guise of Christmas shopping, it may not happen.
How do you all feel about the kiss?
I'll check out that version of Sounds of Silence, too.
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