May I take the liberty of starting the new thread?
The previous thread is to be found at http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3898&page=20&pp=25#post317357

For starters, I'd like to repost Tg's opening comments of the Faculty Lounge x11:.

--And my basic comment is that different actors have different strengths/talents/gifts. There are some things a good method actor could do better than Elijah could. I don't know if he's the best actor possible for the Iggy Popp role. That kind of depends on what sides of Iggy the film is going to show; I thought the comments from his wife about how different he was off-stage from on-stage were interesting and would fit Elijah's acting style in some ways. Not knowing if he's the best person available for the job doesn't mean that I don't think he can pull it off.

OTOH, Elijah's ability to connect at an emotional - even subconscious - level with the character he's playing is something I haven't seen anyone else match (saw a flash or two of it in Billy Boyd in RotK). His best acting involves stuff that would be impossible for anyone to do from an intellectual POV. Micro-expressions, autonomic nervous system responses, undefinable but perfect emotional expression - he "gets" the character's emotional state even when he can't say afterward exactly what he did. I agree with the Huck Finn director who told Elijah he shouldn't try to approach a role in the same way Courtney B. Vance did. It is possible for an actor like Elijah to lose touch with the character by overintellectualizing him.

That might very well mean he's not the best actor for roles that require a more intellectual approach to the character. No, I can't see him becoming a Ranger to the extent Viggo did; that wouldn't have been a great role for him. But I'm also pretty confident in saying that Viggo couldn't have given us The Turn, or the moment between "Do they?" and "Do they, Gandalf?" when you see Frodo's world fall apart on his face, or the complex mix of emotions that Frodo shows on many occasions. I was glad/relieved/hopeful when I heard Elijah'd been cast as Frodo because I knew he had talents that would be needed to play Frodo.

And, yes, especially from the pics on the first day of LotR filming, he popped in and out of character awfully fast. But that was a day largely taken up with making a variety of "hobbit piles," and it was the first day of shooting. I think it's a positive statement to say that you can immediately tell the difference between Elijah in costume and Elijah in character. There's at least one behind-the-scenes shot at the Grey Havens where Elijah's off to the side, obviously not on camera, but also very obviously Frodo. So there are evidently times when he knows it's best to stay within the character. We also know that after the Wheel of Fire scene, he had to go off by himself for awhile because he was so emotionally shaken -- but for him, PJ's "Go deeper" didn't take him deeper into himself but deeper into Frodo, which I think is one of the big differences between his acting and that of actors with a more thought-out acting style.

Stu's probably one of Elijah's most non-subtle and openly-emotional characters, and did allow him to let loose (but there's still a big difference between Stu and Elijah). Huck and Casey are both wonderfully nuanced characters, but because of the kinds of movies they're in that might not be recognized as much as it could be. He'll very possibly never be as universally appreciated as some actors are, because his acting isn't always easy; sometimes it makes you work at it, the way a well-written book does. And there are some types of film "literature" his style is better suited for than some others, but IMHO that's true of all actors, just in different ways.


OK, well then, here's our first lecter, err, lecture in this new Faculty thread:

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Doctor Frobidal Wood: First principles, Faculty. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: how does he do it? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you study?
Faculty members: He acts...
Doctor Wood: No! That is incidental. What is the first and principal thing he does, what need does he serve by acting?
Faculty members: Empathy, curiosity, fun...
Doctor Wood: No, he produces material for endless discussions. That's his nature. And how do we begin a new thread, Faculty? Do we seek out things to post? Make an effort to answer.
Faculty members: No. We just...
Doctor Wood: No. Precisely. We begin a new thread by posting pic spam. Don't you feel eyes moving over Elijah pictures, Faculty? And don't your eyes move over the things you want: more gorgeous Elijah pictures?


So spam away, dear Faculty! :D :k

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(Well, ok -- I know that wasn't what Michelangelo had in mind originally but... ;) )

:) Did whiteling say spam away? Okay!

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And one of my Frodo favorites...

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*C4 falls off her chair in a swoon from seeing Howard and Elijah in the same picture*

(Iggy Pop was an opening act for HS's group, "Lighthouse," in the 70s.)

C4

Elijah's gonna "raise the roof" on our new thread! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah%202/FlipperPhotoshoot4.jpg

Whiteling, I'll have to say you take the cake for unique opening posts! That was wonderful! :lol:

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Here's little Professor Wood ready to deliver his lecture, leather elbow patches and all! :) And a bit of Eugene Hutz never hurt anything; hope you don't mind he came along! :)

Shelbyshire, I love that pic of Frodo snoozing on the nose of that statue too!
:k

Totally OT: The family went to a restaurant tonight where there was a largish TV in the corner (I hate when that happens!) on which was playing Twister. At one point I looked up to see Philip Seymour Hoffman on the screen, playing a rather obnoxious peripheral character. And now Mr. Hoffman is an Oscar nominee for a movie that couldn't have been more different, and less block-bustery! :cool: Our college-age kids haven't seen Capote, so my husband and I were synopsizing the plot for them: an author exposed to evil, and essentially destroyed by it through his own vanity Our son observed "Wow! Sounds interesting! Like the movie Return of the Jedi should have been!" :lol:

honey!

Hi Faculty...yes, I am indeed still alive ...

Whiteling,
Doctor Wood: "....That's his nature. And how do we begin a new thread, Faculty? Do we seek out things to post? Make an effort to answer
Faculty members: No. We just...
Doctor Wood: No. Precisely. We begin a new thread by posting pic spam. Don't you feel eyes moving over Elijah pictures, Faculty? And don't your eyes move over the things you want: more gorgeous Elijah pictures?"
.

Oh OK, if you insist...but under protest, you understand !!!
Here's something you may not have seen...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/annwyn55/Elijah/blackshirt3-021_recolored.jpg
Courtesy of my LJ Friend Annwyn...a recoloured version of my very favourite B & W picture from the Black shirt shoot...
The editing programme she used is from here :-Recolouring Programme (http://www.recolored.com/index.php)
Ain't it grand !!!

Another one...not quite so well known...from the same shoot :-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/wendylady1/Elijah/EJW.jpg

Here's one that was left at my Journal comments page for Valentine's Day, by Achila...ta very much !! 'Twas appreciated...( and edited slightly, to get rid of the annoying background )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/wendylady1/Elijah/EJW1.jpg

Go visit the Hugs Haven for some good gossipy stuff ...

(Whiteling...FAB opening post, btw !! )

Ha! I'm glad I checked. I wondered what had happened to the thread to be so quiet. :)

Great pictures, everyone :)!
Bunnie, I've never seen that one you posted, apparently from Flipper days. Very cute. And Wendy, your friend Annwyn did a nice colouring job on the famous B&W Black Shirt pics!


Professor Wood has already took a seat in front of the class...

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What he said, Bunnie!!! Enjoy your special day! :)
(No ellbow patches today, but his jeans looks like it could need a good deal of patches ;))

Happy Birthday, BunnieBugs!

C4

Ah, yes, Professor Wood... I remember him well -

As he appeared in the 1954 college yearbook (It was rumored that this photo caught several generations of his ancestors peering over his shoulder, but the truth is the student photographer couldn't hold the camera steady with Professor Wood looking at her - well, could you?):

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/16d6f310.jpg

Caught on film preparing for a lecture:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/8a53dd90.jpg


And for Bunnie's birthday, a more personal moment with the head of the history department (I believe he was receiving his tenure review here):

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/8a18ab00.jpg

Happy Birthday, Bunnie - Thanks for all you add to the thread!

Have a great birthday BUNNIE!
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Have some birthday beads... :D

Happy Birthday, Bunnie!

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Oops -- that's not a proper bunny....how's this?

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Right. Not exactly what you'd hoped for, cute tho it is. Then, how 'bout this? Better?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/03-12-200517-03500-crop.jpg

Hope your day is wonderful!!!


PS -- Here's a French website showing the first poster for "Paris, Je T'aime"
http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=46401.html

Happy Birthday, BUNNIE! :k :k :k
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'Lijah is bringing bag loads of best wishes for a happy year ahead, loads of love, and a fabulous patina for your little red chucks!

And bushels of this stuff too, Laughter!

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Also? Changeable hair! :D

honey!

Another new Faculty thread!

Hope I'm not too late to deliver presents.

One for The Faculty:
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ONE FOR BUNNIE! (http://www.imag.us/x/blossom/Bunnie.gif)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BUNNIE. HOPE YOU HAVE A LOVELY DAY!

And last, but not least - I only just noticed it's your birthday too, PEACEWEAVER. No time to make a gif, but perhaps a Frodo pic will do.

http://www.imag.us/x/blossom/Peaceweaver.jpg

Enjoy your day.

The Lad's gone and cut his hair! (sulks)

The Lad's gone and cut his hair! (sulks)
Yah, I was sulking the same way, over in Hugs Haven. :(

( I wish there was a 'tears' emoticon.)

(BunnieBugs, you have B'day greetings over in Hugs Haven, too. :) )

~ Mechtild


ETA: You, too, Peaceweaver? Happy Birthday!

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Happy Birthday, Bunnie!!!! I hope it's been fun...


And Many MANY Happy Returns to you, Peaceweaver!!!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/alyonir/Gear--inblack.jpg

And Whiteling....I love how you started the thread!!!!! The picture is perfect to the text :D :cool:

ps...my pictures are often so small when they post and I don't know how to control it. If they post small...then think big!!! Thank you. ;)

Thank you, everyone, for the lovely birthday wishes! It's always so much fun to check in here on my birthday. :) It was a wonderful day, filled with wonderful greetings. Thank you so much! You make a girl feel loved. :k

And Peaceweaver gets one fresh from yesterday's Bacchus parade at Mardi Gras:

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Happy birthday, PW! Hope you had a great day!

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Happy Birthday, Peaceweaver!
Knight Frodo delivers your birthday cake hopefully just in time! :)
(Now, that'd be a hairdo on Elijah, wouldn't it?)


Tg, your 1954 Professor Wood series made me :lol:

And welcome back, Mechtild!! :)

Achila - Thanks for the "Paris, Je T'aime" link. There's been such little news on that, that it's reassuring to see Elijah's name on the complete cast list and to see that it's actually being released on March 15! I don't suppose there's any news yet on when it might hit the U.S.?

Noticed that the same site has a listing for "The Passenger," although there's no new info on it. There's also a nice little bio for Elijah. I kind of liked this title for one of his movies: "L'Irrésistible North" :p

Very glad to see the former king back at Mardi Gras this year, of all years. A lovely show of support and hopefully a morale booster for his krew :k .

Happy birthday, peaceweaver! Wish we saw more of you, but it's wonderful whenever you can stop in. :k For the occasion, here are a couple of seldom-seen anonymous etchings from a private collection. There's some disagreement about the dating of these, so I'll leave that up to your expert judgment :p :

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/26cd7d20.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/26ee3250.jpg

Whiteling - Glad you enjoyed the reminiscenses about Professor Wood. Of course, they never would have come to mind without your great opening post. :cool:

Happy Birthday, Peaceweaver!

C4

Achila - Thanks for the "Paris, Je T'aime" link. There's been such little news on that, that it's reassuring to see Elijah's name on the complete cast list and to see that it's actually being released on March 15! I don't suppose there's any news yet on when it might hit the U.S.?No idea. It's supposed to go to Cannes, so perhaps that's March 15? It was originally going to open the festival but that honor is now going to The DaVinci Code (providing they can clear up the legal hullabaloo now revolving around that, one supposes).

Noticed that the same site has a listing for "The Passenger," although there's no new info on it.Didn't notice that, and that's Lij's "Passenger", right? There's another film that was recently released with that same name. My guess is that the name of Lij's film may change and that "The Passenger" may be a working title. And speaking of films about punk singers, Entertainment Weekly released the name of the actor chosen to portray Ian Curtis -- it's an unknown guy. They were considering Cilian Murphy but decided he was too short. So they really are trying for authenticity. Good luck to them. :)

Happy Birthday to Peaceweaver!

It's supposed to go to Cannes, so perhaps that's March 15? Wasn't it Bobby that was going to Cannes? And that festival is in May, so this must be something else. Hm...

Wasn't it Bobby that was going to Cannes? And that festival is in May, so this must be something else. Hm...Bobby is being considered for Cannes -- it was in the list of films that were up for judging -- and you're right -- I didn't think Cannes was so soon.

ETA -- Just checked the IMDB -- the release date is listed as 17 May (Cannes Film Festival)

Happy Birthday, PEACEWEAVER! :k :k :k

Elijah sees a good year ahead for you!

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Achila said:
Didn't notice that, and that's Lij's "Passenger", right? There's another film that was recently released with that same name. My guess is that the name of Lij's film may change and that "The Passenger" may be a working title.

The Passenger film listed at the Paris j'Taime site definetley Lijah's. The movie of the same name recently in theaters was actually a re-release of a Jack Nicholson fim from the early seventies. I've seen it. No peaunut butter involved! ;)

honey!

The Passenger film listed at the Paris j'Taime site definetley Lijah's. The movie of the same name recently in theaters was actually a re-release of a Jack Nicholson fim from the early seventies. I've seen it. That was the one I meant, which was why I questioned it -- I've not seen any "concrete" listings of Lij's "The Passenger" anywhere yet (like on IMDB, etc.). BTW, I don't know if any of you speak French (that's one I don't), but there were several remarks below the listing that appeared to endorse Elijah's casting. That's always nice to see. If anyone would like to translate that, have at it -- it's here: http://www.allocine.fr/communaute/forum/message.html?communaute=2&nofil=407875&cfilm=109756

Oh Oh I love birthdays here.........

Happy Birthday Bunnie
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Thanks for staying on top :eek: of TOL's activities. :k



Okay one more......Happy Birthday Peaceweaver

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saile

p.s thanks for the avi download :k Honey. Can't have too much of a good thing! :D It was fun to see the GreyBook again too.

I'm glad to hear it worked for you Saile!

:( Happy Belated Birthdays, BunnieBugs and Peaceweaver. I'm so sorry to have missed the cake and ice cream. I've taken to daydreaming lately...

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...of the color green. I'm weary of white, winter, ice and snow.

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(A hobbit lass in Florida)

:) I hope your days were great! :)

Paris Je t'aime part doesn't look soft or cuddly (http://http://cinema.telerama.fr/edito.asp?art_airs=WEB1002375&srub=1)

Happy Ash Wednesday, everyone!

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Thanks again for the birthday wishes, everyone!

I followed sneaking's link up there and found this:

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This is the corrected link (http://cinema.telerama.fr/edito.asp?art_airs=WEB1002375&srub=1).

Cool, huh? Thank you, sneaking, for finding that! What a lovely surprise!

Cool, huh?OOOOH~!!! Bunnie, thanks!

Looks like Lij is the bitee! Can someone translate what it says? I get that he's an American tourist and that it's Pere Lachaise, but that's it.

OOOOH~!!! Bunnie, thanks!

Looks like Lij is the bitee! Can someone translate what it says? I get that he's an American tourist and that it's Pere Lachaise, but that's it.

Someone on my LJ got this out of it, probably from babelfish:

Vincenzo Natali, the 8th (segment). Elijah Wood in a fantastic Parsian night that undoubtedly was more than the American tourist imagined. The movie is Paris, I love you, and Wes Craven is also in the adventure, where is found the ideal for its cinema of fear: the Father-Lachaise cemetery.

A little off, but the basic idea, I think.

EDIT: Someone did a more accurate translation:

The 8th (segment) by Vincenzo Natali. Elijah Wood in a Parisian night of a genre that is no doubt more fantastic than the American tourist he plays has imagined. Genre cinema invites itself (literal translation - can't come up with something better, sorry) in Paris je t'aime, since Wes Craven is also part of the adventure, where he has found an ideal backdrop for his cinema of spiritual fear: the cemetary of Père-Lachaise.

From someone else, that "invites itself" was translated as "steps in", which makes much more sense.

For remembering my b-day. And happy birthday to Bunnie! You, dear friends, don't realize how much you all ROCK!

What lovely pictures to start off a new thread! The Twelfth Faculty Lounge!! Whodathunkit?! I'm an old timer here at the lounge; why, dearie, I remember the old days, at the Blue Place, don't you know.... :)

I don't get much chance to post anymore, but I'm usually reading what others are posting! I must say the news about these three new films, Paris je t'aime, Bobby, and the Iggy story (is that the Passenger?) is all very exciting. No wonder this thread just keeps on going, and going, and going.

No posts in 3 days?! :eek:

I've nothing new to add, but because of the Oscar frenzy, I feel like re-watching all the Documentaries on the EEs, especially "The End of All Things."

Does anyone remember who said (and on which DVD) that the dirtier EW was as Frodo, the bluer his eyes seemed?

Achila, Pelagia and I saw the TEs in NYC last weekend. EW sure is pretty. Did I say that? :rolleyes: What I meant to say was the full size screen definitely adds to the movie-going experience. And I saw the car.

My fingers, toes, and eyes are all crossed for luck for the KK Oscar nominees tomorrow night. Go WETA!

C4

Does anyone remember who said (and on which DVD) that the dirtier EW was as Frodo, the bluer his eyes seemed?
Ceefour, it was cameraman Andrew Lesnie, who said it. And how right he was! --- But I don't know on which DVD to look for, sorry. :o
Oh yes, the Oscars... we'll see. *knocks on Wood, ahem* :p --- I'm also looking forward to seeing pics and reports of the Swedish game convention in Gothenburg this weekend, with Elijah as guest. :)

HALLO EVERYBODY !!!

Back a again after a big crash in my comp...EVERYTHING IS GONE !!!!! :( :(

PHOTOS AND ALL OTHER STUFF !!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BUNNIE AND PEACEWEVER!!!!

whiteling im sorry to say that photos will not come from me !!!!! :( :( :( :(

now i pointing my nose to germany in november !!cross you fingers for me this time !!! :z: :z: :z:

is there anubody else out there who is going ???

whitling i have wrote you a e-mail ! :k

LOVE YOU ALL/WOOD

Am I too late for the picspam? :confused: If I am, please excuse this:

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Um, EandMe? May I say that on behalf of my fellow Faculty members, that lovely pics like that are NEVER unwelcome!!!!

Does anyone remember who said (and on which DVD) that the dirtier EW was as Frodo, the bluer his eyes seemed?
Oh, you mean like this? --

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/2dcda4d0.jpg

or this? --

http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/1081b4e0.jpg

To fully appreciate that second one, you have to realize that I did nothing different to Frodo's eyes either before, after or during the sepia-toning process (I did, however, touch up his curls, IIRC ;) ). They just came out that way. -- Compare them to Sam's!

[Note: This was not picspamming, but research! :p :haha: ]

--Wood, IIRC, that sepia pic was originally posted as your birthday present, so if you're beginning to rebuild your gallery you might want to save it... :( What a terrible thing to happen! :(

And I saw the car.

I thought that had been edited out later - Guess it must have been just for the DVD/VHS.

Yes, tg, like that!

In the name of research, I have been listening to the Production and Post-Production Commentaries to try and find where Andrew Lesnie commented on EW's eyes. Listening to these fellows chat is a real joy. (Little, tiny swoon for Alex Funke.) Their enthusiam for their own work and their admiration and support for the work of other crew members and the cast is great to hear.

Andrew Lesnie doesn't say anything about EW's eyes in either the FOTR or TTT commentary, and he is not on the ROTK. So I'll have to keep searching. Such drudgery. :rolleyes:

The car was edited out for the DVDs, but I have also seen it on the National Geographic special that was included with the FOTR EE Collector's Edition. On the Production commentary, it is acknowledged that the car was there, they knew it was there, but figured no one would notice (like the barrels and Pippin's tied and untied hands in TTT). Achila and Pelagia had never noticed the flesh colored knee socks Frodo is wearing on Caradhras either. (I guess they just weren't interested in EW's feet. ;) )

C4

ceefour, I think Andrew said it in an interview on one of the appendix DVDs. I assume it's ROTK but it's just a vague memory at this point!

Just a quick note to let you know that Paris, je t'aime will be playing at the Cannes film festival on May 18. :) I got the info
here (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060308/film_nm/cannes_dc_1).

And I saw the car.I am proud to say that I have managed to never see the car. :p

I am proud to say that I have managed to never see the car. :p
((((Bunnie))))

~ Mechtild

I posted this on my LJ but thought I'd tell you guys this little story too --

I had lunch with a friend of mine on Monday and she asked me what Lij was up to. She's only seen him in LOTR but loved the films and thought he was great in them. I told her that he was going to be doing the Iggy movie, and she said, "No?! You're kidding?!" Then she proceeded to tell me that she'd seen Iggy perform in Philadelphia at some club in the early 80's.

But get this -- she then said, "Oh yes, I can totally see Elijah doing it". Coming from someone who saw the real Iggy live, back in the day, and doesn't really know Elijah all that well, I'd say that was pretty encouraging.

ETA -- Someone on LJ just said that the GSH DVD was being released on April 18 -- gotta check that out -- stay tuned.

I am proud to say that I have managed to never see the car.
Bunnie, spoken (or written) like a true Tolkienite :cool: ! The Professor would definitely appreciate the difference between "I have never managed to see the car" and "I have managed to never see the car." :p

[cf. the difference between 'I do not now choose to do what I have come to do," and 'I now choose not to do what I have come to do.']

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Interesting side note on Iggy, Achila. I'm completely Iggy-ignorant - were the 1980's during the "early" part of his career that's supposed to be covered by the movie?

Interesting side note on Iggy, Achila. I'm completely Iggy-ignorant - were the 1980's during the "early" part of his career that's supposed to be covered by the movie?I'm not sure, to tell the truth. It's my understanding that it's supposed to run through his tenure with The Iguanas through his early solo career -- not knowing all that much about him or the script, I couldn't say.

So love seeing your Frodo "photos" Tg .
Made me miss him. :( so I 'm browsing through files to cheer myself up. Here's one for you too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/frodofotr.jpg

saile

ETA -- Someone on LJ just said that the GSH DVD was being released on April 18 -- gotta check that out -- stay tuned.

I already have my copy. I was watching the extra material this morning and this might be spoilerish to those who haven't yet got a copy. I was especially enjoying the interview with Elijah "From hobbit to Hooligan". He speaks there of Matt, how Matt doesn't have family and friends to tie him down, no relationship with his father, et cetera. It made me think about those scenes with Matt and his dad, and wonder whether it was somehow cathartic for Elijah to play this role because of how it seems to resemble ... you know. And I thought of how strongly Elijah seems to connect wellbeing with having friends and family. If you think about it, he could as easily have made a connection between the fact that Matt is kicked out of Harvard and therefore cannot pursue his career, and how being stumped in that way might throw you off course and make one susceptible to the kind of trouble that ensue. To me, this speaks of having made the discovery that selfrealization is secondary in necessity to making real and lasting commitments to other people. I do believe this is true about Elijah, he is sure about his priorities, and think it's part of why he is so self-deprecating (is that a word?) Anyway, he looks stunning in those commentaries and that is probably the real reson I'm still pondering over them twelve hours later....... ;)

I already have my copy. I was watching the extra material this morning and this might be spoilerish
Thanks for spoiling us, Eandme. ;)

~ Mechtild

Achila, so does your friend now know everything she ever wanted to know about EW, but was afraid to ask?

OK, tg, since logic has never been one of my strengths :o (just ask Mr. ceefour), what's the difference between I do not now choose to do what I have come to do.andI now choose not to do what I have come to do.
And the book saysBut I do not choose now to do what I came to do.My brain hurts. :rolleyes:

C4

ETA-Thanks, eandme.

Achila, so does your friend now know everything she ever wanted to know about EW, but was afraid to ask?

Probably, and Rammstein as well!

My brain hurts. :rolleyes:
Mine too :o.

In order to enhance the logic/linguistic confusion I'd like to present you the result of an on line translation made of a piece of text regarding Elijah's part in Paris je t'aime:
One night in 8th
A barred street, trucks parked in the neighbourhoods, an assembly on the pavement and a whole arsenal of technical thingummies which are spread out a little everywhere: it is well a turning. In the night which starts, the Canadian Vincenzo Natali took possession of a quiet corner of the 8E district, with two steps of Télérama, and one would believe oneself suddenly in an immense studio of cinema. Capped of a cap of baseball, like Spielberg on its more famous photographs, the realizer of ludic and futuristic Cubic (1997) directs the movements of a camera which is balanced at the end of a crane and will come to film with the vertical the young actor who played Frodon in The Lord of the Rings, Elijah Wood: he is lying on the ground and a strange liquid seems to leave his cranium, forming around his head a green pool of blood... Tourist mislaid with his free plan offered by the Galleries Lafayette, he has just met a creature of the Parisian night of the Transylvanian kind to the long teeth.

Us here into full in the trip with one impassioned of rather special effects, endowed to make emerge, with step large-thing, of the images which "make cinema as much as possible": on the video control screen of Vincenzo Natali, the street Portalis rocks in a universe enters Sin City and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, masterpiece of German expressionism.

:confused: :eek: Huh? It seems he'll be a vampire's victim.. :eek:
Maybe someone who is able to speak French should have a go at it.... .
Go here (http://cinema.telerama.fr/edito.asp?art_airs=M0602271512510).

And the book says
But I do not choose now to do what I came to do.
Okay, we'll start with that and throw out the other one - I was trying to quote the book without having the book available :rolleyes: , and was afraid I might be mixing it up a bit. But it's the same idea.

vs.
Quote:
I now choose not to do what I have come to do.
Very important distinction for Frodophiles who find themselves in "friendly discussions" with Tolkien readers who think Frodo was a wuss (or wimped out, or should have been hung as a traitor, or...)

It's the difference between "I choose" and "I do not choose".

If Frodo had said, "I choose not to do..." he would have been saying that he was choosing not to destroy the Ring.

OTOH, "I do not choose now to do..." fits exactly with Tolkien's statement that Frodo's will was completely overpowered by the Ring at that moment (he compares it to someone being crushed by a boulder). Frodo couldn't choose anything, so "I do not choose" is a literal statement of the truth.

There are three things I base this interpretation of the line on:

--Tolkien was very careful with the way he worded things.

--He rewrote this line multiple times.

--He considered free will to be a foundation of what makes us human, so saying that the Ring stripped Frodo of his ability to choose would be the strongest statement he could give about it being evil.

I had an online conversation once with someone who thought that the whole point of Frodo claiming the Ring was that he was finally throwing off the shackles of acting the way others wanted him to and becoming his own person :eek: :eek: ! -- N-o-o-o-o (to quote Sam ;) ).

(Apologies if that conversation was with anyone who's reading this - IIRC, we did get things straightened out. :z: )

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Well, if we're going to be posting Frodo pics...

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/161f3bc0.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/316204c0.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/229d0b60.jpg

Thanks, tg. The emphasis should be on the I, rather than the now, which was what I was doing as I read the sentences. It took me a few re-readings of the sentences to finally :rolleyes: figure that out. (Plus, I kept getting distracted by your pictures.) ;)

C4

Blue-eyed Frodo? Here's one. I appreciate...appropriate Faculty word usage...how the blue of his eyes match the blue of the elven pj's.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/RF10.jpg

Eandme said, I already have my copy. I was watching the extra material this morning and this might be spoilerish... The GSH DVD I recently bought from eBay did not have any special features except for a trailer. Which is another reason I'll buy the Warner release. EandMe, would this be the interview where he is sitting in a bar (?), has long long sleeves on and bruises on his face?

I did receive some items in the mail today for the Faculty Library. I'll edit this post soon with a new inventory list.

And, :D I reached 500! (((Faculty))) (((Harem))) (((Quote Game))) and all the rest of (((KD))). Thank you for allowing me to enjoy myself so!!

Hey, guys -- remember those rumors about Steve Martin's Picasso at the Lapin Agile? Well, it appears that they just might be true. (http://www.hollywood.com/movies/fulldetail/id/380769)

I have no idea whether to believe this website or not, but it lists it as "in development." *crosses fingers*

Just to let you all know, the library has grown the last few days. Thanks to Skater girl for Dayo/Child in the Night/Graham Norton/Heaven on Earth shows, Achila for the Homicide episode, and saile for The Witness. This is what we have at the moment. There are a couple PM's out there that I'm waiting for a reply to since a couple of items people have been waiting for. I will keep a list going though so if you would like to "borrow" an item, send me a PM anyways. On to the list:

IN
The Witness - DVD
North - DVD PAL Region (plays on a computer DVD drive)
Green Street Hooligans - DVD Region 1

OUT/OR PENDING OUT
Child in the Night - DVD
Dayo - DVD
2004/2005 Graham Norton Show - DVD
2005 Heaven on Earth Show - DVD
Homicide - DVD

There is also links to GSH movie clips, Elijah reading Me and My Cat, and The Witness for downloading. I have them too if you are interested.

Thanks for your time!

;) Of course, I watched Dayo this afternoon. Shelby read the 3 pages of translation notes that were included courtesy of Skater girl as the movie played. It was very easy to understand what was going on then. That was it...I've seen the complete EJW film library! I love my job!! :)

The GSH DVD I recently bought from eBay did not have any special features except for a trailer. Which is another reason I'll buy the Warner release. EandMe, would this be the interview where he is sitting in a bar (?), has long long sleeves on and bruises on his face?


Nope. This is the one with his *gasp* hair very dark and short, against a backround that looks like a set up livingroom. He is wearing a lightblue striped shirt and looks.............good.

And, :D I reached 500!
Congratulations to *Our One Librarian* to 500 posts! :) ;)
I'm so glad Skater girl made such a great translation of Day-O's dialogue. Elijah is so charming it that one, isn't he?

Shelbyshire and Tg, many thanks for the beautiful Frodos of late. I very much... appreciated :p them. :k (Tg, that sepia-toned one you posted lately is one of my all time favourites. The effect on his eyes is absolutely stunning! --- I've just read your new essay "Everything But My Pants!" Oh my, it's not funny at all... but very, very moving.... *sniffle*)
Also, thank you, Tg, for explaining the difference between "I choose" and "I do not choose". I think I got it (I hope).

Bunnie, exciting news that the Picasso project seems to be in the pipeline after all... I really do hope, we get to see this :z:.

~~~~~~~~~~
Special hugs to our Swedish Faculty members, Wood and Eandme and to all the others! :k

Re: US release of GSH on April 18 -- here's where my friend got her info. Still no listings on Amazon or any of the usual suspects so take this with a grain of salt --

http://movies.go.com/movies/movie?name=green-street-hooligans_2005&genre=drama&studio=TBA

Bunnie, exciting news that the Picasso project seems to be in the pipeline after all... I really do hope, we get to see this :z:.I'm hopeful, but I'm not holding my breath. I did some digging around and found a recent interview with Steve Martin where he says that "it's just going to remain a play for now," so, assuming that he wasn't hedging, this thing appears to still be in limbo. I'm not sure why it's cropping up again now, though...

I'm hopeful, but I'm not holding my breath. I did some digging around and found a recent interview with Steve Martin where he says that "it's just going to remain a play for now," so, assuming that he wasn't hedging, this thing appears to still be in limbo. I'm not sure why it's cropping up again now, though...
From what I know (that is, what someone said on IMDB), the script was rejected a couple of years ago.

IIRC, someone "in the know" said it had been rejected by one studio. That doesn't mean it couldn't be shopped around elsewhere (the "for now" is interesting), but of course the casting could change if someone else picked it up. I tried to find any kind of a date on the page Bunnie linked to, to try to see if the info's new or if it's been there for awhile, but didn't see anything.

My guess would be that if Steve Martin wants to follow up Shopgirl, which seemed to get pretty good critical reception if not much other notice, he'd do it first with The Pleasure of My Company. Elijah would be the best actor on the planet for the lead role if that book's made into a movie, but it might not be the best role on the planet for him to take - Jonathan is a gregarious, outgoing, normal guy compared to that one!

Is anybody brave enough to call Abandon Entertainment (http://www.abandonent.com/fra_contact.html) and find out if the project is still on? My minor phone phobia is not interested in taking it that far. :rolleyes:

I looked up the exact quote from Steve Martin, and having found it again, I have to say that I don't exactly even understand it. Maybe he was being funny? I'm not sure it comes across in print, if so:

Any film plans for 'Picasso?'

No. They keep reading – there was, but it's so complicated and it so boring. Right now it's just going to remain a play. I got it from MovieHole.net, btw, and the interview is from Feb. 2 of this year. Not very promising, I'd say. :(

Bun, maybe that's something you could ask Elijah at ELF?

Bun, maybe that's something you could ask Elijah at ELF?OOH. Not a half-bad idea, Achila. If I can remember in the, um, heat of the moment, and all. :o I did hear at one point that he'd actually auditioned for it, so he would surely know the project's status.

I'm pretty sure that the correct interpretation of Steve Martin's quote would be that they still don't have a script that they're happy with. By the time they finally do (if ever), the entire cast list may have changed.

OOH. Not a half-bad idea, Achila. If I can remember in the, um, heat of the moment, and all. :o I know exactly what you mean!

I'm pretty sure that the correct interpretation of Steve Martin's quote would be that they still don't have a script that they're happy with. By the time they finally do (if ever), the entire cast list may have changed.Yep -- and that would agree with the quote from the person on the IMDB board, so I'm inclined to believe that that's the real status of the project.

Anybody coming down to this years SXSW Music & Film Festival?
Elijah should be coming in for this one. He definitly loves SXSW.
He should be pushing Simian Records now and checking out the new bands to sign up. It is a great time to look him up during this two week period of fun and frevolities. :lol: Find him, buy him a beer and ask away about upcoming events... :k
http://2006.sxsw.com

First thought is that "They keep reading" refers to studios, and "it's so complicated and it's so boring" has been their response. -- Unless he meant it was too complicated and boring to explain in the interview.

Would hope that if another studio picks it up, they'd at least consider the cast that was originally planned, but they could have a different "vision" in mind, or Elijah's schedule might not fit with theirs, or who knows what could interfere. One positive is that if there was a feeling he looked too young at the time to play a twenties-something, that might change.

Of course, another option is that it could be his first stage role... :z: :cool: (although I'd probably never see it then).

--Bunnie, you could always write the question on your hand, in waterproof ink... ;)

ETA: txtac, I was checking out airfare :eek: -- do you get springbreakers down there or something??
ETA2: It was a couple of weeks ago that I checked, so I just peeked at expedia again and now it's up to :eek: :eek: :eek: ! I'm going to visit my brother in Sacramento next weekend instead, for less than one-sixth of the airfare, and, yes, I did the math! Yoicks! Must be one popular festival you've got going there (and there's only one seat left at :eek: :eek: :eek: - then it goes higher)!

To put it a bit in perspective, I could pay for roundtrip airfare and a hotel stay in Toronto with enough left over to buy a ticket to the LotR musical (not cheap) for the same price.

tgshaw wrote: I was checking out airfare -- do you get springbreakers down there or something??
Spring break for UT is March 11-19th.
SXSW has become a MAJOR International Music and Film Festival. All of the hotel and motel rooms in town (Austin is still considered a medium size town even though it is the State of Texas Capitol) are full. People are starting to rent out rooms in their homes... Is it a wonder that last year Elijah and bro Zach drove in from CA. in Zach's car? Come on down TG. I can put you up in the living room. It isn't rented out- yet... :haha: Don't worry about the dogs. They don't bite. I might, but they don't. :lol:

Elijah will "appear" in an episode of Robot Chicken this season --

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-familyguypaleyfestival,0,1619296.story?coll=zap-news-headlines

And there's a new Happy Feet trailer here:
http://www.canmag.com/movies.php?moviekey=happyfeet

Thanks for the offer, txtac, but over $900 just to get there and back is beyond my budget. The other option would be to buy a car that could actually make it from Nebraska to Texas, but that would be even more beyond! (My roundtrip to SanFran is $150, and a roundtrip to Toronto would be less than $300.)

Of course, we'll be waiting for your report. :cool:

Happy Birthday, Mariole!

C4

Happy Birthday, Mariole!


Hopefully none of your presents will start talking to you. ;)

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/0badd120.jpg


So here's one from a scene that I seem to remember you like --

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/2317b900.jpg

A very happy birthday to Mariole!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/LOTR%20photos%20-%20misc/frodoroom1a.jpg

:D :D :D

What? *innocent face*

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=filmNews&storyID=2006-03-08T021801Z_01_N07463946_RTRIDST_0_FILM-CANNES-DC.XML

Cannes in love with 'Paris'
Tue Mar 7, 2006 9:17 PM ET
By Charles Masters

PARIS (Hollywood Reporter) - "Paris, je t'aime" (Paris, I Love You), a collection of 20 love stories set in the French capital and directed by a host of internationally acclaimed filmmakers, will open the Cannes Film Festival sidebar Un Certain Regard on May 18, organizers said Tuesday.

The movie, which has been in production for several years, is told in five-minute segments each focusing on one of Paris' 20 administrative districts, or "arrondissements," then joined by transition elements.

Directors involved include Alfonso Cuaron, Gurinder Chadha, Gus Van Sant, Isabelle Coixet, Joel and Ethan Coen, Nobuhiro Suwa, Alexander Payne, Tom Tykwer, Walter Salles and Wes Craven. French participation includes Olivier Assayas, Gerard Depardieu and the live-action debut of animator Sylvain Chomet ("Les Triplettes de Belleville").

The cast includes Bob Hoskins, Elijah Wood, Emily Mortimer, Gena Rowlands, Juliette Binoche, Leonor Watling, Ludivine Sagnier, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Natalie Portman, Nick Nolte, Steve Buscemi and Willem Dafoe.

The 59th annual Cannes Film Festival begins May 17 with director Ron Howard's "The Da Vinci Code."

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MARIOLE!!!!

And in other news, here's a nice review of EII, along with the release announcement for next week --

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=20591

Some disappointment with the extras -- I'm sure we'll agree.

http://overthebrandywine.com/birthdays/Mariole06.jpg

:k

After reading Achila'a link, with the way Warner Independent treated EII, the dearth of any extra material shouldn't be surprising. :( If the film finds an audience, "meh"; if not, "phfft."

C- :mad: -4

Happy Birthday, Mariole!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/alyonir/frododarkportrait.bmp


:k :k

Following Achila's link to the new Happy Feet trailer, I read EW's bio on Yahoo and it stated he filmed Life Without Dick in 2001, but he is not listed in the cast on IMDB. The writer/director of this was Bix Skahill, the writer of Chain of Fools. Was his part deleted or is this not true?

C4

Apologies if we have already discussed this.

Whee, Faculty! It's been ages since I've been here. I'm sorry. With work being so very pressing, I had to cut back on my on-line activities even more severely, and this thread just moved a little too fast for me to keep up. Now my contract is over and I've had a little rest, so I hope to join in again now and then.

Thank you for my birthday greetings, everyone! Hugs to Ceefour, Tgshaw, BunnieBugs, Achila, Esmeraldabrandybuck, Alyon, and all other lurkers and Facultites! You're a lovely group. :k

Hopefully none of your presents will start talking to you.
Er, you know, I really wouldn't mind. Not when they look like that. *swoops them up and carries them off*

What? *innocent face*
Too true. You might notice how rumpled the covers are. :o It's your fault, you know. After posting that pict... that pic... *gulps* that picture in your LJ yesterday....

*gasp* Ezzie, what a beautiful cake! I'd just run short, so thank you. :)

Thanks for the report, Txtac. I've only seen one pic from "Paris, je t'aime" but it looked great!

Disappointing news about the EII DVD. Not surprising, but still. Thank goodness we know there will be more movies.

C4, IIRC Tg knows more about this than I do, but I believe that Life Without Dick item was a long-time goof that has never been corrected.

Ah, it's good to see you all again. Have fun, and thanks again! :)

Following Achila's link to the new Happy Feet trailer, I read EW's bio on Yahoo and it stated he filmed Life Without Dick in 2001, but he is not listed in the cast on IMDB. The writer/director of this was Bix Skahill, the writer of Chain of Fools. Was his part deleted or is this not true?I used to own Life Without Dick -- I bought it thinking Lij was in it but he wasn't, and he wasn't listed in the credits either. So I don't know what his connection to this film was, but I can assure you that he ultimately wasn't in it.

I used to own Life Without Dick -- I bought it thinking Lij was in it but he wasn't, and he wasn't listed in the credits either. So I don't know what his connection to this film was, but I can assure you that he ultimately wasn't in it.
Yes, there's someone at amazon.com, bless her little heart :rolleyes: , who posts lists of Elijah Wood movies and sometimes gets a dud. Life with Dick was one of them; I imagine she got it from somewhere, maybe Yahoo, as she said on the list that she didn't know anything about it. I didn't realize it had the same writer/director as Chain of Fools; that could very easily start a rumor, as in "Elijah Wood is doing a movie with...", especially since titles change. The timing would be about right for the two to be confused.

But, as Achila pointed out, Life with Dick is at least a real movie. That same Lij fan at amazon.com also posted Paradox as an Elijah Wood movie; what it was, was the working title for Back to the Future II.

She wasn't the one who came up with The Prisoner of Zenda, though. Don't where that one popped up from. It's in my pile of stuff to go to Good Will, with a minor pang of loss, as the picture of the heroine on the cover of the DVD looks strikingly like Frolijah in a dress - maybe that's where the rumor came from. :p (She doesn't look like Elijah - The Wig is a necessity.) In fact, it could almost be used as a Froshadowing, facial expression and all.

She wasn't the one who came up with The Prisoner of Zenda, though. Don't where that one popped up from. It's in my pile of stuff to go to Good Will, with a minor pang of loss, as the picture of the heroine on the cover of the DVD looks strikingly like Frolijah in a dress - maybe that's where the rumor came from. :p (She doesn't look like Elijah - The Wig is a necessity.) In fact, it could almost be used as a Froshadowing, facial expression and all. I should send you my copy too -- at least I only bought it for a $0.01. And Life Without Dick wasn't a terrible movie, it just didn't have Elijah in it. :D

Frolijah in a dress....omg, TG, you're right! :lol:

To C4: *points up* I rest my case. :)

*bows to Tg's encyclopedic knowledge * wanders off to Google this Prisoner of Zenda pic* :D

tg! :lol:

In fact, the picture on the PoZ DVD looks remarkably like the picture Alyon posted for Mariole's birthday. (If someone with more computer skills than I could post them side-by-side...)

C4

In fact, the picture on the PoZ DVD looks remarkably like the picture Alyon posted for Mariole's birthday. (If someone with more computer skills than I could post them side-by-side...)
Your wish is my command, C4 :) ---

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Pris_Zenda_dvd.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/alyonir/frododarkportrait.bmp


Yup, you have quite an eye ;)!

Thank you, Whiteling! :k

C-Someday I will learn how to use this machine!-4

According to a posting on the Main Page at TORN, EW is featured in a TV commercial in the UK for Intel Centrino. Have any of our UK Faculty members seen this?

C4

According to a posting on the Main Page at TORN, EW is featured in a TV commercial in the UK for Intel Centrino. Have any of our UK Faculty members seen this?YES. Though I can't imagine what possessed him to do a commercial, of all things (perhaps a really big truck filled with money? :D ), I have to say that he's utterly adorable in it.

Sorry I didn't give the heads up over here when I first heard about it! Here is the photo from the Intel website:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah%202/intel_ad_flipped.jpg

I've been scouring the net for the commercial ever since I heard about it (it was supposed to be available on Yahoo and AOL this week), but it has been showing on several TV channels: E!, ESPN, Animal Planet, Discovery, TLC, both Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network (but only at night), and possibly MTV. :)

I thought I posted this here ealier. Anyhow trying again.

I just got notification from Amazon that EII has shipped to me!

And... I've got Elijah's Intel ad captured on my TiVo. As soon as my darling longsuffering husband gets home I'll consult him about getting it available for everyone else to see. Ehhh, maybe I'll let him eat dinner first!

Haven't been around much lately. Hi to everyone. Happy B'day to Mariole a bit belatedly.

h!

BunnieBugs said:Though I can't imagine what possessed him to do a commercial, of all things (perhaps a really big truck filled with money? :D ),

Or a really big truck filled with electronic gadgets and gizmos!

Honeyelf, let Mr. Honeyelf have dinner. But no dessert until there are pictures!

C4

Thanks for the good wishes, Honeyelf! It's good to see you. :k

Also thanking BunnieBugs again, because I really like that cute commercial. ;)

According to a posting on the Main Page at TORN, EW is featured in a TV commercial in the UK for Intel Centrino.
(...)
I've been scouring the net for the commercial ever since I heard about it (it was supposed to be available on Yahoo and AOL this week), but it has been showing on several TV channels: E!, ESPN, Animal Planet, Discovery, TLC, both Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network (but only at night), and possibly MTV.
Bunnie, if you ever do see this commercial, please give us the gist of what happens in it. I can't imagine what the text or scenario could be. EW is perched on the knee of an airline passenger, sort of, but he could have been placed on her knee digitally they look so unconnected, spacially or relationally. I am intrigued.

P.S. I am happy to see him looking far less wasted-away, the way he did in photos appearing in here a few months ago. Perhaps this commercial was shot before the Big Starve?

~ Mechtild

Bunnie, if you ever do see this commercial, please give us the gist of what happens in it. I can't imagine what the text or scenario could be. EW is perched on the knee of an airline passenger, sort of, but he could have been placed on her knee digitally they look so unconnected, spacially or relationally. I am intrigued. Well, I've only seen it once, and my brain was squeeing pretty loudly, but let's see what I can do...

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It begins with a scan of the airplane compartment and centers in on this woman. Something (flight attendant?) passes in front of the camera, and voila! There is Elwood sitting on her lap (and, yes, in spite of the appearance of this photo, he really is in her lap in the commercial). I'm sure I'm missing some dialog, but here's the basics. The parentheses are stricty my own commentary:

EW: This is a long flight.
Her: (I really have no idea what she says here. Heh) Yes.
EW: Would you like something to do?
Her: (NO IDEA. She doesn't really matter, does she?) Yes, I would.
EW: Do you like movies?
Her: I like your movies. (Okay, that almost makes me like her.)
EW: (The product plug was included here, but, I mean... product? What product? What do you mean Elijah's not the product!) You can watch something completely different from the rest of these people.
Her: That sounds great. (Or SOMETHING. I mean, who's really paying attention to her?)
EW: We need popcorn. (To flight attendant) Could we get some popcorn here?

Flight attendant passes by and he's gone again, showing us the laptop computer on her lap instead.
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The tag-line is: Entertainment comes to life in your lap.

...

OH, YES, PLEASE. Er... I mean.. *cough* Yeah.

And really, my totally unbiased opinion is that he's unbelievably charming and adorable. ...WHAT? I mean -- who wouldn't fall in love with this guy while watching this thing? So cute. :)

P.S. I am happy to see him looking far less wasted-away, the way he did in photos appearing in here a few months ago. Perhaps this commercial was shot before the Big Starve?
Of course, it's impossible to tell, with that frilly shirt. Can't tell if there's a tummy under there, or not. But he's been slim for quite awhile, now! I remember first noticing around the time that Green Street opened in Edinburgh, and then photos from ELF confirmed that he had lost most of his body fat. His hair is quite long in this, as it was at ORC in late January this year, so it could have been done any time in the 3-4 months prior to that, I'd say. Just speculation, of course. ;)

If you wanna see 'Lijah's intel ad for yourself just CLICK HERE (http://youtube.com/watch?v=GWuYsETQYzk)

Hope that's OK to do, TG? If not just poke me and I'll fix it.

Also, I don't know why you can't save it, or how to fix it so that you can. If anybody has any wisdom??? :confused:

Correction: We're foregoing the Glick interview, no need to thank me :rolleyes: Instead we'ver got that Arizona talk show appearance up on the greybook site. It's in two parts; the first is just an interview from the time that EII came out. The second is a bit with a zookeeper and his cute little critters, and so of course his 'Lijness begged to stay and play with said cute little critters. Much cuteness ensues (if, that is, you can ignore that woman to the right of the screen! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ) Enjoy it!

ETAA: We've put the Intel ad up there too, so now you can save the file, which you couldn't do from YouTube. :)

honey!

Oh, thanks so much, Honey and Bunnie (so cute when said sequentially!).

First I watched the Elijah ad a few times (five?). Then I watched the other Intel "Mobile Entertainment Technology in your laptop" ads on your linked page, which very good. Watching them helped me to see the one with EW in context. They showed celebrities as actors, musicians and gamers performing whatever was supposed to be their specialty while sitting in people's laps, all making the point that what they did could be made immediate and accessibile by using the product (Intel laptops).

I have to say that only watching the EW one made what might be the source of the entertainment more vague. I'll admit I laughed out loud to hear the voice-over announce,

With the new Intel Centrino duo mobile technology in your laptop, your digital entertainment comes to life.
"My digital entertainment...."

Go ahead, Intel, make me spew the morning coffee.


As far as thinness goes, I wasn't doing a tummy check, Bunnie. But his legs (the most prominent body part in the fetching cap from the video you posted above), looked quite strong, not stick-like. This made me happy. My maternal side doesn't like to see him looking unhealthy. :)

~ Mechtild

Clips of EW playing with cute, wild animals?! :D Where may I find that...may I have a link?

Lembas :)

Thanks Bunnie :k for the photo and dialogue. Awesome. And Honey :k and hubby thanks for the link. Downloading as we speak.
Can't help but notice that the video is very cute and charming while the photo/s I've seen are ...well.......OH MY! :D :D .....provocative . Thanks! :D :D

Mariole a belated Happy Birthday. I have heard fun stories of you from Ezzie, Ariel and Hewene. All Good of course.

txtac hoping for reports from SXSW. It sounds like a Great Happening - musically. And just the kind of happening that would attract TOL. Only wish I could make it one year.
saile

p.s. Oh I love that on the AtoZ interview he says he would have loved to act with Audrey Hepburn. So classy......Audrey Hepburn and his comment. Honey unzipped my computer did not recognize these files as video files (contankerous computer :eek: ), but they did play with windows media player.

Possible new entry for tg's Glossary:

laptop dancing=EW's Intel Centrino commercial

So sorry. I'll leave now.

But did she get her popcorn? :confused: Could this give "airline food" a whole new definition?

And has The One Apple User abdicated? First the X-Box ad, now this? Or does Apple use Intel Centrinos?

"I like your movies": What a lovely person. Of course, she was paid to say that. This woman was paid to have Elijah Wood sit on her lap. Get your mind around that one. And she's probably getting royalties... each time you see that ad...

Career-wise and all, just the fact that ad was made is great - it does mean they expect people to know who he is, at least within their demographic. And maybe the cute young woman saying she likes his movies will sell a few DVDs :) .

Honey - As I understand it, linking's fine unless the material is an "R" rating or beyond (why linking to LJ's isn't allowed - too easy to jump from one to another, and some do have "R"-rated material - from what I hear ;) ).

I've had only one cup of coffee, which obviously hasn't taken effect yet, so I haven't decided if Sheryl's birthday present will be one that fits here or in the Cathedral, and I may not have something suitable until I get home from work. But have a great day, Sheryl! :k

Thanks for posting that DVD cover, Whiteling - I couldn't figure out how to do it, either. :rolleyes: But, yes, C4 - that Froshadowing is just what I was picturing :cool: . Mariole, if that pic suffices, you can stop googling - it's absolutely the only thing about this DVD that has any kind of connection to EJW :p . The same character doesn't even look like him within the movie (IMHO), although she's quite fetching. As I understand from one of the reviews that lamented how badly the original story had been botched, in the book both look-alike guys are in love with her (I don't know how it works out, I'm afraid). Even in her watered-down animated version I could understand that, in not just looks but personality and guts. On the DVD they give the real prince a sweet but empty-headed fiance, so I guess the commoner ends up with the heroine, although we don't really find out the end of that story (the cover goes farther than the movie in that respect, too).

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ETA: Definitely not enough coffee. When I posted, I didn't even see the messages at the top of the new page and was responding to just the ones on the old page. C4 (whose name in my present state I keep typing C$) - with that addition of "top" I may be able to work it in. :p

Thank you, Saile! :k

Yes, Tg, I enjoyed Whiteling's skill in the DVD cover/photo comparison. Delightful!

(why linking to LJ's isn't allowed - too easy to jump from one to another, and some do have "R"-rated material - from what I hear ).
R-rated? Triple X with smoke curls, I should say. :eek: LJ tends to be rather... unrestrained.

Mechtild: digital entertainment!!! :D :p You slay me!

Been away for a few days, out of computer range, but in my hotel last night I saw the Intel ad! On the Daily Show (comedy central). So they are really going for a specific demographic with that campaign: young, hip, computer savvy, and probably male. (So what was I doing watching the Daily Show, since I am none of those things? :rolleyes: )

The thing stopped me in my tracks! I couldn't believe my ears or eyes, because I wasn't aware that this was out there. A very lovely surprise.
I have seen at least one other ad in this same campaign: with some NASCAR race driver whose name I didn't know. That is further evidence to me that the campaign is targeting guys. Does the ad even mention his name?

And hey, he can sit in my lap whenever he wants!

Happy birthday to Mariole (late, as usual...)

So they are really going for a specific demographic with that campaign: young, hip, computer savvy, and probably male. (So what was I doing watching the Daily Show, since I am none of those things? :rolleyes: )

Does the ad even mention his name?

Male? You think so? It's also showing on E!, Discovery, TLC, Animal Planet, Nickelodeon (Nick at Nite), maybe MTV(?) and more that I'm forgetting... I can't help but think that this particular ad is aimed at geeks of the female persuasion. And I'm pretty that Jon Stewart has a large female following, so that would make sense for it to air during the Daily Show.

I'm glad that it's getting a lot of airplay, though, and on a fairly broad range of channels, as well. And, no, it never, ever mentions his name or the name of any of his films. So, we're just expected to know who he is. :cool:

Possible new entry for tg's Glossary:

laptop dancing=EW's Intel Centrino commercial

:lol: Come back, Ceefour! I, for one, am all for it ;).


Oh man, that is a cute commercial :k. I SO hope this one with Elijah will appear here, too. There might be a slight chance, as just today I saw the Centrino duo ad in a magazine, with some Formula 1 guy I've never seen in my life before. :o Peaceweaver. could we mean the same guy? You said:
with some NASCAR race driver whose name I didn't know
And no, the ads don't mention names (at least not here).

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But now...

Happy Birthday, Sheryl!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/hb.gif
Have a great day! :k

How about with something truly classical for a gift? :D
(I mean, 500 years ago commercials like that one from Intel had possibly been developed by people like Leonardo da Vinci - and perhaps he would have liked to have *him* in his lap??

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/Frodomanips/Frodalisa.jpg

°°°Froda Lisa°°°

Honey - Thank you, thank you, thank you for Elijah's Intel commercial. :) Apparently it's showing here in the UK, but I haven't caught it on TV yet.

Three of our favourite hobbits would like to say:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SHERYL!

They're HERE (http://www.imag.us/x/blossom/Sheryl.gif) - looks like they're in the mood for a party!

No doubt Sam is in the kitchen, rustling up some tasty party snacks.

Hope you're enjoying your special day. :)

Whiteling - Froda Lisa!!! :) That enigmatic smile is not so very different from the original.

How did I miss that it's

Sheryl's

birthday??

Happy Birthday!!!

What a great "gif" Blossom! Can't help smiling when watching it!!

Of course, I've been smiling ever since watching the EJW laptop dance (I'll vote for your definition, C4). Thank you, Honey, for the download. We do not watch televsion in our house, only movies. Which isn't all that bad since most everything, including this Elijah bit, ends up on the internet for viewing and/or downloading.

I also would like to wish Sheryl a ...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

ETA this early commercial pic. I don't have one from the Lays Potato Chips. *must correct that problem* ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/PH2.jpg

Happy Birthday, shilohmm!

While looking at The One Commercial (once or twice...an hour...all day), I kept wishing EW could find a good romantic comedy script, something with class. He does flirtatious quite well.

How come all I get on airplanes is sick? :p

C4

*tiptoes in*


Happy Birthday, Sheryl!

SandCastles :)


*tiptoes out*

Happy Birthday, Sheryl!

And thanks to Bunnie and Honey (awww...rhymes) for their efforts on behalf of all of us with the Intel commercial. Mmm...with company like that, I'd never get off the plane.

And the big news of the day is that the Weinstein Brothers picked up ALL US distribution on Bobby. So they obviously seem to think it's worth betting the farm on. And that also means WE WILL GET TO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!

:k Harvey Weinstein

Happy Birthday Sheryl!

Hope you don't mind just a bit of elven beauty :k .

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/2e14b5e0.jpg

And Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone who's Irish and everyone who wishes they were, and everyone who's glad they're not :confused: . As a member of the "great mongrel race" (as Hitler called us :haha: ), I'm just a tad more Irish than I am anything else so I figure I can celebrate legitimately. (German's a close second in my makeup, with a few more bringing up the rear.)

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C4 - I totally agree about the romantic comedy :cool: !

Achila - Great news about Bobby!

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I'm going to be gone from now until sometime Tuesday - to visit two brothers in California (ten years since I'd last been on a plane, now twice in less than six months! :eek: ). Narya will be checking in here, and even BFM has offered to keep an eye on you, so behave! :z:

*** HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHERYL! ***

Have a great trip TG and keep a look out for digital entertainment on that flight... ;)

I havent seen that ad on TV yet either although I saw something similar with a guitarist in someones lap. At last - something to make me look forward to the ad breaks ! :D

I've seen the online version- thanks to Honeyelf and Bunny. :k

Gute Reise, TG!

Has anyone ever had a post disappear from the boards on them? :confused: I made a post last night, right after Sandcastles' and this morning it's gone! How very weird.

Oh, well. Mostly I was just letting everyone know about the distribution deal for Bobby and that they're looking for a fall release.

But, more importantly, Happy Birthday, Sheryl! Hope you had a lovely day!

That's only happened to me once, Bunnie, but it turned out to be something I messed up, when it did. :rolleyes:

Great news about the release of Bobby!

P.S. Howdy, Sandcastles! :)

~ Mechtild

I finally saw the Intel commercial, thanks to the kindness of strangers who post things on the web. :k It was very cute! PG-rated, as opposed to the printed ad, which was vying for R or better, or at least trying for it. :p

"great mongrel race" --? :eek: How dare he! *Grr, snarl, yap!*

I'm a real mongrel, all right. French, German, Irish, and a smidge of Indian. :)

Happy Birthday, Sheryl!

Thanks for the good wishes, Peaceweaver! Nice to see you, SandCastles!

Oh, and they finally mentioned who is playing Elijah's brother -- Kip Pardue. Here's his IMDB page -- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0661164/

Yes Bunnie I saw your post and link about the distribution of Bobby. My post followed and disappeared too. :confused: :confused:

So to repeat to Sheryl

Happy Birthday
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/EII6.jpg

saile

p.s Good to see you here Sandcastles. :k

Happy Birthday, Sheryl! :k :k :k

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/Elijah20a.jpg

(once or twice...an hour...all day)
:lol: :lol:

Edit: sorry so big the first time! :o

Thanks for the birthday wishes, guys. :)

I'm a mongrel as well - Irish, English, Scottish, Welsh, German, a smidgen Iroquois, probably a few dashes of other stuff... But on St. Patrick's, everyone wears green. ;) You gotta, or you'll get pinched! :eek:

Happy Saint Patrick's Day!

Not so grand as my gifts, but wanted to see Elijah wearing green today and couldn't find one of him in that green jacket...

http://www.prensa.com/Entretenimiento/Farandula/2005/09/16/imagenes/Elijah-4.jpg

Sheryl

Here you go, Sheryl!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/aquila0212/2094511.jpg

Happy Birthday, Bohemian!

Happy Birthday Bohemian!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/000by68z.jpg

Oops! A little large...hope that's okay with you! :)

Happy Birthday, Bohemian!

I have a special gift for you and the Faculty: a pic that is rumored to be from Bobby. I can't decide if I think it is, or not, but it certainly might be. In any case, it's new! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/bunniebugs/Elijah%202/ElijahinBobby.jpg

Thanks, guys =) Makes my little lurker heart all warm and fuzzy. Shelbyshire, that picture is just fine and BunnieBugs, nice new picture. And thanks ceefour too

Beautiful pics, everyone. Shelbyshire, I especially like the black and white one you posted.

Thanks for the new picture, Bunnie. :) That's not the One CTJ he's wearing, is it? No, it looks too new - not quite worn enough. And oh, the expression on his face! In character, I wonder?

HAPPPY BIRTHDAY, BOHEMIAN!

HERE'S YOUR BIRTHDAY GIFT (http://www.imag.us/x/blossom/Bohemian.gif)

Enjoy your day. :)

That's not the One CTJ he's wearing, is it? No, it looks too new - not quite worn enough. And oh, the expression on his face! In character, I wonder?No, it's not the CTJ. And his expression is most un-Elijah-like, so probably in character. :)

Beautiful GIF, as always, Blossom!

Happy Birthday, Bohemian! :k :k :k

http://static.flickr.com/51/114064213_e3af18877b_b.jpg

Bunnie, I like that new pic whether it's from Bobby or not. He looks older there, doesn't he?
honey!

Sorry I'm late with the Birthday greetings.
Happy birthday Shilohmm and Bohemian


:) Wonderful pictures!!

OK -- THIS is interesting. In The New York Daily News, there is an article about an actress/model named Michelle DiBenedetti. It says about her:

"DiBenedetti's acting career is now showing signs of taking off. On the day that a Daily News reporter and photographer attended her fitting, she snagged a role in an Elijah Wood movie, "Day Zero." And on Saturday nights, she stays up late to star as Inga the Swedish Exchange Student in the Off-Broadway show, "The Awesome 80s Prom.""

I went and looked up Day Zero on IMDB and there's little or no information but it sounds like it could have potential:

Plot Summary for
Day Zero (2006)
The military draft is back. Three best friends are drafted and given 30 days to report for duty. In that time they're forced to confront everything they believe about courage, duty, love, friendship and honor. If called to serve, what would you do?

Sorry that these wishes are a little late for both of you...

A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO SHILOHMM AND BOHEMIAN !!

Here is a little Elijah-goodness to make up for it :-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/wendylady1/Elijah/EJW/EJW1.jpg

Achila,
Oh FAB !!! A new movie for our One Lad !!
What an interesting premise for a movie, and one that perhaps will call for lots of Elijah-emoting...something that we all know he excels at !!

I have a friend who is a member of our Territorial Army, here in Britain, ( which is a totally Voluntary Force, supposed to be like a Home Guard, in case of invasion, but, realistically, is like a spare time-type Hobby Army )...well, he has just, unexpectedly, been called up to serve in Afghanistan, :eek: for eight months, along with numerous other T.A. people, to give our own troops a break...so I can well imagine what this must be like...it's a very definite possibilty these days, apparently !! He has only just got married too, and so his new wife is slightly less than enthusiastic about this, as you can imagine !! :(

Maybe, this will be a good leading role for Elijah, one he can really get his teeth into...

We shall all be watching the movie news with expectation about this one...

IMDB lists this as "filming." Now? Where? (Achila, forget about work this week and start investigating!)

C4

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOHEMIAN!

Achila, thanks for that movie tip. That does sound very interesting, and something I'd want to see. Yay!

LW, we had the same situation as your friend here in the States. IIRC 2/3 of the National Guard that was supposed to be stationed in Louisiana, including their heavy equipment such as water-capable vehicles, were sent to Iraq. Then when Hurricane Katrina hit, we didn't have those resources in place to help rescue people from New Orleans. It was a terrible snafu. Because of new federal regulations, official rescue units couldn't go into the area unless they were already government approved, so other states with units ready to go were told to wait. It was just horrendous. So you had those poor people in Iraq watching the people they'd signed up to serve... suffer and die.

My friend's son really wants to become a pilot; his college choices are based on that. There are many enticing things about working in the military, or at least I can understand his point of view. But service can depend on so many things, many of them not under your control. I remember asking myself the question as a teen whether I would sign up to fight for my country if we were threatened. I think people are asking the question again, and this "Day Zero" movie might provide a provocative examination of that.

Let's be careful not to get too excited over this yet -- let's wait to hear if it's real first! :z:

ETA -- AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! IT'S REAL IT'S REAL IT'S REAL....Look what I just found on Craig's List --

"Day Zero, a feature film starring Elijah Wood, Jennifer Goodwin, Chris Klein needs a brownstone apt in Brooklyn Heights/Wburg for a one day shoot during the second or third week of March. ..."

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Intriguing news you bring us, Achila! I looked up the director of Day Zero, Bryan Dunnar Cole. Seems this may be his first time directing, though he's editted previously. I'd sure like to see Elijah work with a more established director soon!

Nick Gomez is directing The Passenger, correct? He's a television director. He directed some of the episodes of Oz, an interesting HBO series set inside a prison. It's very raw, but actually quite good, and both "Michael" and "Mr. Ecco" of LOST appear in it. And several "Homicide: Life on the Street" episodes are to Mr. Gomez' credit as well, though not the one we all know. But again, a television director. Though he does have lots of experience doing that.

Interesting....

honey!

Yep, Nick Gomez. Actually, for Bryan Dunnar Cole, there's another film listed -- called Another Road Home. The IMDB has a really high rating for it -- 8.6. But -- oh yes -- you're right -- he didn't direct this one.

I think Bryan Dunnar Cole might be a typo in IMDB. If you google on "Another Road Home", it comes up with a Bryan Gunnar Cole being the editor/co-writer. He seems to have at least directed documentaries before.

I think this film sounds like it's going to be a really micro budget indie film and possibly only viewable on the festival circuit.

I think this film sounds like it's going to be a really micro budget indie film and possibly only viewable on the festival circuit.
ACK. Not again! :rolleyes:

Whoopsie, I'm late in saying
Happy belated birthday, Bohemian! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/BWsuit_Bohem.jpg

Elijah is singing Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody just for you. ;)



Fascinating news on Day Zero, Achila! But - a micro budget indie film, again? Uh-oh....

Fascinating news on Day Zero, Achila! But - a micro budget indie film, again? Uh-oh....Well, we don't know anything about the budget, although it IS a first-time director. We'll have to wait and see what happens with it -- if it does well at a festival like Sundance, it could have a pretty good opening.

Thanks again for the birthday wishes, everyone =)

I hope this Day Zero is true and that it is a wide release. Then I might actually get to see it. I still haven't seen GHS or EII. They probably won't come on DVD/VHS here either..like most movies. I hate the fact that they think only blockbusters are woth anything.. :mad:

Am I Late? Happy Birthday Bohemian
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/billiep/elijahred.jpg

I still haven't seen GHS or EII. They probably won't come on DVD/VHS here either..like most movies. I hate the fact that they think only blockbusters are woth anything

Well GSH and EII aren't out here as yet (usa) but when they are they possibly could be mailed to you. Do you have access to vhs/dvd and if so what region? PAL or NTFS?

saile

Happy Birthday, Bohemian! :)


Plot Summary for Day Zero (2006)

The military draft is back. Three best friends are drafted and given 30 days to report for duty. In that time they're forced to confront everything they believe about courage, duty, love, friendship and honor. If called to serve, what would you do?
Great news, Achila. Sounds like something that could show him off well, if it's any good. He's great in buddy movies which deal with courage, duty, love, friendship and honor. And enchanted Rings.

Honey, your B & W pic for Bohemian was great to see. Not only is it just plain cute, I had always been curious to see the photo that inspired Whiteling's superb drawing of EW.

~ Mechtild

Hey, I just picked this up on Not Alone's LJ. She said it was OK to post it here. She figured Bunnie probably already had done so. But I don't remember seeing this here. Forgive me, Bunnie, if you already posted this.

(It certainly made MY eyes bug out -- but, well, no surprises there ;). )


Not many details available I'm afraid - just this quote from a Lindsay Lohan interview:

Cosmo: You had your first love scene in BOBBY, with
Elijah Wood. Was that difficult to shoot?

Lindsay Lohan: No, it was great. He’s so nice, and it
was tastefully done. There was no nudity. There were
sheets over me, but I [still] didn’t wear a bra
because I hate it when actresses do that in movies. No
one would do that in real life."
Well! As a loud detractor of EW's love scenes [so-called] in All I Want, I am looking forward to seeing him acquit himself well in Bobby. That's right, I am willing to give him another chance. In fact, I intend to bring my binoculars. I have high hopes EW will have improved in this area, having had a few years of practice at this sort of thing since then. Magazines and chocolate will take an actor only so far.

Has anyone heard anything to deny such a scene in Bobby?

~ Mechtild

I would just like to say that you guys here at The Faculty (and The Harem, too! :D) are all so very friendly and generous. Thank you!

:k

Lembas :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Lembas_Junkie/MiniFrodoPainting.jpg

In fact, I intend to bring my binoculars. I have high hopes EW will have improved in this area, having had a few years of practice at this sort of thing since then. Mechtild, :lol: Can I tag along? That, I would love to see! Research of the highest degree!!

Of course, ;) , the details one might see with that magnification would be quite interesting indeed. Details that is in the subtle art of.....of......eyebrow acting, sternocla..a..as...ahhh! help me out here folks!!!

Actually, Shelbyshire, I planned to be watching extra-closely for nostril flare.

~ Mechtild

:cool:

HI ALL !!!!!!!!! :k :k :k

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ALL THAT I MISSED !!!! :k :k :k :k

And thank you all for all pictures i have now start to rebuilled my photo album !!!!

and i am started to plan my trip to ringcon in germany !!! :k :k :k

yes finnaly iam going to see mr. beutiful !!! :p

love you all /wood

*Great* news, Wood!! :k I'm so happy for you! I so hope that I'll able to go to RingCon with you... :z:

Actually, Shelbyshire, I planned to be watching extra-closely for nostril flare.
:lol: *That* is a field of research, Mechtild, that not yet has been completely evaluated. It is very likely that you will discover many new specifications and it would be appreciated if you could write an abstract on Elijah's nostril flair. ;)

Well GSH and EII aren't out here as yet (usa) but when they are they possibly could be mailed to you. Do you have access to vhs/dvd and if so what region? PAL or NTFS?

saile

I don't know about that, but I can see region 2 and 5 DVD's.

Nice discussion on Bobby :lol:

Shelbyshire, it's s t e r n o c l e i d o m a s t o i d. :D

C4

sternocla..a..as...ahhh! help me out here folks!!!
Shelbyshire, it's s t e r n o c l e i d o m a s t o i d. :D

Yeah, I'll be looking out for that, too. Surely he'll have to throw his head back in ecstasy a couple of times. (With flair, of course, Whiteling.)

I keep re-reading L. Lohan's remarks and thinking I'd like to get back into acting.

~ Mechtild

P.S. I know, I know, wrong thread. But, seriously, if EW can come across as a plausible lover of anyone (other than the Ring), it can only be good for his career and greatly enhance his casting opportunities.


:)

A bit off topic, but *tiptoes in*

I've been enjoying my new DVD set of Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. I suddenly decided I had to know how old these kids are, now that they're filming the 5th movie where they're supposed to be 15 (answers: Dan 16/17, Emma 15/16, Rupert 17/18).

Anyway, I saw this headline when I clicked on the birthday page. You might have seen it already, but I thought it was really cute:


Potter star mobbed by Elijah fans
Date: 28th November 2005

Daniel Radcliffe has revealed that Australian fans think he is Lord of the Rings hero Elijah Wood.

Daniel, who plays Harry Potter, said: "So often people shout out, 'Hey Frodo!' as they think I'm Elijah - who frankly is a very good-looking guy so I take it as a compliment.

"I admit when a couple of people have put autograph books under my nose I've signed them, 'Much love Elijah Wood'. It would be a bit deflating for me if I told the truth and they said, 'Don't bother signing it then'."

Daniel is currently in Australia filming December Boys. He plays an orphan fighting for his adoptive parents' attention in the film reports The Sun.


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So, people think Elijah is Tobey and Daniel is Elijah. I don't know why, but I really enjoy this. Cheers. :p :D

ETA: Aw, I'm with Dan on this one. I think it would be hard for a 16-yr-old to tell whoever it is that they are totally wrong. If the fan is too silly to realize that 1) Daniel Radcliffe is not Elijah Wood and 2) Elijah made those movies 7 years ago and is no longer 17, I'm for letting Dan escape as gracefully as possible. A silly question deserves a silly answer, in my book! :k to all of them-- Dan, Elijah, and Tobey.

And simil arly I really enjoyed this: Slap of the Day (http://movies.go.com/slapoftheday?columnid=746723)

TODAY'S SLAP: Daniel Radcliffe

WHY I WILL SLAP YOU: Some deranged fans off their meds (or perhaps needing glasses) have apparently mistaken you for Elijah Wood. Your reaction — "I take it as a compliment" — may be loaded with aplomb, but it doesn't quite cut it. The fact that you don't even bother to disabuse them of their misconceptions chaps my hide: "I admit when a couple of people have put autograph books under my nose, I've signed them, 'Much love, Elijah Wood.'" Not cool, Dan — and doubly uncool when you're claiming to be mega-cool Elijah. Let's be realistic; by your age, Elijah had been in The Ice Storm, Radio Flyer and hell, even a Back to the Future flick. You've done … Potter. That's it. Nothing more of note. You've got no right to feign Frodo.

WHAT I WILL SLAP YOU WITH: All the autograph books you've defiled with your filthy, filthy lies.

HOW HARD I WILL SLAP YOU: So hard that you'll look more like Gollum.

OK, maybe a little mean spirited, but I really liked the "mega-cool" part, and that acknoledgement that Elijah has <i>earned</i> his reputation.

My copy of EII came yesterday. I've seen the "additional scenes" twice now. They are both cute and cringe inducing at times, and the movie certainly didn't loose anything by being them being cut.

honey!

I really liked the "mega-cool" part, and that acknoledgement that Elijah has earned his reputation.
honey!

Yeah I really liked that too.! Thanks. :k
saile

Whoa - Have only had time so far to quickly scan through the thread, but a lot of news! And pics!

Just to say - To those who lost posts, that seems to have been happening in other parts of KD around the same time it was happening here, and no one knows why. It was suggested to Moggy that he check with his webhost. If a hacker did get access, it was an extremely gentle hacker.

Only addition I'll make before I run off to work (since I'll probably forget it otherwise), there was a short piece in Northwest Airline's inflight magazine on The Goblet of Fire because it's being shown on some of their international flights. Seems that during the filming of that movie, DR worked underwater for 40 hours resulting in two ear infections and a drowning scare, and he also fell 30-40 feet during some of the wirework. So if he still wants to make a movie with TOL, at least he's getting into training.

No other inflight entertainment, alas ;) . And not even a glimpse of the Intel commercial, which I was kind of hoping for since I'd have the chance to see a bit of cable TV at my brother's.

Happy belated birthday to Bohemian!

And, Whiteling, I do hope you can make it to ringcon. I'm a little worried about wood laying eyes on Mr. Beautiful for the first time without someone there to restrain her (well, restrain her just a bit) ;) .

More later. :k

Welcome back, Tg! :)


Only addition I'll make before I run off to work (since I'll probably forget it otherwise), there was a short piece in Northwest Airline's inflight magazine on The Goblet of Fire because it's being shown on some of their international flights. Seems that during the filming of that movie, DR worked underwater for 40 hours resulting in two ear infections and a drowning scare, and he also fell 30-40 feet during some of the wirework. So if he still wants to make a movie with TOL, at least he's getting into training.
I've read this too. Yes, DR seems to work very hard in his role as Harry Potter. From an MTV article I recall that he also prepared for "Order of the Phoenix" by meeting with a bereavement counselor so he could understand survivor's guilt, since his two main relationships in this film — with his godfather Sirius Black and new girlfriend Cho Chang — are grounded in a mutual need to bond with another person after a great, shared loss. Dan said:
"Sirius is clinging on to James (Harry's father and Sirius' best friend) through me, and I'm trying to know my father through him."

And I couldn't help thinking of Elijah speaking on the kissing scene with Christina Ricci in The Ice Storm, when I saw this:
In an article at BBC, Dan spoke about the kissing scene with Katie Leung (Cho Chang):

"It'll be odd because one of my parents will be on set. It will be embarrassing but hopefully I'll work past that and be utterly professional but I'll probably keep screwing it up so that I can keep doing it."
Oh, the pleasures of puberty! :p


And, Whiteling, I do hope you can make it to ringcon. I'm a little worried about wood laying eyes on Mr. Beautiful for the first time without someone there to restrain her (well, restrain her just a bit) ;).
You mean as a sort of Fräulein Rottenmeier? :D Erm, I'm not sure of fulfilling the requirements for this job... if we are lucky :z:, Wood and I can hold on to Eandme. :)

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well TG i am a bit worried about that!!!! hopefully both eandme and whitling are beside me and catch me when im faint :lol:

becuse either i do that or i go complety crasy !!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Edit: i will tell you how much it means to me to met this guy for just a minute!!! i have give up smoking to save money for the trip !!!!!!!
or atleast i will try!!! i haven`t been smoking since Saturday !!! Its 5 DAYES !!!!! so cross all your fingers and toas i will make it !!!! :z: :z: :z:

but reales your fingers sometime so you still can post in here !!!! :lol: ;)

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My copy of EII came yesterday. I've seen the "additional scenes" twice now. They are both cute and cringe inducing at times, and the movie certainly didn't loose anything by being them being cut.
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one scene in particular -- the first, which we've seen the pic of, at the cemetary (as a Jewish woman, the sight of Lij in a yarmulke made me feel all warm and fuzzy), of Jonathan attending his grandmother's funeral. He's offered a handful of dirt, which he bags instead of tosses, and this, to me, is the bookend to the scene at the end, of him throwing the dirt from Trachimbrod on his grandfather's grave. Maybe not a huge deal, but I like the closure this creates.

Also a good scene that could've been included was the one about breakfast, especially since you find out how Sammy got in Jonfen's room, and what happens.

:rolleyes: Oh dear. I'm not much good when it comes to staying cool around Elijah. Yeah ok, so I don't squeal like a deranged seal pup, but I get sort of lightheaded at the sight of him. However, aside from that I think RingCon will be great!
This is so OT. Over and -out.

Cool info and quotes, Tg and Whiteling. Thank you!

Achila, from what it sounds like--yes, I think I would have liked to see those scenes included as well. Although Jonathan is a collector, IIRC (it's been a while since I read the book) the whole baggie thing is an invention of the writer/director. Therefore, the bookending would have been nice to see.

All folks going to RingCon: I want a report! Please? :k

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one scene in particular -- the first, which we've seen the pic of, at the cemetary (as a Jewish woman, the sight of Lij in a yarmulke made me feel all warm and fuzzy), of Jonathan attending his grandmother's funeral. He's offered a handful of dirt, which he bags instead of tosses, and this, to me, is the bookend to the scene at the end, of him throwing the dirt from Trachimbrod on his grandfather's grave. Maybe not a huge deal, but I like the closure this creates.

I did like that scene with the baggie, and the way it underscored Jonathan being a "taker" at the start of the story, and then "giving" at the end. I agree that they could have left that bit in. Thought the "awards ceremony" fantasy was just embarrassing though.

Also, Jonfen in his jammies with messy hair was too cute for words. And loved "we were not becoming better acquainted!" :lol: But the "breakfast" scene in the lobby seemed awkward to me, maybe mostly because it was out of context.

honey!

I'm looking forward to getting the DVD of EII at some point next week. Jonfen in his jammies sounds really sweet.

I buy Total Film every month. In the latest edition, it doesn't have a full DVD review for EII. It's in the "Two Word Reviews" section (for reviews which are either too late, they don't have room for or they think are really rubbish). They give it three stars (hmm) but the two word review kind of baffles me. It's Pesky contracts . I can't think what that can mean unless they weren't allowed to review it in a magazine being published before it was released (but that's kind of unlikely, the DVD is out only days later).

I did like that scene with the baggie, and the way it underscored Jonathan being a "taker" at the start of the story, and then "giving" at the end. I agree that they could have left that bit in. Thought the "awards ceremony" fantasy was just embarrassing though. I have to agree with you on both counts (I got my DVD today. :D ). I think the funeral scene would have made a wonderful bookend to the ending, as well. But maybe Liev decided that it would be beating the audience over the head with a theme? I'm not sure, but I think I would have liked it. The awards things was just pointless, though, and probably my least favorite of the outtakes.

I agree with the removal of most of the outtakes, but there were bits and pieces of them that I wouldn't have minded having in the film itself. In any case, I'm pleased that we get to see them at all. :)

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ChocolateBuny from LJ and I had both thought we saw Elijah "playing" one of the corpses in the mass grave scene back when EII was still in theaters. Now that the DVD is out we've been able to do a bit of research into this matter. ChocolateBuny provided the screenshot (this isn't actually a "screencap" of th DVD. I think she grabbed her camera and snapped a shot of her screen. {CB is a very talented photographer}.) I'll just put the URL here and you take a look for yourself
http://static.flickr.com/38/117101157_f002544c2f_o.jpg

Here's a profile shot for comparison:
http://static.flickr.com/51/116927054_73dbf2d82b_o.jpg

just thought you'd all be interested to see that!

honey!

Also, Jonfen in his jammies with messy hair was too cute for words. And loved "we were not becoming better acquainted!" :lol: But the "breakfast" scene in the lobby seemed awkward to me, maybe mostly because it was out of context. honey!
Agreed. It started out great and then ran out of steam after the "mochachinos" bit petered out -- it needed a better punchline.

I'm not certain this is the right thread for this (although I will link it to Elwood ;) ), but the Chicago Tribune has just reviewed the Toronto musical version of LoTR.

The complete review can be accessed here:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/reviews/critics/chi-0603230382mar24,1,4416254.story?coll=chi-ent_critics-hed

Reviewer Chris Jones has seen the movies, and concludes:

But behold a paradox. "Lord" is now viable on stage because of the popularity of the movies. Yet even at this stunning budgetary level, theater can't compete with film unless it finds its own, distinctive language.

This might make seeing the musical version a must!

...when this show dares to let its main characters sing, the show engages the emotions. At the end of Act 2, Frodo (sweetly played by James Loye) sings with his friend Sam (Peter Howe) a simple ditty about missing home. It's worth more than all the wind machines in Canada.

The online version of the review doesn't reproduce it, but the newspaper had a photo of the Frodo, who clearly resembles Elijah Wood's Frodo.

Thanks for the Musical info, PW!

I also saw a picture, no context whatsoever, but the lights and (I assume) Pippin stooping in the background made me immediately think of the "Get off the road!" scene. This would imply to me that they took at least some of their plot from the movies, as M&P were never thieving mushrooms in the book (not on the journey, anyway). And yes, the Frodo in the foreground did resemble Movie Frodo, at least as far as hair color. :)


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Honeyelf, no comparison shot needed! I clicked on link one and said, "Hey! There he is!" :p Great research!

Thanks for the Musical info, PW!

I also saw a picture, no context whatsoever, but the lights and (I assume) Pippin stooping in the background made me immediately think of the "Get off the road!" scene. This would imply to me that they took at least some of their plot from the movies, as M&P were never thieving mushrooms in the book (not on the journey, anyway). And yes, the Frodo in the foreground did resemble Movie Frodo, at least as far as hair color. :)
I found it very interesting that they said they went out of their way not to copy anything from the movies, and then chose a guy who (they say) has quite a strong resemblance to our One Lad. Perhaps it's subconscious at this point? BTW, the NY Times eviscerated the show in this morning's paper, but one thing -- there's a pic of Merry and Pippin with the ents, you can see the hobbits from the back -- and they're dressed very like they are in the films. The ents, however, are very different from those we've come to know on the screen.

Honeyelf, no comparison shot needed! I clicked on link one and said, "Hey! There he is!" :p Great research!You know, I'm not sure. It does look like him but I'm not 100% convinced. Great Faculty squeesearch tho, even if it isn't! :)

RE Honey's SPOILERS:

It doesn't look quite like him, to me. Do we know that he was actually there? Did we read/hear that somewhere? I can't remember. It's possible that it's him, of course, but his ears look to be the wrong shape and his lower jaw juts forward just a bit too much. When I saw it, I actually thought that it might be Elijah's double, because his jaw does that, but in the one photo I have of him, it appears that his eyebrows are heavier than this.

So I'm undecided. I'll have to find that part of the DVD and freeze it to get a better look, but my gut reaction to that "still" is that it's not him. It'd be cool if it is, though!

Lots more on the LotR stage version in this thread in the Music Hall:
http://www.khazaddum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2010&page=3&pp=25

I linked to the last page (page 3), because the thread started way back with the very first report in 2002, but there is some current info on the latter part of page 2. Ezzie has been doing a great job of posting articles and reviews as they come out - in the midst of her busy schedule. (After seeing a number of pictures, I don't think the two Frodo's look much alike.)


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They're definitely going back to the book for a lot of it - the Scouring is in!





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After seeing a number of pictures, I don't think the two Frodo's look much alike.
To tell the truth, based on the one pic I saw months ago, I didn't think so, but all the early reviews proclaimed him a dead ringer (ha) for Elijah. Can't imagine how that's possible...I've been seeing all sorts of men lately put forward as resembling Lij and I just don't see it in any of them.

I saw the beginnings of that negative article in Ezzie's "LOTR the Musical Thread" and just decided not to read it. My husband and I have tickets for the show in early May, and besides trying to avoid spoilers, I'd just rather keep believing that it's going to be a wonderful experience. From his opening paragraph the reviewer seemed to take issue with the production costs; I remember reviewers raising the same objection to "The Lion King" saying that it was devoid of emotional impact, etc. etc., and look how long that's run!

As to James Loye being a "dead ringer" for Elijah, I hardly think so, and I wish reviewers would stop saying it. It smacks of them laying the success of the show to its resemblance of the movies, and I'd like to see the show reviewed on it's on merits.

Ah, but while in New York I'm planning on getting together for one evening with Flourish. :k I'm hoping very much that Achila, CeeFour and RobinHoo (from LiveJournal) will get to join us. Any other Faculty members available for a mini-moot? PM me if you want. Looks like Saturday, May 20th is the day. I'll have just seen LoTR the musical the previous night! :)

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Bunnie, If you look closely at the picture, the person is question has a beard, possibly accounting for your thought that the jaw line is wrong. ChocolateBuny and I both think that if it is him, they did something to his nose, because it doesn't look quite right either. What looks exactly right IMVHO is the shape if his closed eye, eyebrow and forehead, and those are pretty distinctive features. It would also fit with the "doubles" motif at the end of the film in the airport scene. I'm not positive either. Maybe a good question to ask him at the next con, huh?

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Regarding my previous possible EII SPOILER


Bunnie, If you look closely at the picture, the person is question has a beard, possibly accounting for your thought that the jaw line is wrong. ChocolateBuny and I both think that if it is him, they did something to his nose, because it doesn't look quite right either. What looks exactly right IMVHO is the shape if his closed eye, eyebrow and forehead, and those are pretty distinctive features. It would also fit with the "doubles" motif at the end of the film in the airport scene. I'm not positive either. Maybe a good question to ask him at the next con, huh?

I noticed the beard, but what I was referring to was the actual set of his jaw and the profile of his lips, rather than the line of his jaw. Having just done my own "research", I think, perhaps, that the person in question is one that we get quite a good look at a few moments later, when Alex Sr. is just sitting up, and again when he stands and looks down. The position is right, the eyebrows are right, the nose matches, so I think that it's most likely him and not Elijah. I would love to be proved wrong, though! ;)

Don't know if everyone saw it but there's a piece on Ain't It Cool News about Happy Feet, which Quint got to see a bit of at ShoWest. Apparently, they've done something interesting to Mumble's eyes:

"This larger penguin is voiced by Elijah Wood and creepily enough... the animators give this penguin giant, blue Elijah Wood eyes. Creepy, but the women will find it cute, I'm sure."

He goes on to say some very positive things about the clips of the film he's seen. Go to *you know where* and you'll see that it's the very first item at the top of the page.

Thanks for the link, Achila. When Mumbles' singing is described, I immediately thought of him singing like EW's choir boy in the skit on SNL.

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When Mumbles' singing is described, I immediately thought of him singing like EW's choir boy in the skit on SNL.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if that's how he got the role? That SNL show was quite popular. :D

"This larger penguin is voiced by Elijah Wood and creepily enough... the animators give this penguin giant, blue Elijah Wood eyes. Creepy, but the women will find it cute, I'm sure."
Thanks, Achila, for pointing the way. :)
Sounds as if Quint finds Elijah as penguin much much scarier than as mute cannibal. It's a strange world. :p


All folks going to RingCon: I want a report! Please?
Why certainly!... However, we kindly ask you to show a *little* patience, since RingCon will take place only in november. :eek: ;)

Just dropping by to let you all know that EII has percolated into contemporary political discourse. Whodathunkit?

There has been a dust-up at the Washington Post this week, which hired a conservative blogger to "balance" their on-line coverage (by a journalist). The guy who was hired turned out to be a serial plagiarist (even plagiarizing material from the--wait, wait--Washington Post), so he has since been allowed to resign. But he posted for years at one web site under the nickname, Augustine. So Jane Hamsher at the Huffingtonpost.com (an online journal) entitled a piece about him, "Who is Augustine?" :)

I don't know why that made me smile. I guess somebody other than we die hard Elwood fans have seen this movie!!

Goldenberry and I had a delicious time watching it again this week...

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Happy Ring Day, Everybody!

So Jane Hamsher at the Huffingtonpost.com (an online journal) entitled a piece about him, "Who is Augustine?" :)...I guess somebody other than we die hard Elwood fans have seen this movie!!

Either that, or Ms. Hamsher is a closet Elwood fan! :D

honey!

Happy Gondorian New Year!

It's not exactly happy, but is about as close as we can get:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/RotK/048204e0.jpg

While looking for something "happy" from the day in question, I just had to marvel again... There are 9 frames from that particular shot on this page: http://www.frodolivesin.us/RotK/id4.htm, and looking at them one-by-one as individual pictures... Wow... I don't want to even think about the possibility that anyone else could have gotten this role.

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There are also some new Grey Havens (http://www.frodolivesin.us/RotK/id47.htm) pages up.

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I don't know about creepy, but I'd agree that Mumble's big, blue eyes

http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/9a200470.jpg


do take up a higher percentage of his face than is true of most penguins.

http://www.afewwordsabout.us/blue/e3fbcd40.jpg

Sorry the second one isn't the greatest picture - but it's the only shot of penguins I have online.

Speaking of penguins, TG, I just read the Jon Heder (Napolean Dynamite) is working on an animated feature in which he, Stever Buscemi, Kathleen Turner and Maggie Gyllenhall play penguins. :eek: It's due in theaters this summer, and it's called Surf's Up. Let us hope that those cute little guys in their perinnial tuxedoes don't wear out their welcome in the audiences' heart before the year is out! :z:

I love your Gondorian New Year picture. I'm just getting my head up from painting homework for a minute, but on my next break I wanna go peek at your Grey Havens pages.

honey!

Oh Thanks Tg :k :k . I love all your contributions but treasure your insight into FRODO and our One Lad's part in bringing that to screen. Oh dear...............

Will eagerly catch up on your new Grey Haven additions.

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Cheers on this portentous day of days!

tg, the Grey Haven pages are just wonderful. One of my favorites...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Shelbyshire/5cf204f0.jpg

I think Surfs Up is being released next summer and not this summer. So no big threat. Unless they've brought the release date forward to get in before Happy Feet but that's kind of unlikely for an animated film.

D'oh! :o Thank you, Sneaking!

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I "just" checked IMDb and it does, indeed, have Surf's Up listed as being planned for 2007. Does that give them time to change the highly original title :haha: ?

"Just" is in quotes above, because I went straight from here to IMDb about... uh... 2 hours ago :rolleyes: , before Honey posted. Got waylaid by a link to a screenwriter's site, which led on to actually surfing the web, which I very seldom do, and finding a lot of the writing resources I had bookmarked on my old computer as well as a few new ones. I've also been doing some more research related to the novel I set aside halfway finished when the LotR movie news broke and I switched my energies to Tolkien discussion and Elijah Wood defense. I think I'm itching a bit to get back to fiction writing... but I still have some nonfiction things I want to do. My counselor told me my ADD is so severe that I could probably qualify for disability - it gets very tempting to not have to "waste time" on that silly cancer research day job! But I'm sure I'd feel guilty and like more of a failure than I already do, so will keep plugging away. I can retire in < 17 years :cool: ! Then maybe I can get my laundry done :p .

I'm glad some are enjoying the Grey Havens pages. Most likely none of the pics are new to anyone, but one goal is to get a beginning-to-end scene-by-scene Frolijah analysis posted, so I may be doing some more RotK scenes using just the screencaps I already have from my on-the-fly capping. Additional frames can always be added in where they're helpful.

Shelbyshire, that's also one of my favorate frames. :) It's just so perfectly in movement from one emotion to another, with Elijah's wonderful transitions as opposed to a lot of actors' somewhat unnatural jumps from one expression directly into another. :cool:

I've also been rearranging the Frodo part of "Playing with Paint Shop" to put the pictures in order according to occurrence in the movies instead of according to when I did them. It makes more sense that way, I think, but I haven't figured out a method for letting people know where new ones are. Here's one page ( http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/id60.htm) of Paint Shopped pics I did while working on the Mirror of Galadriel scene but had forgotten about and never posted.

But there are also ones that fit into pages that aren't entirely new, such as some additions to the Moria pics (http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/id57.htm).

And once in a while, in the course of human and hobbit events, there comes a picture that just can't wait for a birthday or a new thread or any other real reason to post it except that it made me say "Whooaa" when it popped up onscreen:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/3dd908d0.jpg

What I like best about it, is that the original frame is from one of the shots where Frodo looks very young and innocent - but this shows a whole different side. (Since I don't really create these pics, I figure it's not boasting to say nice things about them. :p And occasionally one will surprise and excite me when I see it the way this one did.)

Whoa is right! Beautiful pic, Tg!

I was wondering about blue-eyed Mumble, and thinking the big blue eyes are deliberate. I really wondered that for the Corpse Bride movie -- I think they went out of their way to make cartoon Victor Van Dort resemble Johnny Depp. A little treat for the fans who appreciate the actor behind the voice, I think.

I just think no one caps so well as Elijah. I do try to make caps of other actors on occasion, mostly for icons, and they really don't look as good in freeze frame as they do moving. Except for Elijah, who has this talent to look good not moving. How does he DO that? :p

Whoa is right! Beautiful pic, Tg!
Thanks - Paint Shop is a wonderful thing. :) Also, per your following remarks, it helps to have good material :D -

I just think no one caps so well as Elijah. I do try to make caps of other actors on occasion, mostly for icons, and they really don't look as good in freeze frame as they do moving. Except for Elijah, who has this talent to look good not moving. How does he DO that? :p
Absolutely - IMVHO it goes back to the fact that you simply never catch Elijah out of character, in large part because all his transitions are made within the character instead of "Okay, now I'm Frodo being sad," then "Okay, now I'm Frodo being happy." Because he's so completely in character in every frame, each one is like a separate work of art. I think other actors have the ability to slip through a transition very quickly, so that it's not obvious when watching the moving picture, but when you stop on one frame they're sometimes just "not quite right" in some way or other.

If I can post one more link before I leave :o , here's "The Saga of Brego the Wonder Horse" (http://home.earthlink.net/~screencaps/id20.html) from very early in 2003 - almost immediately after TTT opened. The introductory paragraph says:
Here are the long-promised results of my attempt to give some of the other LotR actors an equal chance to show just what the character is thinking and feeling in a screencap--no words, no action. Sorry, no contest. Without the story and the dialogue, just about anything could be going on. For example:

Those who were "here" in early 2003 may remember Ye Olde Crebain Site - where I posted caps/scans that were not entirely, uh, legal... :o (A chance to brush up on your Malaysian ;) )

Those who weren't "here" in early 2003, feel free to poke around, especially in the TTT archive. There are probably more TTT scenes posted there than on the "real" site, because once we'd discussed them in the thread it didn't seem to make sense to redo them all, although eventually I do want to do that; if nothing else, caps from the legal DVDs would be so much better than those from the pirated VCDs.

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I'd say having good material is important (IMVHO-stunning -how does he do that?) but I also very much enjoy your analysis and presentation Tg. A wonderful pairing.....very much appreciated. :k

saile

TG, I went to your site last night and started to look at "The End of All Things" and just couldn't get through it. That's not because your writing wasn't insightful, because it's as insightful as ever. It was because of Frodo; just seeing still frames of him there was enough to get me crying again. So I'm in total agreement with what you said up there about Elijah remaining in character at all times on screen.

Ran across this quote in an article about the LoTR stage production:
"One of the old-line Tolkien society folks was arguing that people who came to the books after the movies would just never get it. I disagree. They may be saddled with the unfortunate image of Elijah Wood as Frodo — he looks like a combination of Michelangelo's David and Michael Jackson five surgeries ago; he's just too pretty for the role — but that's just a consequence. I think there have been people who came to the books because of the movies."

Jeepers man, what about what he DID in the role??? You poor short-sighted man, did you feel nothing watching Elijah play Frodo? "unfortunate image" indeed!

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honey!

You have to admit though, Honey -- that IS a pretty apt description of Elijah's looks -- LOL

tg, as you may or may not know, a few months ago I started making screencaps, too. (So as to make some use of my time while staring at them anyway.) I didn't feel they would be redundant with yours because they're for swooning, not for examining EW's acting per se. And I am looking at the presentation of Frodo the character in the screencaps, not EW the craftsman (except incidentally). Of course, to present the caps I always write something about the scenes the caps come from.

I haven't looked at your wonderful site in a while, but lurking in here this morning I saw Honeyelf's reference to your End of All Things entry. Tg had done an End of All Things entry? Hot dog! I said to myself. I just looked at it and it was, as always, written with perception and feeling -- and it talks as much about the scene as a scene, as it does about EW's acting in it, so.....

I was wondering if I might edit a link to it, to included in my own series of caps? I have said very little in mine that is different from what you have said in yours, but you did say additional things. Also, I tweaked the colour/exposure/sharpness values, so looking at yours would refresh folk's visual memories as to what the actual film looked like. You have more reference shots of Sam, too.

Since all Frodo-lovers (and those who love what EW did in the role) really cherish this scene, why not let them know where more treasure lies? What do you think? You may not want your more serious project associated with one that is openly swoony.*

*Think of HoneyElf's quote from the Tolkien Society person complaining of the effect of seeing EW in the role. I am sure when such persons see LotR fans swooning over film-Frodo's screencaps, it just feeds their irritation. I chuckled a little when I read it because his/her remark assumes this response is limited to people who came to the films without having read the books -- as if book fans would know better than to "be saddled with the unfortunate image of Elijah Wood as Frodo [who] looks like a combination of Michelangelo's David and Michael Jackson five surgeries ago... [who is] just too pretty for the role".

"Saddled," hrrmph. How about, "blessed by the image of Elijah Wood as Frodo..." or, "enriched" ... etc.? Or, "enchanted," or, "mesmerized," or, "stricken as by Cupid's love-tipped arrow"?

Ok, ok, that was a little over the top. :D But I'm sure ever Faculty reader could add another verb to the list.

Anyway, if you'd rather not answer this in the thread, or if it is too OT here and needs to be deleted, please PM me. :)

~ Mechtild

Mechtild - IMHO, not off topic at all. And you don't have to convince me - link away! ("Regular" links are never a bad thing - it's only hotlinks that eat up bandwidth.) My philosophy with my entire website is that it's impossible to cover everything, so it's best to concentrate on certain areas; even covering those is hard enough :eek: ! The whole point of the "web" is to link to sites that cover different but related areas. (I'm preaching to myself there - one of the many things I need to do is add to my own outgoing links.) I don't have anything inherently against swooning - it's just not part of my personal reaction (although I'll admit to an occasionally "Whoaahh" ;) ), so I figure it's better left to others while I use the time I have to concentrate on something else.

But, as "Frolijah" implies, it's often impossible to draw a line between looking at Elijah's acting and looking at Frodo, especially at how he's shown in the movies. In the best scenes - as I say in "The End of All Things" comments - they're so related that I don't even have to talk about the actor separately.

And I guess it doesn't even hurt to look backwards once in awhile. IIRC, "The End of All Things" was the second page I put up after the first RotK DVD came out. The first was "It's Gone," because I had to get a frame-by-frame look at those changing facial expressions! So it's been up there for quite awhile and people are still discovering it. (And, of course, the other "half" of the site is all Frodo related, so if you want to link to any essays, feel free to do that, too; not all are related to the movies.)

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When I'm checking new posts, I usually come to this thread last, so I wondered if Honey would add that part of the LotR stage production review here :rolleyes: . I know of absolutely nothing in book canon that says Frodo can't be "pretty" :confused: . The only things "wrong" with Elijah's appearance are that Frodo should be taller than Sam and his hair should be lighter than Sam's, because of the Harfoot/Fallohide thing; so anything counter to book canon as far as Frodo's physical appearance can be "fixed" by picturing Sam differently - no one has to eject Frolijah from their imagination at all (although I'd prefer to change the Wig to his natural hair color).

I know of absolutely nothing in book canon that says Frodo can't be "pretty" :confused: . The only things "wrong" with Elijah's appearance are that Frodo should be taller than Sam and his hair should be lighter than Sam's, because of the Harfoot/Fallohide thing; so anything counter to book canon as far as Frodo's physical appearance can be "fixed" by picturing Sam differently - no one has to eject Frolijah from their imagination at all (although I'd prefer to change the Wig to his natural hair color).
Obviously, this calls into question what exactly Tolkien meant by "fairer than most" -- did he mean "fair" as in pretty, or "fair" as in fair-haired (i.e., blond)? Considering that the rest of the hobbits were described as having medium brown hair, my assumption is the latter (but yes, why couldn't it be both -- there's a lot of potential latitude there). The hobbits are also described as not a beautiful race but sturdy and peasant-like, and Frodo is singled out as appearing different from the crowd.

This all leads to the burning question -- so then -- if Frodo, by all accounts COULD be pretty, why was the casting of Elijah Wood so contentious? I personally think it had more to do with his age than physical appearance, and once people saw that the four principal hobbits were portrayed as being roughly the same age, the emphasis on that lessened.

Obviously, this calls into question what exactly Tolkien meant by "fairer than most" -- did he mean "fair" as in pretty, or "fair" as in fair-haired (i.e., blond)? Considering that the rest of the hobbits were described as having medium brown hair, my assumption is the latter (but yes, why couldn't it be both -- there's a lot of potential latitude there). The hobbits are also described as not a beautiful race but sturdy and peasant-like, and Frodo is singled out as appearing different from the crowd.
Is there such a thing as "too pretty"?? :confused: :rolleyes:
I didn't receive the impression from the book that Tolkien thought Frodo overly pretty. He is different of course, but not in a hunky way.
I think, from the dramaturgical POV it was very effective in the films to have such a good-looking Frodo - the (visual) contrast between an innocent, angelic looking hobbit and an almost destroyed and corrupted Mt. Doom Dark Lord it's so much more haunting IMHO. And Frolijah *has* a dark side, oh yes -


Tg showed us....

http://www.frodolivesin.us/picsfrodo/3dd908d0.jpg....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/whiteling/57a6ffd2.jpg

and Willow Wode (fanfic writer and very busy illustrator of her stories) showed it...
Whoa, indeed!

Thanks for the reply, tg. I'll add that link. And I apologize for not looking at the rest of your site. I think I got waylaid by this hobbit who was a cross between Michaelangelo's David and a Baroque angel in The Fellowship of the Ring and never got out of it.

Achila, I think you are right that people were more surprised by Frodo's youth than his good looks. They were all thinking of a hobbit past his first youth -- some thought middle-aged, some not, since a hobbit's 50 didn't equal a human's 50. But the Ring was supposed to have kept its wearer (including Frodo) from looking any older, so he would have looked about the same all those years after his coming of age. That said, I never thought EW's Frodo looked as though he'd come of age, even for a hobbit. Except in his most mature scenes, I always thought film Frodo looked no older than 18 or 19 in human years. Sometimes he looked younger. All of the other hobbits looked older to me.

As for, "fairer than most," I am sure by that usage Tolkien meant "fair" in the sense of beautiful, or pleasing to the eye, as in, "Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is fairest of them all?" In the Prologue, JRRT used the word "fair" to denote a paler colouring of face and hair (talking about the Fallowhides), but mostly "fair" is used by T. to mean "lovely" or "beautiful", whether he is referring to landscapes, the weather, or the face of black-haired Luthien. To designate blonds, he seems to have used actual colour names rather than calling them "fair," or "fair-haired". Goldberry's "long yellow hair rippled down her shoulders," Celeborn's was called, "silver," and Galadriel's, "deep gold." The people of Rohan were called, "yellow-haired."

Whiteling, I've seen that picture of Frodo by Willow-wode before, but only a small one. He looks quite "Byronic". And very appropriate, too, as a picture of the tempestuous, brooding sort of Frodo she has created in her fic (once he had grown up, that is).

~ Mechtild

ETA: Simulposted with Mechtild on this one, so some of the following is repetition.

Obviously, this calls into question what exactly Tolkien meant by "fairer than most" -- did he mean "fair" as in pretty, or "fair" as in fair-haired (i.e., blond)?
Ah, yes, one of the perennial questions of Tolkien fandom :p . (And for others, I'm personally in the "Legolas had dark hair" party ;) , and lean towards Elves having pointed ears.)

Without the "fairer" statement, the other "evidence" is that Fallohides are generally fairer - specifically in coloring - than are Harfoots and Stoors. The three cousins are all Fallohides, while Sam seems to be a Harfoot (Farmer Maggot is likely a Stoor). Fallohides also tended to be taller and slimmer, which is why I didn't agree with those who said the hobbits should all have been played by people who were stout. PJ was right in saying the only one who had to gain weight was Sean - but he should also have been shorter, if we're sticking to book canon. But that's why Sam had to give Frodo a piggy-back ride up Mount Doom in the book, and I'm sure the way it could be done with Sam being taller than Frodo was much safer!

This all leads to the burning question -- so then -- if Frodo, by all accounts COULD be pretty, why was the casting of Elijah Wood so contentious? I personally think it had more to do with his age than physical appearance, and once people saw that the four principal hobbits were portrayed as being roughly the same age, the emphasis on that lessened.
IMVHO (having replied to a lot of the complaints back in those days - and, actually, launching my website to response to them), it was primarily because many people, especially older teens and younger twenty-somethings, didn't think Elijah could act. They'd seen him in The Faculty (where he, indeed, does some great acting, but you have to look for it), Deep Impact, and Flipper, so in a way you can't blame them. Some more mature people, who remembered him from his childhood movies, and who had been old enough to see the R-rated Ice Storm, had more perspective on the casting.

The "chubby" argument was also brought up repeatedly - I spent a lot of time explaining Fallohides (don't younger book purists read the Prologue, FES?). His age was also an issue, and I spent a lot of time reminding people that Frodo would have looked like someone just come of age, so Elijah was actually the perfect age (wish they would have let him act the middle-aged Frodo, though - I totally believe he could have pulled it off).

Whoops, tg, I see we simul-posted. I should have waited to see what you were going to say. :)

~ Mechtild

Simulposted reports of simulposting, I see. ;)

To add to the memories -- The age of the complainers is what led to "Kill me now!" often being followed by "That kid from Deep Impact (or Flipper) is going to play Frodo?!"

ETA: Ooops - Forgot that I was going to mention that one of the new essays at frodolivesin.us is based on a question raised in this thread a few weeks back, just so no one [*cough* txtac *cough*] gets caught unawares. ;)

I may get lynched for this but: I was kind of aghast when I read that Elijah was playing Frodo. I'd deliberately ignored any news relating to the LOTR film and only checked the cast list a couple of weeks before Xmas after my mother told me she'd booked tickets for us all. I'm a big fan of the Ice Storm, so my main bone of contention was age. I was pretty concerned about the role of Frodo in a film at all (I think Frodo isn't an easy character to fit into the usual character pigeonholes and cliches of blockbuster films) and also one that requires quite some level of maturity to play. I was also slightly worried that Frodo would have an american accent (trailer corrected me on that one pretty quickly). Sounds really stupid now, doesn't it. :lol:

Good news: I have my EII DVD
Bad news: Black and White is on TV tonight (UK), I've never seen it and I am going to record it.

Doesn't really sound silly at all to me, Sneaking!

Yesterday my husband, daughter and I were talking about some of our recent favorite movies. We all saw and loved V for Vendetta, and were saying how glad we were that the Wachowski brothers didn't put a love scene in because they very frequently disrupt the flow of story in a film.

Somewhere from there I got round to telling them how much I'd disliked Elijah Wood (all conversational threads leading to EJW :o ) as Frodo the first time I saw Fellowship. (Now who's going to be lynched?) From the first moment that he popped up on screen I thought he was way too pretty to be believed, and I spent the rest of the movie looking at anything but him! I particularly loathed that scene were he nearly takes his shirt off! Michelangelo meets Michael Jackson indeed! :lol:

Consequently, when we got to the end of the film I realized that I'd only skimmed the surface of the story, and that something interesting was going on. I hadn't read the books at that point, and had been reluctantly dragged to what I was sure would be a special effects extravaganza! But the action and the places had all seemed so real!

The next time I saw the film was right before TTT came out in theaters. I decided to pay attention this time, and pretty much straight away Elijah grabbed my attention with his Frodo. What he was doing seemed so real that I was able to forgive him is ridiculuosly beautiful face! I found myself drawn into a real place with characters, Frodo in particular, having real emotions.

And here I am all these years later...

honey!

I was also slightly worried that Frodo would have an american accent (trailer corrected me on that one pretty quickly).

Sneaking - Before seeing ‘Fellowship’ I hadn’t a clue who Elijah Wood was, but I came away from my first viewing of the film convinced that Frodo was played by an English actor! It was quite a shock the first time I heard Elijah speak in his natural accent.

Film Frodo’s youth never was a concern for me. He wasn’t quite the Frodo I’d had in mind when reading the books - but (rightly or wrongly) I had always taken the ‘fairer than most’ reference to mean ‘fair of face,’ so his good looks seemed quite appropriate to my mind. As Honey says, Elijah’s Frodo was real. His was a compelling, heartfelt performance that touched me deeply.

Good news: I have my EII DVD

Me too! Me too! Unfortunately, I didn’t get to see it in the cinema. Hubby and I have just watched it. I loved it! it’s funny yet so, so poignant, with excellent performances all round - not least from Elijah. IMO, he played Jonathan with perfect restraint and subtlety of emotion - I’m sure he almost cried when Lista gave him Augustine’s ring - very touching! Even my husband - who teases me remorselessly over my Frodo/Elijah addiction - thoroughly enjoyed it, and wants to watch it again when he hasn’t got a headache! (He missed a few of the sub-titles as he had to leave his glasses off.) He even watched the deleted scenes with me, and laughed out loud at the Jonathan/Sammy ‘I love you,’ fantasy. :) It was well worth the wait. Oh, and Shireling - you were right, I adored Jonathan’s goodbye to Sammy! :)

Bad news: Black and White is on TV tonight (UK), I've never seen it and I am going to record it.

Oh dear!!! :eek:

I loved it too. It made me cry which isn't like me. Even although it is to some degree a game of too halves with a tone switch, it wasn't as much as I thought since there was a lot of poignant bits in amongst and even during the humour in the first half. The only thing I regret is that I was a bit too spoiled with regards to the content of the film. I would have liked to see it without knowing how it ends ("you already know how this will end" :) ) , if you see what I mean. I wonder if I would have picked up on all the little details between the Perchovs and the sort of slow orchestrated build up.

Black and White tomorrow. I think I need to do some mental preparation. Or practise using the fast forward button or something.

Before seeing ‘Fellowship’ I hadn’t a clue who Elijah Wood was, but I came away from my first viewing of the film convinced that Frodo was played by an English actor! It was quite a shock the first time I heard Elijah speak in his natural accent.
Me, too. I just gaped at the interviews. All of them sounded so wrong! Elijah, so American! Viggo: mumble mumble mumble. Liv: girly-girl high voice! Orlando sounded like himself, but looked completely un-Elflike with that dark-haired mohawk.

I tell you, I came away from the behind-the-scenes clips stunned, stunned I say. I thought, "These are either really good actors, or the whole lot of them are a bunch of imposters." :p

Sneaking, you are way braver than me. Can you give me a report on Black and White after you see it? I'm too cowardly to do more than read the reports. Good luck!

I tell you, I came away from the behind-the-scenes clips stunned, stunned I say.

I did too, but for a good long while the only one I noticed in those was Elijah. :p I was just blown away that this goofy kid played Frodo So Well. To this day, I simply don't see Elijah Wood while watching LOTR (or EII, for that matter). It is astonishing how completely he disappears into the role.

Enjoying the conversation, as well as the tg and Willow Wode illos. ;)

Sheryl

ETA #2:

Re-reading my post, I decided it had an irritable, pouty-lipped sort of tone that I didn't like and didn't intend. Meh! :rolleyes:

I am too tired to re-do it so I thought I'd just delete it. (If you didn't read it, it didn't say anything very substantive. :) ) Sorry!

~ Mechtild

Oh Mech, I didn't mean that I still hate the "unbuttoning scene," nor that I thought it was intended to be erotic in any way! (That would be really creepy, wouldn't it?) I'd been told that we were there to see a fabulous story, and it seemed (on my first viewing) that we were breaking away from the story for just a moment for the camera to have a little swooning fit over that ridiculously pretty actor they had playing that Frodo Baggins character! I don't like having my filmic experiences interrupted so. Rather, let me amend that to "I didn't..." since I've learned to appreciate that particular ridiculously beautiful actor. Have I redeemed myself?? :( Or even made any sense??

Sneaking, we keep a bottle of brain bleach here in the Faculty Lounge for useapres viewings of Black and White . You are welcome to as many applications as necessary! Just don't grab the bottle marked TAMTSNBN because it won't do the job! ;)

honey!

Sneaking, we keep a bottle of brain bleach here in the Faculty Lounge for useapres viewings of Black and White . You are welcome to as many applications as necessary! I may be needing that bottle myself at some point. While perusing the aisles at my local Blockbuster today, I found that they did not have a copy of Avalon (which I've yet to see), but they did have two (two!) copies of B&W. I've said I'll never watch that one even for EJW, but suddenly I felt tempted. Instead I grabbed Forever Young, which will be another first for me. Crisis averted for the time being, but what about next time? :eek:

Speaking of Blockbuster, I noted with great pleasure that the EII copies for rent had expanded to a second shelf, and while I didn't count the spaces, I figure that it must be 16-20 copies at the very least, of which only three (three!) were available. :cool:

Honey! I see we simul-posted/simul-edited. I feel sillier still, now. :D

I am sure you didn't mean you thought the scene was designed to give fans a thrill. I just wanted to emphasize that many viewers, while they might appreciate that film Frodo was amazing-looking, weren't thinking of him or his scenes in a swoony way, including the shirt scene. It was a scene that made sense in its context, not stopping but developing the dramatic action. The whole focus on the unbuttoning was to prepare for the thing PJ really was interested in: the moment when Bilbo would turn into the ghoul puppet, LOL.

As for Frodo's extreme good looks, I think I just wasn't invested enough in what he would look like in the films to have a strong opinion about what he looked like (too pretty, too young, too dark-haired, etc.). I think if I had gone to see the film the way you may have done -- full of anticipation long built up and really excited to see what the filmmakers had done to "my" book, I might have looked at the casting choice more askance. But I had written off the films as sure to be faithless travesties from the start, knowing nothing about them (nothing like maintaining an open mind :rolleyes:). I only saw FotR for the first time by accident, really, walking through the living room with a stack of laundry one summer afternoon while my daughter and the neighbour children were watching it on video. I had no idea who was playing any of the roles, but when I stopped to watch I put down my laundry and stayed -- just because I thought the film as a whole turned out so well.

No one was what I had pictured them to be in their roles from reading the book (except perhaps for Gandalf), so that film Frodo didn't look like the way I had pictured him was not exceptional. He looked as different from what I had had in mind as Pippin and Merry or Aragorn did. But I wasn't displeased.

~ Mechtild

Mech, clearly I'm not explaining myself well here. I'd never read the books, and I was anticipating some cheesey adventure movie with special effects running amok. I'd also cut my teeth on far, far too many of those dreadful "historical" movies from the '50's when they somehow arranged for Lewis and Clarke to meet up with beautiful, civilized daughter of the Governor of this or that territory way out in the middle of nowhere. In short, I was expecting that I'd been drug unwilling to a movie that was going to be nothing like the book that I'd never had any interest in reading! If you get my general drift, here.

Anyhow, what I was anticipating as I watched the "unbuttoning" scene for the first time - an excuse manufactured for the sole purpose of getting that pretty actor's shirt off - did not materialize, much to my great relief!

And that's my 1000th post, so pic-spam! As pennance, something Frodish. Sorry I don't have a cap of the "unbuttoning!" :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/honeyelf/March20.jpg

honey!

Estë tiptoes in to tell of her appreciation for:

Mechtild’s screen-caps, Tg's essays and caps, the Faculty’s discussions and research, and to leave an attachment of Inger Edelfeldt’s dark haired Legolas. :)

Sorry I don't have a cap of the "unbuttoning!" :D
Honey - Here y'go. Congratulations on 1000 posts!

http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/0adfbd80.jpg

That's my favorite cap from this series, because Frodo's expression is scary, but here's one while the unbuttoning is in progress:

http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/0a8feda0.jpg

Both from here (http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/id9.htm). No close-ups, I'm afraid.

Mechtild, speaking of a cross between Michaelangelo's David and a Baroque angel, have you seen the (14!) pages from The Mirror of Galadriel (http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/id34.htm)? :p

http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/3be20570.jpg

http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/3f2204f0.jpg



Oooo, Estë, I love that picture of Legolas, but have never had a copy of it. So now I do ;) . Thanks for sharing it. :cool:

Honeyelf, I stand corrected. I had completely forgot you went to the films without having read the books. I am sure I have heard you saying that before, too. Forgive me. :rolleyes: I see what you mean, now. You watched FotR [grudgingly] expecting the film to follow the stock conventions of romantic adventure films. Such films often include some sort of scene in which the chaste heroine is bathing in the river so that the hero can come upon her quite by chance and think, "Havens! Until this moment, I hadn't thought of Chloe/Lalia/Marianna/Isolinda in quite this way...!" Only, instead of the gratuitous skinny-dippying scene, there's a gratutitous shirt removal. The twist on the formula in FotR would be that the chaste beauty is a man not a maid, and that the one who happens upon the chaste beauty undressing is not another character but the audience! :p

tg, thanks for decorating the thread so nicely! And, special note to the Tolkien Society critic, not even half a dozen surgeries ago did Michael Jackson make as pretty a Baroque angel, no way. (He was a darned cute little kid, though.) Thanks so much for those links, too. One day I'm going to get up to The Mirror of Galadriel in my screencaps. When I do, I'll give you a holler. Like all of the dark film scenes, I intend to do a colour/exposure/focus-corrected version, just for the sake of admiring the face. You may want to look at them. As with some of the Bree and "End of All Things" ones I did, not only are they very pretty (Michael Jackson, eat your heart out), they show an awful lot of detail in terms of facial expression that's not as easy to see in the darkly atmospheric grading for these scenes in the films.

Estë, that's a really good Legolas! Nice movement to the picture, too. You know, Legolas is another character who looked very different from what I was picturing from the books, but I wasn't at all sorry about the hair colour choice. I thought Bloom got the rest of it so right, an Elf's easy elegance, at once graceful, modest, and grave, I didn't care what colour they made his hair. I am sorry the films he's been in since then have not shown off his charms as an actor that well (they mostly have shown off his personal charms). He's made a lot of money for them, though, which is some consolation. It goes to pay for a lot of skydiving and bungee-jumping and so forth.

Bunnie and Sneaking, I finally got a copy of Black and White to watch from inter-library loan. I didn't want to have a "hole" in my EW viewing. That is definitely the way to go with the film. Free. I didn't even have to lose the price of postage to watch it. And, yes, I did use the fast-forward button a lot. My daughter and I put Black and White at about the top of our "Turkey for the Ages" list, keeping close company with Alexander. At least Alexander was a flamboyant turkey, which made it far less dull.

I forgot to mention that our library system finally purchased Chain of Fools. It's not available to rent here and I hadn't been able to get it through inter-library loan. It was cute. Casting EW as a youthful hitman was called a ridiculous choice by some reviewers, but the film was supposed to be funny in an off-beat, wacky sort of way. All of the characters had a bit of the ridiculous about them; EW's was no exception. I can't say I thought that was a valid complaint. I think he did a good job within the requirements of the film.

~ Mechtild

Estë, your dark-haired Legolas is wonderful! I had always pictured him with dark hair, even when the Brothers Hildebrandt were busy churning out their staticly posed cartoony renditions of Tolkien's work. (I really liked their Smaug, though!)

To this day, I simply don't see Elijah Wood while watching LOTR (or EII, for that matter). It is astonishing how completely he disappears into the role.
So true for me as well. Frodo in particular exists as a creature out of the realm of the World I Live In. Perhaps it's the wig. But I have never once seen EW anywhere in any one of these movies. :p

I found that they did not have a copy of Avalon (which I've yet to see), but they did have two (two!) copies of B&W. I've said I'll never watch that one even for EJW, but suddenly I felt tempted. Instead I grabbed Forever Young, which will be another first for me.
You have not seen Avalon? :eek: Well worth watching. EW is a pretty major character in it, and has a wonderful emotional early scene. I hope you can round up a copy sometime.

How did you like Forever Young? I watched this ages ago, and the thing I remembered about it was that "terrific kid" and the treehouse scene. I didn't care for how they resolved the story, but EW's part in it is great. I really had a fun time coming up with Froshadowings for that movie. For a blast from the past, see http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/fronat.html Warning: Spoilers.

And I really enjoyed Chain of Fools. It's one of those movies I feel completely comfortable playing for a non-EW audience, because it's just so goofy!

I'd also cut my teeth on far, far too many of those dreadful "historical" movies from the '50's when they somehow arranged for Lewis and Clarke to meet up with beautiful, civilized daughter of the Governor of this or that territory way out in the middle of nowhere.
*falls down laughing* Brilliant.

I am sure you didn't mean you thought the scene was designed to give fans a thrill. ... The whole focus on the unbuttoning was to prepare for the thing PJ really was interested in: the moment when Bilbo would turn into the ghoul puppet, LOL.
That's it, the bitter truth. PJ was clueless as to the hunks o' men he had parading around up there. If he'd had the slightest clue, he would have had Aragorn wash his hair. Brad Pitt had flawless hair in Troy. But I'm sure that was historically accurate; people by the sea bathed more, didn't they? ;)

Hey, you lay off Aragorn's dirty hair. I never thought he was as hot when he was clean.

Mariole, I LOVED the Forever Young/LotR Frodshadowings post you linked. I am saving it. What a scream! -- and so on the money, too! :k

~ Mechtild

P.S. Yes, Avalon is very fine film. Anyone should see it, not just EW fans looking to watch anything he was in, even B&W.

Mariole, thanks for the link to your Froshadowings. It almost seems that all EW's choices for roles pre-LOTR were in preperation for Frodo.

C4

Thank you, C4 and Mechtild! Yes, once you look for the Frodo, you find him everywhere. At least, I did! :p

Glad you're enjoying these. Here's the link to the main page of Froshadowings, for those who missed it earlier: http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/frolist.html

This was before I had any EW movies to cap. I just found images on the Internet and said, "Gosh! Another Froshadowing!" It was eery. (Well, okay, it was borderline obsessive, but awfully fun.) :D

...once you look for the Frodo, you find him everywhere. At least, I did! :p
Slight correction on the list of foreshadowing movies. Ash Wednesday was the first movie that Elijah filmed AFTER the LOTR principle filming was shot. Yes, Ash Wednesday did come out during the three year theatrical release of LOTR, but evan Elijah said that A.W. was the first film that he made AFTER LOTR. That would make A.W. "post-shadowing" not "fore-shadowing." :rolleyes:
Good work though in finding similar expressions in all of his other movies.
I still want to see the pictorial study of his nostril flaring and eyebrow arching!

And, special note to the Tolkien Society critic, not even half a dozen surgeries ago did Michael Jackson make as pretty a Baroque angel, no way. (He was a darned cute little kid, though.)
I've just spent w-a-y too much of my lunchtime trying to find that hilarious spoof article about New Line suing Michael Jackson for "stealing Elijah Wood's face." :D Didn't find it, but in the process of lookng I did find a cast list that gave the name of Video Game Boy #1 as "Mickey" - seems to me I knew that at one point, but had forgotten it.

One day I'm going to get up to The Mirror of Galadriel in my screencaps. When I do, I'll give you a holler.
Oh, please do! I generally "tweak" my screencaps for lighting, sharpness, etc., but unless it's really necessary in order to show what's happening (as in some of the Shelob's Lair pics) I don't stray far from the movie's look outside of the Paint Shop gallery. When the situation warrants, I like to comment on how the lighting, etc., affects the scene, so I don't normally change it too much from how it was "meant" to look. It's the same reason I use widescreen caps instead of following Hobmom's brilliant idea of using fullscreen in order to have more of the screen filled with Elijah :) . But that's why it's so nice to have different people doing different things.

All of the characters had a bit of the ridiculous about them; EW's was no exception.
CofF is absurdist comedy done the way it should be - with the actors playing their roles in complete seriousness. Even a "wink" at the audience would break the mood. I think they all did a great job. But it's not everyone's cup of tea; it seems the customers who reviewed CofF either loved it or hated it, depending on how they felt about dark/absurdist comedy.

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Mariole - Thanks for the Froshadowings link. I believe your discovery of the existence of Nat Angst still stands as one of the Faculty's seminal research efforts. :D And I still think the captions are the funniest part!

from Mariole:
Brad Pitt had flawless hair in Troy. But I'm sure that was historically accurate; people by the sea bathed more, didn't they?
Good point - and I'm sure the sea breeze would have exactly the same effect as a blow dryer. :haha:

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ETA: txtac, proper terminology for post-LotR Frodo matches has been the subject of more than one Faculty Lounge discussion. The following is now the "official" :confused: entry in the glossary (http://www.frodolivesin.us/id27.htm), but it could change if someone comes up with a better idea:

Frodotype (ant. Froshadowing): a matching of a pic of Elijah as Frodo with a similar pic of him in one of his post-LotR roles.

BTW, 'round these parts, it's not "foreshadowing":
Froshadowing (ant. Frodotype): a matching of a pic of Elijah in one of his pre-LotR roles with a similar pic of him as Frodo.

And a couple of pages with pictorial representations of nostril acting --

nostril acting: changing the shape of the nostrils to express an emotion; not usually applied to such often-used and blatant changes as "flaring" the nostrils to show anger. The instance of nostril acting against which every other instance must be measured is the moment Frolijah becomes aware of Gandalf's voice as he stands by the Anduin.
Leaving (http://www.frodolivesin.us/FotR/id18.htm)

Scream from Try Seventeen (http://www.frodolivesin.us/ejw/id42.htm)

I wouldn't know where to begin with examples of eyebrow acting! (Good heavens! That doesn't seem to be in the glossary! :eek: Will have to remedy that next month!)

I haven't psyched myself up to watch Black and White yet. However, one thing I forgot to say yesterday was: nevermind Jonathan in his jammies, Jonathan in that duffel coat was extremily cute.

:D Dear Faculty members who admire EJW in so many movies...and can carry on worthy discussions of them all...

Yet someone just throw in a good excuse to discuss Frodo and we are off and running, practically jumping around and clapping hands....there just is nothing like an enthusiastic Frolijah appreciation circle ;)

Off topic: At the moment I'm in Los Angeles, and purely coincidentally, HoneyElf is in L.A. on her own business this very same day. Between appointments we met up...instead of a nice walk under palm trees and sunny skies she, my daughter, and I had to duck into the first cafe we spotted after parking, just to get out of the torrential rains. The streets are like little rivers--I don't think they planned drainage for this much wet. I first called HoneyElf on her cell which she answered while driving, she didn't know where she was (except that she managed to spot The Purple Circle while she was on the phone with me, and informed me that Elijah got his hair dyed there...I think she knew this thanks to Bunnie ;) ), so I guided her to where we were headed. I pulled over on Santa Monica Blvd at one point and called her to see where she was...coincidentally she was driving past me at the same time!!! So we pulled over and escaped into a cool Italian Cafe and drank coffee together. She leaves tomorrow, and possibly we will meet up again (schedules permitting)--She has just had these two days in Los Angeles and rain is forecast tomorrow, as well. So much for sunny L.A. :(

Anyhow....I was tickled to see her.... :)

Thanks everyone for the bunch of Frodo pictures :k :k

Speaking of Frodo...

http://www.tbs.com/broadband/videoplayer/0,,70632,00.html

Frodo and Sam-- :eek:

C4

Hii all !!! :k :k

Congrats to 1000 posts Honey :k

And thanks for all pictures !!

i was looking on return of the king the other night and it is 1 picture i woulde like to have,, hihihihiihi many pictures ,, but this pecticular 1 is when the eagles have picked up frodo and sam and when you see frodo hanging from the eagle.... my god he looks like a angel!! is ther anybody got it ?? :z:

and little ot: I GOT MY CONF. FROM RINGCON!!! IAM REALY GOING !!! :cool: :D

and totaly off topic but as to friends i have to let go of this !!!stop smoking was 1 of the hardest thing i have done !!!!!!!!!!!! no wonder i havent tried before !!!!!!!!1 :(
but from have smoked around 20/day i have during the last day gone to 5/day!!!! :) not bad or what you girls think ?? :D

a little specell "wave" to Blossom and Whiteling and Eandme

love you all/wood

but from have smoked around 20/day i have during the last day gone to 5/day!!!! :) not bad or what you girls think ??

I think it's terrific! Congratulations, wood! :cool:

Sheryl

ceefour, thanks for that link. Isn't it healthy to laugh each day?

My favorite lines, "He got stabbed...twice" and "It sucks to be Frodo!"
Frodo and Sam-- :eek: I agree with your :eek: when it comes to advertising the movies in such a way to the public when there is nothing in the movies or the book to suggest such a relationship. It's just wishful thinking ;) for some of us. Not me of course... :o

Wood, I think cutting back on your smoking is awesome. Congradulations! But don't give up there...get that number down to 0 if you can. I was a closet smoker for years but it's been 5 years since I completely quit. It's extremely hard but it can be done. Keep up the good work!

Well, Shelbyshire beat me to it, so I'll just repeat what she said! :p Congratulations, Wood!

C4, saw the links earlier today. Just cracked me up. Yes, there is nothing about Frodo+Sam as a couple in the books, but there were so many comments about characters exchanging deep, meaningful looks when the movies came out, that I can see this as a playful twist on all that.

SPOILER for the commercial: I particularly like the suggestive cutting they did between Frodo's unbuttoning (yes, we're back to the unbuttoning scene) and Sam's downward look. Just hilarious. :D

(Peeps nervously round the door ~ wonder if they'll remember me? :z:

Hi Faculty!!

Lots of reasons why I've been forced into lurkery recently, but thats boring so I'll get straight down to business :D Just saw this on Ladysunrope's LJ & its very pertinent to the recent Elijah/Frodo prettiness discussion - from an interview with Ian McKellan in the May edition of Empire:

"...I was also doubtful about the casting of Frodo. I thought Elijah was far too pretty. I thought Frodo should be very ordinary. I thought it was a mistake to have two americans play those parts. I thought it was an essentially English relationship, one of class -officer class-which the film didn't deal with at all. Two English boys would have inevitably dealt with that.
(laughs)
But I've withdrawn all that. Elijah could not have been better. There will never be a more appropriate Frodo..."

Yet someone just throw in a good excuse to discuss Frodo and we are off and running, practically jumping around and clapping hands....there just is nothing like an enthusiastic Frolijah appreciation circle
So true Alyon - well, certainly for me. I enjoy reading the discussions about all of Elijah's films, and the speculation about his future projects is always exciting but when we return to Frodo - well, I'll put my cards on the table - I'll be in love with Frodo Baggins - as portrayed by Elijah - for ever :o

As this is my first post in this thread (rather late I know - we'll probably be starting a new one soon!) I thought I'd better not come empty-handed. I won't be too predictable by posting a Fro pic - instead, as I know most of us are now wallowing in our EII dvds - I give you Jonfen :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ShirelingUK/EVERYTHING_IS_ILLUMINATED-6crop.jpg

Hi, Shireling! Of course we remember you! Sweet picture of Jonfen! :)

Wood, let me add my congratulations on cutting back on your smoking, and my prayers for your success in quiting altogether!

Alyon, it was lovely to see you and Daughter yesterday, even for just a few minutes! :k It was sunny and gorgeous today, and we had a blast exploring. What started as a short walk up one of the little canals turned into a five-hour long ramble, and it was lovely, and a delightful break from the work that had me all tied up at home.

CeeFour said: Frodo and Sam-- :eek:

I'll second you there, Deary! :eek: :eek: I love, adore Frodo and Sam just the way the Professor wrote them. And that's all I'm gonna say on that subject! :rolleyes:

honey!

Wood! :) Congratulations on slashing your amount of ciggies AND on getting your RingCon ticket!! Jippie! :k

Hiya, Shireling! Glad to see you back. :) Thanks for the Ian McKellan quotes and that lovely Jonfen picture. (I'm in the middle of reading the book , and I'm absolutely enthralled by it! -- Can't wait to get the DVD.)

*scrolls through the last two pages of thread* Faculty!! :eek: :p What the ...?! [i]"Frodo and Sam"? And what's all this "Frodo unbuttoning"??! :o :D

((((Faculty))))

...I love, adore Frodo and Sam just the way the Professor wrote them.


Me too. After years with the LotR fandom it's unavoidable, I think, to get a fair understanding of the word "slash", and of fanfic. I have read some very good stories, and though I still have not developed a taste for it I don't intend to say anything against it here, except that the relationship between Frodo and Sam will never seem more loving, more deep, more meaningful to me than it does in "Lord of Rings" by J.R.R Tolkien.

... except that the relationship between Frodo and Sam will never seem more loving, more deep, more meaningful to me than it does in "Lord of Rings" by J.R.R Tolkien.

Yes, exactly!

Poor Whitleling! Did you think you'd accidently stumbled into the "Harem?" :) I guess it's all my fault, and it started out so innocently too!

Bad honey!

Poor Whitleling! Did you think you'd accidently stumbled into the "Harem?" :)
Yes, Honey, almost ;) But I will get over it. And I don't mind a tiny little tad of Harem breeze in here now and then. :p (It IS spring, isn't it?) :k

You have not seen Avalon? :eek: Well worth watching. EW is a pretty major character in it, and has a wonderful emotional early scene. I hope you can round up a copy sometime. It's true, I'm afraid! It's taken me quite awhile to come around to watching all of (what I call) the Baby Elijah films. Having fallen deeply in... admiration with him when he was already fairly mature, I felt sort of odd going back and watching him when he was a wee tyke, you know? Like looking at his baby pictures, or something. :o Only weirder, somehow.

But, I've since come to terms with all that, and I've now seen all but a handful of his films. I've located a copy of Avalon on videotape at another rental place, so I'll soon be able to cross that one off the list. :)

How did you like Forever Young? I watched this ages ago, and the thing I remembered about it was that "terrific kid" and the treehouse scene. I didn't care for how they resolved the story, but EW's part in it is great. I really had a fun time coming up with Froshadowings for that movie. For a blast from the past, see http://home.ricochet.com/mdes/limages/fronat.html Warning: Spoilers.

AHAHAHAAA... "Nat is wounded." :lol: "Nat smiles through his tears." Heeee! Mariole, you win the prize. :D

I actually quite liked the film. Oddly, I already knew the whole plot, which I guess I remember from the reviews when it was out in theatres. I was quite the Mel Gibson fan back then, so I don't know why I never went to see it. Scared away by lukewarm reviews, or something? I dunno. But, Mel was quite handsome, and I liked the humor sprinkled throughout the film. Oh, and that kid who played Nat was just absolutely adorable, too. He might have quite a future in the business, if he works hard and plays his cards right.

Just another boring vote for Avalon. :rolleyes: I saw it in the theater, so it was my first Elijah Wood movie, although I had no idea what the little kid's name was. I was drawn to the movie because of Aiden Quinn's blue eyes. :p Even after I was hooked by Huck Finn, I didn't connect Elijah with Avalon til I started watching every movie of his I could find in order to have more ammunition to defend him during the "Kill me now" days.

I thought it was a great movie when I saw it, and although I never had a repeat viewing until 2001, I remembered it over the years. Funny thing is, I always thought of it as being Michael's story; every scene and all the plot elements I remembered were about him. When I finally watched it again, I was surprised at how much more there was to it. Where did all these other people come from? :D :D So I guess I was hooked by Elijah Wood before I knew who he was. He definitely pulled me into his character in that movie!

Bunnie - If your mature-Elijah movie watching has included All I Want, remember to keep an eye on Michael's mother in Avalon with the thought that the same actress (Elizabeth Perkins) also played Jones's mother. As I know I've said before - the yin and yang of mother characters ;) , from traditional late 1940's housewife to... whatever :p .

And while you're watching her, you can keep your other eye on Aiden Quinn, who plays her husband, especially if it seems weird to be watching Elijah's baby pictures. I still find Aiden quite watchable, anyway :p .

Best of Elijah's childhood movies, IMVHO (I don't consider The War a childhood movie). And his first theatrical movie, since Child in the Night was made-for-TV. So very important background research! :)

Funny thing is, I always thought of it as being Michael's story; every scene and all the plot elements I remembered were about him. When I finally watched it again, I was surprised at how much more there was to it. Where did all these other people come from? :D :D So I guess I was hooked by Elijah Wood before I knew who he was. He definitely pulled me into his character in that movie!
That's not really surprising, TG -- Michael in the film is basically Barry Levinson himself, as a little boy, so it really IS his story.

AHAHAHAAA... "Nat is wounded." :lol: "Nat smiles through his tears." Heeee! Mariole, you win the prize. :D.
:D Actually, it's happy-go-lucky reviewers like you that lead people to overlook this particular aspect. Such (true) claims as "humor sprinkled throughout the film" tend to mask the hideous suffering of the life of Nate. I am glad to restore this overlooked aspect to the prominence it deserves.

Note: I didn't have any TTT screencaps at the time, so I relied upon the kindness of Trudy to download the appropriate caps from her site. Thank you again, dear! You provide a valuable service. I still have one of those caps on the wallpaper I've put up today. :k

I was quite the Mel Gibson fan back then, so I don't know why I never went to see it. ... Oh, and that kid who played Nat was just absolutely adorable, too.
I honestly don't remember if I saw it in the theatre; probably I rented it after the initial run. I went through a Mel Gibson phrase after Lethal Weapon and watched many of his movies--though not all. I was clearly a failure as a developing obsessive, a problem I have handily corrected since. ;)

The funny thing was, though I saw it for MG, the thing that remained with me was that cute kid, particularly a few of the scenes with him. "The kid was great!" I remember enthusing. I suppose it's similar to Tg remembering Avalon as "Michael's story." The rest of the movie isn't bad, but there's some extra special charisma present in that blue-eyed boy. I fully support your following notion, and believe there might be some truth in it:

He might have quite a future in the business, if he works hard and plays his cards right
:haha:

Okay, Tg, now you've done it. I went looking over the new entries on your site, and got sucked into the "Pants" essay. I'll be back when I finish sniffling and marvelling at your wonderful analyses. *sniff*

Beware -- there may be some spoilers here...


Green Street Hooligans on DVD June 13th
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Warner Home Video will be releasing last years independent crime drama "Green Street Hooligans", which stars Elijah Wood, Charlie Hunnam and Claire Forlani onto DVD. The film will be presented in 2.40:1 Anamorphic Widescreen, along with an English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound audio track. Extras include a Making of Hooligans documentary, and a "One Blood" Music Video by Terence Jay. The disc will be available to own when it hits store shelves June 13, 2006.

The film, also known as "Green Street" or "Hooligans", tells the story of Journalism student Matt Buckner (Elijah Wood) who has been expelled from Harvard for a crime he didn't commit. His promising career ended and his future looking bleak, he heads for London to seek refuge with his married sister Shannon (Claire Forlani) and her husband Steve (Marc Warren).

Steve introduces Matt to his younger brother Pete (Charlie Hunnam) and, through their friendship, Matt enters the world of football fanaticism and the secrecy and intrigue of the football firm. Pete Dunham and his close knit group of friends make up the Green Street Elite (GSE), a hard core group of West Ham United supporters – and one of the toughest London football firms.

All the football clubs have a firm and they all have one aim – to be the most feared and respected mob in the country - no matter what it takes. As Pete explains 'West Ham's football is mediocre, but our firm's top notch and everyone knows it… it's really about reputation – humiliating the other mob by beating them in a row or doing things that other firms get to hear about.' Matt is not only drawn into the sheer excitement of the game of football itself, but also the brotherhood and loyalty of life inside the GSE. The buzz that violence brings to him produces a sense of power that he has never before experienced.

But Matt has been sparring with the truth about his past life and not every member of the firm considers him a 'brother'. Bovver (Leo Gregory), resents the presence of the outsider and his own apparent demotion within the ranks of the GSE. His continuing distrust and dislike of Matt creates a powder keg of jealousy and emotion that's just searching for an opportunity to blow.

When Bovver discovers hidden information about Matt it sets off a devastating chain of events that tests friendship, loyalty, honor and determination in battle. Tragic consequences force Matt to acknowledge the cost of his actions and the painful lessons learned lead him to re-evaluate his future.

The film's energy and visceral impact is not surprising: German-born director Alexander was herself a former kickboxing champion, and she brings an unvarnished verisimilitude to this high-octane take on masculinity and tribalism.

DVD Details::

2.40:1 Anamorphic Widescreen
English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound
English, French and Spanish Subtitles
"The Making of Hooligans" documentary
"One Blood" Music Video by Terence Jay


Again, no commentary track.

At long last, even if it is in Canada! Not that there's anything wrong with that. :haha: I'm sure the rest of us North Americans will get it then too.

h!

I've been thinking about The One Lad lately, wondering what he's up to. I got a glimpse tonight. I was watching some (very dull) shows that I recorded last night, and there was a commercial with a lad with very distinctive blue eyes and a shock of unruly hair, sitting on a woman's lap on a plane, talking about - um - movies? Popcorn? Something like that. In the shock of seeing him, I missed what the commercial was about. ;)

So how's everybody? Is Elijah doing anything movie-wise these days? I kinda dropped out here - haven't been up to much of anything to be honest.

~grumpy

GRUMPY! Hi! :)

Elijah is supposed to be filming (if not now, very soon) a film called Day Zero, about a group of friends who are drafted into the military. It's about their lives in the 30 days leading up to when they are to report for duty.

Other than that, there's just the role as Iggy Pop that is supposed to start filming later this year.

Nice to see you again!

GRUMPY!!!

So nice to "see" you here! :k

that is all

honey!

Yay!! Grumpy!!!!! :cool:

How have you been feeling???? Hope you stay round the Faculty for awhile...we've missed you. :k

ZKG! Great to see you! :cool: :cool:

And if you really haven't been following things, you may not know that Elijah's already finished filming on a movie called Bobby, tracing the effect of RFK's assassination on various people at the hotel that night (fictional, but Elijah's storyline is based on the experience of real people). No word - as far as I know - on a release date, but it does have a distributor!

Did you get a chance to see Everything Is Illuminated? It's out on DVD now, so if you haven't watched it yet, do!

And shireling - that picture of Jonathan reminds me mightily of some other pic, but I can't quite place it. :confused:

Inspired by the recently reviewed study of Nat Angst ;) , I've added a page of Day-O and Nat pics (http://www.frodolivesin.us/Pics/id45.htm) to "Playing with Paint Shop". Seeing ZKG's (hope I can still call you that?) sig reminded me again of Mariole's important contributions to elwoodian research. I still have the vole on my computer at work. :D

Wood, congratulations on cutting down on your smoking [insert "applause" smilie]! I keep forgetting about your request for the "angel pictures" - This page (http://www.frodolivesin.us/RotK/hoh.htm) isn't ready to actually publish, so the only way to get to it at this point is through the link in this paragraph. Some of the pictures aren't tweaked as well as they could be yet. That shot segues so well into the Houses of Healing, that those pics are there, too.

Regular monthly additions for April are up at frodolivesin.us (Tolkien quotes, EJW caps, glossary entries). Since there've been screencap pages and essays added within the last week or so, there aren't any new ones of those right now.

Thanks TG for the link to those pages. I just watched ROTK again the other night (the result of all the Frodo discussions that have been going on here recently), and it is so good to be able to linger over the look that goes between Frodo and Sam, when Sam walks into the room. It is one of several moments in the films that I always want to freeze-frame and just stay with the way it makes me feel for a while.

We always concentrate of Frodo, and on Elijah’s expressive features, but for me it is Sam’s eyes here that really tell me how deep the emotional relationship between the two is, and how they share a bond that goes beyond, and has no need for any physical relationship. When I keep the last two frames of the page on the screen together and go between them, I so clearly see the mix of adoring servant/caring parent in Sam’s eyes and the little smile on Frodo’s face that tells me of his slightly more detached role in relationship; being in one instance both the more mature master and the vulnerable kid, who can’t begin to comprehend the true depth of what his parent feels for him.

It was scenes like this one that drew me into LOTR and to Elijah, and 2 years on I still marvel at what the two actors were able to portray. Seeing films like Brokeback Mountain, that are supposed to move me but actually leave an emotional vacuum, only serve to strengthen my appreciation for what Elijah and Sean pulled off.

Hello, zk! :D

tg, the picture shireling posted looks rather Kevin-ish to me, especially around the eyes. (But maybe that's because of the glasses!)

C4